This is huge. Finland tracked EVERY tranny under 23 in the country, between 1996 and 2019.>ConclusionMen who "transitioned" had a 6.19-fold decline in mental health.Women who "transitioned" had a 2.52-fold decline.April 2026 study.Why are "trans" activists suddenly silent? How does this help anyone? Or are they afraid to face the truth: that they've harmed the very people they tried to help?
https://doi.org/10.1111/apa.70533Study link.
>>532743157So...there was detailed record about all homosexuals since 80's
Treat them better and they won't have so many issues. It's like asking a freed Reconstruction era slave if he feels safe.
>>532743157>people who cut off their genitals due to weird fetish porn and social media pressure becomes more unhappyWow, who would have ever guessed. Seriously though, the fingols could have saved the money on the study, I could have told them that shit.
or maybe finland is just a depressing ass country to be mtf lolthe state of tranny gender care in this country is ugly af
>>532743767Imagine needing "care"... downs syndrome tier.
>>532743600Cope, tranny. You know you're an unnatural freak, an aberration.
>>532743547creepy as fuck>>532743600lmao yup that's about it really.this shit study is so flawed on all premises even without reading it because i actually know the real situation on the ground and also the fact that finland as a whole is a mentally fucked shithole depression hell place tranny or not
>>532743600Oh yeah? Then why did literal slaves seen as non-human have a much lower rates of suicide? Why are the suicide rates of trannies in even the most pro-tranny countries still sky-high? >Quantitative estimates of [slave suicide rates] are very low where calculable. One analysis of available data (drawing on Lester and related historical sources) puts the rate at roughly 1.0 per 100,000 for enslaved African men and 0.44 per 100,000 for enslaved African women. >By 1890, the recorded suicide rate for Black males was 1.4 per 100,000 (vs. 8.0 per 100,000 for White males).
>>532743767It must be repeated:You will never be a real woman.
>>532743937it only really boils down to just getting HRT that's about it. should have had it earlier honestly.
>>532743987Slave life isn't so bad compared to being a tranny, you still have your dick, you can have a family, friends etc.
>>532743600>>532743767>>532743985If "transphobia" is the cause of mental health issues, why do countries with the highest "transgender" acceptance (like Sweden) still show the highest post-"transition" suicide rates?If "gender identity" is innate, why do desistance rates for childhood "gender dysphoria" exceed 90% when puberty is allowed to occur naturally?Why am I obligated to accept and support their identity? Because otherwise they will kill themselves? So they're using the threat of suicide to force others into their desired behavior pattern? In any other context that is a severe personality disorder - why is it normal for a "transgender" person?
>>532744164Kill yourself subhuman tranny freak. Oh wait...you will.
>>532744164Doesn't really matter all that much. The kids who get trooned out early with HRT turns into non passing gigahons just like all other trannies.
>>532743157The only thing that works on trannies mental health is antipsychotics because they're psychotic.No one ever talks about this because trannies are connected to fags and lesbians, so if you prescribe antipsychotics to trannies you can do the same to gays and lesbians and no one wants to admit that gays and dykes arent biological
>>532743157The fact that we live in a world where people aren't terrified to say they're trannies is so brutal to me. It's like living in some terrifying alt world where people continued using lobotomies on anyone with mental health problems. Imagine just giving people hormones that completely break their brains and encourage their mental illnesses, and then give them surgeries to cut off their organs. Worst timeline ever. If earth doesn't end up destroyed in a couple of hundreds of years we'll be considered as one of the most batshit insane and fucked up generations ever. Crazy freaks that oblige and tolerate everything, probably pedophilia and cannibalization soon too atp.
>>532743600>>532743985Kill yourself
>>532744355He will. They all will.
>Trannies become more mentally ill when you enable their mental illnessIt's like a druggie you let them feel ok doing all sorts of drugs until they're shooting up some flesh-eating shit, or in this case now fent turning them into zombies.
>>532743157There are two genders.The rest is psychiatric case.
If you read about people who actually worked in these gender clinics, what they do is actually horrific. They try and sterilize young people with things like schizophrenia too, instead of treating the underlying issues, because it makes a shitload of money to rush them into taking drugs for life.
>>532743985I'm regularly told Finland is the HAPPIEST PLACE ON EARTH.
>>532743245>10% of males have "mental health problems">21% of females have "mental health problems"What the fuck is wrong with peoples? They have boring, conformist lives and should have zero problem.
>>532744481the same people who run those rankings didnt they rank lithuania as having the happiest youth?go figure.
>>532743987It's not about suicide rates of the two groups. You miss the point. It's equivalent to asking a postwar slave if he feels safe. Of course he does not, and the reasons are wholly out of his control. He might even have felt safer as a slave, but that is not a reason to return to slavery. It's an indictment of how society treats him as a free man. When trans people are told to kill themselves daily it makes an impact, but that's not to say they are any more at fault than a black slave being free is the slave's fault.
>>532743157>that they've harmed the very people they tried to help?But they always intended to harm.
>>532743157Decline in what? What the fuck is "psychiatric morbidity"? These faggot clown doctors should know by now not to use their pretentious technical language when disseminated information to the general public.
>>532743600Trannies who don't do the surgery are doing ok though, with mental health levels barely worse than the average population.Seems as if it really is the part where you have your genitals brutally amputated and replaced with shitty facsimiles that fucks people up beyond repair.
>>532744396Doubt it chud. Your orange god is now in support. Soon you will follow him and pretend you always were.
Suicide tendencies in transgenders stems from a natural guilty associated with not doing what society expects of you. It's a similar guilt felt by criminals who have broken the law, and know people that know them will judge them if they find out.The entire argument pro-transgender has been that statistics show a decline in suicide tendencies for people allowed to transition. This is because allowing them to transition makes them live in their delusion. It's a bit like anti-depressants. Its effects wears down over time, and eventually, one day, a tranny will look at himself and empathize with all the people who thought he was just a retard, and dispell the delusion that he was a real woman, when he obviously isn't, and he's now above it, and all he has left is to contemplate on the past 20 years of his life and how he wasted them on a mental illness.Because of this, people who support trannies are actually hurting them. They are mentally ill, and are just told to feed it, instead of finding a method to break them out of it. Typically it stems from lack of self esteem, and angst about having been born as a guy, if you want to hang out with girls. But you can't just change who you are. We all deal with the bodies and brains we were given, and make concessions. That's true for literally all men.
>>532744547Just move to Russia, Pekka. They love you tranny aberrations over there. And you will still never be a woman. Just so you don't forget.
>>532743157Nice i hope more off themselves
>>532743600>Trust the science chud >Unless it opposes the narrative, then its fascist propaganda
>>532744537Western society is in the point of total demoralization and decline. People realize the standards will never get better, they notice that white people around them are aging out and they're surrounded by old people while all the young people are foreigners with cultures of their own that see them as competition. There's a constant mental pressure to live up to some retarded kike standards made by globohomo advertisements and media that makes young people feel insecure and like they're not living life properly or behind others. And there's constant horror shit pushed where if you go on the internet you're exposed to trannies, niggers, disgusting fetishes, gore, wars, mentally ill addicted people, and even media that's supposed to be more tame becomes degenerate like ASOIAF or HOTD whose main agenda is to showcase how europeans were disgusting immoral pigs and how bad it is to give birth for women or trust men. There's literally no coming back peacefully from the absolute kikeworld that was created. Brutal. A nuclear MAD WW3 reset could maybe bring a new life and rejuvenation, otherwise it's just over.
>>532744661Sure. If that thought gives you comfort, keep dreaming.
>>532744635This germ has a point. I met a actual hot tranny and he had his dong it was bigger than mine. Mutilating yourself would cause some serious mental problems.
