What do you think about criminal psych ward for the psychotic and violent versus jail?I'm defending the right to go to a psych ward thats criminal for the psychotic and violent because I know how it is and know it's not my fault for some behavior when psychotic because my brain breaks and becomes unfunctional. Schizophrenia is more disabling than some cancers if enough delusions and hallucinations and psycosis is present. It's not made up, but can be faked. Then there's that quote that goes something like >It's better to have 1 guilty man go free than 10 innocent men be imprisonedWhich I agree with. I hate unjust punishment or treatment of those who are not at fault. I dislike unfairness. Especially voted on unfairness. ILocking some psychotics away is for the safety of society, in a psych hospital not a prison or jail. I understand this as a person who suffers from a psychotic illness.I'm a schizo, how it actually works is your brain breaks. IQ goes down and you think people are doing things they arent or people are trying to kill you or mind control you for real and it's real as fucking fuck, or you think people are gonna jail you for nothing. Some of you may not understand psychosis possibly because you never experienced severe psychosis. You can actually believe people are government agents or fallen angels trying to kill or torture you when they're walking around doing nothing in reality . Because hallucinations trick you, delusions make you randomly believe it or intense paranoia.The brain gets really broken when psycotic. Like, the brain breaks fully. The brain breaks to the point it's not your fault any more, you're responding to delusions and hallucinations and cannot tell what is really going on.1/2
>>532823507How about the wood chipper?
>>5328235072/2And I don't actually know why the black guy killed the uniramian girls if it was delusions that made it his broken brains fault instead of free will evil malice. I can't read his mind. I read he had previous reports to the police that manmade implants were inserted in his body with out his consent. I've experienced delusions like this, I spit at the police and called them spics, niggers, and yelled at them and fought back because I thought they were putting chips in my brain to control me or working with the NSA who did it. I sounded like a complete sane asshole just yelling racial slurrs and hate but i was responding to genuine belief the cops were NSA agents and fallen angels unjustly trying to execute imprison and fuck with my head. I just yelled names and tried to be as big of an asshole as possible because I hated what i thought they were doing.I no longer think this and am on meds now.Luckily I'm doing much better now.
There is professional help. Go seek some out. It can be free or reduced cost.
>>532823702Already getting it, thanks for attempting to help me.
>>532823555How about throwing hateful fucks like you in the woodchipper because of your completely controllable healthy hateful behavior?
>>532823507Send them to an American city and sit back and chillax
>>532823842Intelligent asserted gentlemen like me are the reason you have technology, food, and toilet paper to wipe your butt with uwu
>>532823507>>532823601The earth is flat and stationary with a dome anon. It's all in your head and none of it is real, it's all a big joke and the joke is on you.
>>532824044I'd rather farm with nice people and have no video games or toilet paper than be around hateful retards like you. I've been homeless with no phone. It is not guaranteed hell to not have technology. Looking at nature is nice. Dealing with people like you isn't
>>532823507>>532823601I hope you'll be alright anon because I hate unmedicated schizos.Unmedicated schizos need to get shot.Niggers are literally too retarded to function in a White society and them being niggers is not an excuse. Likewise, a schizo who refuses to take pills, his dysfunctional brain is not an excuse.The society is sick when it's built entirely of dysfunctional individuals. We should make no effort to build it of such.
>>532823507In context of US?The mental ward is worse than prison and if you get cleared out you still get to go to jail, what sort of question is this
>>532823507>Locking some psychotics away is for the safety of society
Schizophrenia is real dude. People will jail you for nothing. They do want to kill and eat you (epstein files much?) . Paranoia is just awareness not a mental illness but I do get what you mean. When it makes you dysfunctional, but in this society dysfunctionality benefits one more than being functional, mentally. But you want to change the law enforcement, the "system" Itself ? Lol never gonna happen not unless you pull some abe Lincoln level shit
>>532824044You will never be white. You made none of those things and literally subsist on vampirism, and get your kicks picking on mentally ill anons. You are actually fucking sickening to consider you could actually be my neighbor.
>>532823507my man you really do not want to go to the looney bin even if jail is the only other option
>>532828166I've been to both. Jail has way more potential to be worse.I was beated by a group of white supremacist gangmember looking inmates for saying schizo stuff and refusing to get into the shower within 5 minutes of being in general population. I think the guard said they might be "pekcerwoods"Next time I was in mental health unit and it was at least fair and minimal violence but some people still hit each other.The psych ward has better food, potentially TV just like jail day room, and potentially less violent people.Why do you think the psych ward is worse than jail?
>>532828619You had one chance to be gay as fuck without anyone in your circle knowing about it and you blew it.
>>532823507Unfortunately, if you want special accommodations you basically just get prison minus the ability to interact with other inmates. Solitary confinement.That or you have to be drugged into stupification. Neither of these seem better.By your own admission, you are a danger to society with zero control over that danger. You need to be isolated, zombified, or removed. What else would you even propose?
