>>532807958
>>532807958Does NATO have any fucking ships to even send? if the US can't do it how the hell are the Europeans going to?
>>532807958We want rid of the great Satan
>*cucks out again*
Who cares what this demented grandpa says anymore.
>>532807958Why is he not sending his own ships?
Wasn't the Strait open up until his kike buddies decided to bomb the fuck out of Lebanon? Instead of screeching at NATO allies maybe he should yank the leash on his "Greastest" one and tell them to cut the shit
>>532807958he said he didn't need our small toy ships
>>532808121hmmmHHMMMMMMso is the implication that the US is just dumping cash into a big hole and getting nothing back?HMMMMMMMMMThen maybe we should just stop dumping money into it.
More slop for his slop brained cultists
SEND THE BANANATO SHIPS RIGHT NOW
>>532807958what isn't he at war with
>>532807958>help me, I'm winning !
>>532807958Do it faggot, take your zogbots golems out of Europe and invade Iran.
>>532808565>dumping cash into a big hole and getting nothing back?Yeah it's called your military. It couldn't even reopen the strait.Now you're begging Europe to help
>>532808565NATO is the tool the US uses to keep control over Europe. Exiting NATO is the greatest gift the US can give to Europe. It would mean that Europe will finally be independent. This is why it won't ever happen. drumpf has become political cancer, by next year he will be out of office.
>You need to protect the North Atlantic and yourselves, you're not doing enough>"Alright we're doing that">WHY AREN'T YOU DYING FOR ISRAEL IN THE ARABIAN SEA RIGHT NOW>BTW WE DIDN'T NEED YOU>BTW WE NEED YOU RIGHT NOW>JUST A TEST BTW>WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU
>A DEFENSIVE ALLIANCE MEANS YOU NEED TO SEND TROOPS TO FIGHT MY OFFENSIVE WAR OR ELSE GOYS
>>532808565US spending is 100% goes to the US armed forces and Israel, keeping bases in Europe only serves the US and Israel.
>>532807958not defending Trump's actions in Iran (even though I despise their dictatorship), but isn't the US helping Europeans with Ukraine, even when Ukraine isn't part of NATO? I guess that's why Trump is asking them for help, because he expects some kind of unilateral action, in theory, from outside of the NATO scope, but from the NATO members nonethelessIn other words, Trump is helping you out when he shouldn't, so he expects the same from you
>>532808121We do have ships but you are not seeing them
>>532808565crazy to see this smoothbrain zigger take over and over
>>532808739one big part he's a political cancer is because he's fighting Iran for you, kike. if it weren't for that the strait would still be open
He”s tacoing again
I told you faggots that this is the true war, Israel and Iran are just pawns. Sure as shit, europoor leaders are running to DC to kiss ass because they know their welfare racket is on the ropes. Fuck EuropeFuck CanadaFuck AustraliaNone of you are white now anyway. No fucking loss.
>>532808121Yes, France can, UK can, Japan can, but they won't.
>>532807958He actually thinks NATO is his personal army. Like we're just extra soldiers for Israel. It is kind of funny. Luckily it seems like the US congress is not "two thirds on board" with his retardation. At least his truth posts are funny.
>>532808740Putin is sending ships through Ingerland's channel and you laplanders are doing absolutely nothing. Paper tiger indeed.
>>532808565Israel.
>>532807958Just Go HOME like Russians in 90's !!!No one want you in EUROPE !!!Fucktards!!!
>>532809028And yet you retards end up caving anyway. Back to the principal's office faggot
>>532808565You are spending the money so you can more easily invade Europe, Africa, or the Middle East, you dumb nigger. That's what those bases are for.
>>532809145Your orange father figure will never get the democrat votes to leave NATO. Unfortunately.
>>532809028>He actually thinks NATO is his personal army. Like we're just extra soldiers for Israel.You people were trying to get us to give Ukraine "security guarantees" like they were in NATO and to join some military force to occupy Ukraine, what do you think the US Army is your personal army?
>>532808932you sound like a bipolar ex
>>532808565How stupid are you anon? The US makes a fortune selling military equipment and artillery to European countries.
>>532809145You are delusional Like Your MODERN WOMEN!!!No one want you guys in Europe!!!
>>532809274He's a low IQ trailer trash MIGGER from Kentucky
>>532808876>but isn't the US helping Europeans with Ukraine, even when Ukraine isn't part of NATO?It's mostly Europe paying for American military stuff, and giving it to Ukraine. So American manufacturing is important for Ukraine, but Europe is paying for it. And America is making big money. Maybe that's why Trump doesn't care to stop the war in Ukraine like he promised. There's also the narrative that the entire Ukraine conflict happened because the US helped start the euromaidan coup, but i don't know about that.
>>532807958What a fucking deranged lunatic.
>>532809223Meanwhile, Putin is laughing at your pathetic navy. >HURR DURR WE'RE MONITORINGlol cucks
>>532809223>Your orange father figure will never get the democrat votes to leave NATO. Unfortunately.Trump can leave NATO anytime he wants, he can just say no more NATO organizational funding, and he won't honor Article 5 declarations, then cease all NATO exercises and events. NATO would be effectively dead, I am sure some in Congress would scream it still exists! though.
our stealth sub is already on the scene you just cant see it
>>532809396Meanwhile, Putin lost 30k soldiers in March to Ukraine, which is 100% European funded now.
