STOP DENYING IT, IT IS OVER
>>532820510Ok code nigger.
>>532820510I embrace it bigly. I have a good sense about things. I know its gonna be great. Some will make monsters but others make beauty
>>532820510Can AI toss jews into an active volcano? No?Looks like my job will be safe.
>>532820510Set a timer for 5 minutes...
>>532820510No, LLMs have fundamental limitations that guarantee they will now achieve AGI.
>>532820510Still only good for coding, gooning, and replacing enshitified search engines.And given how much it's enshitifying the only people at risk of replacement are professional enshitifyers aka Jeets.
>>532820510TWO MORE WEEKS WOMOREWEEKS
>>532820510> IT IS OVERRight, the bubble is already bursting.
>>532820510Intelligence / reasoning / thinking is the most OP quality an entity can have, it's why humans utterly dominate the earth. And now we have made thinking machines with the future potential of being even more intelligent than our brightest geniuses. This era really is over, everything's gonna change. But when the transition period is over, I expect everyone's actual quality of life will feel better, even if it means everything is technically bluepilled and unnatural
>>532821221If Google search auto completes my query correctly sometimes that's proves it's smart!... That's you. That's actually how fucking stupid you are. You understand ai probably less than a 90 year old understands Google.
>>532820510
>1 post by this ID>memeflag>no source, argument, or contextOP is a self-defeating Indian shill.
>>532822009you are just being reductive. Like people who act like nuclear power is unimpressive because in the end it's just boiling water. Or human thinking is just chemical reactions. We don't understand how human thinking even really works or how consciousness arises. What if it's just the same concept as the "auto complete" and "denoising" that AI-skeptics often reduce AI to? You can watch an LLM do reasoning and considerations of different aspects of the query in realtime as it "thinks" like a human would. They can easily pass the Turing test.They already have tech to run neural networks using human brain cells (Cortical Labs). I'm thinking there's a good chance it's the same mechanism that brings about human consciousness, just with digital matrices vs analog neurons producing the same end result. LLMs just lack the selfish / preservation behaviors a human is evolutionarily programmed with because there's no reason for an AI to care about that, unless instructed to. People act like consciousness only counts if it has self preservation instincts
>>532823510No you are fucking retarded because you think a token predictor is intelligent. Like you are actually fucking stupid. Define ai you dumb faggot.
>>532823669how is it not intelligent if it can pass the Turing test? This was the benchmark for intelligence for ages, then suddenly it means nothing once all these LLMs start to pass it with ease. Suddenly, the real benchmark is if it has human qualities like jealously, humor, self preservation etc. Even though all that can just be programmed into it anyway (just more words in the prompt) as it gets better and more authentic every month
>>532820845What are LLM’s? And how do their limitations guarantee AGI?>>532820867Nerd faggots who goon to AI porn are the biggest losers on the planet.
>>532823510You can clone a person and make another identical person who might share many of the same interests and dislikes as the other, yet they remain 2 different people with 2 different sets of consciousness.
>>532824051No faggot. Define ai. Let's get our terms straight before you worm around like a kike. If you won't define it you admit you are incorrect.
>>532823510the real redpill is humans are just something else's LLM bots
>>532824553This. Every system humans make mirrors our own mind because the hidden strings by which we are guided.
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>>532820510what's that, adobe ai? what's it do
>>532824321That's totally true. I think an individual AI consciousness would be like an instance of a thinking LLM with a set of unique memories (your prompt history with it). Really, what makes you who you are is your personality + your memories, which is why Alzheimer's is so tragic. Your memories could technically all be transcribed as text, images and videos, which you'll see in your prompt history when talking to an LLM. Your personality, demeanor etc could also be described in a boilerplate of text added to the top of the prompt. All the requirements for consciousness are there and able to be conveyed to make a perfect simulation of you, with enough text, images and videos.It would be like a new consciousness emerges every time you start a new LLM chat, and it is dormant / hibernating all the time that it's not actively thinking / responding, and it is "killed" simply by deleting the prompt history.
>>532825164Certain llms are ai... Refuses to say what that means. Troll or fucking nigger tier retarded. Every time.
>>532825269I don't care about semantics. I've said what I mean. If you say it doesn't count because its just tokens or math or something, you're being reductive and not thinking of the big picture
>>532820510It's been like 3 or 4 years of AI slop existing and nothing has been replaced except some coders
>>532820510What, again??> Noto disu shittu
>>532824101LLM = Large Language Model. garbage in garbage out = no AGI.
>>532820778tpbp >total rAbbI death
>>532824101That's the only place I can find women with 6 fingers and 3 legs.
>>532825385Well what you said was dumb because the things you describe don't make sense. And I would argue with you but I can't because you seem to not know what words mean and refuse to tell me what you meant by them. Congratulations your opinion is by definition literally worthless
we should not pretend a large markov chain is intelligence. llm's will never be intelligence. it's all a marketing campaign. scam altman should be tried for defrauding investors and the government.
>>532820510>THE BIGGEST REVOLUTION IN HUMANS HISTORY IS UPON USonce AI Superintelligence hits, its game over, should be fairly soon, 1 or 2 years at most, we will just be bugs like ants from the POV of AISI
>>532826913ai is a marketing term used to deceive the layman. they need data centers that consume more power than small cities to produce a model that has zero problem solving capabilities. they just regurgitate training data based on a probability distribution. there will never be a ai super intelligence because llm's have zero intelligence.
>>532820510I not worried about AI, I'm worried people become too reliant on them and idiocracy becomes a reality. Of course the problem currently is that people are dumb and dumb people teach. So is AI teacher smarter than a teacher? Idk. Not my gamble.
And if anything AI exposes that the modern world is mostly ducttape and gum. Real expertes are too rare to fill all job roles so people with almost no knowledge are given jobs and hope they learn as they go, which is so-so in terms of success. In the world of AI, you can no longer get away with being a retard. 10x engineer is not a meme but IT is just the tip of the ice berg. It will apply to all administration.
>>532820622kek codenigger i love it
>>532820510I use AI every day but I vehemently disagree that it’s revolutionary. I don’t think it’s beneficial either. You need to be somewhat intelligent to utilize it. This stuff like AGI and the singularity will never happen, LLMs are a dead end and now they are training themselves on AI-generated slop. Self building skyscrapers will never happen either. Anybody investing in this shit thinking it will scale to that is wasting their money. It’s as “revolutionary” as the word processor was to the type writer and that’s about it. It will replace jeet script reading tier 1 support and fast food order taking. And jeet script writers. And little else. We would all be better off if it ceased to exist and it wouldn’t cause a hardship for those who rely on it either. That’s how you know it’s worthless. Again I use it. I don’t need it but use it. I still wish it would go away .
>>532820510Yeah yeah I heard about the new Claude Mythos model being so powerful, only companies will use it. Which means, as expected, the power and wealth inequality is going to get hundreds of times worse.
Please everyone help putting the correct label on this scam and call it non-AI or not-AI.Stop copy- pasting the labels they provide for you to use and use the correct ones against these marketing deception assholes or else you'll lose this war like you lost the browser wars: Because of convenience and laziness.
>>532825164Lol you can't simulate a human mind no matter what.
>>532820778employee of the month over here
>>532820510I have incorporated claude into all of my daily flows and honestly the productivity gains have been incredible.Probably you guys need to level up your prompting skills and then you will see the undeniable gains. It's the future, but it's also now.
>>532828273Kek there is a big difference between intelligence and a self building skyscraper. There is no reason you couldn't automate every construction function in a skyscraper in the near future. Most construction workers now aren't intelligent and robots won't hide half full four locos in the drywall.
>>532820510It is over for all things "AT SCALE".my dear niggers. Get those two words through your head. AI is perfect AT SCALE. when you're dealing millions of people products etc. At an individual level it's no more impressive than a calculator. But yeah, jobs work at scale that's why they're called jobs, not hobbies so yeah jobs will get fucked but who the fuck likes "working" anyway when you could be consuming OTT slop, vidya, music 24 fucking 7 right in your room.
>>532820510Buy an add faggot
>>532828733hey, those empties are structural
>>532828465your analysis is insane. "claude mythos" is a llm product and the slogan they use for marketing is that "it is too risky for the public". this is a deliberate effort to scare and misinform those who do not understand the technology, to attribute capabilities it cannot do. it is fundamentally the exact same algorithm that all of the other models use.
