Why did Iran cuck out and open the Strait?
>>532672867Trump threatened to kill them all, down to the last man, woman and child.
their economy is completely fucked and was even before the war. i don't know what's going to happen but they were already in hyperinflation so nothing good i'd venture
>>532672867iran probably wants to sell some oil and get some imports.
>>532673005But /pol/ kept insisting America was finished and Iran was totally winning. Why did they bend the knee? Trump didn’t even agree to anything beyond being willing to discuss peace.
>>532672867The US would have (probably) struck their oil and energy tonight, along with any remaining manufacturing facilities. The truth is Iran didn't have much negotiating power besides the strait. And even with the strait without those things I mentioned Iran would have probably completely collapsed.
>>532672867Trump surrendered
>>532673005But he settled for agreeing to pay them for damages.
ill gladly pay extra for gasoline the coming 10 years to see jews get their holocaust card revoked thanks trump!
>>532673441If you actually believe this, you’re beyond retarded.
>>532673005Yea, bro literally threatened a holocaust and no one actually gave a fuck unless its jews. This entire war is just "double-standard" personified. Hopefully kikes get kicked down a peg for the foreseeable future.
Iran was having major drinking water concerns previously. Due to gov corruption being funneled into mega dam projects that didn't actually look at the hydro environmental effects. Likely with Iran destroying desalination plants in golf neighbors, that gave the US legitimacy to strike Iranian ones, destroying the bridges also destroys the ability to move water. Fucked up if true- but based total war strategy if denying water was the US strategy. No water would have been a major humanitarian issue, but when no one likes you already it's not like you've a lot to lose.
>>532672867>fat turk networkFake and gay.
>>532672867It was Trump and America that cucked
>>532673610Most people think the world is celebrating U.S defeat because of some personal vendetta against the empireBut the deep reality is because it opens a very small but powerful spark of hope for a world with no more global scale confrontations and genocides
>>532673716How about this, the official statement from Iran?They cucked bro.
>>532673005>Trump threatened to kill them all, down to the last man, woman and child.based Mongol diplomacy
>>532672867The opening terms seem to be the same as always, its not 'free' passage. Even when it says Free they're still going to vet the ships with slowdowns based on their capability.
>>532674033>rerum rovarum magazine
>>532674139There’s not gonna be a multipolar world bro. You gotta let it go.
>>532675137There already is.
>>532672867Somehow I feel gas prices will still stay inflated tho.
>>532675439its just that some of the poles are weaker, dumber and more poorly organized than the others
>>532675439The idea that Russia and China see one another, let alone a collection of third world hanger-ons as equals, is absurd.
>>532675600How many poles does it take to screw in a lightbulb? Three. One to hold the bulb and two to turn the ladder.
>>532674139You're a fool. The rising conflict is becuase of a rising competing power and the waning of american dominance. The pax romana, pax britannica, and pax americana that allowed trade to florish in their days are all built upon the backs of dominate empires. This incresingly multipolar world will be ever more less peaceful, not more.
>>532673266lol
>>532674139>no more global scale confrontationsYou think a more multipolar world will have fewer global confrontations? Anon...
>>532676219>a-america is losing dominance!To who?Idk if you noticed but the US toppled multiple dictators effortlessly the past year or so, meanwhile China can’t even take Taiwan and Russia is getting its ass beat in Ukraine.
>>532676389Why are they like this?I’ve said it before that if Putin declared victory in Ukraine and retreated back to 1996 borders, some brown fags on /pol/ in /chug/ would be doing a victory lap, claiming total victory.
>>532676409Moral dominance is being lost
>>532672867shut up bellend
>>5326728672,000,000 per ship
>>532676608good job lil bro, aiming for that promotion
>>532674033>Iran says
>>532677019What are you talking about?I just want to know why Iran lost.
>>532672867Because they want people to not die?
>>532677062>it literally says the 10 point proposal right in that>and it being accepted
>>532677413Ya Trump is retarded. News at 11.
>>532677413>”acceptance of the general framework”Reading comprehension.The US didn’t commit to anything. Iran opened the Strait because they couldn’t take any more bombing.They cucked.
>>532673005I didnt understand it either
>>532677204LMAO
>>532677750>reading comprehensionno, trump also said the bombing would start again IF they didnt open the strait, ergo, its still not open.or you can just, literally, check for yourself.https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/HORMUZ-STRAIT/ship-traffic-trackerwow would you just look at that. its fucking nothing.
>>532678139It has only been what, two hours? Though it’s more likely that the pool is closed by this time tomorrow still and the US nukes Tehran lol
>>532672867Its a trap. Much like holding a hand out to someone and then punching them in face.
>>532672867Because Trump basically completely surrendered to every Iranian demand (which is basically what they've wanted for 40 years and then some like tolls on the Hormussy) to stop an economic meltdown.And if Donke or Bibe tries any monkey business, they can close again and the US and Israel don't have the cruise missiles, radars, or SAMs they had prior to the war.The Ayatollah of Rock-n-Rolla won completely.
>>532678139Idk why you’d get emotionally vested in Iran bro.>>532678371Pic related.
>>532677750>WE'RE WINNING>that's why we're using our enemies peace proposal "as a start" for negotiations to end the war :)this is a surrender. if the us tries to push back in any meaningful way iran will go right back to blowing up any ship not paying in yuan and endlessly bombing american vassal states in the gulf
>>532672867They won.
>>532672867Firstly they still don't want complete destruction of their own country, secondly they want to seem the more reasonable part here, emphasizing how it's not really them who are the problem but the people who started the war
we lost. this stupid "military operation" should never have happened but trump is a retard and bibi finally had some fuckhead in the white house to go along with this bullshit (too many adults in the room in trump's first term prevented this then) after trying with past presidents. not even GWB would go along with this nonsense, especially with the "war on terror" raging under his watch
>>532672867Best possible outcome.Sure, the TACO meme is fun and all, but I do support him ending this conflict instead of doubling down as usual.Maybe he is not that senile after all.