>>532809340And you're a liberal faggot from London.
>>532807958Notice how he never blames or asks help from the greatest ally on this matter
>>532809145>And yet you retards end up caving anyway.how so?>>532809232>you peopleUkraine may have asked for it. I'm sure it's an idea. I don't remember "we people" demanding it. Or getting mad that you didn't.
>>532809463Which state you from, Bubba?
>>532808876>but isn't the US helping Europeans with UkraineNo.Ever since Trump got in, zero aid for Ukraine.So why is he acting like he's entitled to European help?
>>532807958NATO needs to start protecting the Christians in Beirut, which Israel is Gaza-style warcrime bombing daily now.
>>532808932>le 42% face
>>532809505He has been profiting from the war instead, because Europe has been buying US weapons and sending them to Ukraine.
>>532809500Not this one.
>>532809663Is that your local BLM march?
>>532808565>US is just dumping cash into a big hole and getting nothing back?1) The single time in history NATO article 5 was activated was by the US was when it got attacked on 9/11 happened and every NATO country and some non-members (Romania and Bulgaria) at that time sent thousands of soldiers to die in the middle east.2) NATO is purely defensive and this Iran war was started by the Don Zogbot without even asking the rest of NATO for a second opinion or a backup plan. And now you want a sudden bailout? 3) You are brown and your penis is mutilated.
>>532809013why?
>>532809692No it's your street corner you degenerate.
at the same time he treatens to attack greenland againunhinged banana
>>532809786You worship a jew, you have no foreskin, you're low IQ, and you live a trailer park
>>532809447sure if you believe this stupid Ukraine stories!Last body transfer was 1000 Ukrainians for 40 Russians!!!Wake up You Fool!!!
>>532809706legalitylack of trustmore importantly, cause more dakka aint gonna help
>>532807958sure we can agree to send yank warships there :)
Why didn't he invoke any article if thats the case, its a defensive alliance, not his personal army, fuck you nigger, we're busy funding Ukraine vs Moskul
I think it's getting to the point that foreign politicians are done even just paying lip service to Trump because there is really no point.Trump will praise something one day and then mere hours later call it the worst trash on the Earth.How do you get anything done with a man like that?
>>532807958What happened to the ceasefire?
>>532807958WE DONT NEED TO WAIT FOR PUTIN TO BOMB US, TRUMP AND THE JEWS WILL !!WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE !
>>532809849Good evening Ivan
>>532807958It would be so funny if they stopped funding ukraine over this and russia won instantly
>>532807958>or lose US support for goodIn practice that already happened. If he actually wanted to incentive his allies to co-operate then he would go with the carrot instead of the stick, it sounds like he is only looking for a pretext.
>>532809894Your best ally ripped it apart by attacking civilians in Beirut.
>>532807958If NATO are such important allies to you, perhaps you could've told them about your war BEFORE you started it.
>>532808876Why did you post a picture of a canadian woman lighting a cigarette with a burning photo of an ayatollah?
>>532809892This, he literally told the UK not to bother sending ships like a week ago, plus he is the retard that decided to bomb Iran because the US is just a golem for Israel.
>>532807958wish this cunt would pipe down
>>532808565We pay for our own forces. No one is stopping you taking your troops out of Europe. Why dont you?
>>532809841You take another man's dick in your asshole.
>>532807958nato was literally just usa and its bitches, now nato is just all bitches
>>532808739>i-it's a tool for controlling europe!>no-no you cant leave!!
>>532810124Don't kid yourselves, the USA have always been bitches too, and we all know (((who))) your master is.
>>532809145Americans don't look like that, he should be brown and obese.
>>532808876US is helping Ukraine because it swore it would do that.Then Trump came along, stopped that, and wanted a ton of money, which is when Europe started paying for everything. Europe is buying weapons from the US (with a higher price, Trump things again) to supply Ukraine. Most of the US's "Ukraine money" went to American domestic weapons production anyway.US is still I believe providing satellite info (which costs nothing, they're monitoring the war themselves), and whatever few things were in some old contracts.In the meanwhile he's threatened to leave NATO, threatened to invade Greenland, shit talked his NATO allies and their dead, done everything he can to suck up to russia and make completely unhinged remarks about Zelenskyy.Then he started the war in Iran not only without asking and informing us, but his own congress as well (60 days blahblah yes I know). "Be here RIGHT NOW because I fucked up". Childish. Woman behavior.He should have asked his Board of Peace.
>>532809359>the narrative that the entire Ukraine conflict happened because the US helped start the euromaidan coupConspiracy theory nonsense. Ukraine wanted to shift economically from the Russian zone to the EU. And because of this influence, tankies point at it with baseless assumptions. "SEE, there were western politicians there!! They were the ones who produced the coup!!" That kind of shit. And no, I will not respond to any delusional take from anyone itt, I've already had to do it in /sg/ for years.
>>532808876Ukraine is a US colour revolution project from 2014
>>532810201says the jeet
>>532809028It’s boomers and evangelicals’ mindsetsIt’s fucking bonkers
>>532807958More time wasted with the strait closed, and the physical shortages are about to hit. Nuclear economic tsunami incoming.
>>532809897Shut up ..BOBI..You are not part of EU!!!London cunt!x)
>>532808881Yep. We have loads of subs there 'monitoring the situation'
>>532810107Your President was best buds with a cock sucker called Roy Cohn and stands with LGBT flags, kek.>>532810124You got beat by Iran.
