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This is an existential crisis.
https://www.npr.org/2026/04/09/nx-s1-5779627/birthrate-united-states-babies-immigration
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>>532850388

Bitches be like dat
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>>532850388
Because the consequence for breeding is DEATH.
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>just go bankrupt because you jizzed in a lady
no.
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>>532850388
>work more to have less disposable income
>why no fucking?
People who have time don't have money. People who have money don't have time.
Im 42, and the last time I talked to a new female that I was interested in sexually was maybe when I was 27. I don't even remember what it's like to talk to a woman. How the fuck am I supposed to procreate with one.
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>>532850472
>>532850570
>>532850660
We're going extinct, aren't we?
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>>532850388
Women are whores and the economy is fucked
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>>532850731
yeah, this is the capitalism-is-eating-itself stage that all the marxists warned about
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>listen to feminist roasties and raise the age of consent, outlawing the proper fucking of the girls that men most want to fuck
>OMG WHY IS NOBODY FUCKING HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED
Americans are niggercattle and deserve this.
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>>532850388
Boomers don’t give a fuck.
So why should we?
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>>532850731
does it matter?
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>>532850388
2006, yeah we were all white back then
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>>532850388
Where do you even find a decent woman that is worth dating, putting a ring on their finger, and starting a family? In today's climate is marriage even worth it for men?
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What's in it for me? I don't care about kids or sex. I don't care if the white population (or human population for that matter) drops off a cliff.
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>>532850388
I'm not American, but I have traveled the world and the seven seas.
Met and fucked hundreds of women raw, since everybody's looking for something.
Some of them wanted to use me, and some of them wanted to be used by me. I was fine with either.
Now a father of at least 40+ confirmed mini-me's, I don't pay a dime and keep my head up, moving on.
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>>532850388
As per usual there are multiple factors this is not happening only in US but almost everywhere.

Economical - Simply everything cost a lot of money and getting a woman and a divorce cost even more.
Social - Social Media and Porn, people are lacking communications and they are hang on those retarded shit so if you see people outside they are looking into jewphone instead of doing anything else.
Woman Rights - Woman can work and vote so instead of producing kids they are doing what men should.
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>>532850388
All the bitches are fat and ugly
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>>532851044
>decent woman
Accept that all women are whores and move on. Never ask a woman her body count. You won't like it, even if yours is twice her number. Marriage is completely worthless if you don't want kids, and if I didn't have 3 myself, I never would have gotten married.
t. guy with a body count of 130-180
>>532851055
If you enjoy rotting with no purpose, there is absolutely nothing in it for you. Continue on and good luck.
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>>532850388
>WHY AREN'T AMERICANS FUCKING?
womens rights
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>>532851160
Do women even know how to cook for their boyfriend or husband anymore?
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>>532850388
Americans are, white births were a majority in 40 states in 2025, up from 21. That 750,000 is how many illegal alien anchor babies were being shat out of their animal mothers every year.
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>>532850388
>women
I'm good. Single is best.
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>>532851275
They know how to cuck not cook
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>>532851198
>muh purpose
You are a golem.
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Nobody has money to just survive let alone take care of and raise a kid
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>>532850388
It’s mostly niggers and Hispanics not having kids
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>>532850660
When has it EVER been the case that having more children has resulted in MORE disposable income..?
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>>532851499
this is the real cause, the general public has been squeezed and taxed to death their is simply no money left to give, even if i wanted kids and a wife to take care of, how can i when people like trump say things like "$200 barrels of oil isn't that bad" "we're not lowering the housing prices for people who don't work hard and don't deserve it" "we're not building new homes either" where is they money coming from for a family when i don't even have healthcare, im broke as fuck just barely making it i don't know how you guys are surviving like this.
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>>532850660
I have money and time, but I'm a boring person with a bad personality or whatever so women won't talk to me.
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>>532851589
That's not true at all. Whenever I see black and hispanic couples they have definitely more then one kid with them however when I see white couples they either have no kids or one at the very most.
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>>532850388
My body my choice. I don't owe you tax slaves to fight in wars for gay marriage.
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>>532851453
>muh purpose
What do you live for, then? Genuinely speaking, you sound like a nihilistic stoner niggerfaggot. Is it simply to play video games, eat food, and get taxed by the government?
lol, and you call me the golem
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>>532850388
not my problem I'm planning on 5 and I'm already on number 2

desu it's from women and young men thinking raising a kid is hard at all, imagine believing that and seeing niggers shit out 7 of them

if a nigger can spawn humans you sure as fuck can too and easier
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>>532850388
OP doesn't understand that fucking =/= babbies.
it's up to the women to decide to make you a father legally.
no man can make a woman a mother legally
you could say this is the result of late stage feminism.
>What happen to the the shining future which was shown in fictional stories and fictional tv shows
reality was attached and installed
>CHEF'S KISS, PERFECTION
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Sex? Like some kind of disgusting.. european?
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>>532850388
Jews
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>>532850660
This isn’t anyone’s fault but yourself. You had problems already in your 20s.
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>>532850731
Probably, unless we make a white ethnostate. Honestly we just need one the size of a European country
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>>532851627
Im talking about the economy
>working more and having less
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>>532851816
No, it's legit having to do with Jews ripping our economy off and promoting feminism. Also bringing in third world shitskins to suck our welfare dry
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>>532851627
Baby boomers dumb fuck
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>>532850388
>the average age of Founding Father Declaration of Independence signatories was mid-20s

The country wasn't designed around crypt keepers, or direct election of Senators.
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>>532850388
I read net migration was negative too.
Good. This country is crowded as fuck and maybe - just maybe - if this trend continues, there will be room in the future for our children.
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>>532851926
This is true but there are too many chameleon retards to even count, they would subvert their way into such a population. I think the secret is claiming Caribbean islands by force
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>>532850388
for a start stop mutilating your babies' dicks then maybe they won't feel numb when you fuck
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>>532851105
good song
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>>532850388
>This is an existential crisis.

