People always say "society was safer with the death penalty" no it wasn't. Every society was far more dangerous when death penalty executions were common place. We obviously live in much safer societies now without the death penalty. Why do people still want the death penalty yet it does nothing to benefit society at all?
>>532782958Nigger problems necessitate nigger solutions
>>532782958>blah blah blah don't kill me for murdering your child blah blah blah I'm a jew so it's okay to kill you, rape your baby and drink her blood blah blah.. capital punishment does so make the world a better place.
>>532782958It kills criminals, saves tax money, and is better than rotting for what's left of your life. I have zero empathy for murderers, sex traffickers and legit rapists (not I don't consent 20 years later bullshit). Bad people being removed from society permanently is a good thing
>>532782958Only more dangerous for criminals.
>>532783046Blacks were just as out of control as they are today when the death penalty was enforced more often. Like I said, it did nothing to make society safer.
>>532782958Some people do things that disqualify them from living in the same plane of reality as the rest of us.I really dont care what your argument is, I refuse to live on the same planet as people who torture children, and suicide is not an option.
>>532783080Leo Franks execution achieved what exactly?
>>532783148Justice.
Because they're sadistic pricks who are cowards that follow the law to the T for their safety and no other reason, while intentionally using it to fuck over people they hate.
>>532783157All it did was help legitimize the formation of the ADL and didn't change a thing. As I said before capital punishment solves nothing.
>>532783214So he should have just walked free on the false pardon he received?You are a cuckold.
>>532783148Other kikes started to hide doing rape and murder when they realized that they can't bribe their way out of it.
Life imprisonment works just fine as an alternative to execution.You could argue that execution would save some money, and you'd be wrong, but then you'd argue that if it were made simpler then it would, and you might be right, but either way it's negligible.
>>532783244He should have been punished as perscribed by the law not mob "justice".
>>532783214The ADL is not legit, they're demon worshiping lairs and pedophiles.
>>532783299that was it, the governor was bribed by the damned kikes. I knew you were a fucking jew from your stupid Op. even as Israel is murdering Palestinians. You're not kvetching about the bad jewsThis is why you don't belong in a civilized world.
>>532783371I'm not jewish it's just mob "justice" is never the answer and sets a very dangerous precedent.
>>532783299Mob justice is the purest form of justice. Again, you are a cuckold.
>>532783111you cant rely on statistics for everything. you wouldn’t jump into water with a great white shark just because shark attacks are extremely rare.the automobile empowered white people to run away from black settlements, and various technologies have steadily increased productivity at lower costs. you don’t even need to imagine a world without niggers, it exists already. white people in europe don’t have magical cracker genes, we’re all cut from the same cloth. so much more is possible.
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>>532782958Because they don't understand that those who pass death sentences are the ones who deserve the electric chair and the gallows the most... because they are LEGALIZED MURDERERS, THIEVES, FRAUDSTERS, RAPISTS... the elite consists of those who have always broken the law to achieve power and resources.
>>532782958It was, actually.Europe and Britain became nice high trust societies because they spent a couple of centuries culling their underclass.And it's in the Bible so yes it is moral.>>532783085Criminality is largely inherited so it not only removes the criminal but it takes them out of the gene pool.>>532783111Go look at stock footage of them in the fifties and sixties. They absolutely were better behaved. It takes a few generations though for lasting improvement..
>>532782958Jews deserve this and so much worse
>>532783318>>532783214They were formed the same year as the Federal Reserve.
>>532782958retarded nigger does not understand connotation does not mean causation. many such cases.
>>532782958uhhh. yes it does (see Singapore and Japan). If it's carried out consistently and expediently for serious crimes, the deterrence is effective. Liberals spent decades hamstringing every step of the process from legally mandating endless appeals, denial of proper tools and other shenanigans that makes it whole thing a legal nightmare to carry out. They also fund anti death penalty PR campaigns that make jury selection a nightmare for prosecutors. This means you actually have a better chance skating a murder conviction in a jury trial if the DA is pushing for the death penalty, which is why it's rarely pursued and usually reserved for cases where there's already enough evidence and public outrage to secure a conviction.