>>532744588You have serious reading comprehension issues. Literal slaves were less suicidal than you- you are not being whipped, raped, tortured, or forced to do hard labor. They weren’t just told to kill themselves- they were murdered en masse.So why are you weaker than they are? Could it be that your issues stem from your mind and from the jewish poisons you consume? And that their issues stemmed from jewish kidnappers and human traffickers?
>>532743157I actually just read this study, and they measure mental health outcomes by trips to the therapist. As much as I'd love for it to represent worse mental health outcomes, it really doesn't.
>>532743157The only way this study could be made accurate is by going to an alternate timeline where those same people didn't transition and measure how happy they are and then compare the two timelines. Totally meaningless junk data
>>532744635Pretty much. Until we can grow people new bodies and transfer their brain over or some shit like that we need to start telling these people that they just have to do the best job playing the role they were born into that they can. Even when they don't feel like it. Just like everybody else.
>>532744481Yes....we have doctors who have all kind of pills...every colour.
>>532743600If it was up to me all trannies, faggots, jews and niggers outside of africa would get a bullet. You trooned out niggerfaggots are a blight on society.
>>532743157>>532743245>>532743547OP linked a "study" coauthored by Riittakerttu Kaltiala, a member of a pro-"conversion" torture group SEGM. In the "studies" this study in turn cites, there is a Trump government document (reference 19) laundered through anti-vaccine activist RFK Jr's HHS.The study is measuring one narrow proxy: specialist psychiatric contacts. There's no data on self-harm rates, suicidal ideation, patient satisfaction, identity congruence, or functioning. These are the outcomes trans people and clinicians actually care about most, and they're entirely absent. The paper's conclusions are thus far more sweeping than its data can support.The paper waves away minority stress theory by saying societal acceptance has increased so psychiatric rates should have fallen. But that's a simplistic reading. Trans visibility and social acceptance have increased unevenly, and increased visibility can actually increase exposure to discrimination and online harassment, not reduce it. The assumption that "more accepting society = less minority stress" ignores a lot of nuance.The paper also completely ignores the comprehensive Utah review of evidence supporting treatment:https://web.archive.org/web/20250525001504/https://le.utah.gov/AgencyRP/downloadFile.jsp?submissionId=287The authors of OP's paper intentionally ignored the Utah Review because it does not fit their anti-trans narrative. OP linked a garbage source. On the other hand, the comprehensive Utah Review was commissioned by Republican lawmakers, who one would not expect to yield such a positive result.
>>532744588When you cut off your dick what exactly are you being "freed" from?
>>532744251bruh sweden is a collectivist shithole where being outspoken like a normal american would get you ostracized and put on the mental suicide depression train (finland isnt much different)
>>532744956I assume you are required to go to therapy if they cut your dick off so it would makes sense that they go more than someone who is not required to go.
>>532745094>On the other hand, the comprehensive Utah Review was commissioned by Republican lawmakers, who one would not expect to yield such a positive result.It was commissioned by mutts, I'll trust the european study.
>>532745243>bruh sweden is a collectivist shithole where being outspoken like a normal american would get you ostracized and put on the mental suicide depression train (finland isnt much different)Yeah, it's great. Imagine being as degenerate as amerimutts.
>>532745094>no data on self-harm rates, suicidal ideation, patient satisfaction, identity congruence, or functioningOk but we know self-harm and harm to others is sky high in trannies from not-this-study
>>532745389collectivist complacence is worse and inhuman at its core.
>>532743157Most don't get surgery and you're full of shit. My only decline in mental health is from dealing with retards like you and that's it.
>>532743600So, theoretically, sure. I agree with you. Trans people are singled out, targeted, and so on. But at what point do we, as a society, say "Maybe it's time to stop mollycoddling you?" Like if you can't hack it, maybe you shouldn't? I have terrible anxiety. Like, to the point of having my insurance premiums go up because I've been to the ER multiple times because I thought I was having a heart attack. And nobody gives a shit. And I think that's correct. It's MY problem. I don't get to get special treatment for it (other than medication). If I have a breakdown at work, that's on me (it's why I no longer work in an office).
>>532744251>desistance rates for childhood "gender dysphoria" exceed 90%This is a misleading claim on the basis of aged studies from a time when children were defined as "transgender" if they were gender nonconforming or homosexual. Pic related is the updated definition that requires actual gender dysphoria. The previous diagnosis was called "gender identity disorder".https://register.awmf.org/de/leitlinien/detail/028-014>>532745316There is also a similar affirming conclusion from a coalition of medical associations in German speaking countries, called the "Association of the Scientific Medical Societies in Germany":https://register.awmf.org/de/leitlinien/detail/028-014That represents "more than 185 German medical societies" including in Germany, Austria and Switzerland:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_the_Scientific_Medical_Societies_in_Germany
>>532743157Honestly they were sick in the head before any operations. A healthy mind recognizes and accepts the body it resides in. Surgery doesn't fix mental illness. Therapy might
>>532745094Seeing as how OP's post literally has a segment that talks about self-harm rates, and the fact that you sound like a tranny yourself, I suspect that you are a delusional tranny, and what's more, I think you might be >>532743985using a VPN, judging from your incredibly similar writing style.
>>532744868There's no such thing as a hot tranny, the only reason you'd find a tranny hot is if you were to fetishize a mentally broken man being humiliated and sodomized. Trannies all inherently fetishize themselves and there's a reason why it's borderline impossible to find a tranny that doesn't make interracial / humiliation / sissy content that's centered around weakness and degeneracy. It's mentally ill and any toleration and promotion of it because you are guided by desire to denigrate or abuse someone just shows you have no ability to control your thoughts and have no awareness of the world or any intellectual capabilities. Just a disgusting subhuman animal at that point that there's no real reason not to put you down.
>>532745389No takesies backsies lmao.
>>532743157It's evil that they threw a couple generations of kids under the bus for this insanity. I hope the repercussions are draconian for enabling this.
>>532744848Interestingly summed up, memeflag.
>>532745789Well the Romans knew the hot power dynamics that is emasculating a man. The dude sucked my dick while I played video games. Shit was pretty cash.
>>532745531Nah, it's way better... you get less utter degens like trannies and pedos. In the US the pedos become presidents and everyone sucks their dicks.
>>532743660>>532743767Trans healthcare in Finland is monopolized by a single group of doctors, who reportedly assign masturbation "homework" to children: https://www.assignedmedia.org/breaking-news/transgender-youth-speak-about-finland-transpoliThis is abnormal for trans healthcare, hence can't be taken as representative regardless for other nations
>>532745963You are a faggot.
>>532745094If I took a gulp upon every reddit phrase in that post, I would get roaring drunk before reaching the middle paragraph.Neck yourself.And you lost, don't ever forget it.
>>532743157How could it possibly not be the case? Anyone with at least average IQ and any sort of ability to think would expect these results...You don't fit gender norms. You're not a masculine guy, or you're not a feminine girl. In the 90s we used to tell kids that that was fine and not to worry about it and that teenage years are always rough. Now i stead of giving them a reality check and telling them that life sucks less eventually, we "yes, and..." them.> Oh you're not a manly dude? You like theater, you hang out with girls, you like reading, you don't play sports? Well there's a very good chance we told you you were a boy at birth by mistake! You could very well be a female brain stuck in a man's body!So we go ahead and pump you full of feminizing hormones. So now instead of being a non conforming guy, you're a non conforming tranny; neither truly a guy nor a gal, but 100% mentally ill and everyone that isn't deeply woke knows it. Best part: you have two eyes and you see yourself in the mirror. You know you've already started down a path where you've done irreversible damage. Walking it back would mean being an even less manly man than before. Doubling down does the same thing and you know that you'll likely never pass, and even if you did somehow, you know deep down that you'll never feel like a woman. You know you're not a god damn woman.How the fuck is that supposed to result in a better mental state as opposed to making one more depressive and potentially suicidal?The only way it would is if you were truly deeply mentally ill; the kind of people who are true trannies and would genuinely be happier with a permanent surgical wound between their legs than with a dick. And those are rare. Most of the contemporary trannies in their teenage years are just kids who feel bad and inadequate in their skin like most of is fucking did in our teenage years. It doesn't take a fucking PhD to see this; it's basic god damn common sense.
