U.S.A. War Losses>13 dead (6 due to a mid-air collision)>20 aircraft (10 due to friendly fire/collision)>0 warships>0 ground assets>1 THAAD radarIranian War Losses>Thousands of soldiers/sailors>Almost entire airforce>Literally the entire navy>Thousounds of air defense assets>Hundreds of bunkers and facilities>More than fifty commanders and leadersU.S.A. War Goals>Regime Change in Iran: Partial Success, work in progress?>Prevent Iran from building a nuke: Complete Success>Prevent Iran from stockpiling too a critical mass of ballistic missiles Complete Success>Prevent Iran from funding terrorist proxies elsewhere: Arguably Complete SuccessIranian War Goals>Make America/Israel bleed in a long assymetrical war: FAILED>Make the world bleed by closing the straight of hormuz: Was succeeding, kinda... but now FAILED>Not get completely blown the fuck out: FAILED
keep the miga muttcope coming its hilarious
>>532727387We have achieved peace in the middle east by defanging the biggest belligerent. You can leave Europe and go home now, my Muslim friend. You don't have to be a refugee any longer. Praise Allah!
>>532727387shut up, nigger
>>532727185>Strait is open, free, and facilitates world trade >Now have to deal with Iranians charging tolls>Alienate all of your allies>To stop a nuke that is "two weeks away" and has been "two weeks away" since the 90sNo, this was definitely a horrendous loss for the US military. This isn't even counting all of the missiles and interceptors we're extremely low on. There was no reason to do this. There was no immediate threat. Trump got tricked by Israel because he is a dumb goy and now you're bragging that you killed a bunch of people for no reason.
>>532727602Sounds like we made them flee, mister gunmen, please tell me what you did with the somalis?
>>532727757Killing a bunch of niggers is always a good cause.
>>532727185yeah we won
>>532727185Iranian War Losses>Thousands of soldiers/sailors>Almost entire airforce>Literally the entire navy>Thousounds of air defense assets>Hundreds of bunkers and facilities>More than fifty commanders and leadersIsrael War losses> 1 jew had his silly hat blown off.Grok, which side had the most devastating losses?
>>532727602Go celebrate black history month during the summer of love faggot. American culture is centered around nigger and kike worship
>>532727185USA spent 14 years worth of tomahawks in little more than a momth
>>532727185Do you want fries with your laurels?
>>532727757>Strait is open, free, and facilitates world trade>Now have to deal with Iranians charging tollsLets be extremely generous and assume the fake twitter post your referencing is actually true. It still doesnt affect American shipping at all, since we don't get oil from the Persian gulf anymore anyways. Not My Problem. >Alienate all of your alliesActually that was Iran when they chimped out and bombed neutral countries all around them. If you're referring to Europe/NATO, they were already whiny little bitches who hated Trump before this war started.>To stop a nuke that is "two weeks away" and has been "two weeks away" since the 90sOnly because we kept setting them back. 60% enriched uranium is 60% enriched uranium.>No, this was definitely a horrendous loss for the US military.Just because it was a war you think was "pointless" doesn't make it a "loss", look at the OP and try to argue that is a "loss". You have to be drowning in copium to make that argument.
>>532727185Iranians are sand jeets. When you understand that you'll understand why they're working so hard to protect their izzat
In six weeks of Trump's "special 24-hour op" to overthrow Iran:>Allowed Israel to cuck him in to a war (per Rubio)>Uses it as a convenient way to avoid his pedophilia in the Epstein files>15 *confirmed* dead Americans, over 290 wounded>Unknown numbers of Americans captured>Trump says dead Americans "Is the way it is" and "there will be more">US commander tells troops Trump was 'chosen by Jesus to unleash Iran Armageddon'>Every US base in the Middle East destroyed by Iran's airstrikes>Murdered over 150 Iranian schoolgirls>US reaper drones destroyed>US THAAD missiles exhausted>Recession>Allows transgendering children>Begs NATO to get involved>Strait of Hormuz closed>US gas prices skyrocketing>US refuelling plane destroyed, more casualties>Trump confirms the war is for gays "We support gays, but they throw gays off the buildings. We have to wipe out the evil">US F-35 destroyed>Deportations under Trump average 900 a day (300,000 a year), Obama deported 3.2 million>US national debt doubles under Trump, $39 trillion>Joe Kent resigns, refuses to be involved in an Israeli war>Trump cucks out and lifts sanctions on Iran oil>At least 16 US military aircraft destroyed, per Bloomberg>US troop morale rock bottom: "We do not want to die for Israel", per Huffpost>Dementia Trump pretending he's negotiating with Iran>Blatant evidence of Trump insider trading>US Patriot missiles destroy 3 US F-15s, friendly fire>US F-18 destroyed>Trump approval rating lowest of any president ever>Stock market loses over $1 trillion>Trump pulling back ICE agents massively>US F-15 destroyed>US Blackhawk destroyed>2 US A-10s destroyed>Highest number of USAF aircraft shot down within 24 hours since Vietnam>2 US F-16s destroyed>6 US helicopters destroyed>US Army Chief of Staff resigns, says: "A madman is about to lead the great US military to ruin.">Trump writes "praise be to Allah" on Easter Sunday>Trump chickens out again>Iran won>Two more weeks, goyim!
>>532727185If this was actually a win for zog, then Israelis wouldn’t be seething about it
>>532728380Hey look the 3rd world brown trash is whining about another nation's president. What a fucking shock.
Why did you completely lie about your goals section?
