Assuming the Artemis crew survives reentry, where does the US space program go from here? SLS doesn't have a promising future, it was just a make-work project mandated by congress, not designed to fulfil any mission. It's so heavily downgraded from the original Ares V rocket that it can't do much besides this lunar flyby.Does everything come down to Elon Musk and what Starship ends up being capable of?
>>532855279I'm not a NASA fan since Major Von Braun left. Imagine planning a whole Mars program with just a slide rule from your prison cell.
>>532855279i thought elon would be launching a starship every month when he won the election, but the last starship launch was almost 6 months ago. jeff bezos will land on the moon before elon can finally figure anything out
>>532855279Nasa's future is deep space rovers powered by RTG's sadly, which is cool but exclusively the domain of nerds. Doesn't look to be a near term future for human exploration beyond LEO tourism imo
>>532855279The SLS would probably continue as the capsule launcher for crews. If the spacex star ship ever becomes operational it could launch the lunar landers and other equipment in un crewed launches.
>>532855279There is no Artemis crew.Iran will not survive re-entry.You heard it here first.
>>532855279Well next step is building a rocket than can fire 20,000 jeets into the sun. Then, hopefully, by 2030, we can start periodic monthly launches. With any luck, we can get it down to a weekly launch, and then ideally a daily one.
>>532855279>where does the US space agency go from hereMy guess is that they will go to space
>>532855409Space X is 90% of global launch mass of LEO. Cope how you need to shitskin.
>>532855279>when she sees a throbbing BBC
>>532855425They cancelled the funding for most of the unmanned deep space missions to do this moon mission.Isn't production of the isotope used in RTG's shut down?
>>532855509Starship will never get to orbit. Screencap this.And yes, orbit. Not sub-orbital
>>532855404Read up on the Mars Direct mission architecture and subsequent reference design missions. The Martian movie borrowed a lot from it, totally viable with 1980's technology but absolutely zero political will to do it.
>>532855279mars bruh
>>532855594I haven't been keeping dibs but pretty sure oak ridge is back in the saddle, but yea political funding footballs have routinely fucked everything up for 40 years now.
>>532855509is falcon 9 going to the moon? no
>>532855439>The SLS would probably continue as the capsule launcher for crews.That's horribly inefficient. SLS is insanely expensive and too much rocket to just send a crew to LEO. The original crew launch vehicle from the Constellation program was the Ares I, which would have used a single SLS solid rocket booster + a hydrolox upper stage powered by a single J2X engine. That's how much less than SLS you need for that crew launch mission.
>>532855716No, but my dick is going into Uranus
>>532855279I hate broads who take pictures of themselves reacting to something off screenLove from Kazakhstan
>>532855595>Starship will never get to orbitit already has dumb shitskin>>532855716falcon heavy is perfectly capable of it yeah. more powerful than any rocket China or Russia has. be so angry forever little brown bitch
>>532855279elon turd is over. no one wants to see his name on anything
>>532855787Starship has never been to orbit. Every single one of its flights, including the next flight, have been suborbital trajectories and velocities. Like I said in my post. You have to be at least 18 years old to post here. Take Elons dick out of your mouth and play KSP to learn actual orbital dynamics. Faggot.
>>532855595It achieved orbital velocity. The deliberately put it in an eccentric orbit with the perigee below the atmosphere so it would reenter. They could have put it into a stable circular orbit with the same burn if they wanted to.
>>532855787>falcon heavywhere? i only see starships
>>532855872>Starship has never been to orbitIt has dumb shitskin. And stop talking about gay sex.
>>532855898That's because you're low IQ and brown and have no idea what's happening irl.
>>532855279Fake the moon landing again. Then Blue Beam
>>532855787hey elon, everyone knows you begged epstein to go to his island like a pedo retard, when the dems rek the trumpanzees in the elections youre gonna be begging to go to mexico let alone to space. its over migger, byeeeeeeeeeee
>>532855959you're so fucking mad lmao
>>532855279The world is literally collapsing, we are murdering depressed people with euthanasia, any negotiations to end war will be targeted by terrorist attacks by a certain middle eastern country. You will wake up one day and the sewers won't work. Hell will come. There will be humans in space with 0 contact to earth as it all burns down. In just 2 weeks.
