the NRSVue with Apocrypha is the best bibble translation
>>532876983Ah yes beautiful translation indeed, so many heartwarming stories. Make sure to read all of it sometime cattle.
>not kjvNgmi
>>532876983New age trash. Among others:>Luke 2:33Claims Jesus isn't the son of God.>Acts 8:37Perverts the doctrine of baptism.>Colossians 1:14Removes the atonement.>1 Timothy 3:16Removes God manifest in the flesh.>>532877473This.
>>532876983>>532877473ideally you would read the greek directly- https://biblehub.com/text/john/3-16.htmi'm unaware of the NRSV, but the KJV is quite goodpersonally i prefer the NKJV, as it's easier to read for a modern english speakerbut the KJV does get some things wrong, like how it calls everything "hell", instead of hades / sheol, abhraham's bossom, the lake of fire / gehennah, etctranslations can be problematic, if they're meant to push a message. famously with the scofield bible pushing zionismbut i think different translations have their advantages, to reach people where they're at>"God wen get so plenny love an aloha fo da peopo inside da world, dat he wen send me, his one an ony Boy, so dat everybody dat trus me no get cut off from God, but get da real kine life dat stay to da max foeva"- https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%203:16&version=HWP
>>532877221>"wahh! wahh! won't somebody please think of the amalekites!!"god genocided the giantsgod genocided the humans at the time of noahgod genocided the sodomitesgod genocided the gomorransgod will genocide the devil and the fallen angelsgod will genocide the sinners in the lake of hellfire>whybecause they're enemies of godmee kah ELwho is like God?
>>532876983Neutered fucking disgusting woke bullshit:Inclusivity/Neutrality: "Gender-accurate," "gender-inclusive," "non-sexist".Accuracy/Reliability: "Literal," "formal equivalence," "scholarly," "rigorously reviewed".Modernity/Clarity: "Contemporary language," "readable," "updated textual evidence".Go for the full Ethiopian Bible with the 88 books including the three books of Enoch and not so many revisions.
>>532876983Why not just the rsv, it’s better
KJV is the best if you're from the 1600's. If you're not a time traveler then use the ESV.
>>532876983Considered a liberal translation, mostly used by CathsNASB or the LSB, the ESV or the KJV are my favorites.
>>532876983That’s just the catholic bible. The “apocrypha”, meaning unapproved books, were taken out in the Protestant reformation. Why? Because the masoretes, descendants of the Pharisees, removed them for containing prophecies of Jesus Christ and convinced retarded Christians they weren’t canon. We had those books for the first 1,500 years of the church and the Protestants removed them because they trusted jews over Catholics and Orthodox. Do a quick AI search on the differences between the Greek Septuagint and the Masoretic text and it will become instantly clear why Protestants became Zionist jew puppets.
>>532878478There is no god you abrahamotard goycattle. Those things you mentioned are purely myths.
Schöningh'sche is the best
>>532879188Translations hardly matter and you’ll be hard pressed to find substantial differences. What matters is the underlying manuscripts used, not the petty grammar and vocabulary choices between translations. Even the NIV when it comes to the New Testament is fine and is probably the easiest to comprehend.
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>>532878408>da maxWait did we get this from Hawaiian? A real rabbit hole is how modern music wouldn't look the same without the lap guitar. Hawaiian music doesn't happen in America, Leo never makes a fender strat.Anyways I'm very impressed with everyone's knowledge of different Bible versions. I'm just happy to have KJV. My church uses the NIV. Seems alright. I like looking at the original Greek when I can.
>>532876983>with Apocryphawrong.
>>532876983Only acceptable version is the Greek original.Even that's cucked from censorship on the parts of Constantine and Saul.Best course of action is to divine God through the Christ yourself and ask direct questions.Clears a lot of the Judaism away.
>>532880032Those books were in the Bible for 1,500 years of church history and removed because the jews said they weren’t canon. They are because Jesus and the New Testament writers reference them.