>>532728499Third world chads won and firsticucks lost
>>532728271>Actually that was Iran when they chimped out and bombed neutral countries all around them. >neutralYou mean the US allies hosting US equipment and troops?
>>532727185>After 6 weeks, our 24-hour Special Military Interaction is a resounding success
>>532728671Yay! Your countries are the best. There's absolutely no reason to leave them to go to the loser first world countries.
>>532728380Cool Copypasta. but here in America, there's no recession, gas prices are still lower than they were under Biden, and nobody cares about 15 dead americans when we had tens of thousands of deaths in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. And Trump said it would be a 4-6 week war at the very start. With no boots on the ground. But keep on coping.
>>532728271The cost of the war was goodwill across the world, critical munitions that we desperately need and were low on, and destabilizing the region AND global trade fruther.>le i don't care about le straitAre you a fucking retarded nigger? How black are you? You do understand our economy still relies on other nations that DO rely on the strait, right? Gas prices in the US went UP because of this too. How stupid are you?
US also lost: Any positive standing on the world stage, Europe accelerated their move away from us and hates us more than ever, proven to be paper tiger evacuated every base in the Middle East most of them will never be occupied again, Taiwan already changing their tone on China unification and opening the door to talks with China because they now know US is a paper tiger, France just sold all their gold in the US…probably much more you have no idea the depth of damage this war caused the United States global reputation and standing. Our super power status is now pretty much gone, we are a joke and no one wants anything to do with us. We are now basically a semi-pariah state, the true extent of the damage remains to be seen but attacking Iran was such a strategic mistake it’s almost hard to fathom why trump would make such a major error. It’s insane.
>>532728853They were saying it would be a 4-6 week op from the very start you lying disingenuous leaf. And guess what, a 6 week war with no boots on the ground is an outstanding military success. Cope, cry and seethe.
>>532728671Look at the brownoid cope here.Do elucide us as per your "win" from your shitty brown country.
>>532727387Explain how its wrong.
>>532728938>ccp talking pointsHey an actual 50 center.
>>532728938He got tricked by Bibi. He personally went to the white house months ago and did a presentation to Trump and his closest advisors. Trump bought it hook line and sinker. Mostly the thing he was tricked by was that there would be an uprising as soon as the US started bombing them. That didn't happen. The fractured Iranian government was somehow able to at least hold it together enough to launch missiles at every US base they could + Israel, and them being defiant weeks later was not in the cards.
>>532728888>here in America, there's no recession, gas prices are still lower than they were under BidenBe patient, the recession just began.
>>532728088Israel.Because a single lock of Jewish hair is worth more than the lives of a thousand goyim
>>532728857>>532729000Third world chads just buckbroke westoid cucksWe've just subdued the purported "superpower" of the world
>>532728483it was a total victory for Americans and Iran.I don't know why Israel thinks they matter more than we do. We did all the fightingwhy should this go any other way?you are only entitled to the work of your own hands.arbeit macht frei
>>532727185May I see it?
>>532728888>Over 7,000 U.S. service members died in the post-9/11 wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Why lie unless kike? Checked. inb4>suicideBe quiet
>>532728851You say that like they are doing us a favor.Those bases are there to defend them and subsidize their economy at American taxpayer expense
>>532727387he's right tho, you're too brown to notice it
>>532728938Sucking Jew cock will do that to you.
>>532727185>>20 aircraft (10 due to friendly fire/collision)You were warned about normalizing trannies.
>>532729109Just 2 more weeks
>>532729149What happened to irans leadership and naval assets?You call losing your airforce navy and president a win?Not a surprise since a mezitso like you has pretty low iq.
>>532727185Holy cope
>>532728904>The cost of the war was goodwill across the worldKek faggot, people who hated trump still hate him, and people who liked him still like him. I think the world might blame Iran more for closing the strait and blowing up random cargo ships.> critical munitions that we desperately need and were low onMunitions that were produced specifically for a war with Iran? Deployed to the middle east specifically for Iran? Yeah, we used them. On Iran. And we still have plenty enough to deter China from Taiwan, which is literally the only other place in the world we might need them.>and destabilizing the region AND global trade fruther.Iran's been destabilizing the region for 5 decades and everybody knew it. Now the band-aid is ripped off. No need to thank us. You seem extremely upset and are parroting corporate media talking points, but the countries of the world are secretly relieved somebody finally dealt with The Iran Question, and they can't spend another 5 decades holding the strait of hormuz hostage.
>>532727185>iran war goalsYou realize that iran was the one who got attacked?>USrael war goals>bomb the guys you want to do a regime change with on the first dayCheck>make your allies close their airspace for youCheck>lose several oversea basesCheck>Turn half of the world against youCheck>bring world economy downCheck>Create a image of your president that he lost his mind to the point that his own former supporters wants his impeachmentCheck>make your allies in the middle east realize that the USA is not willing to protect themCheck
>>532729341You sound like a mossad agent, bro.
>>532729074Everything I said is true, I’m a white American im not just gonna stick my head in the sand and regurgitate like Zionist propaganda like you retarded miggers. Miggers are so high on Jew cum they can’t even see reality it’s sad, but also horrifying I have to share a country with you dumb fucks.
>>532729312Pay the Jizya Tax firstie and shut the fuck up
>>532729341>and people who liked him still like himThis is not true at all, trump has lost so much support
>lets tallyYou are on a dog leash held by the small state of israel and your last 7 decades of war have been (You) dying for (((their))) interests.All americans are jews until proven goy.Que picrel calling me brown.
