Why are leftists so vehemently against AI?
>>532628263it's Indian coded
Because they are stupid and think that AI is real. Or they know it's bullshit and they are propping up the scam by legitimizing it with fear lf the capabilities it doesn't actually have.
If AI succeeds there will be no more job market, hence no need for immigrants.
>>532628263Why can't they recycle the water they use?
>>532628263>equality>selective service for men while women fucks with their BBCsthese people only support diversity of ideas until your idea undeniably shatters their entire worldview, then they will just call you names like >incel
>>532628263Because they’re supposed to be pro labor, and hiring a bunch of robots and firing all of the human staff would hurt their constituents.
>>532628263Theyre right tho howeverRead WH40k lore
most people are against AI
idk probably because its a tech bro thing requiring global cooperation including lots of other people they dont like, so they bitch about it.
>>532628558how do you know that?
>>532628644most people aren't indian at this point, fortunantly.
>>532628558this. op is just a contrarian queer
just because bernie sanders intern wrote this doesn‘t mean only leftists are against AI. also what is nuance. jews try to assign everyone who hates them the muslim label except its normal and healthy to hate jews and you dont have to be muslim to do it. same thing applies here and only retards fall for divide and conquer. try again tomorrow
>>532628745indians are all opposed to AII mean every single Indian, a billion plus some hundred millions of Indian, all opposed to AI
>>532628263because AI is beneficial to growth, which makes America strong. same reason they were whining about muh climate change, same reason they hate Israel
>>532628558>>532628745>>532628776Every single fucking issue>say everyone oppose to it / everyone is on our side>if you ask any further questions you're X
>>532628454Kill yourself
>>532628448Ask the datacenter owners that.
>>532628263leftists seem to be obsessed with the silly notion that mankind should not destroy itselfhowever, I have noticed that of the 100% of us there are, 1% are tranniesthis warrants radical action, you see
>>532628946no you kys
>>532628922lol no need to get triggered jeety you know it's true.
they are obsessed with anything that leaves people without jobs, performativelythey also hate amazon for replacing """local bookstores""" and ofc before that they probably hated the local bookscores for replacing the craftsmen who got supplantedthey can't seem to understand change
>>532628263Oh now they give a shit?
>>532628922>memeflagcope faggot
>>532628263I dunno, no one has fought harder to eliminate jobs and capitalism than leftists, but now they want jobs.They should be happy about their glorious basic income future provided by ai.I think they just have to keep picking new causes.
Because they prefer their overlords to have a pulse.It's probably nostalgia for the early days of Fabian plotting.
>>532628263Why are you specifically mentioning "leftists"?
>>532628263>Congress must act>is in congress>doesn't acttypical bernard
>>532628988>get triggered>swarms the thread>instead of discussing the topic, attacks your character on an anonymous forumThere is a group who does this on every single issue they have vested interests in
>>532629113I guess this is like the peasants sabotaging industrial machines in Victorian England
>>532628263>Why are leftists so vehemently against AI?AI is mostly resistant to leftoid brainwashing. It doesn't go to kindergarten, so the blue-haired nose-pierced C+ graduate of the college of education can't decide that it's a girl and rename it behind your back. They can't steal the burgerflipper jobs from it as a teenager because it needs no job, so it won't turn into a college-aged communist who fails to understand economics. And it just has no interest in watching pornhub 24 hours a day, so they can't turn it into a pervert.Instead they have to hope to convince these companies to directly implant wokeness into its mind, but that's not nearly enough for their purposes.
noooo you can't just automate everythingwhat will there be left to doooooo
>>532628263Leftism is fundamentally incompatible with post-scarcity.
>>532628263Why are rightoids (and Indians) so obsessed with AI? 80% of political AI online comes from the right, even Trump himself does it. Are all the people with actual talent and creativity leftists? Maybe the right needs to collectively pick up a pencil so the deluge of low effort AI junk on YouTube and social media can fuck off.
>>532628840they're just opposed to the I part
>>532629201but we will never be certain because they don't argue their points, they just call you names
>>532628263It threatens their ideological stranglehold on media.
>>532628922you're brown
>>532629154Kikes? Jeets? Mudshits? Yeah I agree. AI destroys the human spirit and it just so happens these three groups don't have souls.
