There's a 1/20 chance that it will burn up according to experts.>Charlie Camarda, a former NASA astronaut and an expert on heat shields, says NASA should never have launched Artemis II. The agency does not understand well enough the chances that the heat shield might fail, he says, and the mission, a success so far, could end with the deaths of the astronauts.>“I’m going to pray that nothing happens,” he said during an interview a few days before the launch of Artemis II.>His hunch is that there is a 95 percent chance that the astronauts will return safely. But that would mean a 1-in-20 odds of a disaster.>“NASA definitely does not have the data to show that it’s safe,” he said. “I realized that they were using the same flawed thinking and crude analysis tools, similar to Columbia, similar to Challenger.”https://archive.md/B9oiN
>>532902339>“I’m going to pray that nothing happens,”
Why would I trust the "hunch" of some faggot who had no access to the data analysis of Artemis I's heat shield?
>>532902339they arent in space and werent anywhere near the moon lol, this mission is as fake as the previous moon missions.pet nigger, tranny jewess and her two simp jews never left earth.
>>532902518>In January, Mr. Isaacman invited Dr. Olivas and Dr. Camarda to a day of technical presentations where NASA engineers explained their rationale for using the flawed heat shield.>Dr. Camarda was not convinced.>Dan Rasky, a heat shield engineer who retired from NASA in December, shares Dr. Camarda’s objection
>>532902875How much are they paying you?
>>53290233924,855mph and everyone is alive and well in the module?
>>532902339Did the nigger fix the shitter yet?
>>532902988I dont need anyone to pay me to point out that this NASA moon mission is fake and gay.
>>532903024why would they not be ?other than the heat shield failing, which is unlikely
>>532902875This. Jingling keys for people so they think tax money is spend on SCIENCE and not a Jew's 5th yacht.
rundown on the heat shield https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shcj7MUK5BU
>>532902339>a success so farlast i've heard their shitter failed twice and they were shitting in ad hoc diapers
>>532902339May they return safely. o7
>>532904009That's a lie to make this tax fraud scheme seem quirky and relatable. Same with the MS outlook lie.
>>532904150weren't some guys stuck in space for like a year because they cheaped out on clamps or bolts or something just recently?
>>532903461>Scott ManleyFuck that satanist
>>532902339>boomer retiree claims to be ahead of the curve on technical specs that hes clearly not privy toyeah someones kids haven't been calling much
>>5329029131 day is not enough to onboard for an engineer gluing lego together, let alone something thats actually sophisticated
>>532904532and the other engineer that is knowledgeable and shares his concerns?
>>532902875yeah like the Challenger drama, and each of the four dead astronauts happens to have a spitting image twin brothers and twin sister that are still alive and even active on social medai todayway too many outlandish coincidences, I can't give them the benefit of the doubt
>>532902422Things happen every day
>>532904992The other retiree, you mean
>>532903267massive amounts of cosmic radiation for 8 days
>>532904335Humans do go into low earth orbit. They haven't gone beyond that.
>>532902339>>His hunch is that there is a 95 percent chance that the astronauts will return safely. But that would mean a 1-in-20 odds of a disaster.i see they play DnD
>>532902875>>532903293>>532904150Don't forget to dilate today xisters
>>532905739this, ISS is only 400 km up, the moon 360,000 km
>>532902339crew is climbing into their re-entry suits nowLIVE streamhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3kR2KK8TEs
>>532902339>The agency does not understand well enough the chances that the heat shield might fail"Hurr durr I'm a former, bitter employee and all my colleagues are retards and the entire organization does not understand the thing it has been doing for 60 years unlike me of course."Nigger this is actual frontier exploration. There is NEVER a 100% chance you return from an expedition. There is not even a 100% chance you return alive from work today if you drive.
>>532907755If anybody wants to know, they're seeing weather over the Pacific, and Australia is visiblehttps://zoom.earth/maps/satellite/
>>532905192theres radiation shielding in the module
>>532908173they literally called him in for an opinion, so clearly he does know something they don't >this is actual frontier explorationthis is literally supposed to be a less demanding version of a trip they made multiple times
>>532908345>Hey anon can you do this thing we did 70 years ago, surely you still have all the tech just lying around right? k thanksMAGAtards...
>>532903024It's not speed that kills people but sudden deceleration (or slightly more rarely: acceleration).
>>532902339>re-entry botched>astronauts "die">sEe ThEy LiTeRaLlY cAnNoT fAkE tHaT
>a former expert that's been out the door the whole time>his hunchI mean it's better than my opinion but this is like normal shit. Basically everything has a 5% critical chance failure like dungeons and fucking dragons.I mean it's a heat shield, it's supposed to shred and blast and pop off, it's like a drag race tire.>>532902422based
>>532908516
>>532902339>some boomer saidfuck off
>>532902875I have a feeling they did go to space but only low earth orbit. I’m not sure how they could fake all of the footage shot inside the craft unless it’s all AI which I doubt.
