I keep seeing all this stuff from Christposters on this board now talking about how, "Based," Gen Z is for becoming Christian.First of all, do something with your life where you're around Gen Z and look into some objective statistics. They're not Generation Zyklon, that's twitter cope bullshit. Once again Reactionaries are hoping for someone else to fix all their problems instead of themselves engaging in revolutionary action. Which, by the way, is why the Right is constantly losing. They have no Will to Power.You're up against people who will commit themselves to body horror unflinchingly in service to their beliefs. What exactly makes you think that you can vote your way out of these problems?Anyway, I was one of the OG Deus Vult-Posters back in the 2010s. They were saying the same things about Millennials. Joseph Ratzinger was declaring the uprising of a new, "traditionalist avant garde," in Catholicism and interest in historic systematic theology, liturgy and lifestyles was soaring.I can tell you that all these people went the way of the Pro-Life Movement: dead and sucked dry by grifters. Almost none of my RadTradCat or OrthoBro friends are still any of these religions, if they are they're just going through the motions because sunk cost fallacy. These Restorationist movements were going on decades before we were born. Spend time with them and you'll realize they don't actually care about the Culture War; it's an act to get converts. What they really are is theology and ceremonial autists; they don't care what's going on as long as they can have their 1955 Good Friday service, Genevan Psalters or four hour debates about the Hypostatic Union.
>>532870347>another batch of christcucks simping for kikes.
>>532870347It was said that you died an orthodox man or lived long enough to see yourself descend to iconoclasm. The whole revert to Christianity thing is a stress response, the instinct to be a void caller, inherent in all sapients. Once a man breaks, he adopts a hardline religion to guide him, to dismiss this life and worship death. It's the intellectual equivalent of becoming a cannibal in a cave with blocked exits
>>532870347>I keep falling for psyops advertised on /pol/When are you going to learn that literally every politician and product advertised here is jewish?
Everything invigorating you find in Christianity isn't really Christianity and it's really from the subverted and stolen elements of Sol Invictus and other Pre-Christian Aryan religions and spirituality. This is the secret to how Christendom was still, "Based." All of that stuff was really older Nordic thought and morals super-imposed over Christianity which was often received because the Old Faiths were subverted at the time. Roman writers were critiquing the irreligiosity and lackluster observance of piety for hundreds of years before Christ was even born.I can even prove it to you from history; many far more orthodox Christians when all the, "Based," stuff was going on were able to use Christian theology to make incredibly cogent arguments against, "Based," behavior in a more sound way than those for this sort of thing could make arguments in favor of it. Bernard of Clairvaux turned against the very Knights Templar he helped create. Bartolome de las Casas doomed South and Middle America to Kalergite Eugenics with his arguments against the enslavement of the conquered indigenous.Do you really think you could just overwrite spiritual and moral inclinations going back millennia in just a few centuries? No, Christianity was in fact a Qabbalistic PsyOp by sorcerers to break down the Aryan. It took two millennias to get us here - of course it did. Again, everything you are seeing in Christianity you think is, "Based," has far more in common with ancient Aryan faiths than anything the Hell else.
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>>532870566That's pretty profound actually. It's Plato's Cave, except instead of either ascending out or just staying put, you snap and start eating all of those who are inside of the cave with you.
>>532870703The truth always prevails is the thing. This is how and why jewish Hollywood tries to make us dislike certain things but accidentally makes something we all intrinsically know is Based. It produces an instinctive response that you can't suppress or deny. Like how Maistre says, every attempt by humans to force something to have meaning that is worthless doesn't ever catch on. Truly transcendental and powerful things just acquire meaning; words that we regard as potent really had banal meanings originally. "Crown," just means, "hat." "Sceptre," is literally, "stick." "Throne," is just, "a chair."
The Abrahamic narcotic is made for apocalypsism.Spring Apocalypsis rethoric and it always surface.To me our reality sprung me away from any Judaic religion.Plebs cant do this.
>>532870347Christianity was the I AM doctrine veiled for the piscean age, a judeo-masonic concoction, specifically Jupiter and the Sun in Pisces. Islam was Venus in Pisces. For the aquarian age the I AM doctrine will be veiled under the guise of AI and other technological creations.Jesus = Je suis = Jeshua = Yah Weh = Jove = Jupiter = Zeus = Deus = I AMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E
What attracts people to Christianity is the redemptionist aspects; the idea that our civilization can be, "redeemed," or, "saved," but it makes a fatal mistake and inculcates something of a slave mentality by placing that salvation in the hands of someone else instead of inspiring you to take action yourself and telling you that, yes, you can rise above yourself and become a god. It is within your power to make a change, it is within your power to stand up.This is why I think of anything we might consider connected to Christianity I think more esoteric groups and Hermeticists and alchemists had it right. The Christ-Narrative is an alchemical act; turning lead into gold, if you will - perfecting human nature by killing the old man and rising up above it.One of the great criticisms Celsus levelled against Christianity which remains true to this day is that it attracts people of low character and capability by comforting them with the notion that it's not their fault really and someone will forgive them. It doesn't encourage them to atone really or do better - it acts like it does, but there's no real stimulus to excel. Again all of those things are ancient Aryan morals, not Christian and Semitic ones. The real decline of our civilization to me seems to start not with the decline of Christianity but the decline of our appreciation for Antiquity. Capeshit took over and our culture become a selection of commodities and consummables instead of an organic set of shared practices, values and beliefs.
I'm sure a major reason why a bunch of zoomers turn to Christianity is because Jews hate Christ more than any single thing in the entire world, and they did absolutely all they could to destroy its legacy and replace it with the most vile stuff you could imagine. This will never happen with pagans because it offers no way of life and you're just internally cringing 24/7 about a larp you don't even believe in. And in these times of aggressive anti-western religions, zoomers feel the need to turn to one.The mistake these zoomers made is adhering to corruptable institutions (especially calvinists ones) instead of sticking to what Christ says. Hitler didn't call him the greatest fighter in the world for nothing.If you're hedonistic and can't believe in Christianity for yourself, you need to believe in it for the people otherwise they turn degenerates if the thing they're worshipping is a mirror.>>532871367Variants of "Je suis" didn't even exist until Old French starting in the 9th century with "Jeo sui." You're reading too much Neville Goddard and Jung. They teach some good stuff but not all of what they say should be taken as gospel, nor put together as if their two teachings complement each other. This is also a reminder that Neville's teacher was Jewish
>>532871814No movement that is built simply upon opposition to something else is ever going to survive; that is the story of not just Right-Wing movements but Communist ones, too. The pure materialist approach to issues never profits anything.>zoomers turn to Christianity because jews hate Christ more than any single thing in the entire worldStop confusing the vast masses of kikes with the ones who are actually in charge. jews have a very hierarchical society internally. They do everything that works and convince you not to do it. All of this is being manipulated by literal black magic.Christianity is not a, "Western," religion. "The West," is a construct of Capitalists that are essentially the biggest shabbos goys on the planet. Blood and Spirit is more important than where you are on the map or happen to live. Christianity, factually, came from Semites. There's no getting around this. It's why even though supercessionism functionally tried to replace judaism it never actually destroyed Jews.Hadrian statistically did more damage to jews than Hitler did even.Also Zoomers, again, are not overwhelmingly becoming Christian and if they adopt a spirituality from a political position>same mistake millennials trads madeyou're not going to get anything out of it nor will it really benefit you and you will be constantly disappointed when you realize the people in charge of these institutions do not give a fiddler's damn about saving Aryans. Just like the churches did in Weimar Germany they aren't rallying or inspiring people to resist in any meaningful way.>otherwise they turn degeneratesThat happened anyway. Christianity failed to stop it's own subversion, assuming it wasn't a Qabbalistic Construct to start with. Zoomers always out themselves, they prove they're newfags constantly. Millennials were marching around Deus Vult'ing at every single Right-Wing Protest. Guess what changed? Nothing. They were hamstrung by their own institutions and the clergy.
