It's over for nato
>>532742599We should kick america out of nato, they're a paper tiger who would side with russia anyway if they attacked
NATO IS THE WORST!
>>532742599You can totally protect yourself from invaders If you will produce million fpv-drones and shaheds by year
we can only hope
>>532742599Good. Its becoming clear to even the normalfags that we dont like the Europeans and the Europeans dont like us. And even before all this stuff going down the only reason NATO was kept around was so that the ruling class had an excuse for their cocktail parties.
Orange nigger can't leave NATO without a 2/3 senate majority which he will never get. It's LARP.See>the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2024, enacted on 22 December 2023, prohibits the President from unilaterally withdrawing from NATO without approval of a two-third Senate super-majority or an act of Congress.
>>532742983see>>532743106you dumb fat brown muttoid
>>532742599I think we should just tell NATO we're in control as we've always been and they were nothing but a fake council of nonpowers that occasionally had good ideas and they just don't anymore, and stay in and keep bullying into submission per usual, it is the American way.
>>532742599Didnt he want to pull out since 2016?Work it make it do it mix it harder better faster stronger
>>532742599Good riddance
>>532742713true
>>532743190>>532743228see>>532743106dumb fat brown muttoid
>>532742599You mean it's over for America?
>>532743368Okay little nonpower, nice meme image, have a nice seething impotent day okay?
>>532743428Your orange nigger can't leave NATO. Another humiliation for your Orange Nigger.
>>532742713NATO is America, you retard. There won't be a NATO without America in it. And I'm not saying that as some superiority nonsense, look up what NATO means.
>>532742713We shouldn't do anything and see what the next president's stance on nato will be. Trump is not an ally, obviously.
>>532742983Divide and conquer. Just as the Jew wants.
>>532742599How do communists still believe American imperialism is a thing? America is literally set to dismantle NATO now
>>532743504US profits far more from NATO than Europe does. NATO only serves kike interests. The faster Europe can decouple from this gay organization, the better things will be and it'll be much harder for US kikes to start new wars in the Middle East without bases which they incessantly use and we have to pay for.
>>532743504There's still Canada, so actually the North Atlantic Treaty Organization will go on as usual.
Blumpf will never get a 2/3 senate vote for leaving NATO. Never in a million years.
Nah based psycho Rutte knows how to handle him.
>>532743428I would be careful if I were you anon...
>>532743722why is he psycho?
>>532743722By sucking him off? Rutte is a fucking embarrassment. No surprise he came from such a gay country.
This is yet more low IQ SLOP for the retarded MIGGERS who can't read or think good.
>>532743106>>532743131>>532743368Do you want us in your gay club or not, frenchie?
>>532743621>NATO only serves kike interests.not any more. Israel wants to take on Turkey. That's why the Jews are whispering anti-NATO sentiments into Trump's ear. But first, they must divide us. That's why they've been talking about how bad Europe is. Even though right now Europe is investing a crazy amount into their military. We're getting a whole new fleet. Some of us are paying more per capita than America is. Of all times to pull out of NATO, this is the most silly time to do it. But it doesn't matter. People have their opinions.
>>532742599This guy is a woman
>>532743747Idk im just making shit up but he knows how to lie, smooth talk, flatter, insult and do it all with a big smile.
>>532743876Turkey is a loose cannon that plays its own game and doesn't exactly adhere to NATO which is what pisses kikes off. That and Turkey is in the way of the Greater Israel project
>>532742599Won't happen some judge is already preparing the papers to slap his ass down if he tries to do it without congress.
>>532743797>>532743797Shut your whore mouth
>>532742599ww3 will be eu vs america over greenland
>>53274399435 posts until 1 American who isn't a complete retard to showed up!
>>532742599taco
>>532743504In your own words, what does it mean?
>>532742713We are like 70% of NATO funding you fucking retard. You are NOTHING without us.
>>532744188lol, lmao
ww3 incoming
>>532744188Oh look, another ACTUAL retard who doesn't understand how NATO works, and of course it's a mutt flag, what a surprise.Allow me to educate your 80 IQ excuse for a brain. There's no such thing as "NATO funding". Every country spends as much on their own defence as they wish, though the recommendation was 2% of GDP (now 3%). Was this simple enough for you to understand, or shall I dumb it down even further?
He won
Without the US it'd be the second biggest budget military in the world. Without the issue of a retarded member.
>>532742599I'm starting to think Trump is retarded.