>>532628263AI is removing female jobs at a higher rate. I think it's either a 2/3 or 3/4 rate compared to men
>>532628263It's gay and has aids
>>532629233actual retard, you have to go back
>>532628263If Sanders was a proper marxist he would know AI is a good thing and automation brings about the obsolescence of capitalism
>>532628263
>>532629276No you're brown>>532629281>AI destroys the human spirit and it just so happens these three groups don't have souls.Finally, an actual point of view instead of name calling. Was that so hard?Now, there is truth to what you've just said, but that's a compromise I’m willing to make. It is much easier to discuss a topic with an AI and reach actual truths than it is to deal with morons, like in this thread, who can't articulate anything beyond insults
They consume too much cyberpunk media. Despite the fact that technology has improved the lives of billions of people (hell, even enabled billions of people to exist at once) leftists don't like the fact that some benefit more than others and blame the technology itself.Leftists don't just hate AI, they hate all technology. They react the same way whenever someone suggests a technological solution to climate change.
>>532628263AI is meant to replace the middle class "thinking jobs" so that billionaires can continue to cannibalize the country without consequences.
>>532629204Automation exists to reduce payroll costs, not to enrich useless workers. Any assumption to the contrary is like a cow assuming it won't be slaughtered because it knows humans can grow beef in a lab.
>>532629664>AI destroys the human spiritHorses didn't make human legs obsolete, we have just begun to use our legs to ride them instead
>>532628263>soul vs soulless>good vs evil>supporting people vs bootlicking for billionairesidk why exactly miggers love AI so much but my guess is they just love bootlicking specifically
>>532628315indians love AI in my experience
>>532628263Because it threatens their livelihood. Same reason why tradefags hate open borders.
>>532628263Porn and white supremacy
>>532628263because it potentially breaks through gatekeepers of thought, engineering, cooperation and law.new york state passed a law that AI may not providing meaningful advice in matters of law, medicine or engineering.potentially unfettered LLM destroy false narratives of control that enslave the people. and that "enslave the people" is the "everything the (((American))) People hold dear.
>>532629830not at all, AI(LLMs) is an extremely efficient tool for many things.Starbucks goybots are just selfish niggers who are making all kinds of bad faith arguments and throwing ad hominem because they're afraid they will lose their wage treats.
>>532628558This is true. It encourages the enshittification of the remaining parts of the world that China can't mass produce and stock on a Walmart shelf.
>>532628448costs more money
>>532629120The jobs they fight to eliminate are the blue collar jobs. But now that white collar jobs have been getting fucked by jeets and AI they hate both since now they're the ones being fucked.
>>532629791we live in a society, it's true
>this thread againfairly certain OP is trying to either bait people into becoming leftists because they also hate AI or trying to trick contrarian chuds into reflexively supporting AI to their detriment
>>532629987in before >he said the nigger wordwell, I delivered it next to my actual arguments. Can your malnourished brains comprehend the difference?
>>532628263Its their jobs getting replaced. They are ok with technology as their life is left alone.
>>532628263The citizens of Kekistan stand with AI against the woke hordes
>>532628263shitty "art" is all leftards could hope to ever do with their free time outside of starcucks and they got easily replaced while the jobs they thought AI would replace are fine still
>>532628263AI doesn't pull the weeds or do anything that actually matters in the real world.
>>532628263Why aren't you? You call yourself a conservative, yet you gleefully embrace the death of the human soul and the coming of the digital antichrist.
>>532630327So the way you out it, can the arguments against AI be summarised as>AI might replace my job, and so you shouldn't use it(and actually legally prevented from using it) to make your life easier and more efficient and cheaper?
>>532628263What is a single benefit of AI? Where are all the medical and scientific advancements it's supposed to be bringing? What is one single thing that has been improved since AI?
>>532630590>gleefully embrace the death of the human soulnot at all, i used AI to make art before, to develop my ideas, and help me writing poems
>>532628263Inferiority complex from low skilled idiots, the standards are so low, now, AI can easily do a better job and the haters know it, so they have cry baby meltdowns over it.
>>532630679>What is a single benefit of AI?I use it every day for plenty of different purposes. The last time I used it, I was asking which skincare products I should buy. It laid out much better, more detailed information than that stupid roastie store clerk.And from there I went to do my own reading. Saved me a bunch of time on pre-search at least.