>>532743157>mentally ill people adopting a mentally ill ideology makes them more mentally illThat's crazy! Seriously though, it's nice to see the transgender farce fall apart at the seems by its own contradictions.
>>532744537These are tracking pre and post-op trannies, anon. It's not a general sample, so it's not saying anything about real people. The number is way too low considering they're trannies. It's 100% in reality, excluding whatever is motivating them to transition (I'm not retarded enough to just label it all a fetish; I think it is for most, I think for most of the rest it's psychological damage. Whatever remains is likely a weird grab bag of edge case anecdotes that everyone wants to hold up as an example, when they're really just the exception).Anyway I don't think this study surprises a single person on /pol/.
>>532743157Is this surgery or hormones? HRT is mostly harmless outside of cancer risk and temporary impotency. Surgery is suifuel.
>BREAKING NEWS TRANNIES ARE MENTALLY ILLbasedthanks anons
>>532743987Slavery is not a form of ostracization.
>>532743600>treat them betterlol no
>>532746001The only important point they made is this:>the study is measuring one narrow proxy: specialist psychiatric contactsMeaning the study is pretty useless. If you sign up to have your dick cut off you must be talking with doctors and I can only assume they force you to agree to see a shrink as part of the deal.If you just go around telling everyone you are a woman no one forces you to see a psychiatrist.
>>532743157gender reassignement surgery or hormone pills only ?
>>532745963Kill yourself, disgusting faggot sodomite aberration.
>>532746433ikr
>>532743600The majority normal people have no reason to bend over backward their own welfare for a minority of mentally ill botched freaks.
>>532743157I have been doing my own study on trannies: there aren't any and you are easily distracted with salacious garbage. There are like 47 trans people in the world
>>532743157>Men who "transitioned" had a 6.19-fold decline in mental health.>Women who "transitioned" had a 2.52-fold decline.thats not what the study says. It tracks what % needed to psychiatric treatment before and after, not how crazy they were before and after.
>>532746432Doesn't matter. Even doing nothing more than using the opposite sex's pronouns results in worse mental health. Happiness and dishonesty never meet.
>>532743157cutting your cock off to become a mutilated freak loathed by womenfor trying to get into their panties makes you suicidal, who knew?
>>532744251>trap dozens of children with rusty chains in a dark basement with little nourishment for years>somebody noticed this and informed the police that some of the children managed to kill themselves due to this circumstance>cop refutes the selfish, abusive argument with "So they're using the threat of suicide to force others into their desired behavior pattern?"
>>532744326It's actually way worse than people think.Troon drugs and puberty blockers are GnRH agonists/antagonists (Leuprolide/Lupron, triptorelin, goserelin). These are the same medications used for androgen deprivation therapy (ADT) in prostate cancer patients and for treating precocious puberty in children. Sex hormones are critical for brain development during puberty.>Three years after treatment, the group as a whole had experienced a loss in both performance IQ and full scale IQ, with a decline of 7 points in the latter. While the average loss of IQ points was 7, it is noteworthy that at least one patient in this study experienced a significant loss of 15 points or more.>In animal studies, the results indicate that treatment with a GnRH antagonist/agonist has a detrimental impact on learning and the development of social behaviours and responses to stress in mammals. In male sheep, impairments in spatial memory associated with the treatment were not fully reversed following discontinuation of treatment. Significant effects of treatment were also evident on measures of brain structure including overall volume, functional connectivity, and neuronal density.https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/apa.17150>58 men starting ADT vs. 84 prostate cancer controls + 88 healthy men. Formal cognitive testing showed ADT patients were 70% more likely to have cognitive impairment at 6 months and more than twice as likely at 12 months. Men on GnRH analogues ± anti-androgens showed declines in verbal memory, visuospatial function, and executive function within months; ADT patients had clinically significant drops in at least one domain.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12175403/>ADT linked to worse visuomotor/visuospatial performance, verbal/visual memory deficits, and increased dementia/Alzheimer's risk (1.5-2.5x in some large cohorts)https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7489824/We're literally chemically lobotomizing kids.
>>532743157this isn't sciencethis is like mengele's science it's false and it's wrong!!!!!!
>>532745094>OP linked a "study" coauthored by Riittakerttu Kaltiala, a member of a pro-"conversion" torture group SEGMEvery single time.
>>532746001>making good arguments means you're Reddit4chan just got fucking mogged bro
>>532744673No, they are suicidal because they are extremely mentally ill. This is true even before they start trooning out. Trooning out however increases these risks significantly because mutilating your body will never make you happy. Fuck off with encouraging this, they've proven multiple times over that their suicide risk is sky high even with supportive families in supportive countries.
>>532746432I.... think they dont do surgery here? Or they do it only one way? I know a person who knows another tranny who went through the surgery like 3 times MtF, FtM and then back. They do give you the chemicals tho.
>>532746579But you are forced by Finnish Law to get into psychiatric treatment if you ever want to transition using the public healthcare system.
>>532745789>the only reason you'd find a tranny hot is if you were to fetishize a mentally broken man being humiliated and sodomized.Yes!
>>532743600This. Just let trannies groom and diddle and ultimately mutilate your kids and the issue is solved. Transphobes belong in the woodchipper
>>532746432>>532746888Oh yeah sorry, forgot to add he went to Estonia to do the surgeries.
>>532746594no, hormone replacement therapy typically increases their well being it reduces dysmorphiabut gender surgery is typically doomed from start. it's like 5% of trannies who do the surgery tho>>532746888dont know, probably not. must travel abroad if they want surgery perhaps
>>532744461Schizophrenia diagnosis is a rare case where your point is correct. Good evidence suggests people diagnosed with schizophrenia should be treated with skepticism by trans healthcare clinicians. This does not generalize to some other conditions such as autism however as has been suggested in the media.
>>532746801The entire assertion of the study is that trannys are bad because they're more likely to seek mental health care post transitioning with no reasonable way to account for how many of them needed mental health care before then and simply didn't seek it out. Given that they're trannys the numbers should likely be 100% before and 100% after. Its kinda a big fat nothing.
>>532743157>Men who "transitioned" had a 6.19-fold decline in mental health.>Women who "transitioned" had a 2.52-fold decline.Well maybe it should be encouraged, I mean you get ab use for trying to actual help them and telling them not to mutilate themselves, they are mental patients on the loose that scumbags have used to endager women and kids, so why not just encourage them at this stage since when they mutilate they then get rid of themselves. It's a win win. They don;t want to be helped and they want to die for their cult. Let them more than that if they are adults rush them to get castrated and steralised..
>>532747059>hormone replacement therapy typically increases their well being it reduces dysmorphiaWhat if you remove all their uppers and SSRis?
>>532746670But wouldn't this make sense? If someone is delusional, and you affirm their delusion, they would then be happier, no? Obviously children are happier when they get their way. Judging whether or not something is good for a childs long term health, mental and physical, by the fact that they are 'happier' is a very dangerous precedence. The study only proves that affirming young transgendered individuals beliefs make them happier in the short term, not whether or not it harm or helps in the long term.
>>532747059>it's like 5% of trannies who do the surgery thoWe need to up those numbers then.
>>532747059No, it doesn't. It increases "dysmorphia". You cannot reduce a delusion by leaning in to that delusion. If you feel uncomfortable in your body the solution is to change your comfort zone so that it includes your body, not for you to chase a different body, because you can never have a different body.
>be male>feel kinda feminine>like guys>start transitioning>loves to be fucked and to fuck men>cuts dick off>:(the ones who cut are retarded and the ones who are ugly and try to become a woman are even more retarded. You're either hot or you're not.