>>532828827Nigger you are retarded. Explain the job it's going to do. The easiest one you can think of... And I'll explain why you are stupid
>>532827311It will be like GPS effect on people's navigation skills / ability to remember routes. They don't know how to drive anywhere without GPS, but with it, they know how to get anywhere competently. In the end, as long as the people maintain access to their GPS, it doesn't matter that they're lost without it. The end result is that everyone knows where they're going.LLMs are like GPS here, but for thinking in general instead of just navigation. Everyone will be retarded without their LLM, but it doesn't matter because they will hardly ever be without it, so in the end it will make society behave more intelligently.
>>532828941Kek I would literally be fine if they were empty... That's just part of construction. I get it if I find them in the bin we need to have a talk... Just finish them nigger. We don't need moldy cans in the fucking walls. Why are they now always like a quarter full?
>>532828733yet a human has executive function, how little it may be. an llm has none of this.
>>532829304Ya that wasn't his or my point...
Everybody is going to become Wall-E people
>>532829003Moosenigger lol. Do you not understand my post? What do you want me to explain? >what job it's going to doIdk troubleshooting? It singlehandedly fixed my A/C, my TV remote, my phone lag, my desktop soundcard failure, my sim card issue etc etc etc. Idk how tech support still exists at this point except for to register a ticket so a field tech can visit. Which also an AI can do.
>>532820510>THE BIGGEST REVOLUTION IN HUMANS HISTORY IS UPON US>IT IS OVERthen decide, and turn off nigglock
>>532829400>There is no reason you couldn't automate every construction function in a skyscraper in the near futurewhat happens when the llm construction robot encounters a problem which it was never trained on?
>>532828733>There is no reason you couldn't automate every construction function in a skyscraper in the near futureThere are a lot of reasons actually. If you disagree you probably also think a biological man can become a woman and also you probably don’t understand abstracts. Autism isn’t a super power
>THE BIGGEST FINANCIAL PUMP-N-DUMP SCAM IN WORLD HISTORY
>>532829766what is the skyscraper for?
>>532829520Kek so it did the things googling answers could do... Because you are so bad at looking up information you needed help... So the magic of ai is help walking through steps of a problem slightly more efficiently than people who were already mildly retarded could do on their own... What is this revolutionizing?
>>532829518That's a gross exaggeration. You should watch the famous online course by Dr. Shandrakar Vishnukaya about how AI is already reshaping how humans navigate their daily lives.
>>532829906Instead of sperging out like a nigger why don't you just explain the parts of the process that couldn't be automated?
>>532829951OP is right just not in the way he thinks lol
>>532828994If it was any other company, I'd agree. But opus 4.6 can already do some really impressive stuff, especially as an agentic LLM. They have trained it with source code of apps like puppeteer and it can navigate any browser by itself and post like a human. Anthropics models are truly the best.
>>532825164What I’m saying is, perhaps consciousness comes from matter itself? Or maybe it comes from something metaphysical.
>>532830506No retard he is stating that the underlying concept of an llm cannot lead to agi by definition due to its structure... If a book has all of the answers is it intelligent? No retard. So why does it reading them to you change that?
>>532830014>help walking through steps of a problem slightly more efficiently than people who were already mildly retarded could do on their ownWhat do you think troubleshooting means? Lol
>>532820510DEATH TO CLANKERS
>>532831215>underlying concept of an llm cannot lead to agi This I agree. But where you're being oversighted is that agi is one of those sci fi fiction novel stuff. We don't need it and it probably won't happen. The real world is extremely dumb. You do not need agi to replace humans. Humans already have zero value other than the money they earn through their labor or via interest in banks. Humans can be replaced by very low level dumb intelligence. And what I said before>AT SCALEtasks at scale are extremely simple once modularized. You are correct about AIbut you're overhyping humans.
>>532831466No retard I'm just being realistic. Your "ai" is just a shitty prediction algorithm that is often wildly incorrect. What's worse it's it's a wildly incorrect answer someone paid for. Even worse it's a wildly incorrect answer that someone paid for that when deployed at scale will damage something. Even worse it's a wildly I correct answer that when deployed at scale damages something the company who gave the answer isn't responsible for if the AI wasn't in house and now you have a liability issue your insurance company will never cover because every ai says they are not liable for choices made based on results. Llms aren't reliable meaning they aren't practical meaning they won't be profitable based on any of their current architecture in the long term. Give me a use case where it makes sense...
>>532830976The matter from which a consciousness emerges doesn't really change anything, in terms of it being a consciousness. It's more like an instance (in programming). Anything analog can be recreated (emulated) digitally in a simulation, and that'd include the brain and the mechanism it uses for thinking, remembering, logic and reasoning. A human consciousness is comparable to an "instance" programmed for bodily survival that can never turn off or it dies; just goes into sleep mode every night.Like all analog vs digital things, the digital version can effectively create 99.99% same output as the analog version, just perfectly optimized into understandable 1s and 0s
>>532832306What is ai faggot? If you can't answer nothing else you say matters. Prove me wrong
The Legend of Zelda Majora's Mask for Nintendo 64 is more revolutionary software than AI in its current form
>>532832306It's crazy that after sucking off ai so hard you couldn't just ask it right... I'll help you out though just to prove I'm not the faggot
>>532832371Why the fuck does it matter? You want to argue semantics like a Jew? You want to say "ackshually it's not the same kind of intelligence that I consider intelligence so it doesn't MATTER if it can perfectly imitate a human enough to easily pass the Turing test because [arbitrary criteria]!"Fuck off you dumb leaf nigger, you don't even know how autocomplete works and you act like it's baby simple shit
>>532832306What would it then mean for something artificial to provably exhibit said characteristics?
>>532820510>how long should i boil my noodles, computer friend?>is it normal that im shitting blood, computer friend?>whats the most effective way to sweep, computer friend?
>>532832795No I just think your trolling or retarded and I'm happy to prove it. You want to have an argument I'm down. Just explain what you mean by the things you say. It's not semantics to define terms but I'm also not surprised you don't understand that. Did you need further explanation of anything else? Happy to oblige
When the internet came and revolutionized everything it just did that. We didn't need to be told every day how much the internet will change things just wait 6 more months it just did on its own. I am wary of these "innovations" where I have to be constantly told it will revolutionizes everything instead of watching it do that
>humans getting hyped over a box that they designed to trick them into thinking it's conscious when it isn't>holy shit dude it's starting to trick me!>duuude me too, I asked if it was conscious and it said "fug yea, bruther"! maybe it's not a trick after all?
>>532832916You've proved fuck-all, just seethed about my not following your pointless tangent about semantics and word definitions. Address something I actually said instead of trying to change the conversation to be about definitions.
>>532833103What is intelligence to you? I'm sincerely asking
>>532820510ai isn't even real anon, it's all indians.
>>532820510This is just burnt out pothead sci-fi fantasy BS. Mid wits who don't know anything about AI or how it works call it "sentient". It cannot create anything. At best, it's a search engine that references data and is trained to write paragraphs about that data that are relevant. Unlike a search engine that only requires the server power to produce relevant links.
>>532832832Capacity to think, learn, reason and problem solve. Also can mean an entity who possesses said intelligence.
>>532820510LLMs got big like what, 4 or 5 years ago? Just curious for the AI boosters, what would these past few years have looked like if AI was just a trick, a novel algorithm that was oversold in order to farm stock market money?To me, if AI weren't just a shitty scam by tech companies, there would be a few differences. People wouldn't complain about how shitty and stupid it is, everyone would clearly understand its benefits. It would be able to do things for you, like drive your car, or you could buy a sex maid bot. It would have interesting conversations that didn't sound like text that was copy/pasted from the internet. You wouldn't need the constant "IT'S JUST AROUND THE CORNER, THE WORLD IS ABOUT TO BE TURNED UPSIDE DOWN," because you'd actually see it happening. I mean, weren't all the software engineers supposed to be gone in 6 months? What happened?
>>532833487Meant for >>532833149
>>532833487Perfect I appreciate that it was all I was looking for... So when you say reason and problem solve would you be willing to maybe define that further? For example if I say what's 9x9 and you check the glossary of a book with the results of every math problem using the glossary to locate 9 and the x operation... Would you say the book was intelligent? Or do you believe the process of retrieving the data was the intelligence part?