>>532727185It’s amazing how far ahead of the rest of the world we are.
what did the USA get out of this war because it looks the same as before just with Iran controlling the strait of Hormuz now
>>532727532>We have achieved peace in the middle east by defanging the biggest belligerentDid the USA sneak attack Israel or what are you talking about?
>>532729176>I don't know why Israel thinks they matter more than we do.Because they do. America is Israel’s golem. It is completely submissive to it.
>>532729259Theyre for staging attack of jewish aggressiveness and protect the petrodollar. And to drain our taxes, you are right about that.
>>532727185The Iranian regime goal was to survive and maintain control long enough for their agents in the west to tilt public opinion in America against the war. They were successful in this.Their next goal is to outlast trumps presidency because the subsequent democrat will be a toothless pushover like Obama was.It's pretty clear the reps will lose both congress and Senate so it's pretty much over.They used our strength against us and won. By 2028 they will have nukes and by 2030 china will take Taiwan.
>>532727387i can't wait for Russia to invade Europe after we pull out and some ivan looking kikespawn fucks your grandmother and his friend igor makes you watch.
>>532727185pride
>>532728175> USA spent 14 years worth of tomahawks in little more than a monthMy Raytheon stock is mooning!
>>532729680the jews outjewed themselves this time
Cope however you like, but the world knows this was no win. We are glad it is over because we need gas to drive to work.Trump talked about Obama's bad deals ... lol. The Straight now has a toll that will earn Iran $300M per day. Iran is no longer sanctioned so they can pump oil to whomever they like. Iran bombed Israel at will and could not be stopped. Mostly Iran was shown to control the worldwide economy whenever they like. They were a nothing nation and now are a global power that stood up to the war machine and won. Sure the US carpet bombed the surface shit, but didn't destroy anything of value.
>>532729830Is this your cope mechanism?
>>532729680Maybe that would be valid if the war was a boots-on-le-ground years long affair. but it's already over. People will move on to the next orange man bad talking point and this will all be forgotten. The war was unpopular because people assumed it would keep escalating into something like the Iraq/Afghanistan war. But it didn't.
>>532728888My gas is at 3.74, it was at 2.40ish before the war started, fuck you, you dont speak for me, youre the one coping
>>532729682you are weak and gay
>>532727185> Cope threadSeed and feed edition.
>>532729784The people in charge of the war failed to grasp the reality of who they were fighting, a literal death cult. Iran is ready to lose 40 million people if need be, they attach no value to human life unlike us westoids, which is why the only way to defeat them was economical, something trump and bibi were too afraid to do due to the Iranian retaliation threat against American allies in the gulf.
>>532727185>U.S.A. War Losses>13 dead (6 due to a mid-air collision)>20 aircraft (10 due to friendly fire/collision)>0 warships>0 ground assets>1 THAAD radarKek, miggers really are desperate.
>>532729830When it comes out that ships can transit the strait toll-free, what will you shift your copium to after that? Your entire post is based on a twitter fantasy that Iran will charge a toll forever after. spoiler alert, they won't.
>>532727185how many gorillians of dollars do you think the US has spent on this? all Iran needs to do is force the US to default and they win
>>532729830>We are glad it is over because we need gas to drive to work.Pool is closed again already, Israel fucked it up.
>>532729680Ah yes, the "pushovers" are the ones that don't act as Pissrael's personal fleshlight like Zion Don. Fucking rat
>>532729953mine was 3.10 before the war and now its 3.65. Sounds like a skill issue. Gas prices have always been such a nothingburger anyways, it's like 3% of your monthly budget you whining faggot.
>>532729149Yes, great job. You number one now. And if you're number one why move to number ten?
>>532730008You fucking kike
>>532730147>>532730312No input besides mindless seething. Pathetic
>>532727387>>532728220You cried Genocide yesterday.Today you cry TACO.You obviously fuck goats and should hang yourself.
>>532727185You achieved nothing. You ran a somewhat effective cover for Israel stealing Lebanese land again, but then it got too hot and you backed the fuck off.You're the biggest fucking bitches in the whole world right now and every single person knows who owns your asses.
>>532727185You're ignoring GCC economic infrastructure and toll rights. Anyway, I doubt this ceasefire is going to hold.
>>532730373Rat
>>532729680>By 2028 they will have nukesYou can thank your corrupt war-maniac Bibi for this. After 30+ years he's finally achieved his dream about Iran with nukes.
>>532730055I'm sorry my russian friend, but AI generated videos don't count as actual losses.
>>532730558>this is your brain on MIGA-copeMany such cases.
>>532730669>Here are my proofs that America lost way more assets than they claim:
>>532730754Fuck off faggot
>>532730548>your corrupt war-maniac>Flag
>>532729680>By 2028 they will have nukesGood, I hope they glass your rat nest of a state when your dumbass government inevitably tries to pull stupid shit again.
>>53272718513 Americans are worth more than 13 million dune coons.
>>532731061Surely they will stop with us and not attack everyone else because their Mehdi will only return when the world is in chaos.
>>532730966>webm: Iranians standing over 2 c130s and 2 little bird helicopters that we blew up ourselves when they got stuck.Yes, those were counted as part of the 20 aircraft lost in the OP. Any other videos Ivan? Oh, you're just seething? okay.
>>532730754Keep huffing Trump's farts ignorant migger. And once he's out of office, or even before that, dems will disclose all that shit in full just to drown him and republicucks. It will be a festival of MIGA-cope.
u mad bro ?
>>532727185America'a biggest military success in this war was sinking an unarmed iranian destroyer off the coast of India. That's the full might of the american empire for you.
