Is Iran stupid, did they actually get regime changed, or is there some kind of seismic split? Or is Iran baiting the US and using this time to resupply?
>>532782679It would be funny if Israel bombs them lol
The latter apparently Russia moving tons of cargo in so they're arming Iran with the good stuff nowAlso they're probably just sending support to Hezbros so they fight back instead of doing it themselves until necessary
>>532782718I honestly believe that will happen. Israel/US/ZOG will just keep baiting them with fake diplomacy until they buckle. Or, at least, that's what I'm scared of. >>532782731Man I really hope so.
>>532782679>Boy who cried wolf.Remember that saying. >Two more weeksIs all anons will mockingly say as both sides of this conflict scramble to rearm over that timeframe for ultimate showdown.
>>532782856What concerns me, is that WILL it be "ultimate"? Or will the US just keep starting and stopping this war until Iran finally makes a fatal error or another US operation succeeds?
>>532782819Hezbollah stated they resume operations so that part is already happening Iran gave the green light
paki jamboy too alluring to iranian reformists flies.
>>532783058Yeah but you and I both know that Hezbollah cannot win a war solo against Israel, especially if the US starts attacking them while Iran sits in the ceasefire cuck-chair and Kushner blathers at the table again.
>>532782679It’s less of a split and more of a survival tactic. There is zero chance the US actually agrees to those terms. So they are in Islamabad to see if they can get sanctions relief without actually giving up their nuclear program or regional influence. Two weeks of talks is better than two weeks of relentless bombing anyway.
>>532783101Nah they're not supposed to win just resist until IDF once again fails all its objectives and runs home crying. US will not bomb Lebanon without intervention by Iran
>>532782819You are a massive faggot.Fuck niggers.I hope everyone dies.
>>532783204What's the point of meeting? Even if they get sanctions relief, the US will just start attacking again, and probably before the relief begins. More likely is the US does what it did twice before, and dupes them until it's in a position to strike then does so without hesitation.
>>532782718I want Israel to bomb Pakistan and for Pakistan to make good on its promise to nuke Israel in retaliation.
>>532783277Except this is setting the precedent that the US can start and stop the conflict when it wants, and Iran will always listen and obey. And the US can just rearm Israel and flood them with cash and aid, while Iran has no such benefactors (Russian and Chinese aid has been somewhat flaccid and light).So as long as Israel lives, Iran will have to either choose defeat, or to destroy Israel.
>>532782731>Russia arming IranI hope it's POV drones
>>532783394Iran doesn't lash out until attacked this is not new, they don't need to, they gain nothing directly from middle east wars they're just harassing Israel enough to stop them from taking over the region. There's no kind of Iran empire planned unless they are forced into it, which they were, so they took over the Gulf.
>>532783305True, but the US needs that oil flowing right now to stop the price spike. Even if it’s a setup, they will play along just long enough to stabilize the markets before the next round of mess starts.
>>532783492Yes, but not responding to the clear perfidy of your enemy and sitting while they position to try and kill you.....AGAIN, will only end in your death. Attempted murder done enough times eventually simply becomes murder.
>>532782679
>>532782679>Or is Iran baiting the US and using this time to resupply?What do you think?The regime that sent it's own children to clear minefields in human wave attacks?
>>532783575Well the US still can't move their navy within range so nothing really changes from the last day of fighting except the fighting stopped. I mean Iran is obviously ready to die for their beliefs so they will win any longer war so I'm not really worried about the US war crimes effect on the country.
>The regime that sent it's own children to clear minefields in human wave attacks?
>>532783518It's a setup, just like the other two times. But each time the US does this, Iran WILL keep weakening. Israel won't be toppled unless totally destroyed, because it has limitless aid and help from JewSA. Iran doesn't. The US even has it's airbridge still up, and sending aid and massing troops. This is another positioning ruse.
>>532783011>Or will the US just keep starting and stopping this war until Iran finally makes a fatal error or another US operation succeeds?Obviously. Also they will start, stop, beg for ceasefire to market manipulate some more. >>532783204It's counterproductive for Iran to meet. First the US will never accept their demands, the US and Israel only want to destroy Iran. Second, the iranians are giving away all their leverage in a war they were strategically winning
>>532782718EBIN
>>532783394Pool closed
>>532782731Whilst they might be able to cash and carry some gear from Russia, the overwhelming Caspian sea traffic is going to be smugglers/importers of consumer goods, as well as small and medium scale exporters of primary goods.
>>532782679They show the world US and Israel are untrustworthy and evil.The same shit with Urakine and Russia. Ukraine wanted to talk, while Russia bombed them. Ended up with world taking Ukraine's side.