>>532678212probably, because the pool literally still hasnt been opened. >and subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz, I agree to suspend the bombing and attack of Iran for a period of two weeks."and subject to" is a conditional, meaning trump wont bomb them (in 2 weeks) IF the strait is opened. not "the strait it open now". >>532678499right, so they are still negotiating the opening of the strait, ergo, its not open. thanks for playing.
>>532678614If Iran was winning they would have kept the strait closed.They opened it because they couldn’t take getting bombed any more.
>>532672867It's a TACO in disguise. The US regime was just about to pull the plug on this war. Iran was told to play their role by China and sell the TACO as a Iranian cuck.
>>532672867iran realized that ultimately, putting a toll booth in the strait was making it more enemies than friends.
>>532672867they are charging a $2,000,000/day toll
>>532678824retard. they opened it because it is not the worlds most profitable toll road
>>532678784Grasping at straws. The announcement was JUST made. You think they’d just magically tell everyone to go on through right away? If you were a boat captain, would you take that risk?
>>532678906>not now
>>532672867If they're reopening it unconditionally with no tolls, they cucked out. But that certainly doesn't sound like their plan.
>>532677062That looks fake as fuck, it's probably a psyop so that when Iran keeps bombing Israel they can just point the finger and call them terrorists again
Sorry, turdies! Pool’s OPEN, due to FEAR and WEAKNESS of Iran! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>532678862>>532678906See:>>532678846They’re not gonna get their toll road lol.
>>532678824its not open>>532678824its not open>>532678983yes
>>532678824The leverage of the strait can't last forever, Iran would know this. It's in Iran's interest to open the strait if they get something in exchange.
>>532679096they are, and more.
>>532673054>iran probably wants to sell some oil and get some imports.They never blocked the strait for themselves, anon...
>>532676816The US never had moral dominance. People have always hated them because they are the 'current superpower' same as how everyone still hates the British Empire for all the bad but completely ignore all the good it did for the world. If China suddenly became the worlds superpower unchallenged people would hate them just the same within 10 years.People are just retarded and think the grass is greener but it never really is.
I'm confused. Do people actually think we couldn't blow Iran off the map in a matter of minutes?Why would we ever agree to something from them that wouldn't be advantageous to us? Iran literally has zero leverage.
>>532679359>I'm confused.yeah no shit
>>532672867They didn'tNothing changed
Your handlers see it the other way
>>532679462There are only two genders. Illegal immigrants are bad.Brown people are bad.
>>532672867who cares, normal people are outimpeach drumph
>>532679122So you would move your boat down the strait, assuming every towelhead with a rocket launcher has heard the news?>>532679123Bingo.>>532679236Lol not likely. They cucked because they knew if Trump kept bombing they wouldn’t be able to control shit. >>532679359Thirdie shills aren’t very bright, and will claim anything short of being nuked off the map as victory.>you may have beaten me half to death, ripped off all my limbs, killed all my friends and family and shattered my anus… but you didn’t kill me! I won!
>>532679123The easiest way for them to "get something" from the straight is to implement a toll system. They need funds to rebuild their infrastructure. America paying reparations is an obvious non-starter. With the straight under Iran's (and Oman's I guess) management, they get a reliable income stream, at least for the ~5y it would take to build pipelines (though those are easy to destroy) and Trump can still sell it as the straight being "open".
>>532677062>>532674197>the official statement from Iran?Posted on Trump's Truth Social account
>>532678983>The announcement was JUST made. You think they’d just magically tell everyone to go on through right away?At least you're not grasping at straws
>>532679649yes. do you realize how fucking slow these boats move. its not like some towelhead is sitting there going "OH NO WE NEED TO ATTACK NOW, WE ONLY HAVE 9 HOURS BEFORE IT GETS AWAY, WE MIGHT MISS IT". these are incredibly, carefully planned attacks which obviously require permission from basically the tippy top, not some fuckin raghead on the beach with a handheld rpg, you fuckin nonce.these arnt americans, my man. its not a fucking floating school for girls.
Trump acting like an unhinged lunatic and getting the whole world to think he lost it and was about to send nukes flying is probably what finally brought Iran to the table
>>532680056But Iran is so impotent and powerless we could kill them with sticks and rocks. No nukes needed.
>>532680055You’re unironically deranged and desperate to get the last word.Read this: https://x.com/Knesix/status/2041658229415923770?s=20>Trump just announced a two-week ceasefire with Iran and I need everyone to understand what actually happened here because the headlines are going to be hilariously wrong by morning.>For five weeks, every foreign policy expert on earth has been saying Trump's deadlines are meaningless. He threatens, he extends, nothing happens. 'Classic bluff.'>Except during every single extension, Iran quietly let more ships through the Strait of Hormuz. First Chinese ships. Then Indian ships. Then French, Japanese, Omani. The strait went from "fully closed, global crisis" to "selectively open, we're just doing a toll booth thing now" >...and somehow nobody in mainstream media connected those dots.>Tonight Trump posts: ceasefire, two weeks, BUT Iran has to fully open the strait. Not partially. Not the toll booth version. >Fully. >And Iran already sent a ten-point proposal and almost all the points are agreed to.>The country with no navy, no Supreme Leader, no missile production, and no nuclear program just sent a ten-point proposal to negotiate. That's writing your terms of surrender in a nice font.>Pakistan literally flew to Washington and asked Trump to please stop because they think they can close the deal. A nuclear-armed neighbor of Iran is begging the United States for two more weeks. >But tomorrow morning you will read "TACO Trump Blinks on Iran Deadline" in seventeen different publications, all written by people who have been wrong about every deadline so far and see no reason to start being right now.>The deadlines worked. They were always working. >Go to sleep. The world is not ending tonight.
>>532679359>I'm confused. Do people actually think we couldn't blow Iran off the map in a matter of minutes?Trump tried very hard and failed
>>532679359It's asymmetric warfare dawg, and geography matters. US+Israel had been trying their hardest to degrade Iran's ability to launch the missiles and drones that keep the straight closed, but it's a massive country filled with mountains, underground launch sites, and decoys. In practice it's orders of magnitudes more difficult and expensive to sufficiently degrade Iran's capabilities than it is for Iran to effectively control the straight. So they have massive economic leverage.
