Why aren't Europeans terrified even when the U.S. says it will leave NATO? Right now the majority of Congress is held by Republicans and they still strongly support Trump. A U.S. withdrawal from NATO is not just a bluff but a very possible scenario. So why can Europeans so confidently tell the U.S. to just get out? Most European nations don't even have their own weapons so I really don't understand this at all
>>532805367ZOG go home
>>532805367Trump's just trying to blackmail them into getting on board with the Iran War. Even if he did withdraw the US from NATO, the next President would just immediately reverse that.
>>532805367The truth my moon faced friend is that most of us colonies and europeans would gladly welcome death if it meant the end of the American hegemony.
>>532805367Thr US is not actually going to leave NATO. The US and The five eyes and NATO all operate together in one sodomite conspiracy.
>>532805367Everyone hope they fuck Off Home ...!!!HOPE!!!
>>532805367>A U.S. withdrawal from NATO is not just a bluff but a very possible scenarioCool, I hope they do it and crash their economy completely so thst we can stop pretending they are our allies
>>532805367>Why aren't Europeans terrified even when the U.S. says it will leave NATO?because they wont do shit. people who are actually in charge know that this would start a downfall of the US of epic proportions because they are not fart huffing Miggers with the economic understanding of a 7 year old.
>>532805367>Most European nations don't even have their own weaponsNeither they have enemies. And ones who do are actually considerably armed, and their enemies have been sufficiently weakened.
>>532805367They're not terrified because they know the US isn't even capable of protecting them anymore, that has been proven fairly solidly with the Iran situation. We are a paper tiger, our military despite being the most expensive on Earth is completely outdated, when the price of that non protection is going to a losing war on Israel's behalf, obviously European countries will gladly tell us to fuck off.
>>532805367Uh we just hate them that much.
>>532805367>Why aren't Europeans terrified even when the U.S. says it will leave NATOBecause after the first half of 2025 nobody in Europe, at least nobody who matters, assumes that the US would follow through with their NATO-based security commitments should article V be invoked due to Russian aggression against European NATO member(s).>but why is Rutte licking Trump's boots then? Why are the European leaders still talking about how the US is an important security partner?Because they want to maintain the illusion of a functional US deterrent in Europe for as long as possible and to make the United States take the diplomatic hit of withdrawing their own forces if they actually want go through with the Trans-Atlantic divorce.
>>532805367>Why aren't Europeans terrified even when the U.S. says it will leave NATO?>USofA desert from NATO>No US airbases at all in Evrope anymore; no refueling for US AF planes on the way to support Israel>No US Forces Medi Center in Evrope anymore; wounded have to be flown to the US directlySo.. yeah, go on with that great idea>
I'm sure the mutts would love to see a rearmed and not so amenable Europe in the near future.Europe is a bit of a basket case at the moment but it will eventually get its shit together and then the US will have to not only deal with China but Europe. You can say I'm coping hard but a friendly, declawed Europe would be far better for the mutts than one that doesn't slavishly follow US interests.Trump can squeal and shart all he wants but the deep state know pulling out of Europe is a non starter
>>532805473Kek this
>>532805367listen here dis ain no damn simplificashun aight its a whole muhfuckin vibe shift dem european folk ain walkin round shakin in dey boots no mo. dey done stopped panickin an started preppin frfr. its 2026 baby an dey ain terrified an heres why da fuck not.>1. dat paperwork b hittin differentyall think dat presdent just gon snap his fingers an bounce out nato? nah son. dat shit locked up inna back room.>congress b on datway back inna day, '23, congress slid a law thru sayin dat fool cant leave nato lessen two-thirds da senate say "bet" or congress run dat whole play again. das a wall rite dere.>even da repubs ain all crazyu got dudes like marco rubio, he secetary state now, dat man wuz onea da first muhfuckas to sign dat paper blockin a dumbass exit. dey establishment type. dey know da gig.>2. shit dey been woke since '16ain nobody terrified cuz dis ain new news. we been livin widdis threat since trump first popped off. da scary part ovah. now its bout handlin bidness.>bands gettin thrown2024 an 25? dey bustin da defense budget wide open. by '26 erry last one of dem nato spots hittin dat 2% mark or better. fuck around an look at poland or da baltics, dem fools pushin 4% or 5% like it ain shit.>putting bread in dey own pocketdey dropped ova 100 billi euro just in '24 on defense. an guess wut? dey ain coppin strictly from uncle sam no mo. dey buildin dey own hammers in dey own backyard.
