Bro, I'm just visiting. I'm not coming back, by the way.
The Apostle's Creed attests that Pontius Pilate persecuted our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. But we know that John 18:33-38 says otherwise. Pontius Pilate seems more interested in discussing the philosophical and ontological nature of truth than in persecuting Christ for His version of the truth.>38: "What is truth?"In fact, when Jesus Christ is brought before Pilate, he directly tells Jesus that it is the Israelis and their cheif priests behind the arrest.>35: "Your own nation and the chief priests handed you over to me. What have you done?"John 18 ends with Pilate telling the Jews that he finds no guilt in Christ, but the Jews protest!So at the start of John 19 we see that Pontius has Jesus whipped to please the zealous and angry Jews. But Pontius has not decided to charge Jesus, even after whipping him.>John 19:4 "Look, I am bringing him out to you, so that you may know that I find no guilt in him."Pontius is wiping his hands clean of the judgment on Christ. As you see throughout the following verses, Pontius Pilate does everything in his power to avoid persecution of Christ!
I think White Europeans are mind-raped in general.Jews created a box called christianity, and Europeans have been bouncing around in that box for 1700 years. Nietzsche then came along and correctly diagnosed the box-think. Jews were threatened by Neitzsche because he was the first philosopher since Roman times to reject Abrahamic constructs in their entirety. But then Nietzsche went crazy with lust for a jewess, so he didn't escape the box either. The only way you can pride yourself as a proud European is to reject Abrahamic thought. Otherwise you're a slave of jews.
>>532803986Who is considered a ubermensch by nietszche lol
>>532803986rage on, tranny
>>532804204you're a retardpagans are worthlessatheists are leftists
how much of school is early brainwashing to ceaselessly program into you false-history of self-hate and that is called teaching, or education?
>>532803986Shall we talk about Islam next OP?
>>532804204Christianity treating jews favourably is a recent phenomenon.What, do you think regular expulsions, pogroms and restrictions on what jews can do in christian kingdoms is actually some jewish ploy?
>>532805614Ah yes Islam cucked us for 1,000 years and is psychological harm majorly entrenched in our thinking and behind our modern degeneration. Let's just repeat our points for a shittier photocopy adding nothing of value and losing fidelity of thought, because anon is fuming and wants to deflect. no, I don't think I shall. At least Arabs are semites so it's somewhat natural to them.
>>532803986Alhamduleellah. Al-Zutt be upon ye'.
>>532805968Holy Copium
>>532805968
>>532806220>I'm the one coping>Not the guy deflecting to another topicOkay. I accept your concession, 'Bride of Christ'.
>>532804910He typed that on purpose to piss off the mindless antisemites who are the vast majority. His critique of jewry goes way beyond their confined horizon.
>>532805964Lying chtistkike
>>532805964
>>532806454You sound upset for some reason
>>532804910
>>532806591So this is how you defend your messiah, deflect to another topic entirely. Great Truth Way and Light you have there Connor.
>>532806716Okay well you wanted to talk about pedophiles, I thought I could bring up a religion that has them and it's completely canon, Abdullah
>>532803986Agecucks hate Jesus because His mother was a young virgin while their mother was an aging whore.
>>532807322>meme meta from 2016I can see why you would get sensitive but it's been a big thing on the internet the last two years about how Jesus is a paedo and child trafficker for Mark 10. Maybe karma is the real spiritual principle you should be thinking about, for all those years you spammed Muslims and are still doing so just to defend puritan suffragettes. I don't care about it though, do you think Ammon Hillman is a Muslim? How about they are both kike religions? AOC is feminist indoctrination anyway. I am a Roman pagan. Age of majority for girls to Greeks was menses at 12 like everywhere else including Britain for 600 years til kikes decided to give women 'rights'. Stop simping.
>>532803986all real christians know it is the fulfillment of judaism. that's why dispensationalism is a heresy
>>532807826Kek
>>532807322That can literally be every abrahamic religion
>>532807826>Age of majority for girls to Greeks was menses at 12 like everywhere else including Britain for 600 years til kikes decided to give women 'rights'.>Apollo and Zeus are the gods of patriarchal legal authority and social institutions>Greeks did not even allow women outside for anything but pagan ritual and funeral processions. They saw it as novel that Spartans allowed women outside for exercise. They placed the age of maidenhood at the onset of puberty, at 12, when she was fit to be married.>Scholia on Orestes (ancient commentary on a Greek tragedy).It remarks at the Spartans allowing women outside for exercise as novel. Women were only allowed outside for exercise (among Spartans), funeral rites, and ritual processions.It furthermore remarks that a girl is a mature maiden as soon as she enters puberty, at 12, and ready to be married.Patriarchy is European. Europe is Graeco-Roman, not Judaeo-Christian-Marxist.
>>532807826That's a lot of words.Anyway, you ever hear of The Prophet Mohammed?
>>532807927No. Nigger.
>>532807894Wrong. There is one still canonically doing just that to this day. >To this dayRe read this very carefully before you make assumptions
>>532807826May we see proof that you're a "Roman pagan" ?
>>532807974
>>532807826Ammon Hillman talks and looks like a literal crackhead, do you usually listen to crackheads for wisdom, anon? Just taking a look at the guy and hearing how he talks is enough to dismiss him. Not to mention that all he does is and the whole point of his "thesis" is insisting on using a different meaning for words by ignoring context (like all disingenous atheists do), if I call you a faggot, would you take that I am calling you a bundle of sticks? Or perhaps something else? Its no different from what Demon Hillman does. Faggot.
>>532805964>Christianity treating jews favourably is a recent phenomenon.False.>>532804967You worship a jew and books by jews and fables by jews. You are the ultimate goy slave. You are mad at anyone who shirks this slavery. That's it.
>>532805614>>532806127>christcucks think deflecting to another Yahweh religion (that has the same lore as their own) is gonna workOH NO NO NO
>>532808486See>>532807983
>>532804366Who cares? Fool died of syphilis. You gotta be a complete loser to adopt his ravings.
>>532804156It doesn't matter, considering he chose his position and power over justice.
>>532804204>jewessKek
>>532808065Sacrificial fire. The sacred fire was at the centre of every home across Indo-European cult of the patrician hearthfire, and the Vestal fires of Rome, gathering 30 fires of 30 families. Shut down by Christians. Excuse the wheelbarrow, normally I use a focus, but this time it was locked away. I am actually burning a t-shirt of Jesus Christ I found in this pic. I did a fire just 2 days ago, but didnt take pics. and plan to do many more this summer.
>>532808350Mister, these are roman laws. Catholicism didn’t exist before Charlemagne decided Pope can crown Roman emperorsAlso not adressing my points
>>532808981>>532808065Me offering incense and food to the genius of the Roman emperors. In an imperial temple, the altar was for the living emperor and the walls were for the genius of past emperors.Me offering incense and food to the genius of the Roman emperors. In an imperial temple, the altar was for the living emperor and the walls were for the genius of past emperors.Muhammad famously smashed all the statues in the ka'aba like Chriggers did in Rome for jews. this is highly heretical in Islam and would warrant death penalty in an Islamic country. I do it on special holidays and the Ides of March.
>>532809071Other assorted statues in lararium. Victory, Zeus, and Apollo (imperial cult god) where I make regular offerings and burn incense an make prayers whensoever I please.
>>532808981>>532809071>>532809169I meant a timestamp of your hand to be specific
>>532809242Also are you a Zoomer?
>>532803986Nietzsche praises Jews multiple times in Beyond Good and Evil.Read Nietzsche instead of cherry picking quotes and you’ll see he’s a huge faggot
>>532804204>I think White Europeans are mind-raped in general.yup, looks terminal as well, the priest was truly mightier than the warrior, an entire continent mentally raped by semites who, by having the upper hand in spiritual/psychological warfare, not only halted indo-european conquests south but effectively reversed the roles: it's almost unbelievable that there was a time Europe was constantly doing the push south through fire and steel, now barely 2000 years after semites are about to deal the final blow
>>532809418He was being ironical. You need to read his letters as well.
>>532804156honest question: what did the jews find Jesus guilty of? What were the crimes they charged him with/why did they turn him over to the romans?
>>532804910>>532804967Back again posting your clipped quotes without context, in a feeble attempt to promote your punitive slave cult, anon? Your niggerish claims are transparently false when held up to the obvious truth. Abrahamic religions are enslavement of White men.
>>532809345I'm 34.These are old/new pics from storage showing me consistently practicing Roman patrician cult for years, while listening to classical music.>timestamp w handLol.>wants to save the west>anon doesnt even worship divus julius. defends kike antics
>>532810281Your hand please anon
>>532808981>>532809071>>532809169based. I have also been looking toward the old gods, who men saw as aspirational role models, and valued their strengths, while learning from their weaknesses. I abhor Abrahamic religions, which are punitive and servile, demanding obedience and worship from your knees. What a cowardly class of “man” to beg for providence, while turning other cheeks and ostracizing sinners.
>>532810905Please stop samefagging yourself on your VPN. Mods please this should be bannable because of how abused it is. Bring back IP counters
>>532809845Yeah man, total slavement.That's why the West was at its peak under Christianity and it's currently doing even better now that they've abandoned itOh wait..
>>532804910>its realfucking lmao anyone posting this clown is automatically a faggot
>>532804910And then G-d gave him a brain tumor
>>532803986Let's worship Jews like Julian the apostate did
>>532808486Outside of the masoretic text, find me one time that god was called yawah
>>532811009>>532811009Total shill collapse. Going to continue being an antagonistic heel after youve lost? not surprise youre a christ worshipper. Relax Connor. Your big beak isnt getting any less spotty. men are speaking.>>532810905Good on you. Just some thoughts: The old religions do not believe in faith, they are rather 'operative' and believe in praxis. 'Do ut des'. I give that you give. Bowing to god and sinfulness are semitic influences. Fire represents the male principle and intellection/mentation. It was worshipped from Germania to Indo-Iran to Rome. Nothing has empowered me and my wellbeing more than Roman stoicism with a dabbling of advaita/zen buddhism. Romans refused to kneel before the gods and considered it insulting, as a real god would want a strong practitioner, not the meek and castrated, just as a king would prefer to be a king over other kings, not slaves. Kikes turned off the Roman vestal fire after 1100 years, set by the King Numa Pompilius.The Rig Veda is an Aryan text with many concepts and linguistics in common with Western languages. The sacral fire is 'Ignis' in latin and 'Agni' in Sanskrit. There are only a handful of prayers to Surya, the highest spiritual Sun, but 200+ to the sacral fire. underscoring its importance. it repeatedly stresses its masculine, aristocratic and fatherly aspect. it is chariot to the gods, and guardian. 'pater' was a royal epithet for senators, gods, and royalty in Rome. Jesus said 'hate the father'. So much in the Bible cannot be understood without knowing the religion it attacked.do a sacral fire at home like our ancestors. reignite the masculine.I was on the high street and there was a muslim youth praying on his lunch break in a fried chicken shop. His head was on the floor and arse in the air like a bitch. Even Alexander's men would not perform full proskynesis to him like that; he probably deserved it if anyone did. Semitism is a blight on our people, Christian or otherwise. Gods speed to you.
