>Iran loses 90% of its leadership and more than 75% of its military assets(ships, aircraft, missile and facilities)>US loses 0% of its leadership and less than 10% of its military assetsWho wins and who loses is very easy for all to see
are you fucking retarded? this wasn't a win for us you fucking retard motherfucker
>>532684090>HAHA you lost a single plane>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU COMPLETELY DEMOLISHING OUR MILITARY DOESN"T COUNTPick one and only one.
>>532684090Yeah it was. People saying America lost are the retards. You people have been moving goal posts on a daily basis for over a year.
>>532683386>US loses 0% of its leadershipWe lost our leadership when Trump got elected and filled his cabinet with malicious, incompetent clowns that are actively pillaging the country
>>532684090give it up bro you look like a retard
>>532683386congratz for winning another war, Irack never had a chance
>>532683386>>Iran loses 90% of its leadership and more than 75% of its military assets(ships, aircraft, missile and facilities)>>US loses 0% of its leadership and less than 10% of its military assets>Who wins and who loses is very easy for all to seesee winner of vietnam war
>>532683386>iran gains control of the strait of hormuz which they didn't have before the waroperation epic retardation
>>532683386Iran is better off than it was before the war migger retard. And now the world hates you.
>>532683386Well, Iran seems way better off than before this war with this deal at least. No idea what the US got out of it, but glad it's over.
>>532683386>>532684259Why is the winner capitulating to the loser's demands? Shouldn't it be the other way around?
>>532683386This is just ironic shitposting at this point
>>532684535Which iranian twitter account are you getting info from?
COPE
>>532684554Their attempts to spin this on this board as some win has failed every attempt. It's so obvious to even us chuds.
>>532683386Wars aren't decided on points lmao. It is true that you obliterated Iran's military. It is also irrelevant
>>532684625Why are negotiations using iran's 10 point plan instead of america's 15 point plan?
>>532683386>0% of its leadershiptrumps replaced like half of his cabinet already lmaohegseths out soon too lmao
>>532684488It will take a decade or more to rebuild all the things they lost in 30 days.
>>532683386>dude we destroyed 15, 50 year old jets we 100 percent destroyed their airforce>dude we destroyed 30 ships, we destroyed their navy they where known for.so ur military asset number is fake.>dude we killed 40 of their leadersoh no they got replaced big deal.>all us middle east bases gone>strait has a toll>allies lost refineries and ports that will take a decade or more to repair.
>>532684739lmao no it wont, they only used a fraction of their missile arsenal most of the shit the miggers blew up were defunct shit from the iran-iraq war that's useless today
>>532684489Embarassing. Fuck Trump.
>>532684200What surprises me the most is how we effectively killed most of their leadership, and Muslims don't consider that to be any loss at all. Muslims just don't seem to care about other dead Muslims. Even thousands of them.
>>532683386Who cares about a bunch of old men? Everyone now have to pay them and Oman money to use the strait. Things got worse than before the war.
>>532683386Iran also loses:>95% steel production>100% aluminum production>90% natural gas production>75% crude oil refineries>25% livestock farms>Top engineering universities>Automobile and home appliance production>Physics and engineering professors related to drone development>Rail networkIran is gonna be a failed state very quickly.
>>532684976In return they get 2 billion per week in tolls
>>532684976>Iran is gonna be a failed state very quickly.like America ? lol
>>532684488>Iran is better off than it was before the warThat is a genuinely crazy statement. Their entire internal infrastructure got its door kicked in. There's barely a state left there.
>>532683386The US killed lots of people and destroyed lots of stuff and still managed to be held economic hostage by the country they attacked
>>532684964I doubt the Iranians care that much about getting to tax every ship that goes through hormus, that seems just to be a bit extra salt in the wound. What's important to them is that the pre-war sanctions are lifted and that dismantling the nuclear program isn't part of any peace agreement. Seems like Iran got everything they wanted and then some.
>>532684703That's not what's happening at all. If you read anything other than IRGC propaganda, the 10-point plan is going to be considered as framework for negotiating the 15-point plan. But they are opening the strait completely and they are not getting nukes.>>5326850532 million, retard. And that's if they get it.
>>532683386how are they still closing the strait? genuine question? what are they using and how have the us not blown it up
>>532685053>2 billion per week in tollsAnd what does that do for them, they can't spend the money on anything. The stuff they need to rebuild itself takes multiple years to plan and build.
>>532685146The 2 million is per ship, not per week.
>>532683386>memeflag >1pbtid
>>532683386it's just like my videogames
>>532683386>memeflaggot posts retarded shill propaganda
>>532684866You want it to be true but it isn't. They spent over two decades building missiles for this and their capability was degraded from few hundred missiles a day to a handful of missiles a day in only one month.
>>5326851462 million per ship, about 1.8 billion per week>>532685183Lmao you think Iran doesn't trade with anyone?
>>532684939It's a death cult, they had a bunch of hijabi breeding cattle form a line wth their children in hopes that US wouldn't bomb them.They're truly an evil regime.
>>532683386This defeat is utterly humiliating for the US. Your retarded president started an illegal war (it wasn't approved by congress) and then capitulated to all the demands of America's most fanatical enemy, effectively significantly strengthening their position in the region and weakening America's position. Now he and all his cultist grifters try to somehow spin this utter failure and embarrassment as a win. A very sad day to be an American. This unimaginable defeat will be one for the history books.
>>532685222The last minute 10-point cope of the IRGC is not what's being considered.
>>532684424And what is Vietnam up to these days aside for sucking white (and black ew) tourist dick?It’s the same thing with Iran. You can say whatever you want, but in 20 years where would you want to be born?You want to be a white American or a brown Iranian?
