>>532841427Yeah they did. You're just ignorant.
>>532841427
>>532841561present it
>>532841427You could look it up, but you won't.
Oh you think those individuals who returned were the same who left Earth?lollmao even
>>532841589Upper stage of LEM goes to Lunar orbit, docks with Command module, astronauts exit the LEM and then it is discarded in Lunar orbit. Then the Command module returns to Earth using its remaining fuel.
>>532841589look it up yourself you lazy ass zoomer neet.
>>532841680Yeah this. Ah you spoiled it. >>532841565this was taken from the camera mounted on the lunar rover. It was remote controlled from Earth.
>>532841427The details are so incredibly easily found there's literally hundreds if not thousands of videos providing the answer
>>532841427>>532841589theres a 340 page flight plan that explains the entire flight in crazy detail down to the second if you dorks actually cared.but you dont.
>>532841427They walked out of the sound stage retard.
>>532841565the ascent module weighed 10,300 pounds on Earth and 1,717 pounds on the moon. You can figure out for yourself how much sustained force is needed to lift 1,717 lbs into orbit and see for yourself it that force was applied here.
>>532791747>>532791780>>532791818
>>532841792I'm pretty sure it was actually preprogrammed since they were able to calculate the lift of the lander and the panning of the camera so they don't have to risk the delay
>>532842056>you would need almost 2x the mass of your payload in terms of rocket fuel (to take off from the moon)ascent stage:Dry weight: 4,740 lbsPropellant: 5,187 lbsratio: 1.09oops
>>532842564That was assuming a significantly slower fuel burn.I don't know what fuel they used. But grok said the propellant velocity comes anywhere from 2000 m/s to 4500 m/s.If you assume 4000 m/s, the ratio is only 60%. However if you use a slower propellant, you could need as much as 170%. I just did that as an exercise to demonstrate, that even using a significantly weaker fuel, you can still easily launch off the moon. Also this assumes the ascent-time is 10 minutes. I actually don't know how long it takes. If you could do it in 5 minutes you'd need even less than 60%. What you said, the propellant being around equal to the payload, is perfectly within tolerance.
>>532841427The craft that was orbiting the moon at thousands of miles per hour hooked up with the ascending lunar module as it was blasting off. A mere millisecond of divergence and it would have simply gone off into space, never to be heard from again. This happened perfectly 6 times. If you don't believe this you're a crazy conspiracy theorist.
>>532842838Aerozine 50 fuel.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascent_propulsion_system
>>532842838a, that's horseshit2, you can look at the video here >>532841565 and see that there is a mild spark but no continuous downward ejecta and force being applied through propellant
>>532841427Shshhh don’t question it
>>532842838the assent module was hypergolic with no throttle, it had about 3100m/s exhaust velocity.it could burn for around 7 minutes.basically it had just enough to get to orbit with a small margin
>>532841427Pretty sure it was stage left
>>532843221>hypergolichypergolic doesn't mean its magic, it means you need to take your own oxygen as there isn't any on the moon. that means the propellant you do take is less effective by weight ratio as to what performance you would get on Earth from non-hypergolic fuel.
>>532843599It's crazy the straws moontards grasp at to not have to admit they were duped about the moon landing too
>>532842152Controlled from earth.The guy working the camera was too slow on the first mission and it launched before he panned up.He was too fast on the second mission and panned before they launched.The famous video is from the 3rd mission they attempted to record where he finally had his timing correct.
>>532843793Forgot to add this is covered in one of the books one of the astronauts wrote.
>>532843834yes "who controlled the camera" is a poison pill like 9/11 retard theories aka jet fuel can't melt steel beams
>>532843834Is that the one where he said how bright the stars were after collins said they didn't see any stars?
>>532841565Someone please tell me how that camera is supposed to work How'd it get there, how'd it follow the subject
>>532843969They had to leave a 4th astronaut behind to operate the camera.
>>532841565So, they had drones back in 1969, huh? EyeNoseJewsAreEvil
>>532842838>But grok saidOpinion immediately discarded
>>532843969its called a countdown. liftoff in 30 seconds, camera pan tilt in 30.5 seconds. don't be a retard.
>>532843969>How'd it get there, how'd it follow the subjectThe lunar rover on Apollo 15, 16 and 17 all had a remotely-operable TV cameraThe astronauts were instructed to park the rover a certain distance away and the commands were relayed from Mission ControlBecause of time lag, the motion was preplanned ahead of time and issued 2 seconds ahead of the countdownOn Apollo 15 the tilt mechanism malfunctionedOn Apollo 16 the rover was parked too close, so the planned controls did not keep the ascent stage centeredThey got it (mostly) right on Apollo 17All 3 videos are found herehttps://youtu.be/fLlt9ZdCAfU?t=64Further sourceshttps://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N38K1VM/https://www.redsharknews.com/technology-computing/item/2742-how-nasa-captured-lunar-lift-offhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMHLvoWZfqQ&t=280s
>>532844103JFK's older brother Joe Jr died in an accident involving a drone airplane in 1944.Operation Northwoods was a CIA plan to use drone airplanes in 1962
>>532843969Aliexpress chinese camera motion tracking
>>532841710>makes extraordinaire claims>refuses to elaborate
>>532843599>hypergolic doesn't mean its magic, it means you need to take your own oxygen as there isn't any on the moonhypergolic means the fuel and oxidizer ignites on contact retard.the point is its a dead simple engine they just fire up and let er rip.its not very complicated. they had the performance to make it to orbit. period.
>>532844660Just look it up on (((trusted sources))) bro!
>>532841565RIP camera man
>>532844103Supersonic drones since 64, but niggers can’t fathom how advanced we were back then because they didn’t have Faceberg.
>>532844824They made it happen with 60's pocket calculator technology but they lost it
>>532841792And they synchronized it perfectly with the signal delays using analog watches.
>>532844824Left 4 dead
>>532844148>anon posts a full breakdown and explanationdo the retards even read it?probably not.they will just go naaaaa it wasnt possible back then, offering zero explanation.
>>532841427They just walked off the studio set when the cameras stopped filming.
>>532841427What USA is trying to do is much harder than the Apollo missions. They're trying to land in south pole and install equipment there to create a lunar base. It's not the same kind of mission.
>>532841427In a confetti machine
>>532844148>On Apollo 16 the rover was parked too closeWhy can't they find people who can follow simple parking directions to send up there?
>>532843969Good question >>532844148Great answer
>>532842040What falls faster on the moon? A feather or a pile of bricks?
>>532841970>theres a 340 page flight plan that explains the entire flight in crazy detailA pic is worth a thousand words
>>532844148>>532844924These high effort posts reek of "we totally went guys!!!"It feels like propaganda, sorry.Nobody gives a fuck about "going back to the moon" my country is filled with violent niggers and nobody can buy homes.
>>532841427>they never told us how they got back from the moon>>532841565
>>532845067Congratulations, you get to learn how they did color television on the moon when their camera was black and white!During the launch of the Lunar Module of Apollo 17, various particles can be seen being blown away. Interestingly, some are red, some are green, and some are blue. Why? The color camera installed on the Lunar Rover that filmed the ascent had a rapidly rotating color wheel between the lens and the image sensor. The camera recorded the three color channels red, green and blue (RGB) separately. Then the signals were mixed together. The three colors were recorded at a rate of 20 times per second. The NTSC standard runs at 30 frames per second. So if the color channels are refreshed only 20 times per second, the images will be displayed faster than the color refresh rate. Therefore, these were monochrome images.
>>532841427I fuckin teleported them. Do you think we did it with science? Lmao
>>532841792There was no live broadcast from the moon. It was faked. They used a camera on Earth pointed to a TV that was playing a scene shot in a studio, hence the uber-low quality even for the standards of the time.The Apollo Missions were faked.The strongest proof for me was the first press conference after the 3 astronauts came "back." They're all sitting there BROODING and looking extremely uncomfortable. This is consistent with the theoy that their superiors told them to defeat the commies and save America they needed to go along with the lie, and if they did that they would be left alone. The 3 men were hoodwinked, and what you're seeing is them wrestling with their consciences while being praised for something they did not do.
>>532845249>Interestingly, some are red, some are green, and some are blue.More interestingly, the LM moves but the blown out particles don't
>>532841427what 11?yeah they did, it was a big part of the dramarooms full of women furiously calculating shitguy left on the orbiter going a bit wacky for a few minutes there and thinking he dieddudes in the lander nearly dying to moon dust inhalation >>532841565always wondered how they got the gimble to track but now that i actually think about it it's a piss easy calculation xD no air
>>532845300>The 3 men were hoodwinked, and what you're seeing is them wrestling with their consciences while being praised for something they did not do.
>>532845300>The strongest proof for me was the first press conference after the 3 astronauts came "back."They are 3 military men who just got out of a 21 day quarantine giving facts at a press conferenceHere they are just after returning - joyful and proud.Also, there was plenty of laughing and joking throughout the press conference>Laughing at the sped-up footage of them setting up TV (23:18)https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=1398>More laughing at sped-up footage (25:12)https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=1512>Michael Collins admitting that he wasn't sure it was going to be a happy ending, eliciting smiles (39:49)https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=2389>Was ever a time they were spellbound (47:42)https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=2862>What were your feelings, did you think you were on Earth? (48:55)https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=2935>How will you restore normalcy in your life after this? (1:03:40)https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=3820>We plead guilty to enjoying ourselves (1:09:02)https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=4142>Admitting they played music for the guy in Mission Control (1:23:01)https://youtu.be/Yz6nzutr7RU?t=4221
>>532845219I find it hilarious that moontards' standard explanation of why we haven't been back is because of diversity but now we're going back when the US is at the peak of diversity? What's the explanation there, moontards?
>>532845157>a simple diagram for normieswhats that got to do with the actual detailed flight plan?
>and now, the post that broke nu/pol/Whats easier?Masons cooperate with stanley kubrick to fake everything thats gayOr masons cooperate with NASA to go to the moon using contemporary technology of 1969
>>5328431623000 m/s, there you go. Plug that into the equation
My friend is a photographer and has one of these cameras (without the crosshairs added by NASA), said it would be impossible to accidentally produce Picrel.
>>532845079oi, you try making fine movements in a positive pressure suitat a certain point close enough is perfect and you want to take off the insanoflex
>>532845421Totally a normal reaction from a man who supposedly just achieved a new level of human progress no one thought possible even 100 years earlier. I've never heard a response to this by NASA bootlickers but I'd imagine they'd just say they were tired.Think about it though. These guys signed up for the mission. No one died during the "mission." They wanted to do it. They believed in the mission. They should be ecstatic, smiling, overcome with positive emotions. Instead they're dismissive, brooding, and give off signs of apprehension and discomfort.Inb4 some bootlicker says they were suffering from some post-space fatigue syndrome due to the zero-g lol.
>>532845677>My friend is a photographerFirst, you don't have a friendAnd even if you do, and even if he is a photographer, he would never have said thatBecause he would understand how cameras work, which you clearly don'tAnd you clearly didn't look up primary sources and instead rely on conspiratard siteshttps://moonhoaxdebunked.blogspot.com/search?q=crosshair
>>532845793
>>532845648unironically the latter1969 had way better math and explosives than it had special effects and recreations
>>532845441>I find it hilarious that moontards' standard explanation of why we haven't been back is because of diversity but now we're going back when the US is at the peak of diversity? What's the explanation there, moontards?There has been an absolute metric shit ton of denying that we went to the moon online over the past 2-5 years with things ramping up drastically over the past two years really.I think this current "moon mission" is a way to try to put peoples doubts to rest and push some propaganda that we are the best and most mighty space program on earth.I also think this "moon mission" is completely fake just like the late 60s and early 70s moon missions. The pictures in the early moon missions were faked and are still to this day on Nasas official site as actual pictures that we went to the moon even though many of them are obviously photoshopped fakes and duplicates most likely in a set. The social media push this past week has been astronomical, including fags like you who are paid to try to talk down about people denying the moon missions. The social media push has been outrageous and has got to cost a metric fortune to get that many people and bots to all follow along with the same narrative.https://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS17-136-20685https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AS17-136-20685_(21677945836).jpg--------------------------------------------------------now overlay the above picture with this picture below and you get my GIF--------------------------------------------------------------https://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/frame/?AS17-147-22527https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AS17-147-22527_(21652570416).jpgIf you have even half a brain you can see they used the same "photo" and background but photoshopped a new foreground in.
every argument that the moon landing was faked can be debunked by just looking it up, or asking an ai if you're lazy, and getting a perfectly reasonable explanation...
>>532845441Now they don't need an explanation because "we went back" so that's supposed to trump everything.They just make shit up and roll with the punches because for some reason the thought that government lies to them is unbearable.
>>532845828>primary sources>well-poisoning CIA-created term "conspiracy theory"You shills really have no idea what site you're even on do you
>>532844909>>532842152why do all tjat Kubrick gots camera guys bro, u think he is broke, using lil watches to set off and anvil falling and tilting the cam?? some acme bs, nah. they gots grips n sht >audio of NASA's devices doing a simple taskhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyGZyoWl7uo
>>532846126>every argument that the moon landing was faked can be debunked by just looking it up, or asking an ai if you're lazy, and getting a perfectly reasonable explanation...>or asking an aithey are lobotomized to give you answers that the Jews want you to readthey are not giving you truth, they are a mechanical way to push propaganda
>>532846219>artfully tears apart some fag’s bullshit post>Immediately gets hit with internet cartoons repliesSome of this seethe is peak
>>532846120>now overlay the above picture with this picture below and you get my GIFYou mean your GIF that clearly has the background mountain changing its position?When you can literally just stare at the right edge where the mountain meets space, and see it changing?That GIF?
>>532845828They've literally erased the top of the thingamabob
>>532846120This. All human space travel as well as drones other than probes is fake and gay.
>>532846352and? are you capable of comprehending arguments and counterarguments on your own? i don't trust anyone so thats what i have to do. i guess you're still operating in a primitive trust based paradigm where you only care about the source not the argument.
>>532846387It's highly typical of these threadsThey have zero actual arguments or facts to back up their well-poisoning, so they just resort to calling people Jews
>>532846120your gif shows the background moving as though the rover kept going in the direction it is facing then took another picture :| your example shows two different locations, two different rotations from that background mountaindo you only have half an eye?
>>532846120whats that?there are hundreds of pics with this mountain in the background. as you would expect parking next to a fuckin mountain.
>>532846126It's known that AI has been told to spit out disinfo on certain topics. Also if a certain narrative has drastically more text available supporting AI will think it's the correct one. >>532846473You're right there's two identical hills with the same shadows and placement in the photo frame
>>532846352>that picrel
>>532845828>>532845677>>532846540forgot pic
>>532846909The fact that these moontards are relying primarily on AI sources tells you everything you need to know
>>532846473No this one
>>532846852and? i said judge the argument not the source.
If you think we went to the moon 60 years ago and haven't been back since because... reasons, (You) are a true goy.
>>532841565>>532841970Everything is fake and gay and this looks fake. If White men really accomplished this then they are gods among talking dirt chimps and jews, as the destroyers of this race, must be the devil incarnate.
>>532847284And now they can't use their standard excuse of diversity anymore because apparently we're going back with a woman and a black guy
>>532843969Are you retarded, or just pretending?
>>532845135Pile of bricks because they are also exerting gravity on the Moon, moreso than a feather. The bricks pull the Moon towards them harder.
>>532847438A video of that darkie playing golf on the moon would be priceless to them, wonder why they can't pull it off 60 years later?
>>532843197Why do you think you could see it? The fuels don't even require a spark. There's no atmosphere. In the vacuum of space?
>>532847119watyou can see the second camera from the first camerai am confused at what you are trying to say
>>532844148thx a lot. first time I actually learned something on /pol/
>>532847701Oh dear he trusted the science.
>>532847284>>532847438>>532847595we spent 2x nasa's budget bombing sand niggers for jews.if we just told the kikes to fuck off, and put all that money into a moon mission, we could easily go back within a couple years.its just the will to do it.
>>532841427Pressed rewind.
>>532841561/thread
>>532844148Good post. But I don't know why you bother with these retards
>>532847776Lmao galactic cope
>>532847776But according to your story we're going back while still doing all that other stuff.Please explain
>>532847566technically correctbutt practically identicalmoon is fkin big yoyou'd need to break out the planc lengths to tell the difference
>>532845202>stop using your brain wtf you're supposed to be a lazy nigger faggot like me!You glow.
>>532847827I don't bother with the retards to convince them - that's impossibleI bother with the retards so that others don't fall into their retardationLies and disinformation must be met with truth and knowledge wherever it is found, lest the world fall deeper into the shitter
>>532845202Yeah keep voting for republicans and pretending the Moon is fake. That will definitely help you
>>532847776>It's bcs diversity>Diverse crew "goes" to the Moon>Actually it's this other thing I just came up with
>>532847897effort posting is it's own rewardthe few times i've bothered i've been riding the high of being the source of someone's TIL all day
>>532847959And even that other thing is obviously not true
>>532841427>President has a non-delayed phone call with astronauts on the Moon>people believe they were actually on the Moonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_8tawnlwr8
>>532845202>but how do you explain {THING THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE IF YOU THINK FOR ONE SECOND}?!?!?!?>{explains it so that even a retard like you can comprehend it}>why are you explaining it? that's fishy!!!!
It's a certain type of upper midwit (100-110) that loves heckin space and moon landings. They are subject to pride and yet not smart or dumb enough for humility.
>>53284809180 IQ post
>>532846473>>532846567>>532846610>>532846766https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AS15-86-11603_(21495828160).jpghttps://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo//frame/?AS15-87-11811Since we have "found these out" NASA has been deleting them from the innernet so you cant "see" themhttps://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/static/history/alsj/a15/AS15-86-11603HR.jpghttps://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/static/history/alsj/a15/AS15-87-11811HR.jpghttps://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AS15-87-11811_(21495828160).jpg
>>532847868yeah we are barely.assuming it doesnt get canceled to send more shit to the jews.next launch will be years away.>>532847959why are you quoting something i never said?also you could put a monkey in there (like the one in there now) and it would still go fine.
>>532847742That's a common theme with the conspiratards - they never actually say what they claim, they just post random images and make you guess and interpret their intentionIt's social engineering at its finestI think he's trying to say that the mountain changes drastically in the background while objects in the foreground don't changeBut in looking at the two image sources, it's pretty clear he's skewed them from the originals to fit his narrativeIn reality, the two images are quite consistent with each otherhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21495828160/in/album-72157658635216160https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/21634556296/in/album-72157658599050840
>>532847119lol
>>532848148found what?this is another one where you can see the source of the other photo in the photothen the other photo is from that pointsee whatwhat are you sayinggggggggggg
>>532848157So we barely are now, but we couldn't the last 60 years when the US was far less diverse?
>>532848010>President has a non-delayed phone call with astronauts on the MoonSo what the fuck is going on between 1:30 and 1:36?And from 2:02 to 2:08?Is that a delay? I think soAre you just a liar? I think so
It is simple. That aluminum foil and paper mache model blasted off the surface. We aren't exactly sure what type of film-to-digital-to-packet-relay system was in place to get the footage down to Earth. We are too busy being impressed by the automatic motion tracking system on the camera because I don't remember reading that they forgot anyone. It rises and 'docks' with the command module piloted by Michael Collins who had been orbiting the moon while they were playing golf and jumping the rover over moon dunes. The cool thing is it somehow docks with the command module that is travelling at 3600mph orbiting the moon.
>>532848148Explain in no uncertain terms what you think these photos show. Don't dodge, don't change the subject. Tell what you think the gif shows.
>>532848132140 actually
>>532848255we could have, but we didnt have the will to do it.they wanted to do the low orbit shit instead.whether that was the right way to go is debatable.saying we couldnt go back if we wanted to is fucking stupid.
>>532848296It's the desert where they filmed the moon landing nigger
>>532841427Gravity, they fell back to earth.
>>532848418What are the two photos meant to show exactly? What argument are you making by posting the photos?
>>532841565>Watches>Thinks"That kind of looks like if you had something weighed down to the bottom of a pool and just cut it loose.
>>532847897You dont have to try to explain it to meI have seen all i need to see with the "lunar rover" which was tin foil, construction paper, and paper towel rolls hodge podged together. The official NASA pictures are clearly photoshopped because when you overlay some of them, they are clearly the same foreground, or background with pieces edited to appear as if its a new picture.You can deny all you want but anyone with eyeballs and more than 3 brain cells bouncing around in their head can see that the moon shit is fake as fuck >>532848148whoops i accidentially used the wrong gif for the links to pix. sorry.
>>532848148>Since we have "found these out" NASA has been deleting them from the innernet so you cant "see" themRight, they're so careful to delete it, they're only available on flickrhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchive/albums/Or on the Apollo Image Archivehttps://data.lroc.im-ldi.com/apollo/browseOr Apollo Spacehttps://apollospace.com/images/But other than that, they're working hard to delete them!
>>532847999CheckedThry don't care Their idea is to just come up with whatever and to do it relentlessly so they can hopefully prevent some anons from going down the rabbit hole.Notice how some of those shills post often (they are in every thread you're in and you miss a shit ton of threads so what are the odds that you accidentally run into each other, therefore they are only not shilling when they sleep), they post a lot (usually 30+ posts per thread about a subject they say is ridiculous yet they pursue it passionately) yet with all that posting almost none of their posts have picrels so they are not interested in the subject enough to have infographics yet they post and they post. So what's the deal with that ? They seem to be actual paid shills.
>>532847752
>>532848258Nah, that's just your imagination
>>532848157>why are you quoting something i never said?So you're not really an anon, are you ?You don't know hoe the site works, so why are you here ?Don't tell me they pay you for this shit ? Maybe some discord raid by some hecking science lovers ?
>>532848472Answer>>532848296>>532848446In relation to the two pics in >>532848148Don't dodge the questions. What do you think those two photos are showing?
just posting the same ones nowinterest lostdidn't know they fucked up twice before getting the shot of the ascent module lol thx for that whoever it was
>>532845359The gimbal track was done via radio, the RTT latency of a radio signal to the moon and back is about 2.5 seconds.
>>532841427i think why they never want to get a good picture of this is because of it sitting in solar radiation for that long. the flag is likely gone/in tatters and the lander may even be in poor shape by now.it's just like Elon's Starman he sent up. it will forever be in heliocentric orbit but eventually nothing but the car's frame will remain.
>>532848472>>532848191its right here. he posted it for you
There was every motive to fake the landing. The cold war was raging, after all. By the mid 1960s the leadership realized putting a man on the moon was simply not possible with the technology of the time. At some point the leadership was convinced a fake could be pulled off rather than the US abandoning the project and looking weak.
>>532845828Depending on your reading level, you can learn more from the likely liberal photographers and academics who have studied it. https://casa.colorado.edu/~dduncan/pseudoscience/cosmicapolloHoax.htm>>532846972Angry replies inbound
all they have to do to prove it was real is show the flag and ship parts on the moon right now from an observatory on earth
>>532844103Germans had drones in WW2 you fucking retard.Radio technology has been a thing for a long time.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argus_As_292I swear all zoomers should be culled.
>>532848913Surely you have any evidence of it being impossible and leadership being convinced that fakery can be pulled off? They're pretty specific claims.
>>532848913So then why did they "fake" five more moon landings? Or were those real and only the first one is fake?
>>532848637>esl nigger cant into 4chin>ur paid!kys
>>532841427Yes they did
>>532848446The apollo moon landing footages were filmed on a closed set make to look like the lunar surface. Except being that it was 60s movie tech, you can still notice flaws that shouldn't be possible on the real lunar surface. Netherheless, whoever was managing the psyop was very talented. It fooled millions.
>>532848913Ponder the real motive anon, why do they want us so badly to believe we are a random mutation in an infinite universe?
>>532848674>Don't dodge the questions. What do you think those two photos are showing?>>532848472These pictures show that NASA used the same foreground, the same "set" with rocks placed in a specific place along with a small "crater" to the far left. The dimensions and placement of the crater and rocks highlighted by the arrows does not change meaning the "camera" was in the same location but the mountain in the background is triple the size from one picture to another. This means the background was photoshopped to appear larger on this "set" in one photo versus the other>>532848148These pictures show the same background, same rocks and wash/canyon to the right but the foreground is edited. This picture was edited in a manner where they either placed the large rock on the left or used the foreground from another picture and photoshopped it in.>>532846120these pictures show the same background, the same mountain with a different foreground for each picture. One picture shows a large rock formation and the other picture shows the fake lunar lander and moon rover buggy. These pictures are simply edited photoshopped fakes meant to make you believe we ackshually went to the moon.(in this construction paper and cardboard garbage)
>>532848091You’re talking about fighting to admit they’ve been deliberately brainwashed since birth.
>>532849158What are the flaws? Be specific, circle them or explain properly.
>>532849179>talentedYeah it was Kubrick
>>532849182>These pictures show the same backgroundIf they are using the same background, then parallax wouldn't happen and shadows wouldn't move, do you agree with this statement?
>532849182>these pictures show the same background, the same mountain with a different foreground for each pictureExcept it literally doesn'tYou can literally see the mountain in the background changing on the right at the point where the black meets the mountainAnybody with eyes can clearly see itI'm done talking to you when you're just going to lie repeatedly about what you have
>>532848739my ideamount camera to rotordraw a line with tracjectory and cross lines based on where that kind of engine should be after .2 .5 1 ect secondsprogram rotor to align with those crosslines at their time indexsome dude two and a half seconds away nudging a joystick seems a weird way of doing itcould do my way with some springs and gears lol
>>532841427They farted a lot and used that to propel themselves back
>>532849241I'm not in the mood.
>>532849388The rover cameras were used for a lot more than filming the liftoffs, no point in making a new contraption that would still need to be aware of the exact timing of the liftoff when you can just use the same remote control.
>>532841561This.
>>532849395>oh no I better not question everything because some things don't need to be questioned
>>532849613>suddenly gets very sleepy when he has the perfect chance of proving a pointTotally a normal reaction of someone who has something substantial to say. This is your golden moment, your shot at proving once and for all the pictures were taken in a closet set with flaws that are there, you just have to show those flaws, that's all it takes.
>>532849645good point xD
>>532849613>>532849182That's two who suddenly got very quiet when you prompt them to actually elaborate and explain their points. How strange, wouldn't you think that someone with something to show would jump at the opportunity of convincing someone?
>>532843969The camera is your biggest issue with that Star Wars tier hovering spacecraft in the 60s?
>>532850272It’s because it’s a beaten dead horse, manned mission to the moon never happened and has been throughly debunked a billion times already. It’s tiresome having to constantly school trolls about this, way more easier to say it never happened because it never happened and the current flyby is also an obvious fake. Humans will never get past the radiation belt with current silicon technology.
>>532850748Instead of dodging and coping, answer how it's possible for a set background to have parallax and moving shadows.
That sure was a lot of words by the leaf to say "I don't have any evidence and cannot articulate what I have a problem with"
>>532841565Had dynamic camera0 star pictures in the 60sReally makes you think
>>532850396There is no air resistance there anon. Only gravity is pulling it back. As well since there is no atmosphere, there is nothing for the thruster exhaust to react with, so its pretty much transparent. Its a constant thrust.
>>532848148The gif that kills gif-fag.
>>532841565Why could they not transmit their communication with the same latency as they did that camera?
>>532842040The moon was moving away from the module. It's not like the earth pulling you.
>>532851294Also the funniest shit is that you would obviously notice this if you were editing and moving the photos around to make them line up, so why did he leave out that obvious evidence that the background is real? The parallax is also even more obvious.
>>532845424that speech from nixon and the subsequent chaplain was absolutely tremendous. FANTASTIC and BEAUTIFUL, truly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bjN2fjSBn8&t=19352s
>>532845135https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVfhztmK9zI
>>532844894>60's pocket calculatorslide rules anon.Pocket calculators didn't show up til 70-71Of course they did have mainframe computers like UNIVAC.I.
>>532841565this is the sole reason I think the moon landing was faked
>>532845202>no explanation Its fake>explanationAlso fake!You are mentally ill. At least give a logical reason or evidence
>>532841561Same story with all moon landing skepticism
>>532841427They used the Earth’s and Moon’s gravity along with “controlled burns” to precisely navigate the course. They’re incredibly smart and know exactly what they’re doing.
>>532843197There's a blast of fire out of the bottom of the craft, not the sparks, the jet of fire from the engine
>>532841970I’m supposed to believe niggas reading this like it’s instructions
>>532845219The camera was part of the rover they left behind, it was linked to mission control who operated the camera remotely
>>532852839no, i dont expect a nigger to understand any of this.
>>532844103Yes.This is the Lockheed M-21 with its D-21 drone, designed in 1962, first flown in 1964.
>>532852930Faggot
>>532841427>they never told us how they got back from the moon
>>532841427what are you talking about? They had a spaceship, the same one they used to get there. duh
>>532853756How do they take off from the moon if fire has no oxygen in a vacuum?
>>532845359>no aireven with air we got math to calculate retard
>>532841427why would you need to "get back" if you never went?
>>532854101hardly easy though is ita vector and a radial is a fuckton easier to do without fluid dynamics
>>532853945Rocket fuel has an oxidizer mixed with it
>>532855309but there's no atmosphere to push off of
I never called you rape skin but here we are
My favorite part about these conspiracy threads is that none of these conspiracies would even exist if NASA didn't constantly change whether or not you could see stars in space for almost 20 straight years.
>>532855356It's a thruster with its own oxidizer, not an air-breathing jet engine. The push is caused by the reaction in the thruster itself.
>>532855356You dont need atmosphere for thrust
>>532841970>This Jewish book says that it's real, therefore it's realLol. That's the same argument religions use to brainwash people.
>>532849147thats a benis :DDD
>>532847284We don't have the techonology even though old computers were the size of a room and weaker than the iphone we carry in our pockets. Plus we have tons of AI datacenters and wireless communication satellites.BUT WE DONT HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO GO BACK ANYMORE
>>532845202>prove me wrong i dare you>i don't agree with your stated evidence, it can be debunked>no i will not prove factual evidence why I'm right and you're wrong
>>532841565How did they manage to rendezvous with the lunar module in orbit using 1960’s tech? If you listen to the astronauts during the lunar launch, they are jovial and joking…. When a single miscalculation is going to leave them stranded in orbit. Quite odd if you think about it.
>>532848282Based and funny how all the glownigger eglin shills ignore this post
>>532855457Can you provide an example of a photo/video where you can/can't see stars under the same circumstances?Bonus: NASA themselves describing the image as having stars, not taken from inside a vessel so definitely not dust.
>>532856091I didn't describe that well.*Two photos or videos, one with stars and one not
>>532856005The lem was packaged up in the same rocket as the command module, just had to dock it once in orbit. They worked out the docking problem in the gemini missions (and nearly killed Neil Armstrong in the process)
>>532841427Polaris never moves kill jwsszz and freemasonic assshats
>>532841792Flat earther Heinrich Himmler and von Braun his good friend
>iPhone 17 pro max in our pocket is 10000x stronger than the computers they used to go to the moon, plus it can talk to AI powered by a mega datacenter>President was able to have a live phone call with the niggas on the moon some how>BUT WE DONT HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY ANYMOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>532849388This is unironically how they did it though, they used radio controls. They have said as much in over a hundred interview.Also "programming" stuff in the 60's was a whole big thing. It would be a lot easier to just use a radio.
>>532856351>President was able to have a live phone call with the niggas on the moon some howIt's phone to radio.Radio stations probably play thousands of phone calls every day. They have for decades. It's not hard. The other direction isn't that hard either. You patch one audio signal into another.
>>532843793no. the delay makes intervention like pointing the camera meaningless, and if you have to anticipate, you have already done the calculation needed for a programmed tracking. what you probably are mistaking for 'controlled from earth' here is that the camera was linked to earth so that if anything untoward happened during launch, or later, the footage would be available.
>>532855515>>532855530No, you need something to push against. If you're just farting into a vacuum you won't go anywhere because the vacuum sucks it all up and there's nothing it can do.There's a webm proving this with a real life experiment you can replicate at home.
>>532856732I see. Surely you have some evidence or solid explanation illustrating that?
>>532856732So where does all that energy go? Or does it violate the third law of motion?
>>532845067looks so real kek
>>532856899this was such a youtube reply. wrong against wrong."where does the _momentum_ go?" would be a more correct retort. the ejected gas has momentum. the total momentum is zero and should be preserved as per physics. it can only be preserved by having the spacecraft move in the opposite direction.
>>532857073I stand corrected
>>532845202based retardthe low end of the bell curve and the high end of the bell curve are both correct in their positions on this matter. whether it was fake or real doesn't matter. what really matters is NIGGERS of every flavor and what we can do to remove them from our once great nations.
>>532841565>the astronauts returned to their home planet
>>532845793Alternatively they really made it there and the strange reaction was due to what they'd seen and were forbidden from disclosing.
>>532841565LMAOOooh sparkles
>>532855656>This JewishNazi Germans
The mission to go to the moon was to preserve some humans in case the Iran war turned into a world war of nukes. They sent several guys up with a woman so that they could repopulate the world once we blow ourselves up
>>532845424wait a second that's just an airstream caravan
>>532845793They literally are very tired. They had just completed a 21 day quarantine that involved a long debriefing process and tests by doctors and IIRC this is deep into a long press conference filled with difficult questions, and they are not public speakers. Also IIRC the press conference is not totally devoid of levity. Most of the clips you see of it by people who say the moon landing was faked are just select parts. I encourage you to watch the full press conference.
>>532842040Dumb fuck
>>532856732>>532856794Also here's a household real life experiment of a rocket thruster working in a vacuum: https://youtu.be/yRfDwkHPVeg?t=200There's another video of a schizo commentating over it and he straight up lies about the vacuum chamber suddenly not being in a vacuum to try to explain how the thruster works in the vacuum, it's really funny and shows how dumb and dishonest flat earthers always are: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiPXZlSV7oYHow does this guy think you can even re-pressurize the chamber in a fraction of a second?
>>532857073>>532856899You can't generate thrust in a vacuum, and that doesn't violate the conservation of momentum.The "momentum" being "conserved" accounts for the space craft and the fuel. Midwits will be convinced by "exhaust go back, me go forward!" and ignore the momentum of the exhaust, which is still part of the system being conserved, after it leaves the engine.It's in a vacuum. It has to spread out to maintain zero pressure. It can't spread out in the direction its already moving, otherwise it would just keep accelerating to infinity. It has to equalize zero pressure by moving in the other direction, thus zeroing out the phantom momentum glowniggers imply when claiming rockets work in space.
>>532857896See >>532857875>You can't generate thrust in a vacuumSurely you have some evidence or solid explanation illustrating that? You can create vacuums here on earth, so there must be lots of evidence.
>>532857896erm, the bot is malfunctioning.
>>532857875>>532857990From your own timestamped video>this is at about 0.02 atmospheres pressure right nowSo only 15 ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE more pressure than the vacuum of space. i.e. not a vacuum. Nice try, but that's not even close to the conditions required for the experiment to be valid.
>>532858207Do you have a valid experiment then? There must be valid experiments since you are the one claiming that possibility, why would you claim something without valid evidence?
>>532841565From looking carefully at this clip I can clearly see the rainbow sparkles and thus I can used deductive reasoning to infer that the power of friendship got us back home safely.
>>532857896imagine throwing 5 gallons of gascan you feel yourself getting pushed backwards throwing 30lbs away from yourself?now explode it out of a rocket engine, and youll get fucking 500x the power of that.vacuum or not.
Facts about Luna:>one sixth the size of Earth>one sixth the gravity of Earth>ball shaped>tidally locked with Earth>it's a place we can go to>full moons drive some folks mental>its surface features form a map of the Earth>hard to see stars on the surface>Earth is visible from the surface>it is very silty and grey, no vegetation
>>532858253You're the one making the extraordinary claim. Just because you're repeating popular glownigger psyop talking points, doesn't mean the onus isn't still on you.
>>532858304You made the claim that rockets do no work in a vacuum >>532855356Now substantiate it. Do not dodge or change the subject, substantiate your claim.
>>532858346I did from basic principles. All you can do is parrot CIA talking points that you don't understand and don't make sense, and use self referential circular logic>our fake rockets prove that rockets are realIt's infantile.
>>532858289>full moons drive some folks mentalmakes me want to procreate.
>>532855356F = dp/dt = v dm/dt + m dv/dt
>>532858437What you posted wasn't a basic principle, it was a strange word salad that doesn't actually match either theory or fact.Post anything that substantiates your claim, it's a very easy thing to prove if it's actually correct. Do not dodge or cope.
>>532858437>I did from basic principleswhile flailing around conservation of momentum.
fuck off back to >>>/x/
>>532858492>it was a meaningless word saladfify
>>532858346The argument the satanic nasa cabal makes is that it pushes off its own exhaust. Which, ofcourse is bullshit. No atmosphere no air, nothing to push off of anything.Space is fake
>>532858492>>532858493All you've brought is banal propaganda. Your incredulity at statements of facts isn't an argument. Religious nutjobs do the exact same thing you do.
im tired of pretending the moonlanding was some great featthey had computers and rockets that were more than good enough for what was neededjust because you guys are tards that NEED a gui and pretty pictures to conceptualize anything doesn't mean that intelligent professionals did or do
>>532858822I told you to not dodge or cope. Post evidence of your claim that rockets don't work in a vacuum. It doesn't need to be space, a vacuum on earth is fine. This is trivial to do with relatively cheap science lab equipment, so there should be plenty of experiments.
>>532841565>Witnesses how US military obliterates hostile targets with gazilion dollar weapon systems for the 1000th time>refuses to believe that the same country sent a person to moon with the same technology.
>>532859021Spoon feeding you nasa shills here.The burden of proof that rockets can work in a vacuum is on you. You say its trivial to demonstrate on earth, then post an experiment that I DEBUNKED and then you dodged and changed the subject to demanding I disprove your bullshit instead of responding to the debunking of your weak ass experiment.
>>532859577That's not even in a vacuum, why isn't the contraption working at 1 atm?
>>532859577Now show us the positive control where it drives away without the vacuum cleaner
>>532859021>>532859655Respond to this >>532858207 without sounding like a pathetic, weaselly faggot. Notice how you completely dodged that critical debunking of your shit experiment that so easily "proves" your point, and could only respond with evasive questions.
>>532859577A motorized vacuum actively sucking gas isn't the same as a volume that has been emptied of gas.
>>532858280>ignores this>>532859577posts nonsenseretard.
>>532859775>>532858280You're throwing the gas against atmosphere. Imagine throwing it against a vacuum, don't hurt yourself though, I know that's as impossible for you as imagining if you didn't have breakfast this morning.
>>532859577I love this retarded ass .webm>vacuum cleaners are the same thing as the vacuum of spacethis is truly the power of the unvaxxed mind.
>>532841427Are you a stupid blind space is fake everywhere convex vectors are not a plane 3d graphics imaging proves this fake in 6os space is.fake and it's a mask and false overcharge for others it's a datelir electronics scam you are not using but one box ft able but have 20 active pieces of equipment 15.not real and charged for all 20 that are unecessary with most non rxistent
>>532859842I don't know if you're being serious or whatever but newton's 3rd law doesn't saw anything about there needing to be matter on the other side to catch whatever it is it being exerted. rocket fuel explodes and goes one way, rocket goes other way, simple as.
>>532859770So your claim changed from "rockets don't work in a vacuum" to "rockets don't work in a vacuum below 0.02 atm", is this correct?Along these lines, what is the correct vacuum that makes rocket thrusters stop working, what is the principle guiding that phenomenon, and what is the evidential basis of that claim?
>>532859923>>532859770>>532859577Also, do you think your vacuum cleaner is correctly simulating a vacuum below 0.02 atm as you yourself said is a requirement for the experiment to work?
>>532859842ok try to think about this for me.throw a 50lb chunk of metal.would be pretty small right?youll feel it push you backwards right?now throw a huge beach ball.the beach ball pushes way more air right?but you feel nothing, because it weighs nothing.you are pushing off throwing the mass of the fuel, not the atmosphere.
>>532841427Are you a stupid blind space is fake everywhere convex vectors are not a plane 3d graphics imaging proves this fake in 6os space is.fake and it's a mask and false overcharge for others it's a datelir electronics scam you are not using but one box ft able but have 20 active pieces of equipment 15.not real and charged for all 20 that are unecessary with most non existant devons island Vegas sound stage fake moon rocks space is not real Nathan Oakley jeranism went the artic not Antarctica just like stalinist russia states nland pissrael for dishonest subterfuge lying guided tours like a bad Seth Rogenmovie
>>532845067Incredible to think that two men were crammed into that washer sized tin can.
Gotta love how flat earth retards with an iq of 80 think they know how to apply Newton's laws
>>532860187wow, an actual schizophrenic instead of just a shill simply pretending
rockets actually work better in space because they don't have to push air out of the way to release pressure. with all that pressure inside the rocket and no pressure at the back where the pressure is released out the nozzle, the pressure pushes the rocket up, opposite of the direction where the pressure is released. if you didn't release the pressure the rocket would go nowhere because pressure would push equally in all directions inside it.
>DA WOCKET CANNOT FLY IN VAKJOOM
The pod farts out some confetti,and then a crane lift up the pod.And voila, you travel from moon to earth.
>>532843946The idea that metal loses all its strength way before it melts confuses and enrages the tinfoil faggots.
>>532841427Gravity well. If you jump using your own muscles from the moon you will end up sucked by Earth's gravity.
>>532859770>>532859958>>532859923Answer the questions. Don't dodge or cope.
instead of quickly looking up the answer online you made this threadhow stupid are you, OP? the answer is quite simple, go read how they did it
>>532860264Oh hey this dude did the same math as me. >>532842056 It all converges
>>532844148Sweet, never knew about the other two. Thanks anon
>>532856005Because the Mercury and Apollo astronauts were the cream of the crop of hyper competent Anglo saxon men. Unlike you, cretura de los americanos
>>532845696>insanoflexKek, I guess it would be. Yeah, people are retarded, modern humans have no dreams anymore. When people did want to reach the stars, the found a way to do it. Everyone now has everything they need a thumb stroke away on their screen
>>532859577>>532858207This leaf is claiming that the air around the vacuum cleaner's nozzle is below 0.02 atm by the way. You always get the funniest shit when you ask flerfers for evidence, it's really that easy.
>>532856005They don't rendezvous directly from the ground into the orbiting vehicle. That's not how an orbital rendezvous works. They go into a lower orbit, so basically they are going faster than the orbiting vehicle. Then they can catch up with it. As they get closer they raise their orbit until their orbits are basically matched. If you overshoot you just stay in the lower orbit and wait to catch up again.You can run out of fuel if you fuck up over and over (or food if you turbo fuck up), but it isn't a straight one shot right up to the orbiter or you'll die.
>>532841427Micrometerite and space ice hail and meteroites destroyed rockets 66 milliion mph crap blistering shredding it Polaris never moves
>>532861208>Polaris never movesIf we are travelling through space and we're aligned with the direction of travel of the solar system, why should there not be a star that stays almost completely stationary?
>>532853945>How do they take off from the moon if fire has no oxygen in a vacuum?How to drive a submarine when there is no air at all?
>>532861444The stars do move technically, but it's such a slow timeline it's not worth talking about. It takes 250 million years to orbit the galaxy once, and all the stars are orbiting with us keeping fixed positions from us.Anyway, the bigger factor is that the earth has this thing called precession. When something spins, and there's a bit of torque on it, the thing will start precessing. Demonstration here:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H98BgRzpOMSo the earth has some oblique forces acting on it, from the other planets, from the moon, from the sun. And remember the earth isn't perfectly round either, it's an oblate spheroid. Because of all this, the direction of the earth's angular momentum changes over time. It wobbles like a top.They say that in the Middle Ages there was no "north star". And in the Bronze age, the north star was something else. Polaris being the north star is a recent thing, that may last another 500 years or so before precession carries us away.
>>532861444>and we're aligned with the direction of travel of the solar systemActually not even required nod that I think about it.Some star has to be closest to 0 degrees north.
>>532845269zased
>>532846352
Why engage with these midwit simpletons? They don't even have a trace amount of self awareness to understand they don't know what they're talking about. As an astrophysicist, we call Moon Landing Deniers dumb mooks, slapped grim shores or - my personal favourite - lazy poppets. These are all I side jokes that one won't fully appreciate unless you've spent 10,000 hours in the lab so I don't expect anyone on this message board to jive with my chat.>Houston, we have a problem... The midwits have jobbied the bird
>>532859577This has to be the most retarded thing I've ever seen.
>>532849395Space as we know it is fake retardEvolution has zero real evidenceDinosaur bones in museums are fake to be fairNuclear bombs are 100% fake just a myth to scare goyim from taking earth backJapan was hit by fire bombs and tntDid you know Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the two most Christian places in Japan with the highest white population when the Jews bombed them? Also did you know the Jesuit temples in the center of the bombing zone were relatively unscathed and none of the Jesuits were harmed?Crazy, the Jewish news reporters on the scene taking pictures of fake shadow people graffiti they made were also unharmed, no radiation sickness, nothingDid you know a scientist swallowed a plutonium rod to prove radiation was harmless? He was unharmed and lived into old age past 80 dying of natural causes
>>532845793>Inb4 some bootlicker says they were suffering from some post-space fatigue syndrome due to the zero-g lol.They could be possibly experiencing a form of PTSD from how they spent that entire time knowing they could die at any second because of the infancy of spaceflight
>>532862614>slapped grim shoresgonna need the history of this one
>>532862809They had spent 21 days in quarantine after their flight, they were debriefing the entire time and undergoing medical tests. Would have been brutal. They also said there was so much science work to do they could never enjoy the whole thing, there was a feeling like they "missed it". I'm sure there was pride, but there really wasn't much "exuberance" to feel at this precise moment.
>>532843793it's kind of retarded that they didn't pre-program it. double retarded that they didn't pre-program it after the first failure, and triple retarded that they didn't pre-program it after the second failure