>>532811009Not the same anon, you limey, braun eating faggot. Go spread the other cheek for the slavemaster you worship as god.
>>532812007>Still no timestamp Pedo third worlder detected. Your opinions are irrelevant
>>532812244>Doubt.jpeg
>>532811245It’s almost like slavery is the most effective way to build a giant, soulless industrial “civilization.” what could go wrong? Oh wait.
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>>532812007>'pater' was a royal epithet for senators, gods, and royalty in Rome. Jesus said 'hate the father'. So much in the Bible cannot be understood without knowing the religion it attacked.>>532812394Yes, we know connor. Your kike trafficked children. Just answer me: why did he deny being a laistais (paedo)Also stop using American spelling, I think you are the third worlder Connor.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dY-roDpHWI
>>532812007Thank you for the advice, anon. Could you recommend any books for me to read? I have been amassing a small collection of books on European history and mythology/fairy tales. The nigger Theodosius ruined so much of our documented past, but I hope the puzzle pieces can be reassembled enough so that a new religion for White men can be established. Thank you, in advance.
>>532803986>>532805968>>532806454>>532806716>>532807826>>532812007>>532812789You will never be a Woman
>>532812789Abdul, my name is not Connor.But yours is still Abdul until proven otherwise
Nietzche was a cokehead schizo
>>532807922>>532807974>>532808981>>532809071>>532809169>>532810281>DENOUNCE BEING A FAG! NOW!!!!!!!!
>>532803986fun fact: prior to the crusades there's no trace of a place called nazareth.
the coprodermic christianimals are seething hard
>>532804204How do you feel about Spinoza and Feuerbach?
>>532812007>do a sacral fire at home like our ancestors. reignite the masculine.more on the fire for anons
>>532811731"Yahweh and his Asherah" is literally the inscription on the image I posted.
>>532813080The VPN faggots are coping hard
>>532813047>fun fact: prior to the crusades there's no trace of a place called nazarethFun Fact: The Trans suicide rate as of 2026 is 50%
>>532813164>everyone who is not part of my globohomo kalergian biomass religion is a VPN
>>532813161Meant for >>532811835 but honestly both of you kikes probably know this already.
>>532813080>the coprodermic christianimals are seething hardGet a better Hobby Faggot
Desert Cuck religions are a blight on the world for various reasons... From Jews to Muzzies and everything in between.
>>532805964When jews interacted with pagan societies they were either assimilated or exterminated. Christianity is the only system which permits the jews to exist as a permanent fixture through being accommodating enough to prevent eradication and ensure permanent economic niche but hostile enough to prevent assimilation.
>>532809597Saying he was God. Specifically not allowed in the religion Jesus chose to follow. Also Jews didn't kill him, Romans / Whites did. Pilot could have said no but wanted to keep his power so he did it anyway. Tale as old as time>Jew says Jump>white does backflips, spins and does tricks on his massive Jewish dick for money and powerSo after the Italian / white man murdered Jesus for breaking the Jewish law of a religion he chose to follow and tried to essential brute force usurp, he was boomed
>>532803986Ah, the ever present 1pbtid christcuck slide thread. If the Jew Bolshevik shill insist on you being a secular, there's a reason.
>>532810281Very cool figurines, but you should get one of the current pontifex maximus to complement your collection.
>>532813234try taking a shower and buying deodorant, Sambo
>>532813224We all know VPN abuse is abundant on 4chan. Weird how you all suddenly come in droves sucking each other off
>>532813080>>532813115
>>532813364>We all know VPN abuse is abundant on 4chanSambo is projecting hard, pretending surprise that a shit colored jew worship religion isn't popular on a NS-adjacent board
>>532813224>everyone who is not part of my globohomo kalergian biomass religion is a VPNWe know that the retards latest trend is hating Christianity. So all the Trannies, Poos, Karen Leftyz and Redditors are just drooling now kek. Such Fags. Totally organic Thread lads
>>532813280>try taking a shower and buying deodorant, SamboI'm not Indian you dumb bitch. Wtf kek!
>>532813423never read them, most of my philosophical reading is of the ancients
>>532813471>Sambo is projecting hard, pretending surprise that a shit colored jew worship religion isn't popular on a NS-adjacent boardWhats the point in this thread to prove you are the biggest Faggot here kek?
>>532813480So.... why are Christians trying to convert Indians to their religion?
>>532809071>>532809169>worships 3D printed Roman figurinesyou should seek medical help before it's too late, I'm being serious
>>532813544>never read them, most of my philosophical reading is of the ancientsReddit Threads and Twitter Screencaps are not Sources Retard.
>>532813544I do think there is a very underrated scientific line of thinking from Epicurus to modernity, which is kind of an interesting 'hidden parallel' to the historical mainstream of European Platonism.
>>532813593>So.... why are Christians trying to convert Indians to their religionBecause the are covered in Shit. Nec
>>532813247>>532813423>>532813593>>532813680You will never be black
>>532813161Illiterate mutt, I said outs the masoretic text
Sambo is having a big melty
>>532813471Are Jews white?
>>532813863This shit predates all your religions by hundreds of years. It is the foundation for those texts, dumbass.
>>532813885>Sambo is having a big meltyHow explain? Faggot? Are we having a melty that you a Faggot? Maybe kek?
>>532813962>How explain? Faggot? Are we having a melty that you a Faggot? Maybe kek?oof madone is this 2006 google translate or something?
>>532813863>>532813917You both are Jew really Retards
>>532813957Again, I'm asking something simple mutt, give me one time outside of the masoretic text,god was called yawah
>>532813917I don't use the term white, but no
>>532814025>oof madone is this 2006 google translate or something?No you are a Tranny kek
>>532814063No no no no no, you don't get to change your opinion kike mutt
>>532812802You need metaphysics, not just facts. Anything by Julius Evola, from major works to minor scattered essays is very helpful for disentangling the masculine/feminine strata at war in Graeco-Rome. He is a very principled author. Because Christianity/Semitism was not the first emergence, Greece had three strata of races/cultic types and Rome was similarly divided. Everything I am saying concerns the royal/elite patrician Aryan cult that saw burial of the dead as foreign to cremation practices.I have learned a lot, not just from him, but from authors he cites such as J.J. Bachofen who has a scholarly study on matriarchal and patriarchal cults called Mother Right Evola draws from heavily. Stefen Weinstock has a great study on the imperial cult called Divus Julius, and newer scholarship such as CF Conrad's analysis on the role of auspices in the Senate and Ittai Gradel's study on emperor worship literally say 'okay, academics did not take Roman religion seriously. Now we shall'. So the tide is turning. For centuries we saw pagan Rome and pagans generally through a Christianised academic lens where it could only be manipulative 'propaganda' or mental illness, no it turns out it was quite serious, and Christians stole much of their sacral language from Rome. it is a major key to undermining Christianity. beyond that I collect academic papers. But they won't give you more than just dry facts.He has an interesting reading on Buddhism as the highest Aryan ascesis. Read Emperor Julian's letters, Celsus, Tacitus, all of the classic myth. I have a copy of Apollodorus' Library and Hyginus' Fabulae. The former was literally how Romans learned the myths themselves without overwhelming density. Hyginus' Fabulae is one of a few sources with the Iphigenia sacrifice, which jews robbed for Isaac-Abraham and tacked on 'and jews are superior forever and ever and will rule every city' at the end. Ill post a bit about the bridal influences on Christianity and theft.
>>532814048>Again, I'm asking something simple mutt, give me one time outside of the masoretic text,god was called yawahWhy are Jews such fucking rats?
>>532814136Holy shit, you cannot answer a simple fucking question you fucking kike
>>532814132schlomo you are having a melty, I suggest you calm down by chewing on some palestinian foreskins
>>532814132>No no no no no, you don't get to change your opinion kike muttSays (You) Faggot Jew
>>532814135Before Christianity came to predominance, the Isis cult was prevalent in the area, which was a matriarchal cult a la Cleopatra. In Egypt after the 21st dynasty the priests revolted and Isis became more important than Osiris. Then it became a matriarchal society where women ran politics and men nursed infants at home. The female ruler justified the male ruler, who only derived power from her.The epithet for Isis was Panthea (lit. all-goddess, but actually means all-mother). In Graeco-Rome there was always conflict between solar and masculine patricians and mother-cult (Demeter, Isis, Astarte etc) and feminine plebeians. Rome famously conquered many matriarchal cultures and put them under true patriarchy, the patres or patricians, from Etruria, to Nubia to Egypt and Jerusalem and more. Christianity was the great revolt and revenge of this substratum.When Christianity came to predominance, it absorbed all of the Isis cult centres, literally replacing icons of Isis and her baby with Mary and her baby. You can google them, they are frequently placed side by side. It also fit Isis' prayers. They retrofitted panthea to judaic cosmology as 'panagia' or 'all-holy', as the 'highest created thing'.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PanagiaChristianity was the great revenge of this lower stratum.Augustus was 'Divus Filius', Romans used 'terrae filius', son of the earth to refer to those of indeterminate origin or caste (generis incertis), especially no father. Apollo famously instituted patriarchy in the Eumenides. Ill post the quote.
>>532803986yhwh is a praying mantis ayylmao LARPing as god, but so are your Greek and Nordic “gods”. All That Is, including the divine spark within you, is God. You are co-creator of reality.
>>532814179>Holy shit, you cannot answer a simple fucking question you fucking kikeWhy are you even in Israel Faggot?
>>532813480This
>>532814135>CF Conrad's analysis on the role of auspices in the Senate
>>532811666Cope, kike. Satan digits, btw.
>>532814231>yhwh is a praying mantis ayylmao LARPing as god, but so are your Greek and Nordic “gods”. All That Is, including the divine spark within you, is God. You are co-creator of reality.You pray to niggers and Trannies. Back to Discord faggots
>>532814135>Ittai Gradel's study on emperor worship literally say 'okay, academics did not take Roman religion seriously. Now we shall'.
>>532814272>Cope, kike. Satan digits, btw.Satan is thx biggest Trans symbol ever kek
>>532814199I'm sure you enjoy Italian foreskins kike muttoid>>532814237Cause fuck you kike
>>532814215>Apollo famously instituted patriarchy in the Eumenides. Ill post the quote.
>>532814348Why are you in Israel kek?
