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>run entire continent down into complete geopolitical and soon economic irrelevance
Friendly reminder France alone was a relevant and respected international player in 80's and 90's. Their word mattered.
Now whole continent is completely toothless, without focus, led into a completely pointless suicidal conflict with Russia.
This was the most successful Anglo-Jewish operation by far.
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>"noo you don't get it, you had to let Russia closer, then they wouldn't be trying to kill you"
dumb vpn pidor go kill yourself
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>>532864001
>This was the most successful Anglo-Jewish operation by far.
>Anglo-Jewish
germutt-frenchcuck actually
I'm tired of pretending most eurocucks are some goodboi dindu nuffins and not retarded niggercattle who love their ursuloid eu overlords
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>>532864001
Except this is not remotely true, the EU is going great and we are coming back soon.
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>>532864001
The truth is the world is literally a much bigger place than in antiquity. Europe was never going to be a global power on an 8 billion human planet after culling their young fighting age male population 2 generations in a row.
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>you don't get it, if you're not united but instead split into 30 countries you would be stronger!!!
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>>532864001
What country even is "ME"? Don't you have some rice you should be harvesting right now or something? Those 3 monthly dollars aren't gonna grow themselves.
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it's nordicks fault they sold nokia and ericsson and the whole region eventually lost control over media outlets leading to zoomers and younger consuming us propaganda which turned them all into wiggers
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>>532865785
LITERALLY THE TRUTH.
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Da. The collective west is of very weak and irrelevant.
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>>532864001
since the EU is making both russia and the usa butthurt and also china, its probably not that useless. otherwise they wouldnt complain so much about it.
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>>532864001
>>532864355
Where are the errors VPN kike, Christine Lagarde the head of EU is literally a Frenchfrog kike, who wouldve tought huh considering the one in power in Francistan are all kikes ahahaha they are the same who bombed the shit outta Libia, took out Gheddafi and started these last waves of niggers
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>>532865922
Euros in general, but Nordics in particular just thought the whole ((rules based order)) was real and selling their most valuable assets (Nokia, Volvo, Ericsson, MAN, etc) to the highest foreign bidder was """fair game""" since """we all play by the same rules""" and we can also """buy their stuff freely on Wall Street""" but guess what : NOTHING OF VALUE IS FOR SALE IN THOSE COUNTRIES. Strategically valuable companies only float 10% of their stock on the public market. Only France was smart enough to say "yeah no. its not for sale" on any of their valuable assets and infrastructure when the Jews came knocking.
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>>532864001
USA and Israel are currently in process of committing their own suicide so we’re gonna break even soon.
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>>532864001
Yeah except nothing what you said is true. We're getting back on the horse now that US/Israel are running themself to the ground and you're mad because you found yourself in no-man's land, faggot.
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and now all the countries that sold all of their valuable assets (UK, Sweden, Finland, Greece, Germany, etc) are all basically woke sinking shitholes with ZOG at the helm. While the ones who said fuck off to the Jews like Switzerland are thriving.

But their real mistake was creating a Jewish controlled currency let by a ZOG central bank with literally zero political and national oversight. Who the fuck thought this was going to """bring prosperity""" ?? The fact that europeans are ok with having some vaguely semi private, non-elected ECB institution lording them around economically is insane to me. Who the fuck would think abdicating your right over currency to such an institution would be a good idea? WTF. But people in the 90s where hopeful and naive... A different breed that went extinct.
This is why I Think FRANCE will get out of the Euro sometime in the near future. They know this Euro bullshit will kill their political free will. They have to know.
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>>532864001
infinite muslims and woke policies towards them played a MASSIVE role
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>>532866371
The Muslims came because of Amerisrael's wars.
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>dismantle your own energy sector
>antagonize your big neighbour who fuels your industry for cheap
>try to buy highly overpriced fuels from your colonial master overseas
>it's not sustainable
>start buying russian fuels again but this time through india and at a higher price
>continue to antagonize russia
>sanction indian companies over russian ties while continuing to buy their fuels (???)
>antagonize zion don by not joining his satanic crusade against iran, which limits your options further
>but also do nothing to stop the judeoamerican war which now halted your fuel supplies from the middle east
>remove orban so you can give more free money to ukraine and sanction russia some more while still trying to buy their stuff
I'm sure even bush niggers from dark Africa have better planning skills.
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>>532866507
>noooo you can't defend yourselves against muslim terrorists you must surrender to russia
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>>532866507
>>antagonize your big neighbour who fuels your industry for cheap
How did Europe antagonise Russia? Everyone was doing business with Putin and pretending he's not a dictator before he decided to start a war in Ukraine.
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You forgot
> Create a bullshit currency with zero political or democratic oversight (but in reallity, controlled by Jews) because MuH cEnTraL baNK inDePenDaNcE is (((gOoD)))! eVeRyOnE knOwS ThIs! mY eCoNomY tEacHeR toLd mE sO iN 3rd gRaDe! so you can all be a happy colony just like West Africa, with their Franc CFA.
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>>532864001
It's not the EU that did that, it was the West in general.
Back in the 90s, the EU had the biggest economy in the world, above the US.
But then US and Western companies offshoring shit to China pretty much wrecked their own economies for the sake of higher corporate profits.
And then you could see Italian carmaking declining, Italian textiles moving to SE Asia, Euro carmakers mergers because they weren't competitive anymore vs Japan.

If anything the EU shielded them somewhat from having to face brutal competition with cheaper Asian shit but this is becoming impossible to stop now.

And it's also a natural result of Westerners becoming comfort creatures who want to do some performative easy job, push some papers (services) and get paid royally and get free healthcare and nice holidays and so many rights. It was obvious this was gonna crack at some point down the road. And that had fuckall to do with the EU.

I mean OP is a paid shill, he has a posting quota and he's gonna post this until he beats it into you brain. And you're gonna believe. So I know I'm probably writing this for nothing. Propaganda on stupid crowds works a lot better than actually doing the legwork to check everything which takes time and is hard.
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>532866781
Its not the EU that did that its the Euro.

You are almost there anon. keep digging and thinking critically. You'll get there.
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>>532866371
ok, nigger.
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>>532866960
The EU started declining when Asia started rising.
Having a common currency couldn't play much of a role in the global trade, on the contrary, removing the cost of currency exchange was a net positive.

The usual argument runs that the Euro made less competitive economies even weaker vs more competitive ones. So a strong common currency played to the exporters' advantage _inside_ the EU. But in extra-EU trade, that didn't play the same role.

And how was it Germany's fault that Greek economy was shit? And that a lot of Greeks liked to cheat the system and cook their stats to make their financial situation look much better than it was? It's just that Greece doesn't have much industry, their economy relies a lot on passive income like tourism.

Also you need to take into account that China cheated by keeping its currency low artificially to boost its exports. This fucked with both EU and US trade, that's why you could hear both of them complain about China being a currency manipulator.
But the deeper causes were the West was losing competitiveness against Asia, where most Western capital fled to take advantage of cheap labour and low environmental standards.
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>>532865077
Name one person anywhere who likes Ursula. Even us krauts took it as "finally she got promoted away" when she moved to the EU. And even the most pro EU niggercattle these days is able to point out the obvious antidemocratic flaws in the european system.
This absolutely is the most successful trick jews played on us (yet).

>>532866370
>who said fuck off to the Jews
>Switzerland
>the parasite of europe
>infamous for draining water wells
You can't be serious. You are THE jew of Europe.
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>>532864355
>No you dont get it, when you have a nuclear superpower that can delete this planet multiple times over, you need to keep pushing more and more towards their borders. THEN they will start to respect you and be friendly to everyone around.
Russia literally wanted to join NATO in the late 90's. Westoid cucks refused because American foreign policy for that entire region all the way up to China, was set in stone in the 1960's and it doesnt change no matter who is the President.
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NAFOtroons are working overtime, huh. The speed of their retarded replies hints at bot usage.
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Several russbots all concentrated in this thread for some reason.
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>>532867152
Ok? That shit happened before I was even born. They can join for all I care, but they have to stop being warmongering thieving niggers.
We don't like war in Europe, so they can go fuck themselves until they cope with the fact that Ukraine and Poland and every other peaceful neighbor they have are sovereign countries, and will never be Russian again.
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>>532867123
>Name one person anywhere who likes Ursula. Even us krauts took it as "finally she got promoted away" when she moved to the EU.
you are 1 millenial male. against the army of boomer voters who absolutely love to vote cuckservative and dont really mind ursula, you are nothing, you are irrelevant.
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i rather live in le evil and le collapsing eu than any other place on earth
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>The EU started declining when Asia started rising.
This is wrong. Maybe in Romania you werent there to see it but Asia started rising in 1960 with made in Japan. We managed that fine even before 1990 bubble burst. And Japanese where working 24/7 producing better quality goods.

The Euro transferred all the wealth from SMEs, which are the engine of European economies, to transnational capital (Jews, Jewish owned media, corporations, etc). It doesn't take a genius to see that Swiss banks are led by Swiss people who lend money to finance Swiss companies. While the CEO of the 10 biggest Romanian companies are all bankrolled by (((international capital))). I don't even need to google their names. I know its true. They borrow money IN EURO to do business IN EURO. Guess what. They cant print EURO. Nor can they control the rate at which their EURO bonds will perform. If they don't follow (((THE RULES))) then no more EUR loans. No more Capital. No more Romanian company.
Literally a Franc CFA situation. At the European level. And Europeans are ok about it. like the good slaves they are. kek.
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>>532867123
We out-jewed the jews. You are their slave. Fight me Fritz.
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>>532866102
I despise all neocolonialism.
Israel should get erased for bothering its neighbors.
China should get erased for bothering Taiwan.
Russia should get erased for bothering Ukraine and waging proxy wars with us :3
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>>532864355
Even you mulatto cock suckers will have to admit that "Europe" would be much better of against muh evil Russia, if it would consist of strong nation state, rather than this weak suicidal bullshit that is the EU.

The EU alltogether, all those countries with over 400 million people, are weaker nowadays than individual European countries were 40 years ago.
How does weakness help you?
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>>532867648
So you hate the EU and want it to die for its colonialist bullshit of trying to conquer the whole continent?
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>>532867523
Not a single boomer likes Von der Leyen.
That whore is hated so mush, its unreal.

In fact, the idiotic boomers use her to justify their globohomo project:
>its only Von der Leyen, the EU would be awesome if there wouldn't be this witch there! We just have to wait till he is gone!
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>>532867648
You need to be 18 to post here.
Embarrassing redditor retard.
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>austrian flag
Mutts on VPNs
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>>532867152
>Russia literally wanted to join NATO in the late 90's
yeah no shit, they jokingly tried to join an alliance that was designed to protect against them. yeah why were the nato countries so stupid and evil not to accept that? it would have ended nato on the spot and leave the euros without a defensive alliance against russia. the nato members would have been idiotic to let a trojan horse into the alliance. they already have enough problems with turkey and hungary being defacto rogue members that may turn traitor any minute.
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Upon further inspection its just one austrian flag here being a VPN mutt
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>>532867809
NATO is dead right now. It is so fucked that one NATO countries threatens to invade another NATO country while 15% of NATO is muslim.
What ended NATO was the Ukraine war. How ironic.
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>>532867113
I agree on the first part, but then you threw together a lot of things.