>>532683386the US not losing any of its leadership is a loss for the US
>>532684090A nuclear Iran is a good thing for the American people. Where do you think that nuke will be pointed?
>>532684939They were prepared for this war and they kmow how kikes worksBasically they had entire dinasties of these leaders readyOne dies, the heir takes place in immediatly
>>532685301lmao they will be building more missiles than ever and they'll be better now that they've been successfully tested
>>532685094If that were the case the war would still be going on
>>532683386>less than 10% of its military assetsless then 1%
>>532683386We have leadership?
>>532685455>And what is Vietnam up to these daysCelebrating the time they defeated the US in a war
>>532685560Perhaps the US should bomb Iran some more since it only makes them produce missiles faster according to your logic.
>>532683386Congrats bro those third rollers that throw rocks at the sky managed to shoot down multiple high-tech American aircraft even though they're too stupid to do that. You're such a hardcore winner good thing you didn't spend all that money fixing the roads or building better schools or Hell putting that effort into fixing the economy and making lives for the American people better. So glad we have a senile president that is getting pegged by the Jews harder than your mom
>>532685770They won't though because they lost faggot HAHAHAHA
>>532685738Damn man, I’m glad that really helped their nation prosper all these years later.Oh wait.
>>532684090stupid retard
>>532683386America lost its entire leadership as a nation just watching its "allies" get pummeled for weeks impotently. It also lost most of its actually valuable assets in the region and depleted its standoff missile and interceptor stockpiles. The petrodollar was also wounded in the process.
>>532685890>haha iran stronk!! stronker than before bombs!! >wanna get bombed some more to become even stronger? >p-pls don't bombEven you don't believe your non-existing false logic.
>>532685455>And what is Vietnam up to these days aside for sucking white (and black ew) tourist dick?doing pretty well compared to you, it seems
>>532686144How's the weather in Eglin?
>>532686144you cucked out because you ran out of jassms and intercepters retard
>>532683386Frankly, there's no good response to this. That's a complete decimation of a country's military within several weeks. All without nukes, just old material with an upcoming expiry date.
>>532683386Don’t know why you had to phrase it that way since it’s less than .01% of US assets lost.
>>532686194Some people are so far behind in the race that they actually believe they’re winning.
>>532686525Anyone saying that Iran is stronger after being bombed to hell is a retard. No way around it lil buddy.
>>532686722kek it's like seeing brazilian or indian posts sometimes. YJK there's literally no point attempting to explain something to an animal.
>>532684964>inb4 Trump made a secret deal with them to get a fee.
This reddit flood is unbearable
and now they're making 2 billion a week collecting tollsyeah massive win retard, he fucking pussed out
>>532683386
>>532687033No they are not, you faggot. >>532685443
>>532684259USA Goals of War: (X marks a change)> Nuclear disarmament X> Regime Change X> Military destruction X> Opening the strait the U.S. closed off themselves X (its paid in yuan now)> depletion of uranium X(You’re here)> finding a way to get out of the messNot only have they never had nukes or even close to having any, we have radicalized an entire generation of Iranians with war crimes, they aren’t anywhere near “depleted militarily” or we would be posting selfies in Tehran. Good luck getting out.
>>532683386Also jews are seething which is great.
>>532686768They're in a far stronger position. American presence in the US got deleted. Their aura got deleted. Their new generation of missiles will be far better, just like they were after the 12 day war not even a year ago. The world sees them as heroes. A bridge and some Tomcats and patrol boats got blown up. Who cares?
War isn't about who kills more; it's about objectives achieved. US hasn't achieved its objective of regime change in the Islamic Republic, so technically it has been defeated, no matter how many war crimes it continues to commit. On the other hand, the Iranian regime only had to survive, and it did. In fact, it's even stronger now within the country, so technically it won.If it were only about who kills more, US would have won in Vietnam.
Iran’s biggest threat are their proxies and potential for a nuclear weapon >b-but air defenses/ IRGC leadersDoesn’t matter If Trump>agrees to let Iran toll the Strait>agrees to stop Israel from attacking Hezbollah in Lebanon>lifts sanctions on Iran or unfreezes their assets >lets Iran keep their enriched uranium stockpile >allows Iran to continue enriching uranium Then this whole war was completely pointless and a waste of lives and billions of dollars
>>532685482at Tel'Aviv?
>>532685691Yeah, this guy.
>>532687572If trump lets any of that happen, Iran is going nuke people. No, the IRGC needs to be completely exterminated.
>>532687572>Then this whole war was completely pointless and a waste of lives and billions of dollarshave you heard of Afghanistan?
>>532687383Their oil wells, factories, power plants and foundries got destroyed. That's not nothing. Yes the ships and planes don't matter but that does. They can't rearm quickly without that. Especially steel and oil.
>>532687383>They're in a far stronger position. American presence in the US got deleted.>logistics and energy isn't importantWe already know you are fucking retarded but exactly how fucking retarded are you?
>>532683386Ofc it's clear as day, shitskins and libshits will keep spamming cope threads though. Feel free to ignore their screeching lmfaoLook here, the first post is one crying hahahahahhahahaa >>532684090
>>532684090If Iran won then America won in 1812. You can't have it both ways.
>>532687519deaths but also infrastructure damage. It's nothing to shrug at. Let's say I punched you in the face and then just walked away, do you think you would come off as if you won that scenario?
>>532687572>Then this whole war was completely pointlesskilling Islamists is never pointless
>>532687622Exactly, so in a weird way America (and to a greater extent the rest of the world) won, apart from Israel. Now all we need is for Israel to provoke Iran once more and our victory will be complete. It's 12D chess, "to decieve your enemies, you must first decieve your other enemies..."