>>532783261>You could argue that execution would save some money, and you'd be wrongI'm sure you've run the numbers and aren't just repeating some liberal talking point so at what point does a life imprisonment break even with the cost of the death penalty? 20 years? 30 years? Your argument is that they appeal but lifers can appeal too so I don't see how that would increase the cost enough to outweigh an extra 10-30 years of imprisonment. Show me the figures that prove me wrong.
>>532783706It's "correlation does not equal causation" you spud-dumpling-brained Polski negro. Connoting is something else entirely.
>total societal collapse can't happen soon enoughthe only reason anything would think this is a complete disconnection from reality. not understanding the basic reasoning of humanity and a inability to think laterally has become a major stumbling block for the progression of humanity and i'm tired of pretending it hasn't.i hope OPs entire family is raped and slaughtered so as to end its genetic line
>>532783865whatever, still it doesn't change reality.
>>532782958>Capital punishment is immoralSo was committing the crime that called for it as punishment.>has no benefit>society is better without itCorporal punishment makes people afraid to break the law. Laws benefit everyone when they are followed and enforced. So you are completely wrong. You just want to rape kids without consequence.
>>532783826Show me the figures to that prove yourself right.Since we're talking about law, assigning correct burden of proof seems appropriate.
>>5327839991) Sick trips2) More hangingsC'mon. I promise it's fun.
>>532784066I'm not the one making the claim that capital punishment costs more than life imprisonment, you are. So tell me the break even point where a person would cost less to die than be imprisoned. What if they're there for 50 years? There's no way capital punishment would cost more than that.
>>532782958>Every society was far more dangerous when death penalty executions were common place.Beyond the obvious confounding factors, this approach does not account for the genetic impact of executing the worst members of the criminal element of society, and how this can only unfold through relatively long periods of time. It is literally the most obvious and intuitive form of eugenics, and it kills evil people who oppress everyone else anyway. It doesn't even have to be state enforced.
>>532782958Konrad Curze would beg to differ.
>>532783563>the elite consists of those who have always broken the law to achieve power and resourcesThey are overrepresented, but not the totality of them, and passing death sentences to evil people who have committed evident and undeniable acts of aggression so severe they deprive an innocent person of all potential self-determination and experiences is a good thing. Although a better solution is to leave them at the mercy of the best fit among the living to carry out the will of the victim, be it lethal vengeance or enslaving mercy.
>>532784385exactly so. it's why i'm a activist for compulsory reversible sterilization at birth. humans should earn the right to replicate based on suitability of progeny rather than it being a natural right. we can look at countries such as India, China and Africa for prime examples of what happens when low IQ, socio-dependent entities are allowed to breed prolifically with zero intervention.removing only the unviable from these three countries (temporarily) ends the current overpopulation issue and would allow the designation of resources to a overall improvement of society
>>532783599>Criminality is largely inherited so it not only removes the criminal but it takes them out of the gene pool.Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>532782958SEA executes junkies. Is there any drug problem over there?
Do you think your government is corrupt and incompetent?Do you believe it should be able to decide who lives and dies?If you want actual justice and satisfaction, frontier justice is the way to go.
oh i see the latest news of the nigger that stabbed iryna has ignited a new wave of bullshit shill propaganda gud luck getting everyone to not hate worthless fucking niggers glowniggersgud luck
>>532784892>Do you have a single fact to back that up?lmao faggot
>>532782958Singapore has severe corporal punishment and death penalty as standard for serious offenses and evwn for drug offenses above a certain amount and is constantly among the safest cities in the world and the policy has overwhelming supirt from the populace. Fuck around and find out as policy works incredibly well as a crime deterrent and death penalty and severe criminal punishment does not automatically mean witch hunts and stuggle sessions. We could have a discussion about open societies, freedom, rights, the potential dangers in empowering the state to those ends, and even christian morality as an underpinning of western law both in the rights framework being derived from principles of natural law and in how christian ideals of forgiveness and redemption influence our laws but first you've got to start being fucking honest and stop spewing made up bullshit.