Greece never fulfilled the conditions to join the EU, they only got in on the condition they industrialise to a certain degree over the next years. How, doesn't matter, but back then most saw milk and olive industry as the two obvious key sectors. Well that never happened, we just let them tuck along like Hungary now, even though the entitled baby behaviour. That's why when the debt crisis finally hammered down on Greece, Brussels hammered down even harder, people just had enough of Greece's shenanigans.
On the other hand Germany and the Netherlands didn't mind Greece weighing down the euro at all. Meant cheaper prices for their exports on the global market. The big loser was actually just france and to a certain degree the united kingdom.

>>532867523
>cuckservatives love the EU
>cuckservatives love Ursula
You're making the mistake of thinking cuckservatives care, or really think for that matter. Ursula was literally the least liked person inside the Merkel cabinet in her own party. That's where the "promoted away" part comes from. And cuckservatives liking EU? Downright delusional. The party just did an excellent job of distancing themselves from EU publicly even though they travelled down there and voted for the shit they complained about when coming home. The original beginning of AFD was literally boomers with more than 4 brain cells left calling out this behaviour.

>>532867623
At best you're a different camp.
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>>532867574
Most of our economy doesn't depend on the euro, it's domestic exchanges.
And we're not in the Eurozone.
And a lot of borrowing is also done on the internal market, like if a company needs credit they just take it in RONs. Why would they take Euro credit? It would be more expensive for them. Unless they are exporters and they need to hedge for exchange rate and own both.

But then since we still have our currency, there's still some monetary leverage.

On the whole, though, the bigger forces at play are competitiveness, cost of doing business and labour markets. And Europe has raised all these labour and environmental standards to the point that for a lot of big players it makes no sense to manufacture here. Due to high cost of labour, legal standards and cost of energy.

While India, Vietnam, China are more than happy to take all that market share.
But if everyone was outside the EU, some European economies would be completely wiped out. For example Greece. Heck even France would get wrecked if it lost its EU status that keeps its foodstuffs protected.

Again the big factor is compettiiveness not EU or currency. And that has to do with how much willing people are to work hard and accept low pay and use certain technologies.
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>>532867752
>Not a single boomer likes Von der Leyen.
total bullshit. they may not like her, but not to the point where they didnt vote for her party with her in the top spot. we had an EU election 2 years ago. the germans and austrian overwhelmingly voted for her party, so what are you saying its not true. the election is proof you are wrong.
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>>532867152
>Russia literally wanted to join NATO in the late 90's. Westoid cucks refused
When did they apply? You know you have to actually apply, not just say you "wanted" 30 years later?
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>>532867656
No it wouldn't be. Without EU Spain and Italy would spend nothing on defence or defend anyone to their north against external enemies, i.e they would be doing what they do now.
Iceland and Norway never joined the EU and they're just as weak comparatively speaking as any EU country. The European malaise comes from the Europeans themselves and can't be cured.
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>>532867937
I don't know even one single boomer who likes Von der Leyen.
Not a single one. And i am surrouned by boomers everywhere.

If you think that people exist who like that whore, you are obviously a VPN retard or straight up lying for some unknown puprose.
Lying doesn't help you.
You are telling people that the sky is pink, while everybody can look out of their window to confirm that you are wrong.
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>>532867978
Without the EU, France alone would be stronger than the whole fucking EU is nowadays combined.
Same with Germany, same with the UK, if they would have never been part of it.

In the 80s, the few Western European countries had 33% of the world wide economy.
Today, the much much larger EU with an much much larger population and land, has 15%.

The EU made Europe so weak, it is ridiculous. In all metrics it is losing. From economy to military.
EVERYTHING was better before the EU became this imperialist globohomo monster.
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>>532865587

Good goy, forget your national identity and sovereignty, you must become a formless mutt blob, accept federalism, my fellow goyim!
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>>532867683
We weren't doing anything wrong. No one wants to invade Russia, it'd be retarded to think otherwise, all I care is they stick to their own borders as we stick to our own.
Wanting Ukraine out of the EU or NATO is pure jealousy and USSR nostalgia, only inside retarded vatnik heads it's realistic that they'd expand further east.
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>>532868068
>EVERYTHING was better before the EU became this imperialist globohomo monster
the one thing they were very successful at was brainwashing zoomer niggercattle with muh free travel though, just check this (or any other) thread where someone dares to criticize the EU
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>>532867937
I just checked Von der Leyens approval rating.
Such stats don't even exist, because they dont take them.
And the ones who took are always astrocias.
Like one institute took approval numbers in France and the result was an 18% approval rating.

18% is the lowest approval rating of any political leader world wide.
No population anywhere hates their government as much as Europeans hate the EU leadership.
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>>532867937
>Because i vote the party means i have to love every single politician in it
That's some downright jewish bullshit.
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>>532867975
>It is in our great interest, for the sake of the safety of the entire continent, to have you as a member, but sadly you did not submit an proper application so we politely decline and will continue to try to encircle you together with our American masters
And you Bulgarian cucks are one of the most corrupt nations in Europe. With that level of corruption, no nation would get accepted into the Union. The only reason why they let you is to push its borders out to the black sea so you got a nice package NATO and EU membership deal.
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>>532867904
what ended nato was trump and euros being too complacent when it came to russia and being too weak. its year 4 of russias war on europe and we are still asleep, doing almost nothing and being still basically defenseless. no nukes, no icbms, no stealth bombers... just waiting to get rolled over. when i look at europe, its weakness disgusts me.
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why lie?
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Also in
>>532867574
I forgot :
The whole "2012 Euro Crisis" was literally a manufactured psyop by (((Transnational capital))) Who saw the threat of the Euro and sent their agents fuck shit up. There was literally no reason for borrowig to be 3x more expensive for european countries in 2012 than in 2008. Quite the opposite actually. But hey guess who LENDS the EURO that central governments where trying to BORROW through the issuance of bonds ??

Guess who?

Other central banks, and International Banks. Guess who controls (((international banks)))? THere is not 12310 of them. You can count them on your hands. Their CEO all know eachother and they visit the wall in Jerusalem every now and then. Most of them are in the Epstein files too.

You have to think about those things. Use your neurons :
> Why does your goverment needs permission from some dudes in New York to borrow money to build a highway in Bucarest ?
Use your braincells. Think about why there is a EURO in the first place and how it came to be. Think about why there is even bond markets for Government spending. Ask yourself these questions and you will get it.
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>>532868121
Who is asking you to forget your national identity, you moron?
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>>532864001
>led into a completely pointless suicidal conflict with Russia
You're mistaken. Russia started the pointless conflict. They invaded Europe in 2014. Pic related is unmarked Russian forces in Crimea in early 2014, a week before the so-called "referendum" on the status of Crimea took place.
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>>532864001
>This was the most successful Anglo-Jewish operation by far.
Brussels is doing it to itself
>led into a completely pointless suicidal conflict with Russia.
Kys ivan
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>>532868201
There was nothing to "decline", you Russian cocksucker.
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>>532868068
EU is the consequence of European weakness, not the cause.
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>>532868068
Nah, on the contrary. The EU bent over backwards to protect French and German interests. All trade agreements were geared in that direction. Why do you think they rushed to close that deal with Mercosur? Because German carmakers are desperate for new markets as they're losing market share globally but also in China.

All EU economies would be weaker outside the EU. EU protectionism shielded them from having to compete on an equal basis with Asian economies. And they're still trying to block as much Asian stuff as possible, but consumers speak with their wallets. They even hiked taxes on chinkshit bought off Aliexpress etc and consumers still buy.
Now imagine if they had no EU. Their businesses would get absolutely trashed by normies buying chinkshit in droves.
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>>532865587
>you don't get it, it's better when the Big Chink has to buy several figureheads in Brussels rather than the ruling party AND the opposition in every country, unity makes us stronger!111 (+1 WEF bug credit for post)
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Also you have to take into account that most trade inside the EU happens between EU members.
So no tariffs benefits everyone.
If they had no EU, they would tariff each other into the ground.
And then they'd all get tsunami'd by cheaper chinkshit bought off Aliexpress and Shein and whatever.
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>>532868484
True. It's worth adding that Based Nippon's share of global GDP has taken a brutal hit in the last 35 years and the reasons are similar (normie risk-aversion most of all) even if they are no part of any union.
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>>532868551
>let's split into 3000 city states, that way it would be harder for the chinks to corrupt our politicians!
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>>532868616
why do you hate so much the idea of a sovereign country, klaus? Show me on the doll where it touched you.
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>>532864001
Russia cant take 10% of a country on its border being handed shit, all those loses and munitions spend and thats all its achieved, the war has lasted nearly as long as the entirety of WW2, and look at the results. I dont think they would survive a war with a bunch of first world countries where the front line would be even bigger let alone that they would have full use of the arsenals that Ukraine is asking for permission to use. Russia isnt scary anymore anon.

At this point it probably needs to happen, Russia keeps fucking around with peoples shit (including the US, I dont know why people there are simping for them like they havent been fucking with the US for decades now and will just be friends if they werent at war) and can just be broken down and rebuilt as something more sentient going forward, rather than a perpetual enemy, so just let EU off the leash America, turns out the thing you were there to protect them from wasnt really that big of a threat, so let them go handle it and just sit it out, or go invade the middle east or something.
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>>532865587
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>>532868551
The first Bulgarian is right. Europe is stronger together. Trump and his colleagues have said recently that they don't like the EU. That's because they want European countries to be weaker. It's more difficult for them to economically coerce the big bloc that is the EU.
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>>532864001
>Anglo-Jewish
I don't see any benefit for the British, they're drowning on their own. Nor do I see benefit for America, Europe's decline hasn't led to a single tangible benefit for the American populace. No the only people benefiting from the EU and Europe's managed declined are the (((usual suspects))).
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>>532868409

Are you serious? They are literally engineering the Euromutt meme before our very eyes, shunning everyone who's even 1% more patriotic than a sellout libtard, convincing everything that everyone that your own country made is automatically bad and evil, but somehow nobody is trying to erase you, Chud, you are being schizophrenic!
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>>532868464
Euro is the cause of European weakness and EU is the consequence. If anything the EU counterbalances the structural weaknesses created by the Euro

If europeans where smart they would either
> Create a European Treasury. Federalize fiscal policy
> Abolish the ECB. Give back control of currency to democratically elected institutions. Accept that the EU is just a free trade agreement.
We all know their head is too far up their asses to do either. So they will stay weak and on the sidelines. And everyone else will get richer. especially non-euro European countries.

