in 2001, Pro Tools allowed western music to be made perfect and erased the "Human Feel" putting everything on a grid. Over the last 25 years, as a generality, the western world has been trained and conditioned to only accept "Machine Perfect" anything and any error or human-ness is seen as wrong. This has contributed to the division in the normiesphere as the result, to oversimplify, is that people cannot handle the groove, cannot go with the flow. Their conditioning has made them slaves to the grid, in a wide-ranging number of aspects.All from music conditioning done by Music Corporations.here is a guy showing you some examples in the music and then giving his thesis on the subject.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRVGsFIiNUs
you can record off grid if you want
aw sweet a schizo thread
>>532877761>440 Hz Tuned Music has conditioned humans into slavery Corrected.
That's like saying music should be slightly out of tune as well, because *real* instruments aren't perfect like computers. No, that would just make music much worse than it already is. We always have inherently wanted perfectly tuned and timed music, no need for some horseshit conspiracy about 'training' and 'conditioning' so blow that shit back up your ass.Being "authentic" and "artisinal" is still not an excuse for mediocrity, even with AI becoming a pejorative now.
>>532877761gay and wrong. mathematical perfection is consonant. mathematical chaos is dissonant. when the numbers line up, it sounds good. when they don't line up it sounds bad. you and this idiot don't know anything.
> All from music conditioning done by Music Corporations. They have done it when they tuned all instruments from 432 Hz to 440 Hz. Perfectly tuned into CORRECT Hz music can heal you and make you happy.Perfectly tuned into INCORRECT Hz music makes you unhappy, unhealthy and violent. Guess which one they (euro globohomo and the Vatican) are pushing now.
>>532877761Did you make this?
>>532877761Buy an ad faggot
>>532878742>mathematical perfection is consonant. mathematical chaos is dissonant. when the numbers line up, it sounds good. when they don't line up it sounds bad.Or niggerish , or jewish. Which was the purpose.>>532878785
Anyone who produces knows swing is a necessity so u should be off the grid plenty
>>532878660I enjoy a slightly out of tune sound in rock. Also the imperfect timing from the drummer
>>532878872anyone who produces also knows all the things OP blames DAWs for, people like Verdi blamed metronomes for in the pastand before that modern notation was blamed
>>532877761This is far less a revelation than when you realize every single person portrayed in the media (including politicians, "journalists", influences, etc.) has a PR manager/company that has crafted their personality. And they have scripted storylines with other personalities. It's all one big WWE grift.
>>532877761yes pop enjoyers are cattle who just need some 120bpm to direct their plapping and dont look into art too deeplynobody is plapping to rush or jazz, nothing new
>>532877761>the western world has been trained and conditioned to only accept "Machine Perfect" anything and any error or human-ness is seen as wrongthey'll have to take my harmonica from my cold head hand
>>532878785you clearly have never compared the two side by sidedo you think that guitars are perfectly in tune at every note?
>>532878572>glownigger derailment Flat earth tier garbage. Blow it out your ass.
>>532879741>nobody is plapping to rush or jazz, nothing newonly africans cannot listen to rush. it's so semitic it reminds them of their slavery days. are you african?
>>532880030i love rush, but that scares the hoes is whatim sayingnoones clappin cheeks to weird music
>>532879741>>532879741>nobody is plapping to rush or jazz>xhe doesnt plap with jo jones in the backgroundsadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eANTTBvIXmI
>>532877761You don't have to follow the grid. By nature lots of VSTs have randomization built into them.In fact, all digital orchestral/trailer music is recorded with randomized off-grid and off-pitch notes to sound more authentic.
