It's been more than 10 years since this thing has been shilled by right wingers yet I see nobody going anywhere. Retards who wake up at 4am and grind are still stuck in worthless jobs and live in poverty. Gym goers are still lifting weights and ignored by all the girls out there. The only people who comment on their bodies are other men. Their Instagram comment section is full of "keep going bro" and "looking big king" by other men while devoid of female attention completely.Meanwhile the economy is collapsing and improvement shills still spam shit like "just make your own coffee at home" and "you dont need to have friends, just enjoy life alone". At the same time gyms are scoring record sales, same as supplement sellers and the meat industry. The entire thing smells like a scam. Atomic "solutions" dont fix societal problems like hypergamy and wealth imbalance. Just like Chad is absorbing the majority of women, billionaires and companies are absorbing all the wealth. There are simply no resources left for the improvers
Gender Affirming Care for incels and dorks.
have sex incel
short and bald is a fucking disaster.. does not matter how much you lift or grow a scroungy beard to compensate for that pathetic balding`
>>532731043I thought I made it being 6' tall but I moved to Montana during the pandemic and more than half the people are over 6' here. I want to go back to California.
>>532730750you are right, self improvement is actually bad. since the only ways of self improvement known to mankind are consumption, it's actually better to make yourself worse
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>>5327311816 foot is the new 5'11Sorry you missed the memoCheck your spam folder
Yes I left Walmart after 25 years.
>>532730750Because the people that sell them that content make money by selling that content. I have no idea how someone can buy a course asking how to make money without realizing the course is the thing making them cash and the larping on a laptop "in meetings" for what and who is just the ad for the course?
>>532731181She does onlyfans btw.
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>>532730750yes it was. you either have papa money talent or a good looking face or will get the wage slave experience ''hell''
>>532731181had a similar experience moving to the great lakes region. women up here are built like draft horses but still act like children, its uncanny
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>>532731571>>532731469>>532731440Truth is out like the English say. Nothing you can do about it
>>532731656kill yourself
>>532730750No it isn’t. The issue is that most of the men following them are beyond help. No amount of effort would make them not short, bald, ugly, zero personality, confidence etc Many are a lost cause and their mentality will never stop them from being a loser.
>>532730750Obviously. No matter how hard you grind, if you're in a shit society, you're going to get shit. How profound.
yes. biology and early upbringing is all that matters. if you're born autistic or retarded it's over. if your parents never sent you to a good school and trained you in leadership from a young age it's over. you need a strong family, social grace and a wide professional network to really make it. otherwise you spend the rest of your life begging for scraps
>>532730750If life is so bleak and meaningless with no hope for improvement, then why not just kill yourself? HINT: It's because deep down you know you're just a demoralization faggot talking shit.
>>532731400That was your only redeeming quality, now you're literally nobody. What are you now, a car salesman, an insurance guy?You're nothing bud.
I’m 5’7. Working out will certainly get you laid more then you did before, but good luck keeping a relationship when you can’t compete. The one silver lining is we’re at the point that too a woman- a 6ft guy isn’t barely tall enough so you might as well be 5’7. Either way you still won’t be able to compete with the dude who’s taller. I have a big dick and it’s literally irrelevant when I’m 5’7.
>>532731181damn. life must be actually quite tough for tall girls. While still insecure, they tend to be universally humble in my experience. Short girls on the other hand tend to be very aggressive and prone to drama - think of a chihuahua trying to assert dominance among a pack of german shepherds. If I had to choose I'd choose a tall girl.
>>532731526Go to an inland lake and snag a boatyard owners daughter.
>>532731043women standards are a fucking disaster. They aren't even virgin, don't know how to cook. They are worthless yet you bow to their standards like a faggot.
>>532732076damn are mutt women really this cruel i thought that was just movies/entertainment shit not real life
>>532730750Its always better to improve than not, obviously. That guy opted to dwarfmax. Is that ideal? No, but what are your options when you're that short? Its still better than just being a short, doughy faggot, even if it only increases your sex odds by like 5%.
>>532732124Tall girls live life on easy mode. Everyone stumbles over themselves to give them shit. Plus womanlets and manlets respect them and defer to them. T. Manlet who has dated multiple tall girls.
