Ukrainians: Western drones are useless shithttps://militarnyi.com/en/news/bloomberg-ukraine-and-germany-suspend-hx-2-drone-orders/Ukrainians should fully stick to their own constructions printed on Chinese 3D printers and assembled from Chinese components. Not only because they work but foremost because it is possible to scale up production to millions of units per year for cheap. The West cant give such capabilities.https://x.com/igorsushko/status/2042295643981656190I explained everything in my earlier post:https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/531832874/As long as China doesnt curb export, Ukraine should do this. The Chinese dont really have an interest in making Russia too stronk xD
>>532862367>I explained everything in my earlier postPic-rel: most important posts of mine
>>532862367Nobody cares what Ukrainians think. They're there to launder money not to win.
>>532862367fuck your steaks aristocrat, ciekawe skąd ma pieniążki
>>532863025I was still kinda poor in 2018/2019 - the period when i made these photos. But 2018 was first year when i stopped doing any real job. I sold my CNC servicing business and went entirely into investing and market speculation. Now, others work on me.
>>532862367Ukrainians still think the west is there to support them to victory and not to launder money and test their shit? They really deserve everything they're getting for their stupidity
>>532862367Yeah well if ukraine is so smart then why aren't they winning?
>>532863251Because Russians produce even more and better drones, and Russia is a country with huge resources, largely independent, basically more powerful than Ukraine
>>532862367The Ukraine and Iran war have without a doubt proven that the US and Euro overpriced wunderwaffe MIC is nothing more than a SCAM intended to siphon 5% of NATO countries GDP into the pockets of Jewish shareholders.
>>532863251Because Ukraine only had soviet era weapons and jets for it's military before the West supplied them with modern tech. That allowed the Russians to dig in and fortify their positions so the war has basically stalled with neither side able to make advances
>>532863294Da, Vadim. Go back to your accursed shithole.
>>532863433>That allowed the Russians to dig in and fortify their positions so the war has basically stalled with neither side able to make advancesTrue, but this is changing. The collapse of the pidoRussia has only began.
>>532863485I will travel to Russia this year, actually. I want to check myself if it is truly such a shithole nowadays as NAFO trolls present it. This X post inspired me.
>>532863618Good, go there. You will be among your people so you should feel right at home.
>>532863669Not true. If we talk about my nationality, i am amongst my own only in Poland. If we talk about remote ethnic roots, then Israel. If we talk about cultural influence, then Germany where part of my family lives and where i was spending every single summer vacations as a kid. I have nothing in common with Russia except weakness for porn with Russian teen girls and TATU girlsband that i liked as a kid decades ago.
>>5328636181. Most foreigners stay in the center of mosqueov or pidorsburg and never see the reality of that country. 2. Traveling outside without a local friend (or at least enough knowledge to navigate that yourself) would be a problem due to language barrier and messed up laws and shit.
>>532863794>Most foreigners stay in the center of mosqueov or pidorsburg and never see the reality of that countryI was in States many times and tourist areas look cool and nice there too, but i could show you such areas that you would choke on your vomit xD
>>532863794>Traveling outside without a local friend (or at least enough knowledge to navigate that yourself) would be a problem due to language barrier and messed up laws and shit.I will try to search for some guide traveling if i decided to travel all over Russia. I think i will try Moscow first because it is easily accesible.
>>532863864Because there's not much face culture there, unlike in russia. Burgers openly shit on (kek) Los Angeles drowning in bums and shit and other such issue. For russia you get special propaganda about how good it is instead. And even those who "expose" stuff are usually in the pocket of the regime and operate as "steam blow off valves", carefully choosing what they'll talk about. Because the moment they go outside the lines they get broomed. Outside of that it comes down to different "usage patterns" of a tourist vs a local. You'd rent a bougie apartment in the center of the city, where all the wealth and care is concentrated, and then check out some specific POIs at your leisure, while locals will live in the rotting outskirts "sleeping district" and wake up at 5 AM to commute to work in shitty public transport, surviving on pennies and eating bootleg food.
>>532864016With guides it's an issue is because of face culture they'll strive to show you the best of the best. Ideally you just want to find a local jaded friend who'll unleash the realities for you, while keeping you out of trouble with the police and such.
>>532863794>>532864077>butthurt Mykola finds out about tourism (in any country)
>>532864077I watched documentary about Russian glubinka (village) and i know that people live there like in XIX century, with wells etc. But it is nothing bad imo. Such simple life. I am aware that Russia is a country of extreme contrasts, and it fkn big. I just want to check normal average cities. Moscow will probably seem as richer than Warsaw.
>>532862367You're focusing on the wrong thing. If Russia or the US wanted to end their respective wars, they would've already done so. They haven't because they don't want to end them. The people don't matter. The land doesn't matter. The longer it takes the better. It's all about profiteering. War is a racket.
>>532864208US can't realistically end their war because even if US surrenders jews will just start it back up again.
>>532863251They're advancing but the russia isn't.
>>532864208You understand that Russia and even the US of A aint strong enough anymore to control unleashing reality? It is not XX century anymore.
>>532862367Ukrapiggs buthurt that they cant steal and sell yet a nother german tech. Not supprised at all. Keep seething and keep loosing.
Whole Western cope narrative right now hinges on the very retarded idea that Ukrainians are subhuman and only barely surviving thanks to Western expertise and supplies. Which is partly true only in the sense of supplies. Ukrainians are certainly imbecilic in many ways but they are far more crafty than they think, and UA would rape any European army without breaking sweat at this point. To make things funny they even staged some exercises where exactly this happened recently.
>>532864458>Which is partly true only in the sense of supplies.Not really supplies. Printing of euro currency is the key here. Ukrainians transform these printed billions into salaries for their public sector and they buy usefull stuff for it all over the world
>>532863294Ukraine has the logistical and financial support of all of the US and EU. If anything Russia is the underdog here.
>>532864560Thats true. Russia is seriously handicapped by huge Western support for Ukraine, tens of thousands of sanctions, etc, but it manages very well while being fully cut off of the West imo. Balance of power changed. Yet a decade or two ago, Russia would collapse under such a pressure
>>532864553True.>>532864560I wouldn’t call them an underdog but things are far more equal than how childish narrative paints them. >>532864645I seriously thought they’d collapse in 2022 in economic sense.
Not really collapse, but have massive economic difficulties. Instead their economy grew.
>>532864255>>532864260They can easily win. The first option is the one that everyone always disregards as the unthinkable or that it wouldn't ever happen, which is to say nukes. It is feasible to end the wars with them and it would happen overnight. Even if they can't destroy their underground facilities, not having anything above ground to support them and fight for would quickly incapacitate the rest.The second method is slower and far more costly, but it's also very doable. They fully mobilize and simply take over. We're talking about theoreticals here, yes? Given infinite time and no fucks to give, if deprived of support either by force or agreement, neither Ukraine nor Iran can independently sustain themselves and keep this up for long. Russia and the US on the other hand are (mostly) out of range (or can be made so). So they can continue churning out shit, while the others run out. And then it becomes a slow and steady genocide. The US would ship tens of millions to staging bases all over the region. Russia would flood Ukraine with a 5 million strong army. They'd focus all of their resources into winning their respective conflicts and that's what they'd accomplish in the end because they are entirely capable of doing so.But they won't do this not because they can't. They can even replicate all the relevant drone tech. They don't want to because as I already said, lives are expendable and there's no rush to take over the land. They're making disgusting amounts of money and so they'll continue with their wars in perpetuity. Yes, that means that Russia too, will continue with their Ukraine war for decades to come. It's just too profitable for their MIC. Oil industry? They'll recover. It doesn't matter. The military takes absolute precedence now. Their entire economy has already shifted from mostly civilian to mostly military production since it all began. You think they'll just stop this now? Good joke.
>>532862367i don't care about germany or shitkraine, but its interesting how the default quad slaughterbot model has moved towards the speed style chassis
>>532864679Starlinks multiply Ukrainian power too. This LEO constellation gives a targeting/communication edge. Russia would need to rely on Chinese satellites to have comparable or better capabilities, but Russia is too proud to be a Chinese vassal.
>>532864762They both serve a purpose. The large Iranian drones are for long range assaults with heavier payloads. The quads are short to medium range FPV anti personnel (and vehicle) drones. When the targets are close and mobile, FPVs are used. When they're far and stationary, Shaheds are used.
>>532864758>The US would ship tens of millions to staging bases all over the region. Russia would flood Ukraine with a 5 million strong army.Thats not so simple xD
>>532864158When I traveled to a number of European countries I've specifically chose to explore outside the tourist areas and it was nice. Cope and seethe.
>>532863294LOL is that even a controversial opinion
>>532862367you said you were going to x churka retardtoo bad you are on the payroll...
>>532864890Europe is different than the US indeed. It is hard to find _really_ disgusting areas in Europe. Yet. Ethnic replacement and economic fuck up slowly trashes Europe. Russia is a country of extreme contrasts because it is huge, i guess. You cant have coherent infrastructure on such huge landmass with only 140 mln people
>>532864560>If anything Russia is the underdog here.Imagine starting a fight by sucker punching the small kid in class, getting your teeth knocked out, and then call yourself the underdog.LMAO
>>532864919You have to go back
>>532865013>Europe is different than the US indeed. It is hard to find _really_ disgusting areas in Europe. Yet. Ethnic replacement and economic fuck up slowly trashes Europe. Russia is a country of extreme contrasts because it is huge, i guess. You cant have coherent infrastructure on such huge landmass with only 140 mln people
>>532864872It isn't simple. But we're talking about theoreticals and numbers. Where there's a will there's a way. You're just overcomplicating things because you think that the end goal is victory. But winning never mattered. The only thing that matters is profit. Everything else is a lie. Russia could've disabled Ukraine's entire grid and water systems, struck the relevant government buildings, food factories, etc... already years ago if they wanted to win and take over. They've struck some of the power systems in limited capacity, always allowing Ukraine to recover. They haven't really targeted anything of their government and leadership. It makes sense to go for the jugular if you want to win. So you have to ask yourself why haven't they? Because they want to prolong it indefinitely. Their whole society has shifted to military production and that's likely how it will remain for the foreseeable future. Same deal with the US and their regime change wars. The MIC and oil industry work hand in hand a lot of time. But they can work independent of one another too. When you assume that it's all done for profit you come to the conclusion that victory is very unappealing. So everything starts making perfect sense.