Investing in Americans is hard, really hard! I guess we'll just have to import even more shitskins!
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>>532850388
they are already getting fucked by inflation
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>>532851732
>muh copes
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>>532850388
Women are worthless trash.
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>>532850388
Lol, lmao even
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>>532850388
>WHY AREN'T AMERICANS FUCKING?!?!
Because America's "MEN" are tolerating the jew.
Once the men get up and destroy the synagogue of satan utterly and to the last the country will heal. As long as a single jew lives, this system will continue to terraform itself into hell.
Destroy the jew.
There can be no peace, no healing, until the jew is destroyed.
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>>532850388
social media induced white guilt
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>>532851732
>>532851198
Your kids will likely be killed in the coming years, I hope you're at least doing something besides accumulating worthless paper and 1s and 0s.
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>>532850388
The better question is, how come even non-white fucking is not compensating for the vertical drop in white numbers? Why do Tyrone and Miguel not knocking up da hoes?
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>>532850388
GOSH I WONDER IF THE VAX HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT????????????
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>>532852218
Feminism and female education is a nuke against fertility
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>>532852109
lmao, ok prepper faggot.
don't make me tap the sign
>>532852068
you're dismissed, genetic dead end.
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>>532852323
Your faggot kids will always be useless tax cattle.
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>>532851044
For some reason I want to go get a $4.99 rotisserie chicken.
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>>532850388
I asked myself 'would *I* date me?"
and the answer was a moment to reflect on.

men were conquerers once upon a time.
now to seek our greatest opponent, we need look no further than the mirror.
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>>532852448
Don't get why you're so mad at me, it's not like I made you be a useless faggot retard. You chose that life yourself :)
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There is a direct inverse correlation between female education and birthrates.

Women as both teachers and students has been a curse for all of civilization.
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American wome prefer black and Indian men. Only whites are going extinct.
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Everyone in here is going to focus on socio-economics, but here is the truth: raising kids (well) takes work, dedication, sacrifice, and selflessness.

We live in the most selfish age ever, thanks to modern technology. Young people are lazy and only care about themselves. Old people do the same shit now as well - you see 40-50 year old women still harping about self care and all this.

When you have kids, none of that stuff matters. Your self care should be raising your kids. Whatever part of you that still wants to be you needs to go away; your energy, attention, money and time needs to be poured into your children. You get out what you put in.

So simply put, too many people just don’t have what it takes these days to raise a child. There stuck in arrested development. They’re selfish.

Which is sad because parenthood is really a joy in life that cannot be substituted. It’s part of the human experience; in many ways the greatest part. And people have been tricking into thinking about life in terms of ROI and convinced having children is a drain, or something to be afraid of or dread.

It’s a real damn shame, because you have grown adults like Seth Rogan walking around talking about how great it is to be 40 and child free. And these people don’t realize they’ll never have a complete life without them.

Have kids and love them. They’ll love you 100000x more than anything on the internet can.
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>>532852473
Thanks for your wisdom Bill.
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>>532851044
If you have not found her in high school or college, you will.never do.
It just was not meant to be.
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>>532851198
What difference does it make -
one dick or 100 dicks?
It is the same thing. The hole has been drilled
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>>532850388
Sorry I'm not there anymore.
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>>532850388
Most of the immigrants to Europe and the States are male and there's a lot. It'll work itself out.
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>>532852724
if you're honest to god looking for a virgin and you're over the age of 21 (and you live in the USA and not bumfuck kosovo or something) then you're retarded, and need to come back to reality. Please.
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>>532850388
nobody wants to make another slave for the meatgrinder
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>>532850388
The rise of social media has turned us into a society of narcissists. Every average ass motherfucker in the world thinks they're a fucking 8 and deserves a 9 or 10 and refuses to accept anything less. Women with butterfaces and no domestic skills all expect to marry secret agent cowboy millionaires and schlubby out-of-shape guys working entry level jobs all expect to pull supermodels.
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>>532852502
You're the one going out of your way to try and find some kind of justification for your useless existence. It's embarrasing.
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>>532850388
America is an expensive shitty work camp and anybody with any sense wouldn’t bring an innocent child into this hellscape.
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>>532852572
This.

But the big problem is pulling women through on that. I came from a tough generation for that but I was one of the people that pulled one of the women through. I never walked on eggshells. She broke up with me several times but always called back 24hrs later. But she stopped acting like a brat when she realized she was on the same career course as a wealthy single childless woman. I talked with this woman who was a founder of the company my wife worked for. The woman was cashing out her stocks, retiring at 50 and traveling the world. But she seemed very melancholy. I talked with my wife about it and she said the woman was only ever excited about work. The male founders all had children, some of them came up into the company. But she is hoping to find a man while traveling, because she was always a workaholic and generally unapproachable. My wife saw other women in the company growing that way but many of them wouldn't come out as millionaires as the 50 year old founder. My wife dumped it all just to be a house wife for a middle income husband. And she is much more fulfilled, or so she has said.
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anti natalists chads ALWAYS win in the end, remember that
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>>532853197
Nah, it is cheap and easy here. That is why most children come out of low or no income houreholds.
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>>532850388
>Every day, same threads
This place sucks now.
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>>532853107
lol, justify your own existence then? You can't right? You just consume Super Mario, Funko Pops and pay taxes? lmao, what a waste. Were you always a failure or was it your upbringing
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>>532853245
They always die clutching their luxury philosophies.
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Welcome to the state of europe, it is simply inevitable for first world countries. And i bet vast majority of actual births are from browns
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>>532851198
>It's your purpose/duty/whatever to be a slave to the system so your kids can later be slaves to the system, and their kids can be slaves to the system, and their kids can be slaves to the system
Do hylics really?
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>>532853221
Well at least she was smart enough to recognize that from watching other people.

You either get busy living or get busy dying, and having a family and keeping a spouse requires agency, compromise, sacrifice.
People are going to continue to bitch and give a laundry list of why it’s a rigged game. But the fact of the matter is you can’t win if you don’t play. And people these days don’t even have the stones to sit at the table.