Only a retard would prefer music to silence
>>532878572440 is inert, that's why it's chosen.417, 528, whichever solfeggio frequency you use, it's going to cause health effects and if you're not careful those can be too much.I've experimented with this for years and found out how to retune music and instruments on a cent basis to each solfeggio frequency.>>532878660Real music is out of tune anyway.Equal temperament isn't in tune.You can get a true tempered neck for guitars, the frets look squiggly but every note is perfectly in tune, which means there's no buzzing or noise within chords.>>532878785Not everything was A432.Beethoven's work was in A455,4. That's what his tuning fork measures.And A432 isn't "correct" either. It's resonant with water so there's less signal loss over distance and you get more reverberation both through your body and everywhere around you.Feels fucking good, but it's not "correct", there's no such thing as correct.Different reference pitches have different effects.Which reminds me, monotone sound therapy is very ineffective in comparison with retuning whole compositions and songs, which software allows us to do live with any recording.I'm listening to REM in A432 now for instance, but when I did intensive sound therapy I would tune down by 92,94ct or up by 7,06 to fuel my creative juices. That brings A440 down to A417, one of the solfeggio frequencies.And conveniently, something a lot of producers did in the studio, they sped the tape up just a tiny bit to raise pitch by 7,06ct and "hit the sweet spot".
>>532880116you are clearly african if you don't listen to prog with the gf. go back
>>532879741>nobody is plapping to Cab Callowayhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac1ZTvpo3a0
>>532880654i hope you arent paying an AI service to tell you that bs kek
>>532877761It's true. Music simply doesn't have groove anymore. It's boring and vanilla as hell. Normgroids think a rolling trance bassline is "groove". Eww.
>>532880685https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJWJE0x7T4QHEY YAAAY
>>532880780Studied it myself.
>>532877761Sequencers existed before 2001
>>532877761OK retard then why are Zoomers leading an analog resurgence? Vinyl also is more popular than anytime since like the 1970's now. Turns out people have begun to miss 'real' in our fake and gay world where everything is faux perfect
>>532877761Is this guy a kike running some 'artisanal certification'?
>>532880886Quantising analog recordings didn't though.You could quantise midi ever since the first versions of DAWs, the Fairlight and the Synclavier did it too (albeit predating midi) with their samples.Doing it with recorded instruments requires much more processing and wasn't available until later in the 90s.Even then, music professionals are proud of their work and producers love the real deal. It took the generation that grew up with this tech and always used it as a shortcut for quantisation and autotune/melodyne to become the only way pop is produced.
>>532879611Completely accurate
>>532880654You and every other 432hz freak are morons and you’re fucking wrong, brutally so. You know what hz are, right? Cycles per second. What is a second? It’s a completely arbitrary, human invented period of time. It doesn’t have any magical numerological correspondence with anything particular important in the world at all, besides an inaccurate division of the length of a day (don’t forget about leap seconds and shit). 440, 432, these are both 100% arbitrary selections that don’t matter at all. Harmonics are harmonics regardless of where you position your base frequency for A. And if you’re going to show me retarded videos of cymatics as though that’s evidence, fuck you, mouthbreather, that all depends on the size and shape of the materials and speaker, you can make any decently low frequency produce interesting shapes from sand on the right size speaker. Your shit is made up. Nothing sounds any better tuned down to 432, it’s retard tier audiophile snake oil for morons.
>>532878543Schizo threads are the only real threads.
>>532877761>he doesn't know about metronome>he doesn't know about trigger pads>he doesn't know about 4-track editing
>>532878660>t. robot hylic
>>532880654Hey fren can you tell me more about solfeggios? I have been sleeping to an 11 hour track featuring many different healing frequencies and I feel amazing. What's up with solfeggios?
>>532881099We are vibe based beings anon. Frequency is everything. No need to be upset at this revelation.
>>532880992I personally love vinyl. But it’s not because of the audio quality (I have a very nice Technics turntable, an expensive Ortofon cartridge, and a big Marantz to drive it all, with a Cambridge pre amp) - it sounds like shit compared to a CD and we all have known that for thirty years. The joy of the vinyl is in finding it, and looking at the art, and in putting on a record that you are going to listen to a full side of. That’s the thing. Beyond that if you try to convince yourself it’s better than lossless digital audio you just don’t know anything. The only advantage records might possible have over CD audio is in dynamic range, which most music barely needs - only some classical that has quiet LOUD quiet stuff, and who fucking cares? You go get that on 96hz/24bit audio instead of you’re enough of a sperg to bother noticing that shit. So much bullshit in audio. Most of it from people that want to part you from your money.