>>532865013>Russia is a country of extreme contrasts because it is huge, i guessNah, because it's a colonial empire. The regions get robbed blind so that the imperial center of mosqueov can live. Even their "second capital" of pidorsburg is nowhere near mosqueov levels of funding.
>>532865258>You cant have coherent infrastructure on such huge landmass with only 140 mln peopleCant have Stinky either. Maybe should have gone for basic infrastructure instead. What a disgrace.
>>532863618>I will travel to Russia this year, actually.Please dont come back.
>>532865344>>532865350>>532865362I must finally travel to China too. All my friends come back from there with attitude : "Dude, we are fkn 3rd world in comparison". I am serious.
>>532862367>The Chinese dont really have an interest in making Russia too stronkThey kinda do.If Russia dies there's no buffer between China and the US. US will focus all of their resources on attacking China. They already have done by stealing Venezuela, blockading the Panama canal, and trying to disrupt Iranian oil flows, all moves that negatively impact China.If the US were to lose the Ukraine war, however, Russia would gain a foothold on critical mineral resources, the kind that China's economy needs, which Russia, being friendly, would share and export with China.Ukraine wouldn't export anything to China, and would instead act as a highly competitive resource alternative to China, which undercuts their economy.China doesn't even need to hand out licences, just feign a shortage and stockpile the neodynium magnets like a crazy paranoid hoarder with general export bans, and cite the US bombing Iran and the oil shortages as the reason. Still sell it to Russia, but none to the west and zero in motorised parts. If there are parts that only require very tiny amounts (I.E. too useless to use in a drone motor at scale), then they can sell managed quantities of those.China, however, does what it always does, which is nothing. It is a coward. A paper dragon, it fronts hard but then does nothing when cornered.
>>532862367NoooYou cannot produce ANYTHING without REGULATIONS and SAFETYIt must be also ABOVE civilian specs because otherwise these drones could be PRINTED by ANYONE and that would be a threat to our STABLE and DESIRABLE democracies.So, along with making drones EXPENSIVE and EXCLUSIVE, we must BAN the private possession of any MEANS to produce cheaper PRODUCTS.
>>532865350>its cool like madmax comrade NOT LIKE IN EUROPE where our elites send their children to live better life
>>532865634>They kinda do.>If Russia diesIn such scenario - yes. I agree. If Russia was showing signs of collapse, then China would be _forced_ to support it. But Russia is veeeeery far away from dying. Ukraine is in very bad shape, actually.
>>532865431>All my friendsso basically this rishi sunak looking guy?
>>532865634>If Russia dies there's no buffer between China and the US. US will focus all of their resources on attacking Chinathey wasted all the resources on iran memeflag retardchina doesnt need russsia they can partition it with us
>>532865431>"Dude, we are fkn 3rd world in comparison".imagine how russians feel when they visit it.
>>532862367old news? as far as i know ukies trashed the first version of the hx drones, but loved the improved one.
>>532865431You are.The American middle-class might own one tiny shop front "if" they're lucky.The Chinese middle-class own an entire factory floor full of automatons.You pay between $10 to $20 for a bucket of small pieces of chicken in KFC in America.One guy paid $2 for a whole chicken that had been coated and cooked in China. For people too dumb to do maths: that's 5 full chickens for $10 or 10 if it's $20.Healthcare costs a bomb in the US (literally, a Tomahawk is like, several million).In China, it is free.In America, homes are either wood or cardboard and cost easily a quarter of a million.In China, whilst the buildings are labelled tofu (confirmed, isn't just a meme), it is the same kind of build quality as Americans, the only difference is... most Chinese have their own homes. The housing crisis we have here, doesn't exist over there.Public transport works.US's renewable makeup is about 10% and barely shifts.China's renewable energy makeup is about 23-27% and is increasing over time. To the point it is dropping energy prices: during peak generation hours factories - those fully automated ones - can even run for free to deal with the excess.Whilst I have seen footage of the build quality horror stories, that I can confirm, at this point you're arguing over different types of suffering.That said, Chinese government are still just authoritarian as reported, but it seems like the US is trying to play catch-up on that retarded shit, and mostly exports that tyrannical terror to foreign countries to die under. Frankly, two different shades of evil.
>>532865958>memeflag tells VPN about the USpriceless
>>532865898I generally think that all this NAFO trolling like China taking Russian land etc is bullshit. China gains far more of integrating Russia in its economic system. Thats why i am curious if Russia is doing worse or better now after being cut off of the West.
>>532865694>Ukraine is in very bad shape, actually.People say this but honestly it's more like WW1 right now where the frontlines are moving like, 4 inches a day. If Ukraine is in as bad shape as declared, why is Russia struggling so much in taking land?If you say drones, it's one more reason the Chinese shouldn't be aiding them.Russia's expansion still aids China. They need to stop doing this indifferent, fence sitting shit or they're going to find themselves filled with LGBTQ trannies and tithes to genocidal shithole israel.
>>532863618that account is ran by russian living in canada
>>532864890I've also traveled to a number of European countries, both in and out of tourist areas. Saw both good and bad. You're the seething one
>>532866021do you like trains?
>>532862367Western gear doesn't actually need to work, it just needs to cost the taxpayer a lot of money. It being $200,000 means it does its job perfectly.
>>532865891>NAFO shill trying to discourage China from looking after their own interests>you can be land stealing savages like usI thought your whole stance was NATO was a defensive alliance and stealing other people's land is bad?Man how quickly that mask fell off.Also China didn't use their own resources for the Iran war, Iran exchanged goods for the weapons they got.But you are a NAFO shill which is like me being called a retard by the head of the retard squad.
>>532862367Of course Ukraine would say they are shit, they are currently trying to market themselves as the drone experts and don't want any competition.That being said, if the price tag is 200k then this is retarded as shit. The ONLY point of drones is that they are cheap as fuck and you can turn it into a war of financial attrition. If you make them expensive, they are just junk.
>>532866133>discourage China from looking after their own interests
>>532866021Russians seem to seethe a lot more than they did and instead of making threats about nuking others they make threats that China will defeat the others.Sign of a broken russnigger, imo. I guess it's a better life as a little cuck in their dacha with delusions that anyone wants to invade their frozen shithole cheering on the Chinese instead of being the losers that they were. A defeated people for sure. No nuke threats from a Russian is like a chihuahua that doesn't bark.Which will make it all the more hilarious when the Chinese take Haishenwei.
>>532866451>Russians seem to seethe a lot more than they did and instead of making threats about nuking others they make threats that China will defeat the others.>Sign of a broken russnigger, imoNobody seeths more than POTUS, actually xD
>>532866500ZOG is in service to Russia, and the kike lover serves Russia.Of course he would seethe.
>>532862367Nothing using 3D printers scales well
>>532863781>where i was spending every single summer vacations as a kid.fuck, pol has grown to be tiny
>>532866569It does scale extremely well with a distributed distribution system and constantly changing front-line needs.Instead of one shop with a mold they have hundreds of shops with hundreds of 3D printers each.
>>532866753Injection molding is much faster and produces a superior result. 3D printing is a meme or at best a patch. Basically you're saying to compete with one mold you need 1000 printers. So much scaling. Wow.
>>532862367Manufacturing BOM for these drones available?
>>532866881Okay retard, let me know when you can get the prices down to Ukranian levels with your injection molding. Oh wait, Trumpenstein's son and various other kikes have startups copying their designs and can't get anywhere close to their pricing. Guess you lost.
>>532867008That's because the MIC has 10,000% markup (((hand rubbing)))
>>532862367>Ukrainians: Western drones are useless shitYeah. Picrel.
>>532867052Sure. Lemme know when those MIC kikes ship anywhere close to the number of drones that Ukraine ships despite having a fixed production with molds versus flexible production and distribution.Maybe at some point you'll stop being a retarded faggot just blurting out stupid shit with no hope to defend it.
>>532867008Every cheap piece of plastic you see around your house, other than your 3D printed toys cluttering up your desk, is injection molded or formed from sheet. 3D printing is good for making 1 of something, not 10,000. Don't be retarded.
>>532866165the ukie strike drones miss alot though, getting regularly jammed at the last meters and they rely on americans providing gps and starlink. the hx, if it works as advertised, doesnt have these problems.
>>532866996>mp4 The ukies went even further and advertised drone components.
>>532867206The flexibility that 3D printing avails isn't in production (mass or otherwise), but in bespoke solutions. 3D printing is sloooow
>>532867229That's a good point: if 3D printing was so awesome, why aren't 3D printers 3D printed?
>>532867360They are, though. From the beginning. Lookup RepRap project.
>>532863433It's not a real war, just a meat grinder, take position, dig in, get killed.Enemy takes position, digs in, gets killed.Repeat.
>>532867273>>532867229How much time and cost does it take to create a new injection mold, retard?And how is speed a problem when you have multiple shops of hundreds of printers?Now what is the cost of multiple injection molding pipelines with chillers, automated grabbing, etc. versus multiple 3d printer workshops?You know you cannot win this argument because you cannot point to any single example of producing drones at the scale that is done there, so you seethe. You lost.>>532867360In fact, they are
>>532863794>1. Most foreigners stay in the center of mosqueov or pidorsburg and never see the reality of that country.this is getting stale. even in norway you will find decrepit places outside oslo
>>532867535You can CNC molds quickly and once you can use one mold, you can replace it with another. Automatec grabbing? You seem to imply this is necessary, or there is some kind of equivalent happening in your 3D printing fantasy. Instead you just have grunts peeling parts off the base. The reason they're using 3D printing isn't because it's better for mass production, but because they don't have the infrastructure for injection molding. Their conditions are primitive
>>532867382That's much more of a party trick than it is something useful and I think you're aware of that.The 3D printer I'm sure you wasted your money on was made from a real manufacturer using real methods, wasn't it?