>>532806166>3. europe ain no damn preystop playin w em like dey ain got no stick. dey ain got da numbers we got but dey got heat datll still turn yo block to ash.>dem heavy hittersfrance germany an da uk. u hear me? leopards (tanks) rafales (jets) astute-class (subs dat sneak up on yo ass). das grown man tech.>dey got da button toofrance an da uk strapped nuclear. u think dey gon just stand dere an take a fade cuz we took our umbrella home? hell naw. dey got dey own lil raincoat.>ukraine woke em updat war ovaseas? dat shit turned da lights on in da idle factory. dey spittin out shells an drones now like its da muhfuckin cold war part 2.>4. da pipo is fed upgo check da temp on da street ova dere in '26. its a whole fuck u pay me mood.>skeptical ass vibesin spots like denmark an germany? dey ain really feelin america like dat no mo. respect been revoked.>dey own squadova 80% of dem folks sayin "lets just roll deep togetha on our own." dey ain beggin dc fa no handout. dey talkin bout dey own army or a european pillar inside nato where dey call da shots.>5. hold up we need dey shit toodon get it twisted. dis ain a one-way street. dey got leverage out da ass.>greenland an iran messwe got beef ova greenland an dat 2026 iran situashun? watch wut happen when dey say "yall cant use our airspace an yall cant park on our curb." suddenly our global ops get mad complicated.>dat defense breadmang listen our defense companies made like $43 billi off europe in '24 alone. if we pull up out da pain completely? das a bag fumble datll have contractors cryin in dey beemers.europe ain outchea screamin "get da fuck out!" cuz dey want us gone. nah. dey just ain bout to let nobody gas em up an hold da friendship ovah dey head like a threat. we been sayin "im leavin" too long. dey finally stopped sweatin an started buildin dey own crib. dat bluff? called.
>>532805367Congress can't even pass funding for airport security bro
>>532805367get out, go away, F off, the English language has an inexhaustible amount of words to tell fat American boorish oafs to take their piss poor army, they way over priced shitty weapons and get the f out of our lands. Oh and take your vile films your fat bitches your faggot signers and all your woke tranny pish and stick them under your cringe cowboy hats as well. No one will miss you. As if you've been protecting us, lol. you're all dreaming if you think an Englishman needs anything you got.
>>532805367The US was never going to help us to begin with, only use us as bordermarch.What seething burgers don't understand, because they are brainwashed from birth, us that the reason the EU countries have weak militaries is because the US wanted it that way. Because this 'dependency' was how politicians that rule on behalf of their american master excuses us tolerating their bullshit. The whole idea that the US is doing us some favour and we just don't want bigger militaries is hilarious, when Germany for example still has treaty limitations on our military.Within NATO our armies were supposed to be just big enough to support american warmongering, but never big enough to enable sovereignity. That was the (quite well made) american imperial system.
>>532805367Because i think Trump wants to leave NATO anyway, and like a coward is just trying to get us to do the breaking up
>>532805367
>>532805367Well, biggest threat to Europe atm is internal terrorism and externally expansionist Russia. For now Russia is contained with it's war in Ukraine. Europe has sufficient troops to defend itself against Russian agression and French nuclear umbrella does protect Germany and Poland among others. US brings significant manpower and logistical advantage, but if it is unreliable or means dragging Europe into conflicts in Middle-East or potentially China, it might be better for americans voluntarily exit NATO. I mean despite a lot of shit peace with russia is possible, after all Ukraine was Nuland's war. China as a peace treaty guarnatator. It's possible. Or if not Europe can wage war with Russia either directly or indirectly without US support. We are currently funding Ukraine and intelligence, and all things considered US did big fuck all for Ukraine, compared to Europe.
You need a supermajority in the senate to leave NATO. TACO Trump is just seething and malding that his zogwar flopped.
>>532805367Europe massively upped their defense budgets last year and are undergoing a historic remilitarization. Germany in particular has agreed to take on 500bn euro debt to remilitarize. US is no longer needed to defend Europe from Russia. Given that Trump is so friendly with Putin, it's not even cleary why the US is still in Europe.
Trump can't leave NATO without a 2/3 senate majority.
>>532806413My reaction would just be "You should leave now, it's really not safe on this planet"
>>532806564Ukraine by itself is stomping Russia, and there hasn't been a single American penny going to them for a year. Europe as a whole would decimate Russia. Poland, Finland, and the Baltics states could conquer Moscow and St Petersburg over a weekend.
Like the fuck Russia could do with EU after they conquer it? They can't even exploit their own resources and only stabilized because of the chinese "loans" even if they could "loot" whatever left of europe I highly believe it would cost them more than they gain from it.