Literally the biggest source of immigration in non-Euro countries, even before mudslims, is economic refugees fleeing the Eurozone. Spaniards, Germans, French, Portugese DREAM about having a life in Switzerland. And we are a country with zero natural resources and no access to the sea. top fucking kek.
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>>532868737
>Europe is stronger together
This is so incredibly obvious that anything against this can be positively ignored as retarded propaganda.
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>>532868672
Each of our countries is about as small as one Amerilard state. I love my country as I love the countries neighboring mine but if we weren't helping each other strategically and militarily we'd be utterly fucked in the face of adversity.
>just give them Crimea bro
>just give them Donbass bro (you are here)
>just give them Donetsk bro
yea no. I say we stick together and make them eat shit until they go home.
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>>532868484
>All EU economies would be weaker outside the EU. EU protectionism shielded them from having to compete on an equal basis with Asian economies.
Brussels makes sure that there will be no competition for the Big Chink.
All regulations since 2016 have led to the point where it's impossible to manufacture anything in Europe at competitive price.
As for today, Europe can't function without Chinese import. It's the reason why so many European countries act like BRICStards after attack on Iran. The Big Chink holds the leash.
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Europe, man I love this old battle hardend continent.
Like old sobbing Putin back then about Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bgMl3NQwS4
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>>532868816
You ARE a schizo, yes.
Who the fuck is forbidding you anything Bulgarian in Bulgaria, you idiot?
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>>532868737
The greatest trick the Jew has pulled in the 20th and 21st century is conflating Europe with the European Union. The European Union is a misnomer, it does not serve Europe and it is not a Union, its a framework of vassalage to Tel Aviv. Yes the Jews hate the idea of European nations pulling together and getting their shit together, but the EU is not a pathway to doing so. The EU has so much toxicity baked into it's DNA that it cannot be reformed, it needs to be totally scrapped and entirely new framework for cooperation drawn up.
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>>532868684
>Russia isnt scary anymore
I am bombarded daily about how we need to tax everyone more and buy more muttcrap weapons to prevent le hecin' russian invasion in two more weeks or else we are doomed by EU owned media, you really have to choose a single message to push and cool it with the doublethink
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>>532868296
>France 21%
kek
>not a single leader above 50% in his own fucking country
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>>532868013
and its not even that EU election voters got surprised with van der leyen. she was the evp-main candidate and at the time of the election head been head of the EU commission for 4 years already. so people basically endorsed her.
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>>532868865
>We must have EU because Putin
Oh yeah, the EU and its invicible force of electrical tactical bombers and zero emission tanks.
The same EU that destroyed its industry with energy prices and green regulations and opened legs for Putin after Obama's reset.
WEF makes you retarded.
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>>532868832
>Give back control of currency to democratically elected institutions

And that would result in Greeks and Italians voting parties to give them free shit, more holidays, more unionised rights, higher minimum wage etc.
And no fiscal limits, they would keep borrowing beyond 300% debt in GDP to infinity. Which is what these countries tend to do anything but the EU is a bit of a brake on that.

Maybe you're right but not in the way you think. But that the EU was a pacifier, it gave all these states a shield, a protection. And if they didn't have it, their 'collapse' would be accelerated and they would hit that wall faster and had to become poorer to learn how to be competitive again. But since the EU protects them they still enjoy this illusion that they're highly developed and have high incomes because they're so special. When left alone to compete with Asia they would fall apart quickly. They couldn't match populations 5-10 times larger that are willing to work for peanuts in hard conditions and low environmental standards. Nobody can match that.

So yeah if you're a bad enough dude, go it alone and face that world alone. Get destroyed. That will teach you how to be competitive again.
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>>532868863
Being vassals of mulattos together and sucking mutilated mutt cock while some globohomo leaders, who everybody hates, rule you from abroad isn't """together""" in any shape or form that i approve of.
If we all jump out of a window, we are all in this together.

Also a fucking Romanian gypsie isn't the same thing as i am.
I don't see even one single reason why i would want to merge together with gypsies, baltoids, fingols, polacks and all other weird ethnicities.
>the gypsie lives on the European continent, so he is the exact same thing as you are!
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>>532868267
>no nukes
(Thank god) France and UK still have some. And at least we have some talks now about an european umbrella or at least getting some for germany.
>icbms, stealth bombers
Sign me the fuck up.
>drones, missiles
Actually we're doing (thankfully) great in those. Especially Finland when it comes to drone shit. Their drone shield fab containers are now sitting in UAE. Unfortunately it was all over before we could see it properly in action.
At least here, defence is fairly promising again and probably one of the only sectors right now where young people are given a chance to change something. Also a lot of people finally watching closer at Airbus' shenanigans, but that's a different story.

>>532868404
>>532868974
If you reply to me, at least make an argument. No, repeating yourself isn't an argument.
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>>532864001
Sure mutt. Sure. Keep collecting the Ls.
What is one more in a collection of masive fuck ups.
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>>532868863
Perhaps true. Of course there are open questions about how Europe should cooperate. But it's clear that certain countries in the world (particularly Russia and currently the US too) really want to divide Europe.
>>532868929
You're a yank. You want to divide Europe because you don't want a big competitor. You want lots of smaller competitors who you can push around.
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>>532869062
Hitler was right about the gyppo problem.
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>>532868737

Europe is stronger together, but the gay melting pot proto-federation known as the EUSSR just ain't it. I am all for strong European countries, I am all for cooperation and trade deals. I don't want to suddenly turn my back on Germany or Italy or whatever and say "you are dead to us, we'll do just fine without you". The goal is to have distinct nation states, that cooperate with each other. Different currencies, different laws, different rulers and etc. in the context of Europe each nation should be it's own distinct thing, in the global context we should be readily available to unify against external threats. Think of it as one shared European community - high trust society where each nation lives the way they feel is best for their culture, but we also help each other in time of need because we are allied to each other.
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>As for today, Europe can't function without Chinese import.
Eurozone cant. We are in the middle of Europe. Supposedly the most ""expensive"" place. Yet manufacturing is 30% of our GDP. Meanwhile France next door pays their wagies a third of what we do and still cant produce anything of value to export. Top kek. Again. If you use your brain and analyse facts you will come to the conclusion that its not Europe, the EU, Brussels, or Von Der Layen. Its the ECB and its monopoly on currency called the Euro. Its literally a scam to transfer wealth from the middle class to transnational corporations. You need to bring back credit into the hands of Europeans if you want the European economy to work. This is why countries that control their currencies are winning and those who don't are cesspool slave goys.
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>>532868974
>she was the EVP main candidate
yet i didn't see even one since ÖVP politican telling me to vote for his party during the EU parliamentary elections, because Von der Leyen is so great.

Somehow all the individual EVP members do their utter best to hide their involvements with Ursula.
>Vote for us, because we have the best candidate, Ursula Von der Leyen!
said noone ever

Imagine going into an election and you have to deny and hide who leads you.
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>>532869147
You are wrong on many counts.
Think before you post, I'm getting second hand embarrassment
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>>532869178
He thought Slavs were subhuman.
At worst he thought we were some sort of inferior Aryans.
But he had no major problem with us, that's why we were allies.
He did want to exterminate you though
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>>532868684
>At this point it probably needs to happen
Here’s a reality kick for you, though you people are so hysteric and propagandized it’s probably useless: Russians have 6000 nuclear warheads.
EU collectively has like 500 (not all of them are operational, and UK has only submarines, and French have subs and air launched missiles).

Russians have around 1700 nuclear warheads on standby, ready to fire in a matter of hours (some in as little as 30 minutes).

There simply is no way EU alone manages to overpower Russia in any full-on escalation scenario. The gulf in capability is so vast Russians could survive EU response. EU cannot survive Russian attack.

Outside of realm of schizophrenic quips like “their nukes don’t work” (which is ironic since UK failed two nuclear launch tests recently), that is.

This is a suicidal conflict because there’s simply no way EU comes out on top. The goal was always regime change in Russia in response to political and economic pressure. That failed spectacularly, and now the clock is ticking and Ukrainians will simply run out of resources (including manpower) even if war progresses in linear fashion.

EU made the first move here by intruding on Ukraine. Now they have to retreat and deescalate, and seek means to cope with changing global landscape.

Going forward on current course at best invites economic and social disaster, and at worst suicide I outlined above.
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>And that would result in Greeks and Italians voting parties to give them free shit,
Counter argument:
Italy and greece have been around for millenia and they never "bOrrOwEd 400% oF dEbT tO gDp RaTio". They were fine in 1745 they were fine in 1900. They are not fine with the Euro.

Use your brain. Borrowing is the engine of capitalism. If you have no control over borrowing, you have no control over investment. If you have no control over investment, you have no control over growth, and your future. If you have no control over your future you are the dictionary's definition of a SLAVE.

(and your master is probably some kike CEO sitting in his office in New York at Goldman Sachs)
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>>532868958
Anon look with your own eyes instead of just being told whats happening. Look how long this war has lasted(almost as long as WW2 for fuck sake) and look how much Russia has gained in that time for how much losses and munitions they have spend on it. Do you think Russia would be able to go on a conquest of all of EU and the UK together in its current state?
>multiple angles of attack that stretch Russias resources even thinner by making more front lines, including now from the sea.
>armies with a sizeable airforce at that
>fresh troops and full ammo coming in vs the tired and spent
>armies are more advance/actually appeared on the military index before this war, if theyre being rodablocked by cave men being handed their stuff how do they expect to invade and conquer first world nations
>Ukraine wasnt full mobilized when Russia did a blitz and even still Russia didnt get that far

Its fear mongering, everyone should prepare and buy more shit so they can do better at war when war happens, but they are not exactly unarmed without an even bigger stockpile, small army does not mean no army, EU and UK forces combined are bigger than Russia, even without America involved, especially now.
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>>532869147
>You have to automatically be aligned with your idiotic government because I say so!
By that same logic you crave paki dick and want to become a colder, shittier, version of the Indian subcontinent. See how retarded that notion is?

If anything I've accepted that balkanization of America is not only inevitable but desirable at this point, America cannot be salvaged. Europe might be able to get it's shit together in time, might. But vainly holding onto the EU, an artifice designed from the ground up to service the Jews and built with Jewish ideology baked into the framework, is not the way forward.
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>The EU started declining when Asia started rising.

The EU started declining when Dublin was founded by Bantus.
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Europe caused all of these problems we are having. The Jews have a promised land already its called California and everybody loved them.

Its a good thing that Europe has the same influence as Latin America for global events.
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>>532869504
>Look how long this war has lasted
This is a limited conflict with certain rules in place which aren’t openly spoken about, but which exist. It’s a proxy conflict.
Trump regime changed everything, USA is no longer interested in trying to regime change Russia and following Iran disaster they’ll simply lack the means to project power everywhere, they’ll have to choose, and Europe is not a rational choice from geopolitical standpoint if you have to cut your losses.

That leaves EU. And EU is dead within hours of any confrontation you imagine. Russia is superior in conventional sense too. British Army isn’t Ukrainian Army. You completely lack any real experience and you completely lack the manpower and hardware to engage in a protracted conflict.