>>532743157Why jews do this?
>>532744673>instead of finding a method to break them out of it.Been trying for almost 200 years now. There is no "cure." It simply doesn't work that way.
>>532744618Psychiatric morbidity is the presence of mental conditions as diagnosed about the patient. A reason a trans patient may have elevated diagnoses after treatment is because they're seeing doctors more often now and hence have increased levels of medical surveillance in general, and more opportunities to be referred for unrelated treatments. This is a type of selection bias called surveillance bias. https://healthjournalism.org/glossary-terms/surveillance-bias-detection-bias/
>>532743600Why are troons equating buttsex in a dress to the black experience? Blacks are already zesty we have enough zest in this country
>>532745571>>532745243>>532744987>>532745094Nope. You will never be a woman. The studies have proven it. They have proven multiple times that you kill yourself more afterwards, not to mention the severe cognitive and physical effects (infertility, lowered bone density, heart issues, etc.)
>>532745094Found the tranny. Kys BTW
>>532746948You are so nonchalant and quirky. It's funny how you genuinely think things will always progress in one direction and that there's no chance of repurcussion where faggots and trannies like you will be hunted down like dogs for entertainment once there's a crisis and unrest big enough globally that requires a scapegoat and more people are exposed to your degeneracy and fetishes. Retarded ugly sodomite fuck.
>>532746010Literally this. The only way to stop this is to discourage it and make the negative effects public. This is killing people who would have otherwise been able to live.
>>532747384Which I'm sure they knew. I'm tired of this shit. Professional intellectual dishonesty should be a capital offense punishable by gassing.
>>532747280no the surgery is really bad idea, it does not work and comes with complications. only hormne therapy works.>>532747282those who start young will transforms enough. and they can get plastic tits etc. it can work for them if dysmoprhia is very bad, only solution
>>532743600So that's where the term tranny-nigger originated
>>532745407https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32072611/
>>532746125>HRT is mostly harmless>>532746719>>532746576I have 3 tranny cousins.
>>532747666It's not a solution at all. It makes it worse in every case, no matter how young you groom your victims. Living a lie is not a solution. You may as well be calling suicide a solution to depression, with how insane your responses have been.
>>532743600This jew right here. They don't care about proof, study, scientific results, etc. They will chop your son's dick, put him in a dress and fuck his ass, you like it or not. They are sick people.
>>532743157>Finngolians step outside of their sauna and see that the sky is blue behind the clouds as they sip their vodkaUh. Thanks guys. We already knew that but data is cool
>>532747868so they have physically different brains, which is half female half male. similar what gay men have for example, but even more so. lesser split = gay, 100% -50-50 split = transthat's why so many gay men act like girls, they are nearly trans but not fullydo fully trans have dysmorphia they actually feel like girl and that they are in wrong body because half of their brain is physically female, unlike regular men
>>532745094>Gender-referred adolescents exhibit elevated levels of psychopathology, particularly depression and anxiety. A systematic review of papers published by the end of 2020 concluded that among gender-referred adolescents, the prevalence of mental health problems—most commonly depression and anxiety—ranged from 22% to 78% [7]. Subsequent studies [8-12] have confirmed similar prevalences. Stop lying.
>>532747734What's truly astounding is blacks absolutely hate troons and are the poster race for TTD
>>532748041No they don't. I am an actual woman. You act nothing like us. You have male-pattern behaviors, hobbies, sexuality, and bodies. We do not and never will see you as a woman. Male to female transgenders, as shown by brain comparisons, have male brains, not female brains. It is impossible to have a male body and a female brain. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21467211/“The vast majority of troon prisoners, 85%, were convicted of violent crimes that caused death “or serious harm” to their victims (58% of whom were children or women).”https://torontosun.com/news/national/study-finds-nearly-45-of-trans-women-inmates-convicted-of-sex-crimes16% of trannies have been sent to jail or prison, compared to 2.7% of the general populationhttps://web.archive.org/web/20170117112828/http://www.avp.org/storage/documents/Training%20and%20TA%20Center/FORGE_Trans_People_Police_Incarceration_Facts.pdfTrannies were more likely to be associated with bullying others than the contrary.https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2020.612424/full#h449.6% (half) of trannies in prison have been convicted of sex offending.https://fairplayforwomen.com/transgender-male-criminality-sex-offences/48% of TIMs have been convicted of one or more sexual offenses vs. 19% of all prisoners are serving time for a sexual offensehttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42221629.ampMul D et al. (2001):https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11683207/In 25 girls treated with GnRHa for central precocious puberty, intelligence quotient levels decreased significantly (average ~7-point drop after 3 years of treatment).Cass Review Final Report (2024):https://cass.independent-review.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/CassReview_Final.pdf"The systematic reviews commissioned found the evidence base for puberty blockers, including effects on cognitive and neuropsychological development during puberty, to be insufficient".
>>532747849You posted a personal story by an activist posting on Twitter, as evidence about a medical treatment. That's okay, but it's not supported by evidence gathered over 40+ years. Puberty blockers were also used for precocious puberty, not just for gender dysphoria, so there is ample evidence about them."Puberty blockers have been used since the early 1980s": https://www.mcri.edu.au/news/insights-and-opinions/what-are-puberty-blockersSeveral other sourceshttps://www.physiology.org/detail/news/2024/04/05/study-bolsters-evidence-that-effects-of-puberty-blockers-are-reversible?SSO=Yhttps://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2024-07-17/puberty-blockers-what-are-they-and-why-are-they-in-the-newshttps://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-06/gender-affirming-care-still-safe-effective-and-reversible-review/104322428
>>532748544I already addressed precocious puberty you moronic troon.>>532746719Stop advocating for child lobotomization. The vast majority of them grow out of their discomfort. You will die before 40.
>>532744412What makes Jews so comically evil?
>>532744319
>>532748780Jews created and run the tranny industry. Teva (Israeli company) makes a large percentage of their drugs.
>>532743157This is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read in my life.Ongoing mental health treatment is a REQUIREMENT FOR TRANSITION IN FINLAND.They are measuring how many people are still going through transition three years later.So fucking stupid.
>>532746125>cancer riskFor e.g. MTF, an increase in breast cancer risk is parallel to a decrease in prostate cancer risk, so that itself is not well founded.
>gay man with dress up fetishhow the fuck are we even talking about this. how is this even a thing dude what the hell…
>>532748920The same exact drugs troons take are used for precocious puberty and prostate cancer patients. They have already proven that it causes significant mental decline in those groups. They even gave the drugs to sheep and saw the same effects, it caused cognitive decline. Troons pressure and harass people into removing critical information. It also explains why you all act like a retard.
>>532746801Philosophers indeed theorized even denying a gender identity is a form of torture behavior https://studyfinds.com/gender-unrealism-theory-why-desire-may-define-you/
>>532743600>Treat them better and they won't have so many issues.lol, lmao even kek.
>>532743600/pol/ BTFO.
you want a good girlbut you need the bad sissy
>>532743600Exactly. You're a nigger.
>>532749263Is this supposed to make us support you?
this is me looking for american daddy to sponsor for green card (but be ok with me participating in the public use bdsm scene)
>>532749039During the entire study period, ongoing mental health treatment was NOT a requirement for accessing transition in Finland. That threshold was introduced only in later national guidelines. It measured psychiatric treatment needs 2 years post-referral (not whether people were "still transitioning"). Psychiatric morbidity was already high before referral (45.7% vs. 15% in controls) and rose further afterward, especially among those who received medical gender reassignment (up to 60.7%)
>>532744326Seriously where did all go so wrong?
>>532749263The popularization of "gender identity" was made up by a pedophile who murdered two little boys. He wanted to prove gender was socially learned rather than innate/biological, and he FAILED. The boys, before they both killed themselves, went on Oprah to say that his study was a lie. You are repeating the claims of a child abuser because you are a child abuser.