>>532814135>Hyginus' Fabulae is one of a few sources with the Iphigenia sacrifice, which jews robbed for Isaac-Abraham and tacked on 'and jews are superior forever and ever and will rule every city' at the end. Ill post a bit about the bridal influences on Christianity and theft.This is the original Greek myth, of far older calibre, repeated in differing versions and different sources, far older and historically attested, in an actual historical event (the Trojan War) with archeological evidence.Scholars generally agree that a girl named Iphigenia was about to be sacrificed to Diana, but then some animal (likely a deer, because it is Diana's animal but also attested as a bear and an old woman) ran into the midst of the army, and they took it as a sign and sacrificed the deer instead.Jews ripped this off, and inserted at the end 'then God chose Abraham's blood to rule all the cities he enters btw'. Which is totally a non-sequitur to the original Greek legend.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRfb0Fm2u9AThe entire basis of all Abrahamism is a false lie. A stolen myth with racial supremacy tacked on for no reason at all.This is why nationalism is jewish psychology. a white convert to Judaism chided me with 'you believe in nationalism' don't you? nationalism broke apart the empires. It is why they always try to convince you that 'we wuz jews' or jews wuz white.IT'S NOT EVEN REAL.EXODUS IS RIPPED FROM THE GITA.ISAAC IS RIPPED FROM IPHIGENIAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHYour religion is just blind idiocy and chutzpah. Taking poems literally. Ty for the win.
>>532814348Holy VPN tard
>>532814419Why can't you answer my question?
>>532814487הלוואי , הלוואי ולא הייתי גר פה
>>532814298You pray to the tribal god of the jews and the messiah of the jews, 2016 election tourist faggot.
>>532814452I've saw your hysterical posting before. Don't you usually post under a Palestine flag
>>532812802>>532814135Soter (saviour) was applied to Zeus, Hercules and Greek rulers. 'Saviour of the world' (Sōtēr tês oikoumenês) was applied to Julius Caesar and Pompey, the former whom had a statue with a giant orb demonstrating rule over the world. It was a militaristic title that acknowledged the role of warfare in maintaining order. Epithets such as Zeus Pater, Iovi Patri, Mars Pater, Ianus Pater, Liber Pater, Dis Pater, Tiberinus Pater and Zeus Soter, Hercules Soter etc. are attested. The Ptolemy dynasty also styled themselves as Soter (saviour).>from Divus Julius by Stefan Weinstock.
>>532814548Fuck your larp
>>532814662טוב
>>532814641>Dominus noster (Our Lord) is attested on coins minted by Diocletian and Maximian (co-Augustus). It all fed the language of the patriarchal household>sōtēr tēs oikoumenēs — saviour of the world, a title applied to hellenic kings and roman statesmen/emperors. Caesar+Pompey given this title.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soter>divi filli — son of (a) god. title of Augustus. On every Roman street sign.>princeps pacis—prince of peace, literal roman imperial title, rooted in conceptions of Martial (mars) peace and Augustan peace>king of kings, imperial title>pantocrator, title of Zeus and Hercules, applied to Hellenic Rulers, and to Roman Emperors in the Greek provinces.>Pontifex Maximus, title of Roman pagan priesthood, originally the role of the Roman king associated with rex sacrorum, king of the sacrifice, split into several offices, reconsolidated by Caesar and Augustus. Usurped by Chrigger pope. True Pontifex Maximus is the Caesar.>pater patriae: father is a title alluding to a sacral king that ONLY makes sense in a pagan religion, like sacrifices. Yet jews do a poor job of stealing. For jesus to say 'hate the father' to romans is high blasphemy to Roman pagans. Fathers were absolutely sacred.>Invictus, title of Julius Caesar, deo invicto>Adventus, epiphaneia>Theos, Theandros, god-man ascribed to Hercules invoked by Roman emperors/Hellenic Kings.on and on and on. Virgil's Fourth Eclogue was stolen by Chriggers for Yeshua, when it was for Augustus.>Helios Kosmokrator, Alexander the Great as the divinised Sun, iconography common of kings well into the mediaeval period invoked by Louis XIV.PAGAN Patriarchal and Solar offices stolen by Christianity for their jewInfiltration + subversion.
>>532814615Hurts, doesn't it?
>>532803986Oh wow you must be the SMARTEST person who ever lived. I bet you LOVE yourself.
>>532814691Good job fooling the rest of the newfags but you can't fool me.Like you haven't literally just translated on Google>>532814765Thanks for outting yourself and proving me right.So it's true that there's only a small userbase here, and it's full of you chronically online Muslim shills
>>532814925Okay then, how do I prove it?
>>532803986>Have you even read my book?
>>532814945Hand and timestamp of today's date and time next to your holy book
The divine is absolutely incorporeal, and impassible. catholics, orthodox, and mainline protestants all believe this.>It cannot suffer>It cannot be shamed>It cannot be arrested, beaten, mocked, crucified>It cannot dieA God who suffers is a God who can be affected, which means a God who is not fully self-sufficient, which means not truly supreme.christcucks say:>yeshua was truly divineotherwise you have the Arianism heresy that atonement has no infinite weight>yeshua truly suffered otherwise you have the Docetism heresy that yeshua only appeared to have a body and only appeared to suffer.>These are not two separate beingsotherwise you have the Nestorian heresy of two personsChalcedon's argument fails to explain how two natures, one person, without confusion, without change, without division, without separation works. How can human suffering affect the divine? It cannotthe followers of the sect of saul and rabbi yeshua have never answered my above query.
>>532815026Bet, found pslams only
>>532814925>>532815026You have been screeching and chimping out while shilling this entire thread. If anyone needs his whiteness and legitimacy questioned it's you. What is your religion? Christianity?
>>532815435Your hand anon must be included
>>532815559God I just wanna know if people can verify information kek
>>532814135Thank you, anon. I like evola and will look into all of your well-explained suggestions. I truly appreciate it.
>>532815568I'll just add you post number
>>532805964>What, do you think regular expulsions, pogroms and restrictions on what jews can do in christian kingdoms is actually some jewish ploy?Are you actually as a Christian bragging about the history of pogroming kikes? That's not very Christian I'll have you know. Try loving thy enemy maybe.
>>532815752No. It's not legitimate without your hand>The stories and information posted here are artistic works of fiction and falsehood. Only a fool would take anything posted here as fact
>>532815765Love your enemies, not the enemies of god
Demonic thread. You’re going to regret blapsheming this one day, hopefully for you before it’s too late.You’re also desperate for attention, get a real hobby.
>>532815814Where in the Bible does it say who the enemies of God are? I do recall something about "Judge not, that ye be not judged," though. So simmer down Juden. We're just going to love you unconditionally and there is nothing you can do about it.
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>>532807826>do you think Ammon Hillman is a MuslimNo, but he is a complete and total liar. Nobody who repeats his ideas has even done a cursory check on them. It's all complete BS, totally invented lies.
>>532815735The light is awake within you, that is all you truly need. Gods be with you and may you find your way and some day bring back treasures of your own for us. Was a pleasure. Well wishes to any other fellow travellers as well.
>>532809597Telling them to worship the New Covenant instead of the old one. Basically trying to turn the Jews into cuckolds like modern Christians
>>532813251>Also Jews didn't kill him, Romans / Whites didShalom. The only """"""""people"""""""" I've ever heard use that argument are Jews.
>>532816883Jesus spent most of the time trying to get the Jews to follow their own religion. To follow the actual teachings of Moses instead of the workarounds and excuses of the rabbis. They didn't like that.
Nietzsche was an absolute brainlet compared to the titans of his era in Germany. Even Burckhardt absolutely mogs hos retarded takes on the Greeks. No wonder he went insane from shame
>>532813124You have intrigued me, OP.Let me ask you something: my DNA is what Madison Grant would describe as, "Nordic." To my knowledge I have no Roman ancestors at all though I like like every White man I think Rome is peak.So here's my next question to you: if you advocate Aryans return to their, "ancestral religion," why should I worship the Roman gods? These are foreign gods of an empire that oppressed and conquered my people. If the logic is one should not be Christian because it is a foreign god that was hostile to our very way of life, why then if I am reaching into the past for spiritual enlightenment should I observe the Roman gods?
>>532817023Yes but he also did try to reform the Law of Moses. On many occasions he said "law of Moses says X, but I say Y". >exampleLaw of Moses says you may divorce your wife, but Jew King says you can't, except in case of infidelity. That is a direct amendment to the Law of Moses. Jesus was, in the first place, a reformer of Judaism.
>>532817240Although Nietzsche was a rambling madman, he says 0 incorrect things in The Antichrist
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>>532814765Another question for you: if Christianity so succesfully castrated the Aryan Race, how did we so clearly and obviously keep advancing when we were still Christian overwhelmingly? How did civilizations like PicRel happen if Christianity is the source of our present woes? Moreover, how would you interpret the fact that the White race has declined in conjunction with the decline of Christianity?
>>532817616The age of enlightenment was a direct result of pagan texts returning to Europe after being stored in the east. The cultural revolution in the west happened in the 60s when the west was still at least 90% christian. Try again sweaty
>>532805964Wrong, the medieval pogroms and expulsion were political theater the monarchs used to keep the people from rebelling. The jews were always eventually let back in. That's why the jews were expelled so many times, they kept coming back. It was a pressure release valve to prevent popular uprising like modern election cycles are today.
>>532817616>How did civilizations like PicRel happen if Christianity is the source of our present woes? Moreover, how would you interpret the fact that the White race has declined in conjunction with the decline of Christianity?Nietzsche explains this in Thus Spoke Zarathustra, in the Prologue. Read the passages about "the last man" (modern man) and you might understand. Modern man is the exact opposite of hyperboreansLo! I show you the Last Man."What is love? What is creation? What is longing? What is a star?" -- so asks the Last Man, and blinks.The earth has become small, and on it hops the Last Man, who makes everything small. His species is ineradicable as the flea; the Last Man lives longest."We have discovered happiness" -- say the Last Men, and they blink.They have left the regions where it is hard to live; for they need warmth. One still loves one's neighbor and rubs against him; for one needs warmth.
>>532817254I am very glad you brought this up, because it was one aspect that I feel I missed from my posts. Thank you for the question.It reveals a few layers of prejudices that are endemic to moderns and widespread here. It is a post-Enlightenment opinion that projects a lot into history that was not there, and it also has to do with anti-Catholic sentiment. It is more to do with anti-Tradition, when Rome, in its imperial pagan form or Catholic form represented a primordial Nordic Tradition.Rome imposed a strong institutional impression into Europe that persisted after the collapse, with many claiming to be the new Rome or descent from Rome. All of the kings, whether via the Frankish tables or through the Brutus myth, considered themselves descendants of Aeneas. Rome formed all of the institutions and offices, with pagan logic, that Christianity took credit for and abused for soviet-tier tyranny.The problem with Celtic-Germanic paganism? Its glory is too distant and its writings too sparse. Nothing is left that could actually hold a polity together. But Rome created many many empires and revivals after. Roman Tradition is the intact Aryan custom, it is ours, and could be reinstated tomorrow if we willed it.Rome didnt only inherit their own customs, when it elevated the pater to the global stage, it incorporated universal offices from the world. Every Roman emperor was a pharaoh. It died with Christianity and Islam. Pharaoh was a 5-and-a-half thousand year office. No one has claimed pharaoh since 313, 1,713 years ago... if it was still around it would be seven thousand years old.The Romance languages such as French, Spanish, Porteugeuse, Sardinian, Romanian and more, are direct children of Rome. in Britain we spoke Celtic Latin. Britannia is literally a Roman goddess, we have had kings from the HRE that initiated the Augustan/Regency period for centuries. Romanice loqui: to speak like a Roman.