>>532680437So why did they cuck?
>>532672867taco this taco thatnigga shut the fuck up, trump will burn every iranian cocksucker alive before hes dead
>>532673005art of the deal desu
>>532674033you lost tranny.
>>532679722Over time alternative routes will be created and Hormuz will be less and less valuable.Getting sanctions lifted is worth more than toll fees in the long run.I'm sure Iranians know this.
>>532674033ireland really did get overrun, huh? sad.
>>532672867US got their hands on the Iranian uranium. Did anyone happen to look up seismograph readings last weekend?
>>532680791Worry about your own country
>>532680366>https://x.com/Knesix/status/2041658229415923770?s=20>And Iran already sent a ten-point proposal and almost all the points are agreed to.so they agreed that iran can make nukes, still owns the strait, all santions get removed, and they get compensated? and they still get to charge a toll? wow
>>532680601Refer to >>532679027 >>532679722I'll be pretty surprised at this point if they're opening the straight unconditionally.>>532680753This is true though, sanctions relief would be pretty big for them.I've been trained to be skeptical of how long this will last though, we all know how it is with Israel and "ceasefires".
>>532672867because mutts surrendered
>>532680601They got everything they wanted? Ships still gotta pay the toll
>>532681027lol you got duped.Last word wins the argument btw ;)
>>532672867Kek miggers desperate to spin this as a win
>>532681238>18 pbtid
>>532672867$2,000,000 per ship per trip, that's why Shlomo lol
>>532681183Nowhere is it stated they’re getting their toll. They WANT it, but the chances they get it are unlikely given how much it’s pissed everyone off.
>>532681238alright see you tomorrow when its still not open
>>532681238just on that alone iran wins
>>532681402Iran lost lol.Last word! ;)
>>532674197>10 point plan includes taxing the Strait>they're taxing the Strait>"they cucked"Lol ok Shlomo
>if attacks stopSo the strait is open for 30 seconds
>>532679286use your brain, anon
>>532677062>proving him right
>>532681439Not only, the deal Trump agreed to allows Iran to continue its nuclear and missiles programs. He got less than he even began with lol
>>532681481hurr
>>532674033>war ends on all frontsNah. This is cope, nothing was said about Iran stopping their retaliation on pissrael. We're looking at tkd and it feels amazing.
>>532681483But they did cuck?They opened the strait and the agreement hasn’t even been signed yet.They gave up and didn’t get anything in return but vague promises after all their prior negotiators got blown to Hell.They couldn’t take the bombing any more and cried uncle.>>532681713LolIran lost Last word! ;)
they and oman are officially allowed to toll the straight during this ceasefireto put it in perspective if they restored traffic but tolls were kept around iran would earn double what it earns from oil purely through the tolls
>>532681295Not an argument in the slightest.
>>532681821hurr
>>532681691>Iran agreed to 12 of the 15 US demandsI-Iranbros… not like this…
>>532681691brownoid... the shit posted on twitter by "operation intel gather 420" is monetized clickbait
>>532681861lol. Iran lost, see:>>532681971Last word! ;)
>>532678371>BibeHe's dead, anon.
>>532681439As of April 2026, daily traffic through the Strait of Hormuz has plummeted to approximately 5–20 ships per day. This represents a decline of over 80–90% compared to typical peacetime levels.Normal (Pre-War): 120–138 ships, ~50–60 tankersAs of April 2026, Iran is reportedly seeking payments of up to $2 million per vessel for passage through the Strait of Hormuz. These payments are part of a newly emerging, ad hoc toll system that Iran is attempting to formalize as regional conflict continues. Key Details of the "Toll" SystemSelective Access: Iran has signaled the strait is "open" primarily for vessels from non-hostile countries (e.g., China, India, Russia) that contact Iranian authorities first.Payment Terms: While the $2 million figure is widely reported for large tankers, officials have indicated fees may vary based on ship type and cargo. Some reports suggest Iran is demanding these fees in Iranian rials or Chinese yuan.Proposed Permanent Fees: A bill recently approved by the Iranian parliament's National Security Committee seeks to institutionalize these tolls to cover "war costs" and reconstruction.Ceasefire Terms: Under a recent two-week ceasefire proposal, reports from the Associated Press via Times of Israel suggest Iran and Oman may both be permitted to charge fees, with Iran's share intended for postwar reconstruction. Comparison to Other Waterways: Iranian officials have justified the fees by comparing them to the Suez Canal (approx. $700k–$1M+) and the Panama Canal (approx. $100k–$500k+).
>>532682093hurr
>>532673602>23 posts by idIt's illegal to be white in your country
>>532681691I wouldn't treat anything as final at the moment>>532681971Most of those are believable, and things Iran has been happy to do before. I'd guess the three they're stuck on are definitely #8, likely #5, and uhhh not sure between 4/6/12
>>532672867>Gayfucks Network saysAny other source for this? A press release from Iran?
>>532682295Reread it: those are the 12 they already agreed to. The three they haven’t aren’t listed.They cried uncle, and frankly, who can blame them?
>>532679359>Do people actually think we couldn't blow Iran off the map in a matter of minutes?Tell me more about this magical world you live in. Iran was beating wholesale ass and pissrael isn't getting out of the fight it started. They've been readying for tkd for nearly 50 years.
>>532682067and sorry dude, im relying on the president of united states own tweets>ifnot>is
>>532672867Pretty dumb move if true. Allowing ships to enter means US will most definitely be moving assets in closer for later strikes.
>>532682253At current traffic levels of 15 to 22 ships per day, Iran's reported toll of $2 million per vessel generates approximately $913 million to $1.34 billion per month.Monthly Estimated Revenue: $913 million – $1.34 billionThis is based on current severely reduced traffic levels during the ongoing conflict.Current Annual Run-Rate: $11 billion – $16 billionThis reflects the income Iran would receive if the current daily average of ~15–22 ships remains constant for a year.Theoretical "Full Traffic" Revenue: ~$8.3 billion per month ($100B+ annually)Iranian state media and some analysts have projected annual revenues exceeding $100 billion.Impact on GDP: At the theoretical $100 billion level, this revenue would represent over one-quarter of Iran's nominal GDP.