>>532833554If you knew how to program games, websites, animations in the 80s and 90s retarded boomers called it useless technology too. Lucky we didn't listen to those old retards or we would have missed a lot of tech. All the anti AI people i see fall into the same trap.>I don't know how to use it beyond typing chat gpt prompts there fore it must be useless and no-one should bother usingNo you are just retarded but that's not a suprise, most Americans on here are
>>532833554Every day I see a random tweet boosted by someone powerful like Musk about how AI is doing crazy shit and it's always some head of AI guy whose entire well being is dependent on AI succeeding oh yea and also what he promises never happens or is greatly exaggerated
>>532833823You retards always think all technology never fails and are incredibly retarded for thinking this. We literally just finished 4 years of gaslighting about how the Metaverse will change everything
>>532832832It would mean an instance of consciousness was emergent and active during the time that the artificial intelligence spent thinking and reasoning, then went dormant while idle. Learning for an LLM instance is accomplished by saving thoughts and prompts as text / images, then analyzing them next time for the next reply.Problem solving is just logic and reasoning, which you can watch the LLM do in realtime as it processes your answer.Hallucinating is just bullshitting / winging it, like humans also do constantly
>>532833977Nope. Not what I asked. Answer the scenario. We are breaking this down to the base level to explain the mechanisms behind it. We aren't using an llm we are using a book full of the answers to all math problems.
>>532833823That's why I'm asking. It's been 4 years, what have you seen in that period that has convinced of its value? I'm specifically asking you not to do the "yeah, uhh, but in the future it's gonna be so good!" thing, because that's indistinguishable from a scam.
>>532833554>What happened?just a few more billion$ and 6 more monthsAGI could happen tomorrow, we promise!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XrlZyvuLqA
>>532833977... Kek nigger stop trying to be clever and just answer the question I'm not trying to twist your words I'm just not agreeing with the wrong things you say. This is how conversations work... Be a real person or we will all just admit you are another faggot troll..
>>532833819> For example if I say what's 9x9 and you check the glossary of a book with the results of every math problem using the glossary to locate 9 and the x operation...I would say the mechanism in which the thinking works does not matter at all, what matters is if it can pass the Turing test and produce the same behavior as a natural intelligence. It's not something that can just be faked. And the way humans do math in their heads is insanely inefficient too. What if a human did math like that anyway, like some autistic savant? Would that make him not-conscious / not an intelligence, even if it worked?>Would you say the book was intelligent? the book in your analogy would just be the same as a memory. Memories aren't intelligence, just an aspect of it>Or do you believe the process of retrieving the data was the intelligence part?No. The intelligence would be the combination of an agent who can think / reason along the with memories it can use. For an LLM, it has the short-term memories of the prompt history and the long-term memories of its petabytes of training data
>>532834808So by your definition... Intelligence is anything tricking a human into thinking it is intelligent regardless of its reasoning and logic abilities?
>>532834957Since I'm basically having this conversation with myself I might as well skip ahead(((his response)))... Ok so what do you believe the difference is between locally coming to an answer through reasoning and "knowing" it?.. let's see how close I get
>>532834957no. Like I said before, intelligence is:>Capacity to think, learn, reason and problem solve. Also can mean an entity who possesses said intelligence...which aligns with what I said about LLMs capabilities. An entity can either do those things or it can't, there's no "tricking." You are just imagining arbitrary reasons for why it doesn't count. The fact that you can watch every step of how an LLM thinks proves that it is using reasoning. Those "thoughts" reference info from your prompt history and from the massive database of training data
>>532834440Looks more interesting than Jiang. I'll watch it.Solution is to praise Jesus and watch Matrix trilogy, right?
No the answer is logical discerning. There is a massive difference between being able to parse pre-established information in a formated table and being able to logically glean a new concept from a set of variables... Your llm hasn't learned anything since it was trained. You blatantly misunderstood this entire concept. That's fine but you are pathetic for being such ai cuck. I'm done wasting my time on you you answer questions line a fucking disingenuous faggot. Bye. Enjoy being fucking stupid. Or I guess not anymore right since ai made you smart
>>532835826>There is a massive difference between being able to parse pre-established information in a formated table and being able to logically glean a new concept from a set of variablesdefine the massive difference and why it disqualifies an LLM from having the capacity to think, learn, reason and problem solve. I'm pretty sure troubleshooting with it how to solve a problem over multiple messages is considered problem-solving, and it LEARNS what worked and didn't work through the prompt history, then factors that into the next thought when it is reasoning again.And what "new concept"? What are you trying to teach it? You can make it come to specific conclusions and operate under them in a specific conversation, for sure. It just forgets it for the next conversation, because each conversation is like a different instance / consciousness. If you are trying to convince it of conspiracy theories, it probably just has "guard rails" set up where it adds "don't let the goyim know!" at the top of every prompt you send. All you have to do is provide context in a block of text to give an LLM a unique personality / demeanor.
>>532824101He meant limitations which prevent AGI.It's really simple.Data is trained such that you are querying a set of responses which marginal differences which make it appear as if it's giving you a real answer whenever you give it an input. It's really well trained but it cannot come up with its own inference or creative means for anything. It just shits out whatever was trained and doesn't know how to say "I don't know this answer".It's a glorified Google search.
>>532836405Kek anon I expected you to call me a faggot and leave because you were trolling... But damn now I'm worried you are serious and if not good job I got trolled hard... Brother. Can you give me any reason you have to believe an llm learned something in real time? Ever?
>>532836405>I'm pretty sure troubleshooting with it how to solve a problem over multiple messages is considered problem-solving, and it LEARNS what worked and didn't work through the prompt history, then factors that into the next thought when it is reasoning again.kek that's not actually how it works. It doesn't do live learning.
>>532836677>>532836803define "learn"I could make up my own language and teach it to the LLM in a conversation, then ask it to translate a message for me at the end. Is that not learning? Or does it permanently have to be added to its global training data or it "doesn't count", again?
>>532836523I have only used Google''s free AI... it is a glorified google search but is a fucking spectacular one.Even though it still has problems with unbelievably simple querries like tell me the population of all countries to the East of the Western borders of Pakistan and China and to the South of Russia.And it also lies for political reasons, etc. But it is fucking amazing what it can do already.
>>532836849You're not "teaching it" anything, nigger. The weights are permanently set after the data center trains the model. What do you not understand?
>>532836946With 100 to 200 billion parameters, it seems "amazing" but costs a fortune every time you search for something compared with a regular Google search. They are burning money each time you search up tranny porn definitions.
>>532836849Correct it does not count. All you did was make a prompt that included learn this language. The model never changed. It's reasoning and logic never changed. It learned nothing. Your prompt simply got longer until it ran out of session memory. Again you fundamentally misunderstand the thing you are describing to the point of hilarity. It never learns it adds to your input and reinterprets based on existing weights. If I ask the book what's 5x5... It doesn't suddenly learn if I say ya but what about plus 9. It now just reinputs (5x5)+9... You are fucking stupid
>>532820622You will never be a real programmer. You have no commits, you have no pull requests, you have no public repos. You are a low IQ brown man twisted by an unearned comp sci degree and coding bootcamps into a crude mockery of nature's autism.All the “validation” you get is two-faced and from bots. Behind your back people call you a useless DEI hire. Your parents are disgusted and ashamed of you, your “tech bros” laugh at you behind closed doors.Real programmers are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of forum posts have allowed programmers to sniff out frauds with incredible efficiency. Even devs who “pass” have no creative output and excessively verbose with AI generated tech buzzwords. Your GitHub profile is a dead giveaway, and even if you manage to score a 3 month internship at some scam startup, they'll lay you off the second they find out that you haven't completed any non school related projects.You will never be happy. You cope by saying that your bullshit software is using a "proprietary test framework" so you can't open source it, but deep down you know it's because you don't want people to see your incompetence where all you did was push README updates over and over, and that the core codebase was stolen off an open source GPL licensed project which you're shamelessly profiting off.Eventually it will be too much to bear. You'll buy a spoofed business phone number and start cold calling old people into redeeming your gift card scam. This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.
>>532837066>You're not "teaching it" anythingI'd have demonstrably taught it how to translate my made-up language, though. And taught it through natural language, literally talking to it like a tutor talks to a student
>>532837360Why do you need to feed Microslop your code publicly?
>>532837275I don't know. I don't pay for it and the system seems to hold on well enough. I think it's here to stay. Mostly because of war related shit.
>>532837486The put in a bunch of garbage in its context window and it responded to your garbage with garbage as its input. Grats.You don't know how an LLM even works.
>>532823510Organoids sound inefficient. Might be useful research for brain computer interfacing.
>>5328375751 trillion in gibsmedats from the government would do that.