>>532870347It's just a phase.
>>532872769That's all the mass conversions of the youth are. It's rebellion and reaction which does not provide a true spiritual center. The mass of society is areligious, so what do young rebels do? Become religious to spite Normies. Most of these people will stop being Christian by the time they are entering the latter half of their 20s if they have the will to think independently.Understand I am not suggesting areligiosity is good. Wherever there is civilization there are altars. To be religious is to be human. This is also why most Zoomers are becoming Catholic or Orthodox; the ritual is something that attracts us, it is intrinsically a human impulse.Even the Bible admits that the kingdom of God is within all men, that men are also gods. A real spirituality comes from within who you are, not from outside imposition.To my mind this is the greatest harm Abrahamism inflicted upon the Aryan mind: it changed his very understanding of religion at a subconscious and metaphysical level. It turned spirituality from something practical into something that you profess.
>>532873228I'm not reading all that, learn to summarize.
bump for a decent effortthreadkeep going burgerlad
>>532873361You argue like a negroid, not a white man.
>>532873552Say nigger.
>>532871367>Jesus = Je suis = Jeshua = Yah Weh = Jove = Jupiter = Zeus = Deus = I AM>this fuckin shill again Yahweh is Saturn. It's not even secret information.
>>532873834Your lord Jeebus.His name is Yahsuah in Hebrew.He is only Yeshua in Aramaic.You failed christkike.
>>532873451Hoping to bump into this anon >>532805968 again. I've been thinking about this stuff for years because I've always had a religious inclination as well as one towards history. If you follow the trail long enough you always end up grappling with these things.For me one of the most important points was discovering Hermeticism in prison. I had the ability to order books from the outside thanks to family and policy at the institution I was at the longest, so I used that time and put things into practice personaly. I kept running into people who gave me more breadcrumbs; most of these people turned out to be schizos and con-men but they were onto something real.When I got out I wanted to get back into church but I found slowly but surely the vulgar religion was destroying me. Believe it or not, it caused me to make tons of mistakes and errors. Not anything criminal or perhaps conventionally immoral but essentially it was draining the vril out of me - I don't know any other way to put it.I highly reccommend checking out the above linked thread before it gets pruned. He drops a lot of stuff in there.If you have a good background in antiquities and theology, all the esotericism stops sounding schizo and starts to make sense. There is something there and it's real but you have to navigate through charlatans and schizoposting bullshit to find the authentic.
>>532873641Only Southerners like me say it right anyway.
Zoomers are cargo culting 'Christianity'. It's a vibe.
>>532874065Cargo culting Hebrew journalism is peak goy status.
>>532873892Ok spam bot. I'm not a Christian nor do I worship the jew god Saturn.
>>532870347...Thr right losing?Mate we just necked Iran and the muslim cope, dismantled the woke and dealt a mortal blow to the migration bullshit, NGOs, globalism and then some.
>>532873946John Wilkes Booth was jewish, he killed Abraham Lincoln so Lincoln couldn't deport the niggers back to Africa. Why would you fight to keep niggers around?
>>532874161>I'm not a ChristianGood. Christkikes get curraled in the circus.
christians are brown, they aren't exactly the smartest tool in the shedin any case, lack of organic living is an unsurmountable obstacle, it lends itself to LARPing accusations not without reasons because community(as the name says, if we let etymology help us) is real, really real, only when it's people who live together and truly share a destiny through mutual interdependence: nothing organic and genuine is going to come out of people alienated in their IRL surroundings who then do things onlinemaybe a small amount of them will commit to moving to a single place and live closeby, that's cool, but it's pissing in the ocean, most remaining christian organizations with numbers and money and organization behind them exist essentially as brands of secular values and mentality, the people in them are virtually almost the same as the average non denominational secular westerner, just lukewarm differences, and none of them is able to move away because they have no strength to do so without destroying their numbersI mean this shouldn't discourage them if they actually look at their very own history, back when christians were few living in catacombs, numbers shouldn't matter, but they do when you have built your entire PR strategy historically on being the face of large empires, it's what draws naive youths to you, they are there because they associate the religion with "da west" in its pompous imperial look
>>532873905all the best versions of christianity disregard the old testament. i think that is a good place to start off trying to educate people. then you can link pointers to the sources of the new testament and how it borrows from greek philosophy and eastern mysticismother than that, the christian calendar is largely inherited from pagan solar festivals, which means swapping out the christ part for something more authentic, like nature and its gods wouldnt change much about the structure of our year
>>532872648Opposition is the story of Talmudism. It had non-oppositional origins in the Torah before Pagan Israelites made it all about themselves and destroying the fourth beast as payback. Jews are brainwashed from a very early age to believe they are victims and to fight back against westeen civilization. "Judaism" if there ever was one before the Talmud wasn't oppositional, just like Christianity wasn't before modern times (though I'd argue that it served as the Katechon but that wasn't intentional). You can be a Christian and vow to fight back for your self-preservation. You shouldn't be looking at modern failed equivalent when the French Revolution entirely rested on opposition as a movement.And yes the pogroms for ones brings benefits for the elite. Christianity got destroyed by forces built on opposition, that have since the Renaissance (or since the Qadiriyya) been working behind closed doors to destroy Christianity. And yes, you're right that it's not a Western one in its origins, and capitalism is a product of Judeo-Calvinism. Still doesn't change the fact that "Western" civilization, starting with Rome, espoused and spread Christianity.And yes Hitler failed at pretty much everything, that's well known.And zoomers aren't just adopting Christianity from a political position, but also a spiritual one. You do not need to be well-versed in politics to feel spiritually lost nowadays, that's the entire subject of Submission by Houellebecq. This deep disgust for what the modern world has become pushing people into arms of traditional religions.And yes, I have a problem with institutions, like I said too.And yes, Christianity got completely subverted after 19th century. What's your point? That 2 centuries or subversions erase 19 centuries?And no shit this Deus Volt larp didn't work when it was a fringe phenomenon with no thought put into actually taking action.Anyways, I'm writing outside on a bench and it's annoying so I'll just read
>>532870347>I keep seeing all this stuff from Christposters on this board now talking about how, "Based," Gen Z is for becoming Christian.They're not becoming Christian though. Christianity is dying in every Western country from what I've seen.
>>532874373>all the best versions >best versionsJfc>of christianity disregard the old testamentNo they don't you fuckin shill. Jesus returned to fulfill the OT. Christians are lying jews. Every single one of you.
>>532874375>Pagan IsraeliteslmaoChristians need to be rounded up and places in cattle cars.
>>532874166>necked IranDelusional. Come back in 2 years when the consequences of this bullshit jewish war causes the inevitable famines and fuel shortages. It's not stoppable now, it's happening. We literally don't have enough fertilizer for the next planting seasons now. If you can't grow your own food or survive such conditions you are actually toast. It will be submit to 15-Minute Prison Cities and eat the bugs and live in the pods or be left outside to starve. If Whites can't rise up and fight back against something we all know is tyranny, they certainly aren't going to collectively fight against that if the choices are that or slow death.>dismantled the wokeZoomers are also overwhelmingly more Queer than any generation before. Top trending searches on PornHub are all for femboys and chicks with dicks. Before that it was women wanting to get raped by their dads. The very sexual vitality of our race has been dealt a mortal wound.>dealt a mortal blow to the migration bullshitNo you didn't. The US is getting ready to grant amnesty to everyone who came in before 2021. Only extreme committed violence by Aryans is going to drive Nons out of our nations and we'd be getting fire from all directions as a result. Thanks to Christianity even the most, "Based," Whites think it is wrong to resist government or commit violence to protect their blood and soil.I'm not advocating you commit violence nor am I Doomering, I'm just telling you the stone cold truth. Every Aryan nations' political structure is captive to jews and jewish ways. You cannot save them without destroying them utterly and thanks to Cold War propaganda Whites see their governmental and economic systems as sacred cows they cannot touch without somehow betraying their own self.Movementarianism is Cope. The truth is always exceptional men, nobility, survive and everyone else just follows them. Ancient Aryan values encourage personal excellence. This mass movement bullshit hasn't worked for a century.