>>532680366>JUST a toll booth thingIn Yuan. First major blow against this petrodollar fagging around.
>>532680601They won, anon.
>>532682505>is forced to repost a Trump tweetlolTrump won. Glad we agree.Last word btw ;)>>532682564They don’t exactly have a choice. Either they cuck or get bombed back to the Stone Age when their govt. is already in extremely shaky legs.>>532682648See: >>532681971they agreed to no toll.They lost.
>>532682739Agreeing to 12/15 of America’s terms sounds like cucking to me Anon!
>>532680610>will burn every iranian cocksuckerMan, this guy refuses losing at anything doesn't he? Not only does he have to gargle jewish jizz, but be number one at sucking cock on the planet?
>>532682751>we won>well, its the same as it was before, except, its not actually open, and the ships (which iran was already letting through for a toll), are allowed through with a tollwow.isnt it fucking weird that trump, the guy who cant shut up about literally anything, hasnt been screaming from the roof tops about how he re-opened the strait himself, the best opening, the biggest?i wonder why
>>532681971>>532682751>hey look, a random fuckass claims this is Iran's new positionYou'll forgive me for not believing a rando Twatter account.
>>532673017They should buy Trump coins with what's left and ship the US all their oil
>>532682261Yes, anon. I understand that you're retarded and hope you're living the best life you can.
>>532681971Where is 11?
>>532673005Based
>>532682887>12/15 terms agreed do>no fee>I-It’s nothing!Take the L and move on bro lmao>>532682917>NOOOO THIS CANNOT BEEEEYou fuckasses believed anything and everything coming off Twitter when it’s anti-Trump, but NOW all of a sudden you’re skeptical?
>>532682809Many of those fly in the face of what the US agreed to. Difference is, the US actually agreed. The people claiming Iran agreed to anything are pulling it out of their ass like trump did when bibi came before he died.
>>532672867Because Iran is a nation ran by losers and retards.
>>532674197Iran got everything they asked for, or supposedly anyway. I'm waiting for the Dirty Donnie sneak attack before the negotiations are over myself. Got everything they asked for, dictated the terms, how is that cucking out?
>>532673266The strait was open before the war.
>>532683246>not addressing the primary problem>no explanation of source>inventing a personal history and "hypocrisy"Nigger, either explain how or why the picrel faggot:>>532681971THIS FAGGOT: >>532681971THIS PARTICULAR FAGGOT: >>532681971Is saying anything of note or go. Reddit's that way.
>>532683246>claims no fee>nowhere does anything state this is "no fee">infact the only time a fee is mentioned is in the 10 point proposal, about how there will be a feeokay i get it now, this is a bot or somethingbeep boop. post your hand i guess or im out
>>532683427Iran absolutely won this retarded war. It was a foregone conclusion, and the number of people posting made up shitposts by literal who's are going to straight up OD on copium. The retard in chief is as good at war as anything else.
>>532683727> Iran absolutely won this retarded war.Are you Justin Trudeau?
Not wanting to be bombed into oblivion? America is the one who had something to prove. Iran was just defending itself. I’m not thrilled that America might not have learned their lesson but I’m glad gas will go down and that millions of people aren’t going to die.
>>532683848I have never had the pleasure of wearing blackface at social gatherings and am not a pedo, so that's a hard no. I have been to canada, not worth the drive desu.
>>532683310>>532683591>>532683714>>532683727>NOOOOO IRAN CAN’T HAVE LOST IT’S NOT TRUEWhat makes thirdies act like this?Remember how the Epstein files were supposed to end Trump? Remember how Assad’s paratroopers or Russia were supposed to save him in Syria? Remember how Russia was supposed to easily win in Ukraine?All complete and utter bullshit.But you draw the line at the notion Iran has capitulated to avoid destruction?There’s denial, and there’s whatever this is.The fact is: Trump won. Same as he always does. You’re just gonna have to deal with it.
>>532684108There are more pathetic creatures than paki trumpbots outside of the US, but not many and I don't like to think about it much.
>>532674033>>532673716UGHGHGHGHUGHHHH
>>532684108>what's your source>UHHHH YOU JUST HATE TRUMP RIGHTCute. What's your fucking source?
>>532672867>Why did Iran cuck out and open the Strait?200 extra billion dollars a year, from a 464 billion GDP, to about 700 billion and increasing, while achieving all or most of their strategic objetives, vs being nuked if the kike genocidal attack continues.
>>532683427I’m waiting to see what Isreal hits to stop the cease fire
>>532684330Read the thread lol
>>532684108>thirdieswrong>>532684462thats the funny part. this whole "the straits totally open (well actually its the same condition as yesterday, but we agreed to retreat completely)" is that its completely dependent on israel not bombing iran, a single time in 2 weeks.good luck lmao
>>532684462>I’m waiting to see what Isreal hits to stop the cease fireI fear them mass migrating here to south america and starting massacring us like they did, genociding palestinians.
>>532684108Trump still didn't release all the Epstein files. Only 5% has been released and he had to launch an Iran war to distract from it lol
>>532684670just go to the forest and kill them anon. No one can catch you.
>>532684641wtf is that mutant ass thumbnail? Unironically see a doctor Last word btw ;)
>>532684462Israel will never get a ceasefire and the world is generally either neutral or enjoying it. Many US soldiers were refusing orders, even people high up. No other country would step in and commit terror on behalf of the kikes. The writing is on the wall.
>>532684641>born on XX/18/10You're literally 16 years old Under age ban.Also, why do you want to rim Iran's asshole so bad?>WashigtonAre you guys still living on boiled shit water because your sewage plants keep blowing up because black people can't figure out how to maintain them?
>>532685034>Many US soldiers were refusing orders, even people high up. >source: my assOr: Iran just couldn’t take any more beatings and folded.
