Who pays the toll for the strait of hormuz? America doesn’t use it
Exactly. That's the genius.
>>532700296So why is gas 1.25 a gallon more expensive than it was two months ago?
>>532700296>trump started the war with Iran solely so he could make them wealthier by forcing the rest of the world to pay themPraise be to Allah.
>>532700296Its not that who pays, its what they pay withthey're gonna pay with yuans petrodollar will fizzle out
I look forward to none of this mattering even more than it already doesnt.
>>532700296
>>532700407>so why are gas companies capitalizing on market volatilityHoly room temperature IQ
>Heh I don't care about gas prices, I take the bus Do goyim really?
>>532700445That already ended though>>532700542We make our own and it barely went up
>>532700296The US uses fertilizer and sells a heap of cargo into the gulf, it's not just oil tankers that were stuck.
>>532700296It doesn't matter who sails there, oil price goes up no matter who paysSo america pays like everyone else
>>532700296the countries that created the petrodollar use it. if they pay the toll in yuan we are giga fucked.
>>532700858That might work in a world where only the US and Iran exist but not in the current global economy. A pinch on a major commercial route squeezes the nuts of all economies depending on it, even more if it's a major oil route. It's why Yuropeens and Japs are getting their prices BLACKED even tho they had absolutely nothing to do with this.
Why doesn't Trump force US oil companies to sell only to the US, and at a discount? He's done plenty of executive orders.
>>532701185Sounds like a problem for globalism, not America
>>532700296Why has he been begging Iran to open the strait then?
>>532700858Oil price is global you dumb fat mutt. Your companies are not charging you special MIGAmutt prices. They are charging you THE price that is set globally.
>>532700296Mostly India and Japan.Yeah it's dumb.
>>532701750>Tell me you have no business experience without telling me you have no business experience
>>532701825You don't know how the price of oil is set and that's okay, as an American, I expect you to be a mouth breathing retard, so I am not judging you.
>>532701320>International company>Fucks off to another nation>Also TACO won't seize their assets like a man
>>532701320Because it's free enterprise, don't like it, move to china
>>532700542Driving is far more goyish than public transit.
>>532701750Then why is it so much cheaper in America than in your shithole?Just hit a little under $4/gallon here btw. I consider that pretty insane.
>>532700296Why does gas keep rising if we don't use any of this, do your fucking job and stop letting the oil companies price rape us you orange nigger faggot
>>532700407Skill issue, next time gas is cheap try thinking ahead and filling up a couple 55 gallon drums in your garage
>toll rises global price of oil and gas>mutts pay more for oil and gas anyway>mutts start paying more for their asian made chips, cars and technology >haha epic win guise we dont even need the straitMutt logic as per usual.
>>5327004409D chess
>>532701868>the global price is set! That means local supply and demand must follow the global market! Especially when America is moving away from the global economy to an America first economy!Top kek. It’s like French wine froganon. Foreign exports cost more than domestic supply since there’s more demand elsewhere while it’s a common drink for you. America makes the most oil in the world, we don’t need the global economy. Have fun paying the toll and those higher prices though lol
>>532702186Paying more for stuff like that while we restart domestic manufacturing seems like a fair price to pay. Or are you suggesting we should remain reliant on foreign countries like that just cause the prices are heckin cheap? It’s not like there’s long term risk with that or anything
>>532700296>winningliest loser
>>532700539And are they gonna stop doing that now?
>>532702036Transport cost
>>532702202>no you don't understand, our jewish oil companies are going to give us a discount for no explicable reason
>>532700296>straight>of homosOh come on now
>>532702281All of you mongoloids keep talking about domestic manufacturing but you still dont domestically manufacture much. Especially things that matter, like chips and tech. Your cars are also some of the worst on the market.
>>532700296>America doesn’t use itYou think you don't??? Pay the toll cuck.
>>532702295>>532702325The gas prices are already starting to fall lol. We had like a 20% increase meanwhile other countries were facing existential crises from having only a few weeks of supply total to survive on. It’s insane how hard Trump and America have cucked the rest of the world.
>>532702391>you burgers are still in the process of restoring manufacturing but you still don’t manufacture anything!Wow we got a genius in the thread. If only our traitors hadn’t sold us out for the last fifty years. I guess we should just give up on the idea of restoring manufacturing entirely and just be a slave to china.