>>532867535In my experience at my slow ~300 per year job a couple months and then you're up and running for a really complex one making from strong nylon 6. Couple weeks for easy stuff.Then what you have is faster, stronger,more consistent, and requires less babying than 3D printing
>>532867547>decrepit places outside osloa. you don't need to specifically search for decrepit places;b. sometimes you don't even need to leave mosqueov itself lmao;
>>532862367Unironically western military companies could learn from the shit going on in Ukraine.The over-inflated budgets in so many of these companies is INSANE."Managers managing managers" out the wazoo.
how hard can it be to just copy the russian lancet drone (which this seems to be).
>>532867535>>532867670It's not a binary question, both approaches have their own benefits and downsides. The issue is the speed of iteration with some of the drones. It doesn't make sense to invest a fuck ton of money into _just one set of molds_ when you'd get bottlenecked due to centralized production and also have to replace the mold because a few months went by and the product changed as doesn't fit in the old molds. In this case have farms full of 3d printers do in fact win. You just mistake that for some nerd doing stuff on a single 3d printer, instead of room where there are place in two levels (one on top of another), filling the room like a server farm or something.
>>532862367dumb thread by dumb poster, german drones proved to be very effective
>>532862367Ukrainins are using this thing. it's an improved russian design.
>>532867818>a couple months and then you're up and running for a really complex one making from strong nylon 6. Couple weeks for easy stuff.Meanwhile, Ukraine can just upload a new file to their print beds in the time and produce it at scale.Their setup also doesn't require chillers and it doesn't require any one process dedicated to a part. Their setup can literally change on a dime, move elsewhere, respond to the needs of different orders and be rebuilt elsewhere and distributed if it goes out of commission while you still have your dick in your hand jerking off about how you can output hundreds per minute.Despite all of that, no one can compete on price with them. How many parts need to be made? What's the up-front capital cost? Now you That's why you don't have an argument. They're producing 10 million per year. We don't produce shit. Now maybe shut the fuck up about your mold that shits out a single part when there's nothing being shit out. Even beyond plastic parts, Ukraine produces more cruise missiles than we do per year.
>>532863433>Because Ukraine only had soviet era weaponsTaliban had the same and yet they were able to not only push back the Soivet Union but the Untied States as well, the two strongest countries at the time.
>>532862367My country works together with Ukraine to make drones.Their front line expertise and innovasion, our logistics and manufacturing capacity.I suspect a lot of "Ukrainian" drones are actually made here in The Netherlands, but we don't want to draw too much attention to it.Our plan is to keep making them after the Ukraine war is over, but then for our own defense and what's left of NATO.
>>532864158kek, got em
>>532868286I like how after all this back and forth, you're still just saying 3D printing is great because it's flexible - which is what everyone has been saying the entire time lmaoEnjoy that slower, worse, less consistent, less precise process that requires more hand reworking that's made from more expensive raw stock. The real manufacturers will continue using good processes. I'm sure you're very proud of that slug toy you printed and have next to your rainbow keyboard.
>>532868871>I suspect a lot of "Ukrainian" drones are actually made here in The NetherlandsNo shit, Ukrainian MIC has production bases in Europe, at the very least in Poland, UK, Germany, Czechia and Denmark. Because some things are easier to setup and buy from outside, let alone the security of not being under bombing. Some might be in the Netherlands as well.
Well, no shit sherlock.The most important thing for a disposable weapon with a one-time use, is the pricetag.A kamikaze drone with 200K pricetag is fucking stupid from get go.
>>532869103It is official government policy to make drones for Ukraine here.Specifically at VDL Nedcar in the village of Born, which used to make cars like the Mini Cooper but has been switched over to military drones.I just don't know if the Ukrainians call them "Ukrainian drones", because they are Ukrainian designs, or call them something else.In any case we can make the same drones Ukraine can make, that's part of the deal.
>>532867535Injection molding is good for mass production, 3D printing is good for prototyping and making high end parts.3D printers are prone to errors, they waste an incredible amount of material in the process and they take way more time to finish a task compared to an injection mold. Hence 3D printers are not suited for mass production. Unless you are building highly complicated and bespoke pieces of hardware such as modern exotic rocket engines and such, injection molding is the industry standard since it is cheaper and wastes a fraction of material in the process.
>>532862367Is this a thread to pretend ukraine makes thier own drones?Aww how cuteThe ONLY drones made in ukraine are.those shitty little Vampires which are made in aparment building basements under plenty of human sheilds
>>532869007>I'm sure you're very proud of that slug toy you printed and have next to your rainbow keyboard.I'm sure you're proud of the fact that you have absolutely no retort to the fact that kikes like you cannot compete with their drone output.Since you're obviously a retarded inbred kike, no one was arguing for replacing injection molding for shitting out the same part 10 million times, when you can have a dedicated setup with dedicated power and dedicated chillers to your part with an upfront capital cost 1000x more when you know what part you'll be printing on that process in a year.Glad you conceded, you retard. Maybe you can injection mold an entire loitering munition that fucking works, let alone compete with their prices. Seems to not be the case so far.
>>532863433NATO has been selling/giving ukraine letal advanced weapons systems since 2014, tranny faggot leaf shill. Plus lots of cash
>>532864785>Russia would need to rely on Chinese satellitesRussia has 50 sattallites you fucking rerard
>>532870155SpaceX has 10,000
>>532867164Last I heard that thing would cost $2500... and now its $3000?Also comparing this to Thaad, Patriot and Nasams is stupid since it cannot do anything against high speed missile or even rocket powered geran.
>>532870155>Russia has 50 sattallitesCute!Starlink has over 10,000
>>532865093you will go back
>>532862367Thing looks like a fritz x rocket.
>>532870082Buddy bought an injection molded Chinese 3D printer, made a little slug and anime figurine with it, now he thinks he's Mr. Robot and le HECKIN resistance is making drones with them lmaoWork literally 1 job related to the building of something other than fast food before you try to talk about any of this
>>532867874picrel reminds me of this video i saw recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J51PQcDtCxA
>>532870155Russia has 1600 satellites in orbit.>>532870246>>532870350To compare military satellites that are used for surveliance and intelligence gathering to a Starlink satellite that is used as nothing but wifi hotspot is fucking retarded.A starllink satellite is as big a kitchen table man. You cannot compare that to a military satellite that is as big as your house and is filled with all sorts of tech.
>>532867874pidoranny never change
>>532868871YesThe dutch make the sea drones that Ukraine then supplys and trains Al Qaeda insurgents in Libya to blow up LNG tankers. Once again NATO is using 3rd parties to fund thier pet muslim terrorists.Zelensky also supplied and trained Al Qaeda in Mali, Syria, and Myannar.
>>532865678How is Russia so trad? It's unreal...
>https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-norway-to-jointly-produce-drones/>In June, Oslo announced that it would donate approximately 6.7 billion Norwegian Crowns ($660 million) to the U.K.-led maritime coalition for Kyiv and help produce naval drones in Ukraine.
>>532867164Honestly why are missiles so expensive? The only excuse I can think of is pure retardation.
>>532870535>Work literally 1 job related to the building of something other than fast food before you try to talk about any of thisWork a retort to the fact that you're incapable of producing anything comparable to their drone output.I don't even have a 3D printer, you fucking retarded tranny. Your seething is entirely because it was pointed out that Trumpenstein's son and various other kikes cannot hope to output working drones, yet our money is going to them.And yet here you are, a retarded kike, pointing out the obvious that you can shit out hundreds of parts per minute with INJECTION MOLDING like it's some magical kike spell when you do not produce shit.I repeat: you don't produce shit, kike.
>>532867948I think the other end is that many of those MIC companies are held to insane standards + a lot of time milshit is basically just a jobs program so the inefficiency is the goal.
Every drone factory in ukraine gets a missile, thats why they outsourced production. 75% of the population has turned against the government and there are informants everywhere. You cant think kidnapping people's friends and familily wouldnt have consequences.
>>532870829MIC is a hungry beast.They just cant get enough fat of the land the appease their appetite.The too big to fail projects like the F-35 spoiled them beyond imagination and now every single military project either gets cancelled or ends up costing 10 times the price it was originally marked for.
>>532870887I'm an engineer at an aircraft manufacturer, you own anime figurines and a rainbow keyboard and have never once built anything
>>532864758>But they won't do this not because they can'tMaybe putin could go full stalin and mobilize everyone and purge all dissidents. Becausr russians are mostly unarmed subservient dogs and every slav with brain got purged or died back in soviet times.But the us? If they started draft for some Iran wat bs they would collapse into civil war. They would need a 9/11 event again and they would need everyone to believe it, which they wouldn't today.
>>532870583We were talking about communication which is also very important in warfare.Russia got a big blow when Musk decided to cut them off Starlink.For intelligence gathering Ukraine relies on American satellites and spy drones.Which are also way better than anything Russia has.
>>532871092So you're a part of the problem? Why are you failing to compete?
>>532871092You're a shitskinned wrench turner who doesn't produce shit in volume, that's correct. Thank you for conceding.
>>532870155>>532870350>>532870583Russia is now a satellite dwarf vs China. Russia fields 1,559 satellites but only on paper, only around 250 are still quasi operational. China operates >1,300 total (as of late 2025), including 157 military and 510+ ISR-capable sats with advanced sensors, far outpacing Russia in quality, growth, and military utility. Most of these Chinese 1300 sattelites are fully operational and modern. Russian power in Ukraine would multiply if China granted full BeiDou access. Russias GLONASS is jammed there. BeiDou integration (already advancing via compatibility pacts) would deliver resilient PNT for missiles, drones and comms. Multi-system redundancy would defeat jamming, enabling precise strikes and ops beyond current limits. Starlink is vulnerable due to LEO mass-destruction risk. Its dense low orbits invite Kessler syndrome - cascading debris from one attack could disable thousands. China therefore limits unchecked LEO constellations (citing collision/safety threats from Starlink-like fleets) and builds powerful, resilient systems on higher MEO/GEO orbits for coverage without fragility. China already has weapons to wipe out LEO. Its DA-ASAT missiles (SC-19 family) are operational and mobile, the 2007 LEO test proved it, and PLA trains on them today. Ground lasers disrupt/damage sensors now, >1 GW microwave systems can fry electronics in LEO without debris. Co-orbital tech adds options. Chinese LEO denial is mature.