>>532908286Telemetry and raw feedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mtZ4mN-zhw
>>532902339This tiny piece of shit made it back just fine. 6 times btwIdk how this slow piece of shit caught a ball moving 66600 mph, but it did.
All suited up for re-entryThat's gotta be terrifying
>>532908286Yep, that cyclone is gonna hit my house in about 6 hours
>>532909597>Idk how this slow piece of shit caught a ball moving 66600 mph, but it did.What does this even mean?
>>532909730Be safe, anon
>>532909597Looks like those little flashes of green and blue are disame ones the astronauts saw reflecting of the moon's soil
>>532909597>made it back 6 timesYou mean to lunar orbit rendezvous, correct?LM was disposed of after Moon surface landing.Apollo astronauts re-entered Earth atmosphere in the Command Module
>>532909988"apollo-style landing" is a great IQ filter
>>532902339>There are risks associated with space flightWow I thought it was as easy and safe as opening the Strait of Hormuz.
>>532902339When are they going to enter the atmosphere?
>>53290233990 minutes to splashdown
>>532904150NASA gets pennies compared to the handouts to boomers and niggers. In terms of fraud potential, entitlement programs and DoD dwarf its budget.
>>532910183Splashdown is scheduled for around 8:00pm Eastern time, 90 minutes from now
>>5329101831 hour 30 mins
>>53291018313 minutes prior to splashdown
Numbers and heat shield loses a brick.
>>532908516>>Hey anon can you do this thing we did 70 years ago, surely you still have all the tech just lying around right?70 years ago they uses asbestos in the heat shield.This time they decided to go all leftie pinko commie green eco woke and not use asbestos again.
>>532910355>Numbers and heat shield loses a brick.WHAT HAVE YOU DONE
>>532902339Let's face it, that's what everyone's wanted from the start.
>>532910399Che....checked
>>532902875imagine being as miserable as this person
>>532910443Space flight is really cool.But given the current geopolitical situation it would be best if they burned to death and made Trump look bad.Looking at the big picture here, Donald needs another L so he knows when to quit.
>>532910355Hey dickhead? You want to kill American astronauts? Dont drop the soap
>>532902339Fortunately it's all fake, you retarded faggots. The government has fucking UFOs you goddamn retards. The bottlerocket bs is the dummy program they launder tax money through and sell you a bullshit perception of Frontline space technology, you fucking retarded gay nigger faggot retards.
>>532902339Rolls for the boosters failing and the capsule enters the atmosphere flipped the wrong way.
>>532904380Love Scott. You're a faggot.
>>532910865Me too - he dumbs stuff down enough so that even I get it.
>>532903093So you're doing it for free?
>>532904532you're naive, he's an experienced engineer, previous heat-tile failures are well documented, it doesn't take a rocket scientist anon
>>532910355>>532910399FUGG. THEY GONNA BE CRISPY.
>>532902339They'll be safe and sound
>>532909681What if they have to pee
>>532911235>What if they have to pee
>>532910355Checked. Actually the coating is what protects from most of the heat. NASA makes tiny microscopic glass beads filled with inert gas then apply it as a coating. You can buy commercial grade stuff for like $100/gallon or buy normal paint and buy the ceramic spheres separately for $10.Not that they are in space. Big money laundering operation.
>>532902339Dude o post in /fantasypsyop and should be shut Polaris never moves no tilt no fucking solar system no Galaxy dumbass
>>532911311don't forget about the 'convex' schizophrenic anon!
>>532902339Zetetic astronomy which qualifies as a real science Artemis rocket wth no I ne it going nowhere far no n rks devons island satanic psyop staged shit ad anti Christ communist zionist vermin
>>532904009their toilet isn't working, yes. they are used to using bags tho so nothing new. the Apollo astronauts didn't use anything but bags as well.
>>532902422Praying for a psyop have a nasa needs to be shutdown everyone executed ts kultra Les earth is flat heliocentrism is satanic false religion not acience
First water recovery landing of a NASA human spacecraft since (Apollo 17) December 1972
>>532902339
>>532902875I hate faggots like you with mommy's special boy syndrome
>>532902339There is a vault retard yelstin anittes earth flat and space is fake Fatima la sallete Lourdes zeitoun assirut and warraq plus 50 million other thinfs
>>532909894>those little flashes of green and blueI believe those are artifacts from the special color video camera they used which had a spinning color filter wheel that caused fast moving objects to appear with false colors. The camera created a video signal with lower bandwidth than standard color video cameras at the time.