>>532684703>Why are negotiations using iran's 10 point plan instead of america's 15 point plan?Because you lost.
>>532687862>Their oil wells, factories, power plants and foundries got destroyedno they didn't retardbesides that shit doesnt matter just ask your pals in ukraine. they're easily fixed.
>>532683386>Violence arms itself with the inventions of Art and Science in order to contend against violence. Self-imposed restrictions, almost imperceptible and hardly worth mentioning, termed usages of International Law, accompany it without essentially impairing its power. Violence, that is to say, physical force (for there is no moral force without the conception of States and Law), is therefore the means; the compulsory submission of the enemy to our will is the ultimate object. In order to attain this object fully, the enemy must be disarmed, and disarmament becomes therefore the immediate object of hostilities in theory. It takes the place of the final object, and puts it aside as something we can eliminate from our calculations. Iran is not disarmed. Consequently, the US and Israel have not achieved victory.
>>532683386The U.S. lost all its allies and credibility to guarantee free trade in the world. The petro dollar is going to crash and the U.S. will revert back to a theirs world country within this century.
>>532683386>0% of its leadershipIf you are a kike. Otherwise, they lost 99% of its leadership. >>532684939Trump don't care about you and your soldiers either. He only cares about Israel.
>>532688416>The U.S. lost all its allies and credibility to guarantee free trade in the world. The petro dollar is going to crash and the U.S. will revert back to a theirs world country within this century.
>>532688270>>532688278>>532688307Holy shit I actually cant believe how fucking retarded you libshits actually are lmfao, literally cannot consider you a sentient being after seeing your cope threads spam these days and the absolute idiocy posted. Like imagine parroting IRANIAN propaganda hahahahah holy 20 IQ brains
>>532687716Iran hasn’t and won’t nuke anyone because their previous targets are now paying them a billion a month to stroll by their border. If you’re Iran, would you want infinite war and destruction or infinite money? Even the most radical Islamist would take the money and shut up and I suggest you do the same before more markets are stripped from the US
>>532683386>US loses 0% of its leadership and less than 10% of its military assetsThat's not true. Trump fired people left and right.>>532684259Literally nothing changed.>no regime change>no unconditional surrender>still has nuclear capability>will get even worse for the people of iran in the futureAnd apparently if Israel didn't bomb Iran, there would have been a ceasefire earlier. I have no idea how people can brag about their military spending, capabilities and intelligence when this is the result bombing a backwater hole of a country. And no one will ever trust America ever again.Congratulations I guess.
>>532684939>What surprises me the most is how we effectively killed most of their leadership>weplease, don't lump us with those reckless assassins in Israel. America would never go on such a murder campaign, especially of the very people we were negotiating with
>>532683386I'm glad Israel lost the tranny plant.
>>532683386Meanwhile trump gets impeached and USA gets a regime changePraise be to allah
>>532683386What if US was 1000 kilometres from the iran? Would the American losses be the same? Will Trump still be alive?
>>532683386I love to see this much MIGGER seethe.bump.
>>532684939Stream sniping only works if there's huge part of the native population that hate their leaders' guts. Which is true but they aren't in Iran.
>>532683386>>Iran loses 90% of its leadership and more than 75% of its military assets(ships, aircraft, missile and facilities)Iranian population: Fuck Israel! Keep fighting!>>US loses 0% of its leadership and less than 10% of its military assetsAmerican population: And the war! Fuck Israel!Everything else is smoke on the wind bruv.
>>532688540>libshitsYour country is openly socialist. You literally cannot conceive of how conservative I am. It is outside of your conceptual framework.>literally cannot consider you a sentient being after seeing your cope threads spam these days and the absolute idiocy posted.So has America triumphed here where it did not upon Serbia? Serbia lost the peace, not the war.>imagine parroting IRANIAN propagandaTwould be folly. Iranian propaganda is on par with Serbian banter during their noble resistance to American aggression. But the kebabs have a point and quite frankly they have won this war. Turns out that worst Turk is not actually Turk, it is Israel.
>>532688540>libshitsI am literally a nazi you kike migger faggot. You people are worse than liberals.
Not sure if it's because of diabetes or genetics but a lot of Americans can't understand anything beyond basic concepts. For example the concept of a phyric victory doesn't make sense to them because to them everything is black and white similar to autistic people. Wtf has America actually achieved here?
>>532688644>country with a track record of blatantly committing perfidy will suddenly not commit perfidy this one time because we say so
>>532689538Destroying Iran hurts china.Destroying communism benefits the US.
BROWN!Coping like a bitchtill the janny screamsBROWN!Seething kike demonthat drives your dreamsYou're on a BROWN road, nobody caresif you catch a JDAM.You gotta think fast, larp like a queera shithole is where you am.You gotta keep mutt-aidin your BROWNIE fag-holeif you wanna survive!Goat fuckin' mancope and seethe in the palm of your hand.Hardwired slutbettin your life onthe thrill of the ZUTT.Make up some shitdon't let 'em laugh & gloatUnder the hood got the bad and the goodeverybody's doing the goatBROWN!Coping like a bitchtill the janny screamsBROWN!Seething kike demonthat drives your dreams!!!BROWN!!!!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oHpWw7L3d4&list=RD_oHpWw7L3d4&start_radio=1
>>532689630China will rebuild Iran like they are building Africa they need them for energy inputs. If anything china will basically own Iran after this. Give me one example of Iran being more communist than Israel. Israel is basically just Marxism that Americans pay for.
>>532689630giving iran a permanent revenue stream that's larger than their oil industry is a good thing?
