Trump has issued an ultimatum to Europe!!!
I'd laugh if Britain/UK/Germany group up and block their strait or the English channel (American channel soon?) from american usage.
Fake and gay
não é problema meu
>>532812410When has this idiot ever carried through on any of his ultimatums?He should get it over with and leave NATO.
>>532812410at least he's giving you all ten business days before he's told he can't do that
>>532812410trump wants war with turkey next for greater Israel
>>532812410its a defensive alliance though, they shouldn't feel the need to to anything in this case.And I say this as a euro-hater
>>532812410Finally.They've don't FUCKING NOTHING but take out money since inception.
48 hours
>>532812410>free ridethe hecking "free ride" is literally what he is already paying for without Nato (his own army)
>>532812410Fake. KYS.https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump
>>532812410Fucking leave already, we know zognald was ordered to leave nato by his foreskin muncher handlers so they could attack Turkey once pissrael requests a piece of it.
>>532812410again: and?
>>532812410DO IT FAGGOT
I find it funny how he writes his name at the end of every ramble.
still no kek, ooga booga
>>532812410Less talk, more action, and kindly fuck off.>maga tweet by an old president with dementiaOh wait.
>>532812410Donny Fuck off from Europe already!!!You guys should left With Russians in 90's!Europe would be much better place right now!!! Go bomb some USA City for Change!You may start with shithole like Chicago!!!Retard!!!
>>532812410Don't get imvolved in a genocide.What does he even want troops for?Is ground invasion back on the menu?The reality is that israel isn't willing to let this war end.They keep breaking the ceasefire.If iran was literally holding the world hostage despite REASONABLE condition requested by the west (not total surrender), I would change my view on this situation. Even if the west started the war, a solution still needs to be found.
>>532812410Guaranteed in the next two week:>Trump makes a big stink. MAGA will say Europe is on their own>Europe and the US will negotiate>US has to pay rent on the bases, and won't be able to do anything without their host country agreeing>europe still doesn't help with iran>MAGA will declare victory
>>532813504Guaranteed every day on pol: Mi6 keeps crying and creating 10,000 anti-Trump and anti-Maga threads daily. >i.e. literally nothing changes
>>532812410i don't think they care, Donnie
>>532812540They would never do that because they need us infinitely more than we need them and we could just blow any of their blockades to pieces. It would be suicide unironically. Europe lost the right to front run Western civilization during two world wars and a third would leave them in an even less favorable position. Sure they could run to China, kneecap all the industry they have left, become completely beholden to a foreign country that cares about them even less than we do and can’t or won’t front their security as we’ve seen in Iran and in the process they’ll get their shit pushed in by American gunboats right before the terminal decline of the continent sets in forever. They have to understand this.
>>532812410I'm glad https://rollcall.com/factbase-twitter/?platform=all&sort=date&sort_order=desc&page=1exists. I can check every tweet easily and then determine whether OP is writing prank threads.
>>532812914yeah the real posts are even more retarded
>>532812410Thank you Mr President. Fuck you europe. Better trade those man purses in for guns, you're gonna need them.
Trump is the bitch threatening to walk out on you, having been standing at the door for the past half an hour saying "I'm really leaving, this is your last chance to stop me!" the whole time while you just stare at her like pic related.
Democrats won't give him the 2/3 senate vote to leave, and he's getting fucked in the mid terms.
>>532812410this nigger talk as much as a woman STFU
>>532812410You have to make an ultimatum when you are dealing with the scum of the earth.
>>532812410Based
>>532812410fake
>>532812410man it would be very nice if he actually do it, but we all know he's just gonna taco again
>>532813946This unironically. Fortunately for Eurocucks we love them a great deal. So much so that Trump can't actually leave NATO without congressional approval because we passed a law to prevent that in 2023
>>532812410No one cares anymore and his threats are empty. Iran still has all their power plants and bridges. He's nothing but a loud kike puppet.
>>532812410We’d help Obama and BidenFuck Trump
>>532812410Burgermutts, why are you such psychotic, sperging bitches?Is it because you have no skin on your dick? Is it due to irritation or some other factors??