>>532855404Remember that Von Braun said they were going to fake an alien invasion.He also said we'd never get to the moon. And maybe...
>>532855973its over elon, your brand is tainted by child rape and jewcum. they came, you saw, you guzzled. nobody is gonna give you any more taxpayer money to burn.
>>532855928come on, where's the falcon heavies at? it shouldn't be hard to spot one
>>532855279Digits and they blow up on reentry live on tv. Covered in burning shit from their broken jeet engineered space toilet.
>>532855606Mars direct... Zubrin? Yeah... he's not as smart as he thinks he is. Doesn't know free energy from Gibbs. Some of his chemical reactions don't work. e.g. the one to make silicon.
>>532855606I prefer the North American Rockwell Mars lander proposal.https://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/excursion.php#rockwellmem
>>532855279Imagine coating her face with cum while she looks up at you like that
>>532856211This defines the NPC
>>532855279A BBC IS FALLING OUT OF THE SKY!
>>532855279They didn't go where's the live stream that should have happened the whole time.
>>532855606>>532856179The original JW Bush era Constellation program was cool too. Ares V was a capable rocket designed for ambitious missions, but it got nerfed into SLS which can't do anything useful and has no reason to exist.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_xV0FoWZhI
>>532855279>where does the US space program go from here?its not going to space, thats for sure
>>532856243Need to Plaster Cum
Imagine her taking an aluminum bat to the side of her head like that. Imagine the convulsions from the trauma lmao.
>>532855872It achieved orbital velocity dipshit.
>>532856062so mad kek>>532856093they launch all the time saar
>>532855778This. I hate women full stop. Their stupid main character syndrome ruined my holiday to Europe. Plastic faced bitches taking movie quality photos everywhere. I just elbowed them out of the way
>>532856150I'm not even sure what you're trying to say, breaking the silicon bonds for oxygen harvest uses more energy than anticipated? Thankfully solar panels have dramatically improved in the intervening 4 decades.
>>532856456>i was only pretending to be retardedstupid nigger
>>532856512Okay, you be you. I guess you fell for it.
>>532856652they launch all the time :)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Falcon_9_and_Falcon_Heavy_launches
>>532855279>I saw one of the astronauts on their porch yesterdaySpace is fake and gaySo are you davika
>>532856688>even more vagueposting Fell for what exactly
>>532856456i aint mad im elated. you burned your bridges and now its time to stomp you. theres nowhere to go. you still have twitter, you can seethe about it there with your kike friends
>>532855279The reentry will land in my back yard and I'll seduce the astronauts
>>532855549>Mutt's LawEST
>>532856712k. let me know when nasa considers falcon heavy as suitable for humans
>>532855279>downgraded from the original Ares V? it uses the same engines and, Ares V was just a cargo launch vehicle to be used in tandem with Ares I (the crew launcher)
>>532856814>i aint madyou definitely are though>>532856927it was never designed to be salty shitskin, and no plans to ever make it so
Humans lose 50-100 hairs a day, and when those hairs are long, they create problems onboard a small space shuttle, like floating around in microgravity and getting stuck on people's faces like spiderwebs, clogging up the air filtration system, and getting tangled up in all the equipment. But we see a professionally trained woman with her long hair flying all around, and it was her choice to have long hair. She could have had short hair. But as usual with women, she didn't think about whether something made sense or would work. She just thought about whether it was cute and pretty. That's why when men are having serious discussions about important matters, women need to be sent to the kitchen.