Ukrainian Army is 120+ brigades strong, battle-hardened force. UK could maybe deploy 3 brigades in Eastern Europe for a few weeks.
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>>532869504
Not only this. but Russia isn't going to get any stronger. They have solved none of their crippling systemic problems and have no intention of doing so. Russia is going to remain ludicrously corrupt as long as Putin remains in office and their demographic situation is going to continue to deteriorate as Putin continues to show favoritism to Asiatic minorities. The Russian leadership has all to various degrees, swallowed the Duginist poison of racial Eurasianism, and condemned Russia to slow death.
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>>532869040
Just cause EU needs reformed it doesn't mean EU needs destroyed. Edgy whataboutism like yours won't change my mind about it
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>>532869688
>isn't going to get any stronger
Let’s assume that’s true, how exactly will EU get stronger with far graver issues and now cut-off from any cheap energy sources?
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>The British Army lack any real experience

Well thanks for your opinion.
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>>532869717
Yeah but they will never do these reforms. That leaves you with two options :
> Abolish it. Reflect on why it failed.
> Do nothing and become weaker and weaker until you become the slaves of someone else.
The EU has a built in immunity to self reform. It was purposedly built in a way that makes reforming it impossible. Why ? because it was built by the French , around the French model. And french institutions are built to break. Not bend. This is why they have revolutions every 50 years and they are at their 5th republic.

So, sorry anon if my money is on the "destroyed" side not on the "reformed" side.
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Fuck euros give me back my francs
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>>532869882
That’s not an opinion that’s an objective fact. British Army hasn’t engaged in a real conflict since Korea.
You’re either delusional or horrifically out of your depth when it comes to these topics. British Army is a third-rate force in modern terms, hampered by decades of budget cuts, retarded political decisions, cultural degeneration and lack of any real experience.

Whole UK is basically a corpse stitched to City of London.

You’re completely misjudging Russian limited approach for weakness. Their approach is limited cause they prevail by it. They simply won’t waste more resources pursuing their geopolitical goals than they need to. This is sustainable for them.
For EU and UK, it’s simply not. And I outlined perfectly clear what any sort of escalation will look like if it ever occurs.

Since there’s no path to victory here, this is a completely pointless conflict. 50-60000 dead Russians per year mean literally nothing for Russia as a state in geopolitical terms. Any “damage” you inflict is temporary.
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>>532870044
kek
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>>532867656
>The EU alltogether, all those countries with over 400 million people, are weaker nowadays than individual European countries were 40 years ago.
That is simply not true. At all. What are you smoking?
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>>532864355
and here come the federalist cuck to tell you that the current EU with its scarcity economics and disdain for personal freedom is the perfect form of governance and if you don't want it for yourself you can only be Russian
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>>532869466
>Russians have 6000 nuclear warheads. EU collectively has like 500 (not all of them are operational, and UK has only submarines, and French have subs and air launched missiles).
Assuming that only Russias stuff works and is effective or can reach the entirety of EU/UK unabated, given what weve seen. If the goal is to glass everything yes, that would be suicide, for both, thats why Russia wont do shit too and they will never do that, they arent in a position where they can just press the win button.

Again, Russia is not stupid, if it starts firing nukes at EU/UK the result would be that they fire back, and since Russia centralizes all its resources and intelligence to specific areas it makes them fat targets, you dont need to level Russia to sink it, where the EU/UK dont have this problem because their territories and goals stretch far and wide. Nuke London? England isnt going to fall apart. Nuke Moscow however...they may well just stop right there, because the only people asking for war is the people there why do you think Russia would persist when theyre gone. See the reason they developed so many was exactly because these places wont just fall apart if you hit certain places, that is the strength of the west. Multiple heads with multiple necks.
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>>532869839
The European Union isn't, the EU bureaucracy answers to Tel Aviv and their marching orders are keep Europe down. The nations that make up Europe get stronger by scrapping the EU, adopting a new framework for cooperation, and buying as much time as possible and fixing their demographic and economic problems. The Ukraine conflict cost Russia quite a lot in terms of money and manpower, if Russia was strong enough to sweep Europe they'd have curbstomped Ukraine by now. But they haven't, they've pulled back and let the conflict chill but not quite freeze into a low intensity conflict. The obvious takeaway is that Russia needs to recuperate and the signs don't point to them rapidly regaining their strength. Europe has some breathing room and some time to unfuck themselves before bananaman decides it's time for Ukraine 2 zigger boogaloo. The question is just how much of that time will they squander.
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>>532870130
>British Army hasn’t engaged in a real conflict since Korea.
I take it you had an American education?

Seriously, I just thought you were misinformed . . .now I realised you are completely deluded.

Enough.
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>EU made the first move here by intruding on Ukraine.
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>>532864001
France and Germany started the EU with the European Coal and Steel Community.
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Basically, EU is “competitive” playing second fiddle to American geopolitical drives.
On your own, EU is nothing. It lacks even the basic parity with Russians in terms of military capabilities, and I won’t even mention Chinese.
There’s three paths here:
>continue the confrontation with Russia, alone, lose, perhaps even invite complete catastrophe
>repair the rift in relations with USA by accepting complete subservience on the level of being glorified Puerto Rico
>end the confrontation with Russia and China and restructure to be competitive in changing global landscape

Anything else is pure fantasy and hysteric myopia.
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>>532870321
What a load of bullshit. But I guess even shills need to cope.
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>>532867648
Bringing back Italian colonialismo is right, no, it's not just right, it's an holy cause. And you are a faggot.
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>>532869684
>British army lack any real experience
I love seeing it when people have no idea that there are multiple wars going on they dont know about. Ukraine didnt have experience of "real war" prior to this war either dumbass lol, look how thats going for Russia.
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>>532870231
Which real conflict did British Army fight since Korea? Falklands? Being 3% of force deployed to fight Iraq in 1991?
Instead of being a smug idiot stay out of topics in which you completely lack any knowledge besides entry-level facts.
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>>532870321
Delusional russhit. Russia is weaker than the weakest EU country. You are literally an insignificant insect. The only reason Europe has not curbstomped you yet is because we do not act like niggers, unlike you.
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>>532870345
I can't wait to see how shills will react on the day of russia's collapse. What kind of cope will they sperg out. Probably something like it was all part of the plan. Hopefully we will fins out before the year is over.
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>>532870368
>Ukraine didn’t have experience
They had since 2014 and they learned on the fly building on that experience in this stage of the conflict.
Ukraine prior to war had the largest army in Europe after Russia and they were obviously the focal point of NATO support.

Equation changes when talking about higher level of confrontation.
>>532870361
Okay, so what’s your idea?
You’ll occupy Russia and pillage its resources?
How do you imagine doing that?
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>>532870404
Burma
Oman
Multiple conflicts in Africa
Bosnia
Iraq
Afgahnistan
and yes, the falklands.

You haven't a clue what you are talking about kid.
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>>532870219
>the EU bureaucracy answers to Tel Aviv and their marching orders are keep Europe down

Yeah that's why most Euro states told the US to fuck off when you tried to drag us into your war for Israel. Because the EU is so controlled by the Jews, that we refused to get into your war for the jews.
And it's rich that you're telling us that, when you're the biggest tool for the jews.
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>Thinking Europeans are open to change
Brother this is why we did not join the EU. Their proposition was :
> Open the borders. But no border force
> Give away currency control, but no treasury
> You will have to abolish direct democracy. "pEoPlE cAnT bE TrUsTeD wItH iMpOrTaNt pOliCieS" (
José Manuel Barroso own words).
Fast forward 20 years and switzerland GDP tripled. We still vote every 3 months about """important policies that are too complex for public vote""". We still have 3% unemployment. We still earn 3x more than the French and German wagies. We still have 30% of our GDP in manufacturing. Everyone in the Eurozone is trying to flee to our country.
KEK
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Considering the rare good things the EU does (mostly consumer rights stuff) absolutely does NOT compensate for it mandating migrantshit, anti-industry shit, anti-energy shit and sending billions € worth of our meager military toward israel 2.0, yes.
Yes pretty much every single country in the EU would get much stronger by leaving it and executing any bloodline that support the judeoropean union. Even the countries that are "net receiver" in the budget, as that doesn't include the billions lost due to the imported negros/bicots/jeets.

Also reminder to every other euros in the thread:
Get your own fucking nukes.
Not because I don't like you, but because Whitekind having a single head make it way too fucking easy for kikes to concentrate their efforts. We have been infested by angry kikes since that prank with the Talmud during the middle age, last thing we need is us being the single and complete key to Europa.
>b-but the non-proliferation treaties
Anything signed by a shabbo doesn't engage Whites.
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>>532870321
Or
>Cut America out and take down Russia for good, now that they are in a weakened state we can finally remove their forever leader instead of persisting with a perpetual enemy on our doorstep till they hopefully elect someone better when he dies. Create Europa empire where Russia is an ally instead of an enemy forever and no longer have to appeal to American interests
I like that one more. We use to be good friends with Russia, we can be again, but not by just letting a retard start wars knowing noone will ever do anything about it because they have to play nice. Theyre counting on our civility to let them do barbarism, so thats why people consider Russia the way they do, they can change, but they wont if this keeps on the way it is.
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>>532870321
>It lacks even the basic parity with Russians in terms of military capabilities

What Russian capabilities? Vatniks on donkeys? Have you been watching the human meat waves they're sending every day in Ukraine? They're getting rekt by drones made by housewives in Ukraine.
And somehow the EU lacks parity with that lmao. Delulu
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>>532870611
Ah yes the bloody near-peer conflict in Bosnia, that was a real test for the mighty British Army.
As I said:
>Instead of being a smug idiot stay out of topics in which you completely lack any knowledge besides entry-level facts.

Though I don’t blame you, you aren’t any dumber than your own politicians, people who formally rule you.
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>>532870753
eurocuck politicians fully reflect the retarded faggot population, that's the real redpill, not the
>muh joooooos, muh anglos
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>>532870726
>take down Russia for good
Did you even read what I wrote?
You completely lack nuclear deterrent in practical terms.
Do you even understand what I’m saying, is comprehending your own language an issue for you?

Russia has more than three times nuclear warheads ready to go now than you have in your entire stockpile.

How exactly do you “take down” Russia?
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>>532870864
>Russia has more than three times nuclear warheads ready to go now than you have in your entire stockpile
EU experts said those don't work so they don't work, that's how the average eurocuck thinks, hence the nukerinos are a non-issue in their mind when talking about dealing with russia
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>>532870753
You clueless little twat.
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>>532870734
They’re getting rekt yet somehow every corpse exchange for the past year and half was something like 1000 Ukrainian corpses for 30-40 Russians. Gotcha.

The cope was “it’s cause Russians are advancing” but now that cope is dead since latest exchange happened after Ukrainians staged some local counterattacks and even recovered some ground. It was 1000-43 if you’re interested.
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>>532870668
>Spineless shabbos goy got cold feet when asked to make even more sacrifices for the good of Israel, shocker!
The cucks in charge of the EU are already feeling the crunch from the Ukraine conflict and have already sacrificed a nice big meaty chunk of the Kraut economy to Israel for the sake of Jewish interests in Ukraine. They're dragging their feet because their bottom line is at risk and because for the moment they can get away with it. But at the end of the day (((international finance))) still downs their sorry asses.
>And it's rich that you're telling us that, when you're the biggest tool for the jews.
>You must embody your government at all times because reasons!
Grow up.
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>>532871000
The British Army has no experience.