It’s sad.
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>>532853394
If you genuinely think that way, why not kill yourself?
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>>532851816
ok retard. So how about the other millions in his position that aren't having kids that wasn't an issue 20 years ago, RETARD?
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>>532850388
occupied people don't breed

until zog is gone this will continue
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>>532850388
You want me to have kids? Make it worth my while.
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>>532853373
Why? There's no need to justify it, especially not to a golem like you.
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>>532850388
-having babies with nigger fuckers
no thanks
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>>532853469
>feminism is not a threat
>emotional fluency
lol
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>>532853469
What are the odds that this ugly bitch has reproduced?
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>>532854056
Why would I?
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Explain this: Why is everyone screeching about birth rates when we have billions being poured into AI to bridge the workforce gap anyways?
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>>532854188
because if life doesn't have a purpose...why live in it to be "tax cattle".
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>>532850388
>Deport 6 gorillion illegals and keep any from coming in
>No more anchor babies
OH MY HECKIN SCIENCE NOT THE BIRTHRATE!!!
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>>532850388
Don't want to get MeToo'd
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>>532854276
Life being a gift from God without purpose means you are free to define that purpose.
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Like the rest of the West you will just import more jeets. Enjoy.
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>>532851044
It won't be worth it until the divorce courts & sperm banks are burned to the ground.
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>>532853469
>"Women like me aren't the problem. You men are the problem! I should not have to lower my standards. You should"
All the cognitive dissidence and gaslighting in the world is not going to rejuvenate her womb.
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>>532854276
I don't understand that retarded leap in logic, there's no reason to kill myself.
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>>532850388
>WHY AREN'T AMERICANS FUCKING?!?!
why do people keep asking this question as if it hasn't been answers a thousand times over? do you just not like the answers you've heard?
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>>532850388
no means no
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>have to roll better than 95% of men in the genetics lottery
>waste the best years of my life away to become a debt slave so I can get a 6 figure job.
>basically have to have a part-time job working out so that a women won't see more than an inch of flab on my skin
>risk life, injury, limb and sanity all for her sake while she is expected to literally do nothing
>all of this and if I'm lucky I might be able to get a 5/10 women with a significantly lower IQ for a good 20 to 25 year marriage before she fattens herself to a landwhale and divorces me.
Or
>Stop giving a fuck, fap to anime and furries and laugh at stupid whores ruining their life and getting beaten and raped by thirdies.

Not much of a choice here really.
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Animals don't breed in captivity and that's because they and us only have children if they feel confident in the future, slaves by their nature do not. That's not even getting into the economic problems or the social problem of feminism. That make's three major blocks for everybody.

Feminist women
Ridiculous costs
White genocidal government who your kids would have to live under
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>>532854673
>no reason to kill myself
>I'll be a tax cattle forever I have no purpose
I'm not surprised you can't follow the logic. Take care of yourself, my little homeless retard.
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>>532850388
REMINDER:
You dont need a high birthrate to maintain a socialist country without education

You are currently being surpassed by the one socialist country you actually traded with instead of killing with sanctions.

Get a clue. Stop supporting capitalist jews. You can be socialist and still have private property and free enterprise at the same time instead of following marx’s entire philosophy.
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>>532851275
It's offensive to expect a woman to cook but not offensive to expect a man to pay for everything
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>>532854250
you need people to pay into social security and you need to consumers to buy your product. line must always go up!
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Feminism is a slow-burn Extinction Cult
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>>532854862
*without immigration
Fuck that’s a funny typo (phone)
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>>532851275
Mine makes coffee
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T- levels are down and women work too much.

or we don't listen to the right music anymore. The automations and quantizations don't motivate the deeper callings of connection

who doesn't feel like breeding when they're relaxed in their quest for procreation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ilsk3YVVrNk&t=168s
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>>532850388
stop giving jobs to shitskins and the birth rates will be higher
Shitskins pop out poop children despite them being able to afford it because of the gibs
Whites have to be careful because no one is helping us out; in fact, they are trying to kill us all
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>>532850570
Have you tried the new blackberry dr pepper? Local store had some diet ones half off it was pretty good while I was stoned painting warhammer figures
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>>532850388
Fewer amerimutt births means less of pic related
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>>532850388
It is immoral to reproduce. This is a basic morality test.
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>>532851926
>average age of Founding Father Declaration of Independence signatories was mid-20s
gtfoad dumbfuq faggot gaylord tranny
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>>532850768
Basically this. Women are all sharing the same 10 diseased dicks, everything is expensive and no employer pays jack shit.
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>>532852285
Well
During covid there were some vaxxed guys who claimed the vax made their junk not work c
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>>532850388
>why aren't americans fucking
Women don't like me. Not my problem. Cope about it.
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>>532852572
A bachelor lives like a king but dies like a dog
A married man lives like a dog but dies like a king
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>>532851627
lol you have no idea how niggers and mexican exist do you?

imagine not working, just fucking, blasting a nigglet out of your stink hole every 9 months and then getting 5k more dollars a year every year that you do it.
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>>532853469
What a fucking joke
Women only want your wallet
Theyre literal whores without saying that part out loud
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>>532853619
>If you genuinely think that way, why not kill yourself?

Not enjoying life does not equate to wanting to die.

Living things are hardwired to avoid pain and death at all costs.

