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>>532837081
Massive inflation
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It won’t ever be fully paid off. But for paying interest (which sustains demand for bonds) that can be assisted through economic growth + taxation. So long as economy grows, America gets more revenue to pay interest payments, so long as America makes interest payments investors think American bonds are a safe bet for safe returns and will buy them, so long as people buy bonds America can continue to borrow

Sneed
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>>532837081
TKD
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>>532837081
saving money and living according to your actual standards and not illusion created in a couple of post-WW2 decades, i.e. poor-ass latinx shithole filled with niggers and rruled by kikes, corporations, lobbies and special interest groups.
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>>532837175
austerity like cutting the defense budget and budget control measures
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>>532837081
America doesn't have any national debt, that's an accounting of money stolen from the American People by Jews.
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>>532837787
/thread
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>>532837081
Assassinate all of the Jews that hold bonds
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>>532837081
gonna be $100bn/mo soon with the war.
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>>532837411
>just grow the GDP some more bro we can do this indefinitely it'll never go wrong bro just grow some more lmao lets lend some more money we can just grow the GDP some more later chill out ok bro
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We'll just anal-gape with JDAMS and Tomahawk anyone that comes to collect.

What are they going to do? Use the chink money Yuan? Switch to shiny rocks?

America's Financial System moggs any other financial system harder than our military would mogg theirs.
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>>532837081
Serious pension reform, serious benefits cuts, and serious military cuts. Either directly or through a giga print and inflation.
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>>532837411
retard alert.
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>>532838051
Please no, Last time that happened Hitler killed like only 6 Jews, and now every history book says its like 6 million gorrilian Jews were exterminated, I cant take it no moar.

Like I know now that in 20 years from now there will be stories of how America Sent out the I.C.E execution squads and they dragged people out of homes and executed them in the streets.

I say just win the Power ball a few million times..
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>>532837081
You have to do all 3:
1. Cancel Iran war
2. Raise income taxes on everyone, especially rich people, by a lot
3. Carefully make sure you don't cause massive unemployment (like don't do a bunch of retarded tariffs, or start a war in the middle east to raise gas prices), stay steady for 50 years
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>>532838215
the majority of that debt is held by americans you retard, what are you gonna do, nuke yourself?
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>>532837763

kek.

Do you have any idea how much the national debt is?
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>>532837081
Reduce the deficit and then wait 30ish years
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You have to cut SS, medicaid, and medicare.
At the very least, my sincere, sincere plea to anyone, ANYONE reading this is to look at what the spending breakdowns of the U.S. federal government currently are. Every discussion I have with people makes it apparent to me that the numbers they have in their heads haven't been updated for 30 years.
>>532837175
Nope. COLA is built into the law so it wouldn't help. You have to cut SS's COLA at least.
>>532837411
Can't grow out of it. Medical spending is over half of the federal budget and that's growing faster than inflation.
>>532837651
Not right, not even wrong.
>>532837763
>>532838284
FY 2024 Defense Budget - $874 billion
FY 2024 Fiscal Deficit - $1830 billion
Every bit helps, sure, but please look at what the current FY federal spending breakdowns are. Defense spending is less than the net interest on debt. More importantly is that SS, medicare, and medicaid are LOCKED IN to increase their spending much more dramatically.
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>>532842836
Cont.
>>532838051
You'd still be left with SS, medicare, and medicaid.
>>532838284
>pension reform and bene cuts
This guy gets it.
If you read any of the actuarial reports from any of the major benefit programs of the U.S. federal government, they're all raising huge red warning flags.
>>532838545
>1. Cancel Iran war
Every bit helps, but the defense budget pales in comparison to the deficit, let alone the debt.
>2. Raise income taxes on everyone, especially rich people, by a lot
Two points.
If you REALLY want to increase tax revenue in the U.S. you have to do what every European nation has realized is the only effective way to dramatically increase tax revenue: VAT. Anything else is going to get Hauser law'd. I'm just speaking from looking at the data of what taxes actually increase revenues the most.
Second, even if I'm wrong on the previous point, if you don't adjust benefit programs on social security, medicare, and medicaid, per their own actuarial reports, you'll be left in the same hole in a decade. Your massive tax increase would only kick the can down the road.
>>532842362
Doesn't matter. Automatic COLAs would bring benefits spending up to a point that the deficit would blow past again.
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we all need to pitch in and help reduce the debt
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>>532837081
Sieze Jewish wealth.
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>>532837175
How would there be inflation if all of our debt was paid? Wouldn't we just start over?
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>>532837081
raise taxes on the rich
get the financiers to pay SOME taxes instead of being scott-free
stop being the world policeman
pay smart with single-payer healthcare instead of fattening healthcare pigs
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>>532837081
Scott Bessant has shorted $800 billion dollars in oil contracts since February 28, and oil will soon go to $200. That will put America on the hook for an additional $1.6 trillion.
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>>532837081
wiping out like 50% of the country
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>>532837081
Nuke israel, declare the Federal Reserve a terrorist organization.
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>>532837081
I genuinely don’t think there’s a non-hyperinflation way out of it anymore.
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>>532843007
Fundamentally, SS as it stands is unworkable. It's a shame that between the Iraq War and AARP screeching about a boomercaust, Bush's plan to privatize it along the lines of the Australian model would have probably done a lot to reduce the deficit, make SS viable, make SS work the way boomer retards think it does (an IRA instead of the entitlement it is).