>>532880992Often because old music was mixed and EQ'd for vinyl.Optimal format for optimal compositions.CDs used the same final product but was lossless compared with vinyl. It's to do with reproduction errors and frequency curves.Another matter to consider, everyone listened to music on hifi sets back then, big amplifiers with big speakers.New music on vinyl isn't as good, because it's mixed and EQ'd for little lossy Bluetooth earbuds and laptop speakers, as well as being dB maxxed.>>532881099The one thing you didn't mention was that sound is a pressure wave that travels along a medium.If the air had no moisture in it, A432 wouldn't be the most resonant reference pitch for each interval.
>>532881313You’re not any kind of based being if you believe this bullshit. It’s just new age horseshit made up by idiots who hawk it to see if they can get mindshare. Slowing your music down by a couple percent is not going to change anything about your body or the universe. If you want that kind of effect you need to slow it down enough that it becomes a different genre of music in the process, like how vaporwave works
>>532877761The popularity of autotune software has ruined the music industry, just as color grading has ruined movies.I doubt there's a single pop song recorded since 2004 featuring a real human voice.
>>532881094I brought up the WWE comparison because it was prudent, too. There is a shoot interview with Al Snow (I think it was done by Hannibal, that tool) where he went off on a rant and basically said exactly that, in reference to wrestling being "fake". And then he quickly changed subjects, like he realized he wasn't supposed to be saying that. And he was speaking as a lesser known personality; meaning that even minor players are compromised.
>>532881345>>532881425soulless boring boomer
>>532881354“If the air had no moisture in it” what the fuck are you talking about? You’re just stringing words together with no understanding. Air humidity varies intensely; are you saying I need to tune the music to respond to the exact humidity of the air in my house for the optimal listening experience? Are you on crack, boy? And somehow the perfect whole integer of 432 arbitrary human seconds lines up perfectly with the air??? Listen to yourself, you sound like a schizo street preacher that is convincing people of reptilians or something, you’re a holy fool
If you can’t make a song with only 4 channels and synthesized square/sine wave then you have no imagination
>>532881099>audiophileaudiophiles spend hundreds of dollars on premium cables but you cant even make out the difference when the sound gets routed through literal mud lmfao.audiophiles are the flat earthers of the music industry.
>>532881236The human central nervous system has many pathways and junctions, which each resonate with specific reference pitches depending on their physical material structure and density.The further down the body you go, the less dense those connections/junctions are. Think of a tree, it's most dense close to the ground where the biggest branches grow. Now turn it upside down, and imagine the first metre of tree is the hippocampus from which the nervous system starts to expand.Solfeggio frequencies travel along the nervous system the same way every sound does, it's a pressure wave.The brain translates sounds into electrical impulses which also travel throughout the whole body.It's just that different wavelengths resonate with different parts of the body, massaging those nerve centre points.One big redpill on this, it's not the solfeggio frequency alone that does this.Each interval, octave and chord using that reference pitch will have that effect.And you can definitely go too far with it.Retuning whole songs is based. You can use Audacity or Music Speed Changer to do that.A440 to A417 = -92,94ct so in software you put in "-0,93" semitones. A semitone is 100 cent.You can also go up "0,07" semitone, then you're still in A417 but 1 semitone up, it makes no difference to the effect of the reference pitch.
>>532881569Soulless because I haven’t bought into some complete bullshit about slowing music down to fix it? Fucking idiot, the people posting 432hz versions are using software interpolation to scale those waveforms anyway, is that somehow soulful and pure? It’s not like they have a calibrated analogue device they’re re-playing the music on at a slowed speed and re-recording it in for a pure analogue slowdown anyway, it’s just a cheap fucking software filter… there’s no soul there, moron, there’s just YouTube ad money for a grifter. You’ve been fucking had
>>532881645Hells yes. U4ia’s power.mod for life. >>532881673Solfeggio frequencies are a made up pseudoscientific thing, everything you have said is just worthless word salad. If you’re seriously going to believe that adjusting the pitch of digital audio files in audacity is doing something for your body, you should go fling yourself into traffic instead of spreading your bad ideas around
>>532877761nietzsche talked about this "dictatorship of music" which forces the masses into the same rhythm.
>>532881682>>532881812You are so angry bro you need healing frequencies ASAP
>>532881673youre making various category mistakes there which render your whole post nonsensicalmainly you should realize the term "resonate" as youre are using it is describing no known physical process
>>532881962nietzsche was a buffoon when it comes to music. go research that and it will reveal to you the truth about the past 200 years. I'll even give you a hint.