>>532684939>What surprises me the most is how we effectively killed most of their leadership, and Muslims don't consider that to be any loss at all.if the US capitol building was bombed during a joint session address by the president, the rest of the country would carry on just fine and we'd have a new crop of blackmailed sociopaths in power within a fortnight. our 'leaders' are anything but
>>532689554The only country with a track record of dropping nukes is the one who spent the weekend threatening to “send Iran back to the Stone Age”, revisited invading Greenland (NATO), shitting on any country that has English as a first or second language, and wrapped it up with a nice “Praise Allah” on Easter morning. You think that screams “stable partner”?
>>532689554>>country with a track record of blatantly committing perfidyYou're in no position to sling such accusations my jude, nor to make any demands.
>>532690055russioan tier whataboutism, congrats you are now honorary cosmonaut
>>532689735Americans are at best 50% white (and Im doubtful on how white that 50% really is) yet you call everyone brown. Anyone with over 80iq or who doesn't use ai to turn a fat orange pedophile into a chad is brown
>>532689630>Destroying communism benefits the US.If that were true we would have destroyed it back in WW2
>>532684200>>532684259Get a load of these faggot kikes seething xD
>>532689133>You literally cannot conceive of how conservative I am.You should unieonically kill yourself.Conservatism is the goyslop ethos created by literal Marxist fucking Jews fleeing the Soviet Union in favor of decentralized hyper-capitalist niggerfied America, concocted to feed to the goyslop enjoying fuckwit dog brains like you to justify the most vile emmanations and abhorrent consequences.I'm an Amerixan, and I cannot fathom anything more fucking disgusting, more worthy of being called in the Darwinian sense, than those willingly espousing the "conservative" ethos.
>>532690185Jew tier deflection, stay on topic Shlomo.You are in no fucking position to accuse ANYBODY of "perfidy", you perfidious sallow fucking whore.
>>532689133Lol what? First if all my country is not socialist at all.Secondly, we lost against NATO, no one here is coping otherwise. Was it an unfair fight? Absolutely, but we definitely lost.I dont understand a conservative that supports mudslimes and parrots libshit talking points, what is wrong with your brain?>>532689143National-SOCIALIST, go fuck yourself commie scum.
>>532690185Whataboutism requires equal actions on both sides, Iran does not have and has never used nukes; the people hawking down their civilian infrastructure are. It’s more the pot calling the kettle black when it is white and the pot is blowing up schoolgirls inside the white kettle because a kike told it to and nobody has any reason as to why it started or is even there to begin with other than the kike
>>532690382>I know you are but what am Iyou are what you are, I am not what you are. I support the natural order, you are a socialist who merely believes that the government is engaging in wealth redistribution in the way you prefer it to happen.
>>532690616There is nothing of "the natural order" in conservatism.Again: Your identity is a crafted stance, created by literal Marxist Jews, to feed to goyslop enjoying dog brain chattle peasants like you to justify the negative outcomes of their perfidiohs fucking kike scheming.This is a rejection of the natural order in favor, not an embracing of it.Socialism, collective action of like organisms, is quite fucking literally the natural order across all clades, fronts and vistas of conception, let alone those of complex social order and hierarchical function.You are an anti-life dog brain with a head full of literal Jewish nonsense and you need to shut the fuck up.
>>532690593>I dont understand a conservative that supports mudslimes and parrots libshit talking pointsIf you prioritize mudslimes over kikes as foes, if you even imply they are near equaks, you are a Jewbrained retard on par with an American conservative.
>>532690593>First if all my country is not socialist at all.Serbia's social card system is a free market then?>we lost against NATOThis is a reductive view of what happened. Serbia was promised by Russia that they would make NATO abide by the terms of a deal that NATO did not keep and Russia did not hold them to. As it stood Serbia could have kept resisting until Clinton fucked off. The only genuine problem for Serbia militarily was the Croatian and Bosnian ground offensive. The NATO involvement were not body blows, merely itchy pinpricks from a military perspective. Mihael Mihaelovoch is an excellent author on the weakness of the NATO air campaign.>I dont understand a conservative that supports mudslimes and parrots libshit talking points, what is wrong with your brain?Libshits are like a broken clock which is right twice a day. Libshits are frequently correct when they hate the government, although usually for the wrong reasons.>>532690812>There is nothing of "the natural order" in conservatism.Would you mind articulating a definition of conservatism? I daresay you sound like you are conflating national socialism with conservatism.>Socialism, collective action of like organisms, is quite fucking literally the natural order across all clades, fronts and vistas of conception, let alone those of complex social order and hierarchical function.oh, you're just a lefty in denial.
>>532691078Oh shut the fuck up your perfidious cretin.Again, your entire identity, self professed, is a cardboard cutout for golems.You cry about "leftist in denial", but your entire identity is an anti-Life construct designed by literal Marxist Jew, who accurately viewed your ilk as ripe for seeding the poison of hyper-individualism, leading to atomization, deracination, demoralization and alienation, combined into a single retarded ideal - "conservatism" - and fed to dog brain goyslop enjoying peasants like you for generations.You are, quite literally, a leftists pet project in denial, claiming that to stand against the world as a collective of like organisms is "against the natural order".Pure Jewish tripe.
>>532691378>I support government (jewish) ownership of the means of production.>STOP CALLING ME A LEFTY JEW YOU ANTISEMITEYou don't deserve more until you come up with a defense of taxation which doesn't come down to "well it's okay when the government does it".
>>532690485you got me confused with someone else faggot
>>532690611no it doesnt everything you say here is incorrect and brown
>>532691666Read the rest of his posts, he's an unabashed natsoc.
