Not a single one of his theories proved wrong. at the end of the day, all of humanity's problem came from exchange value, merchandise, money.From the very first exchange of seashells for flint 10 000 years ago, it was already doomed; it could only lead to Wall street and 99.9% of goycattle gettign exploited, selling their very existence.
Right about what?
>>532779176>Francewhy do you niggers love communism so much
What's the Asiatic mode of production
>>532779176his works have been extremely influential in all of our lives today
>>532779176Now tell us who makes the money
>>532779224objective reality.
>>532779176Yeah, the jews are so correct about everything every country who hosts them winds up expelling them because they are a cancer on the entire world.
>>532779458Such as factory workers take over the means of production?
>>532779458>objective realitySo correct about objective reality the jews have never had their own country longer than 80 years.
>>532779176That’s a pretty sweeping claim, and it doesn’t really hold up—both historically and logically.First, saying “not a single one of Karl Marx’s theories proved wrong” ignores that many of his specific predictions didn’t happen. He expected capitalism to collapse in advanced economies, workers to become progressively poorer, and society to polarize into just two classes. Instead, we saw the rise of a middle class, major increases in living standards, and capitalist systems adapting rather than collapsing.Second, reducing all human problems to “exchange value, merchandise, money” is an extreme oversimplification. Conflict and inequality existed long before markets—tribal warfare, hierarchy, and resource competition predate money by thousands of years. Exchange didn’t create human conflict; it organized and scaled it in new ways.Third, the idea that early barter “doomed” humanity assumes a straight, inevitable line from seashell trades to modern finance. That’s not how history works. Institutions evolve, and outcomes depend on political choices, culture, technology, and governance—not just the existence of exchange.Also worth noting: Marx himself didn’t argue that all problems come from exchange alone—his analysis was about modes of production, class relations, and how economic structures shape society. Boiling it down to “money = all evil” is actually a distortion of his framework.
>>532779481I know /pol/ is retarded but why does pointing out that Marx was Jewish a sudden rebuttal of his thought? It's Marx who has a book in which he calls that the Jew's real God is money called the "Jewish Question" which is the biggest criticism of Jewishness that exists today and it wasn't written by Hitler but by Rabbi's son Karl Marx. Of course, talking to a raped kikeslave american about Marx is a moot point.
>>532779616>AIslopYou really asked AI to refute Marx? Now ask the AI to refute those points using Marxists arguments you moron.
>>532779774>why does pointing out that Marx was Jewish a sudden rebuttal of his thought?Because the jews are so parasitic and terrible no one anywhere on Earth can tolerate them to the extent that they have never been able to keep their own country longer than 80 years. They are curse on everyone everywhere. Niggers in Africa can keep a country longer than the jews. The last person who should ever be consulted regarding a public policy choice is a jew. hope this helps rabbi
>>532779850I just did and it told me you're gay, retarded, and poor?? lol!
>>532779481>>532779540go and read the jewish question. this s essential to understand the world we live in and how the jews themselves suffer from their worship of currency.
>>532779922Again, it's Marx who criticized Jews the most. More than daddy Hitler ever could. Communism is the complete and utter opposite of the Jewish thought. >>532779933But that describes the average american
>>532780010the average american thinks karl marx is a smart guy with ideas worth listening to. looks like we agree on something
>>532779176>Stalin wasn't real communism
>>532779481>>532779774>>532779995He was a Baptist btw
>EVRYTHINGok ESLNothing KM wrote back in the mid-late 19th century has *any relevance at all whatsoever* today in 2026.Dinosaur and amusing historical curio
>>532780180not just "wasn't real communism"it was the absolute oposite of communism as described by Marx.
>>532779458Wow solid answer really winning hearts and minds with all that effort and thought you put in
>>532779176It's a religious control world to keep the masses dumb and obedient. The paradox for the elite is that a dumb population can't produce revolutionary technology.
>>532779616>and society to polarize into just two classesyeah that's totally not happening right now, rabbi
>>532779176dialectical materialism is fundamentally flawed and contradicts itself as it claims both to be a universal truth that describes all change but also that we should not think in metaphysical constants but instead examine each thing individually. historical materialism is flawed because all theories of society that claim there is a single important thing that everything else is a byproduct of are retarded.marx was genuinly trying to develop a theory using new darwinnian thinking, and he failed but he tried and this is why marxism has a lot of writing and theory behind it. modern marxists know the only value of this style of thinking (critical theory) is to enslave a midwit intelligentsia to do their bidding and this is why modern leftist theories are so shallow and dumbed down compared to it
>>532779176I want slaves to be free.Karl Marx wanted slaves to BE free.We are not the same, goy.