Like I said, you are a clueless fuckwit and you have no Idea what you are talking about.
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>>532864001
Europe has a vast array of specialized industries and trillions in capital. It's the richest continent on earth and everybody wants a piece of the pie you retarded montenigger.
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>>532870966
Absolutely none of those are actual wars. Do you understand what “near peer full-scale conflict” means?
Murdering cripples in Afghanistan in an effort to sustain opium production is not the same as fighting an actual war like the one in Ukraine.
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>>532871004
And it's not like if informations were difficult to find.
Fucking wiki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Jewish_Parliament
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vadim_Rabinovich
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>>532871057
>of specialized industries
Name 5 that are competitive with China.
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>>532864355
>you are vpn fram ruZzia
Always the same accusation from you LGBT bbc-lover EU shills. Kys.
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>>532870695
>"pEoPlE cAnT bE TrUsTeD wItH iMpOrTaNt pOliCieS" (
lol austrians decided in a referendum to trash a fully built ready to use nuclear power plant because nuclear energy = bad and also regularly decide in local referendums against new power plants even though we have sky high electricity prices. at the same time we import 1000 gigawatthours of electricity from the czech nuclear power plant dukovany every year. people also always vote for higher pensions and more gibs at every election no matter how dire the financial situation of the country is.
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>>532870696
They are just too fucking chauvinistic to see that their precious EU, while a good idea in 1996, is completely shit and making their lives worse.
They could literally abolish the bullshit that is the ECB, abolish the 12319 treaties. Create a European Mint, A european treasury and a European Central Bank subservient to the treasury, staff the entirety of that with 400 employees. Then sign a free trade agreement and a European Defance high command treaty, financed by the European treasury, with the ability to "Federalize" units (just like the US pre-ww2). And all their issues would be solved.

Instead they have 80000 employees focused on writing 1000 pages of legislation in 27 languages focused on how the meat from Germany needs to be packaged so that it doesn't hurt the frogs in nicaragua.

>>532871004
The problem of the EU is that its a good idea. On paper. Everyone agrees wiht that. Once you start talking about the execution of the idea...
> YoU cAnT CrITisIZe tHe eU ! yOu aReE A NAzI!
They literally use the same tactics as the Israelis. No joke I tried explaining to a Frenchman why the EU is shit and why Switzerland is not part of it and this is what you hear. They are litteral cattle goy. kek
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>>532871232
I’m absolutely pro-Russian but I’m discussing in a factual manner.
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>at the same time we import 1000 gigawatthours of electricity from the czech nuclear power plant dukovany every year
and you also protest and block the roads whenever we try to expand / modernize said plant
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>>532871203
agriculture
high tech machining
chip design + manufacturing
pharmaceuticals/medical equipment
heavy machinery
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>>532870864
Which part of "russia is weak and insignificant" did you not understand?
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>>532871350
ok, please tell the EU to stop shilling for raising my taxes to counter it then
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>>532871327
>chip manufacturing*
Just this and only when talking about EUVL.
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>>532870987
You're buying too much into Soviet propaganda, anon.
Russians simply pick up more corpses precisely for this reason, so they can 'demonstrate' that the ratio if deaths is much larger for Ukrops.
While Ukrops just don't bother collecting dead Ruskies as much, they're probably eaten by pigs and dogs anyway.
Do you really think less Russians are dying when they're attacking? Ever heard of the defender's advantage? Urkops have fewer troops now, they can't even properly defend, they rely on technology more to stall Russia's advance. And they're investing more in crippling Russia's infrastructure with drones. Because there's fewer of them to simply fight that WW1 trench warfare.
So Russians must be collecting dead Ukrops like it's gold, just to demonstrate how skewed the death rate is.

The thing is that you or anyone else has no idea how is this statistically significant. It's not like there's a guaranteed rate of collection. Different conditions for each side could lead to different rates of corpse collection.

It's just not logical that more Ukrops would die when the ones pushing in are Russian troops and they have to face artillery fire and drones. While Ukrops just sit back and defend. You can't get those rates when defending.
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>>532864001
Uh oh, some brown retard is once again seething about European superiority
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>>532865077
at least some of you get it
a bunch of coping eurocucks here. asleep at the wheel as usual. you blame everyone else for misleading you but where does your agency begin? buncha drugged out commie losers
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>>532864001
It's obvious that this will not end well.
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>>532871327
Don't forget airplanes. Chinks are at least 20 years behind.
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anti yuro memeflag threads are nothing but emberassed migatard kikes
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>>532871379
It’s a mentally ill Albanian I just ignore him.
Many of these “English” or “Italians” or “French” here are just cuckholes or Poles or such shit who emigrated there.
Talking to them is complete waste of time. You can recognise them by being unable to write anything that’s not a single sentence insult or ridicule using “vatnik”, “zigger”, “lakhta” and similar terms.
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>>532870517
Right, so before 2014...And again "large" does not mean "better" theres a reason theyre asking everyone else for their gear and training. Everywhere else specialized in smaller groups with higher training and more adanced technology, than lots of guys with guns.
>Ukraine fighters were trained by British forces after the war broke out
Like, theres a whole army of these waiting to the side as a profession, and this is versus
>Russia fighters started taking people out of prison and giving them guns
Great.

>>532870864
Dont be one of those people that insists everyone surrender to whoever shows up with more power than you.
>they could use nukes, its over guys, dont bother fighting
Nigger we have nukes too, both sides know this. Nuclear deterent is "i can hit you hard where you hurt" that does not mean you need 2 million nukes, it means you have targets in mind and a nuke for each. Russia has centralized commands and infrastructure, it is a major weakness compared to the west, "taking down" russia is simply breaking the fragile command and will, not levelling the entire breadth of the landmass, noone will use nukes because thats not necessary to win. Heres how a war will go
>both sides know they have nukes
>fighting continues on Russias borders, making Russia expend even more resources for a war thats gaining nothing
>EU/UK does not cut a bloody swathe to Moscow, they just fight at the border,s Russia would make itself a pariah to the world if it nuked under these conditions, and knowing that the other side has nukes too
>fighting continues on Russias border till they are spent and want to end it WILLINGLY as they cant continue, and then we talk about getting rid of Putler and making Russia stand upright instead of acting like niggers constantly meddling in everyones affairs, and bring them under administration so they dont become niggers again
Thats "bringing russia down", not driving tanks to Moscow. Russia could be friends again.
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>>532871391
You are clueless. Touch some grass and go get a job you NEET.
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>>532864001
>France was a respected
Why are mus stupid, retarded and faggots?
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>>532871267
>lol austrians decided in a referendum to trash a fully built ready to use nuclear power plant
Yeah switzerland did the same thing but guess what. We vote every 3 months. So when the prices started increasing, we voted again. And now we are keeping the nukes. We are even making them better. And building more hydro. (Something that was a taboo because "muh enviroment!" for 50 years until the vote last year)

Turns out People are allowed to change their opinion. Hard concept to grasp for you guys, I know. This is why you don't vote once every 4 years. You vote once every quarter. Retards. Just because 55% of the dudes alive voted for something in 2012 doesn't mean its the word of God for the next 300 years. Crazy. I know.
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>>532871379
Can you tell your russian relatives there to stop pretending you are relevant and surrender already? Russia's collapse is inevitable. The longer they try to hold on the harder it will be.
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>>532871465
it's actually hilarious here
>hahaha trump is a retard orange man, americans are retard peasant compared to EVROPEANS, russia is weak we can defeat it ourselves if we want lol
>*Trump threatens to remove mutt soldiers from EU countries*
>NOOOO SAAAAAR SAAAAAR DO NOT DO THE NEEDFUL WE NEED THEM HERE OR RUSSIA WILL ATTACK US AIEEEEE
literal doublethink faggot continent
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>>532871417
Nah I’m just not buying in EUSSR propaganda bro.
There are no “human waves”. Both sides almost exclusively fight small scale battles, rarely involving more than a platoon, in a dispersed manner.
Fantastic losses aren’t happening. But more hohols die, it’s obvious. Their mobilisation tactics and first-hand accounts confirm that.
I rely on what they say, not what NAFO troons invent on the internet. I actually follow this war.
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>>532865551
EU was setup to keep europe weak.
Its plan by americans and jews.
European identity could have been created if german and french zog pupets didnt import niggers and arabs on mass on mass scale.
Sentiment is now gone.
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>>532871492
Yup. It's crazy how hard Airbus even mogs Boeing.
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>>532871500
I don't know, as a longtime WoW player I find most eurocucks are the same way as the fags in this thread honestly
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>>532864001

Giscardbros, not like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKhnDzRgsW8
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>>532871505
>we have nukes
Russians can survive this nuclear exchange and even recover.
You cannot.
>we can be friends
Yes but being friends means you not trying to murder Russians on Russian soil in cities founded by Russia.
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>>532871642
imagine playing that gay jewish game and calling others eurocucks, just shut up and go worship kosher californian trannies making mediocre bing bing wahoo slop
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>>532871642
They are certainly delusional but not as mentally handicapped as butthurt belters.
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>>532871274
>a European Defance high command treaty, financed by the European treasury, with the ability to "Federalize" units
>BRO JUST LET ME STEAL YOUR ARMY IT'S EUROPEAN NOW NOT YOURS
All eurofaggots are red communist dogs and they should be treated as such.
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>>532871609
Think of it this way: Ukrops are defending and Russians are advancing.
Ukrops fire artillery and drones and Russians die in areas that Ukrops don't control. Who would send men in those area to pick up the corpses and risk being made a corpse himself? No point, so most Russian dead are left in Russia-controlled areas.
Whereas, as Russians advance, they run into Ukrops corpses in the areas they conquer. That's why they recover more corpses, because their own dead die in areas they already control.
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>>532871624
>EU was setup to keep europe weak
Euro, not EU.
EU was actually a good thing making europe stronger for the 40 years it existed before the Euro.
See >>532866370 >>532866681 >>532867574
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>>532871761
And the russian body recovery rate is extremely low since they would have to pay the families of KIA soldiers. That is why the vast majority of them are listed as missing instead. Their entire armed forces are corrupt to the core.
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>>532871717
>imagine playing that gay jewish game and calling others eurocucks
I'm cool enough to not have to just imagine that
>just shut up and go worship kosher californian trannies making mediocre bing bing wahoo slop
even trannified california mexican-nigger mutts make more culturaly relevant stuff than eurocucks, it's very sad
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>>532871761
Your explanation is logical except in the past two months it was Ukrainians who were advancing.

Thing is, Russians are superior. They fight better, they are better trained.
Ukrainians compensate by clever tactics and burning through their manpower.
That’s how this war works.
“Defending” and “attacking” mean less when we’re talking about very empty battlefield with platoons holding 10 km of the front.

Russians have more and better means to deploy firepower where needed. And they can hit beyond the front more easily. Hence higher Ukrainian casualties.