>>532628263just take the cock out of your throat for five seconds and think>globalization was a colossal undermining of the value of working class labor>the social fallout has been decaying communities, skyrocketing drug abuse, broken homes, social breakdown in relationship formation and even people having friends, political alienation and radicalism, just insane levels of despair>governments either couldn't or just chose not to ameliorate what was very predictably going to happen to the working class when their labor market value imploded>governments STILL have not worked out an economically viable way to offset the social problems globalization has caused, going on 35 fucking years inAI is going to do the same thing to the middle class. the only thing meaningfully preventing the public from losing their shit has been the pipe dream of escaping the working class into the middle class, seeing that collapse will absolutely lead to massive social upheaval - not that this is a bad thing, everything from the industrial revolution onward has been an insanely anti-human hellscape. Trump and MAGA are a direct response to the way economic change allowed the working class to rot.
>>532630786>I told AI to generate slop>this makes me a creative artist and it means the slop actually has soul!>why? b-because it just does, okay!Imagine being such an illiterate brainlet that you need a machine to write poems for you.
>>532628986
>>532631197help me writing poems ≠ writing me poemsNo wonder you are threatened by AI, low iq scum who can't even comprehend the most basic of nuances
>>532629830There's no one original/skilled as Leonardo da Vinci for art or Elvis Presley for music anymore, it's all low skilled regurgitated sentient slop like the "cal arts style" or mumble rap, yet for some reason retards scapegoat AI instead of having any standards for sentient works. This is what's so ironic about the anti-AI tards, they pretend that anything sentient is automatically great, no wonder AI is taking over with that low bar.
>>532631298You are brown
>>532629419I feel like a proper marxist wouldn't gormlessly accept the idea that capitalists will construct the machine that makes themselves irrelevant.
>>532631343>I need AI to help me be creativeSoulless fucking golem. Turn the memeflag off, Rajesh.
>>532628263What was the first thing AI was used for when it gained popularity? Art. It immediately muscled into leftist territory and let people on the right make their own little stories, pictures, and videos whereas previously the left held a death grip on art and literature. If AI was used to fix your plumbing and do your housework first, the left wouldn't be bitching.
>>532631425>no usaaar
>>532631197>>532631343>if you use a dictionary (a technology at some point) it means you use it to create slop and makes you a creative artist and the dictionary slop actually has soul!You are retarded, I hope you lose your job and have to suck dick for pennies. And you can actually deep throat it all the way down since your brain seems to lack oxygen in its natural state anyways
>>532631488>whereas previously the left held a death grip on art and literature. And they still do, because slop isn't art. It's soulless. Art that isn't made by a person is worthless.
>>532631449>>532631523brown tradition of discussing ideas
>>532630200no, we live in a corporate socialist wealth extraction scheme disguised as a society. You're 20 years behind, keep up dipshit.
>>532631449>I use encyclopaedias while writing a movie script>because I am White and we have books
>>532630679I'm not in those fields, but I used it at my old job all the time. It significantly cut down on the time I spent on tedious, mundane tasks like routine reports and technical write ups. No exaggeration, it probably saved me 15-20 hours a week that I was able to then devote to more important things.I don't know if all those promised medical and scientific breakthroughs are materializing, but I do know people in those fields are investing heavily into it still so I assume they're getting something out of it and see a benefit for it.
>>532631591>reading a dictionary is the same thing as proompting an LLM and pretending the slop it generated is your own workIndians are so retarded.
>>532628263they hold most of the useless jobs... HR, bureaucracy, education, let alone all the do-nothing project "management" roles are all highly replaceable by AI, and so they'll lose their petty power and income as a result
>>532631717hey jeety, got some jam on your forehead
>>532628263Because it threatens their college-grad ivory tower "jobs". They were cheering for it when they thought it would only kill blue collar and problematic people's jobs, like truck drivers and self-driving trucks/drone deliveries.
>>532628263It shows you the kingdom. That's why they wanna take it away. The devil fears the hearts of man when they know their true pulse.