>>532731296>proofs provided: 0>cope provided: unmatched>seethe provided: unmatched I know it's embarrassing, but even if the official numbers of losses were a complete lie, and it was actually 3 or 5 times the losses, it's still a complete one-sided bodyslam compared to what Iran lost. Sorry you can't use your air force in ukraine the same way Ivan.
>>532727185oh great another mutt cope thread. get ready /pol it will be endless mutt cope threads for the next few weeks as they try to come to terms with losing to, and being owned by, iran. sigh
>>532731288>boomer seethium
>>532731058Yeah, your corrupt war-maniac Bibi, who's basically already surpassed Hitler in the number of crimes, and now aiming to surpass him in the number of victims, like a good demonic satanist he are.
>>532731670>LOOK AT THESE NINE AIRCRAFT THAT BLEW UP>YOU LOST THE WAR! Somebody's definitely seething. LMAO
>>532731259>their Mehdi will only return when the world is in chaos.lol/lmao. pot calling the kettle black. good job losing the war and destroying the petrodollar. maybe the jew reserve in argentina will work out better than british god camp did
>>532731259I hope you do, it'll be the death knell of all kikes on the planet. You and your entire bloodline will be hunted down harder than Mossad did the Nazis, you'll be wiped off the face of the Earth, all at the cost of cities your people ruined anyway.Fuck you, do the world a favor and hang yourself.
the entire world now knows the iron dome is fake. golden dome sales cancelled
>>532727602>retarded mutt posts from his collection of anti-white images>forgets the shitstorm of somalians in minnesotaactually pathetic
>>532730068The Straight averages 150 boats per day at $2M a pop. Why would they ever stop that? They have proven that they can stop the traffic at will and nobody can open it up. I would actually expect them to fortify their position.
>>532731562Come more migger.
>>532727185>>13 dead (6 due to a mid-air collision)So true. Also 6 million jews were gassed by hitler. Also the covid vaccine is safe and effective.
>>532727532The biggest belligerent in the ME is critically low on interceptor missiles, but in no meaningful way deranged.
>>532732390*defanged
>>532730139They had to fuck it up because they lost on every facet of the operation. The Iron dome is an Iron spaghetti strainer that Iran can penetrate whenever they want. They are down to 1/5th the interceptors that they started the war with. Those interceptors literally can't be made without China allowing rare earth metal purchases of which they control 90%. You are talking 2.5 years to restock.
>>532732172Because the $2M toll was a war-time toll. When the war ends, it will be free to transit once again. Don't believe what you read on twitter. >Why would they ever stopI think Iran would rather have no sanctions on their own country than even more sanctions and a tollbooth.
>>532727185war is different post ww2 theres no real winning because technically the US isnt at war with the whole country because thats illegal
>>532727185>This somehow has made my life better, that my government has destroyed another countryI just don't feel like this. I've seen enough wars now that I know the effects on my country will be all negative and fully expect another migrant crisis during the next President's term because of this war.
>>532727185>>Regime Change in Iran: Partial Success, work in progress?We actually strengthened the regime, retard.>>Prevent Iran from building a nuke: Complete SuccessIran never wanted a nuke. They're no further from having a nuke today then they were before the war>>Prevent Iran from stockpiling too a critical mass of ballistic missiles Complete SuccessWe supposedly destroyed a third of their missiles out of 3,500. They were building 100 a month. It'll be less than a year before they get back where they were.>>Prevent Iran from funding terrorist proxies elsewhere: Arguably Complete SuccessThey actually made money on the war because oil prices doubled. And if we remove sanctions, they'll have even more money. They're not going to stop funding Hezbollah or the Houthis. They'll have even more money to support them even more.>Iranian War Goals>>Make America/Israel bleed in a long assymetrical war: FAILEDAmerica probably spent 10x more money on this war than Iran. America/Israel were so drained on interceptors they had to bring assets from east asia, stopped all shipments to Ukraine, and put a massive delay on new shipments until our stocks can be replenished.>>Make the world bleed by closing the straight of hormuz: Was succeeding, kinda... but now FAILEDThey completely succeeded in establishing a deterrent by showing they could shut down the Strait of Hormuz and there was nothing America could do to stop them.>>Not get completely blown the fuck out: FAILEDIt cost America more to blow up Iran's shit than it cost Iran to build it. The only real tactical success happened in the first day of the war when we surprise attacked and killed an 86-year old man and a few commanders who had let their guard down because they thought America was negotiating in good faith.
>>532732846My life isn't better or worse. it's exactly the same. Nothing changed for the average american. paying 10 dollars more per tank of gas is not a meaningful change.No there won't be a migrant crisis due to the war. That was always a lie and 99% of migrants came from countries at peace anyways.
>>532732638The Straight has always been free and open unlike the Suez and Panama canals which charge a toll. I would say the Toll is staying, but we will see Ameribro.
>>532727185>Make the world bleed by closing the straight of hormuz: Was succeeding, kinda... but now FAILEDkek
>>532733025Maybe if you're a neet and don't own a car? For most Americans already struggling with high rent prices and high food costs, paying extra for gas on top of it is extremely bad. >No there won't be a migrant crisis due to the war. That was always a lie and 99% of migrants came from countries at peace anyways.Syrians flooded my neighborhood in 2015 and were given free houses and free cars. We had to move because the street became Muslim in less than a year, Obama moving these people in. I think a lot of tard Trump lovers are experiencing the short term high of sniffing his jockstrap over this war, before the reality hits home and dems use this as an excuse to pound the country up the ass with immigration.
>>532727387/thread
America strong, america win. Zero lossesAmerica #1
>>532727387FPBP
>>532729546Cope harder nigger.