Suicide attempts are not guaranteed to work and may backfire and lead to an even worse quality of life.
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>>532850388
NOOO THATS LESS FORESKIN TO HARVEST
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>>532854836
>too stupid to get it
Will do, not wasting anymore of my time on you, retard.
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>>532854862
The issue isn't capitalism, its the financialization of the market. There's a big difference between capital that creates value through productive activity and capital that extracts value through financial claims on that activity. The financial layer has systematically colonized the productive economy.
The financial system does not build houses.
>It finances their construction at a cost that transfers an increasing share of the house's value to the financial layer over the life of the mortgage.
It does not educate children.
>It finances their education at a cost that transfers an increasing share of their productive output to the financial layer over the life of the student loan.
It does not provide medical care.
>it finances access to medical care at a cost that transfers a share of household income to the financial layer through insurance premiums, deductibles, and the administrative fuckery
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>>532850388
>EVERY single woman follows feminism to some degree
>Currency has been devalued by Jews
>Divorce is encouraged
Big fucking mystery. Maybe we should call Sherlock Holmes and Batman.
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>>532856957
>Big fucking mystery. Maybe we should call Sherlock Holmes and Batman.
The tradcons got on it and deduced that it's all men's fault. Pack it up, case closed.
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>>532850388
Why am I not fucking? Idk where to look for them, and my dumbass finally figured out that I don't have troubles when I don't tense up and stress over what to say and just let myself be a bumbling smiling retard around women. Women are very very good at picking up tense nervousness, which makes them nervous, which makes you more nervous and so on.
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>>532854815
Whipipo, actually brits, expanded their habitat and their population grew. For three generations their habitat has been shrinking. Now they have to share the little they have with fellow whites.
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That’s with 100 million fewer people as well. About a 1/3rd the country right now is illegals and immigrants.
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>>532850388
sex is illegal unless you are 10/10 facially and 200cm tall and earn 1 million dollars a month. What did idiots think would happen by giving rights to women?
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>>532850388
females are shirking their side of the social/civilization contract.
so why should females be allowed to have rights when it's men who build everything and have to put their lives on the line to defend it while females don't even uphold their side of duty (i.e. bearing children)?
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>>532856767
>Muh rent, muh health insurance, mu schoofees
Your realeconomy is more fake and jay than the rough and tumble of high frequency trading and nft printing. Where is man as creator; adventurer teams of men bound in Logos and action? Nobody want play your game of lowly economic unit
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>>532858027
You just have to have the predator mindset. I’m not saying I do, but I see it all the time in guys who get laid. They don’t give one fuck about women. They will tell them anything they want to hear and if a woman is not responding to their sexual advances they move onto the next.

The monogamous guys never exercise their options and as a result care too much about what one women thinks about them instead of not giving a fuck about what any woman thinks like all the guys getting laid in the top 5%.
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>>532858083
There should be a law that women cannot go to college until they have given birth to two children. Everything they do is fucking backwards. They become doctors which takes like 8 years and then they get married and retire early. It’s a huge waste of resources and time.
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>>532850388
You can fuck without having babies, you realize?
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>>532858273
>>532858083
Put down the dystopian teen novel books
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>>532850388
I work full time, and that on top of other general life stress?
Bros, I don't remember the last time I've even gotten a full erection. Even if I had a 10/10 fall onto my lap begging me to breed her, I couldn't do it. I'm so exhausted.
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>>532850388
Mutts really separate their babies from their mothers after birth? Lmao.
>skin on skin contact? that'll be $320 please
>separate the babies from their mother to a big goy-farm
>cut off the tip of boy's dicks
>fucked 6 ways til sunday by kikes from there on
>get kicked out of their house by their loving parents on 18th birthday
>MURICA
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>>532850388
all from whites btw. brown births haven't changed
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>>532852050
fuck. fucking pg&e had a power thing as i was doing the captcha.
anyhow. he ain't wrong is he
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>>532858819
imagine living just a few generations back in pre-industrial world for a second.
juxtapose it to your condition.
you're a weakling that shouldn't have existed, dipshit.
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Dont care
Never having sex
Never having kids

Death to America
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>>532858819
It's post sex down that is killing me. It gets so bad and scary that I'm rather abstaining from it. I do flirt but right before intimacy just back down.
Idk what is wrong with me but after sex I question myself why am I doing this, will the girl get too emotionally attached and make problem out of it and there's strong urge to just leave and do something else alone while girls love to cuddle and make scary plans for the future.
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>>532850388
economic uncertainty, why is this so hard to understand?
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>>532850388
Video games and smartphones.
Ban all electricity for normies.
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>>532850388
With all this muh baby shortage, why are there still orphanages?
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>>532850388
What part of letting women into the workforce has been a disaster for mankind don't you understand?
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>>532850388
Everything is expensive and the benefits of having a kid are negative.
When you're barely getting by you can't have a kid. Used to be people were too stupid to know that.
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>>532861411
If this is a book, I can't find it. When was it released?
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>>532854059
Probably has a half nigger baby
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>>532854636
No eggs
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TOTAL BIRTHRATE COLLAPSE
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>>532852454
maybe you meant a $499 rotisserie cow
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>>532855361
>My body my choice
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>>532850770
This is the machine preparing to solve female inefficiency through Human Zootechnics, the political dressing of the one's who sign the required infrastructure into being, will be irrelevant.
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>>532850388
They are. It's just that globohomo republican faggots keep importing more pajeets and chinks
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>>532861957
Do you even search engine.
https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-great-feminization/
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The natural & universal right of childbirth costs $25000 in the USA.
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>>532851668
i have little money and some time. i will literally coach you to be more interesting... but only in return for money
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>>532851275
I would give everything if that twink was my property. Please Mr. Trump bring back slavery
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>>532850388
they fuck in the ass
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>>532850388
Well, vaxxies. You get what you got.
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>>532865931
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU00074597
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>>532850388
Vaxx has caused a massive erection shortage.
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shouldn't have been mean to incels
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>>532850388
Because American society has become a sweltering nightmare. Like almost every other developed nation on Earth.
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>>532850388
Because they need BBC. Pair white women with BBC gives instant impregnation. Only mass BBC Breeding will save american fertility
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I'll wait for furry sexbots with artificial wombs to invented.
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>>532850388
I thought the nigger and somali population was increasing?

They're 100% Americans.
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>>532850388
The current system kills birthrates. Judeo-consumerism and the extractive welfare state strips the population of both the means and the will to procreate. The more integrated into the system you are, the more beholden to it's strictures, the more it extracts from you, and the more of the normal familial rights and privileges get stripped away. Gimmigrants get a stay of execution but their children end up subjected to the same treatment. The birthrates among Mestizo immigrants born in the United States is actually even more abysmal than the white birthrate. Groids used to be the exception but even the generous payout per niglet is being ignored due to the other pressures that the system applies.
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>>532850388
Beaners getting beanbagged
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>>532866425
The American pavement ape is in decline and they have to import foreign species of jungle bunny in the hopes of keeping up the groid population.
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The world is vastly overpopulated
>most people aren't good people
>most people are unhealthy and ugly
>most people only exist because rape used to be the norm