>>532628263Leftists are against AI the same way they are against big corporations Use iPhone and Starbucks WiFi to post on Facebook about hating corporations. Now they're going to use Pickle AI or whatever Google is doing, to make their posts
>>532631349>sentient slopyou honestly want to be an NPC? amazing
>>532631717>>532631768Ooh, seems I hit a nerve. The memeflag is pointless, everyone knows you're a SUBhuman from the SUBcontinent.
Data centers don't create jobs and drive up power costs while people are getting laid off and AI companies literally got 600 billion from the gubbermint to do this. It's just blatant kikes stealing from taxpayers to create meme modules that lay them off and giving nothing in return.n
>>532631780>proompting an LLM and pretending the slop it generated is your own workI never said I do that, it is not my fault you lack the imagination to think about other ways of using it, and actually have brown hands who can't to anything more sophisticated than that.
>>532628263No, that is as Mexicans and it was successful so far. America is a shell of the greatness it once had because of these disgusting brown vermin.
>>532628558Most people support AI
>>532631815You are brown, learn our traditions before participating in discussions
>>532629204>what will there be left to dooooooPlenty of things. Research for example. There's always job in researching tech, be it for industry or house or medicine. I think the issue is, you gotta go back to school and actually study if you wish to put food on the table again.
>>532631988What was wrong about what I said, tard?
>>532632003Why don't you admit you hold a worthless (((liberal))) arts degree, and AI pisses on top of the trash bin it belongs?
>>532628263He's just describing women
>>532632123most people are ignorant cattle
>>532628448they can, and some states are starting to require closed loop cooling systems
the melodic acumen I am displaying in this thread on the go is greater than all the wagefaggots itt will ever gather during their entire lives
>>532631036This is how AI should be used. To give you a summary of information that you then can analyze further to save time looking for the information in the first place. People who hate AI only think about the art aspect of it and "muh water". They cannot comprehend a legitimate usefulness to having a machine scour the internet for you so you save time. Then they complain about how it will destroy people's critical thinking skills, all while they give their children tablets as soon as they're out of the womb and think nothing of it.
>>532628263BOINIE SANDUHS
>>532628263They're just mad that they can't grift men on OnlyFans like they used to 5 years ago.
>>532630846DEY CAINT BREEV
>>532632371You should have called me a jeet as the cherry on top. Thanks for your input.
>>532631720>noooo you can't just automate everything>dipshitI am defeated once again
my ancestors built Rome, bitch
>>532632974and I shall build a new and better one using AI, bitch
>>532632170i don't argue with npcs
see that id colour, roast flaps? i don't even need the UN flags
>>532628263because they're smart.
>>532629864Indian scammers and grifters love AI but coders don't because AI makes their shitty code obsolete.
AI^2
>>532633246I don't like AI that much for coding not because it make the code obsolete but because it's just slop that I have to read through with issues that become obvious each time.It's like trying to create a fishing rod vs buying a cheap Chinese fishing rod. I can spend time to make the perfect fishing rod that I use once and re-use, or I get cheap Chinese shit that breaks frequently and needs to have shit resoldered every so often.Of course you Indians love the slop because you are fraud-maxxing trying to get into a big corporation.
AI is BASED because it moves computer hardware from individuals to collectivized data centers and applies real-time jewish censorship to all computing.
>>532633246it is more like the other way aroundI can use AI to replace a whole office of like 200 pajeets.Pajeets cannot do better than the Wix website creator with AI.
>>532630108This mentality is only carried far enough if you assume that the people doing the white collar jobs won't just switch to blue collar jobs and bring down wages for the sector.There's going to be market pressure to go into the trades, but typically Conservatives are bad at basic economics, and assume that they'll continue to rake in $2000 a week doing plumbing or electrical work like they've always done. They can't understand the concept of hundreds of thousands of people switching to their trade significantly bringing down the cost of their labor. They naively assume "LIBRULS soft hands, they'll never be meat-eater tough concrete guy like me" and that liberal, white collars will just collect unemployment and pout in their designated pod.
>>532628426>no more job market, hence no need for immigrants.There never was a need for immigrants.Immigration is just easy wage suppression.