I’m of course not arguing it’s 20:1 in Russian favour. More like 2 or 3:1.
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>>532870321
>complete subservience on the level of being glorified Puerto Rico
It wont be enough for mutts once you go puerto rico they will demand you drop to haiti level.
>end the confrontation with Russia and China and restructure to be competitive in changing global landscape

There is no conflict with china. Conflict with russia will end once cia stops controling EU. In germany that will happen never.
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>>532871883
youre embarrassing this flag, stupid goy
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>>532871572
people here would still vote against nuclear if asked right now. its taboo to even talk about it. not even new hydro power plants at the danube are possible, not even new power lines are possible because every village along the way will hold referendums that will all go against it and block it for 20-30 years.
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>>532864001
https://youtube.com/shorts/z_VmbOEQTcw
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>>532871849
>>532871761
that's not how this works whatsoever
the ukrainians if they had any bodies for exchanges would most definitely hand them over to embarrass russia
they don't which means either russian losses are low or the ukrainians aren't successfully counterattacking like they're claiming
also ukraine is infamous for it's amount of MIA not russia, which in fact recently reclassified large amount of their MIA into KIA leading to western media thinking that the ukrainians suddenly killed a lot of russians within the span of a month
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>>532871986
>Conflict with russia will end once the Putin regime collapses
Fixed that for you.
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>>532872107
>ukraine is infamous for it's amount of MIA not russia
That's complete bollocks for a start.

Russia avoids the term KIA . . .. because they don't have to pay war-widows.

Who are you trying to fool?
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>>532872107
have you ever carried a human? they are heavy as fuck and unlike a barbell, not easy and ergonomic to grip. and i guess in a warzone often booby trapped. the ukies would be idiots to spend time and manpower to go around in no mans land and drag corpses along, they would get attacked by drones immediately, the russians wouldnt sleep on such an opportunity.
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>>532871327
>heavy machinery
>pharmaceuticals/medical equipment
>chip design + manufacturing
Running on intermediate goods made by chinks
>agriculture
About to be crippled by mercosur
>high tech machining
The only relevant position on the list, only because of the inertia in the sector.
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>>532864001
It's the globohomos who rules us who decided it. They are obeying to their american democrat overlords.

We can change Europe if the globohomos in power are taken down.
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>>532872241
ukrainians supposedly reclaimed hundreds of sq km recently and the frontline should be far enough that drone shouldn't be an issue
russians do it frequently and they don't seem to have issues
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>>532871674
Yes we can lol, again, wests strength is that it isnt centralized power, Russias weakness is centralized power, if Moscow was nuked, do you think Russia would keep fighting or just call for peace as the only people pushing this pointless war is Putins cabal. We do not become friends by letting Putin meddle in foreign affairs unabated, do people forget that Russia does shit besides this war to undermine them? They have been a problem for decades now doing this, their leadership needs to change and stop treating everyone as a mark, and its not going to happen if it sees that it can even go to full fledged war and noone does anything lol.
>Russians on Russian soil in cities founded by Russia.
Oh is that what this is? Finland next? So we should go to war now while Russia is weakened because they actually do intend to rebuild an empire? Reminder that Rome use to be bigger than it is today, the countries today do not want to be part of it and have fought to do so, Ukraine is doing the same, Russia wanting it doesnt entitle them to it any more than if Britian declare Ireland belongs to them because it did historically and starts an invasion.
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>>532872304
Real life is not a video game.
>the countries today do not want to be part of it
Well part of “Ukraine” did want it and they just tried to murder them. Russians don’t like seeing Russians murdered. What’s the issue here?
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>>532872233
Kek, is that what BBC news told you, Ahmed?
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>>532871729
Nigger federalization means your units stay cohesive and keep their leaders. The leader gets federalized and get a temporary rank in the federation. Google how it worked in the US pre-ww2. They just receive orders and permission to cross country lines by vote of congress. Its actually a good system if you DONT want your army to be replaced by ZOG. That is why the US got rid of it in 1948 after ZOG took over their institutions.
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>>532872160
Sadly thats not gonna happen. Putin is just gonna keep killing slavs and replacing them with muslims under chabad leadership.
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>>532872370
Maybe they should stop the war if they dont like it. Why is it on everyone else to do what Russia wants.
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>>532872241
and how would they even store the corpses? you need large refrigerators that consume tons of electricity. not something the ukies have in abundance.
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>>532871591
its so funny how much they hate each other. they're arguing over who picks up dead blown up bodies better
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>>532872402
I guess you are not really from Luxembourg . . .have some gits and tell me which country you are REALLY from?
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>>532864001
Sadl but true. Never forget the Polish betrayal either. Can't trust the niggers of Europe.
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>>532872370
>Russians don’t like seeing Russians murdered. What’s the issue here?

Unless its chechens doing the killing. Then its ok. Jewish oligarch can also kill you with no problem in russia.
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>>532870696
If the EU didn't make stupid rules for you, you would do so yourselves, you need only look at the UK.
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>>532872491
Kek, I already proved this to you BBC lovers yesterday.
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>>532872447
The US in not Europe. Different politics, different people, different everything. Communists seem to be always complete retards in this aspect, unable to comprehend that a solution X kinda working in place Y will work everywhere, because every region in the world is the same.
I think it's a matter of upbringing. You saw your mother doing the same thing over and over again with a big number of strangers.
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>>532872599
Oh so you are Russian.

You know I am right with the KIA payment though . . .don't you?
Russia prefers MIA so they don't have to pay the widows.

I don't watch the BBC but nice try.
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>>532872003
That is what you think because you dont vote that often so you get your estimations about public opinion from your (((media))). Turns out the (((media))) pushing these suicidal laws was full of shit and paying 400 every month for electricity has a way of changing everyones mind pretty quickly. Then the (((media))) prints shitty articles like "But the people voted wrong". Just ignore the noise. Media articles about what people think do not replace voting. Just fight to go vote again you'll see. Dont believe the jewish shilling: People don't want more taxes. And people don't want to pay more for electricity. Its true in my country. Its true in yours. its true everywhere.
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>>532866370
>But their real mistake was creating a Jewish controlled currency let by a ZOG central bank with literally zero political and national oversight. Who the fuck thought this was going to """bring prosperity""" ?? The fact that europeans are ok with having some vaguely semi private, non-elected ECB institution lording them around economically is insane to me.
Ok thats true but the same type of central bank is in place in US china and basically everywhere besides iran and north korea.
The most powerful central bank of central banks is actualy in switzerland. Probably ran by jews. Bank of international settlments.
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>>532872465
They're not going to let you put nukes and Nato troups at their border after we promised not to. The US got their colour revolution, cut off Europe from ressources and their arms sales.
For Europe the Ukraine war was the beginning of a long slow descend.
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>>532866370
>said fuck off to the Jews like Switzerland
This has to be satire.
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>>532872746
Why do you fags constantly accuse people of being Russian? You must be a paki. I even proved that I’m not Russian. So where did you get your fake information from, GB news? Clown
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>>532872870
>powerful
>BiS
Explain. Without schizo memes.
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>>532872708
Yeah and Western Europe is not Eastern Europe. If you think we will become communists because of some laws that removes ZOG power from financial institutions and give a democratic mandate to local armies to enforce the borders of the union you are retarded. Stop with the red scarce. No one votes communist. No one likes commies except 14 years olds in the west. Literally the only reason commies are leading the EU is because the EU is not democratic. Its just a bunch of german cocksuckers that bend to ZOG in charge. If the EU was actually democratic and had a Senate (1 country = 1 seat), and direct democracy. I guarantee you this bullshit would be over in 4 weeks.
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I wish I lived in europe, america and other colonies such as australia are breddy much south africa tier, white people are a persecuted minority. Bear in mind that in america half the white people are mystery meat mutts so the number of actual true whites is probably like 25%, and even that is disproportionately boombooms who are off their tits watching FOX news and NFL. The rural regions are still somewhat homogeneous english/germanic people because they haven't attracted migrants for centuries. But they are very outnumbered. It is simply insane. Now whats fucked up about this is 90% of people who want to move to europe are actual turboleftists who want more socialism, gay rights, less police shootings etc. I think they are subconsciously racists underneath all the politically correct rationales, since they only ever want to move to northern europe.
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>>532867574
>Literally a Franc CFA situation. At the European level. And Europeans are ok about it. like the good slaves they are. kek.
Well no one is ok with it. Anyone who depends on fractional reserve banking is a slave by definition.
>>532868391
Its a stupud system but it might chrash now. Once US military gets destroyed in iran US will no longer be able to force international finance on the world.
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>>532872746
holy fuck that's some cope
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>>532865446
saaaaaar
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>>532864001
As the anglos went down with it and the jews openly opposed it at every turn this is a classic case of "We dindu!".
The EU:
"Arrogant idiots: The white (wo)man edition"
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>>532864001
But muh environment
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>>532873043
The file name of your picrel says 'Russian citizen' and also your whole argument seems to deny Russians admitting the KIA.

You kind of bring it on yourself and calling me paki and Achmed when your muslim demographics are the same as ours is a bit stupid . . . .don't you think?
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>>532864001
>relevance
who gives a shit just leave us alone
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>>532873054
Nothing schitzo about it its a place where all leaders of central banks meet and coordinate prices etc. When your exchange rate drops your loans become more expensive. When it rises its oposite. They determine that. You can just google it its not hidden.
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>>532868201
>Can apply for a thing
>Don't apply for a thing
>Don't have a thing
>WAAH I'M BEING OPPRESSED
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>>532864001
>a completely pointless suicidal conflict with Russia
more like existential conflit, but okay pidor
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>>532873272
The file name is an obvious joke, idiot. And yes, I deny your “argument” because it’s just the usual drivel from your state TV and Ukroid telegram channels.
We have nowhere near the same amount of browns or muslims here, and the small amount of muslims that we do have are mostly from southeast Europe. Enjoy your Pakis, Indians and Africans, dickhead.
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>>532869481
>Borrowing is the engine of capitalism

Nope. It's highly anti-capitalistic, when government does it.

Think about it for just a damn minute. A government can't spend more than what it can tax... i.e. 100% tax is a hard limit. A 100% tax is the absence of capitalism (slavery)

So how does government spend MORE than what they tax? With debt. It creates debt in your name... To spend your money, WITHOUT consulting you.

>but I did vote for them so that's kind of consulting me

Not with DEBT!! Debt is taxes for people who haven't voted yet
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>>532873103
In europe salaries suck and land and housing is extremly expensive. Germany and france import fucking arabs that ruin the high trust society they once had.
In US you cab at least move to some shithole and not be bothered by anyone.
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>>532873404
I know what BiS is. The schizos of /pol/ do not. You completely failed to explain why they are supposedly "powerful". Can you give one specific example where they have used their powers to give orders to national banks for example?
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>>532872870
> Central Bank meme
Central banks are a club true. But not all of them are independant. They dont have to be.
US central bank is not. Its subservient to the US Treasury (its "independant" on paper). But in the US ZOG also controls the treasury so its irrelevant. China central bank is independant. So are others. They still play by the ZOG rules due to petrodollar but, in this context independent = they are loyal to their country. Not some Rabbi in New York. BIS is Globohomo not ZOG. They bend the knee to ZOG. Check their leadership. Internationalists and globalists. But the distinction doesn't matter in this context. What maters is this :
The ECB has no oversight. No congress to report to. The ECB emits Euro. Set monetary policy. There is no Euro Fiscal policy. What does that mean ? It means they built a system where they created an institution to allow funneling capital to where they specifically want capital to be in Europe. But there is no counterbalancing system to take the capital from that place and redistribute and invest it around as needed by Macro trends. What does that tell you about the system they built and who it is built for ?