>pakistanI wanna see the fucking retard trying some false flag sheeit in nukulear capable country>inb4yes I say nukulear, get fuck
>>532783763and the world did nothing, except kvetch on social media.
they'll never withdraw that toll, either way. might delay it a while but the yuan is going to push in on the petrodollar for the rest of time unless some unnecessary miracle econ concession comes from china.
>>532782679They're meeting with the people who just assassinated their Ayatollah a month ago? How gay.
>>532783518These setups are not good for Iran. It's the same when trump withdrew from the original JCPOA, then killed Soleimani. Then the first round of negotiations and Israel sneak attacked, THEN the second round of negotiations, and the US and Israel bombed them, killed their holy leader and used their neighbors as staging grounds for an invasion/prolonged bombing campaign. There is no logic in positioning yourself to be constantly jumped by a kike and its golem, constantly
>>532782679careful, the US and israel may drop a tomahawk on that meeting like they did the last 3 times this was attempted.
>>532783743I completely agree on both points. Also, they slaughtered Mojtaba's entire family, and now he is basically saying "lets give peace a chance"? That just doesn't make sense on a human, emotional level. Also, the IRGC was just saying that diplomacy was dead and they would only accept the US capitulating to all their demands, nothing less. But then suddenly this happens? That's why I made this thread. What the fuck is going on behind the scenes in Iran?
>>532783838bakistan is a nuclear power, for real they would nuke israel
>>532782679I'm sure everyone who can think already knows there will be an assassination attempt by state sponsors of terror or one of their lackeys
>>532782679Russia and Ukraine have had many ceasefire discussions where they have just sent random literal who's cause they know it goes no where.It's not like the ayatolah or trump is at these meetings.
>>532783919supposedly it was china and i believe that
>>532783833>>532783827Exactly! You see where I'm coming from? It's preposterous. Has Araghchi(who has been involved in ALL rounds of "diplomacy" and is also still alive despite everyone else being killed) sold out Iran, or is trying to right now?
>>532782679They'll just close the Hormussy again until USraeli attitudes improve.
>>532783950ISNT JB GOING TO ISLAMABAD (PBUH)
>>532783743>>532783919We don't produce enough to rearm in two days. All they are going to do is see how cucked Trump is politically. They wouldn't have agreed if total Trump surrender in Truth wasn't true.
>>532782679>Trump kills entire government of iran>theater ensues where IRGC shoots empty warehouses Trump made a deal with some elements in Iran to coup the government but make it seem like war. How do you not see that
>>532782718Remember when the Iranian presidential helicopter crashed on its own?
>>532783972It makes no sense for China to basically let the US strategically sequence them by wearing down Iran and degrading the region, AND make China more dependent on US LNG.This is all just US Jews coordinating with Israeli Jews, but is there seriously no one else on Earth who can fucking work together?
>>532783919they assume they've won because TACO but Israel doesn't care and wants to keep going
>>532782679It won't be allowed
>>532784039Remember when Palestine kicked your ass and made you cry?
>>532784069Yes, and Israel will use Iran's paralysis and fear of breaking the ceasefire as cover to continue its other operations, and reposition and resupply to do all this again, probably with far, far greater viciousness.
>>532784089Portraying Iran as a blond woman is pretty funny
>>532782679Fuck, has Mossad infiltrated IRGC? Fuck.
>>532784063if it's true then the only reasoning i can think of is that china wants a pretext of a breakdown in diplomacy before stepping in openlymakes a lot of sense to me, america is looking weak as fuck right now and easy prey
They know it's personally risky and that the Americans are wildly untrustworthy. But Pakistan is also a nuclear power which will not tolerate attacks on its sovereignty. Iranians understand US and Israel will use the opportunity to resupply, but also that US and Israel are arrogant and technology-obsessed, so they will underestimate Iran's ability to do the same.
>>532783919I have three theories, one of which is schizophrenic but idgaf I won't pretend this shit is ok, I also refuse to believe the current narrative:>Option 1 - Mossad effectively subverted the IRGC and gathered cuckold reformists behind the scenes that more or less killed any war momentum via massive deception, bribery, internal coups. This doesn't make sense since Iran and the IRGC effectively decentralized the power structure of their nation for decades>Option 2: Mojtaba cucked out in the end, followed his father's example of being a cuck. This does NOT make any sense since he actually was more of a hardliner than his dad. On top of that, his whole family got slaughtered by the people he's now sitting down with to negotiate (???)And finally>Option #3: this world is truly a loosh farm, prison planet. The demiurge almost lost control and ruined this world with a big war, and everything "snapped back to normal" with a convoluted, fake peace. The archons and their nonces made big bank with this, the suffering cycle never stops.And I'm seriously leaning with #3
>>532782679Iran missiles are striking Middle East oil refineries and pipelines, seriously reducing their production capacity. Iran missiles are striking Israel, forcing their attention away from globalist fuckery and toward internal defense and rebuilding. Iran is closing the Strait of Hormuz, eliminating available supply for European nations, who are net importers of oil and natural gas. The US is a net exporter. It's starting to look like Iran on the surface is bad mouthing the US, while attacking financial and geopolitical competitors of the US. it reminds me of how ISIS would talk all kinds of mess against Israel, while attacking nations that posed a threat to Israel. Is Iran a US proxy?