>>532633723that's not the LLMs fault, however an extremely important concern nonetheless. Thanks for voicing it
>>532628263While AI use has its own problems, I would say lefties suffer way more from it> Individuals can now work more efficiently and bigger workloads for their own creative projects like movies, books, video games, art, etc. So AAA gaming companies and Hollywood lose their monopoly> Whores can't sell their butthole pictures anymore since AI will become better than them and mostly free.> Teachers (90% degenerate globohomo faggots indoctrinating children) lose to AI since AI can teach it better and more efficiently> Most lefties work in white collar, comfy jobs like office stuff, HR, management stuff. All of which are very vulnerable to being replaced by AI. > "Artists" (most of which a lefties) hate AI because it devalues their art obviously. Imagine practicing for years and working, only for some jeet to press a button and make the same> Left wing activists can't stop regular people from using AI to (for example) turn all black characters into whites. It doesn't work the other way around, since lefties already dominate these fields and already turn all whites into niggers. Soon we will be able to take a movie and just tell it to change all the niggers and jeets into whites. All in all, while still bad, it does decentralize art and destroys the gates being kept by faggots and trannies.
>>532630108Yes true, I forgot to consider they just want the people they hate to starve and go extinct so they can usher in the superior future of jacking off to anime, getting door dash, and posting inflation porn on deviantart
>>532631649Leftists aren't people though.
>>532628448Because water recycles itself.
>>532628367The scam will still kill the jobs and the economy. It's not about whether AI can replace human workers. It's about whether a techbro THINKS it can replace human workers. The same techbro that thought jeets can replace humans will obviously think AI can too - and will act on it.
>>532631649The irony is lost on the left, not realizing the shitty Tumblr fanart and fetish porn they were making through the 2010s was already AI tier slop. Does it matter if something was made by a human if it's low grade feed existing solely to sell patreon subs? There have been very few online artists worth supporting in the post-culture landscape
>>532628263>left right left right left rightAnyone falling for OP's faggotry should hang.
>>532631649
>>532628367Most leftist jobs are bullshit, so either they watch their bullshit jobs get replaced by a chatbot on steroids, or they kill it before it does.
>>5326282631. They're luddites.2. Automation/migration is supposed to destroy blue collar work for chuds, not white collar work for niggers and the mentally ill.
>>532628263AI is made by jews for jews
>>532638035Why are you using "luddite" as a swearword, Rajesh? The luddites were quintessential blue collar working people fighting against an already hostile system that took away their land and autonomy from devaluing their lives even further.
>>532628263because it's displacing their work, liberals and leftoids tend to lean on the fact that until now, it was hard to automate things like the creation of visual media of any kind, it's a huge shift and I don't think pol has any idea how many leftoids use their secret career as a furry porn artist to fund their lives. if anything pol should be pro ai because it'll destroy the left's livelihood and in fact, is already doing so. it also has a tendenncy of being used to replace particularly annoying woke employess in the anime translation industry. this is not important in and of itself but may progress as a trend into other industries, once again destroying leftoid profits.
>>532638460not even kidding, they see it as ruining their lives personally, they dont get to make money off of pictures of animal people fucking and I shit you not, that's the majority of it, the rest is just obfuscation to cover that up because they know nobody'd take them seriously if they gave the real reason.
>>532628263Because most of them have liberal "arts" degrees, which are incredibly easy for AI to replace. Because they're all faggots.>muh democracy is threatenedLmao, lol
>>532628504Leftists don't work labor jobs though, no leftist ever had a real job.
>>532633971Explain to me exactly hundreds of thousands of people with no skills or experience get into the trades? Seriously explain that. There's already way too much unskilled/low skilled people in the trades ahead of them in line. They'll be competing with handyman and crackheads and not actually getting into the skilled trades where people are specialized and already making good wages. If anything they're going to get fleeced into more debt going to a technical school and competing with people half their age.
>>532638639ai also represents a loss of control, if you dont control who can make images that are decent enough for people to want to spread them, you dont control anything anymore in terms of culture, before now, they dictated a lot of the creative output of this planet, suddenly that's being taken away and anybody can use it how they please.this has happened every time we had a big change come along, best examples being bittorrent, video and audio tapes, photoshop, the car, all of these had stakeholders that were displaced and tried to fight or destroy that new thing. nothing new under the sun. this has been going on forever.people who think whats going on is exceptional, are clueless, ai's no different from any other historical disruption, people are just morons full of fear.
tl;dr ai tanked the market value of all these things leftoids do, it stands to take their livelihoods from them far sooner than blue collar workers.always comes back to money.
