Interested to see what people on this board think about Capitalism and Socialism. Which is the way forward? Which is the superior system? Why is it the better system? How would your preferred system work best for your Nation or the World? What system do you think will be brought about in the future — regardless of your preference?To be honest when it comes to economic politics I think it isn’t really discussed enough, people sort of just declare their allegiance to one system or another and leave it at that, but I wanted to open up the floor to hear what people on this board think.
>>532810422Socialism is what Hitler fought for, Capitalism is what Truman and Churchill fought for, Communism is what the USSR fought for3 distinct models.
>>532810509How would you define those three systems? What’s the difference? In particular between Hitler socialism and modern day socialists?
If the masses had power they’d build socialism. it’s inevitable within the next couple centuries or so.the problem with free market capitalist ideas is that they have to be forced otherwise the masses will simply build socialism.
>>532810422The definition of both are all whataboutism and outdated. The economy is too complex to be polarised.
>>532810575Socialism is where the government does something. Communism is an ideology. Capitalism is what ever the person you're talking to defines it.
>>532810761Would it not be fair to say that socialist policies also have to be forced because you would need a system of redistribution to take and manage peoples resources though? Where as with free market Capitalist it’s more to do with what people are willing to pay for those resources of their own free will?
>>532810972democratic power
>>532810422There is no single Socialist Country in the world And Capitalism as such ended circa Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999Since it is Anarcho-Corporatism!!!AKA Modern Feudalism!!!Next question?
high net worths have significant power and leverage over the masses
>>532810422It's not discussed because we settle that question when all the countries that adopted socialism, like China, Russia, Vietnam and all of Eastern Europe, dropped socialism, because it sucked hard, and adopted capitalism.Insisting on the issue, like that never happened, is only comparable to the flat earth people insisting on their issue.The fact that there are so many people like you doing so these days is proof that social media was a mistake that needs to be fixed immediately.
>>532810509>Socialism is what Hitler fought forThe average migger everybodyCome one come all and gander at the freakshow
>>532810422This is an outdated topic.
>>532811376He must have forgotten the night of the long knives where Hitler purged most of SA socialist leaders.
>>532811388How is this outdated? People argue about this constantly.
>>532811030>Since it is Anarcho-Corporatism!!!>AKA Modern Feudalism!!!ackshully, it's "crony capitalizom", ie state "capitalizom", ie socialism in its neotrotskyist incarnationand unsurprisingly, it's utter fucking shit
>>532811516>People argue about this constantly.What kind of people?
>>532811663Capitalists and socialists usually
>>532811753They're just people pushing a narrative to make a profit. Their fan base become tribal so it becomes more about emotions and owning the other side than it is about economics. We need intellectuals. Not hustlers in second hand ideas
>>532810422>Five year plans and New Deals, >wrapped in golden chains
We will all be Hunter Gatherers soon, the first and best political system.
>>532812173So people should ditch the labels and just do what’s best. If it leans capitalist or socialist then so be it sort of approach?
>>532810422I’m against whatever the majority of Jews want. Thats my politics.
>>532812392>Have to follow the herds>Have to do what tribe leader says>women and their mystic psychobabble are louder than ever>get a toothache>no dentists>die of an abscess >thank you based pagan godsWhew lad
UP YOURS, Woke Moralists. We'll see who cancels who!
>>532812442Yes. The label are only used to divide people so they can profit. You literally have people who think political ideologies are identities. The labels will always be used to go against the people's interest. "I'm a capitalist" "I'm a communist" Nah you're just an individual with low self esteem. You have no capital. You have no community.
>>532810422>Interested to see what people on this board think about Capitalism and Socialism. Which is the way forward?I have to admit I'm a little disappointed to see an Irish anon not familiar with Distributism.
Capitalism is the best. People respond to profit incentives. But NOT "free market" capitalism. Capitalism on a very tight leash.It is the duty of the government to ensure that immoral actions are never profitable. Any capitalist society that fails to do this will inevitably funnel all its wealth and power into the hands of the most wicked, who will then use it to abuse everyone.