>>532702496Yes they are falling, because they are drastically higher than two months ago. But relatively speaking they will never be lower than before this crisis you absolute idiot.>>532702581Call me when you have strong domestic manufacturing. Ill be waiting.
>>532701911you can't move an oil drilling operation to another country as if oil reserves are the same everywhere
>>532702888lol you think onshoring manufacturing happens overnight after decades of deindustrialization? and because it doesn't happen immediately the US should just give up?
>>532702888>prices might be returning to normal but they’re still higher than before!>you might be bringing manufacturing back but it’s still not back yet!Kek, stay tuned
>>532700440What can you do with money when the house you live in is actively getting bombed?
Jesus Fucking christ. Just look at that cope.>>532700296>Who pays the toll for the strait of hormuz?US unironically. Iran takes toll in Chinese yuan which openly undermines position of USD.Rest of costs will be spread amongst entire world (US included) because oil market is open. Until US government puts ban on oil export (which won't happen), Americans are paying their share just like everyone else.Israel started this war, Iran won, US lost. It's that simple.
>>532700296Cute. Better question: who keeps the money?Israel lostThe gulf countries lost
>price of oil goes up, on average, $0.25/barrelUnparalleled victory, well done Iran.HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>532700296Everyone pays. Oil price is global, so it evens out.Gulf states locked behind the toll booth pay the most because they have the least flexibility.
> value of usd drops worldwide > all nato states refuse to help us> free waterway now a tollbooth, impacting us supply chains despite what miggers believe> definitive proof israel governs the US MIC> ceasefire probably already violated by mossad i'm tired of winning
>>532703168>>532703183The point is you'll keep talking about it, all the jewish companies will never commit to it, and you'll end up getting another biden who ruins all the progress. At no point have i said domestic manufacturing is a bad idea, stop putting words in my mouth. Mutts are all talk, no action. Second term of trump and nothing. Even with another twenty years of maga presidents you'll probably still be importing everything important.
>>532700296this is the part where mutts pretend this will actually last and that israel won't just sabotage the ceasefire (with complete impunity) and force you again into their whims for the 69th time
>>532703304>>532703368>>532703385>>532703443So you’re telling me America doesn’t pay the toll to cross the hormuz strait, but that we somehow indirectly pay for it through the global economy, the same global economy that’s been pissing and shitting over America turning away from globalism?Intredasting
>>532703580>all talk no actionTell that to all the murderers who’ve been taken off the streets in the last year. Also maduro. Also ayatollah. Kek
>>532703670The mutt mind is simply incapable of staying on a single point.
>>532700368US oil is globally traded genius
>>532703923But in Yuan, not USD, genius.
>>532703849Insane cope after getting destroyed lol
>>532700296Who gets the money? Iran. The country that Trump started this war to destroy.
>>532703980why would we charge the toll in yuan?
>>532704043>talking about manufacturing >umm ackshully we kidnapped a commie and bombed a shitskinI've been utterly decimated indeed.
>>532704073old news, america is collecting the toll now
>OPEN THE STRAIT YOU CRAZY BASTARDS OF YOU WILL LIVE IN HELL!>We don't actually need it, like, at all
Over 7% of US oil imports is from the strait btw. And that is a separate issue, if the strait is closed, domestic US oil companies will charge more.
>>532702036Taxes you fucking retard.
>>532700296The amount of cope maga tries to spin this as a win is hilarious.
>>532700296You do. Just like tariffs, taxes, duties, etc.They just raise their prices and you pay because you know damn well you're not going to walk anywhere.So fucking pay up and remember to say thank you the next time you pump gas.
>>532704107Exactly. That's the genius.
>>532704135>says they’re all talk no action>gives multiple examples of the contrary>umm actually you can’t stay on one topicKEK. Now you’re saying that America bringing manufacturing back is all talk no action despite new deals and new factories being opened constantly all over the country. Amazing cope.
>>532703595Our oil companies arent becoming isolationistWhy do you think its traded on a global market?
>>532704195>importsAnd we are a net exporter so it doesn’t matter. It’s a small price to pay to fuck over the global economy for everyone else lol
>>532704289Foreigners will pay more and that’s a good thing
>>532703595>So you’re telling me America doesn’t pay the toll to cross the hormuz strait, but that we somehow indirectly pay for it through the global economy, the same global economy that’s been pissing and shitting over America turning away from globalism?Yes. US is paying to Iran, just like everyone else because oil market knows no borders. With international demand for oil, US companies will have no reason not to export their oil higher bidders, making it more expensive in US.More over, Iranian toll is paid in Chinese yuan, which strengthens Chinese economy and weakens US economy (because so far USD was the currency on international market). Even US isolationists doesn't want USD to weaken worldwide and that's what just happened.Trump got US raped in the ass and now pretends that surprise anal sex is huge win. If you're unironically still on Trump's hype train at this point, you're retarded.