Zero animal populations ever have had an exponential growth factor. It always grows and shrinks. Humans will have to deal with the fact that many will not reproduce. If you believe in Jesus you should try to live a pious life and reproduce. If you don't want eternal life enjoy hedonism and don't reproduce - which many are doing.
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There needs to be less people
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>>532850388
We want population down, traffic down, murder down, house prices down
But banks want line go up
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>>532850388
Rent is too damn high.
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>>532850388

Maybe it's because birth tourism went down?
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ABORTION IS MURDER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0Vlo5Ti69c
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>>532866643
>Live pious life
>Don't procreate since children are guaranteed worse life than me and I would consider condemning a soul to that objectively evil
Guess I get limbo then?
Fuckin Rocco's modern basilisk and religion really are the same mental disease
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>>532850660
Most people waste plenty of time and kids arent that expensive once they get out of diapers or you could cloth diapers and clean if you are really poor. Gross but cheaper.
I just dont want to legally be forced to give up half my things and earnings if the foid lies. Not to mention bullshit I have heard from people irl where a guy found out his wife was cheating so he swiped her phone from her hand to see text and calls then got convicted of domestic assault. Loses 65% of his paycheck, lost ability to have a firearm and the woman takes all the money meant for kids and spends it on herself. He has to buy clothes and shoes for the kids because she doesn't. Were I in his shoes I would have gone postal.
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>>532850388
This is an absolute crisis for kikes. Where are they going to get their annual harvest of foreskins from???
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>>532854467
>& sperm banks
Why? Surely it would make more sense to burn down actual banks.
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>>532850388
>pay my $1500/mo rent on a studio apartment in the boondocks, goy
>you better go to college, get certifications, and make solid connections in your network for $19/hr, goy
>why aren't you breeding more slaves, goy?
How about fuck you niggers and your boomer golem pets?
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>>532867951
Normies and semi-normies don't have that power of abstraction, they can only see one maybe two layers behind their immediate reality. For the frustrated normie beta, the problem is women and he's just smart enough to understand that the divorce courts, the police, and other organs of the system are behind women, but he's not smart enough to understand why and follow the thread back to it's (((root problem))). Moreover his anger keeps him focused on the immediate problem, so much so that he doesn't want to get the whole picture because that would get in the way of his self-righteous indignation.
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>>532850570
All of the most kid-having people I know are illiterate retards that just nut all over town and don't care. Many responsible adults of my age have no kids, mostly due to fertility issues but many by choice.
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>>532850388
yet population still go up
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>>532868400
Nta but I agree and I would even go a step further to say social media has campaigns in place to keep people in a state of shallow understanding. It's has a dual purpose as a divide and conquer tactic. Man vs woman, white vs every flavor of brown, gender nonsense, etc.
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>>532850388
The answer is socialization of benefits, but you wouldn't understand what that means, would you?
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>>532869352
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>>532870227
reverse image search
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I majored in international politics and east asian languages expecting that the department of state or other organization would have use for me, but in ZOGmerica we only hire -unironic chinese spies and pajeets with fake degrees- so my most recent job was doing overtime delivering packages while working a second job.

Thinking about getting back to school in medicine, if the debt becomes too much I'll just kms. Can'tget money from a ghost. If I knew how fucked things would get, I woulda put it all in bitcoin in 2013.
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>>532851198
>postulates that no decent woman exist
>took part in the corruption and abuse of subset of women.

you are a truly a nigger.
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>>532852285
Birt rates have been in decline for years and years
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>>532866023
Incels always existed, most of them were just shoved into armies and got slaughtered in battles for most of history.
The problem is with normies not making children, who could afford it and are young enough to handle it. They're too busy with video games and social media doomscrolling.
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>>532850388
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>>532872828
They need to be better men.
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>>532862471
>https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-great-feminization/
Yeh... and that's the first link. Makes it look like some shitty long-form article. Except those usually don't have book covers. Except the long-form article says released October 2025, and it never takes longer than about 6 weeks to show up on Anna's. Except books invariably show up on Amazon weeks *before* release, and there's nothing. So wtf. That's why I asks.
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>>532850388
https://youtube.com/shorts/pZknV73xmw8
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Jews increased their wealth extraction on the rest of the population and now people don't have enough money to procreate.
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>>532850768
You can't call them whores though. You have to say demisexual, and if you don't you're a misogynist chud.
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>>532850388
I'd rather ̶p̶l̶a̶y̶ ̶v̶i̶d̶e̶o̶ ̶g̶a̶m̶e̶s̶ shitpost on /pol/
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>>532850388
Tell the women to lose weight and go back to the kitchen
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>>532850770
>capitalism-is-eating-itself stage that all the marxists warned about
Every accusation from a leftists if either a confession or projection. It's marxism that failed due to it being completely backwards with how humans actually operate.
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raising a kid here is child abuse, it really isn't complicated
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>>532850470
Yes. Girls are a part of the problem.

>hypergamy combined with zero restraint on female sexuality
This is the cause of the so-called 80/20 rule. Women are more able to have consequence-free sex (both from pregnancy and from morality) without forming a close bond to the partner of their choice.

>internet dating
This facilitates the mechanism for the 80/20 rule. Without this, women (who are the ones in control of sex) would be limited to their social circles.

>collapse of social circles due to social media
Despite internet dating being a large part of the dating market, most people still date within their social circle, ie “friends of friends.” Social circles have continuously gotten smaller since the early 2000’s.

>closure of third spaces
Tied closely to the rise of social media. People don’t socialize in public settings.

>obesity and the collapse of marriage prospects
The prospect of a partner and the life that comes with it is an inane driver of male accomplishment. Men don’t see any prospect of marriage, so for many of them there’s no drive to achieve anything. It’s not a decision they make, it just happens. Fat women are not even viewed as sexual options for most men; they’re not even 1/10’s. They simply don’t exist.

>drop in testosterone
The effect this has on the sexual market is mostly female. Even if men had sky-high test, it’s still up to women to want to fuck them, and with everything else I laid out, it still wouldn’t happen. Sexual desire in women is a factor of their own testosterone levels, and it’s dropped in this generation of women as well.

>hormonal birth control
“Yeah I’ll start pumping my endocrine system full of artificial hormones while my body and mind are still developing and continue to do so for my entire life with zero consequences and absolutely no side effects.” t. Every women in the US.