>>532691739larper you mean he is a leftypol faggot nigger
>>532690886I like jews anon, sorry but they never murdered my people like mudslimes did.>>532691078Social card system? You mean social aid for the turbo poor? Man they barely get scrap it's a sad excuse for help and that's not what socialism is lol, it's 1% of what socialism is if that.Regarding GAYTO, if we kept fighting we would've been erradicated. There is a reason we surrendered, our soldiers were brave and amazing but they werent stupid.I can never support a mudshit as they have tried time and time again to murder or enslave my people, the US glassing terrorists will always be good in my eyes.
>>532686768They're in a strategically stronger position. Anyone claiming otherwise is low IQ. This is like saying the Soviet Union was weaker in 1945 than in 1939 lol.
>>532690055At least we follow up when we say we are going to nuke someone's ass.>>532690074Proof?
>>532687383This is going to be this wars /k/ope, throw it in the Vietnam and Afghanistan pile.
>>532683386>MUH KDA!Victory is when the enemy secures control over one of the more important geographical features in the world and a new revenue source, got it.
>>532691078>>532691830And back to the topic, surviving a war isnt winning anon.If you got your entire air land and sea army obliterated and your country crippled but you "survived" because you arent entirely gone that's not a win lol.Being set back 20 - 50 years is a major loss to any nation, by all metrics Iran fucking lost BIG time here.
>>532684090A huge win for Israel.
>>532691830>Social card system? You mean social aid for the turbo poor?I'm a hardcore capitalist. I think the very existence of taxes is lefty shit. Using taxes for bribing poor people for votes is about as commie as you can get.>Regarding GAYTO, if we kept fighting we would've been erradicated.You should actually look into what NATO was talking about internally at the time. There were on the ragged edge of what they could do, another few months and they'd have to basically call it quits for a couple years to overhaul their air fleets for maintenence, and they had no idea where any Serbian military equipment was, since by their stats they had destroyed the entire Serbian military 10x over. Meanwhile the Serbian military was still able to contest their airspace and was still fighting competently on the ground.>There is a reason we surrendered, our soldiers were brave and amazing but they werent stupid.I revere your brave kebabliminators, but your leaders were cowards and retards.>I can never support a mudshit as they have tried time and time again to murder or enslave my people, the US glassing terrorists will always be good in my eyes.The mudshits you fought were supported from the word go by the USA and Israel. Even before the mudshit involvement Israel was supporting Slovenia's secession and arming them. You are buying too much of NATO and your own government's narrative and not aware enough of the actual history of what happened.
>>532684739The issue is, when they rebuild/replace the stuff, it will be better, and built in the style of what survived this go round.China is going to be shipping in a shit ton of modern military hardware
>>532683386Miggers spamming cope is some of the funniest shit I’ve seen on /pol/ in a while.
>>532692310Even if we survived our nation was ruined, retarded leaders, rabid secessionists and half the planet on top of that attacking us.Not to mention we never threatened to nuke anyone and we didnt send terrorist proxies to murder people so our situation can hardly be comparable to sandnigger scum.>I revere your brave kebabliminators, but your leaders were cowards and retards.Thanks and yeah they were.>The mudshits you fought were supported from the word go by the USA and Israel.USA yes but Israel? Nah, no proof of that and they'd have nothing to gain.And even in the case of the US, it was demoshit scum with clinton in charge, its also one of the reasons I like Trump so much. He shat all over their satanistic party and he will keep shitting on them until they all fucking die.
>>532683386>Who winsiran, cos you've agreed to replace all the stuff you broke.
Israel is literally getting blown up by Iran as we speak. I guess they couldn't accept the terms. You're shits all retarded if you think this is close to being over.>Listen all y'all, it's a sabotage>Listen all y'all, it's a sabotage>Listen all y'all, it's a sabotage>Listen all y'all, it's a sabotage
>>532683386Yes. It’s easy to see America lost.
>>532692915>Even if we survived our nation was ruined, retarded leaders, rabid secessionists and half the planet on top of that attacking us.You'd been bombed a bit. But had you kept going you could have held onto a lot of Yugoslavia. Croatia was honestly cooked militarily, Bosnia was basically just an Al-qaeda front, and there were no other serious strongholds of armed resistance. Any infrastructure that had been bombed had redundancies in the clay you abandoned.>Not to mention we never threatened to nuke anyone and we didnt send terrorist proxies to murder people so our situation can hardly be comparable to sandnigger scum.Iran's never done either, both those claims are Israeli propaganda.>Thanks and yeah they were.I am glad you agree on the most uncontroversial of points.>Israel? Nah, no proof of that and they'd have nothing to gain.It's hard to find English language sources for this and I don't speak Slav, but I had a Slovenian girlfriend once (Slovene chicks are freaks in bed, don't judge me) and spent a few months living in Slovenia. I went to a Museum with an exhibit all about Israel's massive covert aid to Slovenia during the 10 day war (notice how they even use Israel's nomenclature for how they name wars?) and my girlfriend (of the time, we do not get along at all anymore) told me a grand tale about how Israel owes a huge debt of gratitude to Israel. If you keep pushing this I'll dig into it deeper, but I bet your own language media will have better sources than I can find.>And even in the case of the US, it was demoshit scum with clinton in charge, its also one of the reasons I like Trump so much. He shat all over their satanistic party and he will keep shitting on them until they all fucking die.You're conflating Trump in his first term with Trump in his second term. Trump's not even smart enough to be a midwit. He's a moderately below averagewit.
>>532683386>>532692705how the turn tables...
>>532693380Cool.
>>532683386> The US loses less than 10% of its military assetsmore like less than 1% of its military assets anon
>>532693752There would be zero reason for Israel to aid Slovenia but I will research it.>You're conflating Trump in his first term with Trump in his second term.I dont agree with you on Trump, he is probably the best president America has had in the last 40 years imho.Anyway nice talk, I dont understand your Trump hate or why you refuse to celebrate when your nation shits on an enemy and specially when the enemy is a mudslime but atleast you were willing to engage in sane dialog without spewing retarded cope like the majority of retards that seem to be infesting this place as of late.I shall go to sleep now, have a nice day anon.