>>532810246>Then he started the war in Iran not only without asking and informing us,You would have leaked it to Iran. Because European NATO are a bunch of freeloading backstabbing snakes and nothing more.
>>532808121Doesn't matter. They have nukes. Let Lil Donnie get tipsy and see what Eurobros will do to him
>>532810004>If NATO are such important allies to you, perhaps you could've told them about your war BEFORE you started it.but we couldnt do that, muh pearl harbor
>>532810385That's great, Ivan. Back to the cube with you.
>>532807958But Trump said just last week he doesn't need NATO since they have nothing to offer and the strait is already open but even if it was closed thr war was already won so no need to send ships?
>>532808121He doesn't mean it. He's just creating a distraction and shifting blame for the problem he created, which is that the strait is closed. The distractions help keep the oil price down, and that is all Trump is thinking about right now. But there's a nuclear economic tsunami heading our way no matter what Trump does. 40 days of shortage are already in the supply chain. That can't be sorted out in a day. It will take 40 days to pass.
>>532807958This is not what NATO is for. Sorry Eurobros... this guys a fucking asshole
>>532810412>>532810385>You would have leaked it to Iran. Because European NATO are a bunch of freeloading backstabbing snakes and nothing more.see ?MUH PEARL HARBOR FALSE FLAG
>>532810385You have room temp IQ
Trump is either just manipulating oil markets, or he is stalling and buying time while forces get in place to do a landing.
>>532809043International waters. We can sail close up to St. Petersburg if we want
>>532810473>40 days of shortage are already in the supply chain. That can't be sorted out in a day. It will take 40 days to pass.funny how no one sees it coming
>>532810473Oil prices are already back up to $100. I don't think anything he says will keep it down now. I suspect he will panic and soon call for another "deal".
>>532809145Well the USA has provided similar amount of funding as EU and lots of military support to Ukraine. Why should we pretend you haven’t?
>>532808876USA STARTED THE UKRAINE SHIT TOORussia wouldn't invade Ukraine if they had a pro-Russian government that wasn't shelling the Donbas
>>532807958anyone who shoots this motherfucker gets free entrance into heaven.
>>532807958I don't even know why Europe wants us, we suck at war now.
>>532807958We want to lose US (((support))) for good.
>>532810611>that wasn't shelling the Donbasfor 8 years
>>532808121why do you want to do another USS Liberty?
>>532810529>while forces get in place to do a landingYeah they'll stealth two million troops in to the other side of the world. Retard.
Trump is singlehandedly showing how corrupt every office of the United States is. How quick it can be the the terrorist country that it is, and how easily those with money suffer no consequences. 7D chess.
>>532810693We also want this, fuck off Europe. Defend yourselves on your own dime fuck you.
>>532810274In retrospect it is pretty funny how the deepening EU-Ukraine ties were the main trigger for the Russian invasion in 2014 and afterwards but their propagandists sold it as a NATO/American issue.Then years later because of that same Russian propaganda had filtered down to American populists in the Trump administration, they thought that they had more leverage on the conflict than what they actually had, which caused them to overplay their hand while trying to force Ukraine to surrender.
>>532808932>none of you are white anyway
If Donald Trump is the whites' big man right now why is he painting his face brown?He seems to be ashamed of being white and thinks that only if you look brown you look good
>>532810764>In retrospect it is pretty funny how the deepening EU-Ukraine ties were the main trigger for the Russian invasion in 2014That is exactly right, it isn't our fight, not our war. The same way Iran isn't your fight Ukraine isn't ours.
>>532810857Is English your third language after Turkish and German?
>>532810764Go back, Mikola, your country needs you.
>>532810748Its you who need to fuck off. Your bases are in Europe. There are no NATO bases in the US. Why arent you leaving?
>>532810990Seems like that is coming, we will both get what we want.
>>532807958>>532808064>>532808121Even though Trump is owned by Interlopers, the Interlopers temporarily serve our interests as well. Europeans need to grow a pair or disappear, straight up.We don't need to disappear with them.Why spend money on NATO if we get nothing out of it?
>>532810748Why do idiots like you never seem to acknowledge Europe buys billions upon billions in weapons from the US?Why is your small brain conditioned to believe it's always free charity?
>>532807958Trump's a retard, but I can actually get behind this. For 80 years, Americans haven't had social programs worth shit because of our obscene military budget. That same military budget that produced pax americana and allowed all American allies to do as they pleased with their money while not caring about defense. You passively benefited tremendously from this shit, eurocucks.>ok but the middle east bullshit isn't our warUkraine isn't ours either. Europe is threatened by it. Sure, it could become a problem for America at a time where everyone alive now will either be too old to care or dead, but we still fucking poured more money into that conflict and provided more gear for it than any European country.Get your asses to the strait and fire a few missiles, or deal with Russia yourselves in the future, welfare state fags.
>>532807958goodbye!
>>532807958>I should insult all my biggest and most powerful allies except Israel>This will get them to work for Israel.
>>532808121Sending ships to do what? Trump doesn't appreciate we're on the cusp of a revolution in warfare. We're like fully armored knights in the year of the arqubus. Drones are completely changing the game, and, to an extent, cheap missiles. Big warships are vulnerable to cheap drones and missiles and it's not even clear that a modern navy can secure a coastline anymore, with naval power alone.