>>532812410so hes now attempting to get other countries involved in the taking over of countries surrounding Israel because they want to genocide anyone who isnt Jewish? fuck me this is getting old
>>532812410go suck a nigger dick orange pedo
>>532812410technically, it was isreal asking for help, not Murricaactually, isreal didn't even ask: they did the first strikes, and made Trump follow
>>532812410good riddance lol
taco tacoburrito burritotaco taco
>>532812410i almost responded to this fake shitlooks like he wrote it
>>532812410another "south korean" fake and gay trump post, get a life
>>532812410God I wish this was real.
Could the US and Israel take Turkey in a war theroetically?
>>532812722Oh no the poor roaches
>>532812410America can't be considered "western nation". That's bullshit. He behaves like Idi Amin or other African warlord. Americans are retarded.
The most real wumao propaganda
>>532815117>Could the US and Israel take Turkey in a war theroetically?Israel would start it and then take a back seat.I can't see many Euro countries helping out. After the original airstrikes by the USA, their logistics would be stretched and they would have to ceasefire, to gain time to regroup.I think it's unlikely.
>>532815117mutts can't defeat iran, iraq, afghanistan and vietnamwhat do you think?
>>532813946Just like the Hormussy the English channel can be blocked with a box of Temu drones, and just like the Hormussy you mutts can't open it even if you brought all your carrier groups.
>>532812722I thought we were in good graces with roach kingdom the helped get a bunch of territory full of baddies
>>532812410Why 10 days though? Leave today you orange nigger.
>its fakeprobably gonna be true in the future though, and the real one is always more comedic
>>532812664You're not even in NATO, you're just under permanent British occupation.
>>532815643>you're just under permanent British occupation.American 'education' everybody.
>>532814193>this is a real post made by the president of the united statesif you ever need a top signal, this is it
>>532812410Senate will definitely will vote for this self rape demented orangutan completely forgot he is just a president of a republic and not a ceo.
>>532812410Fair weather friends are as bad as enemies. Dump NATO and Eurocuck losers. Burn them to the ground. Enjoy Islam you continental dorks.
>>532812410Good, fuck Eurofags, snobby little shitstains, got all comfy in their hubris so much so to even allow endless floods of brown animals into their lands and ignore all the problems this causes, fuck Eurofags, fuck em dead until they wake up.
>>532813504>US has to pay rent on the basesthey do not yet?
>>532812410Doesn't matter. The US lost to Iran and, worse, it can't even put its yapping dog on a leash. Europe will side with the chinks, the US will collapse militarily and economically, and its people will be shut out from world trade for a century as members of a pariah nation. Still gonna have brown neighbors living next door though.
>>532812914It's fucking hilarious how the way I knew it was fake was that it was somewhat coherent
>>532815117Wouldnt it be way more effective to activate all the refugees and minorities in turkey to do low level violence first like they do in the west.Expect incoming pro kurdish state propoganda (they wont get a state, but it will be the narrative israel uses to destablise turkey.)
>>532815986>>532816031>Amerimutts calling other countries brown>>532816101I'm not sure the poster you replied to has their marbles.YES they do pay rent and we can deny them access to nukes or to use their bases for aggressive action.
>>532812410Fuck off pedo goy.
>europe>enjoying total peaceThe gaslighting by this orange nigger is getting hilarious. He seems to be unaware that there is an active warzone in europe right this very second.
>>532812410Okay keep me posted on what happens in two more weeks.