>>532704495So will we
>>532704495Oil market is global. Prices naturally equalize and you will pay as much as everyone else.Apart from that Chinese yuan took a bite on USD, which means that all these American dollars that you own, are worth less than they were and you're poorer with every payment to Iran.
>>532704696what do you mean?we're the ones charging the toll
>>532704651>strengthens chinese economy and weaken us economyIf that was true China wouldn’t have backed off on their retaliation against trumps tariffs. He’s just exposed that Iran is a chinese vassel. Trump has already done major damage economically to chinas belt and road project too. Seems like you just desperately want America to lose.
>>532701320>why doesn't a jew servant force the jews to make less money?
>>532700296Many american ships use it?
>>53270203660% of taxes if not 70% on oil.
>>532705224>China wouldn’t have backed off on their retaliation against trumps tariffsTrump taco'ed because Chinks threatened with putting ban on exports of their rear earth mineral. They won that silly trade war.>He’s just exposed that Iran is a chinese vassel.Vassal. How can you "expose" something that is well known fact?>Trump has already done major damage economically to chinas belt and road project too.How exactly? Chinese ships are always first to get free pass during every turmoil in the Middle East. With every clusterfuck that Israel starts (and Trump follows) China comes on top.>Seems like you just desperately want America to lose.It's US president that strenghtens position of China's vassals like Iran and Russia. He weakens position of US everywhere he touches. As a citizen of country that is directly threatened by Russia, I'd like strong US as a counter balance, but America is losing everything because of it's retarded administration.
>>532706221>Trump taco’dOh youre a redditor, now your posts make more sense
>>532700296Another retarded American poster who doesn't understand Brent trades as a pair with WTI and any increase in Brent price also reflects in WTI, resulting in increase American gas prices
America, in the form of international tariffs set by the allies affected by it.
>>532706318>everything I don't like is redditI think your cope is cute. It's retarded as fuck, but it's cute.
>>532706537>everything I don't likeI think it's more the quality of your argument about the china trade warit's the kind of thing that got posted in OPs and promptly defeated in detail by 100 repliesseveral times a dayfor monthsso you are both a newfag and an idiot
>>532706318>everything i dont like is a redditor>stop making fun of the deranged orange pedophile that has become the laughingstock of every nonmiggerLOLLMAO EVENYOU HAVE TO GO >>>/back/ to /r/thedonald
>>532706537You’re using reddit mainstream media jargon and acting like you’re not a redditor lol. Talk about cute. You weren’t even aware that Trump fucked up chinas belt and road project in south america. Now it seems that china has to pay full price for oil in the Middle East instead of their cheap sanctioned deal. Go ahead and keep thinking that china is winning cause all the headlines say so kek.
>>532706746Only redditors say TACO nice try at gaslighting though
>>532700296More important, what happens if they decide to charge the toll in yuan?
>>532701868>French socialist who makes $40k a year explains how economics worksLmao
>>532706842i never had a reddit account in my whole fucking life, cope and fucking seethe, your whole fucking cancer movement comes from reddit, and i even told you miggers back then when you made both halfpol and fullpol unusable that you are being psyoped by the biggest kike loving freak on earth, yet here we are today the fucking reddit movement calling others redditors, KILL YOURSELF
>>532700296America lost another war lol, I bet Israel is fuming.
as a brother in the navy, I can confirm we used it as it's the base for the 7th fleet. You dumb migger cuck.
>>532704428>And we are a net exporter so it doesn’t matter. It’s a small price to pay to fuck over the global economy for everyone else lolyes because having americans pay higher gas prices really helps us because?
>>532706998>shit hole country has an opinion Lmao go drink water filled with parasites
>>532707083>Incapable of understanding scale
>>532702496>The gas prices are already starting to fall lol.I think you are subhuman nigger retard. If it goes from 150 to 100, when it was orginally 40, that isn't "going down" significantly. It will flux up and down you dumb monkey. Read a book you fucking illiterate nigger faggot.