>>532811024All you have to do is leave, not just threaten it
>>532808637>>532808740kekkkkanan
>>532807958MAGA is dead, MIGA is shit, like 10% of the people are real MIGA. Talmud Trump is lost to the jews.The jews must be destroyed, utterly and to the last, or the USA dies.
>>532811079think about how much more money you can give Israel now
>exposes military as expensive paper tiger>threatens to said paper tiger from NATODon't threaten me with a good time mutts
>>532810611>that wasn't shelling...the russian troops in Donbas. Why were there russian troops in Donbas?I don't think even Kremlin have been trying to sell this bullshit story for years now. You sure ate it up, jeet shills love bull shit.
>>532811067I wonder if Trump realizes that if NATO is disbanded then most countries will probably start looking at manufacturing their own munitions and arms which would be a major blow because America is home to many arm manufacturers who sell to many countries.
>>532811079Youve had plenty of social and healthcare, but for mexicans and nogs. Its your own leaders whove fucked you
>>532811079>or deal with Russia yourselves in the future, welfare state fags.BE GLAD TO NOW FUCK OFF BACK TO YOUR NIGGER INFESTED SHITHOLE
>>532811067European nations have huge lavish social states including completely free health care and tiny militaries a luxury our tax dollars affords them because they have the NATO security guarantee and we are fucking sick of it, it is going to end this is bullshit, we are not your slaves.
>>532811079You're not getting increased social spending if you theoretically left NATO, kek. You're getting more money sent to Israel.
>>532811191I hear Israels free health service is one of the best. Thanks America!
>>532811241>if NATO is disbanded then most countries will probably start looking at manufacturing their own munitions and armsold nafo like france germany never stopped their own programsnew nafo had to close arms industriesnafo has been nothing but trouble
>>532807958the zog retard wants this so his masters can attack turkey next
>>532809359Expect your wrong >Direct Aid to Ukraine: Of that total, about $120–$127 billion is estimated to have been directly allocated to Ukraine for security, economic, and humanitarian assistance.Military Aid: Over $67–$75 billion has been specifically dedicated to weapons, equipment, and training.Economic/Humanitarian Aid: Roughly $49 billion has been provided in direct budget support to help the Ukrainian government operate (paying salaries for nurses, teachers, etc.), with additional billions for humanitarian aid.
>>532807958Ukraine is actually the only country in Europe helping right now. They are giving military advisors on how to deal with drones and getting massive deals with the Gulf states to supply anti-drone tech. They are also the only ones with an excuse to not get involved, as they are pretty strapped down by their own war. So we will probably support them no matter what happens with NATO.
>>532811410since 2022a trillion over 40 years
>>532811291Why does an American retard like you care about Europe's social services? What does that have to do with Europe not wanting to help Trump and Israel's war?I'll ask again idiot: why do you idiots never seem to be aware of European countries giving the US billions of dollars in exchange for defense assets?The US hasn't been functioning as an "umbrella" since Trump got into power. He can't leave NATO because congress will never allow it, but he can choose not to act on article 5, and everyone knew from the beginning he wouldn't do this. Also providing no help supporting Europe's defence, and somehow expects Europe to be there for him.Alas, you're a complete idiot. A standard Trump-loving zealot.
>>532808565please stop posting anon you're making americans look retarded
>>532811291>were not your slaves. We know. Youre Israel's slaves lol
>>532810611>>532811240Kek these brown thirdies think shelling seperatists is a war crime.
>>532811079How do idiots like you still not realize Trump hasn't given any aid to Ukraine since he became president?
>>532811410>>Direct Aid to Ukraine: Of that total, about $120–$127 billion is estimated to have been directly allocated to Ukraine for security, economic, and humanitarian assistance.Military Aid: Over $67–$75 billion has been specifically dedicated to weapons, equipment, and training.Economic/Humanitarian Aid: Roughly $49 billion has been provided in direct budget support to help the Ukrainian government operate (paying salaries for nurses, teachers, etc.), with additional billions for humanitarian aid.Unbelievable isn't it? It is incredible how much money Zelensky and his Jewish mafia have stolen in the past few years, can't wait to see his gigantic mansion in Tel Aviv.
>>532807958Trump's plan to get the strait open is so far behind that he doesn't have any plan at all to get it open. He doesn't even know who is going to be involved. Once that's figured out, it will still take months to get anything done. What an absolute colossal retard. He hasn't even taken the first step yet.
>>532811528>never seem to be aware of European countries giving the US billions of dollars in exchange for defense assets?Oh they buy some stuff from us ok cool thanks, it is a transaction you imbecile they get a product and compensate us for it.
>>532811410what point are you arguing against?
>>532807958>Trump begs Europe to join war>Europe says No as usual>USA withdraws from NATO>Europe is finally free
>>532811528Europoors could be blatantly attacked by Russia and they would do everything in their power not to go to war. Even if Article 5 was invoked. The most they would do is pen and strongly worded letter and then cry at the UN about "muh international laws and norms".
>>532811291>European nations have huge lavish social states including completely free health care and tiny militaries a luxury our tax dollarsNope. Europe has health care because it's not as jewed as the US is... yet. Furthermore, the US pays nothing, it's the EU that pays the US hundreds of billions for weapons and to host US bases that are all to the benefit of the US and practically serve no benefit for the EU. Instead of developing its own arms industry, the EU just gets swindled by the US. And btw, you don't pay for these bases, the host countries do.The notion that US finances the EU is one of the biggest crock of shit to come out of American politics in these past few decades. And this is why Trump will never leave NATO and that faggot keeps using Ramstein to conduct his war in Iran, without which he would have never in a million years been able to even touch Iran (which would actually be for the benefit of Americans too but I digress).