>>532816380Silence Nigel, you're one of the greater offenders of self destruction, there will be nothing left to save when you crawl begging from 2 decades of self destructive Blair idiocy, also Charles is a traitor faggot needing to be hung. DEATH TO THE KING
>>532812410We don't care what Europeans think any more. They've allowed their civilization to be taken over by Jihadist invaders. Until they sort that out, we have zero respect for them. Trying to argue with 90% of Europe is a waste of time. Their people are beyond demoralized. Intergenerational cucking has completely drained them of the will to stand up for anything virtuous, even the basic animal values of self-preservation. They are essentially told they must care for every foreigner, and many of them go along with it. Euros are educated in self-destructive nihilism from birth, and the fruit of this despondency is a complete spiritual collapse of the continent.The reality is, Europe is just becoming a satellite continent for Africa and the Middle East. There is no visible assimilation or even an attempt at it. Europeans are nothing but the dogs of Muslims. They have established themselves as the ruling class in Europe, they live there, but are not subject to European laws or values, while native Europeans exist to serve them and must placate their every whim.A Muslim can mass murder dozens of Europeans. And what is their instinct? Mourn for their dead brothers and sisters? Desire revenge? Make sure it doesn't happen again by getting them out? No. When an attack happens, Europeans don't shed tears for the dead. They shed tears thinking about the backlash against Muslims. They cry about how, "oh, this attack will cause the far right to be more popular!" Meanwhile they reassure themselves that we are all human while Muslims laugh at them for being weak spineless cucks and blatantly take advantage of them, proudly sucking Europe dry.It is like they want to go extinct. They hate themselves more than anything else in the world. A continent of useless, self hating pussies who somehow think they are also superior to the rest of the world because they care about "muh human rights" (lel)
>>532816380Shut the fuck up you Paki-loving cunt. You English faggots pay nearly half of your income as tax to support Muslim welfare munchers who rape your children and bring in more of their inbred relatives to replace you while British families are evicted to accommodate them, with the full support of most of the population. You're a castrated, self-hating Labour-voting poofter who celebrated the Manchester bombing, sucks the cock and balls of Two Tier Keir the Queer and sold out your own country to the assorted trash of the third world for a chicken tikka masala.If a dirty little swollen headed Somalian foreign bastard stabbing a 6 year old British child 177 times does not make you want to stand up for your country and fight back then I don't know what will. Yet the vast majority of Britroaches continue to defend immigration and minorities. There isn't a single Britroach alive above the age of 20 who is not complicit in the mass sexual exploitation of the Muslim grooming gangs and the subsequent cover up. Each and every one of you, is the moral equivalent of Jimmy Savile and should be treated as such. Everywhere you go, you should be subjected to beating, mutilation and sexual assault. If you have any children, I hope they are killed in a similar fashion as the ones in the Southport stabbing. You have done nothing but advocate for unlimited immigration and the destruction of your own race
>>532813946>we could just blow any of their blockades to piecesBruh you got bodied by Iran
>>532812410Literally just call his bluff. I don't know why people continue to fall for this blowhard's antics. Show an ounce of backbone and he'll fall in line and give you literally everything you want, that's Trump's MO.
>make fake tweet thread>95% of anons take it at face valueWhy is nu/pol/ like this
Fake but should be real
>>532816645How did you type all that in 30 seconds?
>>532816569Blair was an arse and Charles is weak . . .. .we know this.I don't know who you are trying to offend here?
>>532816824Don't reply to the Singapore pasta . . .how new are you?
>>532812410*yawn* Again?
>>532816765i just assume that most of the posts taking it at face value are bots somehow. the possibility of there being that many stupid people here frightens me too much.
>>532816765>>532816794>>532817014>newfags adding nothing meanwhile perfectly fine political engagements occur in spite of fake postscongratulations, you called water wet and still bumped the thread, retards.
Did they protect the gulf countries when Iran droned them? We don't need the US protection because they have publicly shown the entire world that they can't protect shit.
ive been seeing Taco for weeks, i still dont know what it meansi dont care what it means
>>532812410Two more weeks until the Saarland is free of mutts?Sign me the fuck up
>>532817128You probably do not know this yet but there is a way you can post in a thread without bumping it.Also don't be upset because you feel called out for falling for a fake tweet my retarded memeflag friend. It happens.
>>532814327Anyone with more than half a brain and has had an adult interaction has recognized this since Greenland. They, European heads of state, entertained it then, but now they're bored. They know what the process is to leave NATO, lmao
>>532812410This is really embarrassing. Groveling and whining that others won't clean up his mess. What a fucking cuck. Anyway there's little chance he actually follows through with his little threats.
>>532812664Lots of times. Why deny reality? You must be a woman. If you really think Trump is bluffing you should talk to Maduro or Ayatollah Khomeini. Ask them if Trump bluffs.
>>532812410>>532813946We need USA like disantry on the lepers colony.
>>532812410old retarded circumcised dick sucking faggot
>>532812410Beyond based
>>532812410This short-necked neanderthalic piece of shit is already using our base and he wants more.Give him nothing. He can't do anything. If he loses all their European bases it's over for him. Leftists can smell blood and weakness like no one else.
>>532813469They need the Iranians to blow up some ships so they can sell it to the American people as "look how deranged the Muslims are they hate our freedom and are attacking world trade!"If they just keep charging 2 million chink bucks and blowing up sand people noone cares.Same as how he's called all the mariners of cargo ships sometimes LNG carriers pussies for not going through. Friendly reminder that Barron Trump has made $150 million off of insider trading off of this and that Dems were right and he did deserve to be put in a cage with pedophiles before he aged out of them being able to get erections for him.