>>532806645Exactly so the only reason the US maintains its European bases is so they can assist Israel. Those bases were never going to be used to protect Europe from anything. They keep threatening to leave as if the Europeans are meant to be scared of this, so leave already
>>532806746Yes, US NATO bases are 100% Israel support bases. We saw that in the middle east. The Arab oil state bases were all basically fake & gay, not capable of defending anything. They were just forward radar outposts to give Israel quicker warning.
what ivan gonna do
>>532806645Lol. Lets not do the Russia thing again!If the US want to leave NATO it can just pull its bases out of Europe at any time (there arent NATO bases to pull out of in the US)
>>532806430Russia won't be starting any third world wars China won't let them
The moment America leaves NATO, America and Europe will become enemies. Trump hasn't given up on Greenland. If America withdraws from NATO and invades Greenland, would any European country really fight America just to protect a neighbor’s frozen colonial island? No. No European nation would ruin its diplomatic relations with America over Denmark. That's right. The moment America leaves NATO, NATO simply dissolves. In other words, if America loses this war, NATO disappears along with it. Stupid Europeans probably still have no idea how dire the situation is.
>>532805367Why should we? We are rearming right now and Russia is stuck in Ukraine. Until Russia would be ready to attack us, we will be strong enough to deter them without the USA.
>>532805367Nobody believes the Anglo-Zionist Jewish Empire of Satan will ever leave Germany and allow them to be free.
>>532805591>The US and The five eyes and NATO all operate together in one sodomite conspiracy.I call it the Anglo-Zionist Jewish Empire of Satan.
>>532806876>would any European country really fight America just to protect a neighbor’s frozen colonial island? No.fuck off memeflag, French troops were alrady deploying there. Yes Europe would fight for European territory
>>532805367America will never leave NATO willing. It's more a question if Europe will ever push America out of Europe.
>>532805367Because we're led by delusional morons and also both Turkey and Russia are hilariously weak right now so it's kinda okay because we ain't alone in the mental asylum.
>>532806876Not really, If America leaves Nato will be co-opted as European union military arm and another tool for EU integration. Europe likes things being complex and difficult.
>>532806564>Germany in particular has agreed to take on 500bn euro debt to remilitarize.Don't know where you heard that bullshit. Most of that is flowing into Ukraine (and from there into politician pockets). Its not intended for the military, it was planned under "infrastructure investments".
>>532805367i'm at a point in my life where i don't give a shit anymoret. born in 84
>>532805367Ok? Why is this a bad thing?They lose their buffer zone in the EU and we become more self reliant and united without them. And we even possibly open dialogue with Russia.Win-Win for all of Europe.
>>532805367Personally I got used to it. Them fatlards would jump in only at Israel's request, NATO membership or not
>>532806876you do know he already controls greenland with US bases right, he doesn't actually care it's just a pretext to quit nato
>>532806958M8 As a European, no European would want to lay down their life to protect Greenland
>>532805367To leave NATO you need 2/3 of Congress, republicans have the majority but not 2/3 majority, this is just impotent kvetching, Trump can only do his impotent EO and then while getting shut down he will tell his zogbots to leave, what a fucking clown.
>>532807186>Most of that is flowing into Ukraine (and from there into politician pockets).Don't know where you heard that bullshit.
>>532806876Trump has already decided to go. He just doesnt want to look too bad when he slides in the knife...We will all just hve to make the best of it...
>>532807306Clubbing mutts to death like seals. Sign me up.
>>532805367Well, russia right now is in a state of accelerating collapse so our enemies are weak. And what good is an ally who threatens to invade and starts trade war with you, among many other things that have happened since orange frog took over
>>532805367We live on an island and have nuclear weapons
>>532807306Greenland?
>>532807481Like the conspiritards of old we must also blame satanism
>>532807306There are other ways to get back at Trump's admin if they invade Greenland
>>532805367NATO was primarily for defence against Russia/SU. Russia can't even handle Ukraine. I'm not bothered. We have our own nukes (yes, independently controlled), as does France if it comes to it.
>>532805367NATO exists to keep USA in, keep Russia out and keep Germany downUSA leaving would be a good thing for the latter two
>>532805367Because Europeans have no survival instinct. It's the same reason Germans can ask for help defending Ukraine from Russian aggression while shutting off their nuclear power plants and going to solar energy in North Europe until they come to heads with reality and start buying Russian oil and burning coal. At their core they're very unserious people. All of the people worth anything emigrated centuries ago.
>>532806876Cool. Yanks out. Fuck off yanks.
>>532807686>All of the people worth anything emigrated centuries ago.