Medicare and Medicaid are downstream of a comprehensive healthcare reform that should happen even if it wasn't of dire fiscal importance.
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>>532837081
>Greatest Genners start social security to provide a retirement plan for themselves and future generations.
>Their children bankrupt it before their grandchildren reach middle age.
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>>532837081
idk never shouldve raised the rates as high as they did shouldve termed the debt out when rates were at 0, amount of debt with these rates is the most inflationary force going shouldve just let the covid inflation run its course
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>>532837411
if you ask AI what would happen if we paid off the entire national debt over night, it basically says the world economy would collapse
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>>532838215
Are miggers really this stupid or just have no idea how international debt works?

>>532837081
Full cultural, political, economical and societal restructuring. Which will obviously never happen, so at some point China will acquire the FED and the debt printing jewish sorcery and print just enough dollars to be given to the US, so they could distribute it as UBI, so they could afford Chinese goods and the world economy won't shit itself. They will want an orderly transition into the Chinese world order and global hegemony, with the US as a great power and a good market, not a global collapse and recession.
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>>532843427
He could have also continued on the trajectory of deficit reduction that happened over Obama's 8 years. However, Trump is a 21st century Republican and they just cut, spend more, and have saddled us with a debt grenade that will go off in the 2030s.
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>>532837081
>What would it take for America to pay off our national debt?
a democrat
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>>532843113
The Jews have their money in other places Rabbis literally live in squalor and sleep on couches and shoot dope but have safes full of money and gold they literally tank their own credit scores and hoard money. Or purposely live homeless or APPEAR to be homeless. Here's a little redpill for you if you're filthy rich but dont look filthy rich on paper you win. Why do you think you dont see Rothschilds out doing interviews or public speaking or sitting with world leaders (there's a few exceptions. Everybody can do it too hell immigrants do it Indians and Asians and Mexicans spread money all over sending it around. White people dont do that, they were brainwashed to kick their kids out of the house, move into gated communities away from one another, not to treat their communities as a a unit (unity and communication = community) every other race does that except white people
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>>532837081
Take control of the majority of the world's proven oil reserves. This could be done by simply controlling the US, Canada, Venezuela, and Iran.
This would allow the US to corner the market and set the price of oil even more effectively than OPEC ever could.
The world currently consumes 100 million bbl of oil per day.
The US can start charging everyone $500 per bbl, for a net profit of roughly $400 per bbl. Even if the US is only able to sell 1/4 of the world's oil consumption at that price, it would still make about $10 billion per day. Just from oil profits.
That would be enough to pay off the entire national debt within a few years, and give every man, woman, and child in the US a ~$10k UBI type yearly supplement.
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>>532837175
Yep. Devalue the usd, print heaps of money, pay the jews with deflated monies; re-pump the money back up. Sorted.
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>Gen Z is going to euthanise the boomers, under pay millennials while gambling away their pensions and send zoomers to die in a war.
A little demand side Keynesian economics, tax billionaires and mildly increase property tax it's not that hard.
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Taxing the rich instead of selling bonds to to them where they get all the money back plus interest to raise revenue for the government with the retarded laffer curve bullshit idea that the economy will grow enough to make up for it as long as we never tempt the wrath our divine rich people with taxes and/or inflate our way out of it.
