All murderers should be executed.I was reading Batman: Hush the other day, and there's one part when Batman gets his hands on the Joker, he sees the Joker standing over the body of someone close to him, and he starts beating up the Joker and is committed to killing him. He thinks about everyone that the Joker has hurt. He shot Barbara Gordon and put her in a wheelchair, he beat Jason Todd to death, and that's just a drop in the bucket compared to all the harm this man caused. But then Catwoman and Jim Gordon show up and stop him.Jim Gordon literally tells Batman that if he kills the Joker, he's no better than the Joker. Jim Gordon, whose wife was killed by the Joker and whose daughter was put in a wheelchair and sexually assaulted by the Joker, tells Batman that he will bring Batman to "justice" if he does this. Batman asks Gordon how many more lives they're going to allow him to ruin, and Gordon says "I don't care. I won't let him ruin yours."To me, this is simply perverse. Killing the Joker would be a morally good thing. There is literally no downside to killing him. He is evil, he deserves to die, and if you don't kill him, he's just going to hurt more people. And Batman and Jim Gordon know this, so I would actually say that if they have the opportunity to kill Joker and choose not to, they are responsible for everything Joker does going forward.Fuck Batman. A true hero would kill the Joker.
Yes.Also, >>>/co/
>>532768433Yeah, Batman is gay because he doesn't kill murderers.
>>532768433I agree that Joker should be killed. But it's just a story and Joker is an interesting villain. That's really why he's still alive.
>>532768433>To me, this is simply perverse.That's one way of putting it, but it's just propaganda to prevent the "second" holocaust and other Nazi things like eugenics.>evil people want to stay aliveObviously allowing them to do so is in itself evil.Does killing evil people make you evil? No, it makes you good, and that is bad. They want to continue fucking kids.
>>532768433checked
>>532768433It's typical millenial/gen Z writing. "Don't be a killer and don't be a meanie, be friendly and understand why people are bad!"It's why I don't consume any piece of pop culture after the late 90s at the latest.
>>532768433Joker is a literal subhuman terrorist who deserves to be curb-stomped in an alley
>>532769027Childhood is idolizing Batman. Adulthood is realizing the Punisher makes more sense.
>>532768433In Joker 2 the Arkham guards gang raped the joker and cured him so know all jokers have been raped across the DC multiverse and all joker posters are zesty and peculiar.
>>532768433>I was reading Batman: Hush>american literature
>>532768433It's jewish propaganda to disarm whites. And when whites inevitably want to destroy jews for all of their evil and crimes, they'll remember these retarded comics and stupidly decide "I shouldn't kill him cUz Id bE JuSt As bAd huR DUr".Bad people, especially murderers, should be executed once convicted. It's not noble or honorable to forgive and show mercy. It's just stupidity.
>>532768433This is what would happen to Batman if he kills a bad person
>>532769510Everyone that was killed because he didn't kill bad people would still be alive (unless unforeseen circumstances, i.e. car accident, natural disaster, etc.) were to occur.
>>532769027I was gonna post this. This was easily the most infuriating plot twist, even if I fully understand why it needed to happen. "You can't do that because then you'd be as bad as him, wah wah wah!". Fuck off, you leather clad fetish suit homo! WW2 nazi war criminals were executed for a fucking reason! Too dangerous to be allowed to live. Frank should've showed a hand grenade up your ass and pull the pin!
>>532768433>>532768936>author>Jeph LoebWhat a suprise!
>>532769702>WW2 nazi war criminals were executed for a fucking reason!KYS kike faggot.
I used to think/remember that batman got the no kill rule only after ww2 to overcompensate. Because when batman comics started, he would go in guns blazing and say lmao while killing criminals. But it seems the no kill rule was already in place in 1940 so like after one year of the comics.I guess the most "sane" lore reason why batman doesn't kill is that he figures if he starts doing so then he loses control. For someone like superman this makes more sense because superman could probably kill everyone on earth if he started and didn't stop. The practical reason is that if you keep killing the super villains then you have to constantly invent new ones or resurrect them.
>>532769689Not really because Batman would kill them. Only criminals may kill the innocent and stay so pure.
>>532769689Yes but him and everyone in gotham is insane or at least has serious personality flaws which affect their thinking.
My morality is based on the NAP and killing the Joker is righteous violence.