>>532874248We fought to keep niggers in their proper place. You weren't going to deport them all, ever. Jefferson dealt with this problem decades before the slavery debates of Lincoln's day even started. It is the destiny of the Aryan to rule the world and govern the lesser races.Lincoln and the GOP was never going to deport the slaves. If they did, they would never win another election again. I hope Trump has convinced everyone the Republican Party was never good for White people.
>>532874802>We fought to keep niggersYes
>>532874847Lincoln is the reason for the Underground Railroad which caused blacks to flood into Canada.
>>532874930>he's the reason niggers left Based
>>532874960>Niggers staying os actually niggers leaving Jew.
>>532870347I finished reading the bible two days ago. Christ is king. My faith is granite.
they're not lolthey just did it temporarily for (((right wing grifters)))
>>532874983>niggers leaving a country is them actually staying AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Zoomers aren't becoming Christian. Lmao. They're becoming the bastardized trendy equivalent. The ramifications? Blasphemy and brimstone.
>>532870347Ya they all do kinda look like her
>>532875088>niggers spreading across the entire country and becoming freed is actually niggers leaving >fake laughing Jew.
>>532875175>Canada is America
>>532874344You are correct, the atomization caused by Capitalism upon Aryans is absolutely one of the biggest problems and it's why movementarianism was always a lost cause in our time. But this is a good thing because it allows actual patricians to arise and distinguish themselves. Whites have never been a global majority and we don't need to be; we ran the planet when we were only ~30% of the global population.If it's the motivation of Empire people want then Christianity is the last place they should look. Christian theology and morality is the very antithesis of imperialism; I refer you to where earlier in the thread I said how orthodox Christianity became a potent poison against imperialist behavior and attitudes. All this achieved was not a brotherhood of man but subjecting the Aryan to the wiles of spiteful, envious savages.Christianity, much like jewishness, is parasitical in nature. It is weak and latches itself to and ingrains itself into whatever it can live on like a fungus. It has no form of it's own.
>>532875231>niggers didn't also spread across the entire USA as they went north >still claiming they left when they were freed and started multiplying Jew
>>532875344jews killed Lincoln before he could deport all niggers>capitalizing jewlol
>>532874373You are onto something here, yes. But to put on my scriptural scholarship hat for a second you cannot have the New Testament without the Old; the New Testament constantly refers to the Old which marks its relevance. You can't separate Christianity from its Jewish roots.Do you know what one of the most potent realizations I think really is?Whites have more genetically and cultural in common with Amalekites and Philistines than they do with jews. Those men were Aryans and the jews and their god was at war with them. The whole thing, the entire religion, is built on subjugating you - they found a better way to do it than by the sword because if there's one lesson to take away from the Old Testament it's that jews literally cannot compete with the Aryan in the martial arts. They are always crushed in the end; it is only when their trickery is tolerated and not on the watch against that they succeed.
>>532875434>lying and claiming he was going to deport themHe helped traffick them with his own hands. He was a leftist commie. https://www.nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/jenkins.htm
>>532875514>.govAHAHAHAGAGAGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>532874375jews have their own context and culture, though. Even the most secular jew imaginable never dreams of not having his son go through a bar mitzvah or not celebrating hanukkah. Meanwhile for Aryans today even things like Christmas are negotiable. Most White families only keep holidays because they have children and if they do they're just going through the motions. jews actually have an identity they are protecting.Rome never claimed to be, "the West." They claimed to be the very center of the world, which is why jews and Christians tried to supplant it with Jerusalem as the, "Crown of the World."Furthermore, the seeds of Christianity's subversion were planted in the heart of it's very theology. Why do you think no credible theological resistance to Dispensationalism and Christian Zionism has formulated or succeeded? It's very simple: Dispensationalism and Christian Zionism along with judeophilia is the the logical end conclusion of it's entire theology and scriptures.Remember that you are dealing with a cabal of dark sorcerers who's magical system>Qabbalahis rooted entirely in vibrations and the power of words and their meaning. The most strategic friend of Christianity was Gamaliel, an elder Rabbi and known Qabbalist who was Paul's mentor. He had a chance to correct his wayward disciple and didn't take it.Draw your own conclusions.
>>532871367Christianity was the ancient Egyptian tradition passed down through the Essenes, then warped by Pharisees like Saul of Tarsus and raped by Constantine for political purposes.
>>532874396As an institutional force, yes. I also don't think most of these Zoomer converts who are Based are prepared for the inevitable backlash against Christianity which will be seen rightly as the origin of this stupid Boomer Doomsday jew-lover Cult that is dictating our foreign policy. Not even the Crusader Antisemite Bros will be exempt; Hegseth and his dumbass Cross of Jerusalem tattoo has assured that.
>>532875633>nervous dismissive laughter Abraham Lincoln human trafficked criminals with his own hands and hired blacks to help him do it.
Gayest generation of all time. They're going to hell. Wearing a cross ain't gonna save you.
>>532874847In their proper place. Every single Aryan civilization has had a caste system and a slave class. This is just a fucking fact. You could not reverse an economic fact of life in the United States in it's early history that by the time Lincoln was even born had been a fixture on the continent for almost two centuries. It was impossible.But this argument is stupid and neither here nor there. My ancestors tried to stop this and nobody listened and now I have to listen to dumbass kids coming up who swallow literal propaganda about how the CSA was bad.The war and contest has been over. Dixie is lost. All I have left is my honor.You are also derailing the original point of the thread, so stay on topic or go shitpost about your hatred of actually based White men somewhere else.
>>532875026You realize that the Philistines the jews were slaughtering were closer to you blood-wise than jews were, yes?
>>532875955>.govAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA>>532876056>In their proper place.Their proper place is not existing, anything less is niggerloving gay shit.
>>532876198>noooooo White people being turned into slaves by shabbos goy capitalism is way better than enslaving lesser races to do our bitch-work for us so we can focus on the higher arts, crafts and sciencesStop derailing.
>>532876480>it has to be this way if it's not that wayYou lost
>>532876198>nervous dismissive laughterAbraham Lincoln human trafficked criminals with his own hands and hired blacks to help him do it.
>>532876576>.govThe same government that told me to get vaccinated. But this time it's definitely the truth!
>>532876639>The same government that told me to get vaccinatedNo, this information existed long before modern medicine.
>>532876736>the government only recently started lyingOHOHOHOHOHOGOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOHOEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>532876574So did all of America after Emancipation.Good luck.
>>532876791You can have a society without niggers and jews. Stop acting like you can't.
>>532876789This information is such common knowledge the gov can't lie about it. It would be like the gov claiming the civil war didn't happen. They can't lie about something that big, especially back when they lacked modern technology.
>>532877141>they've told the lie for so long that everyone believes it, checkmateK
>>532877141>They can't lie about something that big, especially back when they lacked modern technology.You might be genuinely retarded.
>>532877177Ok so you think the civil war never happened.
>>532877244Ok so you think the civil war never happened.
>>532877259>>532877298>posted twice out of angerCalm down.