>>532817254>>532819525prior to the enlightenment, it was commonly believed that Britons were from Trojans. Britons were Romanised for centuries prior to imperial integration via trade alone, wearing Roman attire, eating Roman food, marrying Roman women. It is part of our identity.the mediaeval period was all a Roman revival, from the Carolingian Renaissance to the Holy ROMAN Empire and Napoleon as its last claimant, the 'new augustus', depicting himslf as anti-Christ next to Nero while stepping on the pope. Yet it was the old kings of france that founded the champ de mars based on the one in italy. European tradition is monarchy and aristocracy. Aeneas was the bedrock and every king claimed descent, including the Stuarts, in a poem where he depicts his own apotheosis (after Christian puritans killed his dad and banned theatres. he founded the King's and Duke's company and flooded it with Roman gods). Later, our kings were princes of the HRE (derided, I wonder why?)Above all, masonry and jewry hates Roman identity, so want to suppress it.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustan_literatureChildren had to study a dozen greek and roman classics in Britain until the 1950s. I will read about British figures and randomly run into people named 'Octavia' or 'Augustus'. A very popular genttleman's name. its in all our plays and arts.Roman gods were broadly syncretised with Celt or Germanic gods, their cult centres are still all over. These gods are etymologically and conceptual relatives, various charts have been made. Romans treated it that way, as if meeting their cousins.To identify 'Roman' with Italians alone, and not all Europeans, is a mistake of the modern era and it shows ignorance of history and the subsequent instantiations.
>>532819606Roman stopped being about blood a very long time ago and became the early term for 'European' generally. Byzantium still called itself 'Roman' for a millennia. Jews refer to all Europeans as 'Rome', including Americans. They want to genocide you with bioweapons, as a Roman, whether you are from Scandinavia or Italy.Even the USA, in breaking away from the European (Roman) Tradition, had to speak in the idiom of Senate and Executive. Senex is Latin for old man. Yet Americans fill it with men of no birth or even women.Evola calls Romans 'Nordic-Aryan' and he draws on scholarship to demonstrate that the elite of Rome descend from a northern stock. that being said, he is not a race reductionist nordicist purist and accepts a spectrum of Aryan types.Better articles like:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_founded_by_the_Romanshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Roman_towns_and_cities_in_GermanyThe oldest cities in Europe.>picrel, european offices derived from roman ones. Germanic HRE. PatriciusNationalism is promoted to obfuscate the imperial ideal.But Hitler wanted to be the 'third reich', with Roman triumphs and eagles, no?
>>532819696A half English half Dutch girl recently told me about how 'Rome is not popular here' I explained to her (she lived between Utrecht and Britain) how Utrecht, like London, is a Roman settlement, and that region were strong supporters and allies of Rome. Then I went on to ennumerate the oldest cities in the netherlands and germany were Roman and some had the name of the emperor in them.She had no idea, and just knew modern anti-traditional resentment. I wonder why no one educated her? It's too empowering.To learn Latin is already to pass beneath the standards of imperium; one does not decline verbs in abstraction, one reads Caesar crossing the Rubicon, Virgil singing of destiny, Livy recounting conquest, pietas and fides (he even debates, 'What if Alexander and Invincible Rome fought?' It made my face flush.') and thus grammar itself becomes initiation into Tradition, order, and the memory of Victory.Hebrew was a dead language until the foundation of Israel in 1948. Everyone laughs at you for speaking Latin and talking about Romans, while seeing Hebrew with reverence, but it has a far richer tradition of academic and medical texts prior to the 1800s. You were not considered educated in Britain if you did not speak Latin, not that long ago. And the reason it was put on the back burner is clear. It was too empowering.You do not have to be coerced to join an industrial and global superpower. People will come clamouring at your door.Rather, forces that want to suppress the higher ideal, namely the ones that destroyed Rome before, want to promote a nationalist, anti-traditional ethic.The Germanics upheld the Roman ideal better than Italians. Aristocracy are derived from Latin terms for offices. They warred against the Church and wanted their emperor to be considered a god, this was the Guelph-Ghibelline conflict. The Hohenzollern explicitly identified as 'of the race of the god Augustus'.
>>532819810The proposed synthesis therefore risks becoming an absorption: Tradition reduced to symbol, aesthetic, or private sentiment within a fundamentally profane order.This does not entail naïve archaism, nor a romantic reconstruction of vanished institutions. The question concerns orientation. A man may live amidst modern forms, use modern instruments, even speak the idiom of the age, while inwardly ordered by a supra-temporal principle; yet such a stance remains essentially critical, discriminating, sovereign. It does not seek reconciliation; it implies distance and inner independence.It was William Blake that replaced the Brutus myth with his 'we wuz kikes' British identity poem, claiming Jesus walked in Britain, a precursor to the Israel schizophrenia we see in the new world. Puritans tried to found the 'new israel' in the USA. they were total judaisers and called the king pharaoh or pope.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/And_did_those_feet_in_ancient_timeThe lines about Caesar and Cicero saying Britons are the most ignorant people they have enslaved? Completely fabricated by American black slave abolitionist William Wells Brown. It does not exist in the records anywhere, it comes from his slave revolt communistic book and imposes a slave-mentality onto Britons. I see it quoted everywhere though it is fake.No, to be anti-Roman is to be anti all European ethnicities, not anti-Italian. That is the 'empire' of Europe that was attempted to be revived, but was broken apart by nationalism. It is our culture. It was suppressed in the French Revolution. Do not be shy or meek, be a proud Roman, and keep your own celtic/germanic identity too, you did not have to abandon it to follow Roman gods. That was Christians that did that.Anti-Roman rhetoric is carefully calculated by the architects of Novus Ordo Seclorum. Study your own pre-modern history.
>>532819696Here is a small sample of Romano-European institutions from the Augsburg book of nobles, using Roman instituttions and social hierarchy well into the middle ages, which represent a true renaissance.You can see full scans book from the book on the British museum page here:https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG21404 I have seen Americans and Christians say the same thing
>>532820032>>532817616What you are fed is a narrative that makes history too neat. We are occupied; ZOG. Your heroes and the past is rewritten to serve the narrative, e.g. William Blake displacing the Brutus myth that shows the English king is a descendant of Venus like Caesar.In reality, it was institutional entryism. A book called 'the Making of Christian aristocracy' by Michele R. Salzman goes to show how Christianity said whatever it needed to, to convert Roman aristocracy and gain power. Like marxists today.There were numerous revolts against Christianism, from the Saxons and Massacre at Verdun to the Vikings.This earned a lot of ire against Romanism itself, as far as it was the Church. But that was the Soviet occupation.There is a reason that the Bosheviks modelled themselves on the apostles and quoted the bible as they raided the Romanov Winter Palace.Quite often, what you see as 'european' is actually serving jewish hegemony via ideological capture.As I say here: it is about orientation:>>532819873Rome is our last touch-point to the solar Aryan tradition in full. It is like a JRPG in its purity, another time.The imperial ideal warred against Christianity itself, from the Stuarts to the Ghibellines and beyond. It tried to free itself.What is traditional in Christianity is not semitic. What is not semitic is a global Aryan Tradition with far more transcendence and masculinity. Christianity could not generate these offices. What is evil cannot create, only steal and invert:>>532814692Jesus is a rip off of the roman emperor, with schizo sola scriptura readdings.Instead, the Reformation unleashed primitive Christianity.I argue one side remains to be 'liberated'. That is, pure Romanism.tradition may return in a new form, but it cannot be generated whole cloth and it cannot be predicted. This is what we have and it is our custom.
>>532814452>This is the original Greek myth, of far older calibre, repeated in differing versions and different sources, far older and historically attested, in an actual historical event (the Trojan War) with archeological evidence.BTW, for anons who want a full book of this sort of stuff, picrel. It covers Iphigenia and more.
>>532820556You fail to understand that you cannot unopen Pandora's Box. Telling Europe to larp as Romans will fail because people generally want the new. You must create a new movement to have any success. You may draw ideas from Rome but you must reinvent them into something overwhelming new, e.g. NSDAP. To dismiss Germanic paganism as having too few writings is wrong, having less allows for easier invention of the new.
>>532819606>Napoleon as anti-Christ next to Nero and Caligula while stepping on the pope.
>>532820875Tell that to our kings, HRE, and Napoleon, and the champ de mars. Were the Germanics 'larping as Romans'? I have no interest in abandoning the past. Traditionalists see history as cylical, not progressive, like you. You are a progressive.You are simply a nationalist and anti-Traditionalist. Traditionalism holds the higher principles, and spiritual orientation and our Aryan heritage..I do not need to convince anyone. Why was Hitlr doing Roman triumphs with statues of Victory and Roman eagles again? So you could become a schizo and deny your heritage?What is third reich referring to again?All you will create is a mudhut, with your 'neo' innovations.America already broke from Europe, Americans always act this way. Even Germans do not do this.You are here to put a thorn in any higher ideal. You are made to break apart, not unite. Your fate is as an innawoods tribesman.You do not even care about Germans, new worlder. For you, it is a drinking game.'i am 1/4th nordic, 1/4th irish, 1/4 native '.The Trojan heroes did not even divinise their blood, it was pure action alone. I care about heritage and principles, you do not. All you do is filter yourself.
>>532807922> Pre-Christian Norse Society (~pre-8th c – 10th c)(Marriage & Social Cohesion)▪ Marriage as a gift (gift / morgengave): daughter of the tribe exchanged to forge alliances.▪ Empowered wife: Had property rights, divorce rights, and household authority (▪keys around her neck▪).▪ Sexual norms: Structured but socially regulated; honor ensured fidelity and respect.(Enforcement Mechanisms)▪ nīð / nīðingr: Severe breaches of honor, oaths, or social contracts = social death/outlawry.▪ Honor-based law: Reputation and communal enforcement regulated human behavior.(Effect on Human raw Intensity around social/communal engagement)▪ Life-affirming, raw energy safely channeled through communal structures: combat, ritual, marriage, and household management.> Viking Activity in England & Christian Moral Panic (~10th – 11th c)(Christian Chroniclers’ Narrative)▪ John of Wallingford and others describe Vikings as physically alluring:“The Danes made themselves too acceptable to English women by their elegant manners and their care of their person.They combed their hair daily, according to the custom of their country, and took a bath every Saturday,and even changed their clothes frequently, and improved the beauty of their bodies with many such trifles,by which means they undermined the chastity of wives.”▪ How to dominate married christian women and cucking their husbands ▫ Daily grooming, bathing, elegant manners ▫ Physical appeal used rhetorically as a moral threat ▫ Framed as undermining the chastity of English wives
>>532821502(Effect on Human raw Intensity around Social Perception)▪ Christian chroniclers turned physical attractiveness and vitality into a source of moral panic.▪ Viking vitality represents raw human intensity, uncalcified and socially integrated in their own culture.▪ In contrast, English women are framed as vulnerable to foreign disruption, signaling a shift toward moral and social repression under Christian norms.> Christianization of Scandinavia (~11th – 13th c)(Doctrinal Overlay)▪ Marriage reframed as a sacrament; sexuality as sin or temptation.▪ Ritual and honor systems replaced by fear-based moral obedience.▪ Folklore encodes fear: mylings and other spirits as reminders of broken natural order.(Effect on Human raw Intensity)▪ Natural energy and sexuality calcified; behavior governed by internalized guilt rather than communal law.> Medieval Victorian Era (~14th – 19th c)(Marriage & Sexual Repression)▪ Wives fearful of wedding night; ignorant of bodies.▪ Household authority symbolized by keys, but personal freedom restricted.▪ Church courts enforce morality; honor replaced by doctrinal rules.(Effect on Human Intensity)▪ Repression of desire and autonomy anxiety and shame.▪ Energy that was once communal and empowering is now internalized and stifled.