>>532748522it is more male brain than female brain. but abnormal compared to regular men. that is why the behavior and dysmorphia. it would be cruel to deny hormone treatment for those few who actually have the dysmorphia
>>532749655based
rent free
>>532743600anon stop being reasonable on /pol/ dont make them tap the sign
fuck tha system
>>532749655show dick
>>532749950>ah but you see his failed experiment proves you can't force gender identity on people, therefore proving his experiment>>532750021What's cruel is allowing you to live
>>532745094Trannys have zero scientific credibility when they can't admit there are only two genders. Affirming an illness is the most insane medical idea I've heard. It's time to stop being crazy online and deal with your mental issues privately.
>>532743985Just kill yourself and get it over with. You know you want to. It’s not going to get better for you. Just end it. then you’ll be free.
inb4 some faggot says it's because people don't accept them.Europe is way more into trannies than USA is and has been since the 60s. they are the leading pushers of LGBT culture worldwide.You were still beaten and killed for being gay in USA as recent as like 2010s.Meanwhile there were poofters openly on the streets of Europe in like 1990.if there was any correlation between acceptance and happiness it would already have been shown as a correlation and it hasn't.the only real "happiness" rating that has ever been measured is that faggots are less likely to get divorced than straight or lesbian.which in itself has bad optics for their propaganda of female empowerment and they bury that shit every time.
>>532749655Imagine a bdsm party but it's feral blacks kicking and beating you into a bloody pulp
>>532743157PUMP THOSE NUMBERS UP!
>>532744319> The only thing that works on trannies mental health is antipsychotics High velocity lead transfusions work too
>>532747059>hormone replacement therapy typically increases their well beingJust no long term study demonstrates that.
>>532748522>>532748544>>532749263>Woman and autistic levels of knowledge on the tranny issueAre you from the farms?
>>532747847>0.8%>0.25%The suicide rate in the US is 0.015%
>>532743157I've spoken to a few trannies about the issues with surgeries etc especially the cut your dick off one and their response always eventually comes down to one thing.>It's necessary for the surgeons to fuck this up on others so that when it's MY turn they do it well.For all the preaching about community and family, they don't really care what happens to other troons or how many get fucked up or left in permanent pain or numbness as long as they get what THEY want in the end.
>>532743600Fuck you and drug induced fee-fees, troon.
I feel pity for the victims (trannies) and scorn for the perpetrators (jews)
>>532743157>sex is unfulfilling >organizing your entire life and identity around sex is unfulfilling someone shoulda told em
Voluntary sterilization has always been the goal.Early transition lowers the risk of Genes passing on before said sterilization
>>532743600Nope, they are gross. Shrimple as.
SRS is retarded even if you're a tranny. You're taking functional genitals and leaving yourself with a numb hole or a numb stump.
>>532750728Damn, 53 times more likely to kill yourself if you pretend to be a woman
>>532743157>wasn't compared against non-transitioning dysphorics
>>532743157>Psychiatric morbidityThats a fancy way to say.Faggots acting like faggots.And women acting like women.
>>532751166>dysphoricsThey don't care.They just got paid to write down the numbers.
>>532751091Well no, the totalality of suicides in the US would include the transexuals who kill themselves. So the odds are a smidge higher than that.
>>532743600Or Maybe cutting a 5 yr old’s dick off is bad.
>>532743600So fucking stupid. It has to do with the fact that 95% arent passing and are treated like the disgusting gross pieces of shit that they are. Because it looks unnatural. You know it. I know it. They/Xe/she/E knows it. Not to mention the disgusting gash wound they now call a vagina constantly leaking and reeking of actual SHIT!! The ftm trannies are unhappy because they realize they’re even less sexually desirable than they were as females. Thats what this whole thing revolves around for trannies. Sex. Not gender sex, but sex. Thats all they care about. And they realize they’re having/going to have a lot less of it because theyre actual abominations.
>>532743157Who gives a shit?
>>532744537It's queers only, right? I thought it's the same people before and after the trannzition
>>532744588You will never be a woman. You will never be happy. You will never pass. You will never find someone normal that is attracted to you. You're an evolutionary dead end and when you die, you won't be missed.
>>532748522>Trannies were more likely to be associated with bullying others than the contrary.What does it feel like to have such low self-esteem compared to a trans person then?
>>532744673>natural guilty associated with not doing what society expects of youDoesn't say anything about whether a thing is ethical or not.
>>532746853You're the one proudly posting reddit pics faggot. Nobody believes you
>>532744461Currently in the healthcare system with issues and they 100% push drugs first and foremost before even trying to understand why you're having these issues. It's extremely frustrating talking with some doctors too who just say "it's probably this. Maybe that." Without doing any due diligence. I had one doctor tell me that he thinks my issues are caused by fucking cancer and was talking about chemo. Right now it's just looking like it was a bursitis. What an insane diagnosis to make.
>>532752244
Fuck trannies, but it could also be we're living in the worst timeline.
>>532749817You need letters to get surgery and shit you stupid lying cunt.The average tranny is not done after 2 years.
>>532743600Nah fuck you! Jig is up cry bully nigger!
>>532743600>the most tolerant society in human history pays for them to transition>mental illness DOUBLES DOWNhow much better do they need to be treated?
Facts about trannies: -they have always existed-it's something people want-some few people out of millions are actually better off being transThis is why there's no cure, not a medical reason. There's a legitimate history, philosophy, psychology and art to cutting your dick off. Tranny drugs are so popular today that 80% of them aren't really better off, they're just chasing a better life or running away from the pressure of being a man. Does that mean they deserve to be criticized for their actions? No less than everybody else I guess.
>>532744537"It is no measure of health to be normal in a profoundly sick society"
>>532745789>the only reason you'd find a tranny hot is if you were to fetishize a mentally broken man being humiliated and sodomizedNo. I can find them hot as long as they look feminine. And some young ones actually do look more feminine than many women. Think of the women where people post the "That’s a man" meme.An other appeal is that women have a shit personality and trannies are a feminine body with male brain. Think best friend and gf in one.The problem is that i don’t think being a tranny is sustainable with age. I don’t think i’ve ever seen a good-looking old one. Maybe this is only something you can pull off as long as you’re young. That would mean that it’s not something that should be encouraged.
>>532745094kys tranny
>>532743157They recorded who actually died this time
>>532745094>College of pharmacy Gee I wonder if the guys who would be slanging them a cocktail of expensive drugs would ever have a profit motive there. No no no. I am sure it's fine
>>532743157>Why are "trans" activists suddenly silent?41% of them are already dead
>>532745608>If we change the definitions of word we will be right!
>>532745976Before ZOG we hanged them. That is like blaming Germans for weimar conditions
>>532743245FAKE! We know that ALL trannies have mental problems
>>532750716No. I'm not a feminist. I only visit here, I was uncomfortable when I tried to post on the farms, they kept saying I must be a man because I don't have their exact opinions or desires. They would equate pregnancy to having a parasite growing inside of them, and it made me feel ill.
We tried telling you retarded faggots many years ago but you called us bigots so whatever. Kill yourselves then, literally.
>>532747849>someone in my family rapes. A lotWe know
>>532752696They're rushed into surgery retard. This is said over and over and over again. This one was mutilated when she was just 13. https://x.com/i/status/2041592647585034381
>>532749263Those weren't philosophers. Philosophy rejects the notion of "gender" in the first place because gender isn't a philosophically sound concept. Philosophy builds on critical thinking, it doesn't allow people to invent things like gender or magic or unicorns.
>>532749263and philosophers aren't scientists, they are retards that wank around their own ass pull reasoning with no worry about what actually goes in reality.
Vitun homo :D
>>532743600Your problem is yourself, not everyone else.If you honestly think it is reasonable to demand everyone else on earth alter their behavior to accommodate you, then you are a malignant narcissist and that is why nobody likes you.You need introspection, not pills and surgery.