>>532871145>Russia got a big blow when Musk decided to cut them off Starlink.Pure propaganda>the tides have turned!>this is how we can win!There is ZERO noticable difference in attacks since it was shut down in drone attacks. How many Starlink systems did they buy on Ebay? You have no idea. It could have been 4 and used for porn.To pretend Russia doesnt have sattallite communications is fucking retarded. Its 30 year old tech.
>>532871348Great info.Starlink is also vulnerable due to its specifications. It uses radio waves as transmission and radio waves can be disrupted without physically taking the satellite out.
>>532862367>200K Euros for a droneIs it made of gold? Hohols could get 200+ good drones or 2000+ normal ones for that that price
>>532871418They need to send this one back to English classes
>>532871530no no, 200K for a disposable kamikaze drone, with a one time use.so you have to hit a target worth over 200K to break even when you use this thing.
>>532871115>Becausr russians are mostly unarmed subservient So then why did Russia overthrow 2 corrupt governments in the last 35 years?How is your migrant shithole doing?The real reason globohomo hates Russia is because they dont want thier idea's of rebellion against billionairs spreading.
>>532863618>Poles traveling to Russiayou are going to get arrested as a spy
>>532871537Maybe I should have used a comma at the end instead of a period.Perfect grammer otherwise, nafo tranny faggot shill.Or since you cant dispute my facts maybe you are implying muh VPN?Eat shit troon
>>532871146Can't even deny that you've never built anything without sperging out your terminally online torettes ticks lmaoLARPing the Ukrainian defense using 3rd hand nonsense you picked up from the internet
>>532871651Ukranians and Poles and Russians travel to each others countries all the time man.Many still have families and distant relatives.They cannot fly to their destination direcly due to travel bans, but take a detour in Istanbul. Come to Istanbul airport and you will see many Russians, Poles and Ukranians traveling to countries with flights they cannot take from their home countries. Istanbul airport is the bypass point.
>>532862367Western economies are not optimized for building practical things that work. This is why Iran and Russia have the best combat drones.When something is built in the US and Germany, immediately all the higher ups in the decision process are thinking how to extract the maximum from their customer for the least possible effort and lowest quality product. There is no reason to spend money on R&D or better materials, when you get a better return by spending money on marketing or lobbying. You can be a company like Anduril for example and run bare bones engineering and research teams just to meet requirements and say you have the people, you don't give those people any real work, and then dump millions into marketing and bribes. Anduril is a great one to pick on for how blatant they are about it. I can look on haystack, they sell like 5 things. Their most expensive product is an anti-drone radar, that they don't even build, they buy it from Leonardo DRS, rebrand it, and sell it to the government at an inflated price. When your defense base is out to fuck you from every angle, there isn't much you can do. Americans have this ignorant obsession with silicon valley and VC types, that they're some kind of tech genius as opposed to a continuation of a long line of snake oil salesman like their Californian ancestors before them. The recent push to stylize defense around this mindset is going to be a fucking disaster. The old order was inflated price wise, but at least it worked.
Here is one of the first Russia/Starlink articles.Feb 15th 2024>https://www.forbes.com/sites/zacharyfolk/2024/02/15/russia-using-starlink-terminals-bought-on-open-market-in-ukraine-war-report-says/>A Ukrainian general said that the Russian military has been using Starlink to access the internet for communications for “quite a long time,” Thats it. The whole narrative came from: >one ukrainian general said so
>>532871802>Ukranians and Poles and Russians travel to each others countries all the time manUnfortunately Russians dont travel to Poland nowadays. They were coming here for shopping, mostly from Kaliningrad like a decade ago but it ended out of political reasons. Only Ukrainians (draft dodgers) and Belarusians (KGB spies) infest Poland, lately in millions xDPoles dont travel to Russia/Ukraine/Belarus. Poles are scared of the East.
>>532871600>So then why did Russia overthrow 2 corrupt governments in the last 35 years?They did? When did this happen? The collapse of the soviey union was just the oligarchs using an alcolic retard so they could privatize all national assets and make money.>How is your migrant shithole doing?The post wasn't about my migrant shithole. It was about your jew owned israeli puppet shithole and that aids infested nigeria in the north shithole. My shithole is barely 10 million people and hardly matters in the grand scheme of things.
>>532871234Aye big dog do me a favor and find the nearest thing to you that was 3D printed.Your little Chinese girl figurines and slug toys don't count.Why do you think it is that nobody 3D prints anything?
>>532871744You're a shitskinned wrench turner who does not produce shit.>EU innovates>kikes try to copy it with outsourced labor and software to save moneyThe only redemption for America will be burning the parasite of ZOG off of them, deporting shitskins like you and hanging all of the kikes stealing tax dollars from lampposts.
>>532872014The people were driving tanks into Red Square in the 90s you stupid faggot. Russians took arms to kick the corrupt cunts in Kiev out of Donbas and Crimea.Rewrite history elsewhere faggot
>>532871802https://www.slidstvo.info/en/articles/they-laughed-and-rejoiced-that-they-had-captured-a-pole-russians-captured-a-european-civilian-and-tortured-him-to-death/
>Elon Musk shut down Starlink access for Russian forces in Ukraine on February 1, 2026. Thats boys ukraine can finally win! All we need is a quick 90 billion and the war is won!>Brussels, February 4, 2026 — According to Parliament News, that European Union member states have reached consensus on an extensive financial framework designed to underpin Ukraine’s economic stability, marking a critical evolution in EU economic assistance as the bloc transitions from emergency response to structured long-term support. The agreement, finalized after months of diplomatic negotiations, establishes the architecture for predictable funding, oversight, and accountability over multiple years.So why did they wait 2 years from the time they first planted this narrative till the time they shut them down?
>>532872183>Russians took arms to kick the corrupt cunts in Kiev out of Donbas and Crimea.What are Russians doing in the Donbas?Wasn't the narrative that Ukraine was murdering civilians there first? Why did Russians start showing up and murdering civilians first, then, by your own admission? Why are they going to another country and killing civilians?
>>532872033Reminder that there is nothing 3D printed on the airbus
>>532871989We have a lot of Russians and Ukranians here man. They sometimes live as neighbors or roommates and cook each other borscht.>The EU has banned Russian carriers of all kinds from accessing EU airports and from overflying EU airspace.Still a lot of Russians go to Europe and a lot of Europeans go to Russia and that is done through Istanbul, again Istanbul is the bypass point. >>532872193Dude holy fucking shit. Consider the population of Europe and the population of Russia, consider the histories of these entities. Of course they are going have relations and families and relatives between those entities.You are fucking retarded if you think every European going to Russia or every Russian going to Europe is treated like a spy. Fucking lol.The only country in the world that treats every outsider except Americans as spies is Israel. Dont confuse that "country" with the rest of the world.
>>532862367That was in January. Currently HX-2 is actively deployed on the battlefield by Ukraine. Wtf is this guy's problem?
>>532872527>What are Russians doing in the DonbasThe current state of the faggots the EU/NGOs hires to be here
>>532871988Russians themselves admit losing access to starlink was a critical loss, you’re fooling nobody but yourself
>>532872628they’re worthless animals that are currently being slaughtered like pigs while you cry on the internet, jeet faggot
>>532872548I saw it too. I went to a Russian Orthodox church in Brooklyn and the priest made it a point to introduce me to a Russian, Ukrainian, and Georgian. He was like we are all brothers in Christ here in the USA and reject the endless political games in eastern Europe.
>>532872785Russians are pedophile subhumans that are being slaughtered in enormous numbers
>>532872548 >We have a lot of Russians and Ukranians here manWe have pleeeeeenty of people from Ukraine and (to less degree) from Belarus. It is nothing comparable to Turkey, i guess. You can come to my city (Wroclaw), and make experiment by asking 50 random people on streets if they are from Ukraine/Belarus. I can bet a lot of money that you would get +25 positive answers.Naive Poles think that all Belarusians/Ukrainians they brought here in millions are anti-Russians and it is a pure bullshit. Most of escapers from Ukraine are those who didnt want to fight Russians and die for their country. They would make perfect occupation force if Russia ever managed to dominate Poland, imo. Most people from Ukraine/Belarus operate in Russian cultural code, after all.
>>532872543Reminder that your magical kike spell of INJECTION MOLDING cannot summon a working drone. You're free to point out where in the thread I said that 3D printing is superior to injection molding when you have 1000x the upfront capital for all of the dedicated parts, chillers, molds, dedicated power, and knowing that you're going to be printing that part in a year and an IQ higher than your typical shitskinned subhuman.You can't find that post, and you don't have an IQ above 80 because you are a shitskinned subhuman, so my advice is to kill yourself.Seethe for me some more, nigger IQ. Seems that your magical spell of INJECTION MOLDING has failed to produce a working one that you can point to across dozens of posts.
>>532862367western defense contractors are government sponsored jobs programs funded by deficit spending that uphold the technology fetish status quo. creating practical or useful weaponry isn't the objective.
>>532872664Oh really?You are just throwing that out there with zero source?Stupid troon
>>532872808Still waiting for your source where Russia admitted thier military was crippled by the loss of starlink, faggot.Do you nafo troons have any shame at all?
>>532862412Its really insane how the west has allowed itself to lose its manufacturing capability to this level. This is why manufacturing going overseas is such a strategic disaster.I assume the Russian drones are the same?
>>532872785That is the way to go.>>532872851You have more Ukranians and we have more Russians.They pay extra money to landlords here to not have their names in any paperwork, low profile, and again Ukranians and Russians sometimes live as roommates here. So instead of blowing each other to pieces they ended up cooking borscht to one another. And I respect that.So I wouldnt be worried about them thinking they are some occupation force. They can be called pacifists to a degree.