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>>532837081
Outlaw interest.
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>>532841881
we spend more than a trillion dollars annually on defense and adjacent sectors. slash aid to israel, cut down ICE's $70 billion budget that they piss away, etc and you will have a real start. obv miggers esp won't allow this to ever happen but it's not like a numerical solution is impossible
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>>532842836
you need federal sales tax
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>>532843790
>and give every man, woman, and child in the US a ~$10k UBI type yearly supplement.
Sorry anon, but that's gotta go to Israel. You know this, so stop being anti-semitic.
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>>532843159
>tax rich
Ineffective. In practice, the only tax that generates consistent income above Hauser limits is VAT.
>rich people don't pay tax
The top quintile of earners pay more than half of all tax revenue.
>defense spending
You could get rid of the entire defense budget and it would barely half the _deficit_.
>healthcare
As long as it doesn't have COLA, otherwise, same issues.
>>532843269
Even that won't work because SS, medicare, and medicaid have COLA.
>>532843427
That would've helped with interest payments, but we'd still be in the same boat because SS/medicare/medicaid payments would've still bloated up because--say it with me--COLA.
>>532843576
I think you're right. They're the only ones that have been able to touch SS/medicare/medicaid and been able to politically get away with it.
>>532843914
1 - I posted the breakdown of the U.S. federal budget.
2 - Even if the current year's number are wrong, it doesn't matter, because projected SS/medicare/medicaid numbers would make ICE/Israel/whatever spending seem like peanuts.
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>>532844217
VAT/sales tax would just kick the can down the road because SS/medicare/medicaid would just dominate the budget again later because of demographics. Also, COLA.
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>>532837081
nuking all of europe for being such fucking parasites
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>>532837081
the dollar collapsing
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>>532844396
all you have to do is pay more money into the loan then the interest. you just want an excuse to bitch about SS/medicare/mediaid
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>>532843314
>SS as it stands is unworkable
The biggest problem with SS is that when it was first created, the minimum age to start collecting benefits was approximately the same as the average life expectancy. Meaning that most of the people paying taxes into the system would even live long enough to start receiving payments out of it.
It was intended as an INSURANCE program for a relatively small number of people who would actually lived long enough to be too elderly and decrepit to keep working and taking care of themselves.
Overtime, people started living longer and longer, but the age when people start getting SS checks only increased by 2 years.
This makes it possible for a LOT of healthy, able-bodied people to "retire" and stop working and just live on permanent vacation mode for decades. A vacation paid for by taxing younger generations of workers who are struggling to get by.
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>>532844518
Yeah, it's almost as bad as the Yookay's triple lock on their pensions. However, we pay out significantly more than most countries pension systems. Instead of keeping the elderly out of poverty, it spends vast swathes of money on leisure for the wealthiest retirees.
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Reemployment Theodore Roosevelt's tax on the wealth of 94%. That created the strongest economy America ever had, with the biggest middle class.
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>>532837081
Unironically tarrifs.
If you know you know.
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>>532837081
>What would it take for America to pay off our national debt?
1, Boomers and fed bank accepting that 1/3 of the "debt" is a fraud.
2 . Accept that the other 1/3 is basically boomers paying themselves and into their own pension funds.
3 , Oil prices going up, so we can start making more billions of $ on oil sales.
4. Re-valuing the largest US gov holding, Gold.
Gold = $10k
5. US gov stock up on other assets, such as a crypto currency.
>bitcoin, xrp , etc.