>>532879783Yeah this proves that you should worship the jewish myths. Jews hate it when you worship their god.
NASB 95Also, if the Bible makes perfect sense without the apocrypha, Luther was right.
>>532880540see>>532879859>>532879904>>532879939
>>532880282Parallel themes are references nigger
think this graph is unfair in how it lumps every translation together, but someone might find it useful
>>532878478>it's okay to kill newborns because god said sois this the power of turning your brain off completely?
>>532880540Jews don't have a god. They are gnostic atheists or straight up edgelord demon worshipers.
>>532880655They weren't removed to hide something.The KJV used verses that weren't old enough to be verifiable.It's like getting mad that someone took out some footnotes.
>>532876983Here's some verses for you>>532879598Based.>>532879783Trash.
>>532881022yeah no shit jesus was jewish everyone knows that, but then people started to worship him specially
>>532877473kJV is the original subversive translation lmao. The translators were influenced to change the correct translation of "Judeans" and "Israelites" to the catch all "Jews", to somehow equate that Judeans of Jesus's time were more united than they were, and to imply that modern "Jews" (Talmudists) are continuous with ancient "Jews" when they are factually not. Talmudists are discontinuous with the ancient Israelites and the Judeans of Jesus's time.I like the prose but sometimes it doesn't quite convey the same meaning as the original Greek.
I’ve read the bible dozens of times. Most Jews never read the Torah more than once. What they spend their entire life studying and trying to master is the Zohar. This is where they learn Jewish sorcery that they claim Yeshua used to perform miracles.Secret societies like the Freemasons share a few minor secrets of the Zohar to impress loyalty from the goyim initiates who contribute.
>>532879774I agree th NIV is fine, and use a reverse interlinear along with a BDAG lexicon and Silva's word study, so I guess I'm an Alexandrian manuscripts guy, even though my favorite translation is the KJV.. but no, I think translation philosophy is more important than the.manuscripts used. Formal equivalnce/word for word translations are superior to dyanmic equivalence/thought for thought translations for obvious reasons.
>>532881314An ESV reverse interlinear*But yeah, translation philosophy is more important than whether or not they're using the Nestle Aland, or the Masoretic texts for their source.
>>532881177The KJV is not the most accurate translation, this is true, but it is not "misleading", and continues to serve believers well.
>>532881177the translation is perfectly etymologically fine as "jew" is literally the continuous uninterrupted word used since antiquity to describe the ethnic group that rejected the christ(and came from them in the flesh), your larp exists only online and has nothing whatsoever to do with historical christianity; all saying jew != judaean does is acknowledge that the former have nothing to do with the condemnation of the christ and hence free of blood libel
>>532880798There's an impenetrable mental barrier, you just can't reason with them. They are fully emotional.
>>532881022>parents Mary & Josephhe's the son of godif you wanna talk genetics, his Y haplogroup would be granted from god>genealogy trances to abraham>"Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.” Then [the jews] took up stones to [kill] Him [...]"- John 48-49>practiced judaismmodern judaism has nothing to do with biblical christianity it's books were compiled hundreds of years after jesushere's what they actually believe- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuGAzFyHiwY- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rsoVh13Y7Q>kosher laws>"Then the scribes and Pharisees who were from Jerusalem came to Jesus, saying, “Why do Your disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread.”"- Matthew 15:1-2>king of the jews*king of kings>"These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.”"- Revelation 17:14>"And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS."- Revelation 19:16>"which God will bring about in his own time—God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords"- 1 Timothy 6:15 >all followers were jewishcornelius, the roman centurion, from acts of the apostlesluke, a greektitus, a greektimothy, a greeketc>no credible historianeven if you still want to maintain the claim, the denomination Christian Identity holds that the original hebrews were Whitelinks here- https://rentry.org/Deus_Vult
>>532881639Maybe mislead is too strong a word, maybe not. None of the translated are alive today to find out the truth. However, regardless of intention, poor word choice leads to big ramifications on who these people calling themselves Jews are and how we Christians should interact with them. The earliest manuscripts of the KJV do actually translate "Judeans" properly. The later ones do not.