>>532805367Honestly, I have no idea about the consequnces of that.As long as we don't get nuked, I don't actually see us getting invaded for now.> Africa too poor> Russia won't get past poland> China has no interest here and is too far away> Only america might invade, which is probably the planThe only threat is that people stop selling us resources. But europe pays well and in willing to do diplomacy. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if this is no problem whatsoever for us.Iran was also willing to sell to us no problem. So is saudi arabia, I bet.
>>532807686>Europeans have no survival instinctArent you guys being replaced by Mexicans and Pajeets right now?Arent you fighting big wars for Israel?
>>532807655USA fears a European rival. U.S. occupation of Europe prevents it.
>>532806876>No European nation would ruin its diplomatic relations with America over DenmarkIf the mutts invade Greenland then there is no point in having any diplomatic relations with them going forward. A European army will be formed and US interests in the ME will be actively thwarted by Europe. No direct access to the gulf, no direct access to Isreal. Say goodbye to the petrodollar as US treasuries will be dumped. I don't think Canada will be too thrilled about any annexation of Greenland as well since it would be an existential threat to them and Trumps nonsense of making them the 51st state.
>>532807801A fat stupid pedo lmao
>>532807835Nigel, unlike you I've actually been to the UK. When I visited 20 years ago Birmingham was already a Pakistani enclave. Hilarious of you of all people to talk about muh demographics. America is so immensely large that having pockets of little Mexico is not nearly as bad as being trapped on a small island with an even higher ratio of the third world right next door to you. Me? All of my neighbors are American.
>>532805367>Right now the majority of Congress is held by Republicans and they still strongly support Trump. A U.S. withdrawal from NATO is not just a bluff but a very possible scenario.nope, their majority is very weak, like 1 or 2 repswhile at least 1/3 of GOP are anti-trump RINOs such as Don Bacon
>>532807857When you realise how many Europeans the usa needs to drive into the usa to fix it's demographics everything makes a lot more sense.
>>532808017>Nigel, unlike you I've actually been to the UKLol. I was born, bred and live here
>>532808017>our more diverse demographics are actually better
>>532808017>All of my neighbors are American.
>>532808029also support for Trump has fractured in the House, the neocons supporting the Iran war are the RINOs who would protest the motionwhile the MAGAtards who would support the motion, are abandoning trump, dismayed by his actions in iran (and already preparing for 2028, no point in supporting Trump for them since he's a lame duck now basically)
>>532808180>lol. pic of whitest modern american
>>532807428Der Bund der Steuerzahler checks where money is flowing and that money going into ukraine is embezzles in huge volumes is hardly a secret either.We also had multiple scandals of politicians having arrangements with beneficiaries of these investments from deals in germany.Retard.
>>532808271It was settled by incels looking for native pussy.
>>532808139>>532808175>>532808180>>532807994>>532807835Please remember that 70% of London's population consists of immigrants lol
>>532808333Religious mongoloids who couldn't handle the banter
>>532808397To be fair, nobody wanted to move back to London after they were evacuated in WW2.
>>532805367- the US has been 100% un-trustable for a year now- people started re-adjusting instantly because there's no going back after Trump did what he did- new alliances and agreements have been forged, many more still to come- middle powers have rejigged and taken on new roles- new directions for everyone, leaving the US behind- France, for example, has pulled all their American gold holdings out of the USA, many such happenings ---- but the US media doesn't report it to Americans ...hmm- the US dollar $$$ is about to lose reserve currency status, which will turn the US upside-down like a 9/11 happening in every townsometimes you've gotta do what you've gotta dothere's nothing to be gained by waiting
>>532805367The rest of the world is banking on China being their new BFF.
>>532808397Qué? Qué? No hablo ingles
Its clear that they are on the Russian side so it really doesn't matter at all. And after watching Russia get dunked on in Ukraine the Russians are the least of our problems atm.
>>5328053671) its not gonna happen2) if it happens, we don't really have an enemy that can seriously threaten us. Russia don't want war with Europe. 3) our only threat is mass migration, and that's what we need to focus on
>>532808139The contrast is that you've never been to America. ESL retard.
European armies are dogshit and comically unprepared, but even without the US European airforces still absolutely mog Russia. It would look much like the Iran war, Europe basically free to drop bombs on Russia, Russia can respond only with missiles.
>>532808118Literally 100,000,000 and they'd be overjoyed to get them.