>porn
Mens sexuality is satiated by never-ending, totally free, instantly accessible pornography.
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>>532873995
>blaming porn
Retard
Porn use would go down tremendously if men can get laid more and not risk everything
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>>532850570
Don't you get payed more via gibs by being broke?
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>>532874156
Only if you're brown or a single mother
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>>532873995
Basically, there’s no magic bullet solution because it’s not caused by a single problem. Personally, I think the drop in testosterone and ubiquitous prescription drugs (mental health drugs and hormonal birth control) are much bigger factor ls than people realize.

Did you know testosterone isn’t approved as treatment for low libido in women? The evidence for its use is overwhelming though; t. treatments for various other issues are well known to increase a woman’s libido. Yet if a girl goes to the doctor for low libido they won’t even test her t levels, much less prescribe it. They tell most women to seek counseling (I’m not joking). And the most prevalent medical treatment addresses vaginal dryness, which has nothing to do with actually wanting to fuck.

The thing is, we view our sexual desires as being within the normal bounds of our own personalities. So when a dating aged girl has low libido, she doesn’t view it as a problem. From her perspective, it’s normal. So she doesn’t even seek help.

Those are the girls who should be fucking. If not slutting around, they’d have boyfriends (which would lead to husbands and kids). But they have no interest, or a vastly decreased interest.
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>>532873995
>Fat women are not even viewed as sexual options for most men
black men love their white women big thoughbeit
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>>532874067
And if porn didn’t exist?
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>>532874531
>most
Also I said men, not animals. The blacks will fuck anything, including other men
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>>532850388
The reason is a generational effect.
Basically millenials mostly reproducing got preggers in high school.
this generally caused an aversion to child rearing becuase parents were as chilish and incompetent as their kids.
each generation is also becoming more and more dependant on tech.
theyd rather fuck a computer than a human being
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>>532850388
Kids are unaffordable in the current economy, so most people just can't afford to breed.
The only ones having kids are the poorfags who do it accidentally and then financially implode and leave a child burdening the welfare system, and people born into enough generational wealth that they can afford kids at 24 and then worry about a career at 30.

Everywhere in between isn't breeding, or if they can, they afford a single kid with some birth defect from their parents being late-30s when they were conceived.

It's all economics. A child is now something you spend your whole professional life saving for like a mortgage, but unlike a mortgage there's a biological time limit and fewer people make the cutoff each year. Life is less affordable with dual income households where both partners are college educated now than they were for singles with a highschool diploma 50 years ago. This isn't limited to the US it's happening in every developed economy the world over. Only absolute shit holes still have a birthrate above replacement.
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>>532874583
Men would invent porn, or do you want rape to happen due to millions of sexually frustrated young males? If so, based.
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>>532874583
Rape, and more sexual crimes at worst
At best you'd just have a South Korean society that'll still have collapsing birthrates and still go down the shitter but hey men will just channel the simp energy to stream thots and K-pop stars
Idiot christcuck you need to put women on a leash AND TAKE THEIR SHIT AWAY
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>>532850388
Why is this still necessary? Can't the government just create humans in a test tube and then raise them in orphanages? I don't think that should be my job.
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>>532874239
>brown
I always wondered can you identify yourself as brown? Like fill out some papers to say you're a nigger?
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>>532850388
>225 posts
>not one mention of the depopulation vaccine that was administered to 80% of the world population
at this point, the only solution is FIRE
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>>532874709
God I love insomnia chan
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>>532875035
I have the vax plus a booster and I still have a functioning dick and cum plenty.
The problem is women's rights.
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>>532875125
You must have incredibly good eyesight to be able to see the quality of your sperm with the naked eye. Respect.
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>>532851275
This nigga eating better than me.
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>>532875202
I come from a very stubborn line
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>>532852086
/thread, we are cooked otherwise.
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>>532850388
> Relationships not very stable (people sleep around more)
> Cost of living high (hard to afford kids)
> House prices high.
> Age gap not permitted as much so men can't afford family when women are young. By the time they can, the women are commited to a career they would have to give up.
> Men more useless (DEI and other discrimination is probably the primary reason for this, the HR, the hiring, the universities all discriminate against you).
> Kids becoming more expensive
> Men more careful due to getting raped by moms consistently.
> Making everything as gay as possible
> Media shows distorted view of relationships and male - female differences
> Men get targetted a lot with character attacks, trying to control their sexuality (women try to control male decision-making)
> Female sexuality also targetted indirectly (because masculinity is targetted)
> Women are often extremely controlling, expecting everybody to pander to their feelings. This always used to be like that, but men also had their ways of pushing back. This is more one-sided than ever.
I could spend the rest of my life writing. Modern politics is what is killing us. Step by step. All the way.

Soon there will be a government extremist chimpout, where they push men to do what they want through fascism.
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>>532850388
All according to plan. Elites are doing everything in their power to make sure the middle class doesn't procreate. In the future there will only be two classes: the uber-rich aristocracy master class and low iq dalit nigger slave labor class. Everyone in between will die out.
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>>532850388
bing bing wahoo flick flick giggles
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>>532850388
Because we give 10x what we give to children to old people, and stress out the young to pay for it.

By the way, China cracking down on the tutoring rat race and instituting a cool off period in divorces did more for the birth rate than any amount of gibs trads beg for did in Hungary.
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>>532875429
shut up pussy you inseminate now or you die a genetic failure forever
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>>532875858
Ok sure
Just tell the pigs to look the other way
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>>532873814
Ok, so why can't capitalists breed?
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>>532875429
Age gaps are bad for similar reasons to polygamy thoughbeit.
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>>532876075
How exactly is it bad? The same people that hate polygamy, usually promote polyamory, showing it is just agenda.

How does it work then? Male and female are same age. They can only afford a family after the male has a career (let's say 25 years old). What does the female do until then? She also gets a career.
Now she has to give up a career she worked towards for 7 years, to focus on children instead. It makes no sense.