>>532876854Certainly could, that's not the one we have. You have to adapt and overcome the obstacles your people face. Sitting around moping about the past and wishing things worked out differently won't help anything. We're probably stuck with niggers on this continent forever. Could be a good thing, always having to defend ourselves against them - assuming we ever organized against them. Again, probably not gonna happen. jews are probably easier to fix, since Black & White Power types can both agree they are a problem.There's a reason the last credible idea to lots of people was the Northwest Territorial Imperative or Northwest Front. Too bad it was a poorly organized dumpster fire of a movement ran by a guy who refused to be in charge because he was afraid of being shot or imprisoned and he was more interested in shitposting about other WP movements and figures than organizing anything.You have to figure out what you are going to do for yourself and those you can realistically protect and want to or who will follow your influence, assuming you can influence anybody.The best /pol/acks always knew the only real path forward was Decentralized Informaton Warfare until the internet was no longer free. The goal is to awaken as many people of value as possible before the lights go out again across the Aryan world so we will have a common set of values and a spiritual center along with ideological cohesion.That was always the only way. People just don't want to hear it because it's not a cathartic form of rebellion. They want to chimp out - except they don't and those who do regret it.Look into the testimony of people who have family members that committed Pro-White acts of domestic terrorism and didn't manage to die in the attempt. It is a fate worse than death.There was always only one way. A lot of us are getting too old to fight in any Boogaloo anyway.I digress. Take the lesson or don't, keep thinking Christianity will somehow help when it never has.
>>532877474>words words wordsNerd
>>532877177>>532877244>replies twice>>532877446>I'm not replying twice ur replying twice!YouAreJewish
>>532870347>Zoomers becoming ChristianThis is not happening in actual data, it's an internet meme for grifting money from culture war retards.
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>>532877750It's okay when I do it.>still capitalizing jewLame
>>532870347I think there was a real chance for a christian resurgance. It wasn't organic, but it was being shilled hard from both ends of the political spectrum. You would see liberal reddit types getting defensive about christianity being blamed for the dark ages and "um akchually"ing anything indigenous to Europe as being from christianity. It was clearly an attempt to undermine White ethnonationalism. And it coincided with the wave of tradlarpers on the right. It seemed like it was gaining some real traction.But I think jews fucked it up. Them going full mask off in their control of the West has made it basically impossible for anyone to try and brand themselves as trad and interested in the well being of White people while also advocating for a religion centered on jews. And the left perceives the israeli's conflicts and the US's willingness to support them as motivated by religious zealotry. So there's been a less fedora tipping revival of militant atheism there.
>>532877841Stay mad niggerlover
Arianism was the only branch of christianity compatible with the gvrmanic mvn.
I don't know why there would still be debate about this Christian revival at this point. Trump just demonstrated where all this is going; slavery to Israel. The point of Christian revivalism, hastily introduced in time with the rise of the so-called "alt right," is to put Whites back on the Judeo-Christian plantation, channeling any pro-White sentiment you might have into a universalist ideology that ultimately centers Semitic myth in everyone's life.If you want to go with Trump, Nick Fuentes, Ben Shapiro and boomer goobers, then yeah, try to revive worship of Jesus. Have a Latin mass or whatever. Wash a migrant's feet.
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>>532877871The entire culture war bullshit was a PsyOp designed to expend our energy and waste time arguing over things that didn't matter so they could tighten the noose without noticing. It's not surprising.
>>532870347You have to divorce your religion from politics. Christianity doesn't have to tools to solve political problems. What endsnup happening is the vast majority of christians become one issue voters over something like abortion then the system inserts a pro life christian and/ or zionist that uses all of their political capital on foreign affairs saying shot like "those who bless israel are blessed by god"
>>532878308>cope.jpg
>>532870347>I keep seeing all this stuff from Christposters on this board now talking about how, "Based," Gen Z is for becoming Christian.They're not. There are some who like the aesthetics and crusade memes. Zoomers are not religious, or even spiritual.
>>532878036even without the zionist angle, I can see this "revival" essentially putting the final nails in the coffin of the racial reality of western lands: i.e maybe you will get a ""based"" front founded on christianity against islam and troon culture but due to demographics it will essentially cement the post racial nature of western lands
The christian shouldnt try to project their faith onto the political process but rather look at politics like war. A means to an end and that end should be to allow your people to create their conditions where they can thrive.
>>532877863>literally inverting what happened Jewish.
>>532873228Nice analysis. Keep it up.
>>532878926>repeating jewish rhetoric>capitalizing jew>calling someone else a jew while capitalizing jew
>>532871814>jews hate a jew and a jewish religion they invented therefore you should like bothNo
>>532874373>all the best versions of christianity disregard the old testamentKekCan you even name a single denomination that disregards the old testament
>>532873228I dont agree with your conclusion. Its not exactly the fault of "Abrahamism" its really more like spiritual decay from decadence. Not that long ago christians had that animating spirit. A purpose and a place in the world. Some splinter factions still carry that spirit only because their sect filters for intentionality. They know who they are and why they are here so they live for a purpose. Its not passive
>>532871814>I'm sure a major reason why a bunch of zoomers turn to Christianity is because Jews hate Christ more than any single thing in the entire world,Common mistake. They hate goyim more than anything else. Its just christians are goyim, so they need to die. Overall jews love how christianity makes goyim think jewish people are priviliged in the eyes of god, that they need a jewish messiah. This by the way why christians here desperately try to prove jews were white. Its their last gambit, when they're too attached to christianity, but know how it serves the jews.
>>532870347like how America didn't care about drones because the war in Ukraine keeps changing until now. Same thing, here. When all the video games are made to make the narratives clear, then you'll see the trends shift the vibe very fast but no point in trying when the current meta will not exist in a month.
>>532878036Yes, exactly this. There's going to be a massive reaction against any Abrahamic religion in the future. When the dust clears it will be jews blamed and then Christians.I can't say what will for sure come up in it's place spiritually, but it will by 100% Anti-Christian.
>>532878476Everything is downstream from theology, even the lack of one is in and of itself a theological position.But you are right about the disastrous nature of single-issue culture warrior voters. We are living in it now. Some of us tried to warn people, but Copium is a helluva drug.
>>532878521The US is getting ready to do that right now actually with that Dignidad Bill they're pushing in congress.
>>532878036>The point of Christian revivalism, hastily introduced in time with the rise of the so-called "alt right," is to put Whites back on the Judeo-Christian plantation, channeling any pro-White sentiment you might have into a universalist ideology that ultimately centers Semitic myth in everyone's life.THANK YOU!! I feel like I'm the only one whose noticed this!!
>>532878952Thanks, fren.
>>532879354I actually can, Seventh Day Adventists. It's one of those weird American-founded denominations for sure. I'm not bothering to Google to see if I'm right.
>>532870347Desperately looking for anything to give their pointless lives meaning
Seems kind of silly.
>>532879606Ancient religions didn't work the way Abrahamic ones do. The Temple of Jupiter Ammon wasn't canvassing people to join. The Eleusinian Mysteries didn't prostyletize, you had to be worthy to join. Abrahamic faiths, literally, take anybody as long as you make a profession of faith and follow the rules. Even then nowadays you can not follow the rules and they'll keep you for numbers.Once more I repeat: all invigorating aspects of Christianity are essentially pagan remnants in our psyche; they are not Christian.Look at what strict orthodox and primitivist Christianity actually does and achieves. It is nothing like what you are thinking of.
>>532879354Gnosticism. It's something that is actually prevalent in media and thought nowadays. Organic too.
>>532880623That was early christianity too. You had to be recommended in, and could be kicked out for a major sin. But christianity abandoned that line of thought.
>>532880813>Organic tooTo certain extent. Gnostic ideas have leaked into public consciousness from secret societies, and any stories with articulated cosmology recreate gnostic cosmos these days. But western minds just creates stories that are christian in their substance, with aesthetics changed. The interesting part is people do it unwittingly.
>>532880813>GnosticismWestern Buddhism. Not a good religion for whites on the verge of extinction.