6. Fire 1 mln US gov workers to balance the budget.
>we are half way there.
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>>532837081
The wealth of all Jews must be confiscated
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>>532844998
Tariffs are just a retarded VAT with a bunch of negative externalities, distortions, and growth suppression.
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>>532842836
All of this has invalid assumptions.
>>532845045

Also, what Trump is now doing , reduce healthcare to 1/10 .
Basically negotiate with drug monopolies (largest US gov expense for boomers),
and make them reduce drug prices to 1/10.
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>>532844800
I am pleading with you to please read some of the numbers of just how devastating SS/medicare/medicaid spending is. If I need to say I'm a complete retard, you're a genius to make that happen, I'll take the ego hit.
>It's the majority of the U.S. federal budget.
>Medical costs have outpaced every other category. So, what you're saying doesn't make sense.
>These things are tied to COLA, which means no amount of "grow out of them" will work.
>They're tied to the number of dependents of the system, which also means no amount of "grow out of them" will work.
>If you look at, say, the 2025 actuarial report on SS, it's going to blow up in short order.
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>>532845145
No, Tariffs are taxes on Boomer billionaiers,
and large /foreign corporations that outsourced work to China,
They now have to pay tariffs/ taxes when ships/ containers with chinese made trinkets land on US soil,
and not when they already hide profits in offshores.

There are trillions hidden by large corps in offshore banks.
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>>532837081
If you act NOW, you can save 6 trillion. Trump adds about 2 trillion a year. He costs the United States about 63 thousand dollars per second he's in office
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>>532845349
The last time Republicans cared about hard entitlement policy was under GW Bush. And AARP screeching about a boomercaust basically just let the issue fester for the next 20 years.

Pensioners, of course, have no incentive to start making a fuss about how much they're looting the working population directly, and making up the difference with debt.
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>>532837081
Tax unrealized gains on stocks. Increase the tax on land ownership. Close every tax loophole. Remove all tax incentives and tax exemptions. Shut down every government department that can't pass an audit -- including the military. Fire everyone involved in those departments and replace them with our broke college graduates working service jobs. Death penalty for cases of fraud and embezzlement of government-allocated-spending over $100,000. Primary education reform. Secondary education finance reform. Give the FTC some teeth.

Grant special privileges to those who work full time.
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>>532837081
Iranian and Venezuelan Oil rights
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>>532845666
It doesn't matter with how our biggest entitlements are structured. You're just killing growth while not actually addressing the fundamentally unsound entitlement programs of boomer luxury communism.
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>>532842836
VA WELFARE QUEENS ARE COSTING US $325 Billion a Year, and they are getting it tax free starting in their early 20's??
This is a bigger cost than Social Security.
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TOTAL
KIKE
DEATH
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>>532837081
Money is not backed by metals or oil, but only by labor.
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Blow up the oil in the gulf. America becomes the biggest producer. China kneels and begs for some oil. We nationalize our oil companies so we get cheap prices at home, that brings manufacturing rushing back.
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>>532842836
>And Trump wants to spend another $500b on the military
We're doomed
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>>532837081
extreme high level jewish tricks, some of the most beautiful jewish tricks available.
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>>532846060
China produces more power with solar energy then usa produces electrical power of literally any kind. China would just keep trucking. Might even sell its oil to the us for a price
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>>532846060
Dumb boomer coping. An oil crash would hurt murica the most. China has diversified sources ages ago, a reliable oil producing ally as its neighbor and shit tons of also diversified energy sources to rely on, including massive fucking amounts of coal.
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>>532845666
>Tax unrealized gains on stocks. Increase the tax on land ownership. Close every tax loophole. Remove all tax incentives and tax exemptions.
If you look at any data on what expected revenues will be from any kind of tax reform, everything you've suggested in practice will be peanuts--except maybe for taxing unrealized gains because I don't know of any test cases of that. If you wanted to do this by increasing taxes, the only tax increase that's effective is a VAT.
Even then, what you're suggesting doesn't matter because of how quickly medical costs have been and will continue to increase over average prices, COLA, and demographics that'll make SS/medicare/medicaid eat everything even more than they already are.
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>>532846060
>We nationalize our oil companies so we get cheap prices at home, that brings manufacturing rushing back.
Ha yeah right. Are you high? Thats the last thing that would ever happen.
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>>532845948
SS is way more than that. But sure, every bit helps.
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>>532845940
The intention is to fix the system because it is broken right now. No amount of "fixing" will solve anything because every dollar saved is a dollar wasted on a military contractor charging the Pentagon over $200 for a hammer, or some other egregious misuse of public funds. Fix the leaks, then you can fill the tank.
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>>532845666
>Tax unrealized gains on stocks.
No SATAN, we just want to tax stock options as compensation as Income, not some CEO gets a $1 salary and receives 30 million plus in stock compensation and pays only long term capital gains on it.
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>>532846289
you don't need to cut out medical costs nigga, just do a Public Option for health insurance which will help take the weight off a lot of people.
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>>532846427
No, dumbass. That's small peanuts compared to the simple math the people live retired longer, because of the boomer demographic glut, the number of retirees will increase, their pensions (financed through payroll taxes and debt), and because these SS and Medicare payouts are indexed to inflation you cannot grow out of them.