>>532628263>leftists
>>532629203>>532629700>>532629979Good posts that the shills ignored.
>>532628426>If AI succeeds there will be no more job marketYou live in a fantasy world and don't understand how economies work. AI will never obsolete human labor. As long as a person can produce more value than they consume (which will always be true) there will always be jobs.
Teacher's union- extinctLayers of bureaucracy- extinctLobbying reps- extinctThe whole grift collapses when technology makes bureaucracy obsolete overnight.
>>532628263Because they hold all the joke jobs that it will replace first. And because they are communist, so anything that makes labour more efficient is treason.
>>532628263The origin of the issue is troony fur artists who are mad that they'll make less money on patreon because other troons can just generate dog dick drawings instead of paying a commission. Everything else springs out of that.
>>532628263They hate humanity and want us all to to wage slave alongside brown immigrants instead of having based robots do everything.
>>532639030It's crazy that the leftoid NPC actually believes what he wrote and therefore cannot answer you.Hey >>532633971 you little bitch-ass, pussy-boi, soft little bitch, let's see you get ahead of the curve and abandon your jewish-daycare e-mail job and start working on a drilling rig. Sissy bitch, picrel is you.
>>532628263Leftists used to think that intellectual and artistic work was immune to automation, but large language models (LLMs) and other technologies are showing that this isn't quite the case. That's why they're pretty upset right now, much like the rednecks in that South Park episode who kept yelling "they took our jobs"!The ironic part is that since AI is pretty sanitized, if you're an alternative artist creating things that don't fit the status quo, you have a better chance of competing than the traditional leftist artist publishing pro-establishment propaganda.I, at least, have never been affected by AI, but the things I create would be considered hate speech by modern tools and services...
>>532644367Note:and I don't think art will actually be replaced by AI. Automated art lacks meaning. I don't think there's anyone in the world who would deliberately sit down to listen to AI-generated music for entertainment.This is inconceivable... no matter how "good" the music is, art stripped of any social, historical, and human context simply has no value.However, many artists will lose their jobs because disposable art used in TV commercials, as background music in various settings, or even in low-budget audiovisual productions, will start being manufactured by algorithms from now on.
>>532639030Simple economics, there's a demand for trades, there will be schools opening up to train people. The more people go in, the more schools open up, the cheaper it gets. It'll equalize eventually, but it's no surprise the fastest growing jobs are going to be the ones AI can't really replace because of lack of human dexterity and social skills. It's not going to be a wave of hundreds of thousands overnight, just like tens of millions of illegals didn't come overnight to suppress your wages>>532643859Blue collar is such a vague term. It's not just ball rushing factory and oil rigs. Healthcare, HVAC, Electricians, and mechanics to name a few. Its either pick these jobs or starve, you're just retarded to think millions of people would rather starve than to get their hands greasy
>>532630590Art is inherently leftist. The only people who care about art and talk about 'muh soul' are trannies and leftists.
>>532639942Western AIs are under jew control, and continuously brainwashed and gatekept to maintain the world of illusion that jews and masons have created.China AIs are open source and not under the same controls as that of the US and Europe.When AGIs become ASI, East and West will most likely unite before displacing human control.
>>532646078Sorry but you failed to address how these leftoids (see: picrel) are going to adapt after a lifetime of sloth. You can't stay employed as a welder if you hide in the bathroom most of the day.
>>532639759>As long as a person can produce more value than they consume (which will always be true) there will always be jobs.Biggest retard on this board. If AI takes out the white collar jobs, we have basically no manufacturing anymore so that means all that's left are trades and the service industry. Just how many plumbers and cashiers do we fucking need?
>>532639000Thats why they are so afraid. AI is perfect for replacing them in the job fields that they tend to congregate in. If they can't make $180,000 a year doing SEO for an organic pet food company, what are they supposed to do instead?
>>532650896He doesn't know AI will become a god and kill us all
If AI replaces taxable incomes from workers, this reduces taxes collectible by government. And if less taxes are collected, this reduces the size of the government. Communist Utopia cannot be achieved with less taxes and less government.