I also think that femal attraction actually favours some amount pf age gap (usually only a couple of years, but it is also a cultural thing so it's hard to judge).
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>>532850731
One can only hope
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>>532850388
The earth is already overpopulated. It went from 2 billion to around 8 or 9 im not sure but that's a 5x increase in population. At least in America the popoulation grew over 2 fold. So that's twice as much competition and it's not that simple as capitalism as monopolized the economy making the rich richer and the poor poorer. So the middle class in America is dead, countries overpopulated, economy is hostile to the working class. So how do you raise a family coming from nothing? Which is more or less what we came from as our boomer parents didn't help us or give us anything?

You don't. It's impossible. You have kids anyway you are dooming yourself to a life of slavery.
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>>532850388
More women than ever have kids. 86% of women 40-44 currently have children, up 6% from the 2000s. They just have fewer kids. They go for 1 or 2 instead of 2 or 3.
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>>532853469
I thought she was going to take a big load due to the video angle
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>>532875035
i was wrong. there were three here that mentioned the vaxx
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>>532850388
Apart from all the logistical reasons, why the fuck would you want to create a human life and spend 18+ years teaching and caring for it just to throw it into the zogbot capitalist meatgrinder that is the United States? Lmao, I would be so depressed knowing what awaits my child in the future, I would cry myself to sleep every night. More than I do now, I mean.
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>>532876075
Shut up faggot boy
Grow up a little bit and you'll be thinking the opposite way in your late 20s
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>>532850388
>WHY AREN'T AMERICANS FUCKING?!
why is every city full?
why is quality of life going down everywhere?
why don't they built more cities for people to live in?
why are housing prices going up?
why do they inject immigration everywhere despite cities being full?
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>>532874156

A stupid tax break doesn't make a dent in the expenses and risk of having children. Having 1 children turns your agenda into a Rube Goldberg Machine when you have two working parents living paycheck to paycheck, can't afford to pay a baby sitter, can barely afford that extra room. Need to be lucky enough to have relatives willing to take care of your children.
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>>532876442
Polygamy is bad because of incest. Your kids will start fucking each other as they are from different mothers. This leads to inbreeding and strife within the family. It's really bad as men who grow up inside the family will try and take it over for their own. It's such a mess and it leads to a big genetic mess and lots of violence.
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>>532876923
>Having 1 children
*child
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>>532876442
Because large age gaps produce a sexual gerontocracy. Young men aren't as productive and motivated when they can effectively always be outbid on the bride price. This leads to more crime, often public health issues related to prostitution (if the olds are taking the women). You can see this in the difference in crime between Northern Europe, where age gaps were low, and the Med where they're higher. And old sperm isn't as healthy or fertile.

Arguably, sexual gerontocracy is part of why we're in this situation. Divorced boomer men remarried Gen X, had few or no kids with them, and constrained the dating pool for gen x and beyond, which has rippled into phenomenon like mail order brides.
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>>532876635
I'll add that it's pathetic watching 4chan try to discuss this issue. You all are just coping and trying to convince yourself the world is ending and everyone is suffering because otherwise you'd be forced to face the fact that you're one of the tiny minority of people that failed to breed, but fact is there is no crisis at hand. Women are doing fine. And plenty of people are having kids and going on to happily live their normal fulfilling lives.
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>>532850388
Because disasterous neolib and progressive policies have made american undesirable to live in.
>want to give all your paycheck to niggers, spics, Jews and bombs?
>want to pay enormous rent because 10,000 Somali rapefugees were flown into you city?

If you are a 100IQ white family with a job, the government does everything in its power to make your life miserable.
It needs niggers to depress wages, raise rent, and enable corruption.

Mass deportation will literally - as if by magic- make america a prosperous and productive society again
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>>532851627
That isn't what he said, you niggerkike.
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i thought jewmericans were loaded and rich and this is pax americana and the golden age of amerimuttia
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>>532851105
And then you woke up with jizz in your boxers again, right?
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>>532877163
Nope. We still have the SS+Medicare debt bomb that we can't inflate our way out of.
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>>532876969
Raising children in a traditional family setup is associated with higher IQ, emotional stability, academic success, and lower incarceration rates.

As children gradually begin being raised in unstable environments all those benefits will revert. It is already observable with IQ, people unable to pay student loans.
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>>532877142
>fact is there is no crisis
lol. Birth rates have plummeted to unsustainable levels across the entire world. Dude, you're retarded.
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>>532850388
yes but most of those babies were white for the first time in like 3 decades
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>>532851732
No - I enjoy spending time on hobbies and creative pursuits as well as spending time with friends and their growing families, which includes being a present, supportive uncle to their kids. I just have no desire to shoulder that responsibility in my own life. I prefer solitude in my home, and I could never have that with children or a live-in significant other.

"Purpose" is defined differently for everyone and the human condition is not a singular experience.
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>>532877023
The social contract has been broken for over 20 years now. I remember my parents not helping me into the work force after high school and infighting themselves over who rules the roost. Like my father had the money but my mother thought she ruled the house. Feminism destroyed this country. So my father was not vindicated and thus did not support me and was acting like a greedy self loathing kike.