>>532730750Normal men don't need self-improvement copes
>>532732076>5'7At that height, your only way to ascend is to hop on the pinkpills bro.Femboymaxxing is the new meta
>>532730750They are self improving wrong qualitiesAbout guy in your pic.1. Fit is good, obese is disaster but don't overdue into bodybuilder, that an ick.2. Balding. Get a wig.3. Shave that beard, use subtle make up for more clear face look.4. Height, if limbs lengthening is off the table at least get 2" lifts.
>>532732042>That was your only redeeming quality, Not really.>now you're literally nobody.I'm me.>What are you now, a car salesman, an insurance guy?I am an independent digital content creator, vtuber, and interactive video games streamer.>You're nothing bud.I'm me.
>>532732396For a woman, it's humiliating to be with a 5'7" man because her friends and relatives will constantly give her shit.>you could do better>short man syndrome>is he small down there too?>"compensating"
>>532730750Btw, your OP pic are a married couple doing a skit. Cope harder bitchboy
>>532730750They both going to Hell, don't be a narcissist, don't sell people your love, it doesn't matter how many times you fornicate and commit adultery, you're still going to Hell and she's going with you.
>>532730750>Was Self Improvement a psyop?Kinda, it's good to always try and make things better for yourself but you have to keep some perspective. Like there is only so much you can improve a old rotted out house no matter how much work you do.
>>532733739Cope harder both of them have a special place in Hell, not my problem they are narcissistic, parasitic, and you should not defend them you should learn to improve yourself morally, and not listen to two narcissistic parasites
>>532730750I actually agree with those who said that the whole looksmaxxing thing, at least now, has been picked up by Palintir because it’s about transhumanisn. You can have a customizable jaw, hair, eye area, anything. Human or non-human parts. Switch your gender. Change your skintone eventually . Etc.
improving for others is nonsenseeverything you ever believed in, is homosexual kike lies
>>532730750It's just an excuse to dismiss all problems men face in society. Notice how we've had 60+ years of women preaching the harm of unrealistic standards, yet 100% of women just get really angry if you suggest that unrealistic standards exist and are harmful, but not only to women? Notice how no one tells women it's because they're just lazy and entitled and need to be better?Young male suicide is shooting up sky high, and it was already much higher than women's prior. And NO ONE is acknowledging it. If you even bring it up, women get angry. Not that it's happening, that you have the audacity to acknowledge that it's happening. We don't have a male loneliness epidemic. We have a female sociopathy epidemic. I'm not joking.
>>532730750>you dont need to have friends, just enjoy life aloneWhat's wrong with this one?
>>532731181Big mistake, this picrel is what every man in Montana looks like.
>>532730750Arguably, yes. Because these people doesn't even live the way they preach even remotely. It's kind of sad how there are people who can't figure things out themselves and want to take shortcuts.
>>532730750self improvement is good, doesnt mean it will work for everybody
>>532730750Yes it was just a giant gift, normal people don't need to self improve and follow guides to get some pussy
If you're already just like a normal guy, self improvement isn't going to help, but if you're a NEET who doesn't shower and hasn't gone outside in 2 years and has no hobbies outside of vidya then obviously some self improvement is going to help.So no, "self improvement" is not a meme, anyone who says that is either justifying their shitty lifestyle or has had the privilege of hitting all their development milestones and can't put themselves in others shoes. Obviously there are grifters working under the umbrella of "self improvement", in fact listening to any influencer is probably not the way to go, but self improvement itself is useful.>inb4 HURR DURR NO BRO YOU CAN NEVER IMPROVE AT ANYTHING EVER
>>532730750That's a nice MK shirt, keep yer shin up short king
>>532733614Yer a blob. That’s what you are. Fuckin social media fag treating let his place like reddit. Fat flab beast fuck.
>>532734112It's not realistic. In every culture in every corner of the earth for every millisecond of human history, people have sought relationships. The notion that you can simply turn it off is absurd. To do so is to not be human.And that's where the controversy. People (women) view these men as subhuman, and the unforgivable sin these men commit is to still acknowledge that they are human and not something lesser.
>>532733959what the fuck are you schizo ranting about
>>532730750my femboy concubine being harrased by her leftist male feminist classmate
>>532734112This is possible but only for high IQ niggas or people who take a more spiritual approach like monks, normies like us crave social interaction because it's human nature and that won't change, forcing the idea that you could be alone and happy just deludes you and makes you turn cynical, hence why most people who follow these guys are so internally resented despite everything
>>532734379It's pretty easy to understand what he meant
>>532731181I'm 5'5 lol
>>532731400What's that have to do with anything? Want to talk about it, buddy?