>>532811720Yes idiot, it's a transaction, not free charity like you've been trying to peddle in this thread. This is exactly why you're a complete and utter idiot, you can't get your facts straight and believe whatever your moron president tells you.
>>532811724Did you not read what I replied to?
>>532808299Send the fucking Czech armada NOW or get tariffed at 200%!
>>532808121No. We spent all our money paying for the refugees that you keep forcing into Europe.I mean you didn't really think this through did you. Our populations have been replaced and now you're surprised they don't want to help. So much for that legendary Jewish IQ
>>532811594If they stole all the money and spent it on bullshit then why is the country still standing?
>>532807958I don't think the issue of needing to stay outside the range of Iran's missiles is going to be solved by more boats from more countries, Donald.
>>532811727>Europoors could be blatantly attacked by RussiaWhy do Amerigolems still think this Cold War 'Russian bogeyman' is a threat to Europe?
>>532811800>without which he would have never in a million years been able to even touch Iran (which would actually be for the benefit of Americans too but I digress).Geopolitics isn't your strong suit.
>>532811727>Europoors could be blatantly attacked by RussiaIt's hilarious to me that idiots like you think that Russia is some all-powerful military entity that could conquer Europe easily.Russia is absolutely not in any position to fight a war against Europe now.
>>532811820Why didn't your countries just shut the borders and deport them?
>>532811816yes, i just don't want to make any assumptions.
>>532807958EU vs US and Israel rogue states was bound to happen at some stage US think they be all that and a bag of potatoe chips but you're all locked in on my team vs your team and well one team is muh gender dyed haired freaks and the other team is all I really wanna shoot that other team so good luck have fun everyone
>>532811856The European governments made it such a big deal When Russia attacked Ukraine is russia No longer a threat to you guys now that the us is big Poopoohead?
>>532811856Hollywood brain rot. That and circumcision. It's very clear that some nerve endings must cause catastrophic brain cell death upon cutting during circumcision. It's the only reason they can all be so fucking backward
>>532811828>If they stole all the money and spent it on bullshit then why is the country still standing?Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe and one of the most corrupt countries in the world, and we have been pouring tens of (hundreds?) of billions into its coffers for years. Greatest heist of all time. Zelensky's parents live in a huge mansion in Israel.
>>532808121kys filthy kike, they are not dying for israel
>>532811911>Russia is absolutely not in any position to fight a war against Europe now.Cool then they don't need NATO
>>532811944The fact he stated we haven't payed for anything which is false we have given almost 500b in cash and equipment and training to ukraine since they've been invaded
>>532807958I can unplug the starait and create Tacosrael in the same day.It's up to Donald to make the call.
>>532807958NATO is a defensive alliance. Attacking Iran was a war of choice.Is he stupid?
>>532811882Nigga, are you stupid? You don't even know how your own military operates. Ramstein is the central hub of Middle East operations.
Even if Trump leaves nato the next president will join again. I also doubt the Jews will let him leave, they profit from the MIC
>>532811820>legendary Jewish IQThe most supreme Jews live in New York City, in Manhattan and similar areas, and run the world from there. Israel is a shithole, if he lives in Israel, it means that his IQ is not eligible for NYC to rule over western goyim.
>>532811856Idk maybe because 4 years ago they invaded a European country in an on going war? It's like saying the rapist isn't a threat because he hasn't tried to rape you personally yet.
>>532807958Bye nigga. We aint dying for pissrael.
>>532807958If you were just browsing places like /ptg/ or /k/, you would think that the US was winning and Iran was begging for a ceasefire.
>>532812082Ukraine is not in nato and you guys bitched at us to help them so what's the difference?
>>532811856>>532812026Have you pinhead pikey retards forgotten how your government and media whinged endlessly about Russia for years? Did the news cycle over there get an update like a week ago? Holy shit.
Just fucking leave already.
>>532811922Traitor politicians of course.
>>532808890No shit, Trump is politically retarded. He should’ve focused on illegals and staying out of foreign wars.
>>532812121Will you die for Ukraine?
>>532812064Not really, but America will come back anyway once your idiot president is gone.
>>532808676Now he has another war he can stop. 10 wars stopped soon!
>>532812200We probably won't have to since you are already doing it for us.
>>532812168Pikeys are white though. Unlike you
>>532807958Thought he didn't need us?
this guy was tf to just fuck uncle Sam's post-cold war empire.the greatest empire of the world squandered because a bunch of whining weak fucking kikes threw a temper tantrum
>>532808121We're about to legalize the persecution of your kind again, try to keep up, rat boy.
>>532812164Hey idiot, you're not helping them now. Trump hasn't given them any aid since becoming president.You golem aren't owed anything. Fight your own wars. We're cheering for as many of you zogbots to die as possible.
>>532808121they do have ships but not for (You) moshealso what the fuck do you mean "US can't do it"? they 100% can but obviously there's 0 reason to mobilize that amount of extra resources for a war that doesn't benefit the US in any way. is the 4 fucking carrier battlegroups they already deployed not enough for you, you greedy kike?
>>532812120Ukraine isn't really Europe.And it was American lead NATO expansionism that caused it anyway . . .I don't care about Ukraine, most are Russians anyway.