>>532881682i enjoy some tracks between 440 and 450 hz range while others in decreased frequencies, really depends on the overall key. Tracks today are too clean, IKEA-like. Grittiness and slight pitch deviation was the essence, following track would suck ass if decreased to “lower frequency”: https://youtu.be/lszvS03r_Yw?is=7uBRB7B7_taOU2Cc
Recorded music is soulless. There is no singer-audience feedback. Rave music could be left accidentally playing while that rave is being shot up by a mass shooter. The emotions of the music and the audience are completely desynced. Retail hell is full of pop music blaring. It is too loud to talk over sometimes. It discouraged conversation. The act of singing or whistling or humming is impossible when recorded music is playing in the background. Countless musical positions such as a bar musician have been replaced by recorded music, thus greatly reducing the number of musicians. Recorded music allows a small handful of corporations to control what everyone is listening to. Every decade of pop music has seen the singers and musicians become less technically talented. The current year music is a horrible form of rap which is sanitized enough to play in a corporate big box store. That is like bug music.
Almost all zoomies in retail hell listen to music on bluetooth earbuds, both to drown out the horrible pop music on the store speakers and because they are addicted to their own music/phones, and also it gives them an excuse to avoid social interaction, which is wise since social interaction is the easiest way to get fired.
>>532882171>>532882317Redpilled, music has been weaponized against vibe based beings
>>532878572>>532878785>>532880654It's not about 440 Hz or whatever, it's about equal temperament scales which completely destroyed the difference in keysthe old music was written for well temperamentquantization (what OP post talks about) is not a real problem, it's all about temperament
>>532877761Makes sense but it already started with click tracks way before that.
>>532880654>You can get a true tempered neck for guitars, the frets look squiggly but every note is perfectly in tuneThat's not true. They use a non-equal temperament, which is based on the loopy lines JS Bach wrote on the Well Tempered Clavier. https://www.guyguitars.com/truetemperament/eng/tt_techdetails.htmlThat company made guitarists kind of retarded when it comes to temperaments because they're either dishonest or retarded. I would guess they were just dumb at first then someone inevitably told them how retarded they are, but they didn't want to clear things up because they were selling anyway.
>>532878572Hug a tree dumbass :)Gaya is sad
>>532877761I’ve been thinking about something similar. Never before in history have so many people listened repeatedly to the exact same song over and over again. Even if a king had a full-time hard at his disposal and made him sing the same song every day, it would always be a little different each time. If nothing else, it would change as the ages aged. Nowadays, we all listen again and again to the EXACT same song. That level of brainwashing through repetition is new to our times.
>>532878928Acdc is pretty popularI mean they're in tune together but not tuned to 440But blues(which lead to rock) frequently uses notes btwn notes aka out of tune.
>>532881567Wait, do people think WWE is real ?
>>532877761Music doesn't matter that much
I literally just push humanize button and receive natural randomizationMost of our instruments, digital or otherwise are performed by a human still in all songs, at least on a keyboard usually. Quantizing aside, OP is a fucking retard
>>532877761>Perfectly Timed Music Paki never heard of Mozart, Bach ,Beethoven, Haydn, etc.Yeah, fucker, Musical is much older and dont follow your rules of All are cia Mossad psyop. At least be consequent and rule parts of human historische out.
>>532877761THEN HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE NEW GOLD FINGER ALBUM BEING GREAT JUST DONT LISTEN TO FUCKING CRAP MUSICLISTEN TO MUSIC FROM FORMERLY FAMOUS BANDS THAT DIDNT SELL OUT OR DIDNT SELL OUT ENOUGHI MEAN IF YOU UPLOAD YOUR ALBUM TO YOUTUBE FOR FREEAND IT GETS 100K VIEWSAND YOU USED TO BE FUCKING FAMOUSYOU CANT BE THAT BAD LOL
>>532882596I never got how those squiggly frets work, like they are more in natural tuning for some keys but other keys have to be atrocious, right ?It's just the nature of Pythagorean tuning that it can't work in all keys without extra frets/keys etc and therefore requires ET.Those microtonal shitboards have like 400 "keys" (buttons).