>>532748522Post vadge
>>532745094Look at all the people come out to defend the shitty study.
>>532745094>muh ad hominemno>The study is measuring one narrow proxyyou're assuming suicide/self-harm/etc have an inverse relationship with mental illness (they don't btw).even if self-harm goes down (questionable) but the mental illness remains (proven) then transition isn't working.curing the dysphoria would reduce mental illness AND self harm.>The paper waves away minority stress theory>Trans visibility and social acceptance have increased unevenly, and increased visibility can actually increase exposure to discriminationsee >>532753104how long will you be on this wild goose chase?>The paper also completely ignores the comprehensive Utah review of evidence supporting treatment"International group critiques Utah transgender review cited by congressional Democrats">Experts say review ignored key risks of youth transgender treatments>Utah's review left out key research and ignored important risks, the report found. >Utah’s review analyzed less than 40% of the eligible studies it mentioned>omitted important evidence reviews from the United Kingdom >excluded more than a dozen major clinical guidance documents>The studies that the review did include were not synthesized, evaluated for quality or checked for bias>The review also left out studies related to individuals who later wished to detransition>Utah’s review also failed to fully disclose potential conflicts of interest... most advisory members were affiliated with the university’s adolescent gender clinicnice source retardanyway if you did a review of pre-Galileo astronomy it'd find comprehensive evidence that the earth is the center of the universe. quality > quantity in science>OP linked a garbage sourcethe study has a sample size of an entire country and the best measure for such a large samplecope and seethe
>>532743157>Or are they afraid to face the truth: that they've harmed the very people they tried to help?Or, darker still, are they convinced that a person who has the desire to become a transgender, that it is better that they become more depressed and possibly end up committing suicide, over not being able to be who they believe they really are? Are they this fanatical and warped in thinking? The answer is yes I believe.
>>532754584
>>532747849Puberty supression is not the same as hrt in adulthood you stupid right wing bootlicking cuck. Go die for israel
WOW WHAT A FUCKING SURPRISEQUICK TELL THE GRAND PUMBA
>>532743600This is stupid. No one likes me and I’m doin great.
>>532749263>>532754486"Gender identity" is not a thing. John Money's murderous pedophilic experiments were proven wrong by the very boys he killed. All we have is biological sex. Your sex does not determine your hobbies, your fashion, your roles, your personality, or anything else. Gender is a meaningless restriction defined as one's sex."Woman" comes from "Wīfmann" which specifically and exclusively used to denote a female human: the sex that produces large gametes.
>>532743157ONENOTHING WRONG WITH METWONOTHING WRONG WITH METHREE NOTHING WRONG WITH MEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKK-LET THE TRANNIES HIT THE FLOORLET THE TRANNIES HIT THE FLOORCUT MY DICK AND BOTH MY BALLSLET THE TRANNIES HIT THE FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
>>532755086Exactly. Meaning there has never been and never will be ever a philosopher who engages with the notion of gender or gender identity. Because all critical thinking precepts in existence prevent it. Anyone who refers to "gender identity" as if it exists is a quack and nothing more.
>>532753118Yeah we know that mental illness has always been a thing.
>>532743157Correlation is not causation. Without a control group you can't draw conclusions from this information.
>>532750068No matter how nice and affirmative you force people to be, you will always be your father's son>>532750068
>>532754904Israel is a huge manufacturer of tranny hormones (Teva pharmaceuticals) and Jewish people (Pritzker family) currently control the trans industry. You are a kike product and "the science" you worshipped no longer supports you.Your self-ID as a "woman" is based entirely on how socially maladjusted men think women behave, because you have no other frame of reference as to what a woman is. You see women as mere constructs defined by stereotypes like pink dresses, painted nails, or liking Barbie. It's effectively no different than blackface.You are a corrupted degenerate autogynephilic nerd on drugs. Your perceived womanhood is artificially concocted by laboratories and morally depleted butchers. Your identity is forged from fake papers produced in false offices and broadcasted to you by Israeli-funded ideologists whose goal was not to imbue you with womanhood but to use you for profit for the rest of your life.
>>532743157Why isn't the initial number not 100% when you think you should butcher your own body
>>532755262DENY ITONCE MORECANT TAKENO MORE
>>532750128>If I invert observable reality, I win!
>>532743157A mental health decline after chopping your dick off? Shocking.
>>532743600>Give me what I want and I won't hurt you
>I'M A MAN IN A DRESS AND LINGERIE, GIVE ME FREE PILLS AND LET ME TALK TO YOUR KIDS ABOUT TITS, DICKS, PUSSIES, AND ASSHOLES USING CUTE-SOUNDING EUPHEMISMS OR I'LL KILL MYSELF AND MAKE YOU FEEL SORRY FOR ME!
>>532755393>Without a control groupit's the entire population, that is the control group
>>532743600this is the equivalent of>hood niggers / gypsies doing crime? just give them more moneyin reality they use that money to do even more crime, bother even more people, and corrupt even more children>>532745094>all those billions of dollars going into the LGBT lobby and all I could come up with is this wall of textlol
>>532754466So weird how this only happens to single mothers huh?I am sure that it's just a Cohencidence
>>532746579you know how much psychiatric treatment a normal person needs, during his or her lifetime? ZERO. that's how much.
>>532755807IM THE MANIN THE DRESSSHOVE MY NOSEIN SHITWONT YOUCUM INSIDE ME
>>532743157>WHADDYA MEAN IT WAS A JEWISH PLOY TO DECREASE BIRTHRATES??
>>532743600Slaves were offered a free trip back to liberia and they refused. Funny you would choose that to hone in on.
>>532756084according to longitudinal studies in pic rel children (irrespective of race and gender) had a better life outcome when raised by a single father than being raised by a family or a single mother (which was worst outcome)yet in many countries the judiciary "awards" the children to the mother automaticallycohencidences keep mounting!
>>532743767>the state of tranny gender care in this country is ugly afit's some of the "best" in the world
It’s amazing how shit like this is inherently known by everyone yet “THE SCIENCE” will not accept it until a retarded study survives being shot down by ten layers of liberal peers
>>532756543>yet in many countries the judiciary "awards" the children to the mother automaticallyI mean in case of a divorce, if that was not obviousdon't even start me on children raised by grandparents, that basically started all the "gen x circus" we are living in now, plus the industrial production of faggots
>>532743767>>532743985you always have some excuse when every study finds the same shityou are baseline insane and transitioning literally makes you people less happy because you find out the ugly truth that even if you spend tens of thousands on surgeries you will never actually be or look like the opposite sex
>>532743985>thinks a study is flawed without reading it because he expects it will debunk his subjective experiencemeds
>>532748780They're effectively a matriarchy.Their men are born, mutilated and then ground to dust by their overbearing mothers and thus take after them.It's no coincidence that women, jews and communism all share the same values or that jews are the reason feminism exploded in the west.You see Jews, like women, cannot physically defend themselves or have any real physical power. They're too weak and too hated in the world to ever stand up for themselves so there's major parallels between how a woman operates and how a jew operates.Thus they, like women, took up traits that allowed them to survive by being subversive like a woman. Traits like being consensus creatures to socially manipulate to their own ends, being able to shapeshift and play all sides, wanting multiculturalism because if people are dealing with invaders they arent dealing with you, the ruthless lack of empathy like for the unborn, just being able to just lie and cheat with no guilty conscious.Jews are just women with a man's power and women are the kikes of gender.