>>532821542> Modern Era (~20th – 21st c)(Secularization and Cultural Legacy)▪ Freedom and autonomy exist; divorce and cohabitation normalized.▪ Cultural memory of fear, shame, and moralized restriction persists subtly.▪ Declining marriage rates reflect loss of ritualized social scaffolding.> Marriage is omething deeper than society.How humans grow through the sacred balance of masculine and feminine energy, and what happens when that balance is broken.In pre-Christian Norse society, marriage was more than love: it was a gift between tribes, a way to keep communities strong.Wives had authority over households, and men’s strength, bravery, and desire were celebrated.This created a crucible where human energy could grow safely: men could be powerful, women could be creative and life-giving.But when Christianity spread to Scandinavia and England, things changed. Chroniclers like John of Wallingford wrote:> “The Danes made themselves too acceptable to English women…by grooming, bathing, and elegant manners…”The vitality of Vikings: their bodies, their manners, their energy; was framed as dangerous.Women’s power was moralized, and men were constrained;Over time, natural desire, creativity, and the sacred human energy were seen as sinful... And fear replaced ritual, honor, and growth.
>>532821706By the Victorian era, women often feared for their own bodies, and men’s raw intensity was suppressed.Even today, most of that energy is fragmented and misdirected, leaving human potential unrealized.Here is the core of it: I like to imagine it as a hidden West Wing garden:- The flower is the sacred feminine: creative, transformative, life-giving.- The beasts are men’s raw energy: strong, wild, and primal.- When the flower is honored and aligned, the beasts can act fully: they can protect, create, and transform.- But when the flower is violated or abandoned, it can destroy the man’s vitality, nullifying his claws, his strength, and his capacity to live fully.> In other words, the sacred feminine is not optional.It enables and protects masculine intensity; When it is ignored, corrupted, or disrespected, the entire crucible of growth collapses.Men cannot reach their potential, and the energy of life itself becomes calcified.The lesson is clear: growth, transformation, and human potential require both the flower and the beast in balance.The sacred feminine must be honored, and the masculine must remain raw and capable.Only then can life thrive fully.Christianity dulls everything, at thought level, the morals, at romance, at manliness, at the most primal parts of the feminine.
>>532804204How many people still really take Christianity seriously today?I think for most people it’s more of a meme and larp than anything real. I just don’t see it as still being that relevant anymore. I mean there are still some Christians walking around and it certainly left a mark on white western civilization but I think most people would agree that we will now live in a post-Christian secular world.
>>532821453>Tell that to our kings, HRE, and Napoleon, and the champ de mars. Were the Germanics 'larping as Romans'?They all reinvented their own version of Rome.>Traditionalists see history as cylical, not progressive, like you. You are a progressive.No, I support tradition and history is generally cyclical, but it never quite the same either. To say things are entirely unchanged is wrong. Plato's idea of cyclicism did not mean everything repeated exactly, only that it did in broad strokes. Rhythmic progress towards the One is something Roman neoplatonics believed; why are you ignorant of that? Or do you deny it?>Why was Hitlr doing Roman triumphs with statues of Victory and Roman eagles again? So you could become a schizo and deny your heritage?He was reinventing Rome. Did he call himself Caesar? No. Did he form the same senate and government structure as Rome? No. Did he worship the gods by their Roman names? No. >What is third reich referring to again?Rome, but you fail to see what I've said above. It claimed to be the third Rome, but it was not a merely a copy; the spirit and ideas were adapted to modern Germany.>All you will create is a mudhut, with your 'neo' innovations.Clearly that's untrue as the US has discovered and created a huge amount of scientific advances. You wouldn't be posting on forums without American engineering. >You do not even care about Germans, new worlder. For you, it is a drinking game.>'i am 1/4th nordic, 1/4th irish, 1/4 native '.You think all Americans are alike which is flatly untrue for any country of the size of America. I never gave any indication of thinking that way nor do I. You are too prone to thinking Rome was perfect and we must retvrn. Rome had many problems of it's own hence it's fall.
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>>532822362the resurgence in zoomer christians is because they have nothing else in terms of hope or the future
Jesus and his simple teachings from God are exclusive to whatever the remnants are left among the jews, and whatever abominations christians are.Jews as you know them, are a forsaken people who rejected Jesus, and God.Christians are false worshipers who twist the words of Jesus and are further corrupted by the very same aforementioned jews who firmly sold out to the devil.Jesus and his message still hold true. That's the current sitrep on Earth.
>>532822362>>532822840It's just identity politics, just like most of the political scene, we live in a post-belief world
>>532822878the devil is was "newage slop" in the medieval europe.the real demons were us, anything foreign or inverse of abrahamic teaching (potential threat to abrahamic influence)transmutes into "Bad"historically, Its only christians who sees "demons" as something inherently "dark".What it otherwise means is beings of ultimatum, a spiritual jihad of sorts to explain it in a modern fashion.~ something that only works once and if it succeeds, you pay tribute or things might come to haunt you."Equal exchange"
>>532822553I have already said in my previous post to which you replied that traditiion may come in new forms, but the principles are what matter. You are projecting and dumbing me down into what you fear: literalism. I care about principles and orientation. Men create and shape their destiny, against the currents.I remind you, the title 'Kaiser' was not in use until a Germanic emperor revived it specifically against the Church to imply he is the 'holy' in Holy Roman Empire. I.e. that he united sacral and temporal authority.Most of the instantiations were compromised, and where they were not, they struggled against the church.I am not a Roman exclusivist, I recognise the same tradition as widespread across the indo-european sphere. I even cited the pharaoh. but it is ours.1. should we give up that heritage or claim it? i do not want to give it up. 2. it is the last uncompromising instantiation.i do not think Rome was perfect, I enumerated the conflicts and strata that led to Christianity gaining a foothold. plebeian and matriarchal cults existed to the chagrin of the patricians. But we are getting you to admit it at all, nevermind criticisms.So what does innovation mean? Theosophy, Black Sun Hitler occultism and those spheres. Not a polity. Not anything rooted in the history of Europe. Once again, I am a traditionalist. Though there were revivals, the full Roman ideal has yet to be realised. I mean this from a spiritual standpoint, not an outer form standpoint. So I do not think you should be criticising it when you have not even grasped it.Do not pretend to be one of us and then attempt to inject innovations when you dont really know what it is that we want. It is another deviation from the main principle, and so you help along the forces of disintegration. I would much rather be a Roman purist than to innovate early. A guitar player must learn the basics before he can break out . You want to improvise and you have not even grasped the basic chords.
>>532823703>>532822553another thing I should add.I think the Roman Tradition is Christianity's weakness, and it may be the only thing to seriously wound it and wake up people.If you think you can make something better than Rome, you must be Caesar and Augustus combined. You must be the new Napoleon we have been waiting for. Be my guest. Me? I am not that big.It is ready-made and well known.It is also attacked and undermined by liberals.
>>532824431good point desu, this explains why christians try to frame Hitler as a christian and trying their hardest to make it seem like he wasnt pagan.because it worked and it sucked for christianity.
>>532823703>I recognise the same tradition as widespread across the indo-european sphere.Roman religion and philosophy fed Western Occultism.Even Wicca was inspired by pre-Roman Etruscan rites still active in Tuscany. And they were conquered by Rome for being too feminist (their men took names from the mother, not father).A lot of stuff that is not strict 'classics' traces back, it never really went away. It's like an alternate timeline. so let's not neglect it before we know it fully. One can spend a lifetime learning, just as they studied Egypt, which strongly influenced the classical orders, philosophy, and statuary art.
>>532824872Yes. But not just Hitler. a lot of rulers who opposed the church before him.They were rewritten or written out. It's as I said: more than WW2 was stolen. really, this seems to be the jew's ultimate fear, that his little bear trap will be taken off.
>>532825062This is also why they mislead with forms of paganism that dont allow anything serious.they do not want the right wing to shift into 'return of order' mode.That is how I reacted to that anon telling me to innovate. It's more disintegration and lack of firm, easy, universal principles.>copy+paste roman emperor>kikes big madinstead of 1000 pages of freemason sorcery in a dank dungeon witth your schizo friends.they call Nero the beast? I am Nero now.
>>532819525>>532819606>>532820556Thanks for the information, all very enlightening. I'm at a point where I've considered reorientation on many things; I was one of the original Deus Vult-posters in the early days. I am now at a point where I am very disillusioned generally with Christianity and it's effects, although I can't say I dislike it as much as you.Either way, all very good stuff. I've received most of your points and don't have a rebuttal. It's nice to see another fellow genuine Effort-Poster.
>>532809169>anon has an orb for ponderingIm jealous
Jesus, the apostles, Paul were all sodomites
>>532823703>>532824431All the great guitarists were entirely self taught and their style came from that; they never played properly or learned the basic cords. Hendrix, Clapton, B.B. King, Prince, and Van Halen all just played and developed their own methods. Your analogy is a failure. Everything can be intuited on it's own, you don't need the crutch of the past; however helpful it may be, it is not required. >Roman Tradition is Christianity's weaknessRoman tradition fell to christianity. The defeater of christianity has yet to be found. Islam and modern agnostic atheism seem to have some ability to substitute it, but are unable to defeat it.My argument was and is not against the traditional ideals of the west, merely that you put to much thought into Rome specifically and dismiss Germanic ideas to easily. You also put to much faith in the hylic's ability to return to past ideas. That isn't and wasn't to say the past ideas are all wrong, just that you will have the damndest time trying to convert hylics to them. (I am not a gnostic but the framework of pneumatic, psychic, and hylic is to convenient to not use).How you are going to convince midwit hylics (whose support is needed for any sizable movement) to retvrn? I'm ready to be convinced of how you will achieve this.
>>532825224Could someone smart give me the jist of what Evola was saying there?t. too dumb
>>532814301I’ve had a chance to read some of your posts, anon. I find this one interesting. I was raised Catholic and have always seen the concept of a spiritual world and a natural world as two separate, polar entities. How did the Romans see god-vs-man? I’m not sure if I understand this. (Also, I own a couple evola books, which I have not read yet, but will start tonight. This is the best thread I’ve read in months, btw)
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>>532812007Enjoy hell
>>532825348Ah shitMy vril is out of balance, hes using his orb!