>>532779176new Jesus of losers
>>532779176Haha that faggot is dead
>>532779458>objective reality.you cannot give any one-man total control over any system. You can't allow unrestrained authority to take root and grow out of control until it consumes you and everything else.That is objective reality. People fall into one of 2 categories generally, much of his reality is based on pitting those 2 against each other in perpetual endless cycles of suffering.Ideological tenants adopted by anyone mean little when everything is an illusion of choice.there is a future where all these stupid decisions catch up with people but at the very least when that inevitable happens those ones not stuck in that cycle have the more favorable start after total global collapse.I never understood how anyone could fall victim to it but look at it everywhere, and they work in the shadows making everyone hate. It's correct , and I always said it is like the heralds of hell preaching outright theft and slavery but calling it the opposite.
>>532779176Fat old unemployed kike
Imaging arguing or debating with Marxist faggots when they're just complete pseudo-intellectuals without any of their own ideas or frameworks. They're literally retards who regurgitate a bunch of crap, they'll never say anything unique, new, or original.
>>532779176having a historically materialist view that can be applied to all societies across time.
>>532779933danm you're retarded
>>532780480>>532780010The problen with his theory is that he doesn’t actually have a solution. The later part of his works wasn’t to be taken too seriously and the leftist retards themselves do not understand that Stalin didn’t know what the fuck to do so he just prepared for war with Hitler and he got that one right so commies try to justify his economic policy. And China is actually just more like Fascism. We need like a right wing Marx reading club However, if you're getting tired of this same-shit-spamming nu/pol/ sliding psyops agitprop concern trolling shill catalog, you should just start building your own communities but if you cbf you can join my SimpleX chat : https://smp17.simplex.im/g#lzALEMkYHHloE3BusU9TrqIsv4XIQa_6fzIrnT7gz1QDesktop app : https://simplex.chat/downloads/>Inb4 : “muh you glow”Fuck you non-fren demoralization shill. I have a bad news for you sweetie. It’s only going to get worse. Tee hee. If you want actual anon discussion, talk about cohencidence and geopolitics, finance, tech stuff, philosophy while at the same time some banter allowed, places like img boards are no longer some sort of isolated layer where we can laugh at normiefags all day. Being able to not be seen was the real anon power of this board. Now they screen cap here and talk about it on normie social media. We’re not watching them, we’re being watched. Become self aware and have metacognition for once you autistic faggots. Discord, Telegram, X are not not really anonymous and namefag apps are inherently privacy nightmare. SimpleX is more like IRC feels - incognito mode, multi profile and no phone number needed to join. Beware this chat is a post-populist chat : woke right/woke left, insecure idpol shills don’t bother. This is not intended to be a safe-space. It was normal for people to have different opinion. But you can still joke around here and there and throw in some /pol/ memes and snarky comments in between also, unlike some faggy jnnies on Telegram.
capitalism seeks to maximize profit by increasing prices and suppressing wagesthere is only one logical conclusion
>>532779458>Crosses his legsHe's objectively a fag.
>>532779176Was he right when he divided by 0 in his maths papers? Oh wow.
>>532779481Karl was a self-hating jew.Therein lay the incredibly power that allowed him to formulate historical materialism.
>>532784759I think blaming Capitalism is an excuse.It's the ruling class.At some point they become too greedy and want it all.They want everything for themselves and to rule like Gods.
>>532779176He was a bum that used a benefactor to pay his power and pub bills. But yes of course, he was right about everything
>>532784759Capitalism was founded by Adam Smith as a response to feudalism. Capitalism is simple idea that any retard like you should be able to own his own shit and that slavery, serfdom and landlording are hurtful for economy and human development.Yet here we are in 21st cenutyr with uneducated retards like you who know jakc shit about capitalism, and cry that socialist policies which tax your ass into oblivion and redistribute this taxed wealth to billionaires who run on government subsidies is somehow capitalism. And you cry for more taxes and more government ruling over you which literally will take you back to feudal era where you will own nothing.
>>532779176I don’t agree with his philosophical materialism or historical analysis, but is arguments are capitalism are irrefutable.
>>532784950>more government ruling over youYet it was the government that once kept the ruling class in check.Which gave the West it's best standard of living before the ruling class convinced the masses to sell public assets to the ruling class for pennies on the dollar.
>>532784906sure capitalism is just another tool they use to siphon value out of the prols. this has been happening for like 10k years in different ways.