>>532769069I didn't know the people writing batman who were adults 100 years ago were millenial/gen z.
>>532768433In anime, they usually kill the bejesus out of the bad-guys.Why I left capshit
>>532768433Bruce is as crazy as he is and all that stands between them is Bruce's inner lines, he starts crossing those and he's all out just a relatively sane Jokerhe's constantly doing shit on his own that has people in the JL questioning whether he's even good or badGordon knows Bruce crossing those internal lines of his is a way worse outcome
>>532769702>Too dangerous to be allowed to live.You're making them sound kinda based.There's an important question arising from that statement:>dangerous to WHOM?And they weren't dangerous after they lost. Real life isn't some comic book where Hitler escapes from jail each time he's caught, 50 times, and creates a new Nazi Germany.Instead they were executed because they did something the other party didn't like.
>>532769145Executions are immoral if the society has the means to put someone away for life. They’re acceptable if that is not feasible like the country is too poor to take care of someone properly. This emotional desire to punish or get revenge is medieval. The duty government holds to society is to prevent harm any further becomes tyrannical. God created these people not us.
>>532769510Bro that's not even batman
>>532769994They WERE kikes though
>>532769977But then you give Jokerphiles a reason to kill you in turn!>an eye for an eye leaves everybody blindIn a world totally without objective morality, conscience and reason that is.
>>532770098TLDR SOMEONE should fucking kill the guy, but it can't be BruceGordon should have shot him himself
Wow,Jew comic telling you not to kill the bad guys,I wonder why
>>532770212>Executions are immoral if the society has the means to put someone away for life.So they can continue to parasitize the innocent.
>>532770236Bro you're not even human.
>>532768433Yea but from a narrative position he is Batmans nemesis, if he doesnt have joker he needs a new raison d’etreHe already got Joe Chill and came back from being taxed by bane, every time joker dies its to emphasise batman losing his cool and letting him die/killing him inadvertently. He has this debate with himself often. Personally I like how it was handled in Arkham city best but in that game he was dying anyway so.. meh
>>532770212I think it is deeply immoral to keep murderers alive and feed them three meals a day, paid for by taxpayers who don't have a choice. The families of their victims are having money taken from their paychecks to provide for the murderer. It's sick.
>>532770243yeah this doesn't seem to be even a debate that at least superman, batman and spiderman were 100% jewish. that being the case means that jews can despite everything sometimes write kino
>>532770212That's quite an exceptional level of bait.From the perspective of extreme vengeance, sure.>better to torture someone for decades, with no hope of relief>instead of mercy killing them painlessly for the good of society
>>532770309see;>>532769372
>>532770368Are you retarded? Did you not understand what I'm saying?
>>532770452Exactly , it's all Jewish and gay
>>532770251Or lock him in and let him starve?>inb4 people somehow have an obligation to feed incarcerated mass murderers they have nothing to do with
>>532769162Movies aren't canon.
>>532770112>>532769818Feel how you feel about dem j00s, but wasting millions of children, people still too young to choose their beliefs and who and what to follow, deserves you a place in the shittiest pits of Hell. They deserved a chance that the Nazi leaders robbed from them.
>>532768936/thread
>>532770014True Characters in Berserk who die tend to stay deadSame with Kaiji.. Increases the agency but I guess its not as fluent for comic books because they usually have enclosed stories and not an arc
>>532770498Doesn't matter. You're jewish. No one should ever listen to anything demons like you say.
>>532769372but whites only fall for this kind of propaganda because whites are already inclined to often do the right or "right" thing even if it takes more effort and sacrificeI have this head canon that these comic book writers are not simply mocking goyim but they find characters with this kind of psyche fascinating even if it goes to ridiculous limits sometimes
>>532770526Though I am confused by the logical sentiment shown here. Are you a tourist in israel for some reason? Or an odd breed of demon?
>>532770596Holy shit The Darkest Knight is a powerful, evil version of Batman from the DC Comics Dark Nights: Death Metal series. He is the final form of The Batman Who Laughs, created when his consciousness was transferred into a body containing the near-omnipotent powers of Dr. Manhattan. He is a sadistic combination of Batman and Joker, aiming to reshape the multiverse
>>532770644Bobby Fischer
>>532768433Batman is controlled opposition.