>>532811245>the West was at its peak under Christianityhardly
>>532825240We have all been lied to, friend. There is no shame. I don't have any resentment for someone like you and would be happy working with someone like you arm in arm. But what you will get is a heightening of every principle you are already familiar with. Yes some things, keeping you back, will be dispensed with, but that is the warrior's path. To stand forth, man with man or man against man, with no exit, in your strength or in your weakness, and to press forth. That is the day you become who you truly are, without compromise. That is when you can say you are a man. Gods speed.
>>532811245>the West was at its peak under Christianityfrom what year? you forgot to elaborate, context??lol, american five year old adults
>>532825638Study the imperial cult. It is well known the Catholic Church fused Judaism with the imperial cult. in Rome and in traditional Aryan societies writ large, the ruler was a divine, 'realised' being. This is what re-Christianisation after the collapse of the imperial centre was about. Semitic religion bears many traits of the feminine cults that proceed by natural law and the elevation of the feminine as supreme divinity. Hence the sinfulness, and 'humanness' and servility before the divine.Catholic Church broke this concept with the Dictatus Papae of Pope Gregory VII's register under the year 1075. And kings did rebel. To dismiss this now makes you a 'Caesaropapist'. Dante was the one who said that Caesar was a mere king with only temporal authority, given by god, as he burns in hell next to his daughter, Julia, who died in childbirth. When Rome knew him not only as a god, with divine honours while he lived and a pediment on his house like the temple of a god (sort of like buckingham palace or the white house...?) but as the true Pontifex Maximus. Likewise, Augustus was accorded 'numen'; an altar dedicated to his numen was established by Tiberius, close to the end, but while he still lived. This is typically an attribute only accorded to gods, i.e. Venus, Jupiter, Apollo etc. He was the Son of Apollo. Very early on, Romans did not depict gods as statues or 'deus', but invoked them as powers, as numen, symbolised by cultic objects that could draw this. Statues eventually were holders of numen, and the goal of the Christian talmudic precept to behead or cut the nose was to inactivate this 'numen'.it is very similar tto the Indian idea of 'prana'. Recently, they built a temple to an old king deity over the ruins of a mosque, and the prime minister performee a 'prana pratstha'. which is what a Roman would have done to imbue a statue of a god with vital and active powers.
>>532826263christcucks think theyre mocking people with demons and hel~words that theyve warped and only seem bad in their own interpretations
>>532812394>pedo third worlderYou're projecting.
>>532825802Augustus was an initiate at Eleusis, he even emptied the senate of non-initiates when a case involving its secrets arose, where the kykeon, a psychedelic drug was given to initiates. Old religions proceeded by initiation. Emperors after him such as Hadrian and Antoninus Pius would also become initiated. They did not receive the royal title 'basileus' or 'rex' until initiation, even if they held government power. I always think of Augustus' deathbed lines: Ἐπεὶ δὲ πάνυ καλῶς πέπαισται, δότε κρότον. Καὶ πάντες ἡμᾶς μετὰ χαρᾶς προπέμψατε.A close rendering:‘If I have played my part well in life, clap and send me off with your applause.’This strongly invokes the Greek tragedy, which itself was a metaphor for their 'awakening doctrine' (the world is a stage, Shakesepeare, continues his ancient wisdom). It strongly accords with the notions of Neoplatonism, Advaita Vedanta and Buddhism, of there being a primal essence to mentation that is our primal essence.It seems strongly like awakening doctrine to me.Likewise, human is always presented as opposite to 'august'. Ovid, Cassius Dio, and Livy contrast them as opposites. Plutarch quotes a Greek remarking the Senators have 'humano augusiorem maiestas' (majesty more august than human) and 'look most like the gods.Cassius Dio in Greek:Αὔγουστος ὡς καὶ πλεῖόν τι ἢ κατὰ ἀνθρώπους ὢν ἐπεκλήθη· πάντα γὰρ τὰ ἐντιμότατα καὶ τὰ ἱερώτατα αὔγουστα προσαγορεύεται.In English:He was given the title Augustus, signifying that he was more than human; for all the most precious and sacred things are called augusta.There is a moment in Suetonius where Augustus stills an assassin by his mere presence. This is highly Aryan metaphysics. It is very similar to the 'silent force' of the Indians known as Darshan 'holy sight'.
>>532828051>>532825802>primal essence to mentation that is our primal essence.*that is our true nature.This gets a bit deeper with Buddhism, where they say even this nature cannot be known, so therefore any mental concept of it whatsoever is 'not it'. But that's something you don't need to worry about until you are very advanced.here is a piece on this event. It is a bit rough and needs a bit of editing and a quote or two, but it's enough to convey the idea.Thanks everyone. Glad you are getting something from it. My work is being done in that case.
>>532815000>gets turned in by his own denomination>gets excommunicated>to this day lutherians denounce him and are some of the most diehard globalhomo/jew supporters next to evangelicals
>>532827886>>532828051I just started down a rabbit hole about the concept of numen. Idk if this is what you were talking about divinity being part of us and not polar to us, but I feel “right” when thinking about this spirit being with us and part of us, not above us. I started looking at a daily practice to honor and listen to this guiding force in my own life. Very interesting stuff, anon.
>>532827886Am I getting this right-Romans worshipped men (not divine, just royals) and cultic objects they claimed had power.The Catholic church said no to that (based), you have to worship a real divine being (God).>which is what a Roman would have done to imbue a statue of a god with vital and active powersSo the Romans were pretty much spiritually Indian?
>>532828494I’ve always felt like there is a guiding force that spoke to me, but desire and control make the message inaudible. Sounds a bit crazy, but it has always worked for me when im able to “let go of the steering wheel” a bit and just follow this guidance.
>>532828225No reply to >>532825583?I guess your arguments are too weak to withstand any criticism.
>>532813251>Saying he was God.He never said he was God, and he never broke the Torah. That's why they couldn't just kill him themselves, they needed Rome, and to do that they lied and said he tried to usurp Rome's authority.
>>532828712>trying to equate Rome with indiaget in the fucking oven moishe
>>532825583I did not mean to insult Germanic cult, so I am sorry if it offended you. I was simply being autistically pragmatic. I do not want to offend my Germanic friends, but trying to deal with the hard problem of what can be done now. It is known that Celtic and Germanic metaphysics had holes that were filled in by 'patchworks'. Germanics invigorated the Roman ideal better than italians because they were a young race and more vigorous, and that is no mean feat for a city whose name is the Doric word for 'strength'. So you have proven yourselves capable. I just do not want you to go down an unfruitful path. We are being attacked from all angles, and so we should not become enemies with D&C but support one another. There is no one-type that must be imposed. Rome never forbade your gods and supported them with temples. So you are always welcome. One man cannot do everything, so I will do what I do best and you do what you do best. I only ask you not to undermine the ideal that Hitler himself recognised by naming himself after the Reich. I want to support my German friends. Please do not buy into the Germania vs Rome or Britain vs Rome rhetoric. It is manipulation by our enemies while we suffer.If you love Rome, you are welcome and can rest easy that Germanics upheld the HRE best of all, and I hope you will welcome me as well, even if we may joke at times, like I do with my German friends. I myself have Norse Scandinavian blood from Denmark confirmed to trace to a pagan Viking burial mound, those who resisted the church. Do not confuse the church with the imperium. Incidentally my other Danish ancestor was slaughtered by the English king in the St Brice massacre, because it seemed he did not like non-Christian vikings in his territtory. Kek.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojC-zTXSAsY
>>532828753Sorry, it's a lot to type and I am a bit drunk, and tired. Kek.None of us has a solution, I am not Elon Musk. I am an anonymous poster. We all must try what we have, and eventually, the gods will let one will stick. You revere the gods, as do I. that is enough.>>532828712Keep fuming about India. You emptied the heavens of gods and earth of heroes. Now we are atheist liberals who cant talk over women thanks to your autism.
>>532804156What language did they even converse in? I have some doubts Pilate would know Aramaic or Hebrew. And did Jesus speak Latin or Greek?
>>532828747You are getting it, that is the cosmic order, logos, 'the royal art' or dharma. Free from pathos and sentimentality, in clarity.It is total transformation of consciousness and expansion of awareness. This development of Being is what we lack today, under Christian conceptions.There are absolute metaphysical principles, and this is where the 'principalities' and sacral reality comes from. There are real and practical operations and a palpable experience of the supernatural without mystical flights of fancy. Emperors sought to initiation; the Japanese god-emperor 'made himself into a king'.The Initiatic and Wisdom form of religion is antithetical to the inverted Christian form. The essential meaning of every civilisation lay in the triumph of form over formlessness, of 'cosmos' over 'chaos.' at the heart of the classical conception of life and the State.Even at the heights of Christian mystical theology, which ostensibly follows this path, we nonetheless encounter a persistent dualism, one that seldom achieves the authentic, substantial transformation into the 'other'. In such a dualistic framework, the separation remains, and corresponding divine personae serve as mere expressions of a particular phase within the process, rather than the dissolution of the duality itself.This is because of Christianity perceiving god as external. The hallucination of another world and the pursuit of a messianic salvation beyond the present are the refuge of the failed, the outcast, the accursed; those incapable of embracing and willing their own reality. A symptom of souls marked by insufficiency, tormented by suffering, whose very essence is bound to unfulfilled desire.Genuine knowledge arises only when one is capable of transforming one's consciousness into the very object of understanding. This is where you get the theos aner (god-man, used for Augustus). Thus, only that which emerges from direct, personal experience is rightfully considered 'knowledge.'
>>532825846Yuck>>532828041No I'm not. Would you like proof?
>>532830905Not sure why my ID changed. Why is this website just a huge shitheap now
>>532829476Stop questioning the fake story
>>532829048>>532829319So you guys advocate for worshipping objects you've bestowed with magic powers? Youre worshipping cultic icons like statues and stuff and thats what you say Christianity should be replaced with?
>>532830693I own ride the tiger and revolt against the modern world. I’m going to start one tonight when I get home. Would you recommend one over the other to start? Thanks again, anon. I feel like a door on a path of discovery has been opened, because of you.
>>532803986I don't get it, christians aren't anti or pro jewish
>>532829139>>532829319No worries mate, it's too easy for us to quickly dismiss things and become hostile because there are so many shills and retards on here promoting nonsense. Check out Teutonic Mythology by Jacob Grimm if you haven't. He was able to reconstruct much of the Germanic spiritual tradition from linguistics and folklore. The earliest protowriting is 40000 years old and from Germany (this is only survivorship bias since we have nothing from Atlantis and Hyperborea) so it debunks the secular science idea that humans first began writing in the middle east. The Trachilos Footprints disprove the out of Africa claim by millions of years.>>532830693christian dualism comes from yids coping Zoroastrianism poorly into judaism. Zoroastrianism itself is a dualistic perversion of Zurvanism, which posits the eternal time alone as the foundation of universe. Guenon explains this in some of his essays.