>>532700296>stupid nigger doesn't understand global commoditiesRight up there with per capita you fucking mongoloid
>>532700296Tolls not being enforced
>>532700296Now I won't say you're lying, but you are most definitely wrong
>>532707125I think your a gigantic ass faggot who should die. I don't like paying 100 dollars a week on gas. I am already getting fucked with taxes and now you Republikikes want me to pay even more. I want you all to hang.
>>532704495Gas is 5$ nigger
>>532701185Japan does import a good amount from the gulf of Hormuz, as do Euros I believe. All that middle eastern oil goes somewhere and the economy here gets fucked if it can't get out.US doesn't get hit as hard because they have their own sources in Texas and Alaska and such. Which is probably a big reason they were willing to start the war in the first place.
>>532700491Bibi is my fucking hero, shut the fuck up, Israel is the greatest nation . you fucking idiot
>>532701588>Sounds like a problem for globalism, not Americaat a discount? stfu fucking shill
>>532700296>2 million a shipThe ships carry billions of dollars muttbro.You lost again, it happens. It’s okay.>>532707090You have millions of people living on the street.
((( >>532707312 )))OYYYY VEYYYYY
What a nothingburger. He wasted all that precious ammo just to give up? Kill the fucking clerics you oaf!
>>532700296Do magatards realize that any increase in oil/gas price in any part of the world, even if US doesn't source energy from there, will have impact on them too? Oil/Gas is a globally traded commodity, if gulf energy price increases, buyers will start looking for other sources like US, more countries buying energy from US = higher domestic prices. Oil/Gas prices are stabilizing globally.
>>532706967kek you got caught, recycle your IP
>>532700296Happy to have Americans feel like it's a victory since it ends the war, even if on Iran's terms, and shows the world especially China the limits of American hegemony and power projection. Trump is the most aggressive president China will face and even he folded against an adversary like Iran.
>>532707421>Do magatards realize that any increase in oil/gas price in any part of the world, even if US doesn't source energy from thereThey absolutely do not understand how commodity markets work. They think because they are a large oil producer, this means lower prices for them, when it absolutely does not. The oil industry is not nationalized, the private US oil companies will charge as much as possible. They have no loyalty to Americans and will not give them any discount.
>>532707421>>532707421we already are seeing massive increases ijn cost of living. these magatards are just richer and wealthier and are isolated from 99% of the population.
>>532707090Can't deny it maggot? lol
>>532707421Dyou just learn this yourself recently, And had to share huh ?
>>532707480caught with what Shlomo
>>532704651>trying to explain serious geopolitics/international trade to trump enjoyers
>>532707670>withESL nigger
>>532707548Most people don't understand this to be fair. They also think that grovery stores are going to lower their prices willingly after 2022
>>532706967Based
>>532706673Well, I have all the time to shitpost I want. I really don't care.>>532706791>You’re using reddit mainstream media jargonBecause these are terms to name of what's happening. I won't be making up some terms to speak to retards like yourself because it doesn't make sense.>belt and road project in south americaIt literally didn't exist. It's another made up victory.>Now it seems that china has to pay full price for oil in the Middle East instead of their cheap sanctioned deal.Removing sanctions on China's vassal is suddenly a win for US? Are you fucking serious?Nigger, US just opened China gates to Middle East.>cause all the headlines say soThat's the problem: you're retarded contrarian.
>>532707825If you're posting on a politics board, you should perhaps know more than the average person about politics? MAGA on this board seem to know less than the average person, not more
>>532707844china now has to pay a US toll on 50% of its oil, how exactly is that a win?
>>532701988The most chad methods of transportation are walking, sneaking on pubic transport without paying, and hitching rides with people
>>532707896There will be no US toll imposed, that's purely Trump trying to save face. The US navy refused to even get near Hormuz because it was too dangerous owing to Iran's drones, how would you imagine they would impose a toll? The only toll imposed will be Iran and Oman's toll. Trump will completely forget about this in a week and go and harass Cuba or Greenland again
>accuses greek flag of being esl what did he mean by this?
>>532707896Nothing in the deal says US controls the tolls. It'd be Iran's control and they have a deal with China.
>>532707859I mean, probably. Though it's not like I feel like I know more about politics than the average person
>>532707896Where did you get this US toll from?Plan is that toll will be shared between Iran and Oman and it will be paid in Chinese yuan. China will pay it's vassal states with it's own printed paper.