>>532813569We had some distributism in the past but being a Democratic Republic it lead to tge nations destruction. Now were just an economic zone for international finance.
>>532810422>Which is the way forward?National Socialism
>>532810422Whatever Chins does is the right model
>>532813857>We had some distributismNot just some distributist policies, arguably the finest distributist policies ever put to practice and the reason Irish own at least part of their isle.
>>532811362Western Europe is more socialist than SSSR ever was, Aus and Can prob too
>>532814225Our entire economy isn't owned by the government. I have my own business.
>>532813242Christopher BitchensNo bad teeth in hunter gatherers
>>532813857>Now were just an economic zone for international finance.See the reaction to the fuel protests around the country right now. It's exactly what you'd expect from a state that is devoted to maximizing shareholder profits dealing with a population that still has the idea that democracy (and even capitalism) is still functioning.
>>532814326Socialism =/= communism
>>532814326Modern computers and internet means that our economies are more tightly managed than that of the Soviets.
>>532810761>2 more 100 years
>>532814364But the majority of taxes on fuel goes on the welfare state?
>>532810422pretty simple desu
>>532810422>not mentioning the third positionKYS
>>532814471But it's not centrally planned. Or even similar to China's.
>>532810422People should understand that nothing in law actually makes America capitalist. It’s foundation is nothing more than PR
>>532815299yes, when government tries to force capitalism it stops being capitalism
>>532814652That's how modern international capitalism does it. Those welfare recipients are just spending their money on rent and groceries and digital subscriptions, it's money for landlords and other capitalists, many overseas. >>532815115I believe it is centrally planned, they just prefer to use incentives and regulations rather than something more blatant.
>>532815299Depends on what you mean by capitalism. You have free trade between the states, freedom of religion, guarantee of property and a civil war over tariffs
Zizek is correct that capitalist ideology makes propaganda 1000x more effective
>>532810575The ironic thing is that theres actual lot very little different between Hitler's Socialism and modern socialism. Medicine was far far more primitive at Hitlers time and wasnt a focus then, it is now. Hitler was focused on mainly food and housing. He gave FREE houses to those who produced at least 4 children. This program never ended and he was giving them out until the very end.
>>532811376I fucking despise Miga. National Socialism is Socialism. There are more than 2 models.
>>532811494No, I fully studied it. Hitler hated communism, he wanted socialism, not communism, he expelled communists.
>>532816029I don't give a fuck what you and every other leftist bastard in the West who worships Communist China has to say. Like most Westerners, you're nothing more than a dirty, self-hating, nigger-loving anti-white leftist faggot who does nothing when young girls are groomed and children are surrounded by packs of blacks and browns and attacked. Islam is your moral compass. Go fuck yourself asshole, then go fuck yourself more, you vile kike piece of shit.
>>532810422Economic-based rhetoric is outdated because it doesn’t solve the cultural, racial, and demographic crisis we have going on in every single western country but instead skirts around the topic and pretends that those aspects of society are fine when they aren’t. It doesn’t matter how many taxes you want to lower or raise when your country is full of niggers who can’t abide by standards of decency, and it doesn’t where you want government funds to be distributed when your government is overwhelmingly occupied by kikes and scum blackmailed by kikes. The entire country needs to redefined from the ground up, and then we can decide lesser concerns like tax policy and whether state-run or private companies are better.
>>532819607>full of niggers who can’t abide by standards of decencyBut I know dozens of them that absolutely can and do. I cant name any I know of that dont. Yes, I know this is a personal experience, but the statistics, which DO show a higher rate of crime from them, isnt so high that it makes me think they cant do it.
>>532819844Move to a ghetto then and your mind will change real fast.
>>532818159>he wanted socialismWhy did he replace the SA who were socialists for the SS who were private?
>>532810509>Socialism is what Hitler fought for, Capitalism is what Truman and Churchill fought for, Communism is what the USSR fought for >>3 distinct models.Couldn't we just pick the best of each and have some grey area?
>>532810422CAPITALISM IS THE BEST
>>532810422COMMUNISM IS THE WORST
>>532810422FASCISM IS THE WAY
I don't expect capitalism to work for anyone but a handful of conspirators