>>532880226Whatever it is will be very ethnically focused. The failures of christianity can largely be attributed to how it robs its adherants of any way to reject foreigners of the same faith while also culturally centering a foreign people. The whole reason for the attempts at pagan revivals is people seeking an ethnoreligion. And christian identity is a direct response to this problem, although it ultimately just makes it worse. But a religion has to make some theological sense. No one is going to believe that their god or gods only apply to them. That wasn't even really the case in antiquity when people had a much poorer sense of what the world and universe were like. So you have to resolve a universal creation with justified separation.It isn't necessarily that much of a hurdle. The ancient Greeks who thought everyone was worshiping the same gods under different names didn't take that to mean that ethnicity didn't matter. But coming out of the ethnically universalist mentality of evangelizing religions like christianity, islam, and buddhism will present a challenge for people raised in cultures permeated by them.
>>532881532High IQ post. I've heard ancestor worship floated around.
>>532880815>doesn't know ChristoryHoly Newfag.
>>532881266Buddha was an Aryan. This is manifest from artistic depictions of him that, ironically, Christians and Muslims both are always trying to destroy.Wonder why.
>>532880892Celsus contradicts this view. This was one of the earliest criticisms of the religion, that they were not discerning of converts.Ambrose of Milan seems to have operated a much more exclusive model but that's not the one that won in the end.
>>532881532>>532881805This is also my theory, i.e. ancestor worship and the deification of people of exceptional capability and merit. I'm something of a believer in the euhmeristic hypothesis of the origins of the Ancient Gods; they were all mortals once, just exceptional ones who ascended either literally or in eternal memory to godhood.
>>532882167Ok cool, doesn't change my point. We need a religion that puts emphasis on the physical world not one that says the physical world is evil, which is the central tenant of buddhism.
>>532882556>ancestor worship and the deification of people of exceptional capability and merit.Kind of like the greek hero cults?
>>532881805I think we could also see a theologized version of blood and soil. Where people begin treating their land, people, and culture as sacred. This would theoretically be a natural transition from secular civic virtue. It would also help address the increasing problem of social atomization and perhaps be a way to dissolve some political tribalism.
>>532882572No one is asking you to strictly be a Buddhist. Spirituality is supposed to be about what works, no just theology. Again - big facet of how Abrahamism was a virus.
>>532882624Exactly that, correct.
>>532883192What about the afterlife. That's going to be the most important concept this new religion has to nail. >>532883415Kek I'm imaging a hero cult dedicated to Hitler.
>>532883974It already exists. Do you not know about Savitri Devi? Esoteric Hitlerism?
>>532870347you made an entire thread about an unsubstantiated imaginary claim, congrats midwit
>>532870347Psyop to get them to fight jew's war.
>>532885010>Do you not know about Savitri Devi? Esoteric Hitlerism?I'm familiar with it, but it always struck me as...eastern? Idk. My suspicion is that Hero cults will need to be much more western. But I'm just speculating.
>>532883974The afterlife is strangely not that important to get super specific about. A vague sense that the righteous are somehow rewarded while the wicked are punished is what the laity of essentially every religion ends up believing regardless of what is canon. And even differences of opinion about things as fundamental as whether or not people reincarante can coexist in religions that don't take an especially hard stance either way. Both ancient Greeks and modern jews had/have a decent minority that believe in reincarnation without anyone else caring.Even when early christianity was able to gain adherants by offering an easier way to paradise, it was simply ahead of an existing trend. Between mystery religions, imported gods, and alterations to myths the Roman empire had already been moving away from "everyone but heroes and people who personally offend the gods just become ghosts in Hades" to something more like heaven and hell even before christianity came around. So any new religion will simply maintain that idea of cosmic justice.I suppose one thing that will likely be a consideration is avoiding the absolutist and all or nothing nature of judgement that often makes christians look bad. No one likes the idea of an unbaptized baby burning in hell forever while a born again serial rapist enjoys paradise for eternity. So I think there will be a greater emphasis on proportionality.
>>532886000Checked>A vague sense that the righteous are somehow rewarded while the wicked are punished is what the laity of essentially every religion ends up believing regardless of what is canon.True, but they'll need to be a mechanism to answer what makes this afterlife exclusive to whites. The idea that whites are the only people with souls won't work. If it is to be truly ethnic based there needs to be a way around this. I mean fuck even Judaism allowed converts and claims we're all descended from Adam.
>>532870566Go ahead and get yourself killed them since you want to 'feel alive' so much
>>532870347Seeing how much damage a comparatively small portion of Christians are causing right now (CUFI), I gag at the thought of them multiplying.
>>532885873Lots of Eastern practices were started by Aryans but they've been corrupted by accretions since we abandoned these areas to the castes we once governed.Check out AshaLogos if you aren't familiar with his work; he was very effective to me.
most of these zoomers will leave christianity when they get no pussy and realize they cant kill people they dont like, its all vibes with these people , der zoomer is incapable of actually unironically joining something, the first cracks are already beginning to show with the ''reformed whore'' epidemic
>>532888175Yeah that's the other problem. Most of them do it to get pussy; they take up a religion for all the wrong reasons. This is why "popular religion" was always looked down on in antiquity, instinctively.
>>532886290There's no way to convince people that the afterlife is exclusive to a particular race. But if you're already doing ancestor worship and have a literal national spirit, then it's a natural conclusion that the souls of the dead would be sorted according to ethnicity. Sort of like different people being brought to the halls of different Norse gods, but racial. This would also have the secondary effect of discouraging miscegenation as it would make people worry that they would be dooming their potential children to some sort of racial purgatory.
History only moves forward and the only answer is real nontheism which has unironically never been tried but you are too brainwashed to even consider it.
>>532889604You can't make humans not believe in something higher than themselves, that's folly. So long as man lives under the sun, moon and stars and feels their position affects his life he will always revere something higher than himself.
>>532889746Quite a few of those translations are wrong. Check a proper dictionary.Or even better:https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Pompeian_Painting_(1990)Post your findings, please.(not wewuzing like nordcucks in case someome asks, I'm not Roman but Iberian)About the other thing, you could read the Romans as well.
>>532882167>Buddha was an Aryanmy nigga knows his shit>>532882572>We need a religion that puts emphasis on the physical world not one that says the physical world is evilbuddhism doesn't say that. that's more a zoroastrian/manichean/gnostic tenet which has a deeper truth to it that you are ready to admit to. if you want a religion which glorifies physical reality then i suggest you try judaism
Good effortposts OP, unfortunately imageboard christians are the most delusional people on the planet.
>>532889746>So long as man lives under the sun, moon and stars and feels their position affects his life he will always revere something higher than himself.and so we should. self-humbling is the only route to truth. the real test is choosing the right thing to revere, which is where most fail.
>>532892943>if you want a religion which glorifies physical reality then i suggest you try judaismJudaism is the exact opposite of that though. Aryans embraced the real world, and the struggle of life itself became divine. The whole reason jews are so mentally ill is because their ancestors had a mental breakdown because they couldn't face the harshness of life and they delved deep into their own pointless schizo mysticism ramblings. The whole kabbalah doctrine is about escaping the physical world to some hidden tranny realm by subverting everything, or in the same vein "fixing" the world (tikkun olam) by destroying everything natural or good. Rejecting this world is fundamentally jewish.
>>532893905come back when you understand the real meaning of jewish heaven.
>>532894427Not an argument.
>>532894558sorry, it was a bit harsh. i don't disagree that jews are against all natural order, but therein lies their aim: ultimate subjugation under their full control. if you truly understand them you will find they are the least spiritual, most materialistic beings on this planet, utterly bound to this realm through their mundane thought.