>>532779458Objective reality is he is a gold digger that squandered his wife's wealth, had several illegitimate children, all but the golden child killing themselves, made Engels write his manifesto and then simply disappeared into history (suspicious). His ideology is a narcissistic wet dream that never works because it ignores human nature to push theory that ultimately leads to starvation. The people who follow it don't work and want free stuff without understand how stuff gets into peoples' possession. They unironically believe food comes from grocery stores and hate farmers. Marxism is a narcissistic ideology made by a narcissist for narcissists. Clinical narcissists have never been considered smart in all of history.
>>532780185He was ethnically Jewish. His family was Jewish and many of his male relatives were rabbis.
>>532780010>Communism is the complete and utter opposite of the Jewish thought. Explains why almost all of the surviving intelligentsia were first and foremost jewish. Why the biggest foreign enclave inside the chinese communist party are jews. Because it's all so opposite of the jewish thought..
>>532785262wow, that's quite the strawman you e got there.
>>532785525>Why the biggest foreign enclave inside the chinese communist party WERE jews.ftfyJews were also fighting on the side of Kuomintang against the CCPThe explanation for that is that the Jews will try to infiltrate everywhere but they failed in ChinaThey ultimately failed in the Soviet Union too.Otoh, can you explain why is the biggest enemy of communism and the biggest promoter of capitalism (to the point where they treat it almost like a religion), the US, completely subservient to Jews
>>532785203>sure capitalism is just another tool they use to siphon value out of the prolsPrecisely.In the past they would use Religion.The King and the lords were chosen by God to rule.The priest class were used as propagandists so that the poles would accept their servitude to the ruling class.
>>532784950Capitalism existed in the dutch republic a hundred years before Adam Smith was born.Writing a seminal work on an already existing phenomenon doesn't mean you invent it, unless I'm very much mistaken and Isaac Newton invented gravity.
>>532785721You're jewish or completely illusioned. Almost impressive if weren't on a ragebaiting forum.
>>532786363Do you have an actual argument
>>532786522Do you? Please show how they failed in China, the jewish encave inside the CCP not existing anymore and how they failed in the soviet union while an exceptional part of the oligarch elite is still jewish and putin turns completely silent whenever the topic of confronting israel gets just whispered around the room.
>>532779176I know another man who was correct on everything.
>>532785721>Jews were also fighting on the side of Kuomintang against the CCPat least name them
Yep. Bump.
he was wrong about pretty much everything thoughthats why he only talked about theories and never reality, because his ideas were retarded and not based on the real world he was the ultimate pseud midwit, a redditor before his time. probably 95-100 IQ range
>>532786949>Please show how they failed in China, the jewish encave inside the CCP not existing anymoreThere are no Jews in CCP, if there are any show them. You can't, they don't exist. >and how they failed in the soviet union They went from 40% (some say 80%) in Lenin's government to 4% in 1930s. USSR cut off diplomatic ties with Israel in 1967 and sided with Arabs in the early 50s already >while an exceptional part of the oligarch elite is still jewishYou mean like Prigozhin ? Kek. A lot of richfags are kikes but that doesn't mean they run the show, Russia is aligned with Iran against israel. Also you're strawmaning, we were talking about communism, Russia isn't SSSR>and putin turns completely silent whenever the topic of confronting israel gets just whispered around the room.And you know this how ?They are aligned with Iran and you're making shit up.Now answer my question>>532787402I meant picrel but this guy fought for KMT before the communist revolution. Some other Jews were involved in KMT but that was in the 20s. KMT was Zionist though.
A lot of glowniggers in this thread.
>>532779176He wasn’t. He presented class as some fatalistic thing that was inherent to the individual when that was not the case at all. A poor man could become rich and a rich man poor. And then there are the people who fit into neither category and just get labeled as proles until the time comes to take them out. There is also the fact that the jews get ignored entirely despite being doing all of the shit he railed against and literally owning the fucking money of multiple nations.
>>532787819>I meant picrel but this guy fought for KMT before the communist revolution. Some other Jews were involved in KMT but that was in the 20s. KMT was Zionist though.yep jews were involved in KMT so they could eventually impose communism on chinese people
>>532780010It’s secular judaism.
>>532788331That's a conjecture and a pretty dumb one but the fact is that CCP is free of Jews now unlike the American uniparty.