>>532784101Remember when Muslims did a mass shooting in your biggest city, and then you sucked them off and swallowed the cum?
>>532782679How do they get around in Pakistan if the US and Israel have destroyed all the airports?
>>532784237Option 3 scares the shit out me, because I am aware of the hypostasis of the archons as well.
>>532784168>Fuck, has Mossad infiltrated IRGC? Fuck.Um, duh? Mossad has infiltrated various aspects of Iranian society, and most Iranians are supportive of this, which is why it's been possible for Mossad to infiltrate
>>532783973Yeah and that's my first theory but there's holes in it because how the fuck would aragchi wield so much power since he's just a FM. That means the rot within the IRGC and the Iranian government runs very deep, to the point they are all subverted to some degree. I find that extremely difficult to believe because if so, why the hell didn't the Mossad color revolution succeed less than 3 months ago?
>>532784268mass shootings are simply part and parcel of living in a degenerate kikeslave nation, glownigger falseflag shit only makes people hate jews more
>>532782731>HezbrosPisslam
>>532784166I see you didn't complain about the portrayal of Israel
>>532784309bro do you really think jews tell the truth about anything, ever?they haven't taken out their air defense either
>>532784268I remember when jews were welcoming muslims into western countries and fighting "fascists" who opposed it. I remember every jewish media and rabbe going about how multiculturalism is enriching people. I remember how jews protected poor muslims from persecution after they started killing people around.Fuck you schlomo.
>>532784237How about option 4, the Iranians are an honorable people who cannot fathom the depth of jew rat treachery and actually believed Trump when he adopted their 10-point plan as the basis for negotiations, as they correctly assumed they were winning strategically?
>>532784372My concern is that he has just enough authority to cause confusion and paralysis in the ranks.
>>532782679some inbred schizophrenic jew in the idf is gonna send the signal to bomb pakistan and hopefully pakistan follows through and nukes israel
>>532783973OR it's because he's the only one that speaks english well and is still aliveidk man
>>532782679There is a seismic split. No one is really in control of Iran currently. We haven't heard shit from the new Ayatollah Peter Puffer about any of this. He's likely dead or in a coma. Iran's president desperately wants to make a deal, but many of the IRGC commanders want to keep fighting. Without the Ayatollah to tell them to stop fighting, they'll continue on untill they're killed and hope more level headed people take their place.
>>532784313And not only that. Consider this. The war was "stopped on its 47th day". A war waged by the 47th president of the united States, against the Islamic republic of Iran, who's celebrating their 47th anniversary this year. Maybe this is irrelevant but let's go even deeper. There were already signs last week, and 10 days ago, that trump would TACO and not escalate the war. That's fine, he's a coward and it makes sense, but suddenly on Sunday/Monday morning, every news outlet started promoting the narrative of Pakistan being the last minute mediator, after Iran publicly dismissed them and closed all communication channels, after Iran startee going all out this week to the point Israel ran out of interceptors, and then... It all stopped? After oil hit a critical price level that spelled a great depression at the very least?No, this shit isn't right. And China kept receiving oil, and their land pipeline with Iran (part of their belt and road initiative) remained intact. Yeah maybe they didn't have the same amount of oil compared to pre war levels, but they were not even close to collapsing from it, compared to say, Philippines, vietnam or even Japan. Conveniently all these events aligned within 24 hours to create a ceasefire?
>>532784609They all speak english well. Araghchi is a figurehead and doesn't call any actual shots. It's all about Ghalibaf and the IRGC top command. They figured their defiance in the face of Trump's deranged genocidal threats won the day
>>532784681>No one is really in control of Iran currentlyNonsense
>>532784473But they cannot fathom the kikery of trump, after three failed negotiations that involved sneak attacks on their economy, military and infrastructure levels? I mean that could be the fourth option but that's a textbook example of naivety and the leaders of Iran are not naive. They call the US the great Satan for good reason ffs, why set themselves up to get pounced multiple times? If there's a 6D chess move I'm not seeing then Iran better start explaining this soon, because none of this makes sense to me
>>532784738Tactically it's either one of two things. Either the powers that be truly believe Iran's president wants to negotiate in good faith AND can get the IRGC under control, or, they fully expected Iran to break the ceasefire which would allow them to return to bombing, but without the civilian human shields in place around infrastructure.