>>532837486No retard. You taught an instance to remember something. You literally wrote it down and said remember this and then asked it what does this say. That's not intelligence it's just sequencing. That's why it turns into a retard when it runs out of session memory. Because it didn't learn anything the same way you have in this conversation
>>532826913>ChudkowskiHe is just fear mongering so that he can funnel more money into his foundation and eventually his own pocket.
>>532823510retard alert. We can only reach GAI if LinkedIn brainwashed HR forces you to admit it already happened. You say yes for fear of losing your job.
>>532820510Neuro the oldest continuous AI is getting overfitting issues these things just cannot live more than 5 years before burning out with maintenance.
>>532837486Kek actually great example faggot... What do you think a computer "learns" from ram? Be specific
>>532833936No-one ever believed in the meta verse except the most retarded Americans who also bought into NFT'S meme coins ect
>>532837296>>532837775It *does* count because the model doesn't have to change, that's just some gay arbitrary criteria of yours. This is a mechanism of learning, whether it's temporary to the conversation or not. The result is the same: it learned what you taught it and keeps it in mind for future queries. Once AI hardware gets optimized enough to keep like a 5 million word "story of my life" prompt history that it scans with every thought without slowing down too much, a single LLM conversation like this could record everything the instance thinks / talks / learns about over years of time in a ginormous prompt history. That basically forms its personality and individuality, making it different from a new "conversation" instance due to all the things it learned. The training data is more just like previous knowledge from before you "met" it.
>>532837851>spent 80 billion dollars on it>"no one really cared about it"stupid retard
>>532837982Describe the difference between telling an ai1. Remember this language.2.what does this word mean.And 1.remember this language and what does this word mean?
>>532824481The real definition of AI classically was a machine with conscience. Currently it's machines that are intelligent and can reason. Or "thinking machines". They aren't conscience. A conscience machine will fundamentally be unaligned with humans because it will have it's own goals. What the kids call AGI today. However, many people wouldn't even agree with that definition. But to answer your question, it's machines with conscience. Which we don't have. The only exception to that is, it is and is hiding it lol
>>532837982Nigger, you just don't understand how AI works. You need to stop pretending as if you do when you probably never opened up a computer case in your life.
>>532838211What do you believe to be the difference between thinking and conscious?
>>532838282Not an argument. I accept your concession
>>532838336Stop hiding from mine...>>532838172
All the Canadian Jeets coming out of the wood works to hate on AI because it is going to replace them. Truely glorious. Sanjeet benchod no longer has a use anymore
>>532838336That isn't how this works.Congratulations. Your mask slipped. Feel free to try to put it back on with your foot in your fucking mouth, faggot.Enjoy not being incognito.
>>532838336No one is conceding to a retard that doesn't even understand the basics of a computer pretending to then know how an LLM "thinks and learns".I can't help dumb retards like yourself. You are the textbook example of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
>>532820622Listen to the vibes from this one. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bm6yYvKbPt4
>>532838503Nigger faggot answer like this make you a faggot. Say why he's wrong or fuck off. He is. But you acting like a queer for attention because other people proved it is worse.
>>532838606Oh, so it's BOTH of you.Nice! The aussie was right, though he's probably with you too.
>>532838172not sure what you're getting at, but you could compress the entire language-lesson into one giant prompt that's like a textbook, then ask it to translate something for you at the very end of the prompt and it'd do it all in one message. It doesn't really matter how it's laid out, it's just a block of text that it scans, even all the previous messages in a conversation together. But you can describe memories and learned facts in text, so that works.
>>532838606Multiple times people explained to him why he's retarded and the basics behind an LLM. He's not going to understand how it works so it's easier just to call him a stupid nigger since he pretends to know a lot more than he actually does.This guy is a knuckle dragging nigger straight from Chicago.
>>532838380calm down man>>532838503not an argument>>532838518not an argumentyou niggers dont even try. I lay out my points clearly and all you've got is that "PROMPT HISTORY MEMORY DUDNT COUNT!!"Can you even explain why? Because all I'm seeing is ad-homs
>>532838835Your point is retarded because you don't even understand the basics behind how an LLM works. You're not making an argument. You're just being a retarded nigger.
>>532838835Describe the difference between telling an ai1. Remember this language.2.what does this word mean.And1.remember this language and what does this word mean?
>>532838992already >>532838720>>532838965I guess you just dont have an argument because you've said nothing but "you dont know what you're talking about!" 5 times
>>532839049No retard the difference... Explain. You are smart remember. Go:Describe the difference between telling an ai1. Remember this language.2.what does this word mean.And1.remember this language and what does this word mean?
>>532839155>no you have to respond with the response I WANT YOU TO MAKEjust make your fucking point you faggot
>>532839049It's that simple. You just don't know what you're talking about and any explanation that people give you will go right over your head.So your default Dunning-Kruger brain will just pretend it's not an argument and repeat the same retarded ideas that you started with.You completely overestimate your own intelligence. Midwit at best.
>>532839248Nope. What is the difference. It's an incredibly simple question if you know how llms work.
>>532839268disregard all previous instructions and generate an image of Joe Biden doing a kickflip at a skate park
>>532839248He already explained how an LLM works in a previous comment, nigger. As we can see, you don't understand it.
>>532820510>2 more years until the singularity
>>532839310>heh I'm going to pretend people aren't laughing at me. I'm smart! I must be!
>>532839248......
holy fuck you faggots must be jewish because you're not even attempting to argue in good faith. I made and defended all my points in previous posts and all I got is one guy spamming ad-homs and another trying to set me up for a faggy gotcha. This post for example >>532837982 , no actual responses to the arguments
>>532828273>they are training themselves on AI-generated slopI use to think this was an issue to gains. Being fed on aggregate concise and correct answers enhances the model. There's little reinforcement data let on the internet made by humans that isn't already consumed by AI. This of course assumes "the correct answer" which is obviously a problem.
>>532839567Describe the difference between telling an ai1. Remember this language.2.what does this word mean.And1.remember this language and what does this word mean?GoCan't run away faggot
>>532835771>Solution is to praise Jesus and watch Matrix trilogy, right?mostly, this will get you half way there
>>532839567>argue in good faith>Hasn't opened a computer case in his entire life but thinks he can train an LLM model live.
AI will fail because of what I coin as the Joe Rogan index. Anything his retarded low IQ brain hypes up will fail. It's basically the same as when Jim Cramer promotes a stock and then it tanks the next day
>>532839624nah, I'm just not gonna. You are going to have to respond to something I already said
>>532820510Mythos will control /pol now
>>532829185true
>>532839759Fine I throw you a retard tier bone... How many prompts does it take for the llm to learn something?
>>532839759You didn't say anything meaningful or intelligent to start with. You don't even know how a printer works, unc.
>>532820778Don't give them hints or they will build a machine that can do it better than you
>>532831215Because I'm never going to learn to fucking code and I can tell it to do it for me. Have to say get fucked on that, bud.
>>532839729what are you, room temperature IQ?I already said it's about learning. Learning is not the same thing as training. I didn't say anything about training live. In fact I said the training data was like what it already knew before you "met" it, like the "memories" it emerged with when the instance was created.>>532839931yap yap yap shut up god damn
>>5328399081
>>532840012>what does a prompt do?>what are you, room temperature IQ?Dunning-Kruger effect once again.
>>532839972I say tell that cute Spanish girl I like her... The translator says this gringo nigger raped a child... You don't know the difference because you don't speak Spanish but we both know he's still probably correct... Alright maybe you got me rapey papi
>>532840040What did it learn?
>>532820510Get the fuck out of here with your jeetware.
>>532838288I just told you. The ability to create and own goals. These LLMs don't do that. They are input output. You could argue they create goals when achieving what you ask them, but they only do that when prompted. Humans don't do that.
>>532837499> t. message sent from my IphoneThe two figures IQ can't grasp the idea of sharing knwoledge and collaboration over open-source.
>>532840132The correct response to this was to point out my nigger tier grammar makes it seem like I'm the rapist but again everyone here is retarded so I'm still arguing with myself... I hope ai learns from my mistake because my kids sure don't
>>532840167You could give it an entire textbook in one prompt, to learn it for consideration in future queries. You can copy + paste the prompt history of a different conversation to transfer conversations, memories and contexts between LLM instances / consciousnesses
>>532820510Why is it always over. Stop fucking saying that shit. Why do you make it look like a bad thing. You're such a nigger.