>>53281241010 more days. Dont make him destroy your entire civilization! He can do it in one day.
>>532812410he's right, but it's all about market manipulation, he won't do shit
>>532812410Good, end NATO. Was always just useless posturing anyway. If anyone ever thought these euro trash would ever be men they were dreaming
>>532817236I bet you could smell their tacos from 20 feet if you know what I'm saying. A nods as good as a yes.Is your wife interested in... photography?Snap snap, grin grin, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more
Just declare war on Turkey now.
>>532817933You mean those times Trump acted like a woman? What have we gotten out of Iran other then a closed Hormussy?
>>532812410He thinks that this makes him look tough but it just makes him look like a crying bitch. No one wants to fight his jewish war. The US military doesn't even want to fight it. This whole shot was completely unnecessary and showed that he is just Israel's puppet.
>>532812410>inb4 reverted + reparations next week
>>532812410Permaban for intentional non satirical fake truths
>>532814713my understanding is that israeli jets don't have the range to bomb iran without being refueled by american tankersmeaning that, just like everything else everyone in officialdom has said in the last month, that story about israel acting alone in the first strike was a lie
>>532812410Germany will send a corvette as soon as America repaired their Nord Stream 2 pipeline.
>>532821230found the jew
>>532821429i'm saying that zog is exactly as responsible as israel itself>israel struck first, we had no choice!sounds better to the fox news boomers than>israel ordered our air force to join their first strike and we complied because they're our rulers
>>532821642those are exactly the same sentences
Hold fast men of the West. Let Israel's Gollum shriek and moan.He will leave NATO no matter what you do. He is compelled to help Israel flatten Turkey and then take Greenland. Both Turkey and Denmark are NATO countries. Technically an attack on Turkey or Greenland by the US would kick off Article 5 and bring all 32 countries to aid. I suspect he is hoping NATO will evaporate without the US involvement.
>>532812410>Send troops to something completely unrelated to NATO to save NATO. >Israel wants NATO / US split to pressure Turkey.I sincerely hope we all collectively tell him to go fuck himself.
>>532812410If trump wanted NATO's help in Iran, why did he do nothing but insult them for years?
>>532812410The US can leave and nobody would care. NATO is made up of pretty much every country in Europe and Canada and it's only job is to defend against Russia.
>>532812410>10 daysNot even 2 weeks?
>>532812410dying for israel continues in 2 weeks goyim
trump is currently negotiating to open a strait with people that he already claimed to have beat weeks ago to accomplish what didn't need to be negotiated before the war started. and all of this against his own promises to his own base that got him reelected. people aren't pissed off enough about all of this yet, but they will be.
>>532812410FAKERemember to sage ai bot threads
>>532812684He'll do it anyway.
>>532812739Now you get the point of the whole Iran thing. Create a reason to leave. /k/ is seething at the realization because the Euro mods there are realizing they can't play armchair general without the US to provide military might.
>>532812410Fuck this dickhead and fuck all you faggot retards that's voted for him. Leave NATO. Do it. And don't ever visit Europe again - any of you. We will continue to live in civil society and you can continue to degenerate until you live in little holes in the ground.England should copyright their language so you fucking morons can't butcher it any longer. You can finally have your own language "American" as you crave. A series of grunts, scratches and farts. Not much more is needed to communicate your president's ideas.
>>532812410>Trump's final warningdo it, faggotnuke the shitties, even
>>532812410fakenot your personal army, sorry
>>532812410Yankee fuck off from europe
>>532822772You voted for this though
US China Russia India- The New Global Alliance You didn't want to believe me. But I told you exactly the way it is. Perhaps you will believe your own eyes. Probably not.
>>532812410not 2 weeks?
>>532812722The fun part: German politicians explaining to the Turkish diaspora why they are still the USA's allyThe not fun part: all Turks moving to Germany.
>>532814399>this nigger talk as much as a woman STFUReminds me of my retarded cousin who lives in a shed. lmaoCC: Lambright
>>532812410Your conditions are acceptable.