>>532788448factually wrongmajority of chinese would still be living for less than dollar per month if jews didnt outsource american economy and military there which they wouldnt do if they werent on receiving end of it
>>532784950https://files.libcom.org/files/2022-05/The%20Invention%20of%20Capitalism.pdfthe invention of capitalism, by michael perelman
>>532788583>American jews outsourced American economy to China>It means Jews own ChinaNo, it means Jews own America
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>>532788583>if jews didnt outsource american economy and military thereYou can't blame just Jews and it wasn't just America.Almost the entire Western ruling class decided to offshore their industrial base as part of it's class war against the people of the West.As you point, they wouldn't have done this if the people owned the means of production in places like China.
>>532788742no it means they control both but prefer chinese slave population that's easier to control with fraction of manpower
>>532779774Having any close relationship to Jews makes anyone suspect. "On the Jewish Question" was a "rebuttal" of a gentile named Bruno Bauer who said Jews should assimilate into the new state and abandon their ridiculous antisocial religion if they want to be treated as equals.
>>532779616>workers to become progressively poorer, and society to polarize into just two classes.This is literally happening right now.
>>532788807yes all jew friendly politcians participated in it but in case of US it had bigger impact especially after the ww2
>>532788880>no it means they control bothChina gives no money to Israel, they openly speak against Israel, there's no Jewish lobby or politicians in CCP, China is aligned with Iran, America hates China and so onYou are desperate and your pics are pathetic, they show no Jewish grip on China.You have an old photo of 3 American Jews with Mao and that's all
>>532779176>Predicted that workers living standards would continue to fall>They started to rise>Predicted a new slave class forming>Middle class was formed instead>Predicted workers abandoning religion and nationalismi>Low income workers are still the biggest supportters of religion and nationalism in every country.Marx was WRONG, all socialists that could accept reality, and that Marx was wrong about many things became Social Democrats.Those that refused the reality became Communists
>>532789149cope retard
>>532789331>Americans pay taxes to Israel, pray for Israel, die for Israel, 70% of its politics, academia and media is Jewish as well as 100% of Hollywood>BUT LOOK AT THIS JEWISH DOCTOR WHO WORKED FOR PLA AND JEWISHLY REMOVED BULLETS FROM CHINESE COMMUNISTS AND LEFT CHINA IN 1949 BEFORE CCP EVEN TOOK OVER, IT'S THE SAME THINGKek
>>532789660>BUT LOOK AT THIS JEWISH DOCTOR WHO WORKED FOR PLAthey literally called him a general for some reason
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>open dumb bait thread about the progenitor kike commie retard>see "Croat" simping for CCP commie insects and a fat dumb kike whose "theory" was BTFO during his own lifetime by his contemporaries and empirical data>"Croat" is simping for a retard who couldn't fathom the concept of mathematical derivative, who couldn't provide for his own family and who famously stated that all Croats should be drowned in Danube and exterminated from the face of the earth because of ban Jelačić quashing revolutions in Austria-Hungary death to commie niggers and death to VPN false flagging niggers
>>532789660>>532790173
>>532789660>>532790278
>>532790258>who famously stated that all Croats should be drowned in Danube
>>532790363>Jews freeze funding>China sends money for keks>See ? Jews own China
>>532790486>oh wow china funds hamas same as israelnothing to say about those 3?>>532790073>>532790173>>532790278
>>532784950He was definitely the first to write it down. The other major event going on at the time was Spain had looted the world of its gold supply, but squandered all of it on stupid pointless bullshit. Its obvious at some point someone would start asking if being a worthless parasite violently stealing gold and paying other people to try and create gold is the best way to create wealth.As for socialism, it just ends up happening naturally in an industrial society. Its how you cut wages without affecting the quality of labor. For example government subsidizing Healthcare, housing costs etc means employers less and everything is cheaper to make = more competitive economy.To be fair, socialism wasnt created to deal with american society which doesnt produce shit and relies on the petro dollar so a bunch of pedophile usurers can live their lives doing absolutely nothing of economic value.
>>532790692>nothing to say about those 3?It's a copeShow me the equivalent of this
We do not live in a free market.
>>532787306He is the reason Israel exists.