>>532828619>>532828993Speaking of, the only reason for your schizoness is your pent up repressed sexuality. Some people have higher powered nervous systems and more potential (capacitance) electricity stored away. When all that goes to your brain you start deluding yourself. >the cureI recommend you wank it to porn 7 times a day. Or at the least 3 times a day. Consume at least 100 gb. Buy dvds etc. After a month of this you will notice all your schizoness are gone, the hallucinations need energy to harvest without it they won't work. Hobbies won't work. Therapy won't work. Sexual drains the only way. Or go to prostitutes. They too will help.
>>532823777try clonazepam if your panicky and get overwhelmed
>>532829195I don't think I'm a permanent imminent danger. But I get your point.Well I wish there was an option to live in the psych ward with a gaming PC and private property with internet and to keep SSI money to buy games and commissary food and items if a schizo wanted to go to the assylum for the safety of scoeity.I'd actually consider it if i had another episode if I could bring my gaming PC and have leisure.But i'm not going to willfully commit myself and go to psych jail just incase. I'll just take my meds and not go outside.I've already started to go outside less since my last episode. I've realized I have the potential to be dangerous if i am delusional.I'm not experiencing dangerous delusions currently.
>>532828619Because being in a psych ward means you're dealing with people who have carte blanche to administer whatever medications and treatments they deem "necessary" and to hold you in there indefinitely with near complete impunity. So the "bad end" in a psych ward " is way, way fucking worse than getting beaten up by some thugs in jail.
>>532824044>and toilet paper to wipe your butt with uwuimagine smearing your shit around your arse hole and crack with a paper towel
>>532828619>>532829643And I mean don't get me wrong, if you've had (relatively)good experiences with psych wards before I'm glad for you, but you absolutely will not have any recourse if you get abused by the staff. Doubly so if you were committed for paranoid and delusional thinking - they can just make the case that you're being delusional again.
>>532823507People think pleading insanity is better than jail, but it isn't. Its worse, so much worse.In the looney bin you have no rights. If you start to annoy tge nurse they can put you in a straight jacket, sedate you, and put you in solitary confinement for years... because its not a punishment, its "treatment". They can cut out parts of your brain. If you don't behave they can do any damn thing they want to you, unlike prisoners who still have some civil rights.Worst of all... you aren't in there for a fixed number of years; you are in there until you are better (forever). A doctor needs to sign off that you are cured and they pretty much never let someone who is criminally insane out. Its too much of a malpractice risk if they relapse. The government pays them too much to keep the nuts on ice. They can be used for human experimentation no questions asked.>t. Worked with those involuntarily committed. You don't want to be there. It is literally hell.
>>532823507I've toured several jails. They all have a wing dedicated to the true skitzos. The ones that will shit on themselves, drink their own piss, smear their shit on the walls, scream all day and all night, kill themself with anything they can find, kill you with anything they can find, store semen to make semen soup, ect. These people are completely off their fucking rocker and cannot ever be allowed outside a cell. After seeing this, the medical defense doesn't make sense to me. Is there another prison that houses only skitzos? I don't know. I do know that regular prison has skitzo wings in it where this guy would be right at home. But its still in the prison. Its a fucking cell just like all the other cells. It has glass walls usually and doesn't have anything that can be used to kill yourself with, but its still a cell. If that nigger spends the rest of his life in one of those cells, then its no better than regular prison. In fact its way worse in my opinion. I personally think we should seal up all the prisons and gas the people inside, but that's just me. >tldrThe "medical" wing of prison is fucking horrible. If that is where he ends up, its the same or worse than regular prison.
>>532823842I'd rather throw lazy and/or criminal fucks into a woodchipper.
>>532823507>What do you think about criminal psych ward for the psychotic and violent versus jail?jail only reinforces mental problems and adds a shit ton of new ones. Psych wards for criminals are probably worse. It's fucked that people get punished for things beyond their control instead of help. Wish you the best and pls don't mind the other anons shitting on you, they're probably just bitter or dumb kids. Godspeed OP
>>532830477>I've toured several jailsHow tf do you do that? Need a jail touring loicense or something? How's that allowed unless it's part of your job.
>>532829488I'm curious if any European countries or Canada or Australia or Asian countries allow people to willfully long term or permantly go to psychiatric asylum with private property private clothing personal computer, getting gifts from family and their disability money to spend on stuff still.Like if a schizo chose to do that instead of be a risk to the community. If a schizo volentarily did it, I don't see why you couldn't have a gaming PC you bought yourself and other luxiries, especially if you're doing it to keep society safe.The psych ward though is like jail-lite from my experience and I'm considering it could be worse and I got lucky due to other anons posts.My idea seems fair to me. I understand why they'd not allow it if it's a punishment asylum but even in volentary wards you get jack shit.I volentarily went to the ward for 2 weeks before due to voices and I got nothing but a few pairs of clothes. Coudln't even use my own phone. Not allowed to even smoke any more.Did state aslylums used to be like this before they were closed in America? I know state asylums existed back when computers didn't exist though
>>532830797Thanks for the good wishes. I hate punishment for things beyond people's control or things people are not at fault for too. That and tyrants and unjust authority are what I hate most.
i thought of multiple funny jokes to make but i'm afraid you would just take them seriously.please avoid this website as much as you can. it can make healthy people go crazy, let alone medicated cases like you
>>532829488Cool, so you just want to be a ticking time bomb in society and also not get blamed for what you do.Congratulations, you are a nigger.
>>532823507disagree, if i were to be locked away i'd prefer jail over the forensic psychiatry.imagine being poisoned into the state of a vegetable by some quacks and not know the end of penalty because some quacks determine the release
>>532823601Glad you're doing better, Anon. Got a friend who's a paranoid schizophrenic, not sure the meds are doing all that much for him. Who knows, he might be off much worse without them. Still, it's been sad to watch over decades.
>>532823507Execution
>>532823842The gentleman have spoken and so their digits kek
>>532831606If you were in my situation you may do the same. Lifelong self punishment because of an illness that's incurable? Versus take meds in society, and try your hardest to not destroy property or be violent and risk it.You'd willfully imprison yourself with no freedoms basically, no smoking, no drinking, permanently just incase preemptively you did something violent if you were schizo? Permanent commitment is a long ass time. And life no longer becomes fun for many people. The psych hospital feels like a vacation and can be fun for 1-2 days due to talking to new people and getting decent meals but it feels like jail-lite after that. It sucks.I've been in jail and the psych ward. Both suck so badly. I prefer no car only backpack genuine homlessness.But I have no desires to hurt anyone or myself. I'm going to learn my lesson and stay on the major tranquilizers and keep away from people because I had a bad experience trying to integrate with society due to my voices.I don't think it's unreasonable if a schizo voluntary committed them selves for them to get their personal property in the ward. I'm not going to self punish to make others safe though.
>>532832275>If you were a nigger, you would do the same.Heartily agree! Now go be a nigger in prison.
>>532831381It's cruel by design. Because at this point I think if people had the option to go live in a Judge Dredd style iso-cube but with a few basic "luxuries" like a gaming console(even a shitty one), a lot of people would choose that lifestyle over the rat race. And that ain't conducive to keeping the system alive.
>>532831381>willfully long term or permantly go to psychiatric asylum with private property private clothing personal computer, getting gifts from family and their disability money to spend on stuff stillnah, not really. There are some options that are less severe than full mental asylum but you don't go there if you don't have to.
>>532823507rather go to jail.
>>532832275i don't get your advocacy for forensic psychiatry.if i were to choose between jail and psych ward i'd choose jail anytime,because 2 reasons: a)no unlimited arrest b) no forced treatment,no quacks.forensic psych ward is a severe violation of human rights and you are advocating and "fighting" for it?you don't seem very bright
>>532833123I've been to involuntary psych wards and jail.Jail was worse. By far. Jail is worse by quite a bit.You are given shitty meals that starve you in jail, theres physical fights over nothing, and you have to shower around men if you want to shower, and your in dorms with 50 cellmates or a cell with 1 cellmate all like within 3 feet of you.In ward the roomate is 10 feet from you if you have one.Just going off personal experiences.Jail sucks big time in America.Have you been to the ward or jail?
>>532833380>Have you been to the ward or jail?no.but if i had the choice, i'd still choose jail anytime instead of being a human lab rat without any rights left.as another anon already said ,prisoners have rights,mental "patients" don't
>>532823702I thought about it and id rather be in prison for murdering you then give a fuck what you or any kike says.
>>532833380I always just tell them to put me in safety lockup in jail, that's fine. Being in genpop is hell, but being in safety puts you with all the pedos, at least you don't have to talk to them. I get books in jail, i don't get shit in psych.
>>532833745I'm going off going outside and real life not theory.I'd rather take fucking thorazine and get injected by a nurse with a needle in my arm than get injected with white supremacist or nigger cum up my asshole and infected with HIV after getting almost beaten to death.I got told "to get into the fucking shower" by 5 men and resisted and coudla died from the beating. the guards just watched from the camera until it stopped and then i took the first deal from the DA to not go back even though I had a high chance of winning because I hit someone second, not first. I just hit them harder than they hit me.I would rather take anti psychotics than be raped in general population. The guards don't protect you, they watch you die or get your ass beat and come in after it's done, or at least did to me.There's also a shitload of supervision and patroling guards in mental health unit of jail, while in general population it's a dorm of all races and the guards don't come in unless there's a fight or something, and patrol far less frequently. I fear general population as a schizo, as soon as i talked about "angels" and refused to get into the shower the beating started
>>532823507I got a better idea: the insane asylum.