>>532812164Biden admin was the big force behind defending Ukraine. He even blew up Nordstream for it
>>532812148Bots are more obviously evident this year than ever before. I have yet to meet a real person who is happy this shit is going on. Also, /k/ has been unusable for years. I have to question who goes there aside from feds and circlejerking nafotrannies.
>>532810144Most EU citizens want the US gone. It's the puppet politicians that depend on US presence and posturing against Russia that want the US to stay.
>>532812200I will gladly give aid Ukraines war efforts, you come into Finland however and i will put you into the meatgrinder in which you belong. Ukraine is based for killing so many Russians, we will get to kill a bunch of less when you come so we'll get back to business as usual much faster. KILL ALL RUSSIANS
>>532811911If Russia conquers Ukraine they get population, land, and resource boosts. Putin won't be there forever. All it will take is a new leader who is competent to slowly pick Europe apart.
>>532812239The bitter cope of a subman ethnic mistake at the bottom of his society.
>>532812238We are dying for Ukraine and Ukrainian people against Kiev's regime, yes. But Zelensky is Jewish and openly supports the US special military operation in Iran. How do you cope with this contradiction?
>>532810144We want you gone now we know youre Israels bitch
>>532812276>We're cheering for as many of you zogbots to die as possible.I hope Russian troops skull fuck all of you. Sincerely
>>532807958We'll do it but only if he bends the knee.
>>532812315>I have yet to meet a real person who is happy this shit is going onThis just tells me you don't interact with evangelicals.Evangelicals are the ones throwing 100% unconditional support behind Trump, and believe he's the second coming of jesus after "god protected him from the bullet"
>>532812288No one cares about you. You're just a tiny schizo minority in Britain who's viewed as despicable by all your peers
>>532812070He didn't say hasn't or haven't.It is correct to say the usa isn't, currently..
>>532808121Send yours then, what are you waiting for??I can help with the effory, picrel is my contribution to your war effort.
>>532812407>we are dyingGlad to hear it. Please die some more.
>>532812039Oh I never said there wasn't corruption. But it also doesn't make sense. If all the money is embezzled, then how are they still fighting?
>>532807958Nothing happens....USA have no allies anymore in NATO....you can freely go out muricans...no one want make any deals with you.
>>532812276We spent almost 500b on Ukraine but your right We haven't given them anything in the last few months (even though we spent the last 3 years helping)
>>532812386My god you're an even bigger idiot than I thought. You're actually stupid enough to believe they can "conquer" ukraine like winning a video game, blissfully unaware of the complexities and difficulties involved with such a scenario playing out.Btw, did you know they've been losing a lot of land in Ukraine lately? All without any US aid too. Check your facts before posting, moron.
>>532807958isnt it supposed to be a defense treaty? Why would join in on an illegal war started without provocation?
>>532812492bye
>>532809819kek
>>532812413Hope all you like, but you're the one fighting a war for the jews, not me.Know your place, golem. You deserve to die and so do your zogbot soldiers :)
this is long term plan: >usa wants nato to help in their retarded war they started (even though its supposed to be purely defensive alliance) and its over israel which is not part of nato>nato countries refuse>usa withdraws from nato>usa takes away all the shit they had in turkey>usa can now attack turkey without worrying about their soldiers turkey is the endgame here
We really need the entire WH cabinet to leave. Nobody likes them, even their own party.
>>532807958But i thought the war was over and won already? Why need NATO warships?
>>532812380So, you don't want to die neither for your actual NATO ally nor for your parasitic "ally". How is this America's fault? It looks like it is you who embarrasses the whole NATO with all talk and no action like the cowards you are.
>>532812407You should stop worrying about Iran and the US and focus on trying to get rid of your Soviet-revanchist leadership who are needlessly killing your people in a war that doesn't actually benefit them in any way.
>>532812554>australian>not a shitpost>but a BASEDpostBased Kangaroo
>>532809013>UK canAre you sure about that? The UK fleet is the smallest it's been since 1600. Half of it are rusted wrecks forever in drydock would take years to get seaworthy. They have only 3 (three) nuclear submarines that are so old and require so much maintenance that they are probably lying about 1 of them always being at sea. NATO is fucking shit. Not that I expect them to sink themselves for Donny Dipshit
>>532811240>>532811553There wouldn't have been separatists if the CIA didn't overthrow the government of Ukraine, a fake country which are themselves separatists from Russia
Citizens need answers for the Epstein files and the recent war crimes since October.
>>532812503Why is a Trumptard idiot like you trying to demand credit for the work of a previous administration?Trump came in, cancelled all support, threatened to illegally annex Greenland, and still believes he's entitled to NATO allies help in fighting an offense middle eastern war alongside israel.It's actually mad you're stupid enough to believe he's being reasonable.
>>532807958We will send our BMP it's not exactly a ship but it can float in water it will be there in 3 years.
>>532812588Ukraine is not in NATO. We do support Ukraine's war efforts. I hope you enjoy your meatgrinder. :^)
>>532812554How many American troops have died fighting Iran so far? 15? How many Europeans have died fighting Russia? :)
>>532812560If muslims can resist for 10 years Israel is done for. Boomers will be dead and no one will ever send money to Israel again.
>>532807958How TF has no one removed this dude from office? I say this as a guy who voted for him and supported him for the first month or so, and a former registered Democrat. He's killing the GOP
>>532812612B-but that isn't a part of the state propaganda, so no can do.