>>532857010before we proceed, i need you to post your hand because you are acting like a nigger. and i simply don't argue with niggers. failure to do so will have you marked as a black gorilla nigger and permanently filtered
>>532857010no more money elon. no more ketamine, no more child rape, no more influence or fame, its over
>>532855906Starship has never reached orbit. Each flight has been suborbital. If flight 12, with the first v3 starship, goes well, they will attempt orbit on flight 13. Per (((FCC)))
>>532857111you're angry and I made you that way, just like this one>>532857117>>532857119>Starship has never reached orbit.it did though
>>532857119The gravity of Earth compensates for the force of the spin. If Earth suddenly stopped spinning we would all be flattened to like pancakes
>>532857180hahah you're a niggerhahahahahah BLACK GORILLA NIGGER PAJEETyour IP has been filtered by the aryan ubermensch
>>532856987>Ares V>10m diameter tank>6x RS-68 engines>beefy upper stage with 1300kN of thrust>SLS>8.5m diameter tank>4x RS-25 engines>dinky upper stage powered by an RL-10 with 100kN of thrustThey're not the same at all. SLS doesn't have the payload capacity to do any of the missions Ares V was designed for.
>>532857119simpleton Brain...Stop making those images You just proving to others how bottom dumbAmericans plebs Are!!!Retard is weak word for you!x)Have nice day!!! x)
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>>532856758nasha, not nasa
>>532857188What are you 5 ?There is no other strong gravitational body near us in order for us feel the effects of the spin . G forces The centrifugal force that would throw us off is quite minor (1675 kph is quite low for a planet the size of earth ) and easily counteracted by gravity. The air travels with us so no wind resistance. So no different than flying in a pressurized airplane 600 mph all compfy and warm Random picture because it ate the first
>>532858357Centrifugal force isn’t even real
>>532858467This.
>>532855279You can quite literally look this information up. Artemis II is a test run before Artemis III which is going to establish some kind of moonbase to make Mars travel easier
>>532857458>9 pbtid 'not at all'Yes they were designed from the same components, the SLS (95 to 130 tons LEO) is a single vehicle, and Ares I + V (71 to 188 tons LEO) were part of a *different ___two-component___ launch vehicle system* each of which was optimized for crew-only, and cargo-only>upper stageRL 10 has 200kN thrust (the Earth Departure Stage of Ares V was derived from Saturn IB's Saturn IVB<--that was used in 1970s Skylab, in the two-component earlier Constellation program)SLS Block 1B and Block 2 have increased 130 tons LEO capacity, the Earth Departure Stage (of Constellation / Ares V) will be incorporated in Block 2 of SLS Artemis. SLS does everything Ares I+V were projected to accomplish.In other words leaftard brainlet 9 pbtid each set of machines was designed for totally different roles and mission profiles, not 'one succeeded the/downgrade from other', the SLS in one vehicle accomplishes the lunar and planetary mission capabilities that the two-separate-vehicle Constellation Ares I+V did (and now the lunar landers are a separate contracted vehicle, unlike Constellation with its Altair LSAM)OP is a faggot leaf
>>532859783130t to LEO isn't close to to 188t to LEO. It amounts to being able to send twice the mass to the moon, and an even bigger margin to Mars. Ares V would have been over 40% heavier on the launch pad. Twice as many launches and having to design missions with LEO refueling. SLS being man rated isn't special, Ares V could have been, like you said it's mostly the same hardware. There was just no plans to use it for anything other than cargo. >RL 10 has 200kN thrust It has 110kN of thrust, chatgpt.>In other words leaftard brainlet 9 pbtid each set of machines was designed for totally different roles and mission profilesThey were 100% designed for different missions.Ares V was designed to fulfil specific requirements for the Constellation program.SLS had no missions, and was designed by congress to keep shuttle component jobs in their district, and NASA had to come up with this pointless Lunar flyby mission to do something with it. It wasn't designed with any mission in mind.
>>532858901Artemis III is the last mission for SLS. NASA's own website shows Artemis IV using SpaceX's Starship.>some kind of moonbase to make Mars travel easierNone of those intermediate bases make getting anywhere else easier. They all require more fuel than going directly from LEO
>>532855279>Does everything come down to Elon Musk and what Starship ends up being capable of?yesreally hoping this starship thing works out. if it does it will dramatically lower the cost of access to space by 10x, maybe even 100x with mass production of thousands of fully reusable starships.cost of access to space has always been the biggest barrier. lower the cost that dramatically and it creates a new space age.if that fails though there is blue origins rocket, nowhere near as good but better than sls.there's also rocketlabs neutron. its not a heavy lifter like starship but its pretty neat. stokespace is doing a cool sorta aerospike thing with active liquid cooling to replace the need for heat tiles.but ultimately yeah its pretty much starship or nothing.there's also nuclear. like the nuclear electric sr-1 freedom that nasa is launching within a few years. they're repurposing the propulsion module from the cancelled lunar gateway and putting a fission reactor on it. or nuclear thermal propulsion like the working nerva engine nasa build in the 60s. or even a fusion rocket like britains pulsar which could push a starship to mars in 45 days instead of 7 months, or go to pluto in 4 years instead of 10. but even getting stuff like that into space affordably needs starship.