>>532730750Women dont fuckin care about how much metal you can pick up. They just want brown dick in them. White anons need to race change already.
>>532734336If you haven't got some pussy by your early 20s there is no point even trying
>>532734461King
>>532730750It's an important redpill to learn that looks matter and personality is fake and gayProblem is, it's hard to change your looks
>>532730750You fucking retard self improvment will improvment yourslef not your society
>>532731181man, i want a tall bitch to cuddle and suck her tiddies on my tippy toes...
>>532734504OK mutt
>>532730875return the fuck to reddit
>>532730750Yeah self improvement to improve yourself to a "societal success" is bullshit but getting fit, creative and learning isnt. If you dont try and get a bit better then you are now youre an npc
I wanna smell Anna Jay's farts so bad
>>532730750Basically the blackpillers are right. Women want a 6'5 rich skinny guy. They don't settle for less and are perfectly fine just being one whore in Chad's harem. My advice for guys is just try to enjoy solitude, go travelling, and stop freaking out. You have no say in this system.
>>532730750The situation is fucked but would you rather be poor, no women, and weak as hell or poor, no women, but strong?
>>532731043The only reason that image is even meme is that he's trying to pick up a woman that is literally taller than he is. Homie is fucking jacked with a well-kept beard and normal shaped skull. Replace the offended-looking Stacy with a 5'0 looksmatch for the bald brother, and it's no longer funny or interesting in any way. This honestly ties in with OP's point, women fell for the psyop as well. I will literally see 10/10 arthoes on dating apps, with really funny/intelligent/niche talking points, and a gallery of photos of them doing amazing shit and looking like models. They can get dick any time they want. Attention from men all day long. But at the end of the day, they're single with no husband, kids, etc. They appear really powerful, like they could literally own the world and have everyone in the palm of their hands. But women don't know what to do with power. So they just do brunch and watch reality TV, and then get fucked by attractive guys they secretly hate and who secretly hate them. Because the guys don't have the same time/space/resources to just develop the 'self' like women do. These women are in the best shape, go out to eat daily, have time for niche hobbies and are incredibly well-read, invested in politics, $25 smoothies, make cool art. That's how they exert their power today. By becoming so badass and untouchable that they become completely untouched. tl;dr Women aren't winning either. We're all fucking losing lol
This is a pro-wrestling bit btw.
Honest question. What did you guys expect "self-improvement" to do for you?Did you think all your problems would go away if you could bench 3 plates, got a haircut, and wore clothes that fit for once? It's good to take care of yourself, but "self-improvement" only ever seemed concerned with improving surface level aspects of your life while neglecting your emotional growth and character development. I feel like so many people got sucked into the grift, put tons of effort into the material aspect of themselves, while never stopping to think if they were actually enjoyable, fun, and emotionally intelligent people to be around. If you prop yourselves up on the surface while neglecting the inner work at the same time, you don't come across as someone who has their shit together. You come across as someone insecure and tense, who takes themselves too seriously.It's very telling that 90% of posts here are from people who tried to improve themselves by raising themselves above "normies," and when things didn't turn out the way they thought, their first instinct is to blame women, whores, trannies, and jews instead of looking inward and reflecting on who they became.
>>532734765Shut up
>>532734459Oh yeah, I mislicked. I meant this guy:>>532733976
>>532734358it’s actually extremely realistic for men to do. Men don’t need society, society needs men. Don’t pay taxes (check thar “exempt” box on your w-4), don’t consoom, don’t buy shit for girls ever, and just do what you want. Life gets a lot better when you just adopt the monk lifestyle, because suddenly you don’t have a million vampires sucking at you every day.
>>532734358>People (women)debatable
>>532733959>>532734379Law of diminishing returns or atrophy. There's a reason alexander the great died at 33. He died young and never knew his older self which is a blessing most of us don't have.
>>532732124>damn. life must be actually quite tough for tall girlsHow? It absolutely is not. They're winning at life, first of all because they are women, and then on top of that the height is a bonus. Next you're going to say life must be tough for beautiful, successful, healthy, and intelligent women.
>>532730750Depends, self improvement for your own benefit is based. Self improvement for the approval of others (women, society etc) is pointless because people are always going to find a reason to hate you if they want to hate you,
people bury their own issues under a layer of gyms, work, or some other superficial thing
When you realize anxiety and gratitude are the obverse of each other and are controlled by the same region of the brain, you should also realize self-improvement doesn't start in the gym.You need to lurk MOAR in church before you post irl.