>>532707967>refusedthis premature past tense strategy hasn't worked out well so far for irannies>>532707974I'm just telling you the newstrump mentioned it today after the ceasefire, yesterday, and in 1988we're not part of any treaty that prevents itgives us a lot of leverage over china too
>>532708083see >>532708112>Plan is that toll will be shared between Iran and Oman and it will be paid in Chinese yuanyou know that's just something you heard reposted from telegram right?you can't take something as truth just because it's posted over 9000 times
>>532708083Trump has been pretending he has the power to charge a toll on Hormuz https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/4/6/trump-says-us-could-charge-for-strait-of-hormuz-passage-amid-iran-war>>532708112You are gullible if you think US even has the power to charge a toll. Notice how zero US ships went through the strait during this war? They're terrified of Iran's drones and cannot defend against them. You don't believe the aircraft carrier actually had a laundry fire do you? It was hit by drones
>>532700296strait is open just not for jews or jew dogs USA. restore damage you have done and pay a fee like every one else
>>532707533>folded against an adversary like IranI guess killing their entire leadership and fucking their shit up on a daily basis while the survivors flail and spam AI slop is folding lol
>>532708112>this premature past tense strategy hasn't worked out well so far for iranniesNigger what? Your carriers were literally forced to flee.
>>532708259Their whole leadership wasn't killed, it was 4 or 5 people. The IRGC government is hundreds of people.
>>532708261you fell for that one?tell me about bibi next lol>>532708172prepare to be surprisedwe wouldn't have 30 countries signed up if it was a suicide mission
>>532708187>Hides flag to talk shit
>>532708291>it was 4 or 5 peoplehave you been living in a cave
>>532708343You don't have 30 countries signed up, you're just talking shit and repeating what you heard of Fox or from Benny Johnson or some shit. We are the US's closest ally outside Israel and we're not signed up.
>>532708291At least 40 senior commanders have been smoked by le orange man kek
>>532708395>nuh uh!oh shit, this post almost made me forget about the UK/France led coalition and subsequent developments with Bahrain's two UN resolutions.please be more careful with your powers of gaslighting in the future!lol loser
>>532708343What is there to fall for? There are images of the damage fone to your carriers. Are you saying they were friendly fire incedence that just so happened to coincide with Iranian missile strikes on your carrier group?And why did both your carriers leave if not for the fact that they were struck?
>>532708471You made the assertion you stupid fucking retard, you supply the evidence>>532708462>>532708394The only people killed that actually matter were the Ayatollah, leader of the navy, leader of intelligence and leader of the army and they were all immediately replaced by their deputies
>w-we won>that's why iran will now charge for passage and dictate peace agreements to uslolthe best part about the whole thing is that israel gets fucked over thoughthey tried to jew trump into their war but forgot that trump is even more of a slimy traitor than jews, and now the us backed off leaving iran to 1v1 with israel
>>532708557Thanks for the redpill Mr IRGC insider kek
>>532700296>>Oil prices go up 2 million dollars>>Doesn't affect me
>>532700296US sells its fuel to europe. Which makes US fuel more expensive.So Americans and Europeans pay for Iran to rebuild their infrastructure bombed by the US.
>>532708605Are you so stupid that you aren't aware this is all public information? Ayatollah was immediately replaced by his son
>>532708637>pay for Iran to rebuild their infrastructureand the money will go to chink construction companies5d chess of destroying nato, expending us missile stockpiles, giving russia a cash boost and dropping sanctions, giving iran a steady revenue flow and leverage of straits control that they can close back at any time, and investment opportunities for chink businessmaga!
>>532708512the lincoln never stopped flying sortiesI'm sorry you are so easy to fool>>532708557>you supply the evidenceit's like 30 individual letters of commitment, go look it up yourself retard>>532708557>The only people killed that actually matterimagine working your whole life to fortify one of those 13000 sites we destroyed, or burying dozens of your comrades representing a century of combined experience and expertise, then faggots online say WE DIDN'T NEED THOSE USELESS FAGGOTSlol
>>532708697That’s why I mocked you for regurgitating mainstream media trash. Yeah 40 senior commanders get eliminated at the same time and a bunch of younger deputies have to scramble to replace them. Winning! Kek
>>532708697thanks mr trudeau
>>532708163>you know that's just something you heard reposted from telegram right?Because that's the plan you fucking retard. It was prepared by Pakistan with Turkey and Egypt. It was accepted by Iran and Oman. It seems it was also accepted by US and now Trump tells bullshit to his audience like he always does.
>>532707896Iran being in charge of the strait just means they decide.They might negotiate zero fee for their allies.