>>532894859i should add: bound to this realm through a single dimension of being
>>532870347You're a freemason luciferian. I really want to hunt you faggots down. Best form of suicide. I'm going to van helsing you satanic trash
>>532870347>>532895333Check em stupid faggot. Even Satan hates your retarded faggot ass
>>532894859I have to mostly agree with the other anon. Gnosticism, and consequently kabbalah and judaism, have a particularly negative and dismissive attitude towards the physical world. A lot of their evil behaviors and beliefs stem from this attitude that the spritual and physical are at odds and that siding against the physical world makes them spiritually enlightened.
>>532870347What is the gist of all this? What do you want to achieve? Has this ever been done in history and has it ever lasted?
>>532892953I used to be one, I know.The key to it all is transmutation; taking your worst attributes and making them productive.Ask me how I know.
>>532895333>freemason luciferianYou don't actually know what any of these words mean.Read a book, nigger.
>>532870347>Politicalbrained retard realizes that Christians has to be in the world but not of the worldYes? We put our faith in Christ not of our own works, this world is essentially fubar as history has shown and will continue to illustrate till the end times.
>>532898412>huuurrrrrrr durrrrr just let God handle it bro
>>532898555Yes.
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>>532898991Everything is vanity except Jesus and all is a means to an end towards the inner workings of the trinity hope this clears it all up :-) have a good weekend anon.
>>532899157Trinitarianism is not a Christian concept. You can't prove it from the Scriptures.
>>532901342>Trinitarianism is not a Christian conceptcopehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Rrzo55G364
>>532870347>IQ declines rapidly under la Zoomeros >christjewery intensifiesThat's it bud
>>532873361Non IQ
>>532870347It's just an edgy phase. Christianity/Catholicism is just the new emo. It'll wear off when a new craze comes along.
>>532899157>Everything is vanity except Jesusjesus is such a narcissist.
>>532870347>I keep seeing all this stuff from Christposters on this boardits the same people every single day, clearly not zoomers.devoid of anything constructive or relevant in terms of politics.why do we know this? none of the political movements against zion is christian.rather the opposite, the christian niggers love jews.they donate to them in the billions and their churches work for multiculturalism and lgbtq.its literally mentally ill retards who "cant work"the bulgarian gypsy pretending like he knows european historythe vocaroo spammer that nobody's listening tothe 3 retards who keep recycling pictures of fake history that tells them that theyre the "real jews"its either just mentally ill retards and/or USAID psyoperation to maintain the relation between US + Israel
>>532870347The solidification of our demographic replacement.
>>532870786Nordic religions do not predate Christ since Christ is God. Also theres millions of pajeets who disagree with you they'll tell you Nordic religions stole from India.
>>532882167Buddha was a shitskin with black hair and couldn't even grow a beard. He wasn't White neither are you. Go back, Sukdeep.
>>532910556>>532910758>memeflag kike larping as a White man to push his slave religion
>>532911110>Shitskin copeWhite Christians are Gods chosen. Seethe, buddhacuck.
>>532870347This is from a mid-20s Zoomer who has recently found Christ through my own self-exploration and interospection, so there may be significant discrepancies from what other Zoomers might say.The crisis I underwent was a shattering of the belief I had in my parents as "good Christians." This is not to say I used to be Christian and am now neo-Christian, nor would I use the term "born-again". My inner model of my world was foundationally predicated on my parents being, despite already understanding that no human is perfect, stereotypical Christians/protestants as I had come to understand the Protestant movement. When they shattered that by their own actions, I had to critically reevaluate what I held as my foundational beliefs, especially in regard to how I treat others.Long story short, I came to a self-discovery that I learned, only recently, was actually extremely common in ancient Christianity. I found Gnosticism from base principles, and created my own, most likely heretical but still what I consider to be the truest, interpretation of Christ's message and teachings.I now hold the belief that all humans capable of rational thought are beings of God's creation. At some point, we developed an ability to rationalize and interpret our surroundings and create our own works of beauty and majesty. That ability to rationalize and interpret is what I see as consciousness/inner self. And it's worthy of protecting in all beings so long as the being does not hold a position that another being's existence should not exist simply because of the limitations/visuals of the physical body holding creation, i.e. if you think a child deserves death/non-existence, you in turn also deserve death.I'm absolutely welcome to questions/dialogue on this. I don't really have anyone literate/philosophically inclined towards this level of thought, nor have I wrote any of this down at length.1/2
>>532875810Retard
>>532909729The real Zion is in America and should be governed by White Christians. That's what all the true ChristChads are pushing for. We are Chosen. The Amish and Mormons are on our side too.And since you're a faggot who doesn't read the Bible God is clearly against multiculturalism and lgbtq.
>>532871698Nietzchean brainlets keep crying about muh slave morality muh ubermensch muh rise above yourself and yet we have had a grand total of zero (0) nietzcheans who have been aa important as even the most irrelevant of popes, who guide 1.5 billion souls and rising.Get a grip.
>>532870347Nasa is anti catholic anti Chris jew commie lying fremaosnic gt that's done by jewry and freemasonic shit and every nation captain Ross ad tsara he stopped 110 mir voyage in reality
>>5329116092/2Re: Zoomers as a generationThis is 100% because of the internet. We got exposed to the deep flaws within society-at-large at a very early age. Gambling, nicotine, sex, etc.Vices are fine, they're a natural part of the human battle. I also don't think that it's unique to our generation; people have written countless stories about abusive parents/alcoholics/violence/murder across millenia. The uniqueness to our generation, however, is that we also have video and photographic proof of a genuinely happy, safer, more survivable existence within three, four generations. The men of our generation who managed to survive past college are either narcissists hell-bent on looksmaxxing, complete shut-ins who are afraid of rejection, people always searching for more ways to cheat others (cryptobros/20-year-old "investors"/communists), or ubermensch who started working things out for themselves. And, while this may be true for past generations as well, I would argue they are all modern evolutions of archetypes for generations since the dawn of Civilization.
>>532870347Not your blog
>>532881266This. Eastern religions are not White and never will be. Jews are the ones pushing jeetism and eastern religions onto America.>>532875810>X religion existed before ChristJewish/buddhacuck belief.Egyptian religion didn't exist before God Almighty. Jesus was God in human form nothing existed before Him.
The divine is absolutely incorporeal, and impassible. catholics, orthodox, and mainline protestants all believe this.>It cannot suffer>It cannot be shamed>It cannot be arrested, beaten, mocked, crucified>It cannot dieA God who suffers is a God who can be affected, which means a God who is not fully self-sufficient, which means not truly supreme.christcucks say:>yeshua was truly divineotherwise you have the Arianism heresy that atonement has no infinite weight>yeshua truly suffered otherwise you have the Docetism heresy that yeshua only appeared to have a body and only appeared to suffer.>These are not two separate beingsotherwise you have the Nestorian heresy of two personsChalcedon's argument fails to explain how two natures, one person, without confusion, without change, without division, without separation works. How can human suffering affect the divine? It cannotThis is a fundamental issue with the theology that the followers of the sect of saul and rabbi yeshua have no answer to the above.
>>532911339Christianity is the religion of weakness. It's the one religion that tells you to welcome invaders and forgive the nigger savage that just raped your sister or beheaded your mother. Fuck you, jew.
>>532912888>Low IQ postGod choosing to become a man then resurrecting Himself after He died is something only God could do through the Holy Spirit/God/Son relationship. It's as supreme as you can get, dummy.
>>532913129It does none of those things. You are a mindraped shabbos goy.
>>532913456>memeflag>doesn't answer the question in my postMany such cases>Holy Spirit/God/Son relationshipYou've committed the heresy of modalism. You don't understand your own shitty desert cult. kwab
>>532913129Go around raping and murdering people then, faggot. We'll see what happens to you on Judgement day. You have no idea who or what God is.