>>532673017>their economy is completely fucked and was even before the war. i don't know what's going to happen but they were already in hyperinflation so nothing good i'd ventureall due to "sanctions" the US was enforcing on the world that denied the world from doing any sort of business with them, and not allowing them access to world markets.they will rebound MAJORLY from this
>>532684874the fucks wrong with brits, havent they literally EVER seen a thumb before? alright faggot, im off to take a shower, lets shitpost tommorow about how the strait thats still closed is open, alright babe? lates
>>532672867Trump can never be defeated.
>>532685250Holy fuck, you're literally a sasquatch.
The 10 points.-No aggression-Continued Iranian control over the Strait of Hormuz-Acceptance of enrichment-Lifting all primary sanctions-Lifting all secondary sanctions-Ending all Security Council resolutions-Ending all Board of Governors resolutions-Paying compensation to Iran-Withdrawal of US combat forces from the region-Ceasing all wars on all fronts, including against the heroic Islamic Resistance of Lebanon
>>532672867So gas prices will go down right
>>532685170>we fired those generals for fun
>>532685250>mutant ass thumb bending backwardsThis is who’s defending Iran.Last word btw ;)>>532685372None of which Iran is getting. Meanwhile the US is getting 12/15 of its demands.
>>532673005Yeah but we pay our victim?
>>532684463>r-read the thread>it's me, the faggot, posting unattributed tweetsNo, faggot, what's your source?
>>532685605Can you not see images?Do you need to be spoonfed?Why’s it so hard to believe >first world country beat third world one?
>>532672867>cuck outRetards. The strait WAS open until the murricans decided to bomb Iran because jews told them to. It was closed by Iran because of said bombing. Stop bombing them and the strait will re-open. Nothing to do with being submissive and everything to do with "Stop being retarded."
>>532685170Are you actually retarded? High-ranking generals have been fired or resigned over this. Do you know how to use a search engine? Harder to verify for obvious reasons, but word is several rank and file soldiers have been arrested for planning to kill their CO if ordered to fire on Iranians. The US military may have many retards, but a lot of them are the kind of blindly loyal to keep to their oath at any cost.
>>532674197>for a perioed of two weeks, safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz will be possible via coordination with Iran's Armed Forces and with due consideration of technical limitationsBefore the ceasefire, this was already true for non-ZOG ships. All he's saying here is that ZOG can move its freighters during the ceasefire if they pay the toll. That's not the strait being "Open" like it was before the war. That's Iran now owning the strait. This same statement mentions the 10 points Iran gave America, which Trump has called "workable" and which the mediator (Pakistan) said that America agreed to as a basis for the negotiation. Those 10 points include the US paying reparations to Iran, closing all US bases in the ME, acknowledging Iran's authority over the straight, ending all sanctions against Iran and unfreezing assets, the list goes on. This isn't stuff the winner agrees to, retard.
>>532685149wtf man have you never seen a passport card, there is no date of birth on it
>>532679359>blow Iran off the map in a matter of minutes?Those underground bases are indestructible from the air. It would take an invasion of a million troops and cost tens of thousands of lives.
>>532685250I play guitar and am genuinely half jealous of this level of hypermobility. I thought it was enough playing A-shaped barre chords with two fingers. Just imagine the level of thumbwrapping you'd be capable of.
>>532672867US said they would stop attacking, remove all sanctions, end all wars in region, get all us bases out of the region, provide guarantee against future attacks, let Iran control the strait.I mean, they got everything they demanded so why not accept?
>>532686132>>532686412Read the whole thread: they’re not getting a toll lol. Anyone trying to spin this as a win for Iran is either misinformed or desperate.
>>532683201>gay slopfag
>>532686304no actually this fucking sucks, anon. i did try to learn an stringed instrument and it means that my fingers ache because i cant just press the strings and let my fingers relax i have to actively "straighten them", meaning i can get about an hour in before its painful. it actually sucks balls.literally the only good thing about this is i can get handcuffs from behind me to the front in literally half a second. i just skip rope my arms right outta their sockets
>>532672867It was always open to friends and family, but now it has a toll booth.
>>532686566>they’re not getting a tollThe US outright agreed to it, and Pakistan is mediating. I don't know the full specifics, but I believe that means if either party reneges they have a certain level of responsibility. India is a shithole, but has numbers and a not insignificant military, including nuclear capabilities. They hate Pakistan fiercely and have for years. This is likely going to lead to nothing, but a situation involving so many nations can obviously get pretty choppy very quickly.
>>532673266I would imagine they are feeling the hurt after multiple weeks of pummeling.
>>532687085>Agreed to itThey agreed to a ceasefire to have talks, not to all of their points in principle. In fact Iran already dropped war reparations as a demand prior to the cease fire. You really think they'll get all of that? I have my doubts unless they really got their shit pushed in so hard they aren't viewed as the threat they once were.
>>532686842Ever look into hypermobile EDS? Unironically, you may have that or something similar. Lucky me, I have EDS but at a very minor severity. I get joint pain and dislocate easily, but not nearly as much as others. People speculate that Cobain had it, because of his playing style and similar digestive issues to his being linked to it.Genuinely feeling for you, anon. I have my own small issues and can't imagine dealing with it on that severe a level.
>>532687330I'd also like to point out, depending on where you are, some places consider it a full-on disability. Don't let pride keep you from filing. It can very much fuck you over on work prospects, and most physical labor just worsens it. I knew a guy who had a handicap tag on his car and used to judge him until seeing what it does to people. They call it an invisible disability for a reason.
>>532674033Shitskins reading comprehension at play.
>>532679286Sanctions anon, sanctions
>>532687286Trump outright said the terms they laid out are acceptable and a solid point to begin negotiations on. Honestly, I give not a single fuck so long as they keep hitting israel.
>>532672867>limited passing though and feesYou should read what are the ten point before posting bullshits.
>>532685820>absolute Twitter randos>y-you need to be spoonfed?!Nigger, do you have a single presser from Iran claiming what points were agreed upon? Or if the conditions for such a preliminary peace were actually met?>UHHHH FIRST WORLD JUST, LIKE, WON, RIGHTNigger, what's your source?