Would I like to cut down on fraud? Maybe reform the DoD? Absolutely. That's nothing compared to the cold equations of how boomer luxury communism is bankrupting us
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>>532846406
>SS is way more than that. But sure, every bit helps.
People pay taxes on Social Security, less than half of workers even live to collect it, they pay "into" it and then its only for a few years until most of them die.

VA Disability is paying 23 year olds $4500 a month tax free for such a duration of time that is 10 times longer than those who get to collect Social Security.
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>>532837081
>What would it take for America to pay off our national debt?
you should send more money to isreal instead. its the least you can do since the holocaust happened
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>>532846706
>People pay taxes on Social Security
Who gives a fuck? It's not like it's an actual IRA.

>less than half of workers even live to collect it
Which is already too many

> then its only for a few years until most of them die.
Try 13-14, with an exponential increase in medical expense in the last 2-3.
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>>532846848
Another 15 years and VA Benefits will cost as much as Social Security.
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>>532846848
>Who gives a fuck? It's not like it's an actual IRA.
No the Social Security pittance they receive is Taxed as Income.
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>>532846640
We need to discourage retirement. It isn't healthy, and it isn't sustainable. If there were good enough privileges granted to those who work, then we'd see the boomers you speak of contribute more to the economy. Perhaps workers should get tax-free stock trading.
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>>532847053
>We need to discourage retirement. It isn't healthy, and it isn't sustainable. If there were good enough privileges granted to those who work, then we'd see the boomers you speak of contribute more to the economy. Perhaps workers should get tax-free stock trading.
Before WW2 and the Social Security System there was no such thing as retirement.
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>>532837081
it's literally impossible since every dollar printed by the fed has interest attached to it. there's more money owed than there is money. audit the fed, end the fed, publicly execute every kike banker
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>>532846940
>VA...
I'm not disagreeing with you to get rid of that too if you can. I am disagreeing with you that that's going to be what resolves the huge fiscal debt. No matter what, you have to touch SS/medicare/medicaid.
>People pay taxes on Social Security, less than half of workers even live to collect it, they pay "into" it and then its only for a few years until most of them die.
O.k.. And? It's still the largest item on the federal budget by a mile, and it along with medicare/medicaid are projected to only grow in expenses the msot. I'm sorry I sound so arrogant here, but I'm begging with you to look into HOW MUCH they're projected to grow. They make every other budget item look like peanuts.
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>>532837081
As with all problems on this earth, it starts with the physical removal of the jewish problem from society. Then reprice gold at around $50,000 per Troy ounce. That is, assuming the US has any gold. It's probably all sitting in the great satan Israel though.
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>>532846640
You are the first person I have ever met in any one of these "What would you do about the debt" who has said:
>these SS and Medicare payouts are indexed to inflation you cannot grow out of them.
Thank you. Thank you for making me feel like I'm not completely alone here.
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>>532837081
>What would it take for America to pay off our national debt?
Stop electing Republicans.
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>>532845983
Nah money should be back by everything a resource based economy and labor is a resource and everyone should have similar power to get money without it having interest and having to go to a bank
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>>532837081
increase the tax base or cut entitlements, so there is basically nothing we can do
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we could probably pay it off just with gay sex
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>>532837081
>Interest Payments on the debt
already exceed annual fedgov discretionary spending, and fully half of the annual budget instantly is vacuumed up by them.
TL/DR half of what U.S. gov spends each year goes <boom> to the credit card payments
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>>532837081
outlaw usury
deport all of the non-European aliens
nationalist education
massive crackdown on crime
end feminism
promote massive baby boom
outlaw vampire capitalism ensuring good wages
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>>532847381
And the slopulist solutions here is always shit that fundamentally does not matter or makes it worse like "end the Fed, so President Peron can print his way out of it" or cuts to the 25% of discretionary spending while leaving the leviathan of SS+Medicare untouched. In part because they do not understand the relatively simple equations, and in part because the AARP and similar interest groups do not want the working population understanding how it actually works.
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>>532845145
Tariffs are mostly taxes on large internationals that can’t be avoided by shipping the problem overseas. We probably need a tariff on employment as well to cut down on overseas employment for work done inside the US.
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>>532837081
Dissolving the (((Federal Reserve))), trying and executing its shareholders, seizing their assets, and forgiving the debt.
>>532837411
>t. jew AI bot
TKD also solves these problems. Forever.
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>>532847799
Oh you mean like a VAT, but instead of being applied fairly and predictably, instead insulates uncompetitive and incompetent businesses from having to git gud by giving them a captive market?
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>>532837411
checked