>>532784681Spare us your EXTREMELY gay rhetoric. You don't give a shit about Iran or it's people. The only one desperate for a deal is Trump, and your israeli masters will do everything they can to fuck it up.The number is up for your petrodollar, and when it collapses so too will your fake and gay economy.Have fun being one of those third worlders you love so much.
>>532784865iran needs to learn that america is little satan and israel is great satantrump does what bibi tells him to not because he is blackmailed but because he is a willing subordinate to organized jewry. the same goes for the entire government including every single senator.
>>532784473thisI hope they know they're probably just gonna get backstabbed again. Maybe immediately maybe a year from now like it already happened. Jews goal aren't human. They want to destroy their civilization because any thriving ethnostate is a threat to the kike objective of enslaving the planet.
>>532784865>that's a textbook example of naivetyTrue>and the leaders of Iran are not naive.Yes, they most certainly are. They're deeply moral and idealistic, and that's where their rejection of ZOG as satanic comes from>after three failed negotiationsRemember they (correctly, in my view) believe they have the upper hand, and again, Trump literally said he'd take their 10 points as basis for negotiations. What are they to do against such bizarre blatant lies, under threat of genocide?Also, they obviously view this as a conditoional truce, have already reneged on Hormuz, and they're signalling readiness to resume hostilities in ALL mediaBtw they were smart about not retaliating yesterday, because Israel is as we speak trying to return to normal life
>>532784899Well the problem is, Iran's president is a reformist cuckold. If it turns out he was the mastermind behind reining on the IRGC and negotiating, then he's going to be blamed when the inevitable fourth strike (? I lost count already) happens, further debilitating Iran. Plus there's the other problem where the US is the party that refuses to negotiate in good faith with iran and has been consistently thwarting any genuine attempts at peace since the original JCPOA getting ripped by trump. It is clear that the US only wants to topple Iran, destroy it and leave it à la Libya for decades. So then why does Iran insist on negotiating with literal demons?
>>532785006you're wrong and don't get it eitherthis war is existential for israel which means america can not retreat, nuclear weapons will come before surrender. there is no option but victory, one way or the other.as our wonderful senators have said, even if america is a smoldering ruin it will still stand to defend israel.
>>532785219They are honorable men, unlike Trump and Bibi
>>532785219>Iran's president is a reformist cuckoldPezeshkian doesn't wield much actual power at the moment, his inclusion in the interim council is to balance the other two hardliners, in typical Iranian fashion
>>532785219I suspect that if this goes on, the IRGC might try to arrest the political leadership for playing for Israel/ZOG.>>532785231I agree, Israel will never ever stop trying to destroy Iran. Why doesn't Iran seem to get it?
>>532785006What a massive faggot you must be. I can always tell when I'm interacting with an imbecile because they start going off about the petro dollar. Anyone who isn't a complete retard knows that the petro dollar isn't going away anytime soon and if it did it would cause a WORLDWIDE economic collapse. What exactly is rhetoric about stating that here isn't really a leader in Iran currently? The Ayatollah is dead or hooked up to machines in a hospital somewhere. The IRGC units are structured to be independent in this scenario. This essentially means that warlords control Iran's military.
>>532785204I mean I've heard from their idealism/moralfaggotry from the Chinaman professor. That's probably a core tenet in their way of life, just as trickery, poisoning the well and subverting are the main foundations of hebrew identity. It's pretty disappointing to see. I respect the Iranians and they were winning this conflict, but their idealism puts them in a scorpion and frog situation where the kike scorpion keeps piercing them in the back.
>>532785275They shouldn't give any honor to the likes of satanyahu and his pedo underling trump.
I think Trump is in serious trouble. The GOP is getting demolished in every election and there is in fact an impeachment motion sitting on the table at this very moment. Plus he's lost practically every non-MIGA member of MAGA, and generals are telling Hegseth to go climb a tree. Don't think America is going to keep at this... the 60 day window ends in 3 weeks and Congress is in no mood for an AUMF.