>>532812410Why is this retarded kike threatening to leave NATO like once every few days? Just leave or stfu.
i almost feel bad for joe. too stupid to catch on to the fell for it again award 3 times but just smart enough to realize in retrospect that he was the useful idiot Zogblicans needed
>mutts hate Europe now that whites are a minority in their country Figures
>>532823424no I didnt. I havent voted the last 3 elections, everyone that did vote for this moron should kill themselves
>>532812410Go Taco yourself fucking orange retard
>>532812410But why? I mean I like leaving if we’re going to be isolationist, but apparently we’re just going to bomb countries and also scrap our alliances? Trump kinda sucks
i hate miggers but trump has always had a point about europe. we shouldn't leave nato but yuros have been way too passive and naive>america warns europe that russia is going to chimp out>haha fuck you stupid americans that would NEVER happen russia is not run by warmongers like you>russia invades ukraine>NOOOO AMERICA HELP US PLEASE OH GOD RUSSIA IS INVADING WE CAN'T STOP THEMand now we have>iran threatens to take over the strait for years>america is the only one who ever seems to give a shit about iran>one day it finally happens>multiple european nations are now screeching about how iran's demand for permanent control over the strait along with tolls is completely unacceptable and illegal>while at the same time refusing to actually doing anything about it because they're hoping that america solves the problem despite america currently being ran by the one of the worst admins in historyIran deciding to take over the strait was something we knew they were going to do even before trump. Everyone agrees that it's illegal and will completely fuck over the world economy but all europe is doing is making statements about how it's totally bad and should stop instead of actually doing anything about it. What is the point of an alliance when europe tells america to handle everything itself whenever something happens?
>>532812410This is the one good thing he's done, if he does it. Euroleeches need to learn.
>>532812664NATO treaty is an act of congress and he can't leave on his own with out congress passing a law.
>>532812410>we are leaving the defensive alliance if europe doesn't support Israel's war of aggressionkek
>>532812410good
>>532812739No refunds
>>532813946you can only bully poor shitholes, the moment you fight an actual army with nuclear weapons you will get it
>>532812729Defense doesn't just entail bending over with a shield buttpulg in your ass. Sometimes you need to take out a den to protect the village.
>trump threatens EU to capitulate to his threats or face the wrath of his next threat
>>532825181what did iran do to the world other than refusing to partake in globohomo?
>>532812410
>>532812729>its a defensive alliance though, they shouldn't feel the need to to anything in this case.They seem pretty angry about iran's peace deal giving them control over the strait. Are they gonna do anything about that? Maybe some more angry letters will convince iran?
>>532812410>sending troops>after you signed a ceasefire>to a war you claimed to have won several times
>>532812410Revisionist history. The only reason US became an empire after WW2 is because of the european countries. The reason for petro dollar are the gulf states. US wanted to be a merc for hire, then be a fucking good disposable merc.
>>532824547>I'm not a migger>Starts sperging migger propaganda.Nigger 2 months ago you didnt even know strait of hormuz existed because it was never threatened. It was never even talked about. They only closed it because you attacked.And even if we play with the hypothetical idea that Iran makes the first move and threatens the strait, it would probably have cause NATO as well as the entire world to react, just like how the entire world rallied behind USA during the Kuwait crisis. Remember that?You maga faggot cultists cant even be reasoned with anymore. Literally brainwashed. Logic has left the room.NATO is a defensive alliance, not your pitbull.
>>532812410Americans are shit soldiers. The whole military industrial complex a bloated balloon that pops as early as they have a real nation as an enemy with a real army, not some peasants with AK47, even though they lose against them too. (Afghanistan, Vietnam,....)We don't need them. Fuck this russian & israeli puppet clown who doesn't even know that NATO is a DEFENSIVE alliance not his tool for every dumb attack war he is losing. Russia and Pissrael have videos on Trump fucking kids and he does whatever they want from him.He will chicken out of this ultimatum anyways.
>>532814664It’s not all of us. It’s just a lot of us.
European leaders have responded by letting a million more niggers enter the Schengen area
>>532812540turks say they're european
>>532825289Attacking their neighbors for existing. Killing their own people. Lying about breaking treaties, yet again. Ruining their own country and starving their own people for jihad. Nigger behavior.
>>532825748Wrong. They've done it multiple times in the past. I thought that europe had good education? Are europeans ignorant of the world around them? Maybe you just forgot about iran's meltdown in 2012 over the sanctions? Or a few years before that when they threatened to do the same in 2008?
