Thoughts? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazca_culture
Believed to have spoken Proto-Aymaran.
Bolivians and peruvoids are all mongolic
>>532799509Here is a Proto-Mexican Baby.
>>532799348depicted where you dumb faggot? learn english
The Olmecs are believed like their ancestors the Mokaya (Corn People) to have spoken Proto-Mixe-Zoquean or perhaps the later Proto-Zoquean.
Some ugly fuckers
>>532799998Southern Coastal Peru, basically Nazca was later phase of Paracas Culture.
>>532799460inb4 protestants come in saying we wuz the Nazcans
>>532800186Are you okay, anon?Are the protestants in the room with you right now?
>>532800186I see the slight resemblance between those Nazca Mummies and the American Gothic Husband and Wife though. Same grim yet wholesome aesthetic.
We wuz the original nazcas and shit
>>532800133please kill yourself you illiterate faggot
>>532800371Theories claim they are anatolians and that current descendants of the south american desert people are the true modern anatolians
>>532800455Chileans for sure have a better claim on Anatolia than modern turks do
>>532800544I don't think so, look at those heads full of red hair am sure they are irish
>>532800388No.
>>532800455>>532800544>>532800616Modern Amazonian Natvies are strongly inclined to have reddish hair as children. It's the general ANE ancestry. Interestingly though the Mapuche remind me of Turkic and Uralic tribes culturally and linguistically.
>>532800111Built for harsh conditions including war.
>>532800768My own north chile family has a red hair phase, and people blame the sun for their hair changing color as they grow up or get older but is more likely geneticsLike anything antrophology in Chile is severely understudied
>>532801170You are of the Lickan Antay? Very interesting people their whole society was quite advanced despite living in the driest region on Earth with both Tiwanaku and Inca influences.
My wife's family has Wari in the name because they were kangs and sheit (xhe's from Peru)
>>532801323Visiting Tiwanaku-ACK! btw in 2 months
>>532799722El Protomutanto
It’s a known fact their and other cultures from the area were be-heading enjoyers. No one enjoyed it as much as the Māori though they would preserve them and bust em out for holidays and get togethers only semi-recently knocked it off when The Rock and the rest of thr civilized world was like “hey you gotta knock this goofy shit off or you’re never getting a Disney movie”
Apologize to me, now.
>>532801323Am from a sort of an undiscovered civilization in atacama closer to the coast but not fully coastal, archeology in chile is neglected as possible and they know next to nothing about the life and people due to geographical conditions we went unknown by the literature during the spaniard colonization and the archeological studies are in diapers, to this day I just go to what it was my great grandmother town to look for arrow tips and ceramic and science has no clue am doing it
>>532801440That's fascinating, Aymaras are indeed the heirs of Wari Empire. >>532801542There was a huge cold war between the Aymaran speaking Wari and the Tiwanaku who spoke Puquina. Eventually the Tiwanaku collapsed but so did the Wari prompting the Aymaran people to migrate to the Altiplano to found City States themselves conquered by the formerly Puquina speaking Inca who switched to Classical Quechua.
>>532801867Sounds like Diaguitas. Once believed to have spoken Kunza but probably spoke a different language isolate themselves.
>>532800544>>532800768Look up Mongol spots. All south Americans / central Americans and Mexicans are born with these big blue spots on their lower backs, its how they know if youre more native than white, when you're born with the spots. Its super prevalent in native kids / mestizo kids
>>532799348I bet she voted for it
>>532801741Imagine a 18th century Māori version of Cannibal Holocaust.
>>532801795No!
>>532802222Most likely... Women warriors like Joan of Arc and Boudica always lose!
>>532802199My son is half native-american (more than half since I myself have native blood too) and wasn't born with these spots, despite having rather almond eyes and a slight epicanthal fold, I think it's prevalent but not the rule
>>532802199This is true!
>>532802171They use diaguita as a generic term for natives of chile and argentina, if you follow the generic denomination the diaguitas were a huge empire big enough to rival the incas and regularly crossed the andes on it's highest points, in reality they just made similar ceramics
>>532801952Didn't know about that, that's cool. It's good to see they have preservated so much of their native culture, in Brazil, native culture is totally alien, unfortunately. Even their language is preservated.
>>532802300Damm you, pirate
>>532802576At least you don't have the bald head gene most Euros inherit. The only real plus natives have over Euros is the never balding gene. You guys get long healthy hair well into your elderly years
>>532802641Interestingly with Brasil the Caipira/Paulista dialect has a huge amount of Old Tupi vocabulary. Somehow Caipiras/Paulistas are the truest Brazilians much like how Metis/Countryborn are truest Canadians.
>>532802762My father is bald due to shit*lianoid DNA, I hope I won't suffer the same fate, for my mother has native genetics. But indeed, I have never seen a bald bolivian/peruvian. Hell I even see bald chinese and japanese.
>>532802681:)>>532802762I won't go bald either but I am not sure what my ancestry is beyond the European.
>>532802949We do have a huge native influence in several points, including foods like açai, tapioca plus several others.It's just sad how people here are so neglectful about native heritage. Even Mexicans, Peruvians and Bolivians appreciate it, but Brazil is a different case.
>>532802602They were powerful but never a united entity, they did speak many dialects of Kakán though.
>>532802641Besides peruvians archeology on south america is pathetic, argentinians can dig up dinosaurs better than they recognize native cultures, all because ignoring native cultures is how they unified the countries in the late 19th centuryChile is specially awful, Atacama culture is a direct relative of Nazca culture so close they may have been the same culture, but Nazca is peruvian so the north chileans cant' call themselves nazcas, better call them diaguitas so they are argentiniansThis is how silly it gets in practice
>>532801440The name’s Bond. Michael Bond.