>>532805367Russia can’t even invade Ukraine and they just lost a million troops. Why are they an actual threat to Europe? Russia is the only thing threatening Europe so now it’s clear they’re a paper tiger, EU doesn’t really need US in NATO that much. Plus France and UK have nukes which is enough of a deterrent to RUS
Oh no!Sionist occupants please stay, don't leave us!What will we do without your tiny hats?
Ha... Reading through the comments, the reactions from europeans seem way too delusional..Rearmament is not something that happens overnight. It takes years just to build the factories.On top of that, the entire continent is suffering from record low birth rates, making it nearly impossible to secure the labor force needed for munitions plantsSure, let’s say you buy weapons from places like china or s.korea etc... But half of europe, especially western Europe, is so overrun with immigrants that it will be nearly impossible to find loyal soldiers to recruit.Those immigrants are the very first ones who will run away as soon as a war breaks out. Do you really think they will bleed for a continent they don't even call home?
>>532810674>RearmamentFor what?
>>532811027for whatever war trumptanyahu have in store for us next
>>532810674you can say all these things without pretending you are european yourself.
>>532811271What would that be?
>>532805367Good fuck USA. They literally made us weak. Even my shithole country used to produce all military stuff before kikea and mutta stepped in. Without kike-mutt cartel we can do it again even if it takes years. Never trust mutts again.
>>532805367We will be fine, lolActually, we will do better without the muttsThey’re the ones screeching for our assistance
>>532806166>>532806200Based and ebonicspilled
I mean, American can pull the >Ally with Russian to fuck over EUCard
>>532811400total mutual goy annhilation
>>532810674Go back to asia/russia
>>532805367My country is pretty safe and i’m an accelerationist that hates kikes and paying to kikes. I only see positives in this.
>>532811986Such as?
>>532812225I heard Spain is giving amnesty to 500k brown immigrants.
>>532812459Yes, they’re going your way, bone apple teeth
>>532806946If you did Jewish Empire of Worshipping Satan the acronym would be AZ-JEWS
>>532812417total mutal goy annihilation
>>532812459>libtards flooding the country with 10s of thousands of rapist dindus>still paying for the khazarian nato alliance>stop paying jews>libtards still flooding the country with dindusstill unironically sounds like a net win
>>532812514Yes that's what i fear being in the same "union" as southern europeans.>>532812733They still control our politicians through other means.Our current sionist government signed a treaty with american ZOG, literally capitulating our sovereignty.They can do pretty much whatever they want militarily in our country now.
>>532805644Euros have the weirdest conspiracies about NATO. You don't pay us to be there. We don't gets special deals for being part of NATO. Being part of NATO doesn't save us anything on our defense budget. You're not even particularly productive in any industries we lack. Why would leaving NATO hurt our economy at all.
>>532812691Lay out the scenario for me.
>>532813057What, you’re too good for second hand niggers? You’d still catch em all even without us here.
>>532813114Jews create civil war between muzzies and whitesIts in their blood, if a kike doesnt do kike things he withers away
>>532813105All European partners in Nato buy some of your military materials, it's called standardization.Of course this market benefits the US, unlike Israel we actually have to pay for the materials.Americans being staged militarily in our countries however is about geopolitical control, to keep us "safe" like they put it.In other words it's a sionist occupation of our continent.
>>532813105>You don't pay us to be thereExcept all the mandatory small arms and equipment that we have to by from you
>>532806357You have BPD. The US has been consistently asking Europe to build stronger militaries for 2 decades.
>>532805367They are fucking stupid.
>>532813214Southern European countries are very lax with enforcing their borders.Like you're not even following the Schengen laws.>>532813289A war might not even happen at his point, we are just being ethnically cleansed from our own countries by the sheer volume alone of brown colonizers. Our authoritarian ZOG police state is keeping everything under control with soft and hard power so that the native goys don't get any ideas.So that the ethnic cleansing can continue uninterrupted.
Because the US is already the most hostile country to Europeans interest. The US has weaponized it's judicial system and the US dollar to undermine European attempts at self sovereignty for decades. If the US leaves NATO, so what ? Only below zero IQ regards think Russia poses a serious threat to Europe.
>>532805367Terrified? Europeans have only disarmed ourselves since WW2 because we understand how destructively efficient we are at warfare, we easily conquered the world and then turned on eachother to wage two of the most devastating wars in human history.I guess you could say we have been terrified, but not of any external force, they wouldn't stand a chance, we've been terrified about what we will do to eachother again.
>>532805367Oh no, I'm literally shaking right now that US is about to lose all their bases in Europe from which they launch all their wars in Africa and Middle East and lose around 405 of their MIC market. Oh noes how we poor Europe are going to recover from this great loss.