And of course the banks that are actually doing the Euro lending to Euro governments are all controlled by the same people. Because everyone knows "ThE CeNtRaL baNkS ShOulDnT lEnD mOnEy dIreCtLy tO gOvErNmEnTs OkaY? HyPeRiNflAtiON oKaY? GeRmAnY 1924 OkAy?". So OF COURSE we need NY-based jews as the middlemen to decide how capital is allocated in the Eurozone.

Once you really start questioning why the things are built the way they are you really unravel how much of it is just plain bullshit and that a lot of the "financial rules" that we operate under are just made up shit they put in your head in 3rd grade so that the jews in charge of banks in Europe can make more money doing nothing of value.
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>>532868296
>Macron
>That high in France
That's how I know your stats are bullshit made by boomers to feel good about themselves.
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>>532873672
The problem with moving to Billyboing Idaho is that within 20 years it will be swamped with mexicans. There are literally 150 million+ non europeans roaming freely around this landscape. Everywhere they go they set up a parallel society which grows and eventually replaces the preexisting white society. Even random small towns in the countryside have their nonwhite gangsters. Not because the government put them there like it does in Europe, but because the social dynamics mean that wherever there is a "walkable environment", some hood nigger will show up and make it his fiefdom.
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>>532868832
>Literally the biggest source of immigration in non-Euro countries, even before mudslims, is economic refugees fleeing the Eurozone. Spaniards, Germans, French, Portugese DREAM about having a life in Switzerland. And we are a country with zero natural resources and no access to the sea. top fucking kek

Thats because you have direct democracy while rest of europe is tyranical bureaucracy with pro forma input from poeple.
Poeple in rest of europe are so brainwashed as in we should trust experts. And when I say why is switzerland so much better than fucking germany they claim swiss are superhuman,they stole jewish money or some other bulshit. Been to switzerland other than knowing more languages on average the swiss are nothing special. Its the system that works. Your old poeple are anoying though. My guess is if you will die in 10 years your vote should weigh less.
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>>532864001
What you say is only partly true.
In the 80s (and 90s to some extent) the Soviet Union was a match to the US which was much less "expansionist" and "out there". In Europe the EU was 12 countries of which France was the dominant one. Germany was cut in half and only Britain was half out the EU, not taking it serious.
Slavs were barred from entering Western Europe unless as prostitutes for a few days.
Paris and London were still white cities (+85% white).
Brazil was even more a shit hole and more poor than it is now.
China made Brazil rich and not a shit hole by comparison.
Only Japan was better than it was, India ... nobody ever thought of India as anything but a bunch of savages.

The world was very different in the 80s and 90s, but already there France was a decayed power unanimously recognised to be inferior to Britain and with an economy smaller than Italy.
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>>532869091
>sucking mutilated mutt cock
The US wants to divide and conquer Europe though. They hate the idea of Europe working together, because Europe together can push back against the US. They would rather that Europe be splintered so they can easily control each country.
>>532869179
>different laws
EU countries do have the ability to pass their own laws. So do US states actually, if we're going to compare the EU to a federal entity. But the EU does make some laws that apply to all EU nations because this is good for trade. Imagine if a Bulgarian business wanted to sell its goods to other EU countries, but every EU country had different legal requirements. That Bulgarian business would have to adapt its product multiple times, for lots of different countries and their laws. It's easier and cheaper though if that Bulgarian business only has to build their product to comply with one set of law, EU law, in order to sell to Europeans.
>>532869223
Not an argument.
>>532869507
>vainly holding onto the EU, an artifice designed from the ground up to service the Jews and built with Jewish ideology baked into the framework, is not the way forward.
I don't think that's true at all. Look at how the US is giving tons of aid to Israel. The EU isn't. EU countries like Ireland and Spain are particularly critical of Israel. Personally I believe in religious freedom and not discriminating against people on the basis of their ethnicity or religion. The idea that the EU is "designed" to "service the Jews" is ridiculous though.
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>>532873888
>the social dynamics mean that wherever there is a "walkable environment", some hood nigger will show up and make it his fiefdom
The social environment is that y'all are cucks who will never do shit.
Yes, they will try it in the suburbs and will fuck your daughters while they're doing it.
You still won't do shit.
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>>532865446
GB is not part of EU!!!

And you are not going back!
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>>532873612
> A government can't spend more than what it can tax... i.e. 100% tax is a hard limit.
I understand where you come from but a Government can absolutely borrow more than it can tax

None of that shit matters when it comes to Fiat currency. Argentina isnt fucked because it borrowed more than what they tax. Argentina is fucked because they helped Nazis escape in 1945 and the Jews in charge of Banks and Globohomo decided they will destroy your country to punish you. There is no reason for argentina to borrow at a rate 3x higher than Bulgaria. The only reason is the 10 international banks that have the kind of bucks to do the lending are lead by CEOs that all go pray to the Mount Wall in Jerusalem every now and then. And they hate you. Sorry your country is fucked and it will be fucked for as long as the petrodollar exists. It is what it is.

The only thing that will change that is if a Jew comes to power in Argentina and gives half the riches to some Israelis for them to take over and enslave you. Then maybe youll have a "stable currency" (low interest rates) again.
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>>532873888
How can a nigger stay alive in a small town where everyone knows each other.
Only thing you need is cops to play dumb or not be present.
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>>532868484
Lol
Lmao
Free market is a jewish meme.

Get out of the EU.
Control with a magnifying glass what enters in your country, meanwhile try to be as restrictive as you can while being as self sufficient as you can.

That's unironically the once fabled Asiatic tigres all industrialised.
Perhaps we don't need to be tourism centres and have half of our population in the service sector (or three quarters, more realistically).
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>>532873888
>>532874212
Some russian that lived in US explained that niggers are used to limit places where you can live so you have to work 60 hours a week min in US so your kid can go to a white school and not be attacked.
If this is the case goverment will prevent you from solving the nigger problem.
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>>532870180
It is true anon.
Which were more sovereign?
Which had a larger share of the world economy?

Open your fucking eyess!
Why is Switzerland not in the EU?
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>>532874212
The suburbs are specifically designed so that they are inaccessible to anyone who doesn't have hundreds of thousands of dollars. Which just means they are full of H1Bs instead of niggers. Also kids who grow up there are fully autistic and tend to become extremely leftist imbeciles, since they have no exposure to real society. Suburbs are a bad solution to the larger problem. I predict suburbs will become mainstream in europe as well as an attempt to evade the nonwhites. It is normal here for suburbs to destroy public transportation connecting them to urban areas "in order to keep crime away."
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>>532871505
>Russia has centralized commands and infrastructure, it is a major weakness compared to the west

What a fucking retarded moron that you are.
You live in la la land and have no connection to reality itself.
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>>532864001
It is what you get when you let Uneducated Greedy Fascist Families return back to power!

They are literally retarded like Trump!!!

You fucking need at leas people like Musk in power Not fucking brain dead Von Leyen Murderous TV clown Zelenski or retarded Trump !
Selfish bottom stupid people without vision can bring to you only War And destruction!!!
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>>532874676
Do you think Russia would continue fighting without Putin/Kremlin, with their ports now blocked.
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>>532868484
>EU
>Protecting French interests
lol. lmao even. What a fucking retard
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>>532872107
>they don't which means either russian losses are low or the ukrainians aren't successfully counterattacking like they're claiming

It's the latter. Thing is they might make some small breakthroughs here and there but overall, Russia is still advancing. Which means whatever Russians they are killing, their corpses are outside the areas they control, so they couldn't pick those up and exchange them. So in terms of corpse collection, Ukrainians can only be at a disadvantage. It's the reverse side of the defender's advantage, but since they're not so successful at defending, they can't go out and collect corpses much.

But even logically such a skewed rate couldn't be possible. Simply because statistically there are much fewer Ukrainian troops. So if such a rate was true throughout the war, then there would be no Ukrainian army now and Russians would just walk and take over. That's not happening either.
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>>532874511
EU is the world's largest economy, Ivan. When are you moving back to russia?
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>>532874826
Of course they would.
How would you even take out Putin and block their ports?
It is you who are vulnerable and weak, not Russia.
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>>532874939
I am not Russian.
I remember when 15 EU countries were economic equals to the US.
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>>532873770
Well the loans being expensive for euro post 2008 as you stated. They do "recomendations" that are amost always followed. They operate in secrecy and they are also outside swiss law. I dont know what they do in meetings since its not disclosed.

You say you know what it is. Can you explain your vision.
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>>532873819
>Once you really start questioning why the things are built the way they are you really unravel how much of it is just plain bullshit and that a lot of the "financial rules" that we operate under are just made up shit they put in your head in 3rd grade so that the jews in charge of banks in Europe can make more money doing nothing of value.

Well that is true. If you ask me central banks shouldnt exist at all. Main purpose of media and education is to make you not question the system. Make you belive current system is like gravity something that just exists.
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The greatest danger to Europe is the current rulers of Europe (of the last decades). Filled to the brim with midwits, traitors and sociopaths. Whats the point of defending against Russia? To kidnap your children and send them to death again the Russian meat grinder so they can be replaced by immigrants?

This is a genocide of the white race, executed by the jewish tribe, no less. If you dont defend a people, and you don't defend a country, and you don't defend a culture, not's vanishing valuies, what do you defend? What do you die for? The wealth of rich jewish pedophiles?

The ruling elites ARE the traitors, not those who refuse to die for the traitors. They have to all submit or die, preferably in a long, excruciating fashion. They ruined our lives, and now we should die for them? It is them that should die to make our lives better. They owe to us : that would be justice.

As they say the greatest threat to "their democracy", isn't global warming, evil, world war, AI, or depletion of resources. The greatest threat to their democracy, is kind men who want justice and liberty. Too much to ask for these demons. They must and will have hell in this life and the next. The stubborn who think they're god do not end well. Soros forgot that. It's one thing to have an equation formula correctly, but watch out on being mistaken on the variables. The weak should fear the strong and the meek shall inherit the earth.
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>complete geopolitical and soon economic irrelevance

Italy alone has the same GDP as Russia
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>>532873134
> a stupud system but it might chrash now. Once US military gets destroyed in iran US will no longer be able to force international finance on the world.
ZOG is a parasite. The US is the host. Once the host dies the parasite will just move to another host(s). Think of it like stargate and the Goa'uld.
And the EU is 100% infected at every level. US losing in Iran isn't going to change that. The only thing that can is europeans.
There is a reason why putin used the "We will cleanse Ukraine of Nazi elements" casus belli. He can still borrow money from international banks to finance his war... That is not a funny coincidence.
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>>532875525
>The greatest danger to Europe is the current rulers of Europe (of the last decades).

Those rulers are not there by chance. Those rulers are there because they have been put there by their masters: The Far left of the US of A.
And who controls this clique?
Well jews, obviously.