>>532755393>Correlation is not causation. The best research on gender-affirming care among adolescents found no mental health improvement and the most pronounced increases in mental healthcare for adjustment, anxiety, mood, personality, psychotic disorders, and suicidal ideation/attempted suicide. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34247956/Dr. Riittakerttu Kaltiala, Finnish adolescent psychiatrist and pioneer of gender clinics, concluded from clinical experience that gender-affirming care harms more than helps adolescents. “Sometimes the young people insisted their lives had improved... But as a medical doctor, I could see that they were doing worse.” https://thefp.com/p/gender-affirming-care-is-not-the-solutionStudies presenting the benefits of sex reassignment to mental health, including suicide prevention claims, are low or very low quality and rely on biased methods. These treatments do not meet Generally Accepted Professional Medical Standards and are experimental. https://archive.ph/BfjlXMississippi review of evidence agrees with the Florida review of evidence. https://scribd.com/document/626078240/Mississippi-Review-of-EvidenceOver 50 percent of Canadian gender clinics per WPATH data require no formal psychological assessment before prescribing puberty blockers or hormones. https://transyouthcan.ca/results/wpath-surveyThe Cass Review 2024 the most comprehensive independent review of gender identity services for children and young people found the evidence for puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones is weak and of poor quality. Blockers do not improve gender dysphoria or body satisfaction, compromise bone density, show insufficient evidence of mental health benefits, and nearly all youth proceed to hormones without a pause to think. It recommends against routine use and a holistic approach instead. https://cass.independent-review.uk/home/publications/final-report/
>>532745094>laundered through anti-vaccine activist RFK Jr's HHS.You speak of this like a Christian speaks of devil worshipers. Cow dung injection to a hindu - how do you presume they would treat it? Can you even list the ingredients of the injections? No? Oh, but they must be taken... Fuck off.
>>532757063Adjusted Odds Ratios revealed significantly higher odds of ever experiencing suicidal ideation in those who planned to transition.https://liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/lgbt.2020.0231Gender-Affirming Surgery Leaves People Lonelier and Depressed, Study by Transgender Surgery Department Chairman Finds. https://dailysignal.com/2023/06/02/transgender-surgery-leaves-people-lonelier-depressed-study-by-transgender-surgery-department-chairman-finds/The FDA added a warning that gender-affirming drugs can cause dangerous brain swelling treatment may also interfere with rational decision-making. https://thepostmillennial.com/maker-of-puberty-blockers-funded-the-dutch-study-that-kicked-off-gender-affirming-care-for-kidsA pharmaceutical company that marketed triptorelin as a puberty blocker funded the original Dutch study that led to gender-affirming care for minors. https://tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/26895269.2022.2108353 https://genspect.org/the-dutch-model/Gender services for minors expanded rapidly in Australia despite limited evidence Queensland plus 485 percent 2017-2022 Victoria plus 273 percent 2019-2023. The gender-affirming model requires clinicians not to question unstable gender identity even with severe mental illness. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10398562241289488
>>532743157IVE GOT ANOTHER CONFESSION TO MAKEI GOT JEWEDIM FUGLY AND MY PENIS ACHESCAUSE ITS REMOVEDTHINKIN ID BE A BETTER WOMANNNNBETTER THAN YOUI THINK IM GONNA REGRETREGRETREGRETGETTING FUCKED BY DUDES
>>532757287The European Society of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry states providers must not promote experimental transition treatments with unproven effects and must follow first do no harm. Puberty blocking harms psychosocial development due to unstable gender dysphoria diagnosis in children. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00787-023-02303-0Gender medicine for children rests on shaky foundations. https://bmj.com/content/385/bmj.p1662Pediatrician debunks the myth that puberty blockers are reversible. https://archive.ph/9KHXYLupron used for chemical castration of sex offenders is also used as a puberty blocker. https://archive.ph/x8Q0XA 2003 New England Journal of Medicine study found Lupron caused osteopenia and excessive bone loss in some children with lifetime fracture risk outweighing benefits. https://archive.ph/H0JfdTriptorelin used to castrate sex offenders is also used as a puberty blocker. https://tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0092623X.2010.498375Puberty blockers are irreversible due to negative impacts on bone density and child growth. https://binary.org.au/new_studies_prove_puberty_blockers_are_not_reversible/Puberty blockers do not alleviate negative thoughts in gender-dysphoric children and instead reduce height and bone strength. https://bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n486Puberty blockers significantly decrease bone density. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32832823/Puberty blockers negatively impact bone mineral density especially at the lumbar spine. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34497118/Puberty blockers have a negative impact on bone mineral density especially at the lumbar spine. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36048500/Pubertal suppression decreases growth and height velocity. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34315674/Leuprorelin, a puberty blocker, very negatively affects cognitive ability in developing children’s brains. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12175403/
>>532743157Some personal anecdotal evidence of mine is that I think it's mentally healthier for me to decide not to transition, even if dysphoria exists I still have enough autonomy over my head to ensure it doesn't take too much control. But many troons only think of the simple solution without thinking about any of the deadly social consequences it gives. This is the reason why I have a problem with the culture of trannies; I'm not trying to present some special case of myself here. They bring so much of this shit onto themselves, lots of you are right about that.A lot of the reason why Transgender culture has failed so horribly is because a lot of their common politics are deeply correlated with dialectical materialism. Marxists call certain economic expenditures fetishistic and decadent while being hypocrites, and leftist troons could not be a better example of this (and their only response is "Communism is when no iPhone"...). They want to resolve any of their issues through the dialectical principle of negation, negating conservative culture, negating whatever trans girl who doesn't look female enough to do better, negating any kind of expression that doesn't fit their own a priori definitions of gender, negating this this and that... They want to affirm the rest of minority culture without enabling themselves to develop a heterodox view. What a great place for a dysphoric person to settle, they totally won't be condemned. Some might say "Yeah but only Marxists do that!", but this behavior still reproduces itself across their culture regardless of retaining this political context. If I decided to go for the painless option that plenty of dishonest and limited research has laid upon me, and I end up only having retarded troons reinforcing this moral geneaology onto me all the time while having nearly no other option of companionship, of course I'd either be extremely alone or sacrifice my soul to the common good. Surely that isn't painless or deadly lol
>>532757483The NHS reversed its claim that puberty blockers are fully reversible and now lists extensive side effects for blockers and cross-sex hormones including infertility. https://spectator.co.uk/article/the-nhs-has-quietly-changed-its-tune-on-puberty-blockers/Boston Children’s Hospital claimed puberty blockers are completely reversible while its director admitted they cause infertility. https://breitbart.com/health/2022/10/31/boston-childrens-hospital-claims-puberty-blockers-completely-reversible-director-admits-cause-infertility/Over 25,000 adverse reports including 1,500 deaths exist for Lupron products it is the top prescribed puberty blocker for gender transition despite lacking FDA approval for that use. https://coreysdigs.com/health-science/lupron-and-the-25000-adverse-event-reports-fda-failure-to-warn/Hormone therapy in youth showed no statistically significant mental health improvement but increased suicidal ideation self-harm and suicide attempts. https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/150/2/e2021056084/188709/Suicidality-and-Depression-in-Transgender-YouthCross-sex hormones alter the brain creating the illusion of trans brains in research. https://eje.bioscientifica.com/view/journals/eje/175/4/R199.xmlNo significant difference in depressive symptoms or psychological adjustment between MtFs with and without hormonal treatment. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/6667109Obesity rates rise sharply after starting hormone therapy transwomen 25 percent to 30 percent transmen 39 percent to 52 percent. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34400797/Exogenous estrogen in MtF transsexuals increases breast cancer risk. https://ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25415740A review of 14 studies on depression/suicidality found hormone/surgery treatments mostly ineffective one large study showed significant negative changes. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/cobi.12378
>>532757594Cross-sex hormones did not improve functioning or relieve psychiatric comorbidities in gender-dysphoric adolescentshttps://tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/0092623X.2016.1228552Gender-affirming surgery linked to 1,200 percent higher suicide attempt risk versus no surgery emergency visits and 470 percent higher versus sterilization procedures. https://cureus.com/articles/201516Danish long-term follow-up found sex reassignment surgery over 32 years did not improve mental illness rates and may have negative effects. https://tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.3109/08039488.2011.628952Depression and anxiety levels remain do not improve after sex reassignment surgery. https://tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0092623X.2016.1228552CMS analysis of 33 studies on sex reassignment surgery found results inconsistent and negative in the best-designed studies.https://cms.gov/medicare-coverage-database/view/ncacal-decision-memo.aspx?proposed=N&ncaid=282No improvement in psychological functioning six months post-surgery. https://tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0092623X.2016.1228552Longitudinal study sex reassignment surgery has no positive effects on quality of life. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29128275/Post-operative group showed higher depression and lower relationship satisfaction versus pre-op. https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2001-03048-001University review of more than 100 studies shows no robust evidence that gender reassignment surgery is clinically effective. Many remain distressed or suicidal. https://theguardian.com/society/2004/jul/10/health.medicineandhealthSex reassignment does not improve psychopathology rates. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11089727/Mental illness rates among trans people remain high at all transition stages. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15865950/Sex reassignment surgery is not the treatment of choice and shows progressive psychological dysfunction. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3998721/
>>532756891that wouldn't even be a big problem... the BIG problem is that it spilled over into midwits to form communism, and now a huge contingent with heavy hitting power (i.e. could defend itself) also behaves like that and already developed the next iteration: the LGBT trooperthe ultimate irony is that communists (Jew 2.0) and LGBT faggots (Jew 3.0) in their default state hate the Jews, even though most hide the fact because of the feminine behavior
>>532743600Trannies mob so its ok to teach them their place in society.