>>532770567>what is Gaza
>>532770531I'm thinking about the dark knight movie where joker is in custody and batman gets frustrated because joker can't be threatened with pain or beatings, finewas just thinking that he could still break his arms and legs so he was not able to jump around fighting people and holding anyone hostage
>>532768433Yes.The batman v joker discourse only worked when people believed in the justice system. It was always >The justice system may be slow, and not always right but we're giving the people fair judgement Now that the mainstream knows the entire system is to NOT do that, but actively work against the people and protect vested interests, the joker no longer works as a villain.
>>532768433The idea with batman was that he has a strong sense of Civic ethics, not that he's horrified by the prospect of killing.Batman believes that the people you hurt (the public as a whole not individual victims) deserve the right to decide your fate, and that he exists to bring people beyond the reach of their victims into their power.By killing the villain, he feels he'd be robbing you of your chance to decide what happens to him.This is incompatible with infinite serialization of stories, and incompatible with "modern values" so it was warped into "Batman's scared of people dying".In the animated series, Batman tells a child murderer that he wishes it was his job to give him what he deserves, before turning him over to the police. It's implied the police or other prisoners killed that guy almost immediately afterwards.
>>532770681Hm. A traitor to your own kind. Yet, a rare instance where I don't mind that.
>>532770567I don't mean to say it was universally wrong to kill them, not least because they fucked up and lost. That deserves some punishment.Now if we consider they also were responsible for a lot of civilian deaths.. that earns you a trip to the other side.You can sacrifice innocent people, but then better some good result from it.>no pain, no gainThey played a dangerous game.But they weren't executed because they might do it again; there were other ways to prevent this.
>>532770531the whole insanity bit is this idea it's "not his fault"under those kind of conditions it's liek a rabid animal, you just shoot it and be done with it, no call for being cruelsuppose it depends on whether you consider him sane or not, the depiction varies
>>532768433>murder 1watch the videosyikes
>>532770700Like I said, feel how you feel about dem j00s. I certainly wasn't taking Pissrael's side in that one because of all the infanticide they committed.
>>532770868Most still want to kill me lmao
>>532770681Honorary.
>>532769994Every time a normal white guy gets in charge of Batman he reverts to "I'm not going to save you" and shatters every bone in a villains body before turning him over to be raped to death in prison.No sane person thinks Batman would actually risk his own life, or the lives of others, to protect a murderer. The man throws knives at people.
>>532770966Ty, also most video games are properganda,Jews worship demons,Jews created Islam, Jews rewrote the old testament to remove Jesus from it
>>532769510Comics are gay.
>>532771051yes but so is your dad so it all balances out
>>532768433being older than 12 years old and still being into comic book heros.if you are incel you really need to look at how materialistic you have become, and dump all of it, a la you dont talk about it and you dont talk about it again.
>>532768433batman is about being jedinot killing joker leads to joker being allied with batman at times because joker is a 4d jester entity unlike the othersbatman knows not to kill him because joker is part of a higher planyes it is stupid and not representative of real life, but that's what makes it interesting
>>532770932jews are good at manipulation, and pretty much always lie. It's hard to blame those that wish harm to you because of what you are. The safest best is often the best bet. Sorry, if you are what you imply, but I'd still have to take their side because it's impossible to know.
>>532769847>I guess the most "sane" lore reason why batman doesn't kill is that he figures if he starts doing so then he loses controlThat's always been fucking retarded.The good reason for Batman not killing is because he believes it's YOUR privilege to kill the Joker, he's just here to make it easy for you.By killing the joker he's robbing you of your rights, that's how he sees it.
>>532770249An eye for an eye was actually a revolutionary justice system that ended endless back and forth bloodletting.
>>532770738I'm not a very nice fellow, so if Batman cut off the Joker's arms and legs and then made sure he gets to live another 50 years I'd respect that, but it's pretty brutal, and ultimately the outcome always is the same.>people die at some pointMay as well cut to the chase and not inflict any inhumane punishment in the meantime - he'll be dead all the same in the end, and keeping him alive costs taxpayer money, which he doesn't deserve.>commit heinous crime>become NEET 4 lyfe, including catering serviceIf you were to keep them alive you'd also be obliged to make their life hell, but again: taxpayer money. It's not really warranted.What would be warranted in many cases is slave labor: work off some of that debt, so victims can receive compensation.