>>532694104The US would have needed tens of thousands of ground troops to open the Strait. It would have caused hundreds, if not thousands, of US casualties.The Strait is now open with zero US casualtiesTrump won bigly. Trump obliterated the Persians. Alexander the Great would be proud
>>532683386>Who wins and who loses is very easy for all to seeyes, it really is. very easy. how are u missing it?
>>532683386>less than 10% of its military assets?????It's maybe 0.001%. We lost approx 0.005% of our aircraft in the rescue thing and that's basically it. There has never been a war this dominant in modern history. 10% would be crazy.
>>532683386Trump also had Islamic sharia council wiped out as well. Im not sure what government Iran will have going forward but the reign of mullahs has ended
>>532694233Trump didn't make America great again. He Made Iran Great Again.
>>532694373Cool, what about the strait? And your taxes will be going up to replace those munitions the US wasted in the first week of the war.
>>532694227>There would be zero reason for Israel to aid Slovenia but I will research it.They didn't do it for free. Slovenia paid a lot for it and now that they are part of the EU their debts are mostly covered by Germany.>I dont agree with you on Trump, he is probably the best president America has had in the last 40 years imho.Has a man ever been damned by fainter praise?>I dont understand your Trump hateI was too young to realize Clinton was evil, I never trust Bush, I was betrayed by Obama who promised to undo what Bush did, and then Trump promised to fix everything and he fooled me twice. Shame on me, and I'm fucking mad about it. Here I am in an increasingly vile surveillance state, with an undrained swamp, and Trump is fighting wars we cannot afford to the benefit of people who I consider more enemy than friend, or even neutral.>I shall go to sleep now, have a nice day anon.I should too, I've had a few.
>>532694473Iran literally needs hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild its devastated economy, infrastructure, and military. That is not the definition of winning, anon
>>532685183With sanctions lifted China will rush in for those lucrative contracts to rebuild Iran.Iran rebuilds and China gets a huge cash influx
>>532683386He put up a better fight honestly, both times.
>>532694530Miggers think bragging rights put food on the table. Like it’s cooler to pay 9 dollars a gallon for gas, and be able to rah rah for Trump winning. Retarded fags don’t get it. Shit in one hand and put your bragging rights in the other and see which fills up faster.
>>532684200Who lost more shit Nazi Germany or the USSR? Who won?
>>532694530We spend $4 billion dollars per day on military when we're not at war, just blowing shit up for fun. This war cost $1 billion per day. Why am I the only nigger left on /pol/ who knows anything? Did everyone with an IQ above 90 permanently leave for X? You're not even a demotivation op, you're just a retarded spic invader. I hate the intellectual pit of shit this place has become and it's because of subhumans like you.
>>532694605>Iran literally needs hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild its devastated economy, infrastructure, and military. That is not the definition of winning, anonIt is, since Trump's original goal of this entire thing was regime change. That was literally the first thing they said when they killed the Supreme Leader was regime change. Now his son runs things and the government is solidified for life. All they have to say to their people is "US Israel did it" and they will hate our asses for the rest of existence. Pic related. This was the posters in the Italian Social Republic about the Allies.
>>532694605>Iran literally needs hundreds of billions of dollars to rebuild its devastated economy, infrastructure, and military.So Iran can rebuild with few months tolls from their Hormuz tollbooth?>That is not the definition of winningDo you mind telling me what Carl von Clausewitz defined as winning?
>>532683386Dude, this is the gayest “win” in the history of America.
>>532694800The son died anon and most of irgc died as well. Islamic councils are not even functioning currently
>>532694767Obviously your reading comprehension didn't lmao
>>532685183What are you even saying? Iran trades heavily with BRICs and now that Trump lifted sanctions (even temporarily), they can do so with the Western World again.
>>532684976Chinks are going to swarm the place and rebuild it using the toll money to pay for it. Then they'll build the Iranians an integrated air defence network.Strategic Iranian victory.
Alright every have their mourning time and report back for the next phase
Democrats gave us Carter, a nice fellow not a leader of a nation in times of crisis more akin to leading a charity, Iran took US hostages and he had no response at all the US lived almost 50 years under Iran threatening death to America with US politicians pissing their polyester in fear. Clinton, affable fellow, treacherous with personal threats to his standing, liar, 1993 world trade center bombing the precursor to 911 and he didn't respond to any degree and 911 rocks the country in 01.Obama, nice affable fellow, not a lot of drama, droned some people, eight years of seeming stability, his cabinet are still influencing politicians and lobbies today. Biden, nice fellow, allowed anyone in that could walk in no vetting at all thanks to Obama people pulling his strings, allegedly terror cells here on US soil because why not, they were shown the welcome sign. The only one that was a progressive is Obama but he was savvy enough not to let the radical show, probably because his wife said don't we have kids. Each one had a hand in where we are today. Conservative presidents get branded with warmonger title. But when everything is left to them to clean up because liberals refuse to get their hands dirty, they do take decisive action. Call Iraq Afghanistan a never ending war if you like, the truth is it was a very valuable training ground. President Trump showed the world that training paid for itself in weeks. You can't run a nation with no, we won't hurt you have your way with us. So fucking don't.
>>532694860Chinese dont know how to build infrastructure. In Serbia they tried to make train station and it collapsed and massacred over 20 people
>>532694842Not really. WW1 is way worse from a philosophical perspective. We went from saying "force is not the way to prove our side is right, we should engage in a free contest of ideas" to "I'll fucking kill you if you don't obey me" in less than a decade.