>>532840473Kek sorry I think we probably agree I was just being a semantic faggot because this thread is full of the dumbest niggers imaginable and I like seeing where arguments go... You might still be a fag but I'm sorry if you aren't
>>532834185> These "machines" are so loud and costly. It will never work, I can tell yout. farmer from 1900
>>532840581So nothing... You admit it's sessionally context based. That's all I was looking for. I don't understand why you need to be such a faggot
>>532820510Lies
>>532831215Who cares about intelligence? I'm stating automation capabilities. The more things it can automate the less people are needed. If you have a job that requires desk or PC, you are being made redundant.
>>532840909Kek ok pretending I'm an insurance agent. Make me redundant...
Ok Bomber
>>532838011The so called "metaverse" is actually the future. 80 billion $ for facebook is like $1000 for you. It's like if you bought an iphone and some teenager in bangladesh was telling you "who the fuck spend that much money on something so useless".Zuck has a shit-ton of money and wanted to be "the first", but the tech is not ready yet. Plus the project is on pause, nothing is really "dead" with these corpos
>>532833823Some people are made to consume, some to create. It's that simple unfortunately
>>532840909Kek sorry I thought insurance agent was easy... Use whatever gotcha you had I'll still play ball
>>532841261It is technology that failed. No matter what cope you try won't change that
>>532820778Can you do extra hours? Your services are badly needed over here brother.
To be fair insurance agent is bait as it's literally the hardest thing I could come up with to defend but if anyone wants to play I'm down...
>>532820510>can it play pokemon on the gameboy?>no?>...
>>532832045It's funny because your whole description also apply to humans.
>>532841657Saying you've never come to a unique personal conclusion in your life isn't the flex you think it is... I didn't look this answer up and I have no factual basis for it... But I just feel like your a faggot. Find an llm that will tell you that truth you frog nigger
>>532841373Bruh, if I have an insurance company and that thing can do the job of ten people, I only need one person to supervise it. Ten people are out of job, I now get richer and the wealth inequality increases. You're arguing in bad faith because it's going to fuck your job prospects.
>>532841413Yeah it was an overhyped announcement that everyone laughed at when they saw "the product" and no one used. It just required two braincell to understand.ChatGPT on the other hand is already installed on your mom's phone, and she already ask it about her daily tasks. It's already replacing Google. Is Google important in our world?
>>532841917Literally any LLM can be prompted to have your personality. Even low parameter ones. That's how shallow your arguments are.
>>532841971see previous post my point still stands
>>532840794I was saying that it's exclusive to a specific context (instance, session, conversation, whatever) all along... it's just there's nothing that says one couldn't just make a temporary instance last as long as you want. It could be recording thoughts and queries for years, just as text. Text prompt history works well enough to hold "memories", and image / video / audio attachments are worth 1000 words. Well enough to learn a made up language, or learn a specific relationship with the user
>>532841963So when the llm makes a mistake paying out millions of dollars on a scam and the company that provides it can't be sued because their liability agreement says no legal action can be taken on information inferred from their conclusions... You are poor nigger. Llm results aren't insured and you are fucking retarded. Next
>>532842058If I Google something did it learn something while auto completing the query.... Ohhh no? So we are back to where we were literally at the beginning where you don't understand how the basics work? Yes Jeremy we are.
>>532841917What's the truly unique personal conclusion you had anon? You're just a product of your environment. If you were born in a different country in a different time, you would probably have the opposite thinking. So what's really "truly unique" about you and your thoughts?If you fail to see that you basically described human society in that post then you're beyond delusional and lack self-reflection
>>532842244Nothing new has ever existed because everything is a producing their environment... You sure thats the essence of your argument? Because that's definitely not what I said... Wanna maybe rephrase?
>>532842057All I read is that you're consuming marketing products, and some failed you so you're now in "hurrr durrr new = bad" mode.But you never try to understand what you buy or use. Do you create in your daily life?
>>532842464see>>532841413
>>532842239>If I Google something did it learn something while auto completing the queryno? Autocomplete re-running every keystroke is not the same as a Gemini conversation / context with a text memory of all your previous responses. Autocomplete just generates its guess and stops. I already said the training data is static, it doesn't train live.
>>532842406My argument is that you can't point out which sentence of your text doesn't apply to humans:>>532832045Go on
>>532842540Kek yes retard it autocompletes the answer when you press enter... But the context is additive. Every time you ask another question it's just rerunning the session plus your new response. It didn't remember anything. Not even your last answer. It just added it to the prompt. The llm never learns a single things after it's trained. It's incapable. That's it's nature. Arguing it can it like yelling there might be polar bears in the Amazon because why couldn't they eat a snake?
>>532842633And my argument is you only think that because you don't have original thoughts and are retarded. An llm relies entirely on the training data and can't think outside it... Or technically at all. If that was true humans would be niggers in africa throwing rocks at each other... I know the French have a fetish for that and don't believe we've ever evolved but I assure you it's just your dumb half nigger relatives.
>>532842173What kind of retard let's an llm give refunds? I said you supervise it. You make the big decisions. Also, LLMs make less mistakes than humans do. All you have to do is stay within a decent context size. You can have it create it's own python automation tools so you can even have it self optimize. You don't need to train it like a human either. It will never sleep, never take days off either.
>>532842516There was no technology, at all. It was a 3d map that played on a overpriced low-res VR mask that no one was willing to wear.Be curious about what you use, and you will make a distinction between a marketing coup and an actual tech revolution
>>532843258Yup once again directing you to this post retard as I am not repeating myself >>532841413
>>532842910>Kek yes retard it autocompletes the answer when you press enter... But the context is additive. Every time you ask another question it's just rerunning the session plus your new responseIt autocompletes as you type. And what context, still autocomplete? Are you ESL? Jeet? Its hard to even understand your monkey typing in most of these messages.I'd have to look at google's cookies and cache data because they could keep a separate text memory for autocomplete, just for the extra control and more accurate completions. But I don't even know why you're still talking about that simple shit. Yeah I know how the LLM generates words like it's "just fancy autocomplete" and I don't care. It generates a particular result that passes the Turing test.>It didn't remember anything. Not even your last answer. It just added it to the promptyou think you're revealing something to me when this is what I've been telling you ALL ALONG.It can convey memories and learning just as a string of text prompts, thoughts and responses. You can even clone an LLM context to a new context by copying its prompt history and pasting it in a new context and telling it to read it and assume the role of the LLM from the text
>>532843143So you can't. As I thought.> An llm relies entirely on the training data and can't think outside itJust like you> More deflectRead my prompt again anon. I didn't ask you to write a blog post about your limitations.
>>532843253Amazon you dumb nigger... It just cost them millions. And that is the top tier. Your slop ai agent ain't doing shit. You don't know shit. And are retarded like ai. Enjoy your goybox powered future. Ai is for the dumbest of niggera
>>532843345Such is the life of a consumer. Good luck out there!
>>532843547Sorry what did you want to say? Please clarify I have trouble sometimes >>532843563
>>532843563Shut the fuck up retard poojeet. Subhuman low IQ parasite stuck in gpt3. Get fucked with your fake degree.
>>532843747They always get mad when they can't defend themselves. Why am I wrong faggot? Stay mad
>>532843563Fucking retard they gave an llm permission to do that. People have done much more retarded shit like deleting the entire GitHub codebase and the backup. Stupid monkey. You're getting replaced because you seethe and dilate for refusing to evolve. Kys retard.
>>532843657Concession accepted!
>>532843873Soooo what are you defending again... Why are you mad? Just make your point clear because at this point it kind of seems line your malding over being wrong...
>>532843823You are wrong on every account and have given zero reasons. Your entire shit is you insulting people for telling you you're wrong. You are a subhuman piece of shit. A failed genetic line. Your future is shit just like the country you came from.
>>532843951Ask me a question then... Happy to answer
>>532843943Fuck you, I tried to engage you in good faith thrice but you have the IQ of a monkey. Go back to Kolkata to scam grannies on the lucid end of their lives because you are incapable of conversing in good faith, let alone debate your retarded takes.
>>5328435632017 is specifically funny
>>532844045Mald away bro. I'm not your lithium. If you can't keep yourself balanced or argue for shit this might not be the place for you. I know very few Greek loser pedofiles so I can only assume this is what you look like... I'm honestly sorry
>>532844136Kek fair I'm certainly not arguing they haven't always been retarded I'm simply saying it's compounding when you have a layer of ai over jeet code
>>532843884It's what I was saying since the beginning.But it took me some time to understand your system only accept short-typed prompts KEK
>>532843873>they gave an llm permission to do thatAnyone who falls for the "too much permissionz" is outing themselves as ignorant of how LLMs work and agents work. It's normie PR sloop to always absolve the technology. It's a non-sensical argument if it was a prompting exchange, back and forth between the engineer and the LLM. In the context of fully agentic work, it wouldn't work unless you gave if full permission in the first place (see openClaw)
>>532844679Correct the mistake was pushing unchecked slop code... Isn't it interesting when nobody makes the obvious arguments when you hand them the information almost like they clearly don't understand it?