>>532771173>a la you dont talk about it and you dont talk about it again.oh fuck off, I have a good enough memory to remember shit I read and enjoyed 20 years ago and subsequently discuss it if I want, you're not even my real dad
>>532771222It's fair desu, as Tesla said, never trust a Jew
>>532768710Yeah. Double gay because of Robin.
>>532771328Thank you for understanding.
>>532770014Kenshiro will literally stand there frowning like a retard and let the bad guy rape and eat three people in front of him while he can stop him, then he'll cry and accelerate to light speed and instantly kill the villain.He's like reverse Batman in the worst possible way: he kills all the bad guys but only after they get to eat one last baby. He doesn't enjoy saving good people he only enjoys killing.
>>532768855>But it's just a story and Joker is an interesting villain. That's really why he's still alive.the ukrainian midget's role model huhseems like if you consume enough cocaine you become a comic book villain
>>532770929Fuck off kike. Batman is also a massive faggot
>>532771427You welcome
>>532771219That's fucking retarded, society needs to keep faggots like you away from pens
1:25https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPD72oh4LYE3:10 to YumaCrowe's character gives a realistic and astute answer to killing people.
>>532771466the problem is not even that you lie (often to your own disadvantage lol) but that you have grown complacent and your lies are just the same old shit which became boring>what's the difference between a cow and the holocaust?>you can't milk a cow for 100 years
>>532771601Lmao, pretty much this
>>532770738In that movie Batman stops beating him only because he's on a time limit. After that the cop they leave with him basically comes to the same conclusion you did and tries to beat him into a body cast, he just gets surprised because Joker's hiding a shiv.
>>532771231why is that a retarded reason at least in batman's head? it's actually objectively true that killing someone is a line you can cross once and it can never be reversed so it makes sense batman doesn't want to know what's on the other sideof course, depending on the writer, your civil right or what did you say it was reason is also legit
>>532770647Superboy prime was right and darkest knight Batman who laughs was the gayest dumbest story ever written.
>>532768433Batman should have raped the joker.
>>532771261It's too mild for my tastes. If you gouge out someone's eye you deserve worse, otherwise people can calculate the risk. Let's say also paying restitution. You lose your eye and do 15 years of forced labor to reimburse the victim for the pain suffered.The idea that eye for an eye is counterproductive is ridiculous. The onus lies with the one starting it. Gouging out an eye and losing your own in return is no valid grounds for retribution.>take revenge for the revenge for the revenge of the revengeOf course feuds can be like that.
>>532771752Superboy prime was a fucking edgelordthat's it, wasn't really much depth to him at all past that crisis he was introduced in
>>532771752Who cares about this gay bullshit outside of power scaling
>>532771693yea true. joker immediately tells batman the answer after he first shows batman that batman is not holding the cards so he would not have much time. I guess he could have spent 10-30 seconds using his gadgets to break joker's every limb so he can't use his fighting skills to fool around because at least in the movie no one has superhuman strength and shit. joker's just good at fighting, weapons, interrogation, strategy etc because he used to be a glowie but that's it
>>532770920In a very infantile way, yes.In reality the insanity defense is concerned only with understanding whether an act is harmful and bad, and the Joker totally understands his behaviour is evil.
>>532771715>why is that a retarded reason at least in batman's headYou misunderstand, it's a retarded thing for a writer to force onto the story. It objectively shouldn't be true. I'm not commenting on the fictional character's reaction to it.
>>532770212You don't reason with a rabid dog. You don't put it in time out for the rest of its life. You don't let it stay around to suffer and inflict further suffering on others.You put it down. End of story.
>>532770567I hope you're either a troll or a deranged boomer.
This is a book for teenagers and mentally stunted adults.
>>532771882the writers can choose from multiple things motivations and angles in the stories. I was saying that even in real life killing a person is considered a taboo for spiritual and practical reasons because you don't often get to unkill someone and the person will be a killer until the end of their lives and no one can take it away from themor rather a murderer as in if someone just kills like in self-defense it's not entirely a same thing as murdering someone in cold-blood or with real brutality
>>532771818>Superboy prime was a fucking edgelordSuperboy prime was a cruel parody of us, normal people in the audience who hated how shitty comics were. Unfortunately for the writers he inevitably became a kind of "Based YES chad" meme because hating comics is objectively correct.