>>532734723Women don’t like skinny guys. If blackpillers are being honest they should accept the studies which confirm it as well as the anecdotal evidence. They can’t conflate their own aesthetic ideals with what’s been scientifically studied when it suits their “everyone is fucked” narrative.
>>532735088Tall is good for guys, not so much for women.
>>532730750Yes, self improvement is a psyop. You should stay dumb, greasy, smelly, weak and poor person. Didn't read your wall of text.
>>532735708Depends what you mean by tall. The ideal height for a woman is definitely 5’7-5’9 which is tall and above average for their gender. That’s why usually that height becomes female models. But they get diminishing returns much quicker
>>532735144Been there, done that. Did all this stuff and self improved. At the end of it all i got was "where's your money". You gotta be the whole package for people to respect you. Old boomers can sniff out if you don't have money too and mock you.People are shallow and vain and i really don't care for humanity anymore. When you are young they want to use you and vicariously live thru you. They want you to do things so they can speak for you and exist from you.When you get older all people want is money from you. Since you can no longer do things for them you might as well pay them to do things. Being old is just a burden really and old people shouldn't exist but they do because of social services and money. Ideal society is like logans run. Everyone is perfect and young. A work/life balance. Nobody is dependent on anyone. Boomers skewed this system by refusing to accept they are old and just won't stop existing for the sake of existing.
>>532735880>Boomers skewed this system by refusing to accept they are old and just won't stop existing for the sake of existing.A good example of this is boomers living in these massive homes which they own outright as a single person. They are all over my neighborhood. Just 70+ year olds living alone while birth rates across america are dropping. They should be nursing homes right now these houses filled with young people. That's how it used to be in the past but somehow the older generations are richer than the younger ones.
>>532733684Women are bad people
>>532735469>Muh krusty kangKys wannabe jew
>>532730750The original 'game' advice was to be the best you that you can be. By having decent health, normal BMI, clothes that fit, and friends who treat you well, you're doing better than most.If that isn't enough to get a girlfriend, your life is probably still better than it was.
>>532730750I've learned over my long years of isolation that hobbymaxxing is the real hack. Physical hobbies in particular. Being skilled at a physical hobby exposes you to the maximum amount of attractive women and you being skilled at them impresses them more than looking like Arnold Scwarzenigger. Although I will admit I'm not quite a manlet at 6'1" I just fuck up all my relationships with extreme autism. The above tactics I describe seem to alleviate that well enough. I would tell you the one that I've gotten the most success with but I'm extremely selfish and don't want to give my game away. I will give you at least a hint though. It's extremely female dominated.
>>532730750The decline of men approaching women functions like a political shock even when nobody frames it that way.It reshapes family formation. Fewer approaches mean fewer relationships, later marriages, lower birth rates, and accelerating demographic decline. That feeds directly into labor shortages, pension stress, immigration politics, and generational conflict. Governments can pass incentives but they cannot legislate attraction or courage.Second, it polarizes gender politics. Many women interpret non-approach as disinterest or resentment while many men experience it as rational risk avoidance shaped by social sanction, economic precarity, and fear of misreading norms. Each side builds narratives about the other and political movements harvest those grievances.Third, it weakens informal social trust. Approaching a stranger used to be a low-level civic act that trained people to tolerate rejection, ambiguity, and difference. When that disappears, people retreat into apps, algorithms, and identity-filtered spaces which harden group boundaries and reduce empathy.Fourth, it shifts power to platforms and institutions. Dating apps, HR departments, and legal frameworks mediate intimacy that used to be negotiated face to face. That concentrates cultural authority in systems optimized for liability management and profit, not human bonding.Finally, it produces downstream radicalization. Large populations of unattached men historically correlate with instability, withdrawal, or extremist politics. Most do not become violent but many disengage from civic life, work, and optimism itself which is politically corrosive.