>>532810903it's europe's war though, and america wants to own europe. from the standpoint of the us military empire, our greatest rival is ironically still germany. germany basically leads the eu and without america or britain they become responsible for europe's defense. german-led europe will become a superpower in our lifetimes. also ironically, japan is set to become the new hollywood. it's all falling apart for burgerland kek.
>>532812622>I'm A mutt and I know everything about Britains Navy You know nothing kid.
>>532807958NATO is a defensive alliance, it has no obligations to help with wars of agression, and on top of that, Israel isn't even in NATO, and this war exists solely for the sake of jews.
>>532812407Vlad is also jewish and he is owned by chabad lubavitch, dumbass. Why isn't he helping Iran right now? I thought you were allies.
>>532807958Can this crazy kike lover just fucking die already?
>>532812716So you're also stupid enough to blindly believe what the administration is reporting to you?
>>532812612Why should me and my fellow Trump supporters from the USA take advice from someone like you? Get into a special military operation and start your own to have any credibility. Words are cheap, everyone can post any shit he likes here.
>>532812716Yes, but Ukraine is a defensive war and Iran is an offensive war. Understand the difference.
>>532811066>Why spend money on NATO if we get nothing out of it?Read up on the single time Article 5 was ever activated and who asked for it.
>>532808876A friendly reminder USA promised Ukraine security in exchange for nuclear demolition. That's why Biden jumped in so fast, because he had to. Not like anyone expected anything else, but Trump quickly undermined USA's reliability (again). Now watch a bunch of Ivans under american flag telling me it was totally different while bringing up zero proof.
>>532812407>We are dyingThis is a good thing.The more russians that die, the better.
>>532812448>It's mostly Europe paying for American military stuff, and giving it to Ukraine. So American manufacturing is important for Ukraine, but Europe is paying for itWord for word from his post which is a lie as I postedSo are you brown or just retarded?
>>532812467Not every cent is embezzled.
>>532812810Is this your excuse to show the world that you can't into a special military operation even with full US support?
>>532812854That would be America for Afghanistan after 9-11
>>532808121Yes, but they are not meant to defend Israel. Next year there is the elections. It would be very unpopular for the government to send them. Also you are threatening our soldiers in lebanon
>>532812544cool when are you gonna actually leave?
>>532812735>He's killing the GOPForget about parties, he is plummeting your global standing in general. And the reason why he is still around is that your political system and culture have degraded severely during the recent decade(s).
>>532811423Feel free to cancel nato then, as long as ukraine wins that war it's not necessary for europe anyway. The only threat here is ziggers.
>>532812933>that you can't into a special military operationYou mean like your country's special military operation? That's lasted 4 years and counting with no meaningful gains?Why would anyone take advice from an idiot like you? You're the epitome of human garbage. The more russians that die, the better. You're worthless cockroaches that serve your dictator.
>>532812852>Yes, but Ukraine is a defensive war and Iran is an offensive war. Understand the difference.EU/UK overthrew the democratically elected President of Ukraine in 2014, then the coup EU coup government began shelling Russian speaking Ukrainians in the East, so this is a defensive war as well.
>>532807958Good, mutts should fuck off.
>>532812895Thank you for sharing your feelings for Russians but you probably should go back to your kangaroos. This American and European business.
>>532813074Pffffhahahahahahaha now you're peddling the old rt propaganda. You really think you're going to fool anyone, Igor?What a stupid idiot.
>>532808876NoAmerica isnt doing this FOR the EUthey are doing it cause it weakens Russia and gives the EU no hope of good ties with them.Ukraine is a geopolitical decision because it benefits the USIran does not benefit the US, thus he is asking for Aid and EU leaders are somewhat smart enough to realise that fucking with Iran will only ruin everything they have
>>532812933What are you even talking about, you simpleton... I kinda feel sorry for you. I'm saying YOU, the Ukrainians and the mutts are dying for the kikes right now, and we, the Europeans, are NOT. You get it now?
>>532813096No, I'm happy to remind you of the worthless creatures you are.The more russians that die, the better. Human garbage.
>>53281262210, all nuclear powered 4 icbm capable 1993 -19996 hunters 2010 -2026 tbf it's probably the best kept part of the military
>>532807958Trump could fix all of this by putting pressure on Israel to see to it that they follow through on the ceasefire. This would in turn lead to Iran opening the strait of Hormuz. Instead he’s demanding other countries not at all involved in the conflict to get involved and clear it for him. Trump has to be one of the worst American presidents. No leadership, no basic knowledge of the world or history, and too full of himself.
>>532813063You don't have a special military operation. Why would someone like me bother to give you any advice, I'm not an expert in kangaroos.
NATO is already suffering because of Trump's stupid fuckup. Becoming a part of Trump's stupid fuckup just means more suffering on top of that. Trump is looking for a scapegoat and an easy way out of this without losing face. Don't give it to him. He doesn't deserve it. He has not shown respect to any nation except Russia and DPRNK.
>>532813096>Thank you for sharing your feelings for Russians but you probably should go back to your kangaroos. This American and European business.kek
>>532813145>the old rt propagandaThat's a slightly modified new variation, in the past it was the US and NATO where at fault. Now that Russia no longer needs to be vary of the US and NATO gets bad pr, the instigating party has become those who still support Ukraine i.e EU and UK.