>>532732994>We actually strengthened the regime, retard.I don't think losing all of your top leadership could be counted as "strengthening a regime">Iran never wanted a nuke.You need 10% enriched uranium for nuclear power. I guess they just built underground enrichment facilities and got it to 60% as a joke...?>We supposedly destroyed a third of their missiles out of 3,500. They were building 100 a month.Considering they launched thousands of them too, and we destroyed their missile production facilities and launchers? Yeah.>They actually made money on the war because oil prices doubled. And if we remove sanctions, they'll have even more money. They're not going to stop funding Hezbollah or the Houthis. They'll have even more money to support them even more.I really don't think the money they made selling oil for a month offsets the money they invested in a navy, air force, missile forces, tunnel complexes, etc that just evaporated. And what did their proxies do during the war? Absolutely fuck all. How many terrorist attacks were there on American soil or Europe? zero.>America probably spent 10x more money on this war than Iran. I don't think it costs more to bomb something than to rebuild the thing that got bombed, but that's just me.>They completely succeeded in establishing a deterrent by showing they could shut down the Strait of Hormuz and there was nothing America could do to stop them.Everybody already knew this, that's why nobody wanted to touch Iran for 50 years. If anything it was kind of pathetic, they didn't mine the strait, and ships were slipping through in the night.>It cost America more to blow up Iran's shit than it cost Iran to build itThat's straight up not true. But lets be extremely generous and say that it is, Iran doesn't have the money to spend rebuilding all that shit, and we DO have the money to buy more bombs and interceptors.
>>532727185>>532727757>>532728853>>532728888>>532729176>>532729535>>532729680Arguing about "who won" is pretty retarded because it's not over. And I don't mean because the negotiations haven't been finalized. I mean because the "root causes" haven't been resolved. Israel is Gaza'ing Lebanon as we speak.
Truth is, if you kill your enemies... you lose.
>>532727185Kike-level delusion.
>>532729993We’ve given you trillions, your peoples are incredibly ungrateful. If it weren’t for the US you would still be warring with one another.
>>532727185Ceasefires Begged>USA - 47>Iran - 0
Don't worry op they're seething.
>>532733621The biggest belligerent in MENA is Israel, and their diaspora in my country. The world was getting along just fine, and then a bunch of demented jews started plotting world war 3.
>>532733910I think being mad at Trump for reneging on his promises is a normal reaction.
>>532734037He was just dealing bro
>>532734037Trump never promised "no more wars"Trump promised "no more stupid wars" and was also promising to deal with Iran even on the campaign trail. Considering Iran got completely clapped and US losses were negligable, I'd say promises made, promises kept.Trump said this war would be 4-6 weeks and no boots on the ground. Guess what, he was right.
>>532734183He's ensured that Democrats will win everything going forward, and that MAGA is dead. He's a joke.
>>532734305cost of oil is plummeting bro we won
>>532734251Mindless revisionism. Ben Shapiro said he would never vote for Trump because of his promise to not escalate for war in the middle east. Mark Levin also hated Trump originally and supported Jeb Bush in 2016. You can try explaining all of this when Republicans lose the house, Senate, and White House.
>>532727185Unironically checks out. I asked both ChatGPT and Grok to fact check OP's text and Grok largely agreed with OP while ChatGPT called him a liar. I copy-pasted Grok's response into ChatGPT and vice versa ChatGPT ended up backpedaling and admitting it's information was truthful (picrel).
>>532734251>Trump promised "no more stupid wars" and was also promising to deal with Iran even on the campaign trail.hmmm
>>532733652>I don't think losing all of your top leadership could be counted as "strengthening a regime"That's because you're retarded. Regimes are about legitimacy. The Iranian regime was having a legitimacy crisis as a result of the economic crisis and the protests. Now it isn't. People who would have fought against the regime would now fight for the regime. Do you understand now? Retard.>You need 10% enriched uranium for nuclear power. I guess they just built underground enrichment facilities and got it to 60% as a joke...?Iran began enriching to 60% to become a threshold state after Trump pulled out of the JCPOA and pushed massive sanctions in an attempt to isolate and bankrupt the Iranian government. They were using the 60% enrichment not to build bombs, but as leverage in negotiations. Which is why they never enriched beyond that level.>Considering they launched thousands of them too, and we destroyed their missile production facilities and launchers? Yeah.The US government already admitted that Iran maintains most of its missile arsenal, and most of the production was happening underground. And whatever was destroyed can be rebuilt. Especially since Iran is now going to be flush with cash.>I really don't think the money they made selling oil for a month offsets the money they invested in a navy, air force, missile forces, tunnel complexes, etc that just evaporated.Supposedly Iran spends like $20 billion a year on their military. Only a small fraction of that is weapons procurement. Their drones cost like $20k each, and even their large missiles only cost them like a million each. Which means their 3,500 missiles was about $3.5 billion. The "tolls" on the Strait would be significantly more than their entire yearly military budget. And many times the value of all their missiles combined.There was other damage as well to their buildings, infrastructure, airplanes, small boats, trucks, etc. I really have no idea the full damage total.
>>532734543Grok in contrast.
>>532727185its settled, no arguments made so far ITT. America won
>>532734698Stop posting here lazy shill
>>532734755feel bad for burgerbros who have to deal with these gigaretards posting under their flag
>>532727185Iran has lost 6 million people. Don't you deny this holocaust!
>>532730008You are also a death cult.There are 8 billion people on earth and you would gladly kill each and every single one of them if that secure the safety of Israelis.The only difference between Israel and Iran is that Israel is ok with killing civilians for their country, while Iranian civilians are ok to be killed for their country.