>>532744188National military spending isn't the NATO cost, these are two different things
>>532742599>america withdraws from nato>israel drones turkey>????>hall of cost 2.0
Trump may not be able to officially withdraw, but he can publicly state that the USA's nato support in the case of a war is one bullet or something like that. NATO is dead till the next president.
does america even have ammunition to defend itself
>>532742599How long until he tacos
>>532742599Trump will TACO anyway, also this >>532743106
>>532742599>lose war>leave alliancestotally make senseok he got salty no one picked up his shit to clean, but USA need allies even if only to show they are same side instead China's
>>532742599>NATO>without AmericaI guess now it will be called NTO
>>532742599don't really care what the US does, but doesn't US backing out of NATO require congressional approval?or is that another one of your fake "checks and balances"?
>>532742599I only want NATO so the yuros take the first wave of ICBMs. But Trump can't leave without senate 2/3 which is impossible. Same reason he can't get impeached even though the Dems are going to take house in midterms.
>>532744836>starting towhat took you so long retard, well, better late than never
>>532743917True. The guy is 100% dedicated to his craft. Certified ice cold killah.
>>532742599Finally all of that NATO money can be spent on Israel where it belongs.
>>532742599NATO will continue to exist regardless of whether the US remains a member or not.
>>532745460>>532745479funny how that law was specifically enacted to prevent the orange retard from doing exactly this
>>532744131Tbh that might not be a bad thing. Let all wars be fought in Greenland, not much up there to destroy and people in the rest of the world can live there lives without dodging bombs. We could even stream it for entertainment!
>>532742599>>532742713>>532742744Its funny cause this admin actually i feel hates white peopledidnt stop ukie warbombed iranians for no reasonkissed israel asshas no concern for proper domestic affairsattacks greenlandwants out of nato to ignore europe and stay with israelat least botox barbies say they are christian nowbut the president praises allah on easter of all daysamerica is fucking
>>532743876>Even though right now Europe is investing a crazy amount into their military.this is why eurocucks will fail.europe is whole sustained on brazil and africa food and trade. if they started doing shit more seriously they would not be investing into weapons but in survival.today i was seeing a vid from paris, there is actually no climate and no soil for food, all is cold stone and faggotry.what you gonna live on?treatening africa or brazil with nuclear shit will do nothing. look at china for example, they are trying to turn green their desert areas, they are more prone to success on survivability than eurocucks.the thing you should´ve done but are not, is killing your traitor politicians, but instead of that, you are weaponizing for war that will kill and get rid of few trully europeans pure blood that are there now. you are accepting muslin people into your grounds and mixing with niggers, no nuclear strike can be more powerfull than that.niggers and muslins are more dangerous than nukes but eurocucks will never learn that.
>>532742983Literally this is just so you can suck even more Israeli cock. Stop with all the cope posting.
>>532745600With no isr, no satellites, no strategic cargo lift, no navy and no bombers. It will be extremely weak and game theory suggests Russia should immediately nuke ukraine and invadr thr baltics, finland, poland and romania and if nato fights back and attacks more than attritional trench warfare, nuke them too
>>532742983>Its becoming clear to even the normalfags that we dont like the Europeans and the Europeans dont like us.blatantly false, if you can't handle a bit of banter then get fucked. Europe hates Trump, other than that we've pretty much been butt buddies since foreveri swear to fucking god there's a psyop going on to turn us against each other, probably the jews.
>>532746081Lmao at Russia's current rate in Ukraine they would take 20 years to get through Poland.
>>532743876>Some of us are paying more per capita than America is.All of us are paying more per capita than America is.The US both lies about their total spending on NATO, counting all spending on abroad forces forming the US hegemony as NATO spending under the ruse that they could always be redeployed to a European theater if need be, and the US profits IMMENSELY from the fact that NATO is aligned on a common system of weapons platforms - which is the US one, i.e. all European NATO nations are buying from the US military-industrial complex to strengthen the US economy. And what the US invests is basically going back into their own pockets, via the same US military-industrial complex on top of that.