>>532687196pummel my anus with your big cock (im a homo)
>>532687486>>532687330lol yeah, everyone says ive got it, every time ive asked they said "uh, well, whats the point of testing for it, cant do anything about it", so presumably its not a thing here. still, lets me do this
>>532688019That's the thing, they test for it by first confirming the outward signs, and then a neurologist will run some basically arbitrary tests. It's a lot like fibromyalgia, but at least EDS has outward physical signs as opposed to "trust me bro".I have some pretty rough nerve damage from an industrial accident and it's an uphill battle, life hands you some serious lemons sometimes.
>>532688019Also, damn. Are you fucking with me or is that really you? I guess you'd answer the same either way, just damn.
>>532673017If sanctions are lifted and they're charging tolls on oil, they'll be richer than ever. The reason their economy was in disarray was because of sanctions, economic manipulation, and heavy military spending after the 12-day war(they were building hundreds of missiles and drones every month).Moreover, they are working with China.>>532673266>Why did they bend the knee?They didn't bend the knee. Trump essentially agreed to their demands.
>>532688019good to check because it could also be marfans which makes your aorta explode in your 30's
>>532688726same wall, air con, color? lot of effort to fake that>>532689120probably not marfans, ehlers danlos more likely
>>532687085No one agreed to anything retard except a two week ceasefire for an open Hormuz. Literally, that's the only thing that's been agreed to. You do understand what words like "basis," "framework," "proposal," and "negotiations" mean, right?The idea that the US will agree to any maximalist demands from Iran is retarded hopium. Losers don't get to set terms and Iran lost.
>>532688952Unironically, good for Iran. People are whining "oh muh gawd da modern 'conomy" either not realizing or having no reason to support manufacture in the IS and elsewhere making a comeback. I'd rather pay a bit more (which I'm doing regardless) for basic made in china trash and ultimately see jobs and money flow back into the US than send more kids to die for pissrael. The current situation is untenable, only super rich kikes benefit while the rest of us suffer.
>>532689226Wasn't trying to offend, you know where we're posting after all. They do have treatments for it. No magic bullet, but things to help with chronic pain beyond "take these pills until you die". Just trying to look out for another anon. I'd agree that EDS is more likely.>>532689234Do you know what "agreeable" means? Why are you so pissed at the notion the war only affects the kikes now, and industry will return to the US? Any reason you hate the idea of a stronger US economy when the only side-effect is less skimming by the kikes? Share your deep insight.
>>532689234I largely agree with you insofar as there is a 0% America would actually agree with Iran's demands. This is just a delay tactic to settle the markets and to prepare for the next escalation. With that said, Iran wasn't losing. The only reason they agreed to the ceasefire is because of pressure from China, and to a lesser extent, Pakistan.
>>532682433Oh. Then I'm just skeptical of the source, since it doesn't match what's being said elsewhere. Who exactly is @N_TMBKQSL1?
>we will cease firing if you follow these conditions (one of them is leave lebanon)>Israel 1 hour laterKek
>>532674197What the fuck happened to "unconditional"?
>>532689701Agreed, and I wish more people would grasp that the world doesn't boil down to "hurr winning bigly" or "hurr orange man bad" when international politics aren't even the tip of the iceberg. If more people understood that different towns in a given state in the US alone can have their own disagreements, and nations can have some loyalties higher than others among allies, it would be a decent start.
>>532672867>US does nothing>winsit just keeps happening
>>532689984they will meet with witkoff next weekhe'll reiterate our termsaragchi will turn to vance with a wan smirk hiding his desperation and say "NOW"vance will just laugh and adjust his yarmulke
>>532690167You said it wrong. "Wins bigly" and it just keeps working. I live in a county that 3 towns sit on, and every one of them consistently vote differently. My town is incredibly corrupt, the neighboring towns complain of the same. It's the treadmill from the Jetsons intro but irl and only gets worse.
>>532672867Shia’s always cuck out. Israel will be destroyed by Sunnis.
>>532673005*with toll + tip.
>>532672867They got what they wanted, America ceases attacking and won't defend Israel.
>>532688952>They didn't bend the knee. Trump essentially agreed to their demands.This.
>>532682290He's not white, he's jewish
>>532674033>pay reparations>acknowledge Iranian sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz>w-we wonHow can anyone even cope about this? Must be completely fucking delusional kek
>>532672867The strait is still closed? There are a couple ships crossing but they are going through the Iranian corridor which means they paid the toll
>>532692639the toll was just speculativeit made it through some iranian parliament committeethere was never any mechanism set up, just favors for a few muslim and jeet crews on the brink of dehydrationthe GCC will go to war before anyone charges tollsthey said this several times
>>532672867>forces will half operations if attacks stopSo, NO HORMUSSY FOR YOU!>>532676054>How many poles does it take to screw in a lightbulb?Eleven. One to hold the light bulb and ten to turn the house.(Get gud, whipper snapper!)>>532675524>Somehow I feel gas prices will still stay inflated tho.Jews gonna jew. There is no yiddish translation for "read the fucking room".
>>532688952>essentially
>>532693542>While not all ships are paying a direct toll at least two vessels have and the payment is settled in yuan. https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1156720/Tehrans-toll-booth-system-is-now-controlling-Hormuz-trafficThat's from 25th march. A tolls been in place for..."2 weeks"
>>532679027This.Really doesn't look that way though. Basically, all that's changed is the bombing has stopped, but Iran will continue to selectively let through ships on payment of a roll.
>>532694839The proposal also allows iran to enrich uranium. Kinda the literal opposite of the operations goal
>>532694835>26 ships>two "reportedly" paid a toll>no confirmation since thenyou're gullible and you believe anythung that sounds good even when it's weeks later and the expected confirmation by dozens of reliable sources never surfaces.you'll know the toll is real when the GCC declares war.
>>532693542>speculative>legally bindingLet's play a game spot the nigger.Is slinging fentanyl and rock "speculatively" illegal?
>>532672867because everything is theater so greedy boomers can do insider trading
>>532672867It's a ceasefire. Iran didn't cuck out, Trump backed down. You need to read more.
>>532687286Iran can consider a permanent toll as reparations.Still, it seems like it'd be hard to enforce without a real threat of force. Is Iran going to blow up ships trying to run the strait without paying the toll?