Someone needed to write a horror story about transgenderism.After spending so much time on the internet, I've become immune to practically anything, but when I see the accounts and photos of the horrors of transgenderism, I feel a visceral revulsion, an intense disgust.It's one of the few things that still "trigger" me.
>>532743600How about you treat yourselves better first?
>>532757833Sex reassignment surgery not associated with better quality of life or mental health. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23943260/Trend of worsening well-being over 5-year follow-up post-surgery. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28603386Cross-sex hormones not linked to better mental health FtMs on hormones scored worse on pain and mental health. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25270637/Post-sex-reassignment transsexuals have higher risks of mortality suicidal behavior and psychiatric morbidity surgery may not suffice as treatment. https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885Swedish 30-year follow-up suicide rate 20 times higher 10-15 years post-surgery. https://thepublicdiscourse.com/2015/06/15145/20 percent discontinuation rate, 18 percent complication rate, 37 percent out-of-target hormone levels during treatment. https://mdpi.com/2227-9032/10/1/138Transgender surgery provides no mental health benefit. https://thepublicdiscourse.com/2020/09/7129615 years post-operation quality of life lower in general health role physical and personal limitations. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18990387/47 percent dependent on social support post-surgery versus 41 percent pre-surgery. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9075286/50 percent complication rate, 14 percent major/severe for vaginoplasty. https://bjui-journals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1046/j.1464-410x.2001.02240.xPeople undergoing trans surgery had 12.12-fold higher suicide attempt risk 3.47 percent versus 0.29 percent. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38699117/Follow-up of 17 transsexuals 5-20 years post-op most MTFs showed deteriorated quality of life, high welfare dependence, sexual dysfunction, anxiety/depression/addiction, and regret. FTM results slightly better but still poor.https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9789272/
>>532758030they are the horror storyno need for fictionlies are their tools, don't make them yours
>>532758131Long-term observation of post-sex-change patients, expectations unfulfilled with somatic sexual social and severe psychologic complications including regret and suicidal thoughts. Surgery is counterproductive.https://tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.3109/08039488.2011.628952May 2023 study social transition of children has no significant positive effect on mental health.https://archive.ph/ajE3kSocial transition does not improve mental health outcomes in gender-dysphoric children. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33081539/Trans-identifying people with dementia often revert to biological sex and express dismay over altered bodies showing biological sex identity is more stable than transgender identity. https://web.archive.org/web/20230804131538/https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10405788/>But their lives are in danger.Yes, from pushing this as care.Only 32 transgender people killed in the US in 2022 murder rate about 2 per 100,000. https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/transgender-people-killed-us-2022-103000000 https://archive.ph/gWto2General population murder rate was 6.45 trans people about 3 times less likely to be murdered. https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-murder-rates-us/The overall homicide rate of transgender individuals was likely to be less than that of non-trans individuals. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28727530/ https://archive.ph/2fNjDear troons, please refute every single study I have posted.
>>532757552You're intelligent for not letting it convince you to go through with this shit. The ideology is going to continue to collapse in the next few years. It has no future. Attitudes towards "transgenderism" have swung significantly to become majority negative. Compare this to the fight for gay/lesbian marriage, that was a sustained and uninterrupted shift towards approval. This is not that.I was incredibly masculine in my youth, with boyish behaviors and hobbies. I wished I could join the boys when we were lined up by gender in school. If I had been born later, I might have thought I needed to mutilate myself to be happy. Troon ideology is retarded pseudoscience. It implies that we were "born wrong" for not fitting into "gender roles" (stereotypes like what people like to wear). They define gender by those things. The solution to distress was never trying to be someone you aren't, or drugging yourself for life, but breaking down the stereotypes that confine you. That way you get tomboys and femboys who feel alright as they are.The troon movement has destroyed those of us who don't fit in. We were doing well with helping people with sex-atypical hobbies feel alright with themselves. And then this came along and ruined it. It set us back decades. It sold people a lie that they could never achieve. They told so many people their parents hate them for trying to protect them. They ruined so many families. What is wrong with a boy who likes "feminine" things like pink or long hair or cooking? Why does he need to cut himself up to be "a girl"?They try so desperately to reach children early so that they don't even have a chance to get used to the way they were born. Fuck the psychopathic "medical professionals" who mutilate people for money.
>>532745094So, trust the science, unless it could be associated with people you disagree with politically or poses arguments antithetical to your personal opinion, right? Have you ever heard the expression "science thrives on skepticism"? You are supposed to consider things you agree with and disagree with on equal footing. Otherwise, you are not being scientific.
>>532758159Fiction is powerful when it reveals the consequences of ideas to people who cannot see very far ahead. Greek tragedies have survived to this day because they illustrate the consequences of certain beliefs, feelings, moral dilemmas in times of crisis. This is fundamental to human beings, it's directly linked to culture and civilization.A book about the horrors of transgenderism would be interesting, especially if it were written from the perspective of liberal and tolerant parents. I keep trying to imagine, for example, the reaction of a liberal father who supports LGBT rights and votes for left-wing parties, upon entering his son's room and seeing him dressed as a woman while sucking some degenerate's cock. I can't imagine there's a single leftist son of a bitch in this fucking world who could reconcile something like that with a supposedly moral ideology.Transgenderism is one of the clearest signs of total degeneration. Virtually every value a civilization could hold must be extremely corrupted for something like this to be taken seriously in the first place. No wonder the concept is Jewish, a people who are anti-civilization...The fact that there aren't numerous works of fiction depicting the insane consequences of transgenderism shows that our elite are no longer even capable of identifying their own ruin, let alone reflecting on it.
>>532745094There was a tranny at Subway last night. I wanted a sandwich, but decided not to get one. I was still going to get one for my son. Then the Tranny went all unhinged that the customer didn't let it put the sauce on before the veg. I laughed and walked out. It yelled sir as I left. I contained myself and didn't say anything back. All trannies are mentally ill. We all know it. We don't need a study to tell us this.
>>532743600tsmt xister
>>532759150if you could write something approaching the level of a greek tragedy, you wouldn't have written a wall of text but a two paragraph fable to prove your point (and maybe even disprove mine)but you didn't and you won't, because you can'tall you can do is give munition to the LGBT retards, so I beg of you, please abstain
>257 posts>no webm of the champion tranny figure skater from Suomi
>>532759589did it rope yet?>i forgot about thisi hate it and troons, more now than ever…