>>532734805They're 1pbtid ZOG shills posting from the underground sewer synagogue in NYC lol. Thanks leaf, I wish the best for Canada too buddy
>>532735075This. Israel attacked itself on 10/7 to start all of these wars and genocides. They're as bad as the Muslim countries are, but even worse when you consider the amount of influence they have on my country.
>>532733652>I don't think it costs more to bomb something than to rebuild the thing that got bombed, but that's just me.That's because you're stupid. Guided missiles are expensive as fuck. Moving Aircraft carriers with thousands of people aboard for weeks is expensive as fuck. Operating hundreds of jets doing thousands of sorties is expensive as fuck. Even the cheapest thing we have(hellfire missile, which is what we killed Soleimani with) costs many times more than an Iranian boat. Most of what we bombed was buildings with even more expensive missiles.This math problem was also an issue for Israel. Their interceptors cost far more than the drones/missiles they were intercepting. Which is why Israel started just letting the missiles go through(except on the most sensitive of targets), because it's much cheaper to just repair the buildings.>Everybody already knew this, that's why nobody wanted to touch Iran for 50 years. If anything it was kind of pathetic, they didn't mine the strait, and ships were slipping through in the night.This is cope and you know it. The last time they tried to close the Strait we sent our Navy to escort the ships. This time Trump wouldn't even do that and begged Europe to do it for him because he knows America ships wouldn't survive.>That's straight up not true. But lets be extremely generous and say that it is, Iran doesn't have the money to spend rebuilding all that shit, and we DO have the money to buy more bombs and interceptors.Your problem is that you think this was a war between Iran and America solely. When in reality, Iran is being supported by Russia and China. Moreover, as I said before, if sanctions are lifted, Iran is not going to be having money problems.
>>532730055nigger your country took more than that in the first hour when you invaded oinkraine
>>532734612>That's because you're retarded. Regimes are about legitimacy. The Iranian regime was having a legitimacy crisis as a result of the economic crisis and the protests. Now it isn't. People who would have fought against the regime would now fight for the regime. Do you understand now? Retard.MAYBE that would be correct if there was an invasion and occupation, but there wasn't. Now the Iranian people have all of the same problems they had before the war, except now the administration just had its anus prolapsed in a one-sided stomp, and watched all their tax dollars they spent building up a military evaporate. Losing a war does not help a regime's popularity. Do YOU understand, retard? >Iran began enriching to 60% to become a threshold state after Trump pulled out of the JCPOA and pushed massive sanctions in an attempt to isolate and bankrupt the Iranian government. They were using the 60% enrichment not to build bombs, but as leverage in negotiations. Which is why they never enriched beyond that level.So basically your argument is "They never wanted the bomb, they were just pretending to build bomb for negotiation leverage?" How exactly is that any better? And BTW you're a fucking retard if you think Iran wasn't pursuing a nuclear weapon before 2016.>The US government already admitted that Iran maintains most of its missile arsenal, and most of the production was happening underground. And whatever was destroyed can be rebuilt. Especially since Iran is now going to be flush with cash.>Implying Iran will be flush with cashYou seem to be making the assumption that Iran will get to toll the strait for 2 million per ship forever. That seems very unlikely to be the final result of negotiations. Please don't believe everything you read on twitter. >Supposedly Iran spends like $20 billion a year on their military. Considering how sanctioned to shit Iran is that number is meaningless. Being forced to build missiles domestically is way more expensive.
>>532727185Wow just like Vietnam and Afghanistan, yet we didn't win there either.The negotiations are based on Iran's 10 point plan which include tolls on the strait which they never had before this "US victory"
>>532727185>>0 warshipsYou lost the Gerald Ford, the Abraham Lincoln, the Tripoli, and whatever the fuck happened to the missile destroyers?Lying about the hits doesn't mean you didn't suffer losses.>1 THAAD radarBullshit, we've seen photographs of numerous radar stations.>0 ground assetsOther than all 24 of your middle-eastern bases.I'm calling it, you're a shill, fuck your bullshit thread.Come back when you do real research, deceiver.
>>532727532>peace in the middle east by defanging the biggest belligerent>Israel still exists
>>532727185Uh oh the shills are admitting its a war now. No longer hiding his war crimes and illegal war on iran that he sidnt go through congress form congrats, another shill narrative of lying if this isnt a war so its legal just went up in flames
>>532727185>Let's compete on who makes more people die for Jews rather than who accomplishes any actual war objectives.Impressive goymaxxing.
>>532735565What would happen if we had to fight a real competitor like China? Our tranny BLM military would choke.
>>532735490>Maybe>probably >Assuming >Likely
>>532735306Most of the munitions we used on Iran were JDAMs/glide bombs. We used guided missiles for the initial strikes and strikes on air defenses. No the hellfire is not the cheapest thing we have, that would be cannon rounds, which we were strafing Iran with at the end of this war.>but MUH interceptorsThose interceptors were built specifically for this exact war with Iran. So using them against Iran is totally fine, thats what they were built for.>The last time they tried to close the Strait we sent our Navy to escort the ships. This time Trump wouldn't even do that and begged Europe to do it for him because he knows America ships wouldn't survive.Only because they were already in a death war in Iraq. Everybody on both sides knew that all it would take is 3 niggers on a speed boat with mines to close the strait. >Your problem is that you think this was a war between Iran and America solely. When in reality, Iran is being supported by Russia and China.Maybe that would be a problem if the war was prolonged enough for those shipments to actually arrive, and if Chinese air defense systems didn't get completely ganked. If sanctions are lifted, then the strait is free to transit anyways. No way they get lifted if Iran tries to tollbooth the strait.