>>532913654You already lost when you said God is not truly supreme. He mogs you in every single way.>Muh desert Great argument. God only created deserts. Garden of Eden didn't exist brah.
>>532911742> we are retards an we belevie in retarded madeup shit.yeah..
>>532913566you're under the gaslight bud
>>532914030I said a god who suffers is not supreme. You have yet to disprove this. Please do explain how a supreme being can be caused to suffer.yaweh is the false god of the canaanites who lived in the desert. It is apt to call the religion a desert cult.
Pray harder and trust the plan goy
>>532914030No reply to >>532915565Same as it ever was
>>532870347>Political Ramifications of Zoomers becoming Christiana fiction, christcuck identification only goes down with age
>>532870347>I keep seeing all this stuff from Christposters on this board now talking about how, "Based," Gen Z is for becoming Christian.No one sees that shit except your mutt eyes I only see threads made by kikes praising Trump for bombing Iran and threads made by kikes praising Obama for being better than Trump Irl christianity as a religious ideology is losing ground among first worlders after kikes developed new modern cults like LGBTQism Majority of christcucks are thirdie niggers these days
>>532915565jehovah(Jesus) was not the God of the canaanites you dumb faggot pajeet
>>532928308yaweh is a god of the canaanites and the cult of rabbi yeshua worships him. Take off the meme flag rabbi
>>532928692Jesus is Jehovah YHWH. He's not the God of the canaanites. You're going to hell with jews and hindus. Enjoy.
>>532870347It’s over Protestants/Masons. The broccoli-haired zoomers are all flooding into our churches and converting. The Pope is American. Protestantism is dead. We’re taking over America/Great Britain/the Anglosphere and reversing the Reformation.
>>532911802You ok man?
>>532928787yeshua is the son of yaweh (actually Pantera). you abbreviate yaweh like a jew. say it in full rabbi.
>>532928934I could never get pas the veneration of saints and The Virgin Mary. Is that mandatory?
>>532929188Wrong.Christ is the God of the OT.Stop responding and do your research and study. Gtfo.
>>532929259Are you that anon that insists he is the Archangel Michael?
>>532929325No, Jesus is Jehovah the God of the OT. He even said so Himself.Michael is an Archangel. An interesting theory about Michael though is God had Michael become Adam the first human on Earth. Michael was Gods most coveted Angel in the Heavens so it would make sense for him to be chosen to be Adam.
>>532929259John 5:17. yeshua is not the god of the ot. You couldn't say yaweh so I will not reply to you anymore you memeflag rabbi.
>>532929465There is an anon with a Deus Vult meme flag that calls himself the chosen one. I think he is some Indian shill. They are okay with making such claims.
>>532872769nah too much Bible and no one and done frauds either
>>532928934Catholicism is for brown turds like mexicans of phillipino mongrels, go fuck yourself retardation.
>>532929563If hes calling himself Michael the Archangel hes a lying faggot>>532929481You're so fucking gay. I already said like thrice that Jehovah/YHWH is Jesus who is the God of the OT.
>>532930022m7 you can’t say Yahweh you do the Jew spelling and you give 0 evidence for Jesus being the god of the ot. You seem to be denying the trinity. You’re getting shit on
>>532930565Jesus said Himself he's the God of the OT are you calling Jesus a liar? Jehovah/Jesus/YHWH are the same thing.>denying the trinityno Im not.God the Father=ElohimGod the Son=JehovahHoly Spirit=Holy Ghost
>>532930739>jew spelling Yahweh stillYou’re committing the heresy of modalism. Jesus is not Yahweh and Jesus is the not the Holy Spirit, etc. They are all god but they are not each other m7. Go to Sunday school rabbi. Spell out Yahweh or you are a Jew
>>532931036>Jesus is not YahwehYes He is but the jews dont believe that to be the case they replaced Him with something else.Jesus=Jehovah/YahwehThere I spelled it out for you
>>532931269That’s modalism which is a heresy m7. You would be burned at the stake by the church for that. Google it bitch
>>532931360No it's not modalism because all 3 (God the Father, God the Son, and the Holy Ghost) are separate beings.Jesus is Jehovah but that doesn't mean He's the same being as God the Father. Heavenly Father chose Jesus to be the God of the OT.
>>532931616>separate beingsNow you’ve committed the partialism heresy. Please go to Sunday school and try again in a new thread once you understand the trinity
>>532870347>27 yo spergs converts out of loneliness>Find no single women between 18 and 50>Stop going to churchMany such cases
>>532931737It's not partialism either.Heavenly Father, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are 3 completely separate beings. That's not modalism or partialism.
>>532931921>completely separate beingsThat’s the tritheism heresy. You keep changing what you say and you commit a new heresy every time. Give up m7
>>532932097I've never once changed my position. I've said like 50 times that Jesus is the god of the ot but not God the Father.Jesus spoke about the Father many many times. Was he BS'ing? You realize Jesus was killed because He was claiming to be Jehovah right? They thought He was a schizo liar.
>>532932209And after He was killed He resurrected because God the Father gave Him the power to resurrect.Jesus wasn't talking to Himself when He was calling out to the Father.
>>532932097pic relJesus is saying here He's the God of the OT. He also calls out to the Father.He's both Jehovah AND the begotten Son of God.
>>532932209>Doesn’t deny he committed tritheismJesus was whacked because he pissed off the Pharisees by saying they were scoundrels. They couldn’t give a damn about what Jesus claimed to be
>>532870347>most of these reactionaries are pretty much larpers embracing icons to give them the ilusion of beinn in the right trackAs if christianity wasnt already watered down enough>>532870566>descend into iconoclasmIts pretty much why most zoomer christians are just a bunch of larpers living off fumes, such as youtube edits.They regurgitate bullshit
>>532932469No, Jesus is saying Moses foretold him and if don’t believe in Moses how can you believe Jesus. You’re illiterate
You said yahweh so I'll humour you one more time>>532930739>Jehovah/Jesus/YHWH are the same thing>>532931921>Heavenly Father, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are 3 completely separate beings>>532932209>wahh i haven't changed what I saidlol, lmao evenYou still haven't explained how something impassible can suffer. Please do so.
>>532870347Don’t engage with christcucks
>>532932571Moses wrote how Jehovah (Jesus) created everything in Genesis. In addition it was also prophesized Jesus would later come back in human form, die and resurrect.>>532932599Theres no contradiction there.Jesus being Jehovah doesn't mean He's God the Father. It means He's the Creator in the OT.
>>532932501>jew responseThey attempted to kill Him many times before the actual crucifixion for blasphemy. There was more to it than just calling the Pharisees scoundrels.>>532932656>noooo the world can't know about its Creator!!>also jew response
>>532933405>can't explain how the impassible can sufferkwab
>>532933796The Creator of our world can't come here in human form and die+resurrect? Ok, chud.