>>532746081if Russia nukes Europe, they'll get nuked in return, i'm sure you salivate at the idea, but i don't think Moscow are suicidal
The most tragic state of affairs is that whenever NATO is discussed, it becomes painfully clear that Americans don't know what NATO is, don't know how warfare is fought, don't understand how foreign influence is created or maintained, and don't understand the benefits of having such influence. They seem to believe that things like the dollar being the reserve currency, the ability to project power anywhere in the world, and the seat they have at every single table comes from some kind of magical elf rainbow power conjured from nothing. The carefully nurtured dependency of the whole world on American opinion generations of American politicians have managed to engineer is being dismantled right before their eyes, and they categorize the disastrous loss of global influence as something positive, because it saves them some short term money.There is no way to explain this other than contemporary Americans being the dumbest people in the world. Even Somalians, who are otherwise considered the least intellectually capable people on Earth, understand that in order to have influence, you have to have reach.
>>532746680Idiocracy was a documentary
>>532742713You're going to be free from American influence in Europe. It's time for celebration.
the ability for the US to project power from NATO installations is the most costly element of it.
>>532745852>today i was seeing a vid from paris, there is actually no climate and no soil for food, all is cold stone and faggotry.>what you gonna live on?Dutch glasshouse farming technology has 25-35x the yield of modern open air farming, as used in the US. And that's including all the crap from Monsanto gene-spliced crops improving fertility, hardening against diseases, yada-yada-yada. Uses a fraction of the land, and a fraction of the water.The Dutch are sitting on it, but could probably literally solve world hunger if they'd mass the technology.The problem is shipping it all out to Africa without the food rotting, and African infrastructure and agricultural knowledge in general isn't good enough to produce succesfully with the technology locally... *yet*.
>>532746341>>532746674They will just nuked them if they fight back bud; only france has nukes (you rent yours from us) and france has spent 50 years reminding everyone thry will only use them if france is attacked. The US leaving nato means russia controls europe or faces a large scale war which will destroy their entire industrial output and kill millions
its truly disgusting how not only the normie cattle, but 98% of you retards believe every fake news kikes come up with to obviously manipulate your imbecile assesthis world is lost
>>532742599>Divest and exit from NATO>Invest and grow NORADThis is the winning move. Am-Can!
>>532742599This won't happen because americans don't want out of NATO, even if we can't wait for them to fuck off already, maybe take their precious kikes with them in the process. Please god, just fuck off already mutts, we don't want you, you chose your allegiance to shitskins long ago, europe has nothing for you anymore.These are empty threats made with the purpose of creating fear, hoping Europe will submit to the US. Yet the only ones who fall for these threats and believe there is true to them are ultimately, american citizens.
>>532746740Amen. Keep also in mind that the average literacy rate of adult Americans is such that 70% doesn't meet the bar to compare to the literacy of a common European 10-year old. How can you expect a populace to understand complex geopolitical, logistics or military matters, when they quite literally CAN'T - EVEN - FUCKING - READ.
>>5327469041. we own the warheads and can just convert them2. France is starting talks about covering more countries with their nuclear umbrella3. Most NATO countries aren't realistically covered by US nukes anyway. Literally no one believes that the US will go into a nuclear war with Russia over fuckin Estonia
>>532742599rutte will pull through for us. He can asslick even better than his cabinet.When he went to the US he told US voters that they were wrong and that they should back Trump's war in Iran.I'm glad ben wallace got snubbed I can't imagine he'd be pulling out all the stopslmao I'm already chuckling at the trump-rutte skits comics will be writing 30 years from now after his memoir
>>532745422This has to be bait. Please be bait.
>>532742599How likely is it that all this talk of US leaving NATO is paving the way for an attack on Turkey?https://www.youtube.com/shorts/kaOWgujCHtA?feature=share
>>5327473821. lol, you cant even send a single ship to the med bud, much less fly a long range bombing mission over russia hahaha2. Starting, be the key word. If we leave, nato will be at its absolute weakest it will ever be and thats why its when russia should attack, its simple game theory 3. Realism is irrelevant, the chance is all that is needed. When the chance is removed, the math changes
>>532746081Game theory doesn't endorse suicidal moves.>>532746904You have no conception of how warfare, international relations or geopolitics work.
>>532742599I really wanna see them try to do anything in the middle east without Ramstein. Go for it lmao. You need us more then we need you.
>>532743876We cant be next iran while iran is still iran.
>>532742713>paper tiger...get in bed.
>>532742713You'd have to because Trump doesn't have 2/3 of the senate. I doubt he could even muster 1/3.
>>532742599Rutte will suck his cock while begging him to stay
USA would give away so much power and influence pulling out the MIC would assassinate Trump before let this stupid brainfart to fruitition.