>>532785219That's yet to be seen. I have to imagine that there's IRGC leaders that are intelligent enough to know that their country will not survive sustained bombardments. Even if they don't get invaded and keep the straight closed while lobbing a few missiles and drones. What good does it do if your country is destroyed and your economy is completely collapsed. They would just be another third world ME shit hole at that point. There has to be higher ups that want to make a deal to prevent that from happening. It's just a matter of who has more influence, the fanatics or the ones with common sense.
>>532785231>this war is existential for israel>currently invading another country, Lebanon>the continuation of this invasion broke the ceasefireFuck off kike.>the petro dollar isn't going away anytime soon and if it did it would cause a WORLDWIDE economic collapseLMAONo, the world does not run on dollars, just your faggot country. Hilarious cope.>What exactly is rhetoricLet me quote it for you.>>532784681>hope more level headed people take their placeThe implication being that the current and/or previous leaders of Iran are WACKY KOOKS who have no idea what they're doing, when the reality is they know PRECISELY what they are doing, because they've been preparing for this war for 47 years.The Iranian people are willingly turning up to defend their bridges, their infrastructure, their country with their very LIVES.They are united in their resistance to your globohomo poison.
>>532783919>What the fuck is going on behind the scenes in Iran?violence workspeople can be defeated and forced to submitmight take some more pounding, we'll see
>>532785741>do what we say or we'll commit warcrimesThe most judeo-american post in this thread.
>>532785219Trump is serious about a ceasefire.https://newrepublic.com/post/208815/trump-asked-iran-ceasefire
>>532785741Iran btfo you golems on all fronts, and your leader publicly submitted to their 10-point proposal
>>532782679The rogue element on Pol should've gone. Press and mainly assholes really scumbags and idiots and radical liberals. There are an element in their government who would rather not be in war. So there are negotiations, will it come to much, who knows and who cares. They haven't even been elected. Assumed power from chaos. There are hard-core jihadists who want zero negotiations.In understanding the negotiations proposed something, and they addressed their nation in whatever goatspeak something else. They then got to close the straight to be seen to be acting.What it means is the same bullshit another day of it. But the press have been far worse. Until there are facts there's only shit.
>>532785219Chill out. Iran masterminded a defensive strategy that beat the global superpower in like four days. They know the worst thing that could happen is talks go nowhere and they use the Lebanon attacks as an excuse to start hitting Israel again, putting pressure back on America. Whatever their plan is, they're smarter than you.
>>532782718>>532782679>inb4 Iran bombs Israel in the middle of peace talks>”oops lol”
>>532785830nobody threatened warcrimes you histrionic little bitch
>>532782731What slavnigger good stuff from Ukraine?
>>532785728you simply do not understand jews at allif iran gets nukes then israels territorial ambitions are over and if isreals territorial ambitions are over than the state has no purpose for beingisrael will fight to the death
>>532785912lmao wishes don't win wars loser
>>532785728You've been shilling for Iran awfully hard in this thread. You wouldn't happen to be an Iranian would you. FYI Allah was gang banged by dudes in the desert and is also a pedophile.
>>532785640You're a coping retard. Look up how IRGC mosaic structure is setup. Its not a mystery you are just uninformed and ignorant. IRGC knows the US wont destroy all of their infrastructure because they can do it back to all the gulf states in retaliation. All they have to do is survive and they can rebuild with no sanctions and full control of the strait. The US cannot destroy their whole civilization without dooming the whole region to the same fate.
>>532785982>wishesFacts. You're coping hard, migger
>>532783294Fuck you nigga, nta but fuck you stupid kike. Fuck ZOG choke on a dick you vile piece of of shit.
>>532782718Israel bombing the train line to china was good but they could do more.
>>532782731Short of atomics, there's not really anything Russia can give Iran that's better than what they already had.
>>532786055You can fix a railway in less than a day. Infrastructure isn’t even that hard to repair and it's actually good for your economy after a war as long as you have money coming in.
>>532785640>that their country will not survive sustained bombardmentsAmerica cannot do "sustained bombardments" and will collapse first.
>>532785964>israel will fight to the deathLMAOjews are cowards, they will do no such thing. They are already planning to flee to Argentina, Milei let them "purchase" a bunch of islands there which will host 300,000 fleeing rats.>>532785985We have reached the end of the line with this one. When all else fails;>You don't like israel? You must be BROWN!pic relatedI'm a white briton, as both of my parents were. You'll have to gear up your brain and think of something better than a greentext "not denying it".You can do it, mutt, put all 5 of those braincells to work!
