>Yeah, we'll slightly lower immigration for youBUT we WILL make your lives worse in every other way:>poor people? fuck em.>middle class people? fuck em.>standard of living? fuck it>education? fuck it>healthcare? fuck it>factory farming? yes please!>Money for israel? here you go!Is this true everywhere? It's definitely true for the UK and the US at least.It's like rich people have capitalised on people's desire to not go extinct in their own countries in order to push a load of dogshit policy onto us.
We have immigration because we economically rely on immigrants.We economically rely on immigrants because of right-wing economic policies, of the type promoted by /pol/.Americans might be brainwashed from television to believe "leftists caused mass immigration", but just like the rest of western MSM brainwashing it's pure fiction.
>>532850991When are they going to slightly lower immigration?
>>532850991Ours never even told us they would slightly lower immigrationOf all the illegitimate detestible anti white scum governments, Australia is the worst.
>>532851170>>532851175You will never have your immigration lowered when you're voting for the right-wing, even though they pander to racism. The people who are pandering to racism are simultaneously the ones promoting the right-wing economic policies which force this country to fundamentally rely on immigrants for our very survival. It's the massive, unfathomable paradox unfolding within right-wing politics all over the west for the past 10 years. It's been ridiculous and nobody recognizes the ridiculousness of right-wing rhetoric because the MSM is, in the end, absolutely backing up the right-wing narratives on these and every matters.
OHH n-
>>532851307>>>532851170>>>532851175>You will never have your immigration lowered when you're voting for the right-wing, even though they pander to racism. The people who are pandering to racism are simultaneously the ones promoting the right-wing economic policies which force this country to fundamentally rely on immigrants for our very survival. It's the massive, unfathomable paradox unfolding within right-wing politics all over the west for the past 10 years. It's been ridiculous and nobody recognizes the ridiculousness of right-wing rhetoric because the MSM is, in the end, absolutely backing up the right-wing narratives on these and every matters.PS it's "the big lie" of /pol/, too. Where people here pretend to be vehemently racist, and anti-immigration. And none of it is true. It's just empty pandering to get wealthy capitalists in power so they can implement the policies which benefit their wealthy friends. And with the full knowing of those policies necessitating infinite mass immigration in order to work. /pol/ is just a conjob and a fiction.
>>532851114It’s a two pronged attacked anon, you’re half way there. Right wing economics push migrants in Left wing social theory pushes migrants in There is no conventional escape
>>532850991This about sums up the last 10 years for me. Thougt I made it ... then 2020 came along and >OHHH N ....
>>532851114No one improves overall economically from immigrants Maybe illegal farm hands or 0-1 visas, and only some of those
>>532851401No. The "left-wing social theory", as you call it, is just the thing you and your wealthy capitalist friends created and plastered all over social media and the MSM in order to keep white people voting for you. Nothing more. None of this bullshit any basis in reality and you're just trying to blame people on the left for your own crime.
>>532851470This is why you people are utter jokes, whom no one would ever take seriously other than (I'm sorry but...) uneducated rural people who have been deprived of formal education by the republican party, to the point where they simple do not know better anymore. And those people are your victims, whom you target and exploit the fundamental ignorance or naivety of with denials of the most basic and indisputable facts..about our world, or economy.
>>532851581>>532851470>This is why you people are utter jokes, whom no one would ever take seriously other than (I'm sorry but...) uneducated rural people who have been deprived of formal education by the republican party, to the point where they simple do not know better anymore.>And those people are your victims, whom you target and exploit the fundamental ignorance or naivety of with denials of the most basic and indisputable facts..about our world, or economy.PS your unwillingness to recognize the reasons behind mass immigration are because you do not want it fixed. You do not want it stopped. You can sit here posting posturing "anti-immigration" rhetoric on /pol/ until the sun burns out from the sky. But if you're misleading and misinforming people not to know the reasons why mass immigration has happened, then you're very intentionally preventing them from fixing the issues.YOU'RE the open border pieces of shit you pretend to oppose here on /pol/ and only your precious rural voters with no education do not understand that....