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debt-to-GDP_ratio


The current administration's plan is to push annual GDP growth from its present anemic ~2.5% to the 6 or 7 percent range, that would (if achieved) *just barely* keep the annual $2T spending ahead of Interest Payments on the debt.
It's not appearing likely this annual growth goal will be achieved. U.S. Congress controls spending and it is their responsibility to reduce fedgov spending, not the president or any political party.
Since it appears that Bessent et al. aren't going to achieve their 'grouw your way out' goal the United States has about four years until Total Default for its treasury is reached.
Global bond market will have imploded long prior to that.
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look, the poors fell for it again and are going to have to get what they voted for. its kind of like watching the lemmings jump off a cliff.
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>>532837081
>>532842836
Even if we cut spending by 30% it would take 200 years to pay off the debt.
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>>532837081
>all right, we print money and give it to you and then you owe us money
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>>532837081
File for bankruptcy
Destroy the Federal Reserve
Kill every single jew
The order doesn't matter.
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>>532847985
Yes, it is uncompetitive. It’s not a VAT though, as it isn’t retarded and doesn’t apply the rules to local/national companies who employee your peoples, pays taxes to local/state and federal governments already, and doesn’t have as much of a COLA impact. Imagining you can play ‘fair’ when it comes to dealing with nation-states is the height of naivety. It depends on if one desires a population of investors that don’t produce anything (except financial products) and can’t defend themselves or if one wants a functioning country.
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>>532848423
As has been explained elsewhere, you cannot inflate it away because the biggest offenders (and drivers of the deficit) are indexed to inflation, and are not discretionary spending.

Get it through your head. The primary driver of America's sovereign debt crisis is its pension system, and because those payouts are adjusted for inflation, printing puts you back at square 1 as those programs explode to match your giga print. You need to completely revamp the way SS, Medicare, and Medicaid are funded and pay out.
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>>532837175
Bing bing. The reason we always "Want"(tm) 2% infaltion per year. Why jews are telling us that's a good thing. So we can partially pay off our national debt. Each increase in inflation is a direct attack on every American, especially the younger ones and the ones not yet born.
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>>532848767
Inflation doesn't really matter. See >>532842836
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>>532837081
They will never. Your debt - is socialist pension system. You simply tax people and make them store their money in pension funds, then pension funds are obligated by boy treasure bonds. You are allergic to have socialist system and high taxes, so they created a quazi market system where your money gets siphoned into the state budget anyway but in a form of debt, the kind that will never be returned. They don't need to return it, because your government and these funds CEOs are the same elites. Only thing they need is control inflation, because if USD collapses this whole system implodes. By only the external part of the debt 'exists', because external creditors can simply not buy the next round of bonds, whereas Americans' money will always be siphoned, because funds and banks are obligated to give them money buy law.
So you can rest assured, that debt doesn't exist (because nobody is going to return it), it's just fake emulation of socicalist pension system via kike magic.
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>>532847259
I think you have to very seriously ask "What is Social Security for?"

