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>Plunge the country into a war of aggression against a fortified nation with their heel planted
>Go into said war with zero clear objectives
>Have no long-term, top-level strategy for winning
>Have unrealistic demands for success
>Expect to topple the government with airstrikes (the military literally has War Colleges to prevent this mindset)
>Expect to win the war with less than 25 casualties
>Expect to win the war with no negative economic ramifications for the USA
>The operational military completes its mission with a 99% success rate
>Operational military gets blamed for not protecting the GCC bases (they didn’t know about the planned Iran strikes)
>Operational military gets blamed for not making 10,000 kg of enriched Uranium magically teleport out of Iran
>Operational military gets blamed for not annexing Iran in a ground war with 0 casualties (they have 90mil people)
>Operational military gets blamed for double-tapping an elementary school (The Pentagon/Mossad told them it was a military target)
>The mainstream media says the U.S. military “just can’t win wars”
How many times are we going to play this game? The U.S. military does exactly what its told to do with 99% success, America loses the war, and Pentagon calls it an “Operational-Level Failure.”

You think Hegseth will take responsibility for this fuckup unlike all the “Loser Generals” that he lambasts?
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>>532879549
>America loses
Not gonna happen. Hegseth is a Protestant, tactical genius. The US is winning this war.
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>>532881199
Truth.
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>>532883226
True.
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>>532881199
Ironically hes calling on God to smite trump
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>>Expect to topple thegovernmentwith airstrikes(the military literally has War Colleges to prevent this mindset)
I started war college (really,JPME part 1,and I didn't finish. I never did the joint warfare portions before I realized how retarded the military was and decided to get out, literally the moment was in TSDM when I realized this bullshit was my future if I stayed in).I don't know if that's the INTENT of the War College system (really I think it's just an excuse to give O5s and up advanced degrees to lord over other people), but it's certainly not carried out or even attempted.

We had discussions about how America could have won in Vietnam. I drafted a plan in which America would CERTAINLY have won in Vietnam. It involved invading surrounding countries,fortifying a hundreds of miles long front,and then killing a significant fraction of the Vietnamese population. The professor (retired military) told me that was unfeasible. So I replied that was a problem of the government being unwilling to use the military tools available,not a problem of the military, and that anything less than my plan would fail for various specific strategic and tactical reasons.

He admitted I was right,but still hadn't solved the problem,so we agreed the problem was unsolvable.

Iran is a problem of will, of being an illegal war imposing constraints on how much time can be applied to the war, and a problem of unclear national interests (being Israel's national interest rather than America's).

>You think Hegseth will take responsibility for this fuckup unlike all the “Loser Generals” that he lambasts?
He will. Trump will be blamed for the war overall (it IS mainly his fault), and Hegseth will leave the DOW disgraced and likely never work in government/politics again.

Ultimately the problem is Congress needs to take back the power to make war. FDR didn't start WW2 without Congress. Every war SINCE THEN where Congress didn't vote for war, has been a failure. THAT'S THE PATTERN.
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>We had discussions about how America could have won in Vietnam. I drafted a plan in which America would CERTAINLY have won in Vietnam. It involved invading surrounding countries,fortifying a hundreds of miles long front,and then killing a significant fraction of the Vietnamese population. The professor (retired military) told me that was unfeasible. So I replied that was a problem of the government being unwilling to use the military tools available,not a problem of the military, and that anything less than my plan would fail for various specific strategic and tactical reasons.
Therein lies the problem with “Hobby Wars.” If war was truly necessary, then nothing would be off limits.

If a deranged dictator decides he was gonna nuke the planet, and the only way to stop them was airstriking 10,000 nursing homes, we’d have turned 5,000 nursing homes to glass by the end of day 1.

The fact that the US heavily restricts itself in these conflicts is a self-admission that the conflict isn’t worth the squeeze and likely entirely preventable.

Even now
>We can’t invade Iran. It would be too costly.
What they’re really saying is
>Iran isn’t the psycho nuclear-weaponized nation we say it is
Because if it was, 500,000 troops is piss in the ocean compared to what is at stake.

But it’s lies. They’re lying through their teeth. They know it’s lies, and that’s why their actions betray the truth.



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