>>532831707>teutonic mythology - GrimmI bought this 4 volume set a few years ago. It’s quite good. I’ve been building a library for my future children.
>>532824431Picrel is quite interesting. In a patriarchal society, it seems that calling someone a woman or a faggot would be a grievous insult. It’s like proto-shitposting and memetics.
>>532831171Revolt is his 'Pagan Traditionalism for dummies' book, so that shall introduce you to his ideas more plainly. It is a toned down version of 'pagan imperialism' where this comes from: >>532815559 It is very historiographical.If you want more ideas like my posts, you will find them in his 3 volume set introduction to magic, where he compiles essays and articles from his Ur Group on these subjects, and they take slightly different perspectives. Both Evola and Guenon ran journals/magazines with various contributors and have essay compilations like that. The 'praxis'-based initiation religion is likened to the art of the magus, rather than a moral system used as a political weapon, run amok. He even has a devastating take-down of Carl Jung in vol 3.I am glad I moved you and I appreciate it. However give some credit to your own soul and the inner genius-spirit guiding you down such paths, so stand upright. Recognise what speaks to you from within. You may have seen it in a glass surface, or not at all even with the most poetic words. Empower yourself. You are ready to heed the call.You may also want to delve into Eastern wisdom, there are good audiotapes on YouTube, but Evola sees a difference between the 'active' form of ascesis like in Buddhism and Olympian Hellenism, and lunar, 'self-emptying' discarnate modes like Brahminism. It doesn't mean it's bad or it can't help early on, just that it has a certain disposition and a certain place. To a newbie, it may be hard to tell at all, and indeed, initiation must proceed by stages and have deep personal significance. Gods speed to you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e6fRVQ0UcM&t=6s
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>>532803986OK KIKERAT
>>532803986This pic is so fucking true. Denounce the jew Christ, and Christians will call you jewish. They see no contradiction or irony in this.
>>532831858If you have or are going to have kids reading The False Principle of Our Education by Max Stirner is a requirement. I'd also recommend Haven in a Heartless World: The Family Besieged by Christopher Lasch.Good books from or on the Germanic MythosGermania - TacitusThe Nibelungenlied - UnknownThe Invincible - Guido von ListEncyclopedia of Norse and Germanic Folklore, Mythology, and Magic - Claude LecouteuxAny of the Nordic sagas are also good. Faust or Demian are good modern German works.I'd also recommend showing them English versions of any plays or musicals by Richard Wagner.
>>532831707Thank you friend, glad we come to an understanding, and work for one another's improvement, as intended. I am getting a copy now, and will delve in. Of course I will apply just as much curiosity here as elsewhere, and if I can gain new insight, it will be worth it. Or I would not be here in the first place. We must look to the past, but we are the men living now. And new scholarship is always emerging. Perhaps there shall be a 'dead sea scrolls' or 'rosette stone' moment for these cults.Jews have an innate subservient and guilty disposition, and their inferiority complex leads them to imitate the most popular cults and source of power. I am thankful Northern Europe did not have to deal with them until late in the period, it seems they focused their efforts on polluting Alexandria first and foremost. The Jewish messianism also derives both from the prophecies of Saoshyant, as well as the 'adventus' of each new Caesar. 'good news' is also taken from this. These myths, whether they can come to life again in our hands or not, serve a distinct purpose. As I said, Rome is the killshot to Jesus because Caesar is the original. They have taken so much from it, so nowadays we have people making schizo sola scriptura interpretations until you get Philip K. Dick inspiring the Matrix, because he (arguably rightly) reads Jesus as a communist radical against 'the empire'. If they could (and they tried), they would wipe out what little we do have. It is just a shit sandwich poisoning our people. Showing them that in fact, these ideas have a root, will at worst disarm them, at best? reinvigorate something truly great. Germanic or otherwise. Glad to see you are an ardent reader as well. Guenon has an essay comparing Jews to Gypsies, and it is well known that Freemasons have similar rights as some cults in Arabia, such as the Druze. So if you can track down that essay I'd be pleased.
>>532833450Good pic. It's something I've been picking on lately is how linked the German Resistance to Hitler was to Christianity and its churches and organisations.Christianity is the bane of our race's existence.
>>532833453It's one of Guenon's essays that's in Miscellanea, but I do not recall which one.>Showing them that in fact, these ideas have a root, will at worst disarm them, at best?Unfortunately, I don't think so. Only the few people who are already questioning their beliefs or open to the truth will be converted by the truth. You can find all sorts of papers and experiments on psychology showing people prefer comforting lies over the truth. "It is true that the masses have always been led in one manner or another, and it could be said that their part in history consists primarily in allowing themselves to be led, since they represent a merely passive element" - GuenonTherefore, most people must be carrot and sticked to their beliefs, so they must be carrot and sticked to believe the truth. Since we do not have institutional power, we are left with the carrot generally. Study christian missionaries, they converted people largely by violence and gifts. Look at the crazy evangelical churches in the US (the only ones growing their base) are with their TV quality production and events. If I had the money I'd build a temple to the gods, have an organ, choir, etc., and let people come for the music. Only then would I slowly convert them."People's opinions are mainly designed to make them feel comfortable; truth, for most people is a secondary consideration." - Bertrand RussellPerhaps I am too pessimistic because my experience, but I do not think merely showing people the truth makes them accept it.
>>532835322The incredible restlessness must stir and tire itself out of its own accord, but we are not men like the rest, not of this age. Perhaps not simply of 'a past age', either, but of a future one. A great man arises at the turning of the wheel, it may not be one of us, but it is simply not in our nature not to try and to authentically hold to our principles, even if they will, like Nietzsche, be recognise only in another time.Do not underestimate your ability to shape reality and to move people. That is what separates us from the followers. If the blustering 'clumping' of women lesser men can do it, we are no less. Hitler after all, was once an unknown man with a vision. The world is more destabilised than ever and hungers for new solutions. You occupy the centre, do not give it over to them.Return is inevitable, no matter how, or the cosmos woul have blinked out eons ago. We are the reflection of the last cycle, or perhaps the heralds of the coming one.
>>532835948Nuclear war and the close of this cycle already looms.Men like us number in the thousands if not millions.
Posted by kikes for kikes. God loves me. God hates stinky jews.
>>532835948Only two and a half years ago, I thought we would be outcasts and slaves to the jew forever, for decades.Now every /pol/ idea is mainstream. What else can mere men accomplish?
>>532804967Christkikery leads to Jewish takeover hence the current reality. You lost.
>>532811245Lol it peaked in the Enlightenment using violence and science retard
>>532803986Your gods have six arms. Away with you jeet.
>>532814085Christ is Jew
>>532812447Slavery is actually bad for an economy long term. It actively prevented the industrial revolution as well, so im not sure what point you're trying to make.
>>532836710The catholic church launched multiple crusades, funded the sciences despite the popular narrative, and Christianity itself was obsessed with objective truth which laid the foundation for the scientific explosion of the west. So, what are you gay or do you just hate your father and are a latent homosexual?
>>532835948>>532836508I've managed to convert a few people, but it still seems to me to be an underground movement. People generally dislike israel now, but they still say zionists not jews. And they don't realize christianity is jewish. Mentioning that judiasm is a supremacist death cult publicly will result in you never working a white collar job again. Change will come in the next generations when the boomers who were spoonfed everything they believe by jews on tv die. Pagan resistance persisted underground for centuries during the dark ages so I am not overly concerned immediately converting the masses. >>532836054I don't think we will see nuclear devices used in our lifetime if israel doesn't use them for this war to try and stop their 8th decade curse. Every other country seems to have a rational man in between order and the launch.
>>532831140Rome extended the logic of the hearthfire pater to the State.Thomas paine reverses the logic, extending his critique of monarchy to patriarchy itself, saying 'no ONE by BIRTH has the right to set up his own family...'How do we live now? Dating and feminism are the jewish 'garden of eden' and 'kingdom of god' where men are equal and we share wives communally.this is what rabbi yeshua fought for. cry talmudic golem.
>>532837522>'no ONE by BIRTH has the right to set up his own family...'his biblical criticism is hosted on marxists.org btw>>532837428>picrel.fascinating. but there is a reason why the mainstream culture is normie and centred on goycattle. it cannot last, however>nukesThey are madmen and capable of doing it. Trump's TS feed is full of Mark Levin, who begs him to use nukes every day. it is not entirely off the table. Putin's advisor said he is willing to nuke Britain and Germany and writes articles about it.It would be a fitting end to this mania. Perhaps the World Wars will look small in comparison.
>>532803986FUCK OFF WITH NIETZSCHE, YOU FUCKING TOURIST.
>>532837428LolI guarantee those people you "converted" will still pray to god in times of need and not Zeus. Also, calling yourself a pagan is hysterical. Do you have any way to define yourself that isnt just a word christians labeled you as? Pagan is an insult by the way. If you're praying to Zeus you would be a "Hellenist" monkey. Learn your own fake bullshit you don't actually believe. Its a big reason as to why you lost in the first place. You don't actually believe that shit
>>532808981>Is asked to prove he's pagan>Durrr look at my fire dude!LmaoWhereever you find a Nietzsche post, you will find a retard behind it
>>532837367The blank slate assertion has to be one of the most formidable ideas to come out of the enlightenment. It's mere secular christianity that we are all equal under yaweh, despite anyone with eyes seeing it's false. Modern science in genetics, psychology, and sociology have been totally hampered by this. The genetic fixation index between races show distinct species had man been any other animal, but it's racist to point out this inconsistency. The IQs of races must be entirely sociological, despite genes and heritability being greater factors. Genetic predispositions to psychological problems like jews and schizophrenia and cluster b disorders are also suppressed. And socially we must believe that all pupils are equal in ability in school bringing down the brightest to the level of the lowest. >>532837708I believe in the monad and Wotan, but saying pagan is easier since it includes all not abrahamic beliefs. I'm taking the word back xd>I guarantee those people you "converted" will still pray to god in times of need and not ZeusNo atheists in foxholes nonsense.>>532837686Bibi has to believe he has no more support from the US, which doesn't seem likely but you can never rule it out.
>>532837977>doesn't recognise the highest marker of office in paganismLol. Materialcuck. glad I gave you a kek. ywnba
>>532803986Proverbs 19:20Listen to advice and accept instruction, that you may gain wisdom in the future.
>>532838337The King of England attemping to pass the 'king are gods' pagan doctrine using biblical logic.It didn't work and the Puritans cut his son's head off (talmudic) for being a 'Pope' or 'Pharaoh' before running off to the New World to genocide natives as the amalek to create 'New Israel'Some of them snipped their cock lids off and became full jews.A few centuries later and Charlie Kirk has his neck blown out so we can do holy war with Iran and bring about Gog and Magoghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFEjVqTwHgY [Embed]I often wonder how these nomadic kikes with no caste or hierarchy dissolved the entire fucking world with their larp. It truly must be the Final Age, ironically. At this point tribal niggers doing voodoo in the congo have more legitimacy than this political radicalism passing itself off as spirituality.