So...
And it's only going to get worse, anon...
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>>532874939
that hasnt been true since 2020. The US overtook the EU both nominal and PPP.
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The problem isnt united eu but how they handled current things

>green deal
>illegal immigrants
>gender propaganda

Orban Viktor doesnt wants to make EU great again and he was always right
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>>532875915
I meant Orban wants to make eu great again with Patriots. Europe is weak because our leaders made us weak.
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>>532867152
>you need to keep pushing more and more towards their borders
Explain something to me, milosh. if that was the case, why didnt putin say so from the beginning? why did he never once mentioned this, but instead assured us Ukraines sovreignity is totally respected?
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>>532875829
Lol
From which international banks is Putin borrowing money?

You dumb fuck. Who do you think you're fooling'?
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>>532866960
oh yeah... we shouldall behave like switzerland: hide money of other countries, feel "neutral" while being surrounded byfriendly country...
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>>532875029
>It is you who are vulnerable and weak, not Russia.
How. Iit cant take a country on its doorstep on one frontline and youre saying it will square up against multiple first world nations where the frontline will stretch the length of Russias border, and now take to sea where there is multiple navys much larger than Russias.

So in your mind Russia is going to block all of EU and the UKs ports, unabated? With what navy, they cant even control their own back yard and you think people are scared of them sending a fleet to engage other fleets? And again, they cant take a country on their border, the frontline would stretch all the way around Russia and spread the thin resources and manpower even thinner. Russia is already spending ammo it doesnt have with soldiers tired of fighting, if noone is telling them to fight and they arent being paid by their central government anymore and told to continue, why would they fight. Theyre not automatons. Im sure they are tired of this shit now too and with the person forcing them to keep going gone why would they keep going. Where if you take out the UK for instance that still leaves all of the EU, you take out Poland and theres still the rest of the EU and their foreign territories etc etc, how do they hope to control all that exactly in the instance where they win a clash. They cant control their own back yard anon, they are not going to wrangle and hold down multiple countries that are not even on their border.

Kremlin/Putin falls and Russia stops fighting, the Russians dont care about this war anymore, its background noise, cut the head of a NATO member, theres still a whole fucking hydra behind it and the neck is still attatched to the body to regrow the head and are entering the war fresh with fervor if ever they do.
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>>532869481
>They were fine in 1745
Most of Europe didn't exist in 1745
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>>532875829
Its still different. Neither putin nor EU can force ZOG on others. They dont have the power to do that. Plus of ZOG leaves US they will flourish and stand as a continental fotress and an example of ZOG free country.
Russia and EU will both be shitholes with no power to force their way.
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>>532876159
The only one that can do anything against Russia in Europe is the US.
Your fantasy of an European alliance against Russia will never materialise.

Britain and France and Germany against Russia would be destroyed. Poland too. It's over.
The Russians have inherited the Northern European Plain.
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>>532870041
> Abolish it. Reflect on why it failed
Should have done that with Germany, frankly.
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>>532875960
Nah sorry bro Orban is Jewish cancer too. Literally his entire reason to exist is suck Putin's dick. Putin is the biggest jew in the East. His entire circle is jews. His oligarchs are jews. His casus belli against Ukrain is "Cleansing the Nazi elements". A Casus Belli that Orban has repeated over and over like a good ZOG agent he is.
EU is Globohomo with 70% ZOG penetration. Hugary is 110% ZOG. That is why Vance, a sitting US president goes there to support his dumb ass. He literally doesnt give a shit about Orban. Probably hates him too. But he got orders from Jew York to go help the cause so there he is in Budapest propping Orban.

You have to apply the same criticism you apply to the EU to Orban anon. Orban is ZOG clown. He exist to accelerate the destruction of Europe
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>>532876009
Raiffeisenbank and UniCredit Bank

CEO of UniCredit can literally raise USD on WallStreet bonds market from his jew friends and then transfer it to Putin as needed.

Of course they dont do it that much because the money doesnt come for "Free" but with strings attached so putin is trying to diversify his financing sources to not give too much power to his Jewish oligarchs.

Next question ?
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>>532875525
Genocide of the white race is good and has unambigious democratic support.
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>>532864001
In my humble opinion, EU leadership and shills should have really gotten the hint when North Korea out delivered the whole EU in artillery shell production. But the EU seemingly needs it's own Iran war to pull them back to earth.
No, your service economies based on Slav and Arab labor won't outlast Russia's resource based economy.
No, your 10k tier one super special operators won't rout a Russian conscript army backed by world's biggest artillery formations.
No, dying for "European *insert buzzword here*" isn't based and inspiring because "European" culture is artificial construct.
And no, most people don't wont to throw themselves at minefields and Temu drones because gay grannies in Brussels what to bring homosex to the rest of unenlightened third and second world shitholes.
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>>532867778
He's right, you know.
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>>532870180
You are a joker to believe otherwise. The nations of Europe used to project vast international power.
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>>532865785
>it's nordicks fault they sold nokia and ericsson and the whole region eventually lost control over media outlets leading to zoomers and younger consuming us propaganda which turned them all into wiggers
yeah japan owns its media stuff
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>>532876326
>The only one that can do anything against Russia in Europe is the US
Cope. They would be helpful but not necessary at this point. I keep saying it because you seem to keep giving static on this fact;

Russia cant take 10% of a country on its border after everything its thrown at it and all the losses its sustained, in a war that has lasted nearly as long as the entirety of WW2, theyve had time, theyve had the resources. HAD, the time, HAD the resources. They failed an invasion. So how are they expected to invade and conquer and hold down all of Europe and the UK who would be coming in fresh, with much bigger and stronger navies, far more air control and fresh armies with full munitions on a frontline that now stretches all around Russia rather than one central location. Nukes? we got nukes. The intention isnt to storm to Moscow. Its to make Russia spread so thin they cant do anything, then they end this willingly. This isnt Crusader Kings, were not going in and painting Russia blue, we want them to stop a fucking pointless war, they tried, they failed, its time to stop and move on from Putin and take Russia in a different direction.

We dont want a war, but we will win it. We want Russia to call it quits on its own, theres been too many lives spent on nothing, if Russia wants to keep this going forever all we have to lose is fucking Ukraine for all of this, a country that wasnt even in NATO, and for it Russia is forever a pariah that noone trusts or wants to deal with. We are not worried about a war if all of NATO is brought to the fight, and we do not want to constantly be at odds with our neighbour.
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>>532876251
They did. In fact they were busy preparing for the first global war around that time. Your country was broke because it sent hundred of thousand of people to die against the french so it stayed neutral. Guess who they owed the money to? War isn't free.
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>>532876322
>Plus of ZOG leaves US they will flourish and stand as a continental fotress and an example of ZOG free country
Not if they turn it into Syria when leaving.
>Russia and EU will both be shitholes with no power to force their way.
Russia the EU AND the US.
They all need to be destroyed because they are the only thing in 2026 standing in the way of Israel conquering the entire middle east and fully ethnically cleansing arabs from the area. China wont do shit.
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>>532868422
>Russia started the pointless conflict
There was the Maidan, a coüp- openly admittred by the UShithole. The Junta then forbade the communist party, the russian language and started killing civilians in Donbass. Russia know what they can expect from the UShithole. Libya, Iraq currently Iran and endless more murder that mercyless killers has to offer. Bootlickers like you pretend it all starts at muuuh the one moment in time the victims start to take measures. Hope you get paid for.
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>>532878355
>the victims
STOP BULLYING RUSSIA :(((((((
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>>532876974
>We dont want a war,
You are the badest liar of all, nobody cares what you and the other ingloassholes vomits. Everybod knows what to expect from the perfiode albion.
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>>532876326
Why is a Portugal flag so aggressively defending a dying decrepit weak former empire? Russia is done for. It will not exist 5 years from now. Everyone knows this.
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>>532878588
go home. dennis.
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>>532878570
I use some words just to givebootlickers some exit to cope from the endless shit they vomitted in your brain. They snap on it like Pawlows dogs.
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>>532877844

(Just like ZOG needed to destroy the UK, France and Germany in 1933 because they were in the way of the creation of Israel.)
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>>532864355
bot tier
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>>532864001
EU is run by unelected jews. EU is a result of US enabling kikes control in the wake of WW2. Starting slow by "just being a trade union goyim HEHEHEHE"
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>>532878588
You speak my language so you can commuinicate with humans that stand upright, that is why noone has to learn yours. Stop appealling to the past for why present evils are justified, you lost, what are you doing about it today besides complaining what foreign countries were doing yesterday.
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>>532878752
STOP
BULLYING
RUSSIA :((((((
IT DINDU
I AM HANS FROM GERMANY
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>>532876787
Taiwan are ethnically Chinks and Occupied Ukraine is ethnically Rus.
Is Romania getting Moldova also a bad thing? You know you want it after all and it would be in your right.
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Porn bad
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>>532879148
I'm hungayrian thoughbeit, and i don't want wars here in any shape way or form. Russian separatists are dumb terrorists.
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>>532867975
Where does this line of
> THEY HAD TO APPLY
come from?
Do people really see international organisations as some bureaucratic offices where you have to fill out and submit form F-67 to get response in 3-5 business days?
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>>532878819
It all points to this.
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>>532880070
how the fuck else are they supposed to join
what kind of mental illness is this.
if you wanna say "russia should be so respected that it doesnt need to apply, it should be invited", then say so so we can then call you a zigger and laugh at your memeflag.
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>>532880229
I'm saying that every international organization is a boy's club. If you see they don't want you, what's the point of applying? USSR tried to apply formally when they were war allies with NATO members not that long ago. Russia expressed interest in joining NATO, but they got a clear message "We'll 'think' about it", so what's the point? Will you consider Russia a good guy today if that had a paper saying "No, we still don't want you".
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>>532880506
>USSR tried to apply formally
>>532880070
>Where does this line of
>> THEY HAD TO APPLY
>come from?

So which one is it. Did they apply or not? Becuase you are literally saying
>They dont NEED to apply
>They showed interest but werent welcomed with open arms
so they wanted special treatment and got denied? or what?
Your argument boils down to
>You dont like Russians and thats why you dont like russians
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>>532880998
USSR applied formally, you can find their application on the NATO website.
Russian Federation expressed interest, didn't apply formally as it was clear that they are not welcome.
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>>532881598
>didn't apply formally
Ok so they didnt apply.
And expected to be asked to join.
Everybody else applied after the founding members.
So they didnt get preferential treatment and are pissed about it.
Thank you.
>it was clear they are not welcome
womenspeak
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>>532881716
Are you that dense or you just pretend to be?
How do I apply to become your friend? What form should I submit? What is the standard processing time?
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>>532882034
>your friend?
So you admit this isnt about formal membership but some fucking feelings like a 8 year old he got pissy his buddy didnt invite him to the birthday party.
Thank you for confirming literally everything I said.
>be nigger
>be angry about sth
>go smash things and kill people
>YOU MADE ME DO THIS BY MAKING ME ANGRY

gj
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>>532882034
>How do I apply to become your friend?
NATO isnt a friendship. Its a military alliance. How tf do you confuse these things



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