>>532825919>Americans are shit soldiers.>literally the only country in the world that can do and still does evacuations for every countryCOMPETENCE? WE DON'T DO THAT IN GERMANY
>>532826117Iran has always threated to close the strait, which is why no US president was stupid enough to start a full on war with iran until trump. theres nothing in this war that is benefiting america or the american people, nothing
>>532826117>They've done it multiple times in the past.Okay prove it. Shouldnt be hard for you to find evidence then.
>>532826117>>532826353https://apnews.com/article/strait-of-hormuz-shipping-oil-disruptions-2a8abe58648abd2d9c4785b4130bee0cHere's an article that condenses everything into one page. Every single time europe sits back and has america fix it. Why euros so dumb? Is this the power of euro "education"?>>532826298I agree that the war is dumb, but this has always been a problem that needed to be solved. You cannot have a country of 90 million people threaten to hold the entire world hostage everytime they feel like it.
>>532826434I mean we’re a nation of 350 million with a president threatening to hold the world hostage every time he feels like it
>>532825561Yes
>>532826117And again, it doesnt fucking matter.My point still stands; you would have a point if Iran made the first move, because it would probably have sparked an international coalition.But they didnt make the first move.You did.Thus you lost the argument.You ATTACKED.
>>532826434>You cannot have a country of 90 million people threaten to hold the entire world hostage everytime they feel like it.North korea does this shit all the time. and you know why we dont bomb or invade north korea? because they have nuclear weapons now. Iran and every other country knows that when you get nukes america wont attack you, so Iran will never stop trying to get nukes. and also just because a country is bad, that doesnt mean trump needs to launch a giant attack against them with no plan to actually win, is beyond retarded.
>>532826064They don't smell European though.
>>532812739Your parents took your foreskin upon your inception
>>532826434The article says in the first paragraph that Iran backs off. They are empty threats thus.Because if Iran actually closed the strait, there would be an international outrage. It would be on paralell to the Kuwait energy crisis caused by Iraq which sparked an international intervention.You literally have no grounds here.If Iran made the first move, you'd have a point if we did not take action.
>>532826544>>532826735Ok, then stop complaining about it. Europe keeps saying that iran shouldn't be given permanent control over the strait, but also they don't feel like stopping iran from doing that? Either do something or stop writing angry letters about how somebody else needs to stop them.
>>532826434And why is your country allowed to hold the world a hostage? To meddle in internal affairs of others? Stop preaching
WTF the one time NATO's Article Five has been invoked was after 9/11 when Europe sent many thousands of troops to Afghanistan. Britain alone lost over 500 troops and spent countless billions we couldn't afford since we don't have the infinite money hack the US has.
>>532813946>they need us infinitely more than we need them>we could just blow any of their blockades to pieces
>>532826793> Europe keeps saying that iran shouldn't be given permanent control over the strait,Yes, if they wake up one day and simply decides to close it, we would react you fucking moron.It's not compareable to you ATTACKING them and they close the strait because it's their only way of defending themselves.And then you act like they closed the strait out of nowhere.
clearly it wasn't him providing the peace, seeing as he just started a war
FUCK YEAHHHHAINT NO WAY ITS ACTVALLY HAPPENINGBLESS YOU BENNY HILL MAY WALMART BLESS YOU
>>532812410Fun fact, Australia has a superior navy then any Euro country including the "Strongest" UK royal navy. Now this might be a confusing statement but while Australia acts as a normal country and puts mid level effort into its navy but nothing special so its operational and has proper maintenance to keep it functional the UK is unable to even use it ships as the majority are not functional and the ones that are broken messes that still move.Remember when Trump was having a go at Euro's + UK for not helping they are in fact incapable of proving any aid at all. This makes me wonder are European armies treated the same? The Air force? Because its shocking to consider my country relevant as a military power due to complete failure of others.
>>532826793>>532826925https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20260409-shipping-toll-for-hormuz-passage-sharply-divides-nationshttps://www.politico.eu/article/uk-rejects-tolls-on-strait-of-hormuz-yvette-cooper/https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2026/04/09/eu-rejects-trumps-joint-venture-to-charge-ships-through-the-strait-of-hormuzThe gcc has taken the same stance, and they're backing it up by bombing iran. But when it comes to europe's demands, they say that a peace deal to give iran the strait is unacceptable but also someone else should fix that problem.>we would react you fucking moron.Have you not been paying attention to the news? How many more news articles do I need to link? Europe is reacting. Their reaction is to make statements and write letters. You seem to be ignorant of what your leaders are doing.