>>532772064>the writers can choose from multiple things motivations and angles in the storiesAnd choices can be wrong.>I was saying that even in real life killing a person is considered a taboo for spiritual and practical reasonsKilling evil was a cause for joy and celebration in every culture in human history up until less than one full lifetime ago where we decided worshiping "peace" was more important than worshiping Truth.
>>532772372we are not arguing about if it's stupid to limit that you can not kill a single evil person in your lifetime, just saying that it's not a flaw to write a stupid or flawed character. I even acknowledged it's probably at least in part propaganda to appeal to white goyim who want to go to lengths to do the "right thing" or not use violence or kill etc. it still remains a legit psychological motive to not kill in the way like "jumping the fence with no coming back" and it can still be considered a flaw
>>532772064>the person will be a killer until the end of their livesAnd? Spiritual reasons? Not actually a thing. Having killed someone isn't necessarily a big burden; it can be, but can also be a point of extraordinary pride.>no one can take it away from themB-based? Although they can be killed in turn.The main problem there is the role of the judiciary executioner, since he has to kill random people whom he might have nothing to do with - but he isn't the one making the decision either.Definitely something that should be left to volunteers. Nobody should be forced to kill, including being forced into a self-defence scenario where that is necessary.
>>532772372In mainly a doctrinaire way, though, as in: they supported certain people being killed, but they were not eager to dirty their own hands.
>>532772865>just saying that it's not a flaw to write a stupid or flawed characterIn this case, it is. Stop trying to abstract and generalize when this is a specific writing decision that is specifically bad.
>>532771862People who actually like comic power scaling are infinite retards. The best comic book based franchise of all history was the early 2000s animated universe and in that the strongest characters could like, lift one building if they tried really hard.Justice League animated stands as far above every other comic property in history as Europe did above Africa.
>>532768433Batman is Jewish. He would never execute someone who kills whIte people.
>>532773670Manga is infinitely superior, cringe as that sounds, and this is proven simply by the fact people with a functioning brain can read manga without incessant facepalming and the urge to KYS.US comics are on par with the absolute worst manga has to offer, with few exceptions, like some of Alan Moore's work, which again might sound cringe, but is a fact.
>>532768433>Fuck Batman. A true hero would kill the Joker.What do you expect? He was written by a kike.In the early 20th century of America and prior, people executed dangerous criminals. They often didn't even need a judge to do it. The community just came out, knowing what a particular asshole did, knowing what needed to be done, and hanged him from a tree. Local sheriffs would simply record the death.There's been a concerted effort over the past century to propagandize the public into believing this is wrong, and that law and order should only be adjudicated by judges (kikes) and lawyers (kikes), and enforced by municipal police departments (under direction and law written by kikes). The system is now so bad you have kikes whipping up criminal mobs into a frenzy when some violent criminal gets shot for doing violent criminal things.
>>532774677Really doesn't take a lot of creativity to realise this is how civilisations fall.Now I wouldn't exactly encourage mob justice, since things can go wrong, like imagine during the "pandemic", what people may have done with antivaxxers.>they're a threat to public safety!>*becomes threat to public safety*Cattle cannot really be trusted, but neither can anyone else, broadly speaking. Only abstract, logical, unpersonal processes can be trusted somewhat.>1+1=2 I'm willing to believe it.>nigger+crime=???Strong but not quite as strong.
>>532768433Congratulations, you didn’t fall for boomer morality. Next you’ll realize it’s okay to judge people, and you should judge them, hard.
>>532769069It's Boomers and Gen X if anything, they started this whole "just be nice" thing, it started with hippies and Jimi Hendrix.
>>532771766Fair enough. If you gouge out someone's one eye, and there is 50% change you'll get caught, you should suffering losing both eyes as a compensation for the 50%.
>>532768433Everyone would do the same thing as batman lol, way easier to send him to the state and pretend its judgement is divine than actually do the right thing.
>>532775258That's actually kinda deep, and yeah, the logic is 100% sound.
>>532775061If we kept on killing stupid anti-social people then the Covid hysteria wouldn't happen in the first place, because stupid people wouldn't exist. It's a chicken-and-egg problem, sort of.