>>532727185Number of war crimes committed by Iran: 0 Number of war crimes committed by USA: (At least) 3. Remember you killed a whole bunch of school kids just for fun, with your extreme precision and best in the world intel.
>>532727185Good job, OP. We need to spam this topic every day on /pol/. It would demoralize the brown turdies
>>532727185Keep coping magatard....the war is not over yet...it has barely started.
>>532736062>Number of war crimes committed by Iran: 0Pretty sure launching missiles and drones indiscriminately at Bahrain, UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Azerbaijan counts as a war crime more than missing one of thousands of sorties and hitting a school. By the way, putting military assets right next to schools and hospitals is also a war crime.
>>532728904>The cost of the war was goodwill across the worldThinks we give a fuck about that. We run the world, you retard. Any niggers doing business with us have few other choices as our vassal states. Go be China's slave if you don't like it. >Gas prices in the US went UP because of this too. How stupid are you?Oh no! Not a dollar more a gallon for a few weeks! And prices are already falling. You would think the global areas most affected by this (Europe, Asia) would be more concerned, but they're impotent weaklings that can't do shit but bitch online.
>>532728938We don't care. The rulers of the world don't worry about their vassal states being upset. Besides, when the time comes we'll just pull up the ladder and let the world kill each other as we are comfy cozy and safe in the impenetrable fortress of America filled with vast untouched resources. Thanks for letting us strip-mine you all for our funny money! Suckers.
>>532735490>Now the Iranian people have all of the same problems they had before the war.Not based on the deal being discussed. The lifting of sanctions alone basically resolves all of Iran's economic problems.>Losing a war does not help a regime's popularity.They didn't lose the war though, retard. All the war did was turn Iranians against America/Israel and thus legitimized the regime. Especially since the Orange Retard couldn't keep his mouth shut. He couldn't stick to the retarded narrative about freeing Iranians. He went with threats of civilizational erasure and sending them to the stone-age instead. The opposition in Iran has essentially been completely wiped out.>>532735490>"They never wanted the bomb, they were just pretending to build bomb for negotiation leverage?"They weren't building a bomb, retard. They wanted to have the ability to build a bomb if Israel attacked them. Which is why they never enriched beyond 60% for almost ten years. You know, after Trump unilaterally pulled out of the JCPOA in 2018 even though Iran was meeting all of its commitments.>You seem to be making the assumption that Iran will get to toll the strait for 2 million per ship forever. That seems very unlikely to be the final result of negotiations. Please don't believe everything you read on twitter.I don't believe this ceasefire will last a week, and America will never agree to Iran's demands. This is only to buy time and so that Trump could TACO while saving face. Israel is already massively stepping up attacks in Lebanon.>Being forced to build missiles domestically is way more expensive.Iranian labor costs nothing, retard. That's only true for the United States.
>>532736269>cope: the post bombing power stations is a war crime. you bombed a school full of little kids none of what Iran did counts as a war crime. you're just warmongeries doing the kike's bidding. legit hope you all burn in hell. You deserve another 9/11 for what you've done.
>>532727185CopeSsetheDialateUS of A lostJews lost and you can kill yourself now troon
>>532730195You are retarted faggotGas price makes everyting other go up you fuckin gay nigger
>>532736424lol, obvious muzzie posting
>>532736514>mm mm m muzzy hurrrr says the 40% white country.
>>532736424Lol you won't do shit. Cope and seethe, shitskin. We'll continue to do whatever we want and nobody's gonna fucking stop us. Dead shitskin little girls is funny, I wish we did more of that. Maybe next time ;)
>>53273656460% It went up 2% last year. At that rate we'll be nearer to 70% by the end of Trump's presidency. But you keep believing your cope, Achmed. Try not to rape today, mmmkay?
>>532727185Man all the kikes copeposting makes me so happy.
>>532736415>JCPOAan illegal treaty that was never ratified by the Senate
>>532736621I'm white and my country is whiter than yours, and I didn't sacrafice my penis to the jews unlike you. And, I don't have to do anything. Some brown person from the middle east will likely blow you up one day, then i'll point and laugh. You couldn't even beat Iran and chickened out lol. World's greatest military ... beaten by sand niggers hahaha>>532736730>reee im white sure Miguel. whatever you say lol. You won the war too , honest you did. HAHAH
Iran did not achieve its goal of deterring future US and Israeli aggression against Iran.Also, the US military would have needed tens of thousands of ground troops to open the Strait.
>>532736746Yeah why would anyone think the US destroying the Iranian military, tiers of their leaders, destroying their infrastructure, and killing thousands of their soldiers would mean victory? Iran slightly damaged one US ship! If that's not a total win in comparison...
>>532736824>insults and liesI accept your concession that you could not defeat my argument.
>>532735941>Most of the munitions we used on Iran were JDAMs/glide bombs.Even a JDAM is many times more expensive than the targets we were hitting.>Those interceptors were built specifically for this exact war with Iran. So using them against Iran is totally fine, thats what they were built for.Again, you're coping instead of listening to what I'm saying. The interceptors cost orders of magnitude more than the missiles they were intercepting. Which is why Marco Rubio said Iran was producing 100 a month to our 7 interceptors. That math doesn't work.>Maybe that would be a problem if the war was prolonged enough for those shipments to actually arriveIran was getting a satellite feed from Russia and China. Both have been and will continue to provide military aid. If anything, it will increase, and the next time they'll be better prepared.