>>532883059Jfc you have no idea what are we talking about
>>532882950No, the point he was making is that people call wrestling fake when basically everything else in the world is fake, too. So his point was>"It's fake? Compared to what? Football? Boxing? Movies? Politics? Economics?"Essentially, if you call something fake, there needs to be something real to compare it to. And there isn't anything.
>>532882596guitarists are the most retarded of all musicians indistinctly of skillthe electric guitar world is a cargo cult specially
>>532883255>like they are more in natural tuning for some keys but other keys have to be atrociousit gives the keys character. equal temperament just neuters everythingwhy do you think all those composers wrote sets of pieces covering all major and minor keys?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_written_in_all_major_or_minor_keyswhat shit just doesn't make sense for equal temperament, because every keys sounds the same
>>532877761Listen to classical music then, rubato is a thing and the retarded older style of HIP that decided everything needed to be robotic based on shit musicology scholarship is falling out of fashion. And in general, due to the attack on string instruments, an orchestra for example is not going to be as metronomic in its rhythm as some other forms of music
>>532883655which ""shit""" musicology explains phillip glass?hit: none because schizo 21 century art takes planned ""sterile""" roboticism and elevates it
>>532883402I get the point but come on.Yes they rig the results sometimes but to say that boxing championship is just as fake as WWE ...
>>532883447>Butthurt fiddler detected
>>532877761how to spot music astrology niggers? make them do blind tests. most of them can't even hear the difference between a 128kbps mp3 and a 24bit wav file.
>>532883972Minimalism became a big deal here for a time because it was the first style of art music that America introduced and Europe imitated rather than the other way around, but these days it's just above post-tonal music in terms of actually being listened to. You're not gonna hear it programmed that often, so I wouldn't say it's that big of an issue, and harmonically adventurous tonal music has become more commonplace once again among contemporary composers
>>532884236It's exactly the same. In a boxing ring two guys are really punching each other, but the outcome is likely to be orchestrated with either fighter himself, or the judges. This is done because it's an entertainment production, but the thin veil of 'realism' outside the WWE opens the doors to a gambling operation that further incentivizes completely orchestrating the outcomes.WWE is just a real as boxing. It has guys really jumping off turnstyles, doing flips, and making contact with one another in a loosely choreographed performance whose outcome is just as scripted, but there are no bookies involved.
>>532878660This is what you listen to faggot.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/IU15R8q9Z7E
>>532884341Are there some good minimalist classical guitar pieces/composers>Inb4 ask Grok
>>532884833>WWE is just a real as boxing.Real punches, real knockouts ?
>>532881099A second is the frequency of the caesium 133 electron transition in the ground state orbital
>>532882002Resonance is the observed effect of a signal oscillating at a specific wavelength inducing a vibration of the same wavelength / cycle rate into the object it interacts with.In acoustics and music, resonance is a desired effect because for example with acoustic guitar you want the instrument to be as loud as possible, which requires as much of the material of the guitar to resonate with the vibrating strings as possible.This is not only a known physical process, it's been exploited for thousands of years and can be felt in churches every time someone (or a choir) sings melodies in the right reference pitch.>>532882508Equal temperament is a damned compromise alas.I like true temperament though, might get myself one of those necks or a finished guitar.There's also the matter of microtonal music which is even more intricate than just the 12 notes of the 8-note octave (heh).>>532883255The idea is that each note on a guitar neck is slightly out of tune EVEN IN equal temperament.The squiggles correct for that, and microtonal fretwork (they're little frets on rails you can slide around) can correct for it too.
>>532884939Real injuries happen all the time. And while the punches are 'fake' the jumps from 10 feet in the air and the body slams aren't a joke for the performers undergoing them.NFL football is as contrived as boxing and the WWE, and it doesn't have real punches. Like the other anons were pointing out, it's all kayfabe and you need to find a way to cope with that.
>>532884972you are mixing the classical notion of acoustic resonation in materials with something that happens in your nerves AFTER your ears have converted the air pressure changes into electrical pulses that don't interact with air pressure physics. category mistake
>>532884889Brouwer's the biggest name for that, and you've probably already come across him already as a guitarist; his etudes are the first things that come to mind, but I know some of his longer concert works also have minimal and aleatoric elements. Beyond that I'd look at the popular minimalist composers in general (Riley, Glass, Reich, Part, etc) and see how many of them have written things for guitar or at least had them arranged, although in the case of Reich I don't think he's written as much, if anything, for classical guitar as he has electric. Sorry I can't offer more info than that, minimalism is about as far removed from the kind of repertoire I personally listen to as you can get
>>532882596I wasn't aware that those weren't in ET.Well-temperament sings more anyway, in the right key.Besides which, Beethoven comes to mind. His fortepiano was not only tuned using 455,4hz as the reference pitch for A, it was tuned in meantone.There are a few videos on youtube showing the immense difference this makes.The raised pitch raises emotional tension in itself, and the meantone temperament introduces dissonance or fighting in specific spots which mainstream classical performances absolutely omit.To put it another way, classical performances don't do their job properly and miss half the meaning as a consequence. That's how big the difference is.>>532883447Most guitarists are brand-worshipping simps.It's all about status for them.Today a grand and brand new modern design looks exactly like it's from 1981, and guitar players genuinely go "wow that's new".I play guitar myself so I know this from personal experience, guitars haven't changed one fucking bit in the last 20 years of me ogling them and they weren't different from guitars made in 1960.Only basses moved forward really... but they're stuck in 1995.
>>532884972>The idea is that each note on a guitar neck is slightly out of tune EVEN IN equal temperament.That's true, it's called inharmonicity, but it's not that the note on the 5th fret 2nd string is out of tune by different "coefficient" or something than the note on the same string 6th fret so no need for a squiggly fret. Those "stick on" frets make more sense but it's all bullshit anyway, I mean I can hear the difference but I don't care.
>>532885248>air pressure aimed at you only interacts with your ears and does nothing with the rest of your bodyI think you're the one with the categorical oversight.
>>532877761Only a muslim would bitch about music
>>532885384lmao tell me when you can get people to discern between debussy and maluma just from sensing the air pressure in their bodyparts
Redpill: People dont like musicThe average normie sees music like drinking or smoking; Only done in groups. They don't actually like music when they're alone, they think it's weird.
I just import all my modern tracks into Audacity then run them through a de-machinize script followed by a custom and proprietary 'organicification' procedure.
>>532884939Yep, real punches and knockouts in WWE, too. Albeit the ratio is less than boxing, because wrestlers are just plain better at faking it because the perception is already out there. Plenty of examples of this. Most of the "knockouts" in boxing are just as fake, with the rare exception of someone going into business for himself. And those guys are dealt with appropriately. This isn't a case of "sure, a few fights are fixed". The entire sport is an illusion. Same with UFC. Sure, there are some fights at the low-level without a predetermined outcome simply because no one has any interest, but the participants are still cooperating to construct the match. Boxing being rigged is the least kept secret, this shouldn't be news.
>>532885552If the recording's produced in A440 ET, you're not gonna feel shit.
>>532881661the real new grift is to sell audiophile-grade mud for cable filling
>>532878660If you have a competent violinist or singer they'll be more "in tune" than any computer will be unless you're using alternative tuning mappings. That's because if you have a good musician he'll sing or play closer to a pure relative pitch than what equal temperament will get you. Also it doesn't matter worth of shit if your music is tuned to 440 ir 432 or whatever. It's all about the relations
>>532881090>Quantising analog recordings didn't thouIt kinda did though. Even though not automatic there's a fuckload you can do with just tape if you're autistic enough. Also samplers have been used for quasi quantizing since their inception
i only listen to 90's dnb so not my problem
>>532886628Quantising the cue triggers for samples is an 80s trick indeed, but going into the samples and time-correcting them was a mug's game at the time.Sequenced synth would always be quantised, but guitars and basses had to be played really tightly or the tiniest off-time play would stand apart.
>>532878785There's zero proof that frequencies cause this effect in people. It's pure and total schizoid theories.
>>532879896Nobody gives a fuck about your harmonica, stop acting like you're important, no one's falling for it.
>>532883354>Jfc you have no idea what are we talking >>you have nooooo ideeaaaa. Its about music!>>your music isnt what is meant. I meant other music. Uhm nigger i just showed you examples. Fucking retarded piece of shit.
>>532885306Thanx I'll check it out after I'm done with Sor
>>532879896based
Music that changes BPM even slightly over time is a pain in the ass to mix as a DJ unless you're using some automation or unless you're using vinyls which means you'll be adjusting it all the time anyways.
>>532877761AI can generate out of tune and off-beat music too. Checkmate nerd.
>>532888033djs are scumfuck what djs saydeath to all djsdick jackersdeceptive jewsdead jesters
>>532887536How many harmonicas did john popper eat per dayI'd guess roughly 30-40
>>532888777I'm mainly a music producer but I also like DJ'ng, what's your problem mate? Mixing music together isn't easy if you want to do it properly.
>>532877761>190 views>posted 3 hours agoWhy did OP post with UK flag when he's American?Is this bald American living in UK?>>532878742>mathematical perfection is consonantlook up dr luke and max martin - they did this stuff to perfection hence why their pop songs resonated with the entire world 2000s-2010s.
>>532878660C.P.E Bach would have called you a nigger for typing that (and he would have been right).
>>532878468this. nobody said you have to use time-snapping. i do both. sometimes i do VERY meticulous time-snapping, other times i leave it punk rock and raw and don't fix shit
>>532889189did you work as a dj at club swagga?
>>532889466No, I just like DJ'ng on my own, making live mixes for myself.
>>532888033>changes BPM slightly over timemost pre-80s music suffers from this because the analog metronomes would slow down over the length of the take. you'd have to stop the take, re-swing the metronome, and continue.
>>532878660I just want to let you know that you know nothing about how music is made
if you make music, post it. here's minehttps://youtu.be/xH9m7tJoyv4
>>532877761Music had timing before pro tools came out. And I can assure you musicians did their best to stay on time. I can't see the correlation. There's a lot of reasons we've been conditioned into slavery. The central banking system would be at the top of the list. Which ironically stated in your little shithole country.
>>532877761Vocaloid producers specifically do not perfectly tune their vocaloids to sound as human as possible because most fans prefer a bit of imperfect robot sound. So even in a form of music that is, by necessity, bound to being composed on a computer, people seek out the imperfect.
>>532877761Can you at least tell me where the good part is so I don't have to listen to fucking Captain and Tennille, you sadistic torturer?
>>532879741>nobody is plapping to rush or jazzthere is still audience for it.some people actually bring back 1980s jazz funk.made 8 months ago in france:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRLACZUY0K0
Looks like it's around 14:15 that he gets done playing faggy songs and starts to make a point.
>>532889707>Music had timing before pro tools came outi have michael jackson multitracks mastered by bruce swedien and even back then in 1982 they had some digital metronome clicking in one of the tracks already, and they also used smpte timecode to align a lot of stuff (picrel) like claps, etc
>>532878660You fucking retard, first of all literally ALL the music you listen to (except classical) is out of tune BY DESIGN, even when it's perfectly 'tuned'. That's because of equal temperament, and it's honestly insane that we use it when we have the tech to make it obsolete for any music not featuring a guitar (and even then it can be edited in). Literally every 3rd you hear in modern music is off by ~15%, and the 7ths are even worse, off 30%, so no you fucking retard, the modern music you are listening to is nowhere near 'in tune', it's just so consistently out-of-tune that you think it's normal.Second of all, musicians and producers even intentionally deviate from that. It's why analog synths with analog oscillators still exist, even though there is literally no difference in how they sound vs digital oscillators. A 'perfect' synth would have digital oscillators with analog filters, but folks still use analog oscillators because they naturally detune, making them sound more 'human'. This is especially true for vintage synths that don't have digital tuning for analog oscillators, but even modern analog synths still drift out of tune quite if they aren't retuned once the oscillators heat up. These instruments would be obsolete if modern musicians and producers valued 'perfection' as much as you believe, but they aren't, they are worth more than your car. This is to say nothing about guitars, which can be bent to hit otherwise unplayble microtunes, or are intentionally tuned 'out-of-tune', like EVH tuning his G string to be a perfect 3rd in E, rather than an ET 3rd (which actually makes it in-tune, but only in E).I don't expect a retarded ape like you understand most of what I just wrote, but I hope it motivates you to at least look it up so you don't say something so stupid in the future.
Ok, sound engineering erases the humans in a piece of music and turns said music into some machinic thing which people are then as listeners trained to expect. Music is supposed to represent the way we live in time and negotiate relations of difference. Music is reality in a way that math and logic is not. It objectifies our lived time and releases it into a public sphere as song and performance. Machines eliminate negotiation, replacing it with correction. We live in multiplicities of time, not by a single clock. Machinic music destroyed democracy. The songs are training us to believe that difference is error in need of correction. Perfect music and perfect time denies the validity of plurality. Ok? So he wants to restore human relations by enshittifying music. Making it more human. More flawed and communicative. He then requests you to send your own music to their institution so they can use it to save democracy.??Not worth 20 minutes.
It's just more leftard ops being wormy cunts and thinking they're clever for slipping in their gay memeplex polished as something to be desired. Democracy was just a trick played on the goyim to be enslaved by the jew and now we're being rapidly genocided thanks to it. Doing a gender reveal on Tyler Swift's voice isn't going to change a fucking thing about it, you fags.
>>532877761He means conditioning hylics, correct?
>>532889702i listened to stuff just like this in the mid 2000s
>>532880685>rush>prog
Guitar players are by and large massive faggot gear heads. I also play guitar but I don't give a fuck about what it's made out of or where it was built or whatever the fuck dildo pickups it has. Just tune the thing and play it you stupid ass, you're not fucking mozart and if you're playing it to impress chicks just kys
>>532892451Lol same. I miss those days.
>>532889702https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jAGbU7tt2mMI've been stuck for a few years raising my kids and working. I haven't recorded anything new in awhile
>>532877761Sloppy music is good for the soulhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=_J66PmnAH8U
>>532877761Wrong. There will always be an audience for analog and lo-fi music.
>>532877761Nobodies forcing you to quantize, and most software includes humanization features.
>>532893282>be human>use software to sound humanKEK
>>532890709they used also a japanese yamaha drum machine for claps i think, so op can blame japanese not jews for creating extreme precision in drum sequences>>532892578it's why you never made millions being a highly demanded professional musician or studio session musician.
>>532893282>humanization featureslmao, bugman
>>532877761>and conditioned to only accept "Machine Perfect"Wasn't there a scene about that in Brave New World or another classic anticipation book like it?Some "proper" citizen end up in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and the locals pulls actual instrument instead of "perfect" electronic music and the guy goes full smug at first before going into low-intensity existential crisis once he realize it's actually not bad.
>>532893497LinnDrum and a sequence multiplier, that's the drum loop (and click) source for most of the production on Thriller.The whole story's been told by Anthony Marinelli on youtube, he was the synth tech on that album.They made heavy use of the Synclavier which had a built-in sequencer and it's the first album produced using a quartz-locked tape machine as well. Most advanced production of the time.
>>532877761Lol input quantize existed way before 2001. It was all over in the 80s and 90s.
>>532895010>SynclavierI think that was Beat It (the beginning synth sound of synclavier), which was digitally recorded hence why it sounds so clean/new today. Thriller was recorded on analog tech and there's lots of rhodes electric piano heard in bg.
I wrote a Cyberpunk 2020 campaign based on this exact same premise
>>532878742>dissonance badMusically incompetent memefag detected.Go on, say more stupid shit you don't understand.
david bowie predicted this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCx7webTpuA&list=PLJB0EI207lOJY5ou491niHrrHiX9-3GM9&index=15 >>532895777nice 7s
>>532895673The Synclavier used fundamentals, teeny tiny little samples stored on disk and loaded into memory, and synthesised the sound out of them using FM.Maybe 95% of the sound was freshly generated FM, the same tech behind the Yamaha DX-7 released in 1983.The sound at the start of Beat It came from a vinyl demo of the machine. They had to reproduce it for timing / BPM and pitch control, but with the same machine, fundamental and FM algorithm, it's practically the same.
>>532895777Cyberpunk 20777
>>532878742Like the other anon said, calling dissonance bad is retarded. Any composition instructor will tell you that you need to write a balance of dissonance and consonance, and that you contextualize the dissonance in your harmonic progression in a way that it doesn't sound like shit (in most cases)