>>532855279Here is the current NASA plan:Artemis III next year will be a crewed mission to low Earth orbit to test out one or both lunar landers and rendezvous and docking procedures, and possibly EVA equipment.Artemis IV in early 2028 will be a crewed mission to the Moon with a lunar landing.Artemis V in late 2028 will be another crewed Moon landing, and will begin construction of a permanent lunar base.After that, they plan to increase the mission cadence, with ~2 crewed and ~2 unmanned missions to the Moon base per year.
>>532862409>2028lol, i don't think anyone really believes that. the date will get pushed back. maybe mid 2030s at the earliest, probably after china.
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>>532856093The Falcon Heavy components are built at the SpaceX facility in California and they are launched from Florida, you retarded shitskin.The facility in Texas is exclusively for Starship operations.
>>532861168>Artemis III is the last mission for SLS. NASA's own website shows Artemis IV using SpaceX's Starship.No, Starship would just be used as the lunar lander. The crew will still use the SLS to launch and go to lunar orbit. They will then dock with a Starship (or the Blue Origin Blue Moon) which was separately sent into lunar orbit unmanned. Some of the astronauts will transfer into the Starship (or Blue Moon) and then land it on the moon. They'll fuck around on the moon for a while, then get back into Starship and takeoff from the moon and dock with Orion again while in lunar orbit. The astronauts will all get into the Orion, detach from Starship, and then return to Earth in Orion. Starship would ONLY be used for the lunar landing portion of the mission, they aren't going to ride in it for the whole trip.
>>532855279You are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive you retarded golem. CGI is all you get in this life, which is more than you deserve anyway. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJK1gLHbOxA&t=1136s
>>532860542>Anonymous (ID: 6+/ElQaG) OP leaf 11 pbtid copetard brainletNothing (You) posted itt is correct relevant or worthwhile. Artemis III and IV are planned lunar lander missions (the latter an actual Moon surface landing) 2027 and 2028. All of the coverage during Artemis II this entire week from Houston Mission Control has clearly explained and shown what the Artemis program future objectives and goals of occupying a Moon base are (You) illiterate brainless SHITHEAD dolt.
>first white woman in space done>first black man in space doneThe elements are in place.Next USA mission is getting them to have BBC blacked sex in zero gravity
>>532856179Get on my level >where do you think Elon got his name from?
>>532863200yeah, starship is in the early stages still by then, of an entirely new type of rocket. best not to risk people on launch and re-entry, there isn't even an escape tower. in time it should prove safe after the kinks are ironed out, give it a decade after the first starship missions. but for now orion works. heatshields a bit meh, but they say it will be fine on a shortened re-entry trajectory. she'll be coming in hot though.
>>532864830yeah that is suselon of mars being the title of the ruler of mars in a sci-fi story by werner von braun. i should read that
>>532856758>>532857119just a few of the many ways to prove the earth is round, without having to trust the science.
paid flat earth professional retards pretend not to understand how cameras or refraction work. all their related bullshit debunked in one image.
paid flat earth professional retards pretend not to understand how gravity, vacuum, perspective, rockets, flight, etc work. all the rest of their bullshit debunked in one image.
>>532855595Only brown people support elon musk he's just a grifter
>>532862592Blue Origin's lander was already moving out to Florida for an unmanned test launch. If things don't go horribly wrong then it feels like they already have most pieces in place.https://x.com/blueorigin/status/2042346677277691979Musky boy ain't gonna be happy.