>>532862412What level of narccissm is it to screenshot your own fucking posts on a mongolian basketweaving forum to bring up later to show how right you were?
>>532862367knowing hohols they would disassemble, sell the data to the chinese and then tank the deal
>>532873285I dont claim that all of them are dangerous, but some significant percent is. 100% of sabotages we had here in last years were performed by Ukrainians. It is irrelevant if they do this for Russia or for desperate Ukraine that tries to drag other countries into war for its well-understood and natural interest. The fact is that a lot of these people are ready to cooperate with foreign powers against Poland. On the other hand, plenty of them are just food delivery workers with no bad intentions. I am not trying to dehumanize anyone.
>>532863781>If we talk about remote ethnic roots, then IsraelPlease kill yourself. Jews are a fake race. You have no ethnic ties to Palestine you kike.
>>532863794And what's the reality of jewcraine? A mass open-air grave where the pigs eat the hohol conscripts who were dragged off the street? That's what tourism is like in every country trench-meat, get back to the front, zelenski needs a new golden toilet
>>532873529BTW, i dont blame Ukrainians for any of these sabotages. I blame only and exclusively the criminal Polish regime that opened our borders for millions of people without any proper counter-intelligence check-up. These muppets should hang for this. They did this only to supply cheap workforce for FDIs installed in Poland.
>>532873529why are you writing poland instead of bolanda now?
>>532868692They had terrain advantage. Ukraine and Russia are extremely flat in comparison.
>>532873529Not really surprising. Organized crime in eastern Europe will do anything for cash, zero loyalty to thier host nation.
>>532873774>without any proper counter-intelligence check-up90% of the issues could be solved by checking their residency pre-2022 lmao
>>532872867??The overwhelming vast majority of drones exclusively use injection molded plasticHow good do you think a 3D printed propeller would be?CEO of 3D printing who lies and says he doesn't own one because he's embarrassed over it just makes shit up lmao
>>532874138Organized crime was wiped out in Poland circa half of 00s with a lot of sacrifice and effort. It currently comes back here and turns us back in time to 90s due to human import from the Ruskiy Mir.
>>532868692>>532874006No and no.Afganis were supplied with Stinger missiles that was actually a wunderwaffen for its time. And that nullified the airforce of Russia the first go round. Without helicopters the Russians had to take detours around hills and mountains that were nothing but hotspots for ambushes.The American invasion on the other hand was for keeping the opium production in the country. After the advent of syntechnic opium like fentanyl there was no need to stay there.
>>532874303The Golden Triangle switched to Meth production.Zelensky was just caught giving drones and training to terrorists in Myanmar (along with a US glownigger). He probably keeps his troops amped up on meth.>https://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2026/Mar/17/ukraine-protests-arrest-of-six-nationals-in-india-terror-probe-us-reacts-cautiously>The arrested US national has been identified as Matthew Aaron Van Dyke. The six Ukrainians have been identified as Hurba Petro, Slyviak Taras, Ivan Sukmanovskyi, Stefankiv Marian, Honcharuk Maksim, and Kaminskyi Viktor. According to officials, after arriving in India, the group travelled to Guwahati and then moved to Mizoram without obtaining the mandatory Restricted Area Permit (RAP), which is required for foreign nationals visiting certain border areas.>“They allegedly crossed the border into Myanmar with the intention of carrying out a ‘pre-scheduled training for Myanmar-based Ethnic Armed Groups (EAGs)’. They also delivered multiple consignments of drones from Europe," the NIA official said. These ethnic armed groups are believed to have links with insurgent organisations operating in India, particularly in the Northeast, and are known to provide training in drone warfare, assembly, and jamming technologies.
>>532872543>the overwhelmingUkraine produces 10 million drones a yearShow me where the majority of that is all injection molded, kike>CEO OF 3D PRINTINGShitskinned subhuman, I don't own a 3d printer, and you are seething.They even print clips for tourniquets.Not only are you wrong, but you're wrong about no 3D printed parts in Airbus.https://investors.stratasys.com/news-events/press-releases/detail/965/stratasys-supercharges-airbus-production-more-than-25000flat out wronghttps://www.stratasys.com/en/materials/materials-catalog/fdm-materials/ultem-9085/Seethe for me.
>>532874816Correct. 3D printed propellers probably wouldn't work, because the resolution on a 3D printer is shit.If you knew what you were talking about, or have ever made anything besides anime figurines, you'd know this
>>532862367Euro shit is terrible, they make shit with arrogance
>>532863618nooooo you will be raped by commies noooooo
>>532874915>correct>there is nothing 3D printed on the airbusHoly shit you are fucking SEETHING.How does it feel to be a shitskinned wrench turner that produces nothing and gets btfo this badly?
>>532863405Nah, just the EurotrashThe American shit might be expensive, but it does what’s intended
>>532862367Ukraines top drone gut got blown up by Iran, they're full of shit
>>532862367>igor>seething about ukrainealways
>>532875139Iran is a Chinese puppy so they are bit harder and more full of surprises than Ukrainians with their overblown yet wimpy Western support xD
>>532875027It is not that simple. You should have gotten the French boats for starters. The AUKUS is the worst deal in the world.
ukraine made 10 year agreement with 3 gulf states regarding air defenses
>>532875392True. Only Ukraine and China will earn on this tho, not the weak West xD
>>532875392Source:>Zelensky said so
>>532875334Indeed, but that was because of stupid fucking politics and politicians, not engineering
>>532875506I am.not exactly sure how helpful is this Ukrainian assistance. I read few obituaries of Ukrainian soldiers fallen in ME during training missions after some Iranian attack. But it is true that Ukraine is punching above its league now. They try to be a factor of power abroad despite having war at home. The only question is who is behind this miracle. I sense the Chinese influence desu xD
>>532874997Imagine being such a failure in life that you can't even conceive of a person having a job that requires education and training, taking so much personal offense to your $300 microplastic generation hobby.Enjoy stocking them shelves, hope your print tonight doesn't fuck up. I'm sure the 800th fidget toy will be super cool and bring you fulfillment.
>>532875683Well I just checked a bunch of articles and the only source for the story is Zelensky said this.Found this:>https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/3/27/ukraine-announces-defense-pact-with-saudi-arabia>Saudi Arabia’s state news agency said the two countries had signed a memorandum on defence procurement.
>>532863618Lmao.No to powodzenia na wypizdowie poza Moskwabadem.
>>532875683>obituaries of Ukrainian soldiers fallen in MELiterally fake, at least the guys I've seen mentioned died like 2+ years ago
>>532862512Actually if you worry about corruption Ukraine is not place to look. Hungary is worst of the worst. Orban is most corrupted politician in whole europe. Many stories about him, his father and inner circle how they have got filthy rich. You blame Zelensky and his buddies stealing millions? Orban + buddies have stolen billions:One of the Orban closest friend, carpenter who was literally broke, got 4.8 billion fortune under five years after few succesfull deals with Orban government. This is just one of the examples, there are many more including Orban and his father.
>>532875392Funny how Qatar doesnt mention anything about buying drones>During the Ukrainian leader’s visit to Doha on Saturday, Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of State for Defence Affairs Sheikh Saoud bin Abdulrahman bin Hassan Al Thani met Ukraine’s Secretary of the National Security and Defence Council (NSDC) Rustem Umerov, and Chief of Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Andrii Hnatov.>“The agreement includes collaboration in technological fields, development of joint investments and the exchange of expertise in countering missiles and unmanned aerial systems,” Qatar’s Defence Ministry said in a statement during Zelenskyy’s visit.
>>532876125Thats possible. I saw this on X and it is full of fakes.
>>532875660Politics is part and parcel of every single foreign weapon procurement.Besides not all European weapon systems are trash. Yes some are retarded like this 200K German kamikaze drone with a one time use. But some stuff they manufacture are literally top shelf in their class.Sweden creates the most silent submarines in the world for example. They are very small and very hard to detect, covered with plastic. They can be invaluable for your country since you are covered by shallow waters where submarines cannot dive deep and can be tracked. A Swedish sub became a global celebrity 2 decades ago when it was able target and fire it's torpedoes(simulated) to US aircraft carriers multiple times during military exercises. The carrier strike group was unable to track it regardless of its efforts.
>>532866213Chinese internal migration is going south. If anything, the northern provinces are underpopulated as is. Siberia is to China what Canada is to the US.
>>532865070>the small kidexcept the dindu nuffin small kid is starting shit and trying to call the classyard's biggest bully to sort out his messUkrainians deserve getting their teeth smashed in even harder. Bully nation getting rekt hard is karmatic justice
>>532875734Imagine being a shitskinned wrench turner so poor that you hop IPs because you're either tethering like a nigger on your boost mobile plan or have a turdie VPN.Guess your magical kike spell couldn't summon a working loitering munition that actually works, could it?I make $134k salaried (before bonuses) remote sitting on my ass now working producing software and I've done everything from operating 2,000 degree kilns that actually make things, to an asc in drafting for technician, mechanical, and electrical positions, unlike you, shitskinned wrench turner.Call me when you can afford internet with a static IP. Maybe I'll give you a job cleaning out the septic tank in my cabin instead of being a smelly turdie who turns wrenches all day.
>>532876147Role of the interceptor drone is overrated desu.If you detect enemy drones early and are able to track them, you can destroy them all sorts of ways, shooting with belt-fed guns from ground, helicopter, fighter jet or even propeller plane.
>>532876670>STOP BULLYING POOR RUSSIAXAXAXAXAXA get FUCKED pidor
>>532873356Shut the fuck up, Nigel
>>532876899In the upcoming world war I am going to hunt for diasporids like you and inflict excruciation torture until you croak, personallyLife unworthy of life. The only thing mattering is the day you and your kin are slaughtered like your psychopathic Ukroturd vermin kin
>>532862367>letting turks design yourr weapons
>>532877007>In the upcoming world war I am going to hunt for diasporidsyou are a weak faggot that wont do shit, just like you are now cowering in fear with fantasies of cruelty. you are a failure, and the world sinking into war will not fix that. also, you have to go back
>>532875683>>532875392there is a huge difference between Ukraine and MEzelensky can create PPT presentations with 100% intercepted drones and missiles, if you disagree you go to frontline and die oil arabs can create same PPT presentations, they dont need help of zelensky, but real world will not changeThere were lot of rich and clever people holding money in all that Dubais and a lot of very expensive oil&gas assets that were located exactly in physical reality or so called "real world"
>>532864260I bet that if I were the U.S. or russian president, I could force Iran/Ukraine to surrender unconditionally within 24 hours.The options are there; capitalists just don't have the guts to do it.