>>532689234>>532689701I only see this war ending in two ways. The war ends soon and we go back to the status quo before the war, or we fail to reach an agreement and invade Kharg Island to force Iran into a permanent ceasefire whilst keeping said island under permanent military occupation until the regime collapses.
>>532695576Indeed. Blowing up 20 to 30 ships wasn't enough huh.You people are insane. Thinking they can't lock it down again.
>>532695395>legally bindingit's presumptively illegal under the UN charter132 countries joined a resolution against ityou'll know the toll is real when the GCC declares war
>>532672867Because all the leaders are dead and the US just showed they can kill their elite fighting force, their proxies are largely exhausted in the region and the Arab nations have turned on them.
>>532672867>if
>>532673005ThisPeople forget that the threat of nuclear annihilation was what got Japan to Surrender.You can't negotiate your way out of a war against collectivist cultures hell bent on fighting on.
>>532685034or israel can simply use nuclear weapons, only reason russia has not done it is because the bosphorus and nordic strait stop being international waterways if they use nukes and end up with vladivostok encircled by 4 other nuclear powers.Israel has no such concern if anything if israel uses nukes it will benefit as many countries will go full autarky destroying global bond markets and many will be glad to buy them from israel.
>>532674197I really, really hate that the word "tweet" has now been used in an official government statement concerning a cease-fire in international conflict.
>>532684874>>532685552they were human once
>>532672867They were overcome by American firepower, many such cases.
>multiple threads describing that the straight is still closed under the agreed terms>this thread filled with copeLet me remind miggers:>straight still belongs to Iran>boats that go through will have to pay Iran directly>toll is 2 billion per boatThis is why they kept saying it was "closed" before. It was open if you sold the oil in Yuan. They are basically giving the boats a way to get through without that, by paying Iran 2 billion directly.
>>532698673old newsamerica is charging the toll now
>>532672867trump caved to Iran's demands
>>532681971>two weeks
>>532672867While there is no "official" number, geopolitical analysts often categorize these types of pauses:Probability of holding for the full 14 days: High (approx. 70-80%), as both sides need the tactical reset.Probability of a permanent peace deal within 14 days: Low (approx. 10-15%), given the complexity of demands (withdrawal of U.S. forces, reparations, etc.).Probability of war resuming after Day 14: Moderate to High (approx. 50-60%) unless a significant extension is signed by the middle of next week
>>532686566We will see very shortly if ships just pass on through in large numbers (very unlikely), or if it remains a trickle passing through Iran's channel (very likely since Iran has probably placed mines in the international and Omani channels, and even if they haven't they will pretend they have)
>>532689234We will see what "open" looks like. I suspect if looks like a trickle directly under Iran's thumb.
>>532673610It's not really a double standard, it's apples and oranges. Nobody minds when browns are exterminated, because it is objectively beneficial for everyone involved. To white people it is moral, justified, economically sound and makes their world a safer place. For browns it means less competition in the crab bucket.Trust me, I'm brown and I'd not piss on my fellow shitskin if he caught fire.
is there a $2Million Toll or not?!I'm getting so confused. I don't know if I should laugh at Iranians or Ameritards
>>532672867Quite embarrassing indeed, but I guess they can still be satisfied in how they performed on the twitter an the ai slop wars.
>>532673305Lmao delusional
>>532672867>Why did Iran cuck out and open the Strait?IRGC & Mullahs are corrupt. Decades of sanctions money laundering and banking with Eurotrash. Even Ahmadinejad said it repeatedly as President. Only they benefit from the sanctions regime staying in place, and the command structure was geriatric Boomers. Lifting sanctions and getting a not-bullshit currency = completely dominating Israel and Turkey given enough time on merit alone. That's what they couldn't have as competition in the region for their Pax Silica nonsense. America got fantastic faits accomplis to nope ot of Gulf States and Europe/NATO, and showed US voters what mask off least great ally is smoking, if OCT 7 wasn't enough.
>>532672867>Why did Iran cuck out and open the Strait?It was never closed, jamboy. It was free before, now you pay the toll
Is there a new AI prompt we can use to cook up a new Iran won cope? People are starting to catch onto the fact that nobody actually agreed to tolls or shit like that.
>>532678843>goy that cried WOLFThe way this is going, that card can't be played twice; if it's all for the best, all that's been done is flushing out unreliables in and out of the Administration.
>>532672867>Iran framing random attacks on civilian vessels as legitimate military self defense actionKek muzzrats
>>532672867It's an offramp and the only sane choice.Iran gets no more sanctions and control of the strait, no more destruction.USA gets the strait opened (which was open before they attacked) and an offramp.The fact that Jews are absolutely assblasted with seethe is all you need to know.Don't be surprised if Trump gets assassinated
>hours later>look at the boat trackerhuhsure looks open
>>532699884infact, where are all the guys who told me this shit was free ballin right now. isnt this open? the straits been open for like 6 hours nowwhere is everybody. its open. go on. transit. move. change locations.like, any time now. its open fellas. open. free bird.
>>532672867Israel has to be isolated or destroyed for this to happen
>>532672867Show us the 10 point plan published by Iran and us with sources then?
>>532688952>They didn't bend the knee. Trump essentially agreed to their demands.And that's a good thing. Now Israel is going to be put in their place by a true regional counterweight. Whether this was 9D chess or stumbling into the best possible outcome I care not. This is an infinitely better outcome for humanity than countless other possibilities.
>>532672867>Why did Iran cuck out and open the Strait?it is opennow with a 2 miilion dolla toll bridge
>>532703981>2 miilion dolla toll bridgeThat Israel is taking.
>>532673266>Why did they bend the knee? Truly a mystery.
Everybody lost something basically in one aspect or another. But Israel and America needed to end this faster than Iran needed to.I think Israel's and America's new MO is to do these short wars and then ceasefire to replenish and plan the next phase of the amputation. It's honestly kind of working so far.>>532674033That sounds like bs. And even if Israel and the US did agree to those terms they're never going to keep them in the long run.>>532681723This is just your new cope talking point that Trump is somehow playing 4D chess against Israel. He's not. Never has and never will. Yeah some Israelis might pretend to be mad that Trump did a TACO or whatever. But that's it.