>>532813643*40%
>>532813552Russia is an existential threat to Israel, therefore they goys in Europe needs to agitate and provoke Russia while the sionist governments ethnically cleanse us with weaponized immigration.Russia bad, China bad, Iran bad, Immigration good, sionist coopted government good, don't question it goys take your vaccination.
>>532813626The jews are also terrified, that's why they have soldiers stationed in all our countries if we decided that we wanted to be free from their oppression again.
>>532805367Europe doesn't face any credible military threat except from Israel and its captured jamgoy, the US
>>532813105>We don't gets special deals for being part of NATOYes you do, you fucking moron. The entirety of your economy is built upon the fact that everybody is using green paper that you print as currency. The volume of the disparity that this created is viewed by Americans as a pure feat of their competency. It is not. And without NATO and a world wide spanning network of support and hosts, the US can no longer create an environment where the choices are>Use the greenback and get good deals, get mostly left alone, and be seen as le good guoy>or else!the choice used to be glaringly obvious. not anymore. you shouldnt listen to cuddled retards on TV
>>532805367>Why aren't Europeans terrified even when the U.S. says it will leave NATO?Because we want to be free of US military occupation, free of US military rapes, free of US military killings.Death to America!Total zogbot death!>Most European nations don't even have their own weaponsHow stupid are you, Bubba?
>>532805367NATO has two reasons to exist.First is to sell US made weapons. They are indeed high tech and cool, but overpriced and useless in a long term conflict. The second is to keep Russia at bay, but as it turns out, the Russians are more retarded than anyone could have imagined, so they aren't that big of a deal when it comes to conventional war. And if they use the nukes, they are just as destructive with or without the US in NATO.
>>532806357This. The US pulling out of Europe is would be too good to be true.
>>532813290>>532813327Standardization just means things have to be the same size. America buys weapons from Europe too. Europe is free to, and often does, produce their own weapons or buy from non US producers.>but america secretly forces us to buy their stuff because NATOAgain, conspiracy theories. If that were true, America could secretly control you without NATO and you would do what we want you to. You're just making up stories why you're not actually freeloaders taking advantage of a cold war relic.
>>532805367the US is a paper eagle
>>532813870The value to the US of foreigners holding the dollar is easy to calculate. It's about $10 billion a year. We'll be fine.
>>532814387True, the american goys buy our superior materials as well. Because there is nothing better than what we produce. However we get to buy your dogshit patriot system, now that's just pure corruption.
>>532805367An effectively US-backed Russia is getting its military and economy completely destroyed in Ukraine. What are we supposed to be afraid of?
>>532810674If the US withdraws from NATO and it becomes effectively meaningless, the first system to return in Europe will likely be conscription lolSo, I hope we withdraw from NATO as soon as possible. Only then will stupid europeans realize that peace in Europe has been maintained entirely by our military power, and they will come back to us, asking us to returnAt that point, instead of a one-sided protection, a true alliance can finally be formed where both sides protect each other
>>532805367Its impossible to please Trump. We tried. So now we have to act according to our own interests and America will have to decide what they want to do, we cant influence that anymore. If Trump wants out and lose all the advantages, trade, bases intel etc. he can leave. All we can do is adapt.
>>532805367Why would I be terrified? American bases dont make anyone safer.
>>532805367>Why aren't Europeans terrified even when the U.S. says it will leave NATO?There's an exacerbation and sense of 'had enough', of Trump in trying to deal with him. When his barely eligible rants can change and contradict each other not just by the day, but by the hour.Leaving NATO means isolationism. For the USA that means changing from a world power to a regional one. No one can be isolationist and have the world currency.Basically at this point, fuck it.
>>532815187Lmao nobody wants peace in Europe. If the USA fucked off out of Europe than actual white people over there could become Nazis again and wipe out the subhuman infestation the US forced onto the continent. US never defended Europe it turned it into a judaized, niggerized melting pot of turd world garbage
>>532813512>Like you're not even following the Schengen laws.Nonsense. That was inconsistent at the time because it used physical passport stamping and we have massive volumes of tourism. We're digital now.Besides, you have a higher ratio of immigrants than us but we're "lax"?
>>532816040>NonsenseCope.Why do Spaniards hate white tourists but love brown welfare immigrants?Do modern day spaniards know their own history, or why do they spit in the face of their ancestors?
>>532816040>Besides, you have a higher ratio of immigrants than us but we're "lax"?Is that why you are giving amnesty to half a million shitskins?To catch up to us?
>>532815070>An effectively US-backed RussiaWhat fucking planet did you come from?