>>532877065Drones made in Turkey were the only large drones ukraine had when the war started. Of course they ripped off the designs.
>>532876899meanwhile your jewkrainian compatriots become worm fodder irl while you hide in your ap't in Wienstart shit get hitplay stoopid games win stoopid prizesFAFOyou're the malding lil faggot shilling for involving other countries in your losing war. bet you won't even go back to Ukraine to pick up your dead comrades strewn across the battlefields, bitch titsUkrainians including ukro jews are cowardly, psychopathic heartless monsters
>>532877150>said the faggot who pretends he is fighting the war by calling people brown
>>532877198This German drone has nothing to do with the drones we are making. It is more related to the Russian Lancet drone.The main difference is that the Russian Lancet costs 35K and this German drone costs 200K.
>>532877172It is not about guts. Russia and the US have critical limitations nowadays. Their leaders would do this if they could but they cant.
Cost is 2k per unit. Designed to be paired with the robin IRIS radar. Can also be used as a manpad, locks onto anything with an outline.
>>532863794>lawNah, in Russia everyone view foreigners as kind of retarded children, if you not some famous vile journalist clearly coming with bad intentions. If you break some illogical laws that you couldn’t have known its ok, most probably they will just let you go. For a polish it is easier to travel, they still can communicate a few words in emergency. Learning cyrillics is advised though.
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>>532871744I too deal with aeroshit. It really is as bad as people say. Reminder the Boeing door plug incident was likely because the shitty shopfloor execution software is so fucking bad (it is virtually every aerojoke company I dealt with) that people were basically using chat apps to do buyoffs and notify people wtf they're doing. The whole industry needs to be nuked from orbit and I hope Anduril or some other meme startup does it, but their fixation on fixed cost will ruin them.
>>532877534Tell that to the bald and bankrupt cuck, who was broomed by FSB for being a "khokhol spy" before throwing him out of the country
>>532877445Holy fucking shit.No.The initial post we are talking under is misinfo.The German drone costs 60K Euros per unit.Not 200K.I guess the 200K number was the price for the initial batch.
>>532862367The smart business decision would be to take the German drones and then just sell them on the African black market at a mark up. Then with the money you can buy drones that work. Or, you know, cocaine.
>>532876131Isn't Hungary fed up with Jewish blight? They are passing laws that to combat the Jewish privilege that is rampant. Why is a rabbi posting with a Nazi flag? Is that normal here?
>>532877355>by calling people browndelulu. schizophrenic hallucination. get better soon.
>>532877626I don’t know who that is, but he was probably a hohol spy. I know many people travelling to russia and they had no problems.
>>532877468Since when are capitalists nationalists? The last thing a capitalist wants is a strong nation-state. As little government as possible means more power for the capitalist.Or why have our rich people invested their money in Chinese companies even though China wants to screw us all over?
>>532877699arent you retards getting tired of this cope? i was promised european politicians would be blown up by smuggled and sold Javelins. nothing. the only one causing shit are russnig agents burning down factories.
>>532877847>I don’t know who that is, but he was probably a hohol spy.yeah, probably. kek
>>532877445>The main difference is that the Russian Lancet barely works and routinely misses, while the German one actually works and has longer rangefixed that for you my turkish friend
>>532877872Why would the Jewkrainians want to blow up European politicians? Those are the only people giving them free stuff, even if it is just junk.
>>532877786btw, hungary was very important in the pastGolem as a weapon was invented in Hungary by rabbi Judah Loew ben BezalelMost probably Soros wants to take over hungary to take possession of that knowledgemeat goys are finite and jews will need new weapon soon
>>532863239Germany and Poland have also gained millions of white refugees few people complain about.
>>532877933We were talking about the desing. And it looks like a Lancet drone, and looks nothing like the drones we are building over here.And again the OPs post about the price is misinfo.>>532877664It does not cost 200K. It costs 60K.Regardless, Ukranians cancelling the orders for the German drone is true. It is shared by multiple sources. You can be objective for that at the very least.
>>532878063>Why would the Jewkrainians want to blow up European politicians?Because they win elections by saying stop sending money to Ukraine? Are you lost in your own sauce?
>>532878312>they win elections by saying stop sending money to UkraineAnd what does that tell you?Stupid fucking troonBetter cancel more elections to maximize freedom and democracy!
>>532877912In Russia generally foreigners are not viewed as enemy. That is in europe where every russian is automatically considered a representative of putin and roght away could be discriminated because of the passport. Everyone likes tourists in Russia alot, especially european. Most likely people would just feel abit embarassed because the place is not really tourist ready. Nothing is for show off except some special areas which are not many. Nothing is there looks like its made for holidays, just regular life. Europe is completely touristic where everything is made pretty for tourists to come and spend the money. Russia is the opposite, but no one wants your money there either.
I generally believe that there will be no war China vs West. I think that the West just implemented its own "one child policy" (but much worse) to mass-murder its own white populations with "vaccines", euthanasia, abortion etc, replace them with 70 IQ nignogs and AI/robots, and continue to exist as harmless fully enslaved human ZOO fully dependent on Chinese tech. So everything we talk about here is kinda pointless yet fascinating xDThe West cant win vs China, it is impossible already and i could explain for hours why.t. OP
>>532878230Ah, you mean the juxtaposing one way strike UAVs vs the Bayraktar-like ones? Sure, Turkey has good progress in that. I'm waiting to see how Kizilelma works. >Ukranians cancelling the orders for the German drone is trueSome journalists are retarded and misreport things, e.g. one contract is done (e.g. in January), another is made (also in Janurary) and so on. The Helsing drones are used right now with great success. So I doubt that any order for them specifically are cancelled.
>>532878460>Stupid fucking troonkek. getting upset? So why arent the hohols killing politicians that are anti-ukraine? any theories? >>532878488>are not viewed as enemy>feel abit embarassed because the place is not really tourist ready>no one wants your money there eitherkudos to you for keeping up the charade until the last sentence.
>>532878695>are you upsetHoly shit this is a bot
>>532878789>fucks up his own logic>gets called out>chimps the fuck outYEP
>>532878488https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZzXEJ3bcw4
>>532862367Ukraine has good drone doctrine I wish the world could just pay attention to it and understand the game changer that drones are. Yes Ukraine should cozy up to China
>>532878523I wish you did not share the misinfo stating that the drones cost 200K man. They cost 60K a piece.But about China.China is the next Babylon to be. They are going to replace the US but it is by design.They had everything granted to them on a silver platter. From nuclear weapons and tech to missile, rockets and satellite tech. From getting every company in the world to move their factories over there to getting more awards and honors in the UN council than any other country.Their rise to power as the greatest economy in the world is not because they are smart or genius or anything like that, it is again by design, they are the next Babylon to be. This is what the overlords want. They got every single thing on a silver platter.https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-may-23-mn-52739-story.htmlwww.newsweek.com/chinese-military-power-us-might-643022https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Cox_Report_controversy
>>532879261Not really. The Chinese are nazis but successful ones for a change xD
>>532878954look just like some bullshit, but i am glad he survived and made a video. The usual rule is that when you come to russia you don’t really think that american law applies there. You can do it in Poland, but Russia is independent country. So if you don’t know details of russian law, or a local lawer to call, just stick to normal activities that you can prove you didn’t do anything bad with simple logic.
Adding to this story>>532874696Be kind to the people shilling for ukraine here. Zelensky's muslim terrorist allies in Myanmar have been kidnapping people to shill for ukraine online.>https://www.rfa.org/english/china/2025/01/13/china-hong-kong-myanmar-kk-park-scam-victims/>Hong Kong authorities have sent a task force to Thailand in a bid to rescue an estimated 12 victims of Myanmar’s notorious scam parks, citing a “resurgence” in criminal activity targeting the city’s residents.>“Since the second quarter of 2024, there have been signs of a resurgence in the situation where Hong Kong residents are suspected of being lured to Southeast Asian countries and detained to engage in illegal work,” the Security Bureau said in a statement on Sunday.>The move follows the high-profile rescue of Chinese TV actor Wang Xing from the notorious KK Park scam facility in Myawaddy, near the border with Thailand.
>>532879356dude they got every single fucking thing.I am not saying this to besmirch them but they were living in poverty just 30 years ago.Now they are where they are.If you think this happened because of the ingenuity you are beyond naive.Again, they got granted nuclear technology, space and satellite technology, telecommunication and FAB technology, figher planes technology, among many other things, on a silver platter.https://www.thebignewsletter.com/p/how-bill-clinton-and-american-financiersthey are the next Babylon to be. They could have been contained after WW2, they were the most vulnerable country during and after WW2. They could have been stomped and prevented to rise at will. But atas they were granted everything they have and they are where they are now.
>>532879447>you don’t really think that american law applies thereSo Russian law allows them to just convict people on made up bullshit and imprison them for weeks? Good to know, snownigger.He stayed in the same prison as Bald and Bankrupt did too.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsLIeY685VIWhich is hilarious because Bald is the biggest Russiaboo you'll find in Europe.Both of these retards were sympathetic to Russia and got locked up.
>>532864208Holy cope
>>532879781I talked to few Chinese here in PL, a diplomat and few businessmen during an event about AI. Completely different class of people. They talk with Haushofer, big space geopolitics, everything they say is wise and rational, everything adds up. I had absolutely different feelings while talking to representatives of so called "Western elites". They were dumb like animals. Nobody would give shit to China. They took everything themselves.
>>532879890Until Zelensky stops demanding Russia "gives" him Crimea/LPR/DPR the war will never end.