>>532700296Exactly. Fuck Europeans and death to Ukraine.
>>532703211Buy a new one
>>532702049Free market, commie
>>532708871it's been a monththere was never any evidence of a tolling mechanism anonthe iranian parliament began discussing a mechanism and a bunch of telegram shills ran with it despite it still being in the iranian equivalent of a congressional committee.your absolute certainty just makes you sound like an idiotcontrast that to the president saying we will administer tolls. he said it after the ceasefire today which is important, he also said it yesterday, and apparently he's been saying it since 1988. what you heard on telegram is still not real no matter how hard you wish it were true.
>>532708794Anon, it has been spotted on sattilite sailing away.
>>532703595YesBarrel in the US is 60, 61 in the EU because transport costs money.Iran makes a toll, now a barrel from the gulf is 70 in EUUS companies, rather than sell the oil for 60 in the US, spend the 1 to transport it to the EU to sell for 70.The price in the US raises, the price in the EU lowers until they equalize
>>532708884it looks like the US will be administering the toll
>>532703580>Mutts are all talk, no actionHopefully you figured this out a long time ago and not recently. Americans are KING of "won't do shit". All those "muh gunz" and they couldn't even overturn stage a coup on Jan 6.>>532703551Oh yeah?Get ready to keep winning at the grocery store and gas pump, nigga!You remember how we have all those tariffs in place for China and other asian states? They are still in effect to lmao
>>532709145sounds like you were misled, since the lincoln never stopped flying sorties which requires a certain range.from what I've learned the last few weeks, the navy's defense umbrella is much more effective than you're giving it credit for. aspides and the new coalition wouldn't exist otherwise. you probably though thousands of european sailors were going to die during aspides. it's just wishful thinking.
>>532707185MIGGAs also don't understand her fertilizer works and that a global shortage of fertilizer will mean more expensive domestically grown food in USA and also expensive food imports.
>>532708605>>532708626>>532708637>>532708697>>532708776Bibi is my fucking hero, shut the fuck up,Israel is the greatest nation . you fucking idiot
>>532709342fuck you
>>532709302>the lincoln never stopped flying sortiesDo you at least have a source for this tgat isn't Centcom copping and seething?
>>532709475He does not.He's the kind of MIGGA who'll tell you the Lincoln was sailing up and down the Hormuzzy bombing Iranians instead of staying over 1,000nm away with its tail between its legs scared of getting drone'd
>>532709342I'm just happy that we produce most of our internally used fertilizers. It's still going to suck major dick when that shortage hits though
>>532709475so you're aware of the source, good.it would be a hard thing to lie about. this anon even claims to have satellite data >>532709145hey wait, that's you. so you already knew that the abe lincoln never stopped flying sorties and you're just trying to trick people. you should apologize.>>532709597turns out that anon knew the abe lincoln stayed in theater and he was just lying
>>532709689Hopefully your government bans the export of ammonia/urea if it hasn't don so already.If the current piss holds (and that's a big "if" because of Israel) then we're still going to experience a prolonged back-blast in food and energy prices because so much infrastructure related to oil refining and logistics is either shut down (reactivation timeline: months) or destroyed (reactivation timeline: LMAO).>532709821You the kind of buck-broken faggot who believe it was "just a laundry fire" lmao
>>532709821Are you fucking retarded?
>>532709890>>532709909nice, you were motivated to rebut my points but could not.welcome to /pol/ newfaggots
>>532709890There is no ban on the horizon, currently we don't even have a government.
>>532710121>currently we don't even have a governmentSo no one's paying attention to Greenland?Interedsting...
>>532702117You can just fill up the entire bed of your pickup. Simple as.
>>532709128>he said it after the ceasefire today which is importantHe said US has concept and it could. There hard truth: it won't. Trumps says a lot and then backs down when no one notices. He's been known for that.Iran just won this conflict. US and Israel owns it's reparations. Lifting sanction is part of that.>there was never any evidence of a tolling mechanism anonBut some ships were let pass and others were shot. You think it was random? Whenever it were political gains, favors or money - there was a toll.
>>532710172God it would be funny if we have reelections and he decides to attack on election night
>>532700296Juden
>>532700539so you got cucked by something that doesn't even affect you?
>>532700296But the USA imports products from the countries that get the oil and gas from Iran so the price they will pay will be higher.