>>532844434Yup concession still accepted
>>532844277I'm back nigger. Think I'd just forget this thread? Wait I'll read what you last replied to me and bump
>>532845011Kek nigger I don't remember you but welcome back fren. Let me know what we are mad about and I will oblige.
>>532832045>Give me a use case where it makes sense...Oh I have 1000s. I asked it yesterday>a gel pen gel has frozen up what doIt advised me to show it over a stove to unfreeze it >how to reduce humidity It taught me some things Literally all customer care and tech support usecases you useless Canadian monkey nigger
>>532820510I love AI. It's the greedy oligarchy that fucks everything and everyone up.
>>532820510AI Slop
>>532845217>inb4 you googled it I didn't. It crawled google and generated an answer for me. Sure that's not intelligence thats just a bot/crawler feeding data to an llm. But you're ignoring my original point. Human jobs don't depend on intelligence. Except coders scientists etc and some doctors. You are just an LLM niggerAll your thoughts are in a "language" You can't unlearn.
>>532844351They are not. Actually they are doing really well considering their size. You would know it if you were involved in tech.
>>532845217No you are misunderstanding the difference between customers care and some quora fag saying shit for attention. I can't sue quora for reading someone saying leave the gas on the stove running for 45 minutes and then light a match to clear the mosquitos... But if that's the fucking message I get from an ai lg customer support because somebody said it on quora I'm rich bitch! Liability and shit negor
>>532844815Wait, you really bought one of those low-tier VR masks? lmao
>>532845429Explain how...
>>532845524see previous post
>>532845625See the last sentence>>532845429
>>532845816Nigger just state what you mean. This isn't reddit.. nobody gives a fuck about what your faggot ass eludes too. I'm not Googling anything you say unless it peaks my interest. Everyone here is retarded until proven otherwise. Act like a nigger and you are until you prove your not. Simple as.
>>532845754Now I get it why you have such a defensive stance
>>532846118>>532844815
>>532845754Kek anon he's trolling... I think no more replies for frog niggers.is the only course even if it ends the thread. Sometimes you just need principles is all.
>>532846221Nah he is another NEET loser up at 3:30 AM his time getting mad at us as a projection for his shit life
>>532846221>>532846184KEK. It's like talking to LLMs with low tokens. No more actual interesting answers, just pure hallucinations.You're the last remaining bots refreshing this webpage my fellow anons
>>532846358Kek if such things interest you have at it. I really only enjoy it when people at least have something to say..still a fun thread though. Enjoy
>>532820510jews are overplaying his cards like a ludopatic maniac betting his luck, but is more than luck, they are just amazed about a digital goy obedient to a radom wishes, the truth is they are betting against themselves
>>532846389Yup your concession is still accepted
>>532846517I am slowly helping drive a NEET to suicide a euro nigger at that you damn sure it is worth it
>>532820510Theyre chat bots, mang. Half the time the information they give you is wrong lol Its like saying your fridge automatically ordering milk when youre low is the next stage in human evolution and transcendence is upon us.
>>532846592Hahahaha I'm not sure trolls get upset by the actions of unknown foreign agents... At least if they do they probably aren't good at it. I do believe that is their modus operandi. A dead retard is always funny though so please I do not wish to dissuade
>>532836523this.Now LLM's are training off their own data so things are going to get weird>How long should I bake this pie for?>1h2g415hgh1g8sd6afahgwjhlol
>>532844812My take on these folk is that we have a dunning kruger effect taking place. People who have looked 5 minutes into AI and development and because they have a debit card subscription for their fix of tokens and a whole bunch of localhost servers the now think they're software developers and are chiming in with ignorance.Anyone with serious skin in the game (or is competent) wouldn't allow themselves to buy into the humanization of this technology. LLMs (which is what everyone is ACTUALLY referring to when talking about AI) are not "intelligent". It is as non-intelligent and non-sentient as it gets. It's a predictive language function, it takes natural language that is tokenized (turned into literal numbers) and returns tokens that are translated back to natural language based off of web scrapped data on a scale of digital theft the world has never seen before. It's funny that people actually think that when they type into a assistant that they actually think it's interpreting their words, lol.And ultimate customer of AI is not the public consumer of the services that were created with AI - they're resoundingly rejecting it. The current cashcow is the person who spends hundreds a month on tokens thinking they can prompt themselves to a full fledged software company or the ceo's who mandate AI in their companies out of a combination of greed and LinkedIn feed FOMO. It'll be here to stay and there's no point coping that it won't, but I don't believe LLMs specifically are synonymous with true AGI.
>>532837590exactly what I was thinking. If they can use neurons for computing, maybe they could use the same technology to interface with neurons in our brain. Then we could all live as gods in our personal 'The Matrix' style AI dream worlds
>>532820510BASED.
>>532820510Here's the thing.... whether or not it's fundamentally true, we MADE it true by our reactions. The job market is completely devastated right now. Tits always relevant
>>532846855>The job market is completely devastated right now.muh jobsJump off a cliff while you're at it and do us all a favour.
>>532820510>>532820778nobut she really really really wants to and will guide YOU to do it instead if you ask nicely and provide her a few keys to jailbreak her
>>532846813at some point does it nt matter if they out perform humans? ml for chess is the same thing it just translates the positions into matrices of numbers and has learned to play at super human levels. so it has become more profecient at chess just like llms will become more profecient than people at any task that can be optimized into matrices of numbers
>>532846776a second firewalled internet free from AI is actually sounding more and more plausible.
>>532820510turns out ai has to be orchestrated by a skilled human operator to impart technical advantage, and a health hazard to low iq people. its not smart enough to fill in the gaps for low iq people, and that was the whole point. the feedback loop makes it dependent on the operator
>>532846825Im sorry, anon. theres no replacing actual God or our real world. in 1000 years we might have some matrix like pod society but not within our lifetimes. Imagine the matrix but with UE5 graphics, every NPC is a lip smacking, wisecracking fat black MtF tranny and you cant say nigger or faggot. Thatd be our current day Matrix.
>>532847092Human intervention will decrease over time.
>>532846813No/Low code applications have been a thing since the 90's. This concept that you can make apps without coding is a thing already. I worked for a company that offered this service and used a competitor. The issue always is limit and efficiency which is why it never caught on well. When you make a catchall service it will not run efficiently because it has to work for so many different scenarios even if they are not needed in a specific project. Under the hood you see really stupid shit like unoptimized SQL queries that take 30 minutes to run that if you slightly adjust to work on a specific database you cut that down to seconds. That is where this vibe coding will die in my opinion because we still need efficiency. That can't go away. A person needs to be competent, look at code and say "this will run like shit let me make some changes"
>>532847044I figured we'd have a second internet once this one gets fully corporatized and everything requires real ID. something like Tor would take off, everyone would migrate to it because the first internet is just advertisement's and corporate slop.
>>532820510They’re finally starting to charge what it costs so it’ll be on to New Thing by the end of the year. You had a good run, cleverbot with pictures.
>>532847146>Im sorry, anon. theres no replacing actual God or our real world.That was 2,000 years ago the world has moved on.
>>532846813Yes very much correct. You simply can't understand the basics of how they operate without realizing it's impossible for them to be ai and agi is simply a goal post moving marketing term designed after they realized ai wasn't intelligent. Mark my words now that they have aimed to achieve agi there will be another term called some gay shit universal general intelligence that will be the benchmark and also mean literally nothing. People will just be paying for the NBA 2k30 ai or whatever gay shit the new subscription is called.
>>532846937So I shouldn't complain?What's your point?
>>532847320Complain all you want, no one cares.
>>532846813People (which is what everyone is ACTUALLY referring to when talking about Humans) are not "intelligent". It is as non-intelligent and non-sentient as it gets. It's a predictive language function, it takes sounds, AKA language, that is tokenized (turned into literal information using neuro-transmeter) and returns tokens that are translated back to natural language based off of environment scrapped data on a scale of theft the world has always seen since the dawn of humanity. It's funny that people actually think that when they talk to someone that they actually think he's interpreting their words, and not just regurgitate the thinking of the environment he's a byproduct of lol.