Self-Improvement Generals are more or less banned. There is a concentrated effort to not allow anons to share with each other tips of how to come out of the soul-sucking malaise of modernity and uplift each other because that's the antithesis of this boards existence. Doing such things leads to comradery and that can turn into movements and possibly decentralized insurgencies as you find common ground with people around you about the situation we're all in and start piecing things together.Yes, you should be lifting weights.Yes, you should be out of your room and away from your electronics.Yes, you should clean your room and upkeep your appearance through decent clothing, composure and hygiene and not because granny-muff munching Jordan Peterson has a keen interest in you washing your dick.Yes, you should be taking interest in a broad range of hobbies that puts you out into the world and interacting with your fellow creatures.The world demands you to be weak, servile, dependent and fed a negative feedback loop by staring longingly into black cubes and screens for meaning without ever once looking up to the stars and finding it there. Yes, video games are fine but keep in mind that they are also a time sink to keep you inert for hours on end. While momentarily satisfying, it ultimately brings on real world satisfaction. There's a reason couch co-op died out.The more and more marginalized, divided, misguided and hopeless you are, the easier you are to control. To malign. To corrall. There is a concentrated effort and multiple fronts insisting this life be imposed upon you in such a way. You must reject it with all your will in whatever way you can.Civilize the mind, but make savage the body.
>>532736860I've only known this for a relatively short time, but I think you articulated the truth better than any I have heard before, so I thank you for taking the time.
>>532736860Most antisemitic post in this thread.
>>532731181I went from 177cm to 181cm with insoles and the difference is night and day.
>>532730750These people are what is wrong with our society, you're obligated to never defend what they're doing.
>>532737489What flag is this?
>>532736860Self improvement threads and homesteading threadsRIP.
>>532737722Average height is 176cm here
>>532736860>Yes, video games are fine but keep in mind that they are also a time sink to keep you inert for hours on end. While momentarily satisfying, it ultimately brings on real world satisfaction. There's a reason couch co-op died out.Terry Davis had the answer to this. Make games, don't play them.
>>532731400Feds must be paying you good.
>>532730750Incels don't exist, but narcissistic parasites do exist. It's one thing to get married, it another thing to broadcast your marriage to people like some dogmatic psychological torture. Basically the people in the picture want your energy they want your power they want you to feel powerless. Don't listen to them, all they do is fornicate and commit adultery , but you're better than them.
>>532737489Lmao fag
>>532730750>The only people who comment on their bodies are other men. Their Instagram comment section is full of "keep going bro" and "looking big king" by other men while devoid of female attention completely.Based. That's why I do it.I'm married like a normal person, so unlike you retard ugly incel fuck I don't need or want femoid attention.The respect of his peers is immeasurably more important to any man worth his salt.I'm really happy about the modern trend of doing fitness, watching what you eat and staying strong. We will be in a difficult war for our very survival very soon (if you're white) so it's important to be stronger than every brownoid you encounter and of course being a better martial artist.
>>532736788There's also an inorganic movement online to attempt to goad men into going back out to take part in society. Restaurants, bars, malls and other services are struggling to keep the overhead going and if men aren't out hounding for pussy everything collapses even faster. This can be observed when retarded boomers and shills online seethe and get angry that men are "giving up" on life, as if we personally signed some contract to eternally chase entitled pussies around, and we've somehow broken it against their behest. Laughable fucking shit, why do they want the "neurotic losers" as they deem them, to go out and touch grass?So they can abuse men and denigrate them more? AS others have noted, there is no giving up, it's just a matter of expending energy elsewhere worthwhile, especially during a time when the average roastie deserves no consideration at all.
>>532730750aren't these two married?
>>532730750“Self-improvement” doesn’t work because the foundation is self-centered and thus the practices become circular and detached from the results that are sought after because humans are social creatures who need structure, organization, and a definable collective to have a direction of what to “improve” for and towards. Self-improvement is like getting on a boat without a destination and just hoping that by paddling hard enough and keeping the deck clean you’ll get somewhere, when in reality the only people who reach a destination are the ones who’ve set themselves on a specific destination beforehand regardless of what the process to get there looks like. It’s why people become religious.
>>532731469>Stop improving yourself bro x182747Thanks for exposing him dutchbro. Pretty sure it's either Wumao or Laktha retards behind the "just stay fat and unhealthy if you're white LOL" threads. An attack on America, the Constitution and our shared white heritage. Get off your fucking asses and lift you faggots. You don't have to go to a gym for that.You got the internet and most likely some object heavier than your dick. That's 95% of all you need right there. It's good to use supplements if you're older. But if you're in your 20s you can skip even that shit.
>>532730750AEW is a fucking joke.
>>532736860>>532737728Banned threads:>Nigger hate threads>Woman hate threads >Self-improvement threads>Homesteading threadsThey don't want you having an accurate perception of reality and they don't want you talking to others and hashing out what needs to be done about it
>>532733739That's John Silver and Anna Jay of AEW Wrestling - they are definitely not married.
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