>>532786019Are you an idiot? The reason it's called mosaic is because it's DECENTRALIZED. Do you understand what that word means? Iran is currently making few if any drones and likely no missiles. Every time they attack, they expose more of their locations for destruction. If bombing attacks continue on Iran these supplies will be destroyed. They're connection to the outside world to get parts to build more will also be taken out. The countries they attack around them are in a much better position to defend and rebuild. They also want the attacks to continue until Iran is completely destroyed. If Iran doesn't make a deal, then there's a very high probability that it will be Afghanistan within a year. There will also likely be attacks from ethnic groups inside Iran that will fragment the country because they will no longer have the ability to suppress these groups. So tell me dumbass, how many of the people who are in charge of Iran want that, just so they can claim they didn't back down to the US. Or maybe, just maybe, there's a significant portion that would like to make a deal and see their country move forward into the 21st century.
>>532785936Trump threatened to bomb a bunch of civilian infrastructure which would have certainly taken a large number of civilians with it, which does in fact constitute a war crime. This was after america had ALREADY committed war crimes on the country by doing the very same, the most publicized being the school full of children that you blew up. And as if that wasn't enough, Trump went a post on truth social that "an entire civilization will die".There's cope, and there there's being a lying kike mutt. You'd be the latter.
>they have no leaders but we're dealing with their leaders who have no control anyway but they also lost because they're sending a guy to talk with us (whoever 'they' are must be using russian necromancers because they're all dead and so is any diplomat they send) after Trump said THEIR 10 point plan is a good basis to start negotiations
>>532786475>I'm a white briton, as both of my parents were. You'll have to gear up your brain and think of something better than a greentext "not denying it".Brown skin detected. A white person never feels the need to tell you what color their parents are. I hade a feeling considering how retarded your take on things is and the amount of copium you've been spewing.
>>532786654Of course. I'm Schrodinger's brown.Try again, kike.
Iran lost.USA removed their entire militaryThey are powerless with no weapons at this pointTheir only move is to negotiate and make peace, otherwise half of their population will be wiped by the great USA.
>>532786931Muslims can have that skin color as well though.You're gonna have to post face.
>>532787035>amerimutts are bombing white people for the jewsNot the W you think it is.
>>532787077Do you really think anyone cares about "white people" other than some 4channers?Even 4channers hate each other - look at euros infighting and americans hating white euros and canadians. Whites are individuals.
>>532787077He's a belter, he only understands international politics in terms of fellating whatever the most powerful country in his immediate neighbourhood is. Today its America, yesterday it was Russia.
>>532787145So you've gone from>But muslims can be white!To>Nobody cares about white people!Spotted the shitskin.
>>532786654Little tip: Seeing jews go into this emergency shutdown mode where you default to just repeating "you're brown" just makes you look desperate and pathetic. Lol... Why don't you prove that YOU aren't a dirty kike for once?
>>532782679Us must have agreed to something. The iranians called all their bluffs
>>532787232you think vidrel care about you?they voted for a muslim mayor, btw
>>532787392I think they should have their country, and I should have mine, and you brownoids should have your's, and if your's happens to turn into a shit hole then that's your problem and you're not aloud to come and live in mine, because I don't like stinky retarded brown people like you.
>>532786022a workable basis on which to negotiatestop embarassing yourself
>>532786962How is the strait closed if they're powerless?
>>532786609the fact that we didn't hit all the power plants and bridges on day one is a massive departure from standard military procedure.these are valid targets under the law.I'm sorry but you're just being a histrionic little bitch, and if you keep crying wolf then no one will care when someone actually does commit warcrimes.
>>532785741>violence works>>532787623>a workable basis on which to negotiateHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAWHICH IS IT MUTT?
>>532782731But Donny has been sucking on russians? How could this happen?
>>532787690>these are valid targets under the lawNo they aren't. They are civilian infrastructre.Targeting civilians is a war crime, kike mutt.
>>532787654anon you can close the suez right now with a phone call.don't.but you could.if you think that makes you "powerful" and you conflate that with a phrase like "the US military is powerful" then you are committing a logical fallacy (motte and bailey) and coming to an invalid conclusion.we are 50 bombs away from turning iran into a failed state for the next 30 years and iran is powerless to stop us. that's why they dropped their preconditions and agreed to talks.
>>532782731Russia would support Israel more than it would support Iran any day.
>>532787696This, kek
>>532787825why are there negotiations and talks? why not unconditional surrender?
>>532787748you're mistakenthe geneva convention outlines exactly when it's legal to hit power plants that you falsely call "single use civilian" but are in fact "dual use" under the law.we fit the criteria here.you could have figured that out based on my illustrative example of prior wars where we hit these targets on day one.stop wishing laws into existence, idiot.