>>532790844go back to this post retard >>532788880>no it means they control both but prefer chinese slave population that's easier to control with fraction of manpower
>>532790990>>no it means they control both but prefer chinese slave population that's easier to control with fraction of manpowerConjecture and a pretty dumb one
>>532780010>Communism is the complete and utter opposite of the Jewish thought.It's the same shit the new testament aimed to create: a revolution from the lowest classes. There, the kike Saulus tells people to expose their masters by "turning the other cheek" publically as if to yell "see how abusive this guy is?". All to create an army of slaves, women and peasants to overthrow the rules or force them to convert (and thus subjugate them to the priest class).Marx uses Adam Smith's theories on the value creation via labor and twists it into a tool for a worker revolution by seducing them with the idea that their work is worth far more than the haute burgeoisie gives them for it. Note how feminism did exactly the same with household chores.It's all about giving kikes a seat at the table, whether it's as a priest class or as union leaders. The result is always the same: you work, they "judge" (their old, trite "we brought morality to the west") and get a comfy income for it.
>>532790782Tsmt. I absolutely love pedophilic ursuers taking advantage of the human condition so they can live in palatial summerside mansions and cottage getaways while the world burns beneath them. Would be great for them to offworld onto the moon for a bit while we all die off. They'll get there soon enough! I'm a good goy
>>532791149a chink wumao and a pretty dumb one
>>532779176His observations were legitimate, his predictions though not.
>>532779301Why do Israelis love capitalism like it was a child to rape.
>>532779176There are theorical flaws in his work such as the ambiguity in some concepts such as socially necessary labour but Marx is really good. Easily one of the greatest. Shame that most people are too retarded to read him and take it for what it is because of ideology. >>532779481Marx was similar to Otto Weininger in his critique of jewishness. But the Jewish Question in the 19th century is quite a complex topic and not even Marx himself explored it as much as it should.
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>>532784862>self-hating JoosSome of the earliest zionist propaganda adopted from orthodox joos to shut down inner jewish criticism. This is the main issue among Joos, zionist try to hide to this day. Without its foreign enemies Israel would have long been broken apart from within. Jewish unity has always been a lie. Zionists, Orthodogs and Assimilated joos hated each others gut to the point where german joos heavily rejected jewish refugees fleeing the russian empire, describing them as a dirty, superstitious people still living in a medieval mindset. One could even argue that Marxs utopian ideas were heavily influenced by thoughts of jewish theology but turned upside down, just like Hegels idealism. Communism wants to liberate humanity therefor believes in slavation just as Judaism is waiting for the salvation by the true messiah. Diffrence is of course that Marx wanted the lower classes to fight for this slavation, not just waiting in fatalist fear, only studying and praying instead of acting. This idea was very influential among early zionists who used the same argument to criticize the passive orthodox shtetl jews. To some extent communism was in direct competition with zionism even splitting jewish families:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gershom_Scholem - convinced Zionist (even changed his name form Gerhard to Gershom in order to make it sound more jewish kek)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werner_Scholem - his brother, co-chairman of the german comminist party. Convinced Antizionist who believed Zio ism was just another stupip Bourgeois blood&soil nationalism. He was killed by the Nazis in Buchenwald.
>>532785845Existed long before that as well. Capitalism is just the vacuum outside of state control. Where a state isn’t enforcing its evonomic rule you have economic freedom, and the state can never completely enforce its rule. Even North Korea has black markets, i.e. free markets.So capitalism exists everywhere and is as old as humanity is. Capitalism is also therefore not a real ideology (or mode of production, capitalism itself is a communist term) but rather a description of the vacuum.
>>532779176>Not a single one of his theories proved wrong.More like:Not a single one of his theories proven right.Since everytime his idiotic principles are tried, they devolve into something that is called "IT WASN'T REAAAAL COMMUNISM" retrospecively.Marx had no clue about how the real world works anyways, no clue about econimics... Just the dictionary definition of an "armchair philosopher"
>>532780010>Marx who criticized Jews the mostMarx was a jew whose entire male linage were rabbis. He's a turbo jew.
>>532784862He was a devious evil jew whose ideas have made innumerable people miserable.
>>532779176Op, you are a complete retard.Marx's theories are based on a false historiography, and his own massive hubris.>Hurr durr, all societies believed in nothing but capital before my crackhead idea>But also my ideology is entirely materialisticYou should be stoned to death for being stupid.
>>532797874>He was a devious evil jew whose ideas have made innumerable people miserable.Yes.
>>532797816Retarded burger
>>532798097Pretty accurate critic desu. He was as megalomaniac with his ideology as the school of german idealism that ultimately spawned him. Still: some of his core critic of capitalism is valid (thougbeit kinda stolen from Saint Simon)
This thread is a prime example of why Marx emphasized the bloody revolution part of his theories.
>>532779176It's crazy how ignorant americans are about Marx>>532779616We are seeing workers get poorer and poorer every year, zoomers cant afford houses. You have it backwards