>>532813273>NATO whereNATO *who* were
>>532813207>EU leaders are somewhat smart enough to realise that fucking with Iran will only ruin everything they haveonly because the eu has been inviting in tons of muslims. they don't want their muslims to vote against them and maybe rent some trucks of peace. this shows how cucked everyone is, the middle east now controls the entire world.
>>532813074Lies. It was the US state department, lead by Victoria Nuland handing out cookies in Maidan Square, who did the Ukrainian colour revolution.
>>532812900nothing in that sentence denies the usa once paid somethingthat sentence is 100% true today
>>532813237lol careful they are great fighters
>>532813223Don't argue with them.For some reason many mutts have been spouting the idea that we only have 1 sub?Lots of them have said it, no idea where that's coming from.
>>532813412I like how after exposing yourself as an idiot, you've fallen back to piggybacking off others.You're hopeless, retard haha
>>532809013>UK canNo it can't. UK's fleet is fubared just like their economy.
>>532813322>only because the eu has been inviting in tons of muslimsnot only.By ruining ties with russia through the ukraine war and now cutting oil supply from the middle east our economy would go to shit very fast. Europe is dependant on that oil unlike you, which is why everyone refuses to go to war with iran.>they don't want their muslims to vote against them and maybe rent some trucks of peacealso that but absurdly enough americans seem to have realised that since you are now funding rightwing parties in europe to break the muslimloving Eu apart. its a cucked world indeed
>>532810724The americans can beat Iran with 5000 special forces
>>532813489>Lots of them have said it, no idea where that's coming from.Various bits of the usual false narrative peddled from the maga fraternity and maga media.Trump's base unconditionally believes anything these sources of information report. If Trump says NATO is free charity, you can bet there will be a large group of people believing it and trying to peddle it as the truth.
>>532808121Honestly not really. The UK had more blue water ships on 1500.
>>532807958He says the ultimate end of a thing every day.
>>532813611UnlikelyAfghanistan proved their special forces are incompetentIn joint operations the British SAS refused to work with them on a number of occasions following an incident near the Pakistan border . . . .when a SEAL Team went to pieces and "screamed like babies"
>>532813489>Lots of them have said it, no idea where that's coming from.There's a giant market now for UK HAS FALLEN slop content to distract Americans from the fact their country is 56% white
>>532808565Fucking retard. NATO is the US instrument of military occupation of its vasal states. Oh no don't leave us!
>>532811066why should NATO, a defense alliance, feel obligated to assist another country's war of aggression? Please explain that to me first. If Fat Orange simply hadn't bombed Iran, none of this wouldn't happen. But Americans are incapable of taking responsibility so it's always someone else's fault.
>>532814113*none of this would've happenedfuck me
>>532813666Tbf, it's pretty successful for some reason. Even lefties think USA pays at least half of NATO directly. They're baffled when you tell them it's 16%.
>>532813666It seems to be that way.>>532813921>their country is 56% whiteIt's worse than that.They don't have catagories for Arabs or North Africans, they are classified as 'white' and many mutts self-classify themselves as 'White'.
>>532813764It'll be Cuba tomorrow then he'll kvetch about Japan or something, then back to Iran and so on...
>>532807958"kill yourself" or "US go home".it's really going to be a very hard choice there
>>532807958He's a retard of the first order for thinking the problem has anything to do with ships.
>>532808121>Does NATO have any fucking ships to even send? if the US can't do it how the hell are the Europeans going to?It's because shitrael wants to go after turkey next. That will be easier if the US isn't part of nato.
>>532813063Didn't you lose a war to birds or something and have to resort to nukes for revenge?
>>532808676Time for mass shootings.
>>532808565>so is the implication that the US is just dumping cash into a big hole and getting nothing back?hmmmmmIsrael
>>532808121BEG HARDERRRRRR
>>532807958>AAAAAAAAAAAA HELP WE'RE WINNINGWhy are miggers like this?
>>532808121fight your own fucking war you evil kike
>>532808299Half of America. They'll die for this clown, because they're illiterate retards.
>>532812726after boomers indians take over - and indians worship jews even more than boomers since boomers mostly feel bad for them wheras indians think of jews as actual Gods
>>532808932Yeah surely they're on their knees begging forgiveness from the guys currently losing a war against a third world country in the middle east. The begging for help/delusional gloating meme has never been more true
>>532811291>European nations have huge lavish social states including completely free health careWe FUCKING wish the health care was free lmao
>>532816362Israel has free healthcare . . .. guess who pays for it?
>>532807958the president doesnt have unilateral authority to pull support from nato, nor does he have big enough majority of republican retards in congress willing to commit to his senile wishy washy empty threats . when he already blew his load on bad calls on doge, tariffs, greenland and iran. and the midterms are this year and they barely keeping seats as is. Nato invaded Iraq and afghanistan and Libya with competent people in his seat. everyone can see that nato isnt helping because hes a fucking retardimagine your own party talking about invoking the 25th ammendment cuz you cant shut the fuck up saying stupid shit day after day.
why should we send ships if there is peace?
>>532816600We have given Ukraine 250 billion dollars. Egypt alone gets 100 billion dollars. Israel is third with roughly that same amount in your graph. I don't know what kind of fucking aid they're tracking.
>>532808121FUCKING JEWS
>>532811423But your beloved president insisted they're not helping, and that the US doesn't need their interceptors at all.