>>532864136I guess it makes sense that playing lots of counterstrike is a prerequisite to seeing what russia is actually like. Since really the only way to meet Russians online is playing video games.
>>532880239>Since really the only way to meet Russians online is playing video games.Or working in some project / online community, yeah. I got like a dozen friends in russia during 2002-2012 from online shit.
>>532880146Yea you are making me disregard everything you stated so far.The accounts of espionage is on record. Countless times. The link below is for satellite and rocket technology alone.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Cox_Report_controversyThey were one of the permanent members of the UN. Even though they were one of the most inconsequential countries during and after WW2. Again they could have been crushed and left crushed by every nation that actually had some say during WW2. Again. they were granted everything. And it is on record. For you to deny this makes me disregard everything you stated on this thread so far.
>>532880161Well I mean Putin could just let Ukraine win magically too. But realistically Russia cannot win the war in Ukraine anymore than the US cannot just beat Iran with a mass mobilization. Similar to how the UK couldn't "win" the American revolution. Reality is not a video game where the stronger army wins, internal politics, and the cost benefit matter.
>>532880543You underestimate China imo and overestimate "hidden powers" like Jews, globalists etc. China used a classic Lenins tactics against the West: capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them. But it doesnt mean that they were given the stuff for free, or intentionally or as a result of some powers working in the shadows. They took it themselves. Now they are improving stuff they stole decades ago to such levels that are unachievable for the West. 1.4 bln people with average IQ oscilating around scores of askhenazi Jews. Thats the real power.
>>532880634>Russia can not win against a depopulated broke ukraine on its boder because its just like how England couldnt win against a colony on the other side of the ocean with only wooden ships to supply then while being attacked by the French navy.Oh wow its exactly the same. Are you a West Point graduate?
>>532880921Yea we can agree to disagree. It is a hard fact to admit for Chinese themselves especially. I mean, just moving every factory in the world into their mainland was a global security breach for almost every country but China. Many people saw it and called it as it is at the time but alas it happened. And China became a the manufacturing base of the entire world. And even that was by design.And that design goes beyond China. Currently Taiwan is the semiconductor capital of the world. But they cannot do shit without Dutch ASML photolithography machines. There is no reason for other than ulterior motives for the Dutch to replace Taiwan. They own the tech, why do you think it is Taiwan and not the Dutch that have a monopoly in semiconductors?
>>532881461Globalism became a dominant ideology of last decades. It opened a lot of doors for the Chinese because they offered best educated workforce for lowest price.
please someone kill off ukrainei want the ukrained killed like in a TV series, where the die (its shocking for a single episode) then they are dead and never come backplease kill off ths abomination countrysomeone,anyone
>>532862367I work in german company which produce printing machines and right now central announced that we will together with some turkish company start making drones and electric vehicles looking like mini tanks. Literally what in the fuck...
>>532881653It is still a security breach.The economical juggernaut China became today was foreseen by many people. America is supposedly against China today, but they knew moving their factories over there would turn them into the biggest economy of the world. Dont you think many Americans saw this decades ago? Dont you think they complained and spoke against it?If America was really worried about China wouldnt she stop feeding China the way she fed it for decades?And you still havent answered my question about Taiwan and Netherlands.
>>532881837>It is still a security breachGreed and ultra high margins were more important for the US of A than long term security assessments. Americans actually hoped for China to become a liberal democratic country in result of getting richer which was a delusion xDASML holds monopoly on EUV machines essential for sub-7nm chips, yet TSMC dominates advanced semiconductor manufacturing. ASML sells tools, TSMC integrates them with proprietary process tech, ultra-high yields and ecosystem for mass production at scale. The Dutch never built fabs or pursued chipmaking.Meanwhile Beijing is very close to copying larger DUV systems without true EUV miniaturization, leaving it few years behind on cutting-edge nodes. Taiwans know-how, not just hardware, is the real moat here. Anyways, i predict that the Chinese (without Taiwan) would catch up Nvidia/TSMC in early 30s. With Taiwan - even faster xD
>>532881837Taiwan is the semiconductor manufacturing capital of the world because the government went all in sometime around the 70s/80s back when demand was nowhere near as great as it is now and it was relatively easy to become the biggest player in the market, especially since they were able to take advantage of relatively cheap labour willing to put in gruelling hours compared to the tech companies in more developed nations. IIRC the Taiwanese government was actively looking for a young industrial sector that looked like it had potential to grow to become globally strategically important in the future so they could get in on the ground floor and become a major player so that in the future China would hopefully be discouraged from attacking them for fear of disrupting an important node of the global supply chain, and semiconductor manufacturing was what they decided to bet on. And obviously that bet paid off beyond anyone's wildest dreams, if TSMC's foundries exploded it would probably spectacularly crash the entire global economy overnight.
>>532862367>>532873942 Drones are a barbaric area denial weapon with no strategic purpose. It's to maim and terrorize like when you cough up your lungs from mustard gas.
>>532882465Yea and you are still overlooking the obvious. To the point that I cannot take this discourse serious anymore.If every country is for themselves and are competing to pull each other down, there is no explanation for the current state of the world, no explanation why the Dutch did not keep the monopoly to themselves and pursued chipmaking.There also no explanation for Americans to give away tech so the Chinese can build the J-20.>The Chengdu J-20, China's first fifth-generation stealth fighter, is believed to incorporate technologies derived from US aerospace, specifically the F-22 and F-35 programs, acquired through extensive cyber espionage and intelligence gathering.There is also no explanation for the Cox Report.>The Cox Report (1999) is a declassified report by a U.S. House Select Committee, chaired by Rep. Christopher Cox, investigating the transfer of sensitive military and commercial technology to the People’s Republic of China (PRC). It concluded that China engaged in widespread espionage, stealing U.S. nuclear warhead designs (e.g., W-88) to modernize their weapons.>>532882892Again man, they are using Dutch ASML photolithography machines. They cannot do shit without them. There is no reason for the Dutch to not pursue chipmaking on their own. But alas it is Taiwan that has the monopoly on semiconductors in the world currently. Make it make sense.
>>532883165Chip production requires separate expertise in process integration, massive fabs, yields and supply ecosystems that TSMC mastered over _long decades_. ASML focuses on lithography monopoly. Both do two completely different things and both cant exist without each other. It is symbiosis. You are wrong if you think that you can establish TSMC-tier fabs in Europe/USA in a short time, like a year or so xD
>>532877445They're still using the Hershey bar rectangular wing planform. Why not build one with a sweep wing planform like the B2 or the shahed
>>532881103Just because you can't understand analogies doesn't mean you have to be rude Vivek.
>>532862367>germoids engineeringuhhhh, yikes
>>532883479They can still not sell the machines. Just as every other company in the world can just not build their factories in mainland China. Again, Taiwan cant produce shit without Dutch tech.And again, if every country in the world is for themselves, why the fuck would the Dutch participate in making Taiwan the monopoly that it is today.The lithography is the most important part of the semiconductor technology man. There is nothing stopping the Dutch from building their own fabs and selling chips to the world. Not to mention preventing another country from becoming a monopoly themselves, at the very least.You are trying to play dumb and overlooking the technology transfer to China from the get to, regardless. So it is very hard for me to take this discourse in good will. They got granted every single thing on a silver platter man, along with their permanent spot in the UN as a founding member. Even though they were a fucking joke during and after WW2.For you to not acknowledge the obvious makes it very hard for me to take this conversation with good will.
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>>532883765>you dont understandIf anything, retard, the separatists are akin to the American revolutionaries because the were taxxed up the ass and got no government services in return so they declared independance from the corrupt regime in Kiev.
>>532883887You think that China is too dumb/primitive to achieve what it achieved only on the basis of its own effort? Your theory is that some "shadow powers" make China strong in intentional way at expense of the West? Am i correct?
>>532862367Helsing is a start upi hope you kill yourself you waste of space
>Maybe capitalism has failed developed societies? >Nah it's the Jews and the browns or something
>>532884030>people wanting to reunited with their bigger original empire are actually separatistsH1B shills really are low quality huh.
>>532884071It is on fucking record that they got granted everything. It is what it is. For you to even deny this is the mark of insincerity.You can call it shadow powers or some other shit like that in a condescending tone, makes no matter.Their rise to power is not happenstance. Just as their permanent spot as one of the founding members of the UN, even though they were an inconsequential country during and after WW2. They are the next Babylon to be. And it is by design. No country with a sense of self preservation would have assisted in turning them to what they are now. It is against the rules of self preservation. But alas for some people the world is nothing but a globe, lacking any borders, and China is the darling they chose to prop up and give everything to on a silver platter.
>>532884161>capitalism has failed developed societiesThats the most retarded post in this threadThe UK left behind thriving capitalist economies in thier former colonies.India, Bahahas, Hong Kong, Austrailia, Canada, and the USA.Other European colonizing nations not so much.
>>532884335Do you think anyone believes your retarded nafo tranny faggot narrative?Its the official term, retard troon>https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Separatist_forces_of_the_war_in_Donbass
>>532883604This Terra A1 interceptor is a prototype, not battle-tested, from Ukrainian/Japanese startups. Its still awaiting trials in Ukraine, no production or deployment in the Gulf yet. Terra A1s electric propulsion (brushless motors + Li-ion packs) depends fully on Chinese supply-chain chokepoints: China produces 90% of global sintered rare-earth magnets for high-torque motors and refines >70% of lithium/graphite for compact, high-density batteries. Even Japanese-Ukrainian assembly cannot bypass these material/processing monopolies for cost-effective scaling. Claiming that Russia might be "scared" of such toys is also overestatement. Geran-3 variants use Chinese Telefly turbojets for sustained >500 km/h speeds vs Terra A1 300 km/h electric limit plus superior integrated EW jamming that disrupts C2 links mid-intercept. Jet propulsion + higher kinetic energy outclasses battery-constrained electric designs technically
>>532884712>military-history.fandom.com/wikiJesus fucking Christ anon, was that really the best "source" you could dig up to support your batshit claims?
>>532884481>It is on fucking record that they got granted everythingI disagree and i think i wont argue anymore.