>>532850991People of the oppositions tend to frame their arguments in zero sum games where they are only 100% right and you are 100% wrong. Absorb this and realize why it is pointless in this frame to argue with most of the opposing side in any debate. They will move goalposts and change initial terms of argument to only supposedly 'win' any argument, whether they actually argued or convinced their opponent of their initial argument.
>>532851307>>532851394leftist ended White Australia Policyneo conservatism and neo liberalism is not right wing and are at the end of their life so please, save it for plebbit.
>>532851494>you and your wealthy capitalist friends You’re reaching Anon, slow down a moment. You should assume things about others so quickly, I’m quite poor and have very few friends. Almost every left leaning person I know personally is extremely pro-immigration. “They have a right to make their lives better by coming here.” Before you go off about that statement, I recognize that it is because of capital distribution, but the reality of the situation is that the average leftist wants more immigrants coming into our countries
>YOU'RE the open border pieces of shit you pretend to oppose here on /pol/ and only your precious rural voters with no education do not understand that....Not to mention a few boomers who just can't think, in any fashion, beyond what western MSM propagandizes / brainwashes them to believe.
>>532851765Terry, you magnificent bastard. You just saved my life.
>>532851783shouldn’t*
>>532851783No. You're not poor. You're paid propagandists of wealthy billionaires here on /pol/. Nothing more. And your pretenses of being otherwise are profoundly false.>>532851765No one's telling you leftists are "white supremacists" or "white nationalists". However, I promise you that whatever you believe about "leftists being the causes of mass immigration in any country in the west" are your own brainwashing talking points or ones which you've genuinely internalized from a lifetime of western MSM propagandizement.
>>532851470>No one improves overall economically from immigrants Nigger this is just categorically wrong. There are a thousand arguments against mass immigration but it's objectively good for economic output. No party wants to be the one that takes the economic hit that reducing immigration brings, so they pass it on. The Conservatives in the UK ran again and again promising less immigration but always cucked out on actually lowering it. People got sick of it and that's why Reform took over.
>>532850991Commie thread
>>532852012MSM brainwashed retard who can't think for himself post
>>532851882Alright Anon, I can see that you’re a schizo and unwilling to engage honestly. You will never NEVER get someone to agree with you by being so belligerent. Enjoy angrily typing at ghosts all day faggot. I hope you heal.
>>532851987>it's objectively good for economic output. it isn't.
>>532852071Everyone complaining about the economy is a commie.
>>532851882>a lifetime of western MSM propagandizement.he hasn't watched the Yuri Bezmenov interview. that subversion was commie
Unironically late stage capitalism. Society has been min-maxed. Immigrants exist to keep the ponzi going with the bonus of minimizing certain things and maximizing others.
>>532852096Yeah, he's a guy from /x/, he posts on /pol/ often. See pic.
Ergo we need to do natsoc
>>532852403>Immigrants exist to keep the ponzi goingthis is demonstrably not true because they consume far more entitlements than they contribute. many electorates all over the west were have been told for thirty years that immigration was necessary or the retirement age would have to be increased. and what happened? both increased, of course, because the reason for immigration is not economic.
>>532852796>this is demonstrably not true because they consume far more entitlements than they contributeAnd yet the rich keep getting richer (in absolute and relative terms) which is the only things that matters to TPTB. Also decreases cohesion through D&C which decreases risk of revolution.
This is correct and why just I troll /pol/ now for wasting my time. I vote far left now too. Comfy. Winning.
>>532854812they get richer in spite of not because of immigration. a very small group of people (ngo-bureaucrat-politician complex) get riche directly because of immigration.
Ive never seen an illegal immigrant nor ice even once
>>532855578>a very small group of people (ngo-bureaucrat-politician complex)exactly the people who make decisions
>>532852144>More workers = more production = more spending = higher GDPYou can't argue this, which is why you didn't even try to provide a counter argument.