>>532775288>be me>the Batman>catch some complete psycho for the Xth time and whoop his ass>put my Batgun to his head>sissy capefaggot arrives>NOOO, hecking Batmanerino you can't do this you'll be just as bad as him!>pull the triggerThis is precisely how it would go down, and I might shoot the capefaggot too if he gets uppity. Bad enough to have a witness, but if he's full autism, well.. basically he's as crazy as the Joker.Quite the irony, in fact.>taking the Joker's side accusing me of becoming as bad as the Joker he became as bad as the JokerNot something I'd expect him to batunderstand. Truly his Reddit followers will be saddened.
>>532768433>reading Jewish comic booksLOL
>>532775689Killing an insane mass murderer is obviously justified, but it undermines several modern concepts of justice like>rehabilitation, the state can definitely make him into a good personor>sequestration, the state can definitely keep him locked up for cheap and won't release him laterKilling the joker because>he obviously deserves it lmaois too old-fashioned. That's what our ancestors would do, not what reddit would do.
up until the last momebt of your life you will always uave a chance to turn your life around and become someone new.to you dying breath you have a chance to change. so does the joker. some people never change. some people never think theyll change and 20 years later they are someone comoletely different. some day the joker will change. maybe when they finally lay that lame ass comic to rest.
>>532776099To be fair I'd probably give the capefaggot the ok sign (racist version) and simply apprehend the Joker then execute him later and dump his body with concrete boots. If there's any questions later he escape, no doubt he'll be back soon, trust.The faggot already escaped like 15 times, no way I'll turn him over to the obviously incompetent or corrupt police.The idea of giving him a trial (with death penalty the result) of course is valid, but he already escaped this repeatedly, so I'm not taking any chances, and nobody but gigalibtards and Harley Quinn are going to miss him.
>>532768433
>>532768433Go back to plebbit faggot
>>532776350>you have a chance to change. so does the joker.Actually giggled at this like Michael Jackson.The Batman is on the edge hisself, and what exactly would the Joker do to make amends for his crimes? Develop the cure for cancer? Didn't Mr Freeze already do that?No chronic repeat offender will ever be rehabilitated. Maybe he can learn to control himself, but what exactly does that accomplish? He has to pay like 500 million in criminal damage, which he won't.
>>532768433Batman came out in a time when comics were for kids because anything more than a PG-rating got mixed with the porno mags in the adult-only stores.
>>532776476There's the Black Death and there's white death. Comic book authors have a specific preference for the latter.>comic book authorAdd it to the other list.
If you want a fun time, google famous comic book characters and who created them. Spoiler alert>jew>jew>jew>jew....etcSuperman, Batman, Spidermen, the X-men, Captain America, the list goes on....
>>532771173You're just a nerd for pussy instead of for fiction
>>532777729yeah tho x-men isn't really doing anything to hide it because the parallel is pretty obvious and magneto is even a holocaust survivor (not sure if he's one in the most recent lore but at least in the x-men movie trilogy)the movies are kind of interesting because in the first movie the plot is that if the evil mutants can turn every important leader into mutants they win and there's even a deleted scene where they directly address that christianity won over the masses when some rome leader turned into it as in they won over goyim in that wayin second movie there's a device/mutant who can search every mutant and also non-mutant and the evil mutants have a plot where they kill the goyim I mean the non-mutants so that they will never be threatened by them againthe third movie isn't that good which is often the case in trilogies but I recall it was about how someone invented a cure to get rid of mutant powers and some of the mutants wanted to take it
>>532768433Governments are usually more reptilian and evil than the joker, that's the joke AnonThe joker isn't a moral villain, the good guys are tools and not always good either, the systems abuse people and sometimes kill people everyday
>>532781371Most versions of Magneto make senseSome edgier versions of the Joker can be moralA lot of shit is debatable, but when entitled people "do law" and "do government" and everyone else is at their mercy or total niggers and NPCs, then super villains tend to happen and then "good men gone" and "no one wants to be used anymore"
>>532781656I dont like liberals but a lot of Jewish conservatives get brainwashed by "good boy / good goy" mentalities and don't have a clue or do but are Jews / NPCs(((Jewish Liberals and / or Jewish Conservatives)))
>>532775689>This is precisely how it would go down,No, it wouldn't. You could walk up to a evil person now and kill them, but you won't.
That's why I like Kenshiro, he's all 'You don't deserve to live any longer, die.'