>>532884161Yes
>>532884888Your call.I provided the links already. It is already common knowledge at this point but cognitive dissonance cuts deep.People reading this thread can make up their own minds.>The Chengdu J-20, China's first fifth-generation stealth fighter, is believed to incorporate technologies derived from US aerospace, specifically the F-22 and F-35 programs, acquired through extensive cyber espionage and intelligence gathering.>The Cox Report (1999) is a declassified report by a U.S. House Select Committee, chaired by Rep. Christopher Cox, investigating the transfer of sensitive military and commercial technology to the People’s Republic of China (PRC). It concluded that China engaged in widespread espionage, stealing U.S. nuclear warhead designs (e.g., W-88) to modernize their weapons.https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1998-may-23-mn-52739-story.htmlhttp://www.newsweek.com/chinese-military-power-us-might-643022https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_Cox_Report_controversy
>>532884877>attack sourceYou faggot ukraine shills need better tactics
>>532884794>For the first time Ukraine lunches more drones than RussiansLMAO @ russian animals
>>532876131>Actually if you worry about corruption Ukraine is not place to look.PFFHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA
>>532884712Russia is losing in Ukraine. The US is losing in Iran. No refunds. Straits closed.
>>532885270There's really nothing to argue with, the retard has spent the majority of the thread misspelling "satallite" and other words and Russia funded the separatists since 2005. They failed in their referendum despite being funded by Russia and then glowniggers, wagnerites, and Russian military on "holiday" invaded the Donbas and started killing civilians in 2014, despite their copes that the trade union building came first, it was definitely Girkin and glowniggers who came first in the Donbas who, by their own admission, murdered civilians.
>>532884712>>https://military-history.fandom.com/wiki/Separatist_forces_of_the_war_in_Donbasskys lying nigger
>>532885624Crimea is rightfully property of Turkey.
>>532885412He is not completly wrongUkraine has completely eliminated all election fraud for the last 7 years.Can you name another democracy on earth that eliminated all election fraud?No you cantYou lostBrown VPN subhuman And LOL your sourceIvanoh and HPV/HIV gay military rapeWith Donkeys and shovels
>>532885274Polish media cover only attacks of Ukrainian drones on Russia recently which are in big scale a nothingburger. One of attacked ports already fully resumed operations. Meanwhile the same media intentionally "forget" to inform you how much Russia trashes Ukraine in retalitation. They do this for a reason to present Russia as "weak" so it was easier to draft you to this war if needed in near future.
Good thing we have Ukraine to teach, try out and provide feedback to improve our drones. I'm sure even Americans could take some pointers, but Trump has made this personal and his ego won't let him to co-operate with Ukraine.
>>532885826Why are countries full of Subhuman East Slavs expected to hold elections? Does the Zoo have elections?
>>532885578>Russia funded the separatists since 2005.And the west funded KievWhats your point faggot shill>anyone who sucks at spelling is Russian spy in disguise!Get new material tranny faggot shill
>>532873356Easier than rewriting them every time, from personal experience.
>>532885578>Girkin and glowniggers who came first in the Donbas who, by their own admission,Girkin is not a them/them tranny faggot shill. Your pronouns are showing
>>532885836what port is operational? russians recovered 4% out of 50% of their oil export capacity xDall bridges on dniepr are still standing seems like russians are incompetent
>>532885836>One of attacked ports already fully resumed operations.Can you link to the article detailing this?>>532885975You're now samefagging.7mPFTWgk is your previous IDNo, the west did not fund Ukranian separatists in Ukraine. Nor did it fund "Kiev" or "Kyiv" or whatever you are implying.I'm sure you'll be a retarded faggot who will say that giving Ukraine non-lethal supplies in 2014, after Russia had not only annexed Crimea but had effectively annexed parts of the Donbas, is the equivalent to funding separatists in Ukraine, but it doesn't concern me because you'll make yourself look like the retarded faggot that you are.
>>532886280If you couldn't tell by the>50pbtidit's a shitposter. He'll post an article from half a month ago where they "partially resumed operations" only to get droned the next night.It's been like this for a month, they resume partial loadings and then Ukraine drones the shit again.April 7th, march, too many days to even recall. But I recognize him.
>>532886280>least retarded ukropmykola pls>>532886347mutt glowniggers have been funding kosher nazis since WW2
>>532886347On wifi now faggot shillYou seem like the same cocksucking lying faggot thats always here.YesObama gave Kiev at least 1.5 billion that we know of and let them buy lethal advanced weapons systems Its not even up for debate>https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/lethal-weapons-to-ukraine-a-primer/>In a rare show of bipartisanship in 2014, the US Congress passed the Ukraine Freedom Support Act, which appropriated $350 million in security assistance, including anti-tank and anti-armor weapons, to the government of Ukraine to defend its territorial integrity. Despite strong congressional backing, President Barack Obama decided not to authorize the US government sale or financing of lethal weapons to Ukraine. However, this policy did not prevent the private export of US-made lethal weapons to Ukraine.
>>532886625He should have given them nukes so Ukraine and Russia could nuke each other.
>>532886625your own quoted text says obama decided not to authorize a 350 mil sale. you said "OBama gave them 1.5 bill"you are either a troll or the biggest fucking retard that ever shilled for russia, and that is a huge accomplishment.
>>532886588>muh CIAPull out the copesI'm sure that the CIA contacting spies in Ukraine definitely led to the downfall of the USSR, thanks for your retarded snownigger opinion, time to go back and sign a contract>>532886625>Obama decided not to authorize the US government sale or financing of lethal weapons to Ukraine. Thank you for your concession.Also>2014Man, I'm good at predicting the copes of retards.
>>532886280>>532886496https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-04-10/oil-tanker-docks-at-key-russian-black-sea-port-after-attacks
>>532886920>black-sea-port-50% of russian oil export go through the baltic ports you fucking ape
>>532886806Now this faggot is pretending he cant read.>However, this policy did not prevent the private export of US-made lethal weapons to Ukraine.Rememer Biden>you dont get the billion dollars unless you fire the prosecutor?Maybe if you pretend harder that you are winning the arguement it will help.
>>532886920>The people confirmed the resumption of operations, asking to remain anonymous as the information isn’t publicKEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>532886872>>532887071Eat shit disinfo troon
>>532887071>Obama gave Kiev at least 1.5 billion>President Barack Obama decided not to authorize the US government sale or financing of lethal weapons to Ukrainekys retard. not worth any second of my day.
>>532886872I know that glowniggers ain't sending their best, but this is too retarded even for 80 IQ Carlos. Don't you worry, 5' kikes like Bandera won't be around for much longer.
>>532887136>calling himself disinfo troonbased schizophrenic
>>532887051>>532887121https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russias-baltic-ust-luga-port-resumes-oil-exports-sources-say-lseg-data-shows-2026-04-08/
>>532886920https://archive.is/TXusz> may be resuming operations after several days of disruption caused by Ukrainian attacks.They've been bombing this port, and the Baltic Sea ports, for over a month and your cope is that they "may" be resuming operations? After having just been attacked again several days ago? You're saying that this is "resuming full operations"?
>>532887344I posted wrong link. This one is proper:>>532887276
>>532887155Are you just going to keep pretending Congress didnt pass a law allowing lethal weapons sales to Kiev?>https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/2828Victoria Nuland went straight from running the Iraq war to Kiev to work on starting the next conflict and came with a boatload of cash to make it happen.
>>532887399>At least one tanker was loading at the Ust-Luga oil terminal on Wednesday, the sources said, adding that operations are likely to face further delays from continuing drone strikes.>The Jewel started to load oil over the weekend but did not leave immediately owing to drone attacks, the sources said.ANON EVEN THE ANONYMOUS SOURCES "FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER" HAVE DOUBT. 0 reference to the lseg data despite the title. 0. wanna try a third time?
>>532876131>Hungary is worst of the worst. Orban is most corrupted politician in whole europe.Bullshit. Orban and his group ain't saints, but I'd say they are significantly less corrupt than many of the western leaders, like Ursula von der Leyen for example. The socialist government before him was so corrupt and incompetent they drove the entire economy into the ground, Greece-style. >You blame Zelensky and his buddies stealing millions? No, he and his buddies stole billions. Ukraine had been easily the most corrupt country in the continent for decades and Zelensky is worse than any of his predecessors.
>>532883165its not countries competing between themselves, but its the investors, who decide if such a factory is attempted to be made a reality, or not.
>>532887447Are you going to keep pretending you did not contradict yourself?>Obama gave Kiev at least 1.5 billionWas this blatantly incorrect, yes or no?
>>532863618I'm going to Spain!
>>532887619>Ursula von der Leyenlike clockwerk. enjoy your fat corrupted paprika for the last few days you can.
>>532883887>They got granted every single thing on a silver platter man, along with their permanent spot in the UN as a founding member. Even though they were a fucking joke during and after WW2.the communists were allies of the liberals during WW2, as both were for the jews, and against the nationalists.
>>532884481>No country with a sense of self preservation would have assisted in turning them to what they are now. It is against the rules of self preservation.It was kikes like kissinger, has been quite detailed here at pol, for example, that heiress of goldman sachs being part of the chink communist revolution.
>>532887615In 2025, Ukraine conducted nearly 160 strikes on Russian oil facilities (81 on refineries alone), hitting 21 of 38 major refineries with record monthly highs (,14 in Nov). Effect tiny: refining capacity dipped only 10% temporarily, but crude oil exports stayed 6% above pre-war levels. All of this thx to rapid repairs, and unlimited of spare parts that Russia takes from China. These port hits are no different. Besides law was established in Russia to oblige all ports and refineries to invest in anti-drone interceptors now in early 2026 so these attacks will be less and less effective.
>>532887661So you dont remember Biden blackmailing Ukraine?Billion dollars for firing the prosecutor investigating his son?You dont see the 350 million in the congressional bill?Plus the USAID/CIA funding as a cherry on top.Move goalposts harder nafo troon
>>532887908>What is your source?>Article 1>This Article doesnt say what you say>Oh i meant Article 2>this Article also doesnt say what you say>Here, I have this, pulled from my assthank you.
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