>>532746904don't have the time or energy to argue with this much stupid
>>532747679do you think our nukes are in surface vessels?and again without you nato is the second biggest military by spending in the world
>>532742599Wtf does radio have anything to do with this?
>>532742599Rutte should show Trump his toilet birthday calendar and the poo-inspection shelf in his toilet and offer Trump some stamppot.
>>532746680I can't speak for the migger boomers who really do just want to save a buck, but the rest of us simply don't give a shit because that same power is invariably used against us in the end anyway. American ZOG hegemony is used to disenfranchise White people around the world and we're not going to miss it.
>>532748048Oh whoops, I read that wrong. NATO. Not radio
>>532747747You seem upset, haha. Yes, right after the US leaves nato is when it will be at its absolute weakest, simple game theory says this is the best time for russia to sieze the territory they want, which is scandi, baltics, poland and romania. Which they can do because if you fight back and extentially threaten russia, they can nuke you all. So its a war that is impossible for you to win and impossible for russia to lose. Your only option would be fighting an attritional war to stalemate and causing them to leave. Thats it. So yes, simple game theory makes a russian attack a certainty so your choices are bow before putin or die. Simple as
>>532742599NATO is as much to keep European countries from turning on each other as it was to defend against the Soviet Union. Like they're actually going to keep to their word and not fight when Daddy leaves the room. Eurofaggots will immediately chimp out on each other. It's what you do.
Good, I got what I voted for. You lost tranny
>>532747959>>532748025You can beat russia because russia has nukes. You can only fight an attritional war to stalemate and cause them to retreat. This makes the math simple: russia cannot lose and europe cannot win, europe will be the weakest they will evrr be right after we leave and therefore russia should invade then after nuking ukraine. Which means if europe doesnt want to be destroyed they have to accept russia as their new masters. Simple game theory
>>532743504America doesn't need NATO and NATO doesn't need America
>>532747679No one is worried about about nuclear blackmail from Russia, its a meme. They wont even use a tactical nuke in Ukraine, and they're not in NATO or anything else
>>532743530The next president won't be a sub 80 iq geriatric monkey and they will probably be extra sympathetic to Euros and NATO after maximal accelerationist Zognald
>>532748376They aren’t using one in Ukraine because of us bud, as soon as we leave, they will. This is simple game theory a child can understand
>>532748494Stop coping. Russia is a paper tiger and so is the US. You need to pack your bags and leave. Host your bases in Israel if they'll allow you.
>>532742599The president says, double-sided ceasefire; that two headed eagle, trying to confuse people.
>>532742599If Turkey is next on the chopping block, dismantling Nato makes sense.
>>532748103Based should have happend in 1991
>>532748319simple game theory doesn't rely on one party having no consideration for his own life
>>532748660This.
>>532743641Hahahaha Canada has two rowboats, an M-1 Garand and a warehouse of rainbow dialators
>>532743228> better faster strongerScooter?
>>532748559Haha we have been trying to peave for 30 years, reducing our troops from 300k to 50k in the 2010s and your leaders pitch a fit every single time because thr math is simple that russia will control Europe as soon as we leave, so we are now required by law to keep 75k troops and 50 planes there and we keep exactly this minimum at the request of your leadership. Americans do not want to be in Europe and do not care about europe at all. Better brush up on your russian though
>>532748701it's very hard to become a national leader without basic self preservation instincts
>>532742713How are you able to type with your mouth full of jew dick?
>>532742599>German govt. taxes me to pay for the upkeep of those bases>freeloading parasites threaten to leave againnever happen
>>532748848Da comrade now gtfo
>>532742713We accept your terms.
>>532748701Russia has repeatedly shown in the 50 times they have invaded or been invaded in the last 500 years that they are willing to accept extreme amounts of casualties to achieve their goals, often willing to lose 10:1 as long as they win
>>532742599how fast will trump cave this time?
>>532748494No one thinks you will risk nuclear annihilation over Ukraine
>>532748660>>532748783
>>532742599not surprised desu. look at this clown rolling red carpet for putin
>>532748559At least Russia fights for its own interests. America is a paper golem.
>>532749058Lmao, cope, seethe and dilate bud. You know i am right and you are wrong so I accept your defeat. Good day
>>532748974there's no win condition in nuclear war.
>>532742713First of all retarded fin you’re new also we don’t need or want you fucks may Russia take you all
>>532742713we are literally all that there is to nato, the uk cant even field a single fucking warship, france is full of retards and germany is cucked beyond comprehension. all the other members are so worthless they arent even worth mentioning.