>>532787890probably because iran is not one entity at the moment and there's a lot of IRGC who would like to keep fighting
>>532787914>Under international humanitarian law (Geneva Convention Additional Protocol I, Art. 56), attacking power plants is generally prohibited if they contain "dangerous forces" (nuclear) or if the attack causes disproportionate civilian harm. >It is only considered legal if the facility provides regular, significant, and direct support to military operations, and the attack is the only feasible way to stop that support.How many plants actually power Iran's underground missile cities? I'd wager it's fewer than 0.1%
>>532787690>"we didn't commit every possible war crime so the war crimes we already commited don't count as crimes"most raped golem mindset
>>532787914>it's legal to hit power plants that you falsely call "single use civilian" but are in fact "dual use" under the lawAnd what about the school full of children?Or the bridges lined with people that you TACO'd out of bomb?Also answer this >>532787696 you mutt RETARD lmao
>>532784268uh they shot up a jew gathering homie. nice gloat LOL
>>532788017>regular, significant, and direct support to military operationswhy did you incorrectly interpret this as only applying to power plants that power "missile cities"?this is the law we used to legally hit hundreds of power plants and bridges in the first week of the gulf war, the iraq war, and the afghanistan law. the same law ukraine uses to hit russian power plants and oil facilities, because they are all dual use. the law even allows the attacker to make the determination that a power plant is dual use, without providing for any higher review or arbiter.I hope you understand that you are just crying wolf, and making it harder to get people to pay attention to actual warcrimes, which this is not.
>>532784268The mass shooting of kikes, anon
>>532788169>why did you incorrectly interpret this as only applying to power plants that power "missile cities"?Because Iran's military operations are mostly limited to those, dumbass
>>532788030we didn't commit any war crimes, you're just being histrionic>>532788043thank you for conceding that power plants are dual use and valid targets under the geneva convention.>And what about we had three clean hits on an IRGC facility in minab. there were civilians present, and international law shifts culpability to defenders in that situation. don't worry, the monsters who used those girls as human shields have already been brought to justice in accordance with international law.
>>532788169Why are you nitpicking over>muh dual use powerplantswhen you've already killed hundreds if not thousands of civilians through indiscriminate bombing of civilian targets?Goymerica has set a precedent of committing war crimes and there is no reason to expect that this won't continue.You are not only monumentally stupid but unapologetically evil too. Please perish.
>>532788235>girls as human shieldsOk so you're just a jew rat.Fuck off jew rat.I would actually be ok with the war continuing, you know. Things might be a little more expensive, but every day it continues I wake up to more dead jews. That's worth every penny.
>>532788231You don't understand. Soldiers drink water, so it's okay to blow up all the waterworks (of course as long as we are doing it; when done to us it's a war crime)
>>532788231that's a good guess but it's not actually how the law is interpreted.the geneva convention lets the attacker determine if a facility is dual use, and generally there is no such thing as a civilian-only power plant despite your incorrect reading of the statute.that is how we legally hit hundreds of power plants and bridges in the first week of the gulf war and the iraq war. even though they have no missile cities at all. the geneva convention was written on purpose to help us take out every power plant in the country under color of law, not to stop us from doing so. it tells you when it's ok to hit power, bridges, water, even hospitals, with the answer usually being up to the attacker's judgment. SAVE ME POST WWII LAWS WRITTEN BY AMERICANS AND KIKES TO HELP THEM CRUSH UPPITY COLONIALS lol lmao even
>>532788251>Why are you nitpickingbecause you're being a histrionic bitch who thinks normal week one war manuevers like wrecking power plants are muh war crimes.you're crying wolf, but it's not your political capital to piss away. there are actual victims of war crimes who are harmed by your wolf crying. you never think about that.
>>532784372>>532783973Maybe they’re really gonna get sanction relief and oil ship payments? They may be buying time to send Yuans to Russia and China in order to pay for the arms they sent them. It makes sense. Iran probably also wants to ship out oil to China via rail ASAP, probably as much as possible. Maybe it was China and Russia that said it was time to take a breather to make the trades.
>>532788235Why would anyone use kids as human shield against amerikikes, when it only increases the probability of bombing?
>>532782679Or you know, they got what they wanted when trump cucked.
>>532788457>I am anti war!>What war crimes? Shut up! I'm preventing war!You are ridiculous, jew.Blowing up schools full of children is a war crime.
>>532786088>Short of atomics, there's not really anything Russia can give Iran that's better than what they already had.Doesn't have to be better, just has to be more. "Experts talk about logistics ..." etc.
>>532784063China might be buying time to get some oil out before the americans bomb their rail lines.We’ll only be able to speculate long after everything resolves, if it in fact is resolving.