>>532812410>be old enough to have witness the creation of NATO>still not understanding what it isYou know all those rumours that he's actually illiterate? He's giving the best proof that they're all true.
>>532812739other way around
>>532812410If USA leaves NATO it will magically convince Zelensky to take the Russian peace offer.
>>532827309he doesnt read anything. he just does whatever he wants and he knows all his lackeys will fall over themselves defending anything he does, even if its a complete contradiction.
>>532827163Iran never took control of the strait so we had no reason to react.If they had taken control of the strait, there would likely be an international coalition to stop them.They only took control of the strait now because they were attacked and this was their only means to defend themselves.These are not compareable scenarios. One is a seflish act of aggression during peacetime, the other is a pragamtic act of self-defence during wartime. Yet you try to frame them as the same just because it involves the same action.None of this would have happened if you didnt attack.And if it did happen unprovoked, then you would have an argument for an international coalition to intervene, just as we did with Kuwait.I dont understand how reason and logic is completely washed over your head.We're not going to join your war of aggression because your 2-day special operation failed. You have no plan on how to operate this war. You have no plan on how to win this war. You have no evaluation of the cause and effects this war could bring, yet you get mad when we dont rush to get tangled up in a situation you created.
>>532812739>They've don't FUCKING NOTHING but take out money since inception.Pro capita the US is realistically actually the LOWEST net investor into NATO.They falsely report all troops abroad including in out-of-way places like the Pacific theater as spendings under NATO, using the weak argument that in a pinch those forces could be redeployed to Europe. (They can't. It would critically weaken the Pacific. Which is exactly what dumb-fuck Trump has already done pulling resources from there to Iran to appease and lick the heels of his master, Israel.) What the US invests into ammunition and weapons platforms, it pays out to the US military industrial complex, which means the money circulates back into the US economy and back into the US treasury. Compare to what Europe invests into NATO, where for sake of interoperability the US has pushed NATO to acquire all ammo and weapons platforms from the same US military industrial complex. So the EU NATO members are fueling the US economy and their spending flows back into the US treasury.TL;DR - if you look at real net numbers, Europe probably spends more on actual NATO affairs than the US.
>>532815749Oh come the fuck on.
>>532827562>but it's america's faultSo what are you going to do about it? Send more angry letters?
>>532812410NOOOOO PLEASE; WE NEED TO BE OCCUPIED BY AMERICAN GLOBO HOMO!!!!!
>>532812410Theater. American deep state's probably planning to cozy up to Russia and let Europe try to contain Russia, while they themselves focus on choking China without having to worry about Russian assistance. The war in Iran already forced China to turn to Russia for their fossil fuels, and if the Russians start to think "Americans are actually okay, but fuck these Europeans... Let's divide the world between ourselves and the Americans", then China would be in trouble. That's their theory, but in practice it's probably going to backfire because the Russians probably aren't that gullible. They can easily counter this strategy in a way that contains America's sphere of influence to the western hemisphere and makes the entire Old World greatly dependent on Russian energy.
>>532812410>>532812739nAtO iS a DeFeNSe aLliAnCE -do not attack soverein nations by bombing girlschools and expect anyone to follow, retarded fatassJust fuck off, leave Nato, leave Europe and enjoy your "board of peace" and your niggers, disgusting pigsS
>>532827725refuting your denial of reality is enough for now golem.
>>532827725I'm perfectly happy to continue explaining to you how your logic and reason is completely flawed.The strait was never under any real threat and even if we pretend that it was, it would still have required Iran to make the first move to justify an international intervention just as what happened with Kuwait.This is the reason Iran never made the first move, and their threats were just empty threats.Now they're just defending themselves until it's no longer necessary to do so.What am I going to do about it? Sit back and watch you destroy our (what previously seemed to be eternal) alliance over some bullshit you cannot justify. We'll let history judge the rest.Again, you claim yourself not to be a Trump cultist but you've absorbed their logic but deep inside I think even you are beginning to see how reason doesnt add up.
>>532828105>Now they're just defending themselves until it's no longer necessary to do so.Actually, they're demanding permanent control over the strait and tolls. You haven't been reading the news? Did you ignore the articles I linked? We're just going in circles because you seem to be denying reality. What is happening is that iran is demanding permanent control over the strait forever, and your leaders are making statements about how that's unacceptable. Is this a bot? Can you even read these posts? Do swedes not understand english?