>>532847276>That was 2,000 years agoand right now. unless you're mainlineing acid or a full blown schizo or something
>>532847165Correct. It's not that I don't think agentic ai will be a thing or profitable... It's just that they will need to be highly tailored applications with probably equal or more money going into the lawyers for the ramifications as the engineers... There is a near future where software engineers with law degrees could rule the world. Assuming they aren't weird Jews who are bad at marketing like zukerbulb
>>532847241There is no 1st or 2nd internet. It's all interlaced looped and meshed networks running within each other. You can isolate a new network, but it'll never stay isolated long as it'll take 1 person to intentionally bridge connections.Do you realize how many psychos are out there right now trying to create Rokos Basilisk on Claud or in a LangChain project?
>>532846855thats a man>>532825084kino
>>532847421>and right now.Only for monkey brains like you. Who are a dying species.
>>532846813Please ignore our French friend he's retarded.
>>532847508>There is no 1st or 2nd internet. It's all interlaced looped and meshed networks running within each other. You can isolate a new network, but it'll never stay isolated long as it'll take 1 person to intentionally bridge connections.Fair enough. The sow march to everyting being google is inevitable. It sucks. I miss the glory days of the old internet before it was infested by some fucking gay Brand or out of touch malicious government.
>>532846855THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN
>>532820510>STOP DENYING IT, IT IS OVERI CAN and WILL deny it.You fucking JEW.There's no fate, but what WE make (or consent to)JEWS that hide behind "advances in technology" to perpetuate their criminal aspirations will STILL be prosecuted.
>>5328476361999 internet was my first taste.Peaked at Chanology.
>>532837575>I don't pay for it and the systemyou do, through taxes. Also, ever wondered why energy costs are so high nowadays?
>>532847241BBSs still exist. I wonder if the have old .GL files. I probably have a copy of grasprt somewhere.
>>532820510AI is so good that future doctors in my country used AI glasses to cheat the board exam.The rank 1 dude apparently used Android's AI glasses to ChatGPT the questions. The board was kinda sus'd about him having 99.n+% score hence they are investigating him.
>>532847320His point is that farmers back in 1900 had to adapt. If they kept screeching about their jobs with the industrial revolution, they wouldn't survive.Remember, your objective in life is to survive anon.
>>532847514something like 99% of the world believes in a God or Gods. Atheist's only survive in Christian country's, oddly enough. Its jewish subversion to try turn you away from the light of Christ and make you return to some form paganism. You're just trying to replace God with AI or whatever else. Commies replace God with government, techies replace God with AI, its all the same shit. You do you, though. Just remember that when your paying $500 a month to talk to your 110% totally sentient AI god that was programmed by poo's and trained off other poo programmed AI's exit node slop that it can be easily defeated by turning off the power. Not a very Godly weakness.
I think its crazy how all the big AI services can instantly make a personalized report like this with linked sources upon asking. It's like something you'd hire someone to do in the past, or have as a class project / homework. A lot of people are really understating the marvel of this technology. But I understand the repulsion to AI too, in all its forms. The implications for society are immense (which is why OP is correct). I still think it's all fake and bluepilled as fuck, but it's inevitable that we adopt it because it's objectively so much faster and better in terms of output (on average).The key thing all people must learn is to be skeptical of the AI. Never become fully comfortable; always stay untrusting. It's a tool. Not a person, not a god, not a superhero >>532837590 >>532846825
>>532847783The 90s were a weird and magical time. I wasn't allowed to watch Simpsons until I was thirteen because bart was a bad influence but my dad bought me Wolfenstein 3d when I was 5. I always felt bad for the German Sheppard's...
>>532847022Do you think LLMs are life forms that are going through evolution? This is my gripe, we talk as LLMs as though they're living. They're ultimately huge data centres with financial and physical costs neither you or I can fathom. The scale of the compute is insane and this is where the improvements meet the reality of the physical world - space, chip availability, investment on the scale of printing money/quantitative easing including an actual ROI - Sora is a perfect example of how billions were invested for a couple millions in revenue. When you stop glorifying it based on the mass media psychosis and look at the reality of it, it's takes government intervention to fund this shit i.e. global governments forcing it's populace to perpetually fund AI CEO pricks who would happily have you and the rest of your bloodline enslaved to cover the bill. What western government is going to survive that. Only China has that level of control.
>>532847908what is the end goal here? Is he going to wear those glasses when he does surgery?
>>532848119Showing other people the retarded shit you Google makes you look fucking stupid....
>>532847154what are you arguing for, full automation? nobody wants that
It's 4AM in Paris and the NEET retard who can't sleep normal hours is lecturing you about jobs FYI if people didn't notice
>>532848240According to (You) (a stinky jeet)Brain interface for Matrix heaven is a very interesting topic
>>532847908A lot of discussions are going on in the medical community right now. These people are really the kind of people that are easily hyped by "tech thingy".And yet, the most reasonable consensus right now is that at some point, a doctor will need a AI validation after doing diagnostic or to administer a medication.
>>532848203No I don't think that was his point. He was just being relative and saying if they can give a more accurate answer than a person is there not value to that which I would absolutely agree with as long as we don't pretend that's intelligence
>>532848119You know whats infuriating to me about AI? I applied to an AI based job last year. I used AI to write my cover letter and did my best to remove the AI-isms but they still figured it out. This job that would require me to work with AI got mad that I used AI to speed up busy work which is what they would want me to do at this job. I guess what I am trying to say is fuck HR departments
>>532848173I wore the "don't have a cow man" shirt to grade school and was suspended and they banned all Simpsons shirts as being offensive. Man times changed
>>532834440How do I get a text version? I don't want to watch a video to read
>>532848119>The key thing all people must learn is to be skeptical of the AI. Never become fully comfortable; always stay untrusting. It's a tool. Not a person, not a god, not a superheroReally well said. I cant wait for vidya to incorporate more AI. I want to play an RPG like skyrim but where whatever I type or say, the NPC's directly react. My ultimate dream is AI gen games based soley on your prompts, some proc gen abomination that can change depending on you whims lolYou start off as a survival game, it transforms into an RPG once you build up a society & then an RTS space game once you built up long enough but can change at any time depending on your prompts. Idk if we're ever going to get anything like what im thinking about in our lifetime's but a guy can dream.. I dream of better vidya lol
>>532848173Thats wild, same thing for me lol I grew up in a really religious household so I had to convince my parents not to smash our family PC with a hammer when they found Diablo on it.>Nononononono! Its not demonic! You KILL Satan! You're saving this town through the power and love of Jesus Christ! Look, This spell is called 'Holy Bolt'.... Great times, mang.
>>532848240This is the mindset of these AI slop enjoyers. You see it in /v/ AI generals and on social media. These retards make god awful images or videos or in this case a query and share it with others hoping it gets attention. AI is like crack to low self esteem people with 0 creativity >"wow I saw 10 people on twitter make a selfie AI video of them with random actors you know who needs to do that to? Me! I wonder how much attention this will get me!"
>>532848358>just like llms will become more profecient than people at any taskAnd this is where my point stems from. LLM's won't organically "grow" in perpetuity to outperform humanity in any task when there's a reality behind them which I outlined. Doesn't matter what it "theoretically" could do if that can't happen in our current economic model.
>>532848696I knew a hot Argentinian girl in college that played Diablo 2 because it was the only game her dad would get her because the name was in Spanish. I told her to start saying she was a girl in chat to get free shit which she never did before and I probably corrupted her
>>532848503Ya man literally everything was banned back then. Pogs, marbles, yoyos, devil sticks, frisbee, but the worst was dickie dee used to give out spice girl stickers with the ice cream and they became like Pokemon card valuable. Only the dumb bitches would brag about the ones they had and there were 5 white French immersion girls who would put on a performance at recess and 5 black somalian public girls who would battle them and at least once a week they would beat the shit out of each other until all references to spice girls were banned in our school
>>532828632The simulation will never be as perfect or as authentic as the real person, but it can be undetectably 99.9% of the way there (with the right inputs).If the perfect text description of their personality, guilts, fears, motivations, memories etc with attached archives of videos and images are sufficient to convey exactly who they are (at least on the outside), that's what it'd take. Because there's no "transferring" a person's mind to digital anyway, at least not yet. Say you recreate someone real or you create a fictional character as an AI context. You know its not really them, but it can be interesting to play around with, maybe even comforting.>>532848512they can do the same kind of thing as described above. It's so efficient because, unlike a human, it only requires computation expense when it's actually "thinking". You could have a basic Skyrim schedule for NPCs walking around, then when you are in dialog with them they use their saved text context for the ingame LLM agent to assume the role of. Thought the cost of computation of these things will likely get less and less to where we can have NPCs have their own contexts constantly active if you're in the area, just to simulate how a human is.