>>532801741I can’t believe they don’t even turn the skulls of their enemies into goblets like civilized Europeans
>>532803177Diaguitas were more influenced by the Tiwanaku Puquina than the Aymaran Nazca, for instance the Tiwanaku practiced Animal and Human sacrifice which was likely also practiced by the Diaguita through the word Zupka for a sacrificial altar.
>>532803346Actually a Hunnic/Turko-Mongol tradition.
>>532803156Sometimes it goes both ways, we have Englishmen LARPing as Britons and Vikings these days because Anglo-Saxon is taboo.
>>532799722He was foretold
>>532800133the better evidence is the Paracas had different genetics from the Nazca and the Paracas were genocided by the Nazca. The dna tests show the Paracas have genetics more similar to people from the Black Sea area. And lets not talk about red hair and the elongated skulls... which are NOT from artificial deformation practices. No, lets talk about it.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PP9B6l_burY&pp=ygUWYnJpZW4gZm9lcnN0ZXIgcGFyYWNhcw%3D%3D>>532800388nigger brain
The Olmecs were cool as fuck.
>>532803390Is tough to say, if you follow the inca road you notice they had, a highway right at the middle of the desert that was probably the main cultural influence and of course following the beach road, the most natural way to get there, will make them interconnected with paracas much more than argentina, the oldest culture of the atacama desert is chinchorro in what is now Arica, this is way closer to paracas than to bolivia or central chile, they had to trade with them and be influenced by them, the most amazing thing are the houses, the north chile house was a rectangle with two waters, a square with a triangle roof, the most generic house you can imagine is impossible to tell how old they are just by looking at them from a layman perspective, they were made with cut stones and mud mortar and I don't believe even experts can tell which house is ancient and which post colonial
>>532803631From the steamy jungles of 1400 B.C. La Venta to the shopping trolleys along the aisles of Walmart... Are happy fat Mexican babies! >>532803680It could be but they haven't found much archaeological replacement from Paracas to Nazca and Ica which usually implies strong continuity.
>>532804425TRUE Nahuatl WARRIORS drink coca cola since the first days in order to fend off the bad spirits and please Santita Huitzilopochtli (Trve tradcaths)
>>532804152You have to follow the old linguistic and cultural clues, roads can be misleading as much as leading depending how you follow. Chinchorro I think was much closer to the Changos or even the Uru people of lake Titicaca. Nazca and Paracas was much further west on the point where Peru bends up again where the Aymara lived between the Puquina, the Quechuas and Chavin.
>>532804774Mayans are the worst offenders Coca-Cola overconsumption atm (Which isn't even a traditional Native beverage), I think the Nahuas still just drink the Pulque.
>>532804993Sugar addiction is a true problem across natives, most bolivians/peruvians I've seen here tend to be overweight.
>>532803857TRVE! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesoamerican_rubber_balls
>>532805122I can attest this to myself... Love the Chocolate!
>>532804808Makes sense when you are there, the inca road is done in a way you could walk from tambo to tambo, is a cruel harsh desert but has water ways from the mountains to the coast those valleys developed culture, the dry land in between is dry land and the coast is all habitable, has few storms nice fishing and cold waters due to humboldt current from antarticaWhat is misunderstood the most is chango or coastal culture, they used the whole coast and is full human habitation evidence everywhere, piles of eaten clamshells every 20 kilometers or less that go back to the stone age
>>532799348they do a little trolling
>>532805206Both. Have you ever trying to drink chocolate? I mean, boiling some cocoa like this picrel filtering then adding some sugar.Totally recomend
>>532805457I really need to do this.
>>532805333I think the mountainous lifestyles of most Andeans originally began along the coasts and they went more inland as resources either became more scarce or contested, I think this was exemplified from the Nazca to Wari transition. I could be wrong but I have a hunch based on what I have seen that's how it happened.
>>532805738Except the Puquina who likely came from Pre-Proto-Arawakan stock inland into the forests but this is based on other's theories.
>>532805738And it's incredible how adapted they are, someone should make a half andinean and half tibetan to make the apex mountainer. I am so fucking excited to see the Andes, I will also go to the Yungas, but the Andes have their own might, there is nothing similar at all here in Brazil, and I believe the same thing applies to Britain. Do you intend visiting the Andes or have you already done so?
>>532806187I might go to the Andes but Southern Mexico looks inviting too (Eve&oe the violence). I'll just have to tell them I am a chubby Autist.
>>532805738Makes sense, at some point they had full contact with easter island but am clueless how far back that is
>>532806390Plus it has nice food, maybe even better than andinean food I guess (which is good too)
>>532806402I think it was 1250-1350 A.D. All East Polynesians have Chocoan ancestry from Colombia yet the Easter Islanders have the most Chocoan ancestry from a second importation of Natives to there... Read it in a Science article.
>>532806647I had this thought of what if a planet was seeded by aliens with Proto-Arnhem Land Speaking Aboriginals from Australia, Mixe-Zoquean speaking Olmecs and Proto-Aymaran speaking Nazcas... Would love Jade Ornaments and Llamas!
>>532806751Read the same thingOk so this makes the sinking of lemuria around a thousand years A.D.
>>532807043Lemuria was in Indian Ocean, you mean Mu. I am sceptical of Mu since Polynesian settlements seem to have suffered from resource overexploitation common on islands.