>>532700296You spend billions of dollars, lost 20 american lives and gas is still up like 20% in your country. And what did you gain? You replaced one sandnigger with another, iran is still in control of the strait and you gained nothing. Absolutely 0. For billions of dollars of military spending and your own people.
>>532700296https://youtu.be/_k200wTsETA
>>532710421America made NEGATIVE gains>Iran now charging money for the Hormuzzy>Iran charging in Yen/BTC, thus choking off the petrodollar>global shortages of fertilizer mean that food all around the world (including in USA) will get more expensive
>>532710261see, that's how you make a reasonable post, shills take note.>He said US has concept and it could. There hard truth: it won't. Trumps says a lot and then backs down when no one notices. He's been known for that.if it was that hard, why didn't US and EU operations against yemen lead to thousands of sailor deaths? don't say standoff munitions and staying 1000 mi away because that's not true.if it was impossible to navigate the persian gulf, there wouldn't be 30 nations planning to patrol the persian gulf. everyone is excited to join the world's biggest defensive umbrella and redeem themselves to the GCC after all their cowardly "not our war" talk.>US and Israel owns it's reparationsif that's what aragchi says on friday then the ceasefire will be temporary>You think it was random?I think it was their friends, then a (now confirmed) gesture of control and good will for america and pakistan.china still has like 30 stuck ships stuck in the gulf. it's nonsense. iran is a country, they set up new tolling mechanism at the speed of a country, with parliamentary committees and executive review. it takes a while. there would be more leaks and intentional publication and none of it surfaced since this rumor started. I will believe it when I have reason to. in the meantime, the US has asserted that it is moving assets into the gulf and intends to administer the toll. we'll see where that goes. I think we will gather universal condemnations and use that to tell oman and iran to calm their titties. I also think the ceasefire will end in two weeks and we will resume bombing.
>>532710622old news, america is charging the toll now
>>532700296Mostly shitskin nations and China. It's basically a solidarity tax for thirdies.
>>532707766Allow me to educate you on your own language, in order to "catch" someone it is necessary to have a statement of proof, ergo, you'd need to catch someone WITH something. Now you are implying that something in my post leans towards that, which i assign to your inability to read, and even though i do happen to be an ESL my understanding of the English language is superior to yours.
>>532700542Depends on how funny it is.
>>532700296The price of oil is set by the global market. If there are added tariffs on the Strait, it affects the price of oil globally. So it affects everyone who buys oil.
>>532711083>it is necessary to have a statement of proofI was convinced by your poor gaslighting which you've tried two more times since, it reeks of a certain off-site origin.you needed this spoon-fed to you because you're a newfag. the phrase "kek you got caught, recycle your IP" contained all this information in a much more condensed form apparent to anyone who's fulfilled their two year lurking obligation.there's no enforcement, but you're going to get caught again and again until you stop acting like a newfag. even this free lecture won't accelerate the process because you're trained to deny facts when presented this way by your experiences on that other site. so I actually made things harder for you, sorry. lurk for three years and try again, or don't.
>>532710883>if it was that hard, why didn't US and EU operations against yemen lead to thousands of sailor deaths?I literally have no idea what you mean. US taking share of tolling Hormuz isn't hard?>then the ceasefire will be temporaryIsrael will break it. I think it's breaking it as we speak.However point is if ceasefire between Iran and US will be respected by both sides, because even if Iran had many direct conflicts with Israel, it was US attack that started this entire clusterfuck with Hormuz blockade, attacking Arabian countries etc.From what I've heard plan is that all sanctions on Iran are lifted by US which de facto means respecting Iran's rights for reperations because together with Iranian toll on Hormuz it'll pump Iran with lots of money that otherwise wouldn't happen.>good willThat's literally how political favors are called. I world of geostrategy it's a form of currency.I don't know if there were any money transfers made because of Hormuz, but from what it seems, it's pretty much settled that this is what will be officially happenning from now on. Trump jumped on that subject to save his face, but by doing this he gave his consent for tolling Hormuz. Because strait is between Iran and Oman these countries are true benefactors.
>>532712023>true benefactors.Beneficients. English is hard.