>>532782958Rolling for OP to be crucified for our entertainment
>>532784758There is no overpopulation issue, retard. Also, I am just minimizing long term the amount of times the natural rights of would be victims will be trampled by selecting through already revealed behavior which inherently contradicts those natural rights (which is a performative rejection of such notion), and not some arbitrary predictive model or standard that can be easily manipulated and sold to the niggercattle.Specifically, we should be executing violent and murderous psychopaths, which fall outside the universal ethical set of agents due to their inherent moral limitations, making them of another nature in this regard, and therefore not a "similarly situated individual" from a perspective of moral universalism
i guess in principle i don't like capital punishment but then when i learn the details of the crimes these people commit, i just feel like its not a cause worth getting worked up over.
>>532783148It got rid of leo frank. Definitively.
>>532784933No, the state is just one option. Ideally private parties deliver justice in a more accountable manner.
>>532782958>OP is immoral, has no benefit, and society is better without it
>>532783422Mob justice is better than state injustice, and it is not the only alternative to state justice.
>>532782958This faggot touches kids
>>532782958Maybe you didn't think this one trough. Yes we are living in safer societies now than decades ago. But this is just a result of advancement on many levels. Maybe modern societies would be even more safe when we would execute criminals like they did back than. Maybe older societies would be even less safe if they wouldn't execute their criminals back than.
>>532782958It make an example, aka diminishing crimes in your neighborhood and saving tax money on law enforcement.
>>532782958Is that pilpul? It's not done to make society better and no one but vile jews ever said it is.For example, when the jews are genocided once and for all, it's just because it's just a great idea because the world is tired of jewish bullshit.
>>532782958Shalom, you deserve it.
>>532783148>justice for victim and family>one less kike>one less pedo murderer>kikes scaredPlenty.
>>532782958We still have the death penalty, retard. That's why our society is so safe.
>>532782958Bukelele literally proved that if you stop repeat offenders crime takes a nose dive
>>532782958Dead niggers don't cost taxpayer dollars for 60 more years
>>532783261>You could argue that execution would save some money, and you'd be wrongDoesn't it cost like 30-80k per year per inmate to keep a inmate in jail?
>>532787793>>532783261Nvm, Google says 44k-300k
>>532782958>We obviously live in much safer societies now without the death penalty.No, we don't.
>>532785178>There is no overpopulation issueyour post proves otherwise. come back when you can construct a cohesive argument that makes a iota of sense
>>532783148Well it made him a good jew for starters
>>532782958there is no need to go for such barbaric executions though.the psycho who stabbed someone, went to prison, and immediately stabbed someone again upon release is not re-integrable. if you leave him alive, all you do is tie a massive resource black hole to yourself, with the added risk that he might escape and stab yet another person.it is in everyone's best interest to remove them from the equation, but give them a clean death.
>>532782958billions must die
>>532787659>one less pedo murdererOnce we line the Via Appia with the crucified bodies of every multi-millionaire and upwards, then this could hold any water. Before that, the pedos will still run rampant. Lynching one person changes nothing, except giving the powers that be the opportunity to ignore the flimsy pretense of the law themselves if they feel like it.>kikes scaredAnd they are so, so scared. You never hear them do anything anymore since then, because they are just that scared, right?
>>532783148It created the ADL which fights daily to help precious jews.
Modern society is safer because of the death penalty that existed in the past as it helped to weed out all the violent criminal genes. Abortion also helped a lot as future criminals weren't born.
the USA had no death penalty carried out for nearly 10 years 1967-77, and it was a better place defend yourself, kill criminals in action, that is one thingbut the coldness of executions is something psychopathic85% of countries are fine without itpicrel the USA's worst legal moment
>>532782958you left out the ubiquitous Chinese smog wagon, it's just a sealed up cargo van where the exhaust goes into the cargo area.