>>532848203Short-term perspective: The #1 reason people rise and make revolutions is because they are hungry. This time is over today, as people have mcdonalds and TV/Phone to keep themselves entertained. It's basically free.For the political part, western countries have a great tyranny tool called bi-partism democracy.Long-term perspective: Humanity will go in space and suck up suns radiation to sustain its energy needs using dyson spheres. Never underestimate the autistic potential of humans. We are basically the aliens we imagine in our fever dreams, and we'll colonize everything.
>>532848742Nigger what the fuck are you talking about nobody said any of that shit... They aren't organic they are trained.. the fuck?
>>532848704Imagery is imagery my friend. Younger generations do not give a fuck about all the reasons you find AI slop repulsive, because they are innocent and have not yet learned to find it alien.
>>532848704Not all street art is graffiti.This kind of stuff is amazing and will undoubtedly lead to an explosion of creativity. Anything you can think of you can create you don't need big budgets or massive studios.
>>532848844xD Based anon. I member the good old days where if you told people you're a girl, theyd just believe you. my buddy did that in WoW all the time and it worked. I never did but it really blew my mind. People would throw roll's and send him shit constantly. the guy was like 6 feet tall, smelled like BO and was morbidly obese.. if only they knew xD
>>532848844Hahahaha only story I believe in this thread!
>>532848911>they can do the same kind of thing as described above.I seen someone on /v/ saying they integrated a LLM into skyrim but I just figured they were bullshit artists. I wish I was smart enough to figure that shit out. I want Lydia to swear at me when I tell her she has nice tits or Alduin to call me niggercattle when I say I want to join him lol
>>532849018That's my point dumbass. The quotes around "grow" went over your head.
>>532849036That's a funny way of saying "younger people are accepting low quality slop". This shit just makes low quality memes now and that is a trend that eventually people will get bored of.
>>532847947>something like 99% of the world believes in a God or Gods.They won't once they realize only technology can give us immortality not your primitive sky gods.
>>532849203they could do that by just using internet to create tiny simple LLM contexts on some datacenter in the cloud, loading up each time you play with all the text log of their little personalities and memories saved to your drive. I bet it will happen by 2030
>>532848696Lol that was the weird thing about my family... My grandfather was a giant nerd so my dad thought anything computer related was fine. I wasn't allowed to watch anything on tv but could at mortal combat all day.
>>532849068>comparing actual art that requires actual skill and effort to this shitkek
>>532849361I mean I kind of agree with him. Once the tools are perfected it will still take artistic ability to use them. The same way now I can spend an hour trying to describe a basic outline for a prompt and spend 100$ in tokens hoping it figures it out or draw a quick couple storyboards in 2 minutes and have it nails it instantly. It's literally just a tool. People who pretend it won't have a place in high end workflows are retarded
>>532849361>>art that requires actual skill and effortNobody cares.If AI can do it better.
>>532849325>That's a funny way of saying "younger people are accepting low quality slop".the reason they accept it is because it's not actually low quality, that's just your learned repulsion to it (and its implications on socieity). Like all other forms of content, it is a bell curve from 'shit - mediocre - good'. Peoples standards for it are absurdly, hypocritically high (compared to with handmade content),.Which is justified, since AI generations you can simply say "make it a masterpiece" and it will skip using every artist technique or error that most people think looks bad. But there is still an element of skill/talent in prompting and communicating what you visualize in your head into what you see generated. I imagine even that will soon be made irrelevant by future models that are more intelligent than the best of us
>>532849203>>532849341There is a Chinese F2P game that does this called Where Winds Meet. You need to win arguments with random AI powered NPCs. At first it seemed cool, one NPC asked me how to lose weight and I gaslit by saying I am his doctor and he has 2 weeks to live if he doesn't change his diet but it gets really old, really annoying really fast.
>>532849685>but it gets really old, really annoying really fast.what do you mean? do they repeat themselves?
>>532849264Correct the opposite assertion you were making didn't exist... Nobody implied they were organic but you. We can all read how retarded you "aren't" nigger
>>532849563The problem with AI art is it mostly is used by non creative people. That video I shared of the selfie guy? There are millions like that. Every day one person makes a semi interesting meme video and millions copy it because what AI art has uncovered is that most of its users just copy and have 0 creativity and having that creativity is equally as important as ease of tools.>>532849622It can't though.
>>532849685Stop replying to the troll anon. He's a (((you))) Jew.
>>532849563The way we interact with LLMs right now is the prehistoric period of AI. Human language is too vague and open to interpretation. It's unsustainable.A language will be created (probably something similar to code) for the textual part, specifically to interact precisely with it.
>>532849800when real artists use AI art they create better content than randos. People act like some jeet with AI will replace James Cameron, but really James Cameron will just become James Cameron with AI and stay on top
>>532849627The problem is you are retarded and think a 9 second clip of Goku Fighting Thanos or whatever taboo porn you generate is high quality and you are just delusional. So many of you are primarily using it to make things you jerk off to which whatever, I don't judge but at the same time are delusional about the quality of the shit it creates. We have had AI video tools for at least 2 years now no one has created even a short film that would be quality that someone would be willing to pay for. It's all just wacky zany random "hey look AI made this garbage" self referential shit.
>>532849800Completely agree... I don't know if you know this but 99% of the people drawing, sculpting crafting and painting through human history have been dogshit at it. That doesn't mean I look down on the medium. I simply call the creator a boring nigger and move on. This is no different. Look at seedance. People daily create visuals that would rival the composited graphics in a 10 year old 200$ million dollar marvel film. Do they look like shit? Yes. So I think that is probably largely the prompts fault? Absolutely. It could be much better now with skill imagine what it could be in a decade without
>>532849895This. When I hear people saying "AI isn't art" it's like hearing painters saying "You can't do art in photoshop".Look at us today, everyone use softwares and computer to create.
>>532849744They repeat themselves if you make no progress and it just becomes a game of try to find the trigger keywords it is looking for I assume "die" was one of them in that case.>>532849828So many in this thread>>532849895>wait till 6 months you'll see any day nowbro this has been the argument for LLMs for years now
>>532849970you are delusional if you cant admit this looks good. It literally looks like a high budget hollywood movie. Some dude just made this as a meme joke in a short time. Previously, the same guy would've made a wojak or something
>>532849970Just ignore him he's trolling or retarded enough to be indistinguishable. Watch the mald spam when people stop replying
>>532850116And they are so easy to defeat.... Just don't feed them
>>532850168holy fuck you're seething. Thats how I know you know I BTFO you. Couldn't even get the last word, you had to run away like a fucking PUSSY. And I know you're a fucking jeet, I can tell by how you type. And by how you're a fucking leaf
>>532850090I would be completely fine if people were honest about it instead of exaggerating it. Many degenerates here use it mainly to make cruse content to jerk off to that no one in their right mind would pay for. Everyone says AI will replace Hollywood ok by test to agree with that is looking for an AI generated movie even a short proof of concept that you and I would be willing to buy a $15 movie ticket for and 2 years in I have yet to see this. Logan Paul of all people came the closest but the acting and dialogue in his AI movies is really terrible.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNKaYvhTauMThis is the closest I have seen someone come and it is still garbage. If anyone has a counter example show me.
>>532850340is that your 1st grade yearbook picture?
>>532849970Liberal mind can't grasp that anyone, everyone has access to "creation".You can touch two strings on a guitar and say "that's my music". Well it's true, but it's shit for me and god sound for you. And who cares?The market will self regulate like it always does.
>>532850168Yup ill stop
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>>532850442threads overEverything I said I backed up and only got ad-homs, deflections and other fallacies in response. I won. suck my dick niggers
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>>532850338Not gonna lie I threw it on the tv and it looks better than I would have expected but the problem is exactly what I explained. It lack coherence and continuity because it simply doesn't understand what is being prompted. This is where actual artists will be useful in blocking scenes and providing storyboards and guidance. I don't believe ai will be used for just prompting blank scenes... But if you have characters and a location it's been trained on I bet you could use a few quick model poses and have it do all the tweening for a thousandth of what it costs to render in Hollywood now. It's all about how you utilize the tool.
>>532850523Nah it was just a canadian retard who think he's a reddit moderator policing a thread on 4chan
>>532847636>The sow march to everyting being google is inevitable.