>>532855693yes my point is it's not some capitalist pig twirling his mustache deviously while importing infinity shit skins to work in his mills. it's lefty charities, politicians, bureaucrats.
>>532850991US poor or 3rd world poor. In America you can learn how not to be poor and not be poor anymore. 3rd world poor you can learn to be the smartest person on earth and if you don't leave you very well still could be desperately poor. No made up money is not as bad as there is no water within 15 miles of where I live and the soil won't produce anything.
>>532855813The connections are more entangled than you think they are, many "capitalists" are only profitable/liquid because of govt handouts and bailouts, de iure or de facto.
>>532855791no country that let immigration rip experienced any sort of GDP growth. canadian GDP has remained flat for over ten years despite breaking all immigration records. >More workers = more production = more spending = higher GDPthis itself is laughable because it assumes any modern western economy is reducible to such antiquated notions as "workers" "producing". if you want an argument, then please refer to the last 30 years of world history. every argument that was ever made for globalism has been defeated by the history of globalism itself. what's the point of larping as a lib in 2026?
>>532851175>Ours never even told us they would slightly lower immigrationMember me again how many Australians "passed" Covid goverment test? 95% ?
>>532850991I have seen to /brit/ and its consistently the lowest IQ goblin posting I have ever seen. I can understand the sentiment of hating brits.
>>532851114we rely on immigrants because farmers only offer the jobs to immigrants.
>>532855993>canadian GDP has remained flat for over ten years despite breaking all immigration records.Bro look shit up before you spout dogshit. Even after the massive hit that was Covid it's still grown by a lot.https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/canada-gdp/I'm not a globalist and I'm not pro mass immigration. I just don't deny facts. There's a reason they keep pushing this shit, and it's because it makes their pockets fat.
>>532850991All political parties in the west are treasonous. They no longer work towards the betterment of their own people, and are taking their citizen's birthright and giving it away to foreigners.They will replace us with a serf class of unthinking mud people who will work like ants with no ambition, while the ruling class live in absolute luxury.
>>532856608people don't engage honestly with anything. watch him say the numbers are wrong and restate his script
>>532851882Welp, somebody explained it to you in plain English, and you're still retarded, so personally, I'm for killing you at this point.
>>532851581>>532851721(((Formal education)))It's (((rich people)))Stop arguing semantics commie
>>532850991its very simple >the rich steal trillions from the working class >the poor steal their capped handouts from the working class >the working class gets usery raped and robbed via tax and devaluing dollar but is too busy working their ass off to do anything about itthe jews are fucking cunts man
>>532850991Real greaseball shit
They come with smilesStaying out of trouble? I’m a union delegate
Vinny I got you peppers and onions
You dizzy motherfucker you what warm up the car got a better shot letting him drive the car
Right away I could tell he didn’t want them. I didn’t say a word
>>532856738Appreciate the outside input. Sometimes chatting to these brainlets makes me feel insane.
>>532856608You're both looking at the wrong metric anyway.The gross GPD of the nation is just what it produces.The GDP -per capita- tells you if people are benefiting from that.If we look at the GDP per capita, we can see that mass migration props up the gross GDP, whilst tanking the per capita metric.
>>532851114You are a dumb nigger hitler was leftisr economic no on used you marxist shit words
>>532851114Wrong inbred social credit ch Douglass tsts leftist according to trad polsci polsu is shit anyway
>>532850991Everything sucks here and people know it. Everyone is gouging everyone else. No prisoners. There are no human beings here only fake, shuffling conmen and fake shuffling bitches. Everyone is being gouged. From my experience most people in Australia are well trained not to say a thing. So the whole place exists in this kind of hellscape if disingenuousness. Everyone is a cunt. Everyone is treated like a cunt. The country is over. The new Australia is an indian, african, sub continental, muslim, south sea island polynesian, towel head, brown hell.
>>532851114Oh shit it's this fag again. It's been a while since I've seen this pattern of posts.