>>532749379meh, funding is now 40% - 60% split for eu and usa too. but ground forces are larger for EU significantlyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw3xgqocfgY
>>532749379you cant field a war in the middle east without RAF Fairford
>>532749096God willing. This is the future we were promised.
>>532748974>has repeatedly shownName even one, nigger.
>>532742599No one will stay vassal without the protection from America. Don't destroy your own empire
>>532749633russia is a muslim country btw
>>532745422>>532747583>North AmericanMore like North AfricanIt's North ATLANTIC, niggers...
>>532750051Reality, statistics and basic logic beg to differ
>532749379>can't even defeat Israel>talks down to EuropeansLmao.
>>532742983Like when they cut off USAIDS you see who gets real mad when the free gibs run out, not to mention the funding for glow ops.
>>532750191Compared to europe russia is muslim
>>532742599This means no nukes over europe right? Right??
>>532748883Your president knows all about jew cock sucking, maybe you should ask him>>532749369Thanks for proving my point>>532749379You lost to Iran. You are a paper tiger that begged for nato's help to bail you out of your war for israel, and threw a tantrum after we kindly told you no. You need us more than we need you. Say bye bye to your european bases, say bye bye to your influence in the eastern hemisphere.
>>532742599who is pulling out of whom in this situation?
>>532750191reality is that russia is a central asian mutt muslim country. no amount of russophilic slav-asian rape babies or odd balkanite browns like yourself will change that fact.
Why would you suicide your logistics network in a tardrage? You'd have to fly everything from the pacific.
>>532749246what the fuck
>>532743131>>532743368the average huwhite american is leagues whiter than the average gallo-roman french rape baby thats been turned even darker by years and years of spanish and north african migration
>>532746879Is anything you said actually true? Quite the whitepill if so
>>532749556RAF Shitford is not needed, we could have moved B-52s to israel they would just become easier targets
>>532747583No it was really in the New York Times the other dayhttps://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/fact-check-york-times-did-032640330.html
just ignore him and wait the midterms where he loses all the power. after that simply wait for Newsom to take the wheel
>>532750670we didnt lose shit nigger
>>532752206>we didn't lose shitDenial is the first step of the grieving process
>>532746680Sweden is the gayest country in the world and youre all godless leftists. Fuck europe. I hope you get raped by muslims.
>>532751758Jesus fucking ChristJew York Times would hire any dumb fuck nigger these days
>>532742599I wish it would finally happen but they will never allow it too.
>>532742713>would side with Russia anyway if they attackedHa, I fucking wish. The US allying with Russia would be the obvious and immediate strategic move if we were actually led by people who were smart and cared about the country instead of mindbroken kike golems
>>532742599He can't actually do that kek
>>532742599Good for America and Russia. Bad for Europe and Ukraine.
>>532754522CIA can.
>>532754559In a dream alternate history scenario America stayed non kiked and white and allied with Tsarist Orthdox Russia to spit roast Yurop and establish the circumference spanning eternal White empire. Alas we live in the nigger faggot retard Jew mutt communist timeline. Fuark
>>532743862It isn't a gay club any more if you leave so no.
they passed a law in 2023(24? 22? might have the wrong year) requiring congressional approval to truly leave so it will amount to a fat nothingburger. he'll sperg out pretend we left then everyone quietly waits for 28 to go back to normal
>>532742599Are Americans really this stupid?1. Can't leave NATO without congressional approval, and Trump has zero chance of passing it. There is a reason republicans are always so silent on Trump kvetching about NATO.2. America was already effectively not a part of NATO anymore after Trump became president. He was never going to act on article 5 from the beginning, so it never mattered whether or not the US was in NATO.
>>532754559>russian pig is an idiot
>>532743541yup
>>532745852Paris is a city not a country you jungle nigger. France has a lot of farmland
>>532742599So Trumps plan for Iran in a nutshell:>Tear up Obamas nuclear deal>Assassinate IRGC generals and leadership>Start a war with Iran>Ignore decades of planning by the CIA, Navy, Airforce and Army>Make shit up as he goes along>Get's angry that he has no support from allies for his poorly planned war>Gives up after 40 days>Blames NATO LMAO Americans, you elected a fucking retard.
>>532742599cheers & checked
>>532742599inb4 crypto-Jew judge with a Star Wars name blocks it