>>532694848>The son died anon and most of irgc died as well. Islamic councils are not even functioning currentlyThe son is not dead and the ISLAMIC Republic of Iran is still functioning as a state.
>>532695038Not really at all. IRGC splintered and son is dead anon, entire leadership caste was wiped out and irgc can't even enforce sharia checkpoints they are instantly bombed
>>532683386>90% leadership gone>10% beat you retardsLmao. If that's the story you want to go with sure
>>532695145Mk anon well you keep coping.
>>532695294What cope? Iran even banned internet for all Iranian people. You genuinely believe this is sustainable long term form of rule? kek
>>532694860>"Trump believes China persuaded its key ally Iran to negotiate."Thanks, Xi Jinping
Big fucking win. You won tranny.
>>532683386>iran already replaced all the leadership who got killed >only 6000 of Iran’s half a million strong army died>iran now controls the straits and will be making mad bank>china and Russia will just rebuild irans military in a couple of years >>532684200>single plan You lost like 13
>>532695399Make sure you pay your fee to enter.
>>532695652Youre posting Twitter anon from literal irgc glowie. And the irgc miltisry wing got massacred. Youre living in world that no longer exists.
>>532684939>american can’t comprehend a countries leaders actually being willing to die for their country Sad!
>>532695711You'll get to the acceptance stage by the end.
>>532695004If your reason is based on stereotypes and memes in online space you are underestimating the situation.Shenzhen is a good example of that.And that's saying something because I don't even like china
>>532694800Iran did not achieve its goal of deterring future US/Israeli attacks, and cannot rebuild its nuclear program. Iran can't stop the US from sending more ground troops to the region
>>532695626see >>532694857
>>532695652Just more propaganda from people who were 4 hours from total collapse.
>>532683386lol, america paying them money back and the strait is theirs.
>>532683386>strait was open, Iran couldn't make any money of it>start retarded war>lose it>surrender>Iran now makes 10% of the GDP out of the straitThis is the most embarrassing defeat in the long, pathetic history of US military defeats. Even Putin is looking fine right now
>>532683386>Gay pride parades in Tehran 2026: 0You lost.
>>532696670How did it stop them now?
>>532684200>5 planes shot down in a single outing, which Globohomo vehemently denied at first and only accepted the losses because of Iranian proof>but didn't lose a single manhow do these niggers expect anyone to believe bullshit like that
>>532688686You just did and your president openly threatened genocide on Iran.
noise
>>532685132The Iranian toll in the strait is important to them because it codifies Iranian control. They also need the money for the reconstruction as they are extremely unlikely to receive reparations from the US.
>>532684939it's not called a "death cult" for nothing
>>532685169all they have to do is say they mined the strait and no one is going to call their bluff
>>532683386>America lost>To sandniggersOr>America won>Gained nothing>Warred as a chimpout
>>532694684yeah, Iran's defense was fucking garbage and I think their 'soldiers' are just security guards.
Let the MIGA's have their cope, it keeps the peace
>>532694808>Iran can rebuild its economy and military with few months tolls from its Hormuz tollbooth?LMAO
>>532683386>That money won't be invested in productive people aka white people but instead wasted on useless jews and niggersThis is why chinks are waiting
>>532697269Americans are dominated by jews and jews forgot that without whites they can't do shit KEK
>>532698611Chinksects will rebuild on credit.
>>532684090Hello ahmed
>>532684090yes it was, shill jew
>>532683386usa won, why - who has the most oil, im waiting, an who has no toll to dock on usa soil... huh funny how cutting out the middle man works. but u lefties are to stupid to look past your nose, we won. u lost again.
>>532683386real world is not HoI4 you stupid fucker
>>532684090yes it is...... u short sighted mongrel .usa won, why - who has the most oil, im waiting, an who has no toll to dock on usa soil... huh funny how cutting out the middle man works. but u lefties are to stupid to look past your nose, we won. they lose.
>>532684346>We lost our leadership when Trump got electedoh look a TDS patient rears its retarded heerr derrr hEAD PISS OFF.
>>532699380Iran's Strait of Hormuz revenues will be comparable to Egypt's peak Suez Canal revenues of $700 to 800 million per month
>>532684484usa won, why - who has the most oil, im waiting, an who has no toll to dock on usa soil... huh funny how cutting out the middle man works. but u lefties are to stupid to look past your nose, we won. u lost again.
>>532683386Why post edited photos of Trump? Are you ashamed of how your leader looks? Maybe it's how you'd like him to look, cause you are faggots who find men attractive.
>>532688211Israel deserves getting nuked.
>>532684792>>all us middle east bases gone>>strait has a toll>>allies lost refineries and ports that will take a decade or more to repair.all oil will now come from USA...... to bad iran u loose. usa won, why - who has the most oil, im waiting, an who has no toll to dock on usa soil... huh funny how cutting out the middle man works. but u lefties are to stupid to look past your nose, we won. u lost again.
>>532684903another TDS thing,
>>532684200their military isn't even remotely scuffedespecially when china is getting the opportunity to real-world test all their new shit
>>532690215the fact they even need to post at all says a lot
>>532685053quick point- no one has to USE the strait now.. USA has way more oil in reserve start drilling now , usa won, why - who has the most oil, im waiting, an who has no toll to dock on usa soil... huh funny how cutting out the middle man works. but u lefties are to stupid to look past your nose, we won. u lost again.
>>532685091>like America ? lollook whose flag is talking, SIT boo boo or you are next
>>532695626Isn't USA supposed to pay reparations and remove some of it's forceses from middle east.