>>532788542It's only a war crime if you lose and the opponents can punish you
>>532786088Seeing an oreshnik strike on Tel Aviv would make me cum in my pants.
>>532788386Lieshttps://genevasolutions.news/peace-humanitarian/targeting-bridges-power-plants-in-iran-puts-washington-at-risk-of-committing-war-crimes>b-but we committed war crimes with impunity beforeYeah. You did. Go jerk off to it, psycho freak
>>532788542we had three clean hits on an IRGC facility in minab. there were civilians present, and international law shifts culpability to defenders in that situation. don't worry, the monsters who used those girls as human shields have already been brought to justice in accordance with international law.>>532788346it's ok anonthe animals who used those girls as human shields (the legally responsible parties under the geneva convention) have already been brought to justice.soon we will use their assets and those of the regime's supporters to compensate their many victims in minab and elsewhere.
>>532788728>links some kiked interpretationread the law, retard.it tells you when you can hit power plants. not only are all the criteria are satisfied here, but the law shifts criminal responsibility to IRAN for any damage done.https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/api-1977/article-56I am truly sorry that the laws written by americans and kikes after WWII to help us crush our enemies with impunity didn't work out the way you expected, but calling it lies won't fix it.
Iran has no reason to meet the judiazed USA now. JewSA who begged Pakistan to beg them for a ceasefire while agreeing to their terms, and the next day claiming we threw their terms in the trash and claimed Pakistan and Iran were wrong Israel had to abide. JewSA who declared war because couldn't handle Iran having freedom of speech and right to bear arms. Who committed the crime of perfidy attacking them during negotiations. Disgusting jewish government
>>532788917>Only if it's used in regular, significant and direct support of military operations and if such attack is the only feasible way to terminate such support>Lol, lmao we decide when that's the case therefore it's not war crimes!Ok I'm realizing belatedly you're jewish. I don't argue with jews as a matter of principle
>>532789325>if it's used in regular, significant and direct support of military operationsyes, plus it leaves the attacking party to make the determination, without any higher review.> I'm realizing belatedly the geneva convention is jewishexactly. congratulations on speerunning your way to "acceptance" the final stage of grief. my job is done.
>>532783335Dirty Pakis are subhuman scum. The entire middle east should be turned into a glass crater. Israel included.>>532783394Good. And it should be that way until the IRGC is replaced with a non-muzzite government.
>>532783814Tolls are literally illegal under international Maritime law. No one is going to abide by that shit.Iran SAYS it's going to charge tolls. Iran isn't actually going to do shit though, because they lack the power to do so.
>>532789457>Good. And it should be that way until the IRGC is replaced with a non-muzzite government.would settle for blairi'ite islam
>>532789589>Tolls are LITORALLY ILLEGAL under international Maritime lawsorry, not our treatyUS and iran will be charging a toll from now on. we're looking forward to the strongly worded letters from the EU and GCC.
>>532789623No mudslime. FUCK ISLAM.Either secular or fuck off. To hell with your dirty semite religions.
>>532789589Straight of Hormuz are internal waters co owned by Iran and Oman. Similar to how the Gulf of California is Mexico internal waters. They are not international waters
>>532789725Wrong.Straight of Hormuz is owned by no one you brown retard.
>>532789589strait status?>>532782679they're b8'ing isreal into hitting nuclear armed first use Pakistanthey obviously wouldn't nuke isreal but this would take all the Pakistani pressure off Iran regarding the whole thing and specially regarding Iran's attacks on saudi arabia
>>532789976OPEN you brown subhuman.
>>532789797Trump said anyone can go try to take it. Whoever takes it owns it. Iran took it. Iran owns it and has always owned it. And you nor anyone else are going to take it back from them. You are going to pay a toll now to find Iran reconstruction
>>532782679a two week truce means one thing thousands of drones and missle materialsMeanwhile 2 week is like 20 inteceptors max
>>532790622old newsamerica will be collecting the toll now
>>532782679no retard it's a fake peace deal>USA accept the terms it's huge win for them and US bends Knee>peace doesn't happen cause of israelSplits israel and the USA, now trump has to choose, if he chooses israel everyone gonna blme israel for not having peace, this will make them loose boomers.
>>532784237>>532784313>>Option #3>defaulting to LE HUMANITY ISN'T TRULY EVIL, IT MUST BE SOME MASTERMINDget real, dumbfuck. any variation of some "god" is the most inane shit at this point. I have no problem with spirituality or religion, but offloading the evils (or even goods) of the world to some hypothetical creature is some cuck shit. humanity needs to own up to their sins (not just their accomplishments) instead of deferring it to some nebulous future.