At the time, with an age set somewhat above life expectancy at the time, it was basically to buy out some subsection of outlier employed old people to reduce youth unemployment. If we were to do something similar, you'd have to raise the age to like 75-80.

Is it a program to alleviate senior poverty? If so, why are we paying out something like double what Australia does at the highest level (and because of how SS is structured, that highest level is to people are almost certainly independently wealthy and don't need an entitlement program)?
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>>532837081
Yeah thats because credit card companies are a rip off! They charge 30% interest and then when youre late they charge you $40! They charge you $40 so you dont have any food while they are sitting on their yachts sipping champ-pain. If you ask me their rates and penalties are way too high and way too immoral. Maybe if they would be fair then the US and its citizens wouldnt owe so much money and go broke.
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>>532842836
Will default on something on the lines of defense, social security, or debt payments.
My bet is, if orderly, social security, if not, on all three.
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>>532837081
Giving hundreds of billions to Israel might not help
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>>532843007
>If you REALLY want to increase tax revenue in the U.S. you have to do what every European nation has realized is the only effective way to dramatically increase tax revenue: VAT. Anything else is going to get Hauser law'd. I'm just speaking from looking at the data of what taxes actually increase revenues the most.
taxes tank the economy, strategically, would be a bad move, also, 1.8T in a 38T economy isnt that much, but cuntgress has to many expenditures already, and they would only increase expending if taxing more money, so no more taxes.
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>>532850359
You don't necessarily need to default. But you do need to stop the way it works perversely where you pay the richest retirees the most until everyone eats a 14-30% across the board cut. Don't let medicare advantage get spent on fucking golf and country clubs.
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>>532838284
>Serious pension reform, serious benefits cuts, and serious military cuts. Either directly or through a giga print and inflation.
better directly anon
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>>532838051
>Assassinate all of the Jews that hold bonds
only .8 of 1.8 and increasing due to debts and social security.
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>>532837411
>It won’t ever be fully paid off

All today bonds will be paid off in the next 30 years like the last 30 years debt has been paid off now.
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>>532837081
so exactly who is getting the 88 billion dollars?
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>>532837175
That's mathematically impossible.
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>>532850664
Bonds owners. Everyone can buy bonds. Japan has the biggest stack of us bonds but has been unloading since trump tariffs.
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>>532837081
Literally not possible.

>$0 in existence
>$100 loaned into existence
>must be paid back with interest
>$105 must be paid back
>need $5
>$100 extra loaned into existence
>pay back whole $105
>now have $95
>owe $105
>need $10
>$100 extra loaned into existence
>pay back $105
>now have $90
>...
>...
>now have $5
>need $100
>$100 extra loaned into existence
>pay back $105
>have $0
>need $105
you are here
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>>532850604
>>532850545
>>532850464
>>532850359
>The Argentine is given Americans tips on deficit reduction.
We're FUCKED.
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>>532837081
>What would it take for America to pay off our national debt?
Elect a bunch of antisemites and then do a constitutional amendment that declares the debt is owed by all citizens and dual citizens of israel.
It would just be like reporting fraudulent charges when your debit card gets stolen.
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not starting a war with Iran would be one.
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>>532837081
Devalue the USD, print trillion dollar notes and pay back china. Whoops. I gave away their plan. Too bad investors didn't specify repayment in gold.
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>>532851552
Won't work. SS/medicare/medicaid are tied to inflation, make up the deficit, and demographically will get worse.
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>>532837081
Rip the band-aid off and default / refuse it entirely and never let the concept of meme fake money come back into being.
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>>532837081
Just stop paying and tell everyone to suck a dick if they dont like it.
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>>532837081
Default, issue the reichsdollar backed by American labor
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>>532837175
Well this only hurts elites who have money so..can't have that
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>>532837081
to pay? what a nonsensical idea
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>>532837081
Debt to who? Can't we just declare debt illegal?



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