>>532699558This is going to be the same thing Israel has done several times. The US and Israel will use this ceasefire to regroup, rearm, and relaunch the war.This ceasefire won't last, and Iran is fucked
>>532683386>Iran loses 90% of its leadershipThe supreme leader of Iran is the son of the previous supreme leader
>>532687288oh I'm sorry they're making LESS than that while still controlling the Strait that was open before this stupid shit started, my bad I didn't realize how far you mongoloids were willing to go to justify this retardation
>so regime change, did you change the regime>well, no, but->what about irans nuclear capabilities, you said 6 months ago, its still on the whitehouse website that you destroyed irans nuclear capabilities, you even said its fake news if anyone says other wise, why did you attack iran?>they were 2 weeks out from having nu->so your not letting them have nukes?>well, no, we have given them permission to enrich uranmiam, on the condition they open the strai->have they?>well, they have opened it to those who pay the to->hows that different from yesterday>well it isnt, bu->have you won...anything, anything at all?>well we are personally delivering billions of dollars in the form of tolls t-
>>532683386>>532684200>destroy the military >immediately pay to rebuild all of it and moreGenuinely what did he mean by this.
>>532684200You lost what little credibility you still had with this gambit. This was the equivalent of a suicide mission for the American Empire and losing has exposed that America has no ability to project power against any nations that aren't already failed states.Trump didn't even bother to address the enormous problems America has. This war was the equivalent of a guy blowing his savings on a night of cocaine and hookers before blowing his brains out in the morning.
>>532683386>Who wins and who loses is very easy for all to seeTaxpayers lost and nothing was accomlished
>>532683386another very organic pro trump/usa thread
>>532683386Iran's missiles and drones are stored underground.A large part of Iran's military industry is also underground. The Khojir plant, Iran's main production plant for large rocket motors, has a huge underground section under a nearby mountain. This is no secret; you can see the tunnel entrances on satellite imagery. The Vandar plant and Shahid Soltani plant also have similar underground sections in tunnels built under adjacent mountains. Presumably, all the most expensive and hard-to-replace machinery is located in these tunnels.
>>532683386roles can be replaced, equipment can be replacedhumiliation is eternal, 7:1
>>532699647>Before the war, about 138 ships passed through the strait each day according to the Joint Maritime Information Centre, carrying one fifth of the global oil supply.If Iran gets to charge $2m per ship on average, that is $276m per day, $8.3b per month, $101b per year
>>532691912Soviet Union in 1945 had massive lend lease just flown in, war economy in full gear and it was looting other countries. The opposite is true for Iran.
>>532683386> start pointless war> lose strategic territory> say you won> make shit up after still losing pointless war> say you won> grant massive concessions you are here> break ceasefire> lie and say it was irans fault> grant massive concessions > lose midterms > say you won
>>532683386You lost tranny, pool stays closed, US proven to be incapable of doing shit and, shit-coloured memeflag, it would have been far better for the had it lost its leadership
>>532683386>wastes billions of Dollars on a pointless war because your Jewish overlord told you to >the new regime still hates you>completely carves in>promises to even pay reparation money>gets humiliated by none of the European countries allow you to use your bases>everyone hates you even more nowChina won. The US lost
>>532703333witnessed
>>532683386Your retarded if you think the true leadership/elites of Iran is public facing. They killed the puppets, to be replaced by other puppets, that's all. The Iranian protest movement is also dead now.
>>532683386Lol you worship Israel
>>532703333And you lost your investments in the Middle east. Much of that shit Iran blew up in the gulf belonged to BP and was insured by Lloyds of London. UK banking and insurance lost a fortune in this.
>>532684090How can you not see a victory in this?The Iranians military and leadership is fucked and the world hates Israel and will no longer listen to them on any matter and will be excluded everywhere This is literally a win for everyone And the oil will most likely freely flow with no Iranians involved
>>532684090fpbp
Let's see what this "victory" entails:A blatant admission of Israeli involvement in US military decisions.Fickle treatment of European allies, who do not want to escalate an invasive "war".A complete side-swipe of the economy forcing up fuel and energy costs worldwide.Near total loss of original MAGA supporters, betraying the key elements of Trump's original platform.Assured Democrat victory in the midterms and next election.Meanwhile the world will forever remember that America are some of the most brainwashed zealots in existence.
>>532684346truth
>>532706463Nah, the MAGAsupporters are still there, i'd say at least 50-70%, at least the vocal voices on X. Jews are seething though
>>532706256I don't own BP you stupid mouth breathing nigger, what the fuck do I care about some globohomo megacorp?Do Americans really think like this?
>>532707769Shills get their marching orders from globohomo
>>532706463And they keep ignoring WHITE BIRTHRATES. Wealth is wasted on jews and niggers
>>53268338610% is a strech. <5% at best.
>bomb Iran for no reason>iran closes the strait to US and Israeli vessels only>beg allies to help open it>they say no>cry and have a public meltdown for 3 weeks>eventually get Iran to open the strait for US vessels, only after threatening nukes and praising Allah>must drop all sanctions on Iran, let them make nukes and pay a toll in yuan to use the straightArt of the kneel.
>>532683386Iran loses 10% of its military assets!!!Max!Your daydreaming is not reality!You know!!!
>>532687693x)Nice as AI imagination !But ...That is it!If they were just bit like Russians Israel could be citadel of Human Kind!But they are worse Than Original German Fascists!!!Much much Worse!!!
>>532684259>Yeah it was. People saying America lost are the retards. You people have been moving goal posts on a daily basis for over a year.You didn't win shit.Israel did lol
>>532699624Why do you want to suck trumps dick so badly?
and muttmericans lose 80% of their foreskins to a 80 old pedo rabbi. Tough fate.
>>532709739He's one of these>>532699624>>532709679Not going to deny that, David.