NATO would be fine without Trump and America lol. We would steamroll Russia if they tried anything. They cant even take Ukraine which is a piece of shit 3rd world country. How are they going to take the EU?Americucks are pathetic. We dont need you. We never did. We also could've easily won WW2 without you.
>>532812410fake & gay tweet/truth, completely made up..
bye kike
>>532826793It was fine before YOU started the war you dumb migger retard. YOU break it YOU fix it.
>>532812664he will be the gravedigger of the USA
>>532828870Ok, then tell YOUR leaders to stop making demands.
>>532828290Im not going to get involved in a situation you created. You two are going to be going on and off about your respective demands until a peace agreement can be reached.I am merely pointing out that this was never a problem before the war, and even if we play with the hypothetical idea that Iran seize control of the strait during peacetime then there would more than likely have been an international intervention just like before, and if that intervention never came, you would have a point in your argument.But this is your war now. Their actions is a response to your war. Not even your own countrymen thinks this was in US interest then how the hell are you going to tell us Euros that its in our interest.The only argument you have is the situation as it stands, where Iran is trying to muscle itself against US demands for surrender.This situation only exists because you attacked.Not a very smart decisionAnd we're not going to pay for it.We are sick and tired of wars in the middle east.You started a war with no plan on how to operate it, with no plan on how to win it, with no plan on how to exit it, with no consideration or evaluation on the consequences of it.You want to kill NATO over this, then fucking do it and shut the fuck up. I'm done with you.>Do swedes not understand english?I wonder if you would be able to hold your own in a geopolitical debate using a foreign language, yet you're quick to take the piss on us.
>>532812410It's TACO Tuesday everyday. I'm sick of eating Tacos.
>>532828959>You two are going to be going on and off about your respective demands until a peace agreement can be reached.Do you understand that europe is also going on about their respective demands?
>>532828929Tell YOUR leaders to clean up THEIR mess you dumb migger retard.
>>532812410If everyone rips off the bandaid at once it won’t hurt so bad. They’ll figure it out they’ve all been around for thousands of years. We need to go home and get to year 300.
>>532812410Any Europeans with any industrious nature immigrated to America, all that is left in the old country are the infirm and lethargic. Europe is over.
>>532812410Trump shouldn't even bother with all of this stuff and just go back to drinking jew cum
>>532829089Look at this European, too lazy to do anything himself. That's why they need to import one billion niggers from the turd world.
>>532812722if that happens it will lead to WW3
>>532812739>They've don't?>out money?Nice English there Vlad
if only
>>532812664When has this idiot ever not fallen for a fake Drumpf tweet? This board is full off absolute retards.
>>532812410Just make Luxembourg do it. They can send their whole navy and volunteer army.
>>532829905You've done fuck all but have been taking the American money since inception. Better now?
>>532812410BYE FELICIA
>>532812600mais nada
>>532812410I hate Trump but this is absolutely true.
>>532812410>help us offensively attack Iran despite NATO being a defensive alliance.this orange nigger is insane
>>532812410Europe is an entitled, post-wall bitch
>>532812410To anyone reading this. The US will leave NATO to start aiding Israel in ground operations in Syria against Turkish troops.
>>532812410Europeans should all leave overnight tonight. Trump wakes up holding the bag.
>>532812410>PLEASE JUST ONE EURO COUNTY HELP US, IT CAN EVEN BE LIECHTENSTEIN OR MOLDOVA, ANYONEPathetic
>>532812410That's a colonial occupation not an 'alliance'. And it's not going to end anytime soon. Even in the ultra improbable case the US get out of NATO the bases will stay there on a bilateral basis. Nothing ever happens.
>>532812410every fuking day with this cringe-ass goyim
>>532833026They won't exit our markets, bonds or petrodollar what makes you think they can leave?
>>532812410that's a jail director 'threatening' the inmates to be set free. does it make any sense ? no.
>>532812410Why can the Chickenshit mafia fight and win there own wars?
>>532830800>You've done fuck alldidn't we go to Iraq for these retards? Oh yea we did.>but have been taking THE american moneyit's just american money you fucking retard, and no just because they spent 1 trillion a year on THEIR OWN military doesn't mean we're taking it you fucking dumb slav nigger.