>>532932571>>>532933405>Mosesnever existed and the soure based on years also dont make sense.> After the Babylonian Exile (586 BCE) and the Persian conquestThe Jews who returned to Judah (or in the diaspora) had to rebuild their identity in a world dominated by foreign empires.Initially, the focus was pragmatic ritual and temple worship, like what we see at Elephantine:survival, offerings, fire altars, legal continuity.Stories like Abraham, Moses, and the 12 Tribes were not yet central, they weren’t needed for daily survival or local temple politics.Emergence of Moses and the 12 Tribes (Late Persian -> Hellenistic, 4th–3rd century BCE)Canonization of the Torah begins to pick up. The Priestly source (P source) emphasizes:Moses as lawgiver (never existed)The 12 Tribes as Israelite identity (never existed)The Exodus as foundational historyWhy then? Because identity was under pressure:Diaspora Jews needed a shared narrative to unify communities across Babylon, Egypt, and Judea.Persian administration required a sense of legal and cultural cohesion;having a codified lawgiver and tribal identity helped justify autonomy.So around 4th–3rd century BCE, the stories of Moses and the 12 Tribes appeared or “important” for the first time,(largely as identity engineering)It’s less about historical fact and more about creating a usable mythos.[6.2.5] Jews allowed in municipal senatesMunicipal senates played such an important role in the administration of the empire (especially as tax collectors)that Jews were not excluded from them.This law of Constantine even permitted some exemptions to Jews.[Theodosian Code 16.8.3]By a general law We permit all municipal senates to nominate Jews to the municipal council.But in order that something of the former rule may be left them as a solace,We extend to two or three persons from each group the perpetual privilege of not being disturbed by any nominations.[Constantine, 321]
>>532934065>uses BCEOk pajeet/jew/plebbitor
>>532934065The whole "rising / ascending" summer solstice> EgyptIsis & NephthysWitness Osiris’ resurrection / funerary rituals> GreecePersephone & DemeterWitness descent / return from underworld> MesopotamiaInanna / EreshkigalWitness cycles of death and return> Phoenicia / LevantAstarte & companionsObserve Tammuz’s seasonal death and rebirthMatthew 28:1 Mary Magdalene and “the other Mary”Mark 16:1 Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James, Salome (sometimes counted as two primary witnesses)Luke 24:10 Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James (again, roughly two primary)John 20:1 Mary Magdalene (primary), sometimes interpreted with other followers nearbyChristianity essentially steals timeless traditions of divine ascension and becomes forgotten as to why this happensby warping it to something that holds absolutely no meaning at all."fucking dying for your sins and comes back anyway"give me a fucking break.What we can tell for sure is that this is all bullshit:Abraham, Moses, Noah, the 12 tribes and that the jews were monotheistic? <- This is all a lie, made up completely and never existed.
>>532934111> cant argue with anything ive said, semenaticsChristianity & Islam both derived from the Torahshould be deleted altogether.The Genesis is pure forgery Copy paste slop stolen from Sumerians.The Elephantine Papyrus2400 years old at best (and that is being humble)No mention of MosesNo mention of ExodusElephantine Jews worship: Yahweh, Anat-Yahu & Asham-Yahu.Doesnt abide by Pentateuch: (basis of later Judaism)
>>532870347Zoomers who are Christian are sex trafficking victims. The only ones who aren't are the Mormons and they're slowly de-materializing from modern reality
>>532870393>Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also."- 1 John 2:23>"The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,” meaning one person, who is Christ."- Galatians 3:16>"[Jesus said to the jews:] You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own resources, for he is a liar and the father of it."- John 8:44>"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."- Revelation 3:9the bible calls the jews the sons of ishmael, and the Christians the sons of shem.- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKlT-hhZXoM&t=658s >"[The jews,] Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; they do not please God, but are contrary to all mankind."- 1 Thessalonians 2:15
>>532870786>pagan men worship gods of warand christian men defeat them militarily time and again>pagan women worship goddesses of fertility and christian women are more fertileyou worship demons- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimonwho rape you- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mythological_rape_victims
>>532871016>the black and red colour schemethe National Socialists call this symbol a Hooked Cross- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hakenkreuzbanner
Rejecting Christ automatically makes you on the side of the hellbound pedophile zionists
>>532873946the flag this man is holding, is also a cross and the KoolKidsKlub is also a christian organization btw
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>>532885010>Esoteric Hitlerismthe national socialists have always been christian- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult_KA
>>532887473>covered in blood samples showing signs of someone who suffered extreme torture and blood loss>feet covered in Jerusalem limestone>embedded pollen from area of Levant>linen samples matching ones found at Siege of Masada ~60 AD>2 micrometer thick 3 dimensional imprint on topmost surface layers of linen, that when topographized literally just look like a photograph, far beyond the capabilities of any Renaissance, much less Antiquity, artist to recreate>entire history of Shroud lines up with history of Image of Edessa from the classical east, right down to obscure, tiny details such as specific patterns of burn holes appearing in other Orthodox renditions in the 11th, 9th, earlier centuries. refuting the initial dating to medieval times>early fragments of apocryphal writings quoted by Church Fathers as far back as 200 AD reference Jesus's burial shroud actually being given and moved around by the Church before being hidden and kept safe, establishing historical awareness/precedent of the artifact>the earliest Orthodox icons of Jesus line up exactly with the facial features of the Shroud; the Orthodox icon still used today of Jesus's face lines up exactly with when the original image of Edessa was taken out of its hiding spot and made public again in 554 >wound up being publicly known in France a century and a half after a Crusader reported seeing the shroud of Jesus in Constantinople before it disappeared in the sacking of 1204>only recreated a few years ago, in a laser lab where an incredibly intense, short burst of laser/radiation copied the already known information from the shroud to copy it>God literally took a photograph in 1st century AD so His Church would have His face for the icons
>>532898000reminder:>the catholic church does NOT allow it's members to be masons- https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19831126_declaration-masonic_en.html>an orthodox synod has condemned masonry as incompatible with a christian's faith and practice- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_attitudes_towards_Freemasonry#Eastern_Orthodoxy>the kkk does NOT accept freemasons as members, and many other protestant denominations have also condemned masonry>hitler and mussolini threw the masons in the same concentration camps as the kikes, fags and jeets- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_concentration_camp_badges- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Freemasons#Nazi_Germany_and_occupied_Europe>the communists persecuted masonry- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Masonry#Soviet_Union>masonry is ILLEGAL in most muslim nations today- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Freemasons#Muslim_anti-Masonry
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>>532929481>jesus is not the god of the ot>"Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then [the jews] took up stones to [kill] Him [...]"- John 48-49trinity in the Old Testament - https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-A- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CBh8lmgecs
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>>532935916>>pagan women worship goddesses of fertility >and christian women are more fertileThe Christian Tombstone of Medieval Cuckold Anxiety"Here lies the honor of English husbands, crushed by Vikings’daily-combed hair, weekly baths, and irresistible manners.Circa 1002 – eternal reminder: cleanliness kills, and beauty conquers all."> One thirteenth-century chronicle attributed a slaughter of Danes by Anglo-Saxons in 1002 to the former's irre- sistibility to the latter's spouses:"The Danes made themselves too acceptable to English women by their elegant manners and their care of their person.They combed their hair daily, according to the custom of their country, and took a bath every Saturday, and even changed their clothes frequently,and improved the beauty of their bodies with many such trifles, by which means they undermined the chastity of wives."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Wallingford_(d._1258)Christianity wasnt more fertile, but it weakened marriage to something that nobody believes in anymore.Christians were the most cuckolded society in history of man, the wandering spirits of Mylings haunted christian society because of the rampant cuckolding pandemic.The christians wives was bred hard and long before they spawned Myling demons through their offspring that was left to die.these mylings lingered around humans until baptised on christian church grounds.
>>532936091Nazi Germany saw christianity as the enemy Germanic folk.- we dont need any bulgarian gypsy to tell us otherwise.
>>532936139The freemasons were mostly christian, while also practitioners of egyptian and germanic paganism.Fucking retarded gypsy, pick up a history book once in a while.
>>532936040The cross isnt christian btw.we used the cross for over 1100 years before christianity even was so much as a thought.
>>532936105I want to be 80 IQ too sometimes.
>>532887269I thought you didn't care about life and death, since all are one in Christ Jesus
>>532870347I can't say that a significant number of the Zoomer generation are becoming Christian. Nor can I speak for any particular movement going on in the Catholic church. What I can speak for is my own experiences studying Catholic history for several years.To state it plainly there is a lot of Catholic history that has not yet been revealed to the general public. Most Americans are not aware of the fact that General Sherman was a baptized Catholic. Even most Catholic Americans are not aware of that fact. There is going to be a significant reappraisal of American history.