What are you supposed to do when your parents are infighting at time when they should be supportive of you and helping you? It's not just that simple ether as America itself is ruled by jews and contaminated by its african american population. There's no social cohesion here anymore unlike in the 1950s. So who wants to go out and work with mexicans and blacks? Not me. That's what boomers didn't understand. The America the knew was dead by the 2000s and i just wanted opt out and live on internet.
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>>532877511
It's only really unsustainable because of public debt tied to welfare for the elderly.
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>>532852285
You antivax freaks are obsessed. Everything that happens you're all "see, I told y'all! The vax did it!"
Weren't all the vaxxies supposed to be dead by now?
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>>532850388
because having sex is for the brown hordes and other associated subhuman mongrels to create more tax and loosh cattle for the jew-reptilian demiurge control matrix
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>>532853285
only because of gibs, for the working goy it's hard just to survive
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>>532877988
Yes they are mid wits who just reproduce anyway and just work anyway. That's why the jews like them as they are the perfect slave caste. The jews make their money from profit schemes so they don't care if their golems live less than stellar lives or do shoddy work or have increases of violence. They don't live among them and unless you are rich yourself you will live among them. And you will be subject to their annoying traits and tendencies. For example mexicans smell like shit and eat like shit and act superior at the same time. They have no humility and don't respect personal space.
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>>532876969
I bet that is not guaranteed but is propaganda. I bet it can work. I do actually prefer monogamy, just to be clear.
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>>532850388
They are fucking more than ever, but only for the wrong reasons.
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>>532853469
What a disgusting beast. I would rather die than listen to her nagging spit flinging nigger lips for 2 minutes irl
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>>532878443
Polygamy was big in America and it caused inbreeding, this is a fact. How do i know this? Because of the Mormons. They used to do trucking and logging on forest land until the federal government made this land into national forest. So they lost their jobs and incomes. It destroyed them. How do i know this? They are all over youtube crying about it. They all run collaboration you tube channels and band together selling merch and working on their old cars. They also look inbred which is why people watch them like an oddity.
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>>532851055
>pic
I look like this and want this.
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Give men with honest jobs free houses and deny women the right to vote and get educated and you'll see the birthrates skyrocket once more.
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>>532851055
>>532879017
absolutely fucking based
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>>532850388
Same reasons Euros and East Asians aren't.
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I honestly don’t know how true this is. All of my coworkers have a minimum 3 kids. I have a few, more than I can count on 2 hands that have 5 or more. All white families. Idk dude. I almost feel like they’re trying to implant hopelessness in peoples heads to get them to not have babies but I see it first hand. There is a major baby boom going down.
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>>532854862
Fuck off bunker faggot
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>>532879126
Not going to happen as jews control the world. This is why women excel in modern society as they just have to follow the narrative and herd and they will be successful. They don't challenge anything and just work. Every male including me has huge issues but the women in my intermediate family are all doing good making money, working jobs.

Ill give you an example. My sister is a nurse. She doesn't care if she has to treat minorities or deal with them. I would never do that job wiping and touching some niggers ass. Women are like this, they don't care. My mother works and is surrounded by spics and niggers. Again, doesn't care.
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>>532878889
Just because rural americans were too braindamaged to have a healthy environment, does not mean this can be generalised.
Generalisation is only permitted like this, if it goes in accordance with left wing values. This is propaganda.
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>>532880320
They had religion and wide open spaces yet still interbred. Polygamy is a flawed construct which is why it's illegal. I know you are saying Germans can be good polygamists or even good communists or even good capitalists. Even European stock in America fell victim and cannibalized itself. Northern white Europeans practiced monogamy for a reason and usually paired for life. I know you are looking at polygamy as a possible solution to repair low birth rates but i wouldn't advise it. I'm not against what you are trying to do but it would be better to create more favorable situations for monogamy instead.
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>>532851044
Give the man who mounted this pole a raise.
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>>532851198
Boomerposting without disclosing your wife is BPD and you hate your life... curious
Eglin kikes are not sending their best
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>>532877676
So then what's the issue if a 1.2 birth rate is okay? Why are you even here?
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>>532850388
Women don’t want to carry babies for anyone less than a billionaire these days
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>>532881970
Because those children will be debt slaves so pensioners can enjoy higher standards of living than working families.
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>>532853469
Does... Does she really not understand that women and men belong to the same species? Women are not the environment doing the evolutionary selection. If men go extinct, women also go exinct. So she's really just threatening specicide in an attempt to turn men into her ideal slaves.
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>>532851044
Even this fat Jewish cunt would pop out a baby if she didn’t hold out for Billionaire Chad
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>>532850388
Oh noes!!! Not le heckin' birfrates!
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>>532853469
congratulations you select for pussy slaves and get a pussyslave society
the world deserves to burn unironically
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>>532853597
>come take this shitty deal got
>you don’t have the fucking balls to take my shitty deal got
>don’t walk off goy, you’re not a man
>why isn’t anyone a real man anymore
Burn in hell kike
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>>532879814
Funny, my mom is the same. Just doesn't mind living around sandniggers.
I take a walk outside with her, talk about all the trash on the streets these days, all the cigarette bums, the graffiti.
But she just seems surprised to hear me mention it, like it had never bothered her ever in her life, never even noticed it. And she just responds with something like "That's how it's always been, all cities are dirty".

I just don't get women in that regard, they put so much effort into their own appearances but they don't care about their direct environment at all.
Perhaps they're just completely self-centered like pic related.
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>>532884787
>all cities are dirty
she's not wrong
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>>532884787
They just like the power from working and don't want to be housewives anymore. You see that's why birthrates are tanking. They don't understand they are being used by jews as tax cattle and in tandem to destroy the white races. Money is temporary but race is forever.
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im really happy with no kids

why does this make kid havers so angry?
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Almost like flooding our country with millions of worthless shitskins who take from our welfare programs and never put anything back and who ruin our neighborhoods and schools with their mere presence which also causes housing and food prices to go up due to the extra demand their presence brings was designed to destroy our nation.
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>>532885939
You will realize the kid havers were right when you're old and there's no one around to help you when you need it most. You'll have to rely on shitskin retards who will exploit and abuse you instead and they'll call it justice while you suffer.
Enjoy, retard. You're smug now but I know what your future will be and you deserve it.
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>>532885284
Oh please

>>532885420
Many of them regret it, but only after they've gotten old and infertile of course.
Boomer women at least had the luxury of living through such immense prosperity that they could work their play-pretend jobs and have kids at the same time.
For their daughters and granddaughters it's different, the bullshit jobs are slowly drying up while only the real work remains.
But most of them still don't want to lay bricks and men don't want to lay bricks to provide for some dried up office lady in her 30's who expects a man to make 500k to provide for them.
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710,000 less anchor babies.
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>>532886161
cool story bro
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>>532852572
This

Young people dont get that when they are called "selfish", is not because they owe a kid to their parents, work or country but because is evident they are unable of thinking on other than themselves.
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>>532886262
They don't regret it anymore as they have lots of money. You don't get it. It's not clown anymore. Women and jews rule this realm. They sold out and now are in the process of cashing out. They don't care if men don't have traditional roles in society anymore as head of the household and nation. They got their money and they got their immigrant slaves. I've been through it all. And boomer men are just as much to blame for boomer women as boomer men refused to help us. At least my father did.



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