>>532882044>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rsoVh13Y7Q meant to post- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM8LXk3fRto
>>532881925Isn't this just Pascals wager? Why would the logical outcome be wargames.jpgThe logical one is to find the most ethically sound one that passes the most rigorous tests. I always have my doubts. I sometimes think theres no way it could be true. Other times i feel more resolute. But to me the one that advocates for decency to all humans and peace over violence makes the most sense.>awesome food makes u fat>drugs are awesome but fuck your brain>sex feels great but has consequencesHuh, awfully weird. It's like it's a test. And the Christian faith usually advocates avoiding behaviors that lead to moral decay even from a non Christian perspective.
>>532882453The Gospel has absolutely nothing to do with ethics or morality
Here is the best bible translation
>>532876983>Reading a translation>Arguing if it is accurate or notIt's by definition inaccurate and loses a lot of subtle meanings of the text by being translated to a different language, let alone probably being a translation of a translation of a translation
>>532882701What happens to false prophetsSurah Al-Haqqah (69:44–47)How Muhammed diedSahih al-Bukhari (4428)
>>532882861Malding
>>532881912I do not see the point you are making. Jews is fine word when referring to those specific Judeans who rejected Christ on the day of his crucifixion and afterwards, as a catch all. It is not a fine word when referring to Judeans contemporary to Jesus's ministry, and especially to ancient Israelites. By using one word, "Jews", to refer to a bloodline and faith spanning thousands of years as if it all remained a monolithic and continuous thing is not acceptable in any serious discussion. The error the KJV makes is using a word that is unspecific when specificity is required. That's how modern Talmudists weaponized the word. They claim to be Jews, the same Jews that have always been Jews and will always be Jews, when they couldn't be further from the truth. It's like an Italian American claiming he's actually a Roman citizen by decent and therefore entitled to the privileges an ancient Roman citizen had, because he wants to own a big tiddy Gaul slave.
ESV is the best
>>532883154trinity in the old testament - https://youtu.be/odNoExd8a5U- https://youtu.be/rp92-3aBL-A- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CBh8lmgecs
>>532883234>is not acceptable in any serious discussiontell that to thousands of years of christians who have used the word continuously non stop precisely because if there is no continuity between those who had the christ killed and those in say some random town in medieval Europe, the libel and discrimination doesn't apply anymorethe point is that you are calling christians themselves retarded since the word "jew" is literally a consequence of christians themselves continuously using the word judaean non stop since Latin times and merely got garbled with time, that's it, it's the same exact word, at no point did christians themselves say "hold on we need a different word", this is entirely a nu-age cope of permanently online pseudo-christians like you
>>532883408Didn't exist until the council of nicaea 200 years after jesus.
>>532876983Can any anons tell me how well the new ignatious study bible holds up? I think Catholics have become heretical, but so are protestants. That leaves slim pickings for English, but maybe the Catholics have the least adultered one?
>>532883469free book for you - https://drive.google.com/file/d/10MwOlmdV2Y5DDQI1SArPnjWn912wkql-/view
>>532876983>gender inclusive translation Into the bin.
>>532883692Check out RC Sproul's Reformation Study Bible. Sproul's incredible. A theologian and professor of philosophy. Lots of lectures on YouTube. He nay change your opinion.
>>532883154So, maybe someone can explain this to me, without redefining words or appealing to some vague mystical divinity.God creates a covenant with man - these are the rules you must follow, to prosper and enter the kingdom of heaven. Then, with Christianity, God scraps the old covenant, and creates a new one. Thus, changing his mind, or repenting, which is against doctrine, especially the word of the angel to Balaam in Numbers, which makes the word of the angel the word of God, and Balaam a prophet, repeating the word of God.God does not change his mind, and there's no revision by God. There's no negotiation. There's no repentance. That God would partake in such things is a jewish heresy, like the chicken or eruv.So then, why the new covenant? Seems false. There would be one covenant with the people of earth and failure to adhere to it would lead God's followers to perish. Yet in the Bible, this is not what happens. It can't be both. By my reading, any jew or Christian not sacrificing X numbers of ox, and if they don't have that, Y numbers of goats (I was surprised how explicit these directions really are in doctrine, read your Bibles, people) are heretics and will surely burn.
Try the Geneva bible if you don't want something compromised. It's older than horny king Henry's church of England.
>>532884038https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_03HMKuR-wM
>>532883976I am no theologian, but I fundamentally disagree with inerrancy. The New Testament was largely written by men after the fact. Inspired teachings? Of course, but to call the filter of man incapable of error, would be to call the New Testament and those who wrote it the same as Jesus/the trinity. I genuinely see the argument they make, just like Muhammad and the Koran, but at least the Koran said it directly, although I disagree with both. I’m open to changing my opinion though.
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>>532884367Sproul was a big part behind the Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy, hear him out, he was a brilliant teacher and exegete.
>>532882044Andrew Wilson from The Crucible is orthodox
>>532883739Blatant falsehood + luke much like paul, never met Jesus (PBUH) Who he saw in a dream after killing most of his followers and wandering the desert dehydrated. Naturally he preaches things directly contradicting James, who is Jesus's direct blood relative.
>>532884233The Geneva is even less accurate than the KJV, but it's a nonetheless a great translation. Dear to my heart because it's what many of the Puritans used.
If you aren't reading the Bible in Greek then you're reading a kiked version.
>>532876983By definition ts not a translation.Its a revision.
>>532884038>Then, with Christianity, God scraps the old covenant, and creates a new one.Basically that was paul and his doctor lukeThe killshot came from the trinitarians.Much like before how God is displeased at the fact jews are Baal worshippers at heart, the gospels revealed to the christians through Jesus (no one comes to the father except through me).Problem? Utterly corrupted and doctored. The original manuscript in the language it was written also does not exist. Many references to "apocrypha".It's been cooked since the 2nd century.
>>532884653Jesus can manifest himself to anyone he wants to.
>>532884340No, some wordsmithing jibe.In his car example, God says "I'm giving you this car, forever." It doesn't matter that the people break the covenant, and God takes back the car (questionable). He's focusing on the interactions between God and the people. What matters is the CAR. The new car is different than the old car, and God has already established the car. The covenant is not whether the people get to keep the car or not, he covenant is the car. It can't be a new car, because God also said (many times) that he will never change his word, and the covenant is the word of God.
>>532877473Kjv uses the masoretic text
>>532882701Forgot the memeflag?Gon post Incel shit?
Seriously, for the old testament just use the Greek Old testament Septuagint , it's what Jesus quoted from
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>>532885917More stuff
>>532885396>God takes back the car (questionable)>"And Jesus cried out again with a loud voice, and yielded up His spirit. Then, behold, the veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom; and the earth quaked, and the rocks were split"- Matthew 27:50-51>It can't be a new car>"Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord. But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”- Jeremiah 31:31-34you could maybe try to argue that the Old Covenant would still be valid along side the Newbut the jews, who killed Christ, and affirm his killing to this day, do not worship God>"Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also."- 1 John 2:23
>>532885835>>532885885>>532885917>>532885956where are these from? been looking for the it.
>>532884920I'm not exactly sure of what you're writing. Are you saying there was no new covenant? That Jesus was the son of God/a form of God/ a prophet?>>532884653This also read the wrong way to me. God states that he is the one true god, and not to follow other gods. That seems to confirm the existence of other Gods. God says they are not the god to follow, not that they are not gods themselves. Almost like the Bible admits to the existence of other gods, that people may validly worship, even if it condemns them for doing so.
>>532876983https://www.youtube.com/@GODSABLE/playlists
>>532886017Ben born again latest video
>>532886011>This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord>Trust me, bro!Unlike other prophets in the scripture, Jeremiah just knows the word of God, no burning bushes, no angels, just "believe me bro." Maybe I'm not recalling something read.But again, it doesn't matter. God does not repent, God does not change his mind, this is the word of God, direct from God's messengers. It's like the whole could God create an object that God could not move question: God says he does not change his mind, therefore if he does, either the new covenant, or the original angels and prophets were wrong, and that can't be.>you could maybe try to argue that the Old Covenant would still be valid along side the Newbut the jews, who killed Christ, and affirm his killing to this day, do not worship GodYeah, this is the best argument that I've seen, which seems like a bit of a cope. It's not that the old covenant is gone, it's that the new covenant is appended to it. This reads like the other jewish legalisms. An all-knowing God wouldn't say, "on second thought, let me add some more stuff on. I must've forgot, or your behavior is the reason I'm changing my mind." Doesn't seem so divine, does it?
>>532879580Based anon.Thankfully,the rabbinic heresies inserted into the old testament (masoretic version) are actually very minor and almost unnoticeable to a Scripture skimmer anyways.>>532879774
possibly true, the NIV is a bigger psyop than the scofield bible - NIV was made by chicago freemasons to create the zionist ideology and 4 years after the NIV started to outsell the KJV we got the original desert storm war
>>532886112the idols, which the pagans worship as gods, are nothing >"Those who make an image, all of them are useless, And their precious things shall not profit; They are their own witnesses; They neither see nor know, that they may be ashamed. [..] The craftsman stretches out his rule, [..] He cuts down cedars for himself, [..] Then it shall be for a man to burn, For he will take some of it and warm himself; Yes, he kindles it and bakes bread; Indeed he makes a god and worships it; He makes it a carved image, and falls down to it. He burns half of it in the fire; [..] And the rest of it he makes into a god, [..] He falls down before it and worships it, Prays to it and says, “Deliver me, for you are my god!” [..] Shall I fall down before a block of wood? [..]”- [from] Isaiah 44:9-20but the devil does want to be worshipped as god>"For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’"- Isaiah 14:13-14so he uses the idols as a means to get the pagans to worship him >"Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons."- 1 Corinthians 10:20>"You worship what you do not know"- John 4:22
>>532880119Extremely based anon.
>>532886814yeah I know, but where can I download the documents. does he have a link in the description?
>>532886814>>532888201nvm, I am fucking blind. its the first link.
>>532887530>Exodus 20:3>Psalm 82:1>Deuteronomy 32:17I'm not going to duel bible verses all day. You can find lots of contradicting text, and plenty of justification for your position after already having reached it.I'm not arguing that God is not to be worshiped, I'm arguing that, should one so choose, even at the condemnation of the Israelite god, one could worship another god. Not idols, but an actual god. They exist, according to scripture.Also, still haven't seen a solid argument for the new covenant.
>>532887100god is outside of time. when he created the world, he did so with a plan>"Him, being delivered by the determined purpose and foreknowledge of God, you have taken by lawless hands, have crucified, and put to death;"- Acts 2:23>"And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings"- Acts 17:26that plan included free will for humans. god already knew what they would do and what he would do>"And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.”- Genesis 6:6-8it is not that god made a mistake, or changed his mind. he knew that this is the best timeline, and he chose to create it and go through with it anyway>can god make an object so heavy not even he could liftyes and no. no, in that god is all powerful by his very nature. so by definition, there cannot be something more powerful than himself. but by the word becoming flesh, in a sense, sure, he could do that.>"But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only."- Matthew 24:36>"[..] My Father is greater than I"- John 14:28
>>532887504just read the NKJV
>>532876983>ApocryphaYyyyyyYEssssssss, come and read to your hears ContEnT.
>>532890753why
>>532885835lxx muddles the teaching in [Mal 2:16] which was a rebuke to ezras policy of divorcing foreign wives
>>532885835really, the HPB gets the meaning of [Mal 2:16] right