>>532727185Add to the list of accomplishments that Trump got USA out NATO Article 5 obligations due to Europeans refusing to help vs Iran. This is no small feat because these European scum have been hoping to stage a false flag event in order to drag USA into a long ill fated war vs Russia. Crisis averted!
>>532727185It's Trans Winning. We identified as of winning the war you must respect what we identify as.
>>532737074>w we won the war we did >and everyone is brown and and KEEEEK
>>532727387Is OP wrong?
>>532727185U.S.A. War Goals>Regime Change in Iran: Failure, the same government is still in power including hard liners replacing the dead>Prevent Iran from building a nuke: Failure, no enriched uranium was seized>Prevent Iran from stockpiling too a critical mass of ballistic missiles partial success >Prevent Iran from funding terrorist proxies elsewhere: Arguably Complete SuccessFixed for you. Admittedly 2 out of 4 isn’t bad, but this was very much an act akin to ‘mowing the lawn’. Nothing was resolved. The biggest win is that an invasion was avoided.
>>532736757The current war was never approved by Congress. Who cares?
>>532736730Mutts are not white you niggerAmerica is max 30% real whiteRest is mutts, niggers, spicks and jews
>>532728904>Gas prices in the US went UP because of this too. How stupid are you?It’s all relative, big picture. Gas prices went up significantly MORE for Europe and Asia than they did for USA (who is a net exporter btw lol). Therefore you should count that as a net positive for USA since Europe & Asia are hurt more. All things considered, USA is ahead now vs before.>nb4 but Europe are le muh allies D’:Yeah, some allies. Get yeet’d uppity fucks.
>>532737831>Maybe if I make stuff up people will believe me! More delusional cope and seethe from a shitskin muzzie. It's all 4chan is these days.
>>532738348>Insults people, calls them names. >Can't refute an argument, calls them "lies" because he doesn't like them. >Gets it right back at him >Reeee you called me names, i accept your concession i do hahaha can't win against sand niggers>waaaah insulsts >proceeds to insult others MIGATARD on the ropes. lost to sand niggers 0 friendsbahah
>>532738704Uh huh. And where is your proof or sources for any of your lies again, sand nigger?
>>532736824Whiter than you, Achmed.>>532736424>bombed a school of little kidsBoo hoo hoo moslems using their children as human shields and crying about it again. Yawn. Never mind the fact that moslems raise their children from birth to be rapists and terrorists as soon as they’re able. Kinda hard to take you people seriously as an object of sympathy with all the peace trucks and rape gangs and stuff we’ve seen over the past years lol.
>>532739275>loses war>reee it's lies sources we losteyes anon. open them hahaha>final red line and final ultimatium number 3 you lost tranny
you forgot: almost $100 billion in one monththat's $1 trillion per year, which is unsustainablerepublicans will get btfo in november and then fuck you
>>532739338>coping mutt >w whiter than y you so you're not white? i'm white. you can't be whiter than white, so you're not white. suck some more circumcised mutt cock lol MIGAtard
>>532727185Good bait. But I know a lot of Amerifats like to cope with murdered civillians and children as "enemy combatants".
>>532739486Since you’ve converted to Pisslam you are officially NOT WHITE, sorry. Those are the rules.
>>532739664>ww w whiter than you so you're not white. funny how you appeared in defence of the mutts when they get rattled hahahu mad miguel ?
>>532739363Still not seeing any sources, Achmed. Where are the thousands of dead American soldiers? Or the scores of dead members of the US administration? Or total destruction of our military? Or destruction of our infrastructure? Because that would be proof of a country's defeat. Oh wait...
>>532739796Where's your source you didn't lose and your fat orange nigger didn't chicken out. Miguel. Oh you won because you said so did you? LMFAO Yeah orange nigger always tells the truth . Strange how you won several times.
>>532727185all true but USA still LOST, don't ask me how I don't get it either but they literally and absolutely lost
>>532739737Achmed
>>532740259>t. you will never be white.
>>532727185The Iranian regime's idea of victory was Survive, which they did. We killed 50 of their leaders and commanders? There's 1,000's more than happy to take their place. The missiles and drone factories we bombed? They'll be back and running in 2 years. And Iran now knows they have MASSIVE leverage by simply threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz
>>532739925>Where's your source you didn't lose and your fat orange nigger didn't chicken out. Because he didn't the only ones saying that are salty losers who desperately are trying to save face in crushing defeat.>Oh you won because you said so did you?No, because comparatively and objectively we did. You know: >>532739796 those are the things that happened to Iran, done to them by America. But keep coping and lying to yourself. It's sad but you are a pathetic loser shitskin anyway.
>>532740329COPE Achmed
>>532740372Lol >winning is surviving! Saddest cope yet.
>>532740418>seethingyou'll still never be white Ranjit, doesn't matter how much circumcised mutt dick you suck
>>532740457Yes, that is how they operate in the Middle East. They are not afraid of sacrifice and martyrdom
>muh navy>muh airforcenever mattered to begin withpool's closed :)
>>532740489Yep, textbook Achmedposting. I thought there might be a perhaps a 2% chance you were a Nigel or a Mr. Bean, but this last post clinches it. Desperate Achmed tactics on display. Probably used up a whole box of kleenexes today crying over dead faggots in Iran of all places. Pitiable.
>>532727185lol at that goals section you are delusional
>>532727387prove it wrong?
>>532740576No wonder your countries are such backward shitholes. They accept defeat and call it winning. What weak, demoralized losers.