>>532803986OP... I... I don't know if you should see this but...COPE AND SEETHE mi6.
>>532809418Nietzsche comparing the ancient struggle of 'good and evil' to 'Rome vs Jews' and casually calling Christians, Jews, who are monstrum (the Tacitus citation is talking about Christians as monstrum, but Romans legally considered them the same (2 drachma capitation tax for kikees) and Nietzsche also lumps them together. based. obviously a classicist knows.
>>532839580>names his book anti christ>h-he wasn't talking about us though!do you hear your desperation chrigger? soon you will troon out as is your custom
>>532839934So according to your logic populations of Greece, Turkey, Syria, Lebanon etc. are also Romans. Or does it only apply to the modern nations you like?
>>532840303I do not know why you are bringing up Greece or making assumptions about me; the topic is Europe and its inheritance. Greece has always been considered a forefather. It is Graeco-Roman. Byzantium literally called its populace ‘Romans’ for centuries, just as the HRE claimed Roman continuity.Alexander the Great was so renowned across the warrior-cult infused Islamic world that the Alexander Romance was translated into all its major languages, and his legend became so deeply embedded there that he entered the Qur’an itself as Dhū al-Qarnayn.The empire had split long before the Ottomans took Anatolia, and the Ottomans themselves also laid claim to Rome; everyone wanted Rome. The Caliph styled himself Kaiser-i-Rum, claiming Roman succession. Alexandria in Egypt, founded by Alexander the Great himself still bears statues dedicated to Caesar. All these lands retain Roman imprint and prestige, but imprint is not continuity; did Egypt or Turkey preserve Roman language, law, and offices? After Rome proper, the HRE became Europe’s new centre. To ignore Islamic and Arabian civilisational influence is simply ignorant. Arguably, the Levant could scarcely be fully tamed even by Rome itself. I regularly question if Judaea should have been incorporated at all., Do you want to be Roman?Rome itself never claimed to be ‘the West’; that is a later impulse. Rome claimed to be the world: Sōtēr tês oikoumenês.You are confusing lands marked by Rome with lands that carried Rome forwards. Plenty claimed Roman succession; that only shows how irresistible Rome’s prestige was.Imprint is one thing, continuity another. The question is who preserved Roman language, law, office, and civilisational form, rather than merely draping themselves in Roman prestige.All these lands inherited Roman prestige, but prestige is not succession; continuity lies in law, language, office, and civilisational form.
>>532841375Fair answer sorry for my assumption.
>>532841375>for centuries*for a millennium Turkey has one of the most important versions of the Alexander Romance.
>>532842034No worries, everyone wants to prove their claim online. be proud of the heritage and your piece of the story. I am always open to new information and I study global cultures. Half of my posts are about India or Egypt. Ottoman Empire has some cool customs and letters with the Caliph I like reading. You can't be a Roman fan without visiting Alexandria. Even Israel has museums with statues.I'll say one thing, Jews still think in the ancient categories we have forgotten. they are more aware than most of us. Europeans are still catching up to wtf is going on. we had the dark ages then the enlightenment, and both have left clashing imprints.
>>532842370Cool map I found the other day in my art folder.Alexander wanted one world. Rome tried to complete his dream. I was watching the Cleopatra Elizabeth Taylor movie last week, they go over it.
>>532842370I do usually visit at least couple of cities on Aegean coast each summer. It is sad most of the local population doesn't know/understand their connection to a broader heritage.
>>532837522So are you anti-christianity, pro-monarchy, pro-worship of monarchs and pagan idols? How would you summarize your basic beliefs?>>532837686nature disapproves it, otherwise she would not so frequently turn it into ridicule by giving mankind an ass for a lionPaine was 100% right. Thats the thing with monarchy and heriditary succession- you get weaklings and losers that stay in power indefinitely. Its against nature, making people rely on human hierarchical organization schemes that favor losers instead of the survival of the fittest.
>>532842792We believe in metaphysics, the solar and patrician cult of the hearth, not in ius naturale:>>532814215Ius naturale and survival of the fittest natural selection is characteristic of gynaecocratic mother cults.
>>532803986Nietzsche was a sickly, weak, effeminate degen who was afraid of loud noises, sunlight, and cheese. He wrote entire books about “the will to power” while living off milk and cookies his mommy brought him. He couldn’t fight. He couldn’t lead an army. He couldn’t even handle loud music without vomiting. He never punched anyone, never commanded anyone, never exercised "will to power" in any way.Nietzsche was a coward and a hypocrite. As soon as he saw an ubermensch rejecting slave morality and excercising his will to power by beating the everloving fuck out of a horse he had a mental break down and started crying like a pussy. He ran forward, threw his arms around the horse’s neck, and sobbed like a toddler who dropped his ice cream. Then he went home, collapsed, and never wrote another coherent sentence. Spent the last decade of his life drooling in an asylum, calling himself “the crucified one” and weeping uncontrollably.Nietzsche hated Christianity and called it "slave morality" because an incel with zero self-control. Christianity said things like "flee from sexual immorality" and "control your body." Nietzsche, by his own admission and his doctors' notes, struggled constantly with chronic masturbation. He was exhausted, anxious, and half-blind because he wouldn't stop jerking it. He didn't reject Christian ethics because he'd transcended them. He rejected them because they made him feel guilty about his own lack of discipline and self-control. So, he rebranded his compulsions as "will to power" and called self-denial "decadence." That's not philosophy, that's cope.That’s your hero. A weak, cowardly, effeminate, chronically masturbating manlet who talked big about masters and slaves until someone actually acted like an ubermensch and then he cried like a bitch over a horse.
>>532803986Nietzsche was, is and always will be an absolute idiotic mentally ill faggot. The same goes for any of his fanboys
>>532846635>>532846683*worships rabbi karl marx of rome
>>532846635Now do Hitler! no one cares about your “trust me bro” stories, written by (((legit historians))), you kike faggot.
>>532804910Kek people love him but still hate him, pagancuckery is pure schizophrenia
Just like His Majesty Charles II kicked out the Puritans that killed his dad for christophrenia and reopened the theatres with smut and pagan gods, depicting his own apotheosis and claiming descent from Alba Longa, We (royal We) shall be incorporating you back into the isles after clearing out the jew-worshipping rebels. Now is your chance Puritans, to Apologise.>CAROLVS * SECVNDVS * PACIS * ET * IMPERII * RESTITUTOR * AVGVSTVS.>Charles II styled as a Roman Emperor, with his girlfriend as Britannia, a Roman goddess.
>>532803986Nietzsche got a lot right. Unfortunately, none of what he got right is what he is known for.
>>532825583>The defeater of christianityanother christian american writing like a five year old.christianity falls on its own weight from spiritual, cultural and social rotevery 400 years,each christian kingdom/emprie just died because if its own decadence and refusal for accountability to be met.same shit with communism, no different at all.
And why should we worship gods like wotan and zeus then
>>532847492You shouldn't, little cuck. We shall>>>>>532814263They are actually real
>>532847117https://www.britishmuseum.org/about-us/british-museum-story/contested-objects-collection/parthenon-sculpturesThomas Bruce, 7th Earl of Elgin, obtained a controversial firman from the Ottoman authorities (who then ruled Greece) permitting him to take casts and drawings of the Parthenon sculptures. Between 1801 and 1812, his agents removed a large portion of the frieze, metopes, and pedimental figures, along with architectural fragments, and shipped them to Britain. In 1816, during the Regency, the British government purchased them from Elgin and placed them in the British Museum, where they remain, spotlighting our Trojan and Roman ancestry and institutions, which always exists in tension with the Biblical narrative, and is most scorned by Puritan-descendants.Other Greek antiquities also arrived in Britain during this time, often through purchase or excavation, though none with the same notoriety as the Elgin Marbles. For example:>The Phigaleia (Bassae) Marbles – Sculptures from the Temple of Apollo at Bassae (Phigaleia) in Arcadia were discovered by Charles Robert Cockerell and others in 1812. They were sold to the British Museum in 1814, during the Regency.>Smaller collections of vases, bronzes, and inscriptions – A number of British travellers, diplomats, and antiquarians (such as Cockerell and Dodwell) brought back smaller Greek antiquities, many of which entered private collections or eventually the British Museum.So Britons have a unique view of the Masonic-American Christophrenia.Britannia has had several Graeco-Roman revivals from the Stuarts to the Regency.We've had the Hanover kings from the HRE, and several Graeco-Roman revival periods such as the Augustan period of the Regency. With the promulgation of literature, arts linking Albion and Alba Longa (home of Roman aristocracy), architecture, plays, Greek artefacts (Elgin marbles), etc.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustan_literature
>>532847260>reads my posts and thinks I'm christianlol, lmao evenchristianity still exists despite the christian empires collapsing. There are more christians now than ever. You are retarded and unserious.>>532847492Humans require ritual acts. Do you want to worship the gods of old or yaweh the desert demon of jews?
>>532847604So those gods are not worth caring about besides learning about mythology
>>532846854>if you don't worship the physical embodiment of reddit then you are a jew!
>>532847824You're a big guy.
>>532847731I worship no god because why should I worship something that is essentially a primitive personification of nature
>>532808341>do you usually listen to crackheads for wisdom, anon?Not any worse than listening to pedophiles or their enablers, which is your typical Christian and Muslim theologian.
>>532846815>if you don't worship this retarded kike lover it means you worship this other retarded literal kikeKill yourself, Ahmed Stuart bin Salam Dickinson
>>532847929Bane?
>>532847982Do you agree somethings in the universe are beyond human understanding? If so, then look to neoplatonic thought to start. If not, then you have simply made yourself a god and worship yourself; the act of a blind narcissist. Simple as
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>>532804910>>532811289>>532832317>>532846635>Fred making evangelicucks seethe so much they become as flagrantly dishonest as kikes to attack him One loves to see it.
>>532837708"Converted" another chrigger muttmerican who dont know european history consisting of osme 1600 years of persecutions.we were literally easy game because we deliberately worked with them to expand trade, christians stabbed us in our backs.and the big change began to happen with an extreme cold hitting scandinavia around the 7th-8th century.if you pray to a semitic religion, dont come here and pretnd like you have a solution to any of our problems.you are the problem.
>>532837274>christkike lies through his teeth>finishes it off with unprovoked babbling about gay sexEvery single fucking time.
>>532837708They're all larping
>>532848461You and britanon have put me on a new path, thanks to this enlightening thread today. Thank you.
>>532848461Most American whites are entirely European in ancestry; that is a verifiable fact. Integration was forced at gunpoint. Your accusation of mutt just shows you are a raped swede cuckold or jew. If you believe Americans are mutts you believe all Europeans secretly wish to racemix but are unable, which says way more about you than anything else.
>>532847731>oy vey goy there's more of usAnd they're all worthless brown cargo cultists clinging to the dying remains of people who spent their lives cucking to, feeding, trying to build up, and importing the third world at the behest of jews.