>>532816133You're forming your opinion off some chud article somewhere and ignoring any form of nuance, i thought your people were autistic critical thinkers kek.Most of Spain is racist as a baseline, and don't bother bringing up voting, it doesn't counter that fact. The biggest bodies of left voters are the most racist ones and they're voting for welfare (boomers and gyppos). We don't hate tourists, they leave money behind. Some of the most touristy areas have spergs about brits when they trash something, and that's it.Well and the french, everyone here hates french tourists.
>>532814572>The value to the US of foreigners holdingthats not what I was talking about at all, tard.you seriously dont get it.
>>532816424>everyone here hates french tourists.basedbut arabs and russians are the worst at least in vienna.how are german tourists perceived?
>>532816558German tourists here have their own isle.
>>532816454You mean the US benefits from global stability? So does everyone and that has nothing to do with currency.
>>532816424I know many Spaniards are based.But haven't Spain been under marxist socialist rule since the end of Franco? Being wealthy, owning property and the like is looked down on in Spain?I know Portugal is in a similar situation where they take property from the natives and give it to foreigners.
>>532805367>U.S. says it will leave NATOor Trump is saying US will leave NATO?I do not mind, only better they don't forget their dogs leaving this time
>>532806043rutte and trump have same (((puppetmaster)))
>>532813105No one here likes you or wants your stay-behind semi-occupation. You leaving would be a dream come true, so we can all start removing brown people and fags/trannies.
>>532816593>So does everyoneThe US much more so because of the mentioned dependencies of their currency on trade, debt, and imports. the US as geographical entity has GREAT conditions for being even more autonome and isolationist. the US as a financial player in its current form, not.
>>532805367>Why aren't Europeans terrified even when the U.S. says it will leave NATO?Because that means they will no longer be vassal states in the American Empire.
>>532816624Not really, since Franco's death we've had regular bipartisan slop with the right and left taking their turns religiously. Right now we have the left which won through coalition and it's an anomaly since they've been in power for longer than they usually are, so next elections the jeeted/kiked right will win instead.And our left is vanilla center-left socialists. About the property claims, no fucking clue, being wealthy exposes you to the same type of memeing you'll find in any other country. There's no "eat the rich" mentality here.
>>532805367Lol, after the debacle in middle east I'm confident that they would send best wishes and MREs if Europe called up Article 5 to avoid more humiliation.Europe without ZOG becomes the literal Switzerland of a continent that will finally be allowed to have some self respect and sovereignty. And if we then neuter their NGOs and limit media soft power, we may even be able to develop some nationalism and rollback this subversive gay and commie shit that the state department spreads to make sure that competitors are sabotaged by third columnists.
>>532805367>America>capable of defending anythingLast I looked your ships are 700km away from the Hormussy because you're terrified of flying lawnmowersAlso your biggest carrier group mutinied fucking twice now
>>532805367every single problem that europe is currently facing can be directly traced to US involvement>middle eastern refugees>CIA coup in Ukraine>Soros/Clinton foundation personnel embedded into European bureaucracy
>>532817017>so next elections the jeeted/kiked right will win instead.Hmm, we have such a sionist kosher rightwing coalition in Sweden atm.They will lose in the elections this year.>About the property claimsI have heard that squatters take over property and you can't evict them?They have a similar loophole in the laws in the USA, where it's regarded as a civil matter so the police won't evict the squatters and the property owner are forbidden to do so themselves.
>>532805367Because the US is actually a bunch of pussies. Everybody else has their weapons now, and NATO is big enough without them
>>532817181Yeah, there are squatter situations with people who rent their houses to gyppo families or just have property abandoned for most of the year. But we also have extralegal companies that help taking care of it.The squatter shit is 95% of the times the owner being retarded honestly.
>>532817402Also we have a 2025 law that introduces 48h evictions for squatters if caught early.
>>532817402>But we also have extralegal companies that help taking care of it.I saw some Spanish dudes with black baskers kicking down doors and evicting gyppoid squatters.I bet that isn't very popular with the police or the leftwing government, they have a tendency to go out of their way to protect foreign invaders no matter what they do.Do you think there will be any race riots this year in spain, like we saw last year?If i remember it correctly some Spanish guy got mugged and assaulted which led to clashes in the streets between natives Spaniards and foreign invaders.
>>532817883Regardless of government ideology those the "desokupa" companies are extralegal so can't expect the cops or the government to support it kek. And that shit that happened last year was blown out of proportion in this board, i remember all the threads and hype. It was a skirmish between nafris and mostly national gyppos in a backwater ass town that went nowhere.We almost don't get middle easterns here, vast majority of our immigrants are spics that partially share cultural/religious background, and our muzzies are limp wristed north africans that get buckbroken by our gypsies and effectively "gypsified" within the month of being here. They share the same spaces.There's not nearly enough fuel to fire "race riots".