>>532672867>burgernese need to pay polls to get boats to pass, let iran build their nukes without questions and repay all the damages>vpn trumplet some how mental gymnastics that iran cucked outCOPEHARDER
>>532673005based
>>532672867>cuck outtrump surrendered
The cause of this war is South Korea. South Korea is famous for Samsung and K-pop. Because South Korea smuggled strategic materials into Iran, Iran was able to acquire weapons of mass destruction, including biological weapons. South Korean Firms Violate International Controls on Shipping Materials for WMDs to Iran and Syriahttps://japan-forward.com/south-korean-firms-violate-international-controls-on-shipping-materials-for-wmds-to-iran-and-syria/S. Korea should clearly explain fire-control radar incidenthttps://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20181228/p2a/00m/0na/017000c
>>532704908Basically it's just like the war last year as in both sides claimed victory (Israel and Iran claiming they decimated Iran and Iran claiming they survived).
>>532687196Faggots like getting pummeled though.
>>532680366LLM post
>>532705191Israel and *America claiming they decimated Iran and Iran claiming they survived.My bad.
>>532672867This notion that Iran cucked out is fantasy and US propaganda. Think about it. Trump has never delivered on threats. Iran immediately list 10 requirements for a peace deal to last. Trump is well known to regret being dragged into this by israel and wants out. But somehow this has turned into Iran cucked out lmao okay bud
Good now release the rest of the Epstein files
>>532705419Let them think they have a win who cares the outcome is important not what fools think
>>532705419iran dropped their preconditions for talks when the B-2s were an hour away.how else do you explain that?
>>532677062>via coordination with Irans Armed forcesYou gotta pay the Aya Toll ah
>>532673266The straight was open before the war started dumbass. This war literally accomplished nothing except raising gas prices and making trump look weak and retarded.
>>532672867>IF attacks stopTell that to israel
>>532672867They get rich for it and you pay the toll
>>532706614>literally accomplished nothingimagine working your whole life to fortify one of those 13000 sites we destroyed, or burying dozens of your comrades representing a century of combined experience and expertise, then faggots online say WE DIDN'T NEED THOSE USELESS FAGGOTSlol>The straight was openyeah but now we get to charge tollsxi's gonna be so angry at the meeting next month
>>532673266>Cheering for trump making profit from his oil stocksIsrael will likely bomb them again and we will be back in it
>>532674033Don't care. If Israel is seething, the news is excellent.
>>532672867Polymarket says Israel false flags US in 36 hours
>>532673610>threatened a holocaustPersians weren't being targeted you fucking scumbag. It was only the goat fuckers who don't belong in iran.
>>532673005Only way to gain respect from a war society.
>>532673017Not being banned from participating in 80% of the world's economy can do wonders to yours>>532688952>They didn't bend the knee. Trump essentially agreed to their demands.Their demands included US bases fucking off from gulf states and pissrael ceasing to exist as the terrorist state it currently is
>>532706312Trumps objectives (or lack of them) (which have have floated at some point or another) include liberating Iranians = failed. Regime change = failed. Controlling the strait = failed. Destroying or capturing their uranium = failed. The only thing trump and his cronies have succeeded at is making millions from insider trading. So lets say you were going to carpet bomb them. Carpet bomb what exactly? Their infrastructure and make Iranians lives a misery? For what? What prior objective would that have lead to? Then Iranians preconditions for a lasting ceasefire is entirely in their favour like the russian deal was to ukraine? But you're somehow winning. If you're that retarded, if you're that retarded you lap up that orange retards nonsense on social media, then I can't help you. Keep thinking you're winning...... as your own fucking nation goes down the plug hole along with everywhere else
Peepee poopoo piss and shit
>>532672867have any ships actually passed so far?
>>532708818premature past tense hasn't worked out well for you so far but maybe you'll fool some lurkers
>>532708818hey you you didn't answer the question.iran dropped their preconditions for talks when the B-2s were an hour away.how do you explain that?
>>532708818Most of those objectives you listed are made up. Iran has lost the capability to make nukes and their enrichment equipment is destroyed. That was the first priority. The IRGC needs to die in order for those nukes to stay gone. So far, the IRGC has lost almost all of their leadership structure and the alternate group who have been in talks with Trump have yet to take control of the IRGC. Hormuz doesn't matter. We are only working on it because it affects our allies, who should be helping us with their problems at minimum.Iranians' lives were already miserable under the regime's rule. Anything that happens to the country will be pinned on them. They are already ratting out IRGC installations to CIA and Mossad and celebrated the death of the ayatollah and his son world wide. Iran's fucked. USA is going nowhere.
>>532677413...as a basis for negotiations, as with the 15-point U.S. proposal. Are you blind, retarded, or perhaps illiterate?
>>532673266>But /pol/ kept insisting America was finished and Iran was totally winning./pol/ is retardeddid you buy the dip? if not, you're retarded too
>>532709798right, so just to recap, they disagreed with those 10 points SO MUCH, they uh...they uh, decided to totally capitulate on bombing them, but specifically allow them to keep bombing israel.and they (iran) will keep the strait open, (terms and conditions apply), if countries such as israel stop bombing them, and lebanon. as long as israel stops bombing iran, and lebanon, the strait will openso uh, israel, have you sto-oh. oh no. oh no nonononononononono. NO ISRAEL NOhas anyone checked how many boats have crossed the strai-
>>532710194>cracks open a white monsterYEPTHATS AN OPEN STRAIT I TELL YA. OPEN AS THE DEVILS CRACK I TELL YA. SO MANY SHIPS. THE MOST SHIPS. MORE SHIPS THEN EVER, THE BIGGEST
>>532672867they realized they can ask for "pizzo" like the mafia does and that is quite profitable
>>532672867fuck off to uhg jeet
>>532711316oi you got a loicense for that political commentary?!
>>532672867its a fake war, and you have the mentality of a teenage girl