>>532712023>I literally have no idea what you meanthe explains a lot>US taking share of tolling Hormuz isn't hard?no, not based on past experience like the US and EU operations against yemen>From what I've heard plan is that [items from iran's 10 point list]I don't think we're accepting any of those points
>>532700296just when you thought trump can't shit the bed any harder, he went and shit the bed even harder>have to pay poll to get oil boats out of middle east>need to let iran build their nukes>need to pay and rebuild ALL the damages caused in iranALL THIS just to cover the fact that he fucked his daughter and fathered his own grand children and that he sucked clinton's dick on the island
>>532712290>no, not based on past experience like the US and EU operations against yemenSo we're in agreement that US had no other way of unplugging Hormuz, but through diplomacy with Iran?This opens path for your realization that Iran has upper ground and can dictate terms from now on. Otherwise it can destroy economy of entire region, while US can't do shit against country with already destroyed economy and mountainous terrain that is size of 1/3 of entire Europe populated by over 90 million people.So yes. I think sanctions will be lifted, while Trump will act as new Iranian leaders are much better than previous Iranian leaders that were killed. It's great, beautiful victory for US. Of course it is.
>>532712925>So we're in agreement that US had no other way of unplugging Hormuz, but through diplomacy with Iran?no, I said the opposite of thatevidently you're illiterate, and it's no wonder you've come to such ridiculous conclusions
>>532700296All the nations that manufacture 99% of what you use every day, nigger. Because you manufacture fuck all, except for overpriced bombs. You lost to fucking IRAN. Keggedy-Kiggidy-kekaroooOOoOooo
BUT MARK LEVIN IS UPSET https://youtu.be/DfctZmC_5PA
>>532700296https://youtu.be/kzcJlbw4OXE
oh so you're saying Trump had a meltdown and threatened genocide for something he doesn't even use. Hmm... Ok.... Sure thing, copey...
>>532702281>we restart domestic manufacturingLol. You still think that's happening? It's amazing how you dumb niggers fall for this shit. I bet you think crooked Hilary is about to go to jail too.
>>532713157>no, I said the opposite of thatHouthis in Yemen were calmed down by Iran. Saudis, US and some of these European countries did nothing with their military actions.I thought it's obvious.
>>532709400Am yisrael chazirimAm yisrael met.RoflOink oink kike.
>>532713371I do still think it’s happening as a massive factory opened 20 minutes near my neighborhood with tons of jobs hiring. It’s going on all over the country.
>>532713423you're being obtuse.europe's sorry excuse for a navy fought yemen and didn't lose thousands of sailors.america will have no problem in the gulf based on that alone.cope seethe dilate and kill yourself, timewasting retard
There was average daily traffic through the strait of about 140 ships prewar. That's 280 million daily, just over 100 billion annually. This 39 day adventure cost about 20 billion dollars.Allowing the Iranians to toll like this is literally forcing a coalition to form to fuck up Iran because it's 5 times cheaper to fight rather then to collectively pay. This is absolutely bait.
>>532713715>fought yemenWhat that even means? Yemen is a failed state. It doesn't have navy to fight with. Even if anyone goes there and takes control over some cities - it won't do anything. Just like US sending bombs on some mountain savages didn't do anything. Only way of not fucking up trade route nearby is by not pissing off houtis.Hormuz is different because instead of Yemen it's Iran - state with actual political goals. Iran proved it controls the Gulf. US is pulling out because of this simple fact.
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>>532707712shut it furfat
>>532707766sei froh dass du migger irgendetwas verstehst
>>532700296based
>>532700296based Donald is honorary Iranian now
>>532714492>failed states' missiles are fundamentally different than nearly failed states' missilesseems like you're going to keep making bad predictions if you strain yourself this hard just to ignore prior experience>>532714602I don't think you're going to help>>532715261leck mich am arse
>>532700296What toll?
>>532715935something like 2 million per ship, plus tip
>>532715678>ignore prior experienceThis is exactly what Trump did with Iran and that's exactly why US lost another conflict.US failed to control Iran's proxy (Yemen), but somehow Trump thought it's capable of taking control over big daddy itself. Absolutely retarded in theory proved to be absolutely retarded idea in practice.
>>532704220>>532705684Feel free to check my numbers.Google says the average price per liter in France is ~2.60.$4/gallon = 0.90 EUR/Liter.We'll pretend there's no tax on gas where I live.So what you're trying to convince me of is that gas is nearly 3x more expensive in your country due to taxes alone?
>>532716142your misinformed political shittake isn't even on topicmodern umbrella defenses are more effective than you seem to believe, and now it is clear how you came to be so misinformed>anon I disagree with you!there I did you reply for you, you're welcome
>>532713682Uh-huh. Meanwhile two others closed.
>>532700539We get it you love Jew dick.