>>532818309Ive seen that lots of south americans come to haunt you Spaniards and Portugal alike.I visited Spain like 20 years ago and it was alright but arabs tried to sell me drugs and there were commie shitskins on the beach late at night with shirts that read "good night white pride", now i can't even imagine what it's like.In my eyes Spain have a well engrained leftwing sentiment.
>>532816697It's hilarious that you fags try to claim America is the reason European is full of brown tranny fags. All leftards ever tell us here is>we should be more like europe
>>532818615Most south americans i know here would vote for the right if they could vote. It's mostly boomers, gyppos and 18yo faggots and girls voting left. My grandmother for example votes left because they raised her pension in the past. She still needs to say her daily "putos moros" or "putos negros", gyppos are similar.20 years ago i don't remember much commie shit though, maybe you were in some touristy liberal hole or sum. Some things never change.
>>532818932>All leftards ever tell us here isYeah, but your leftards are pants on head delusional nutjobs who think they become women when they dress up in drag and cut off their dingdongs. Why are you listening to your leftards?Europeans in general are way more conservative and racist than Amerilards, your leftiefaggots would hate it here and go home after a couple of weeks.
>>532806946They’re more like Vikings.Anglo sea power and jewish banditry
>>532805367Nothing will happen. Nothing ever happens.
USA>WE'RE GONNA LEAVE, YOU BETTER PREPARE!! Europe >ok, bye US>NO WE'RE SERIOUS, PREPARE TO SPEAK RUSSIAN LOL Europe >ok, door is that way, bye USA >FUCKING IDIOT, I HATE YOU, WE'RE ACTUALLY LIKE FOR REAL ON GOD GONNA LEAVE LIKE RIGHT NOW!!! Europe >shut up and leave then USA >*has a seizure*It's like a really schizo ex-girlfriend..
>>532807063An EU led NATO would fall apart over disputes over financing.
>>532805367Because they are obnoxious narcissists who think they still rule the world because some of them are "privileged whites"?
>>532818941That's odd, because pretty much all South American countries are communist or socialist. The Chileans that fled Pinochet here in Sweden are rabid communists.
>>532805367Terrified of what? The guys who've gone through their entire Soviet Era surplus inventory just to advance 10 kilometers into the Ukrainian bog and take a million casualties?
>>532805367Because they already let hoards of browns in who stab n rape them. They don't know what fear is anymore.
>>532805367NATO would work better without the USA
>>532805367Rubio sponsored the law in last term. Withdrawal needs to have 2/3 support, super majority and that just isn't there. Nit even if all republicans would vote yes.
Bruh, it's probably been said already, but still, mut stupidity is amazing.1. USA can't leave because migatards don't have the votes.2. The mutt bases in Europe don't protect it, they just serve American interests and are used to attack North Africa and the Middle East (which leads to migrant waves in Europe).3. The vast majority of Europeans would welcome the pullout of the US from Europe.
>>532819791Israel wanted to weaken Russia and trap them in a Proxy war so they could do their thing in the ME uninterrupted.
>>532812631>AZJEWSLet's meme it.
>>532819773It's odd indeed, i'd expect all immigrants to want the left. South americans and romanians here don't perceive the right the same way muzzies or niggers do, because it affects them differently.
>>532805367Because that would be beyond retarded.NATO is the reason US companies have access to the european market and no significant european competition, which is an immense benefit and the basis of their hegemony, in spite of what the americans are parroting.
>>532805367Because believe it or not: we don't really care.And why we confidently tell them to get out: why would we stay in an abusive relationship with a retard?I love Americans, but man. Trump is such a moron. We have Trump threatening invading European nations, and we have Putin. There's really no difference at the moment.
>>532805367who should we be scared of?the migrant crisis is a direct consequence of america bombing the middle east for israelrussia is committing sudoku in ukraine and will likely cease to exist in a few yearsexactly who should europe be worried about?if anything the US leaving now means we're not tied to the hip to them whenever they decide to bomb yet another country for their jew overlords in 5-10 years (probably turkey)
>>532805367I think the mentality is that America under Trump wouldn't help in the case of a conflict anyways, so what's the point in keeping them around?
Fellow EU comrades, it seems israel's golem threatening to stop taking EU's nato money and we can channel this funds into our own manufactories. What we gona do about this tragic news? Should we gona make a termin to discuss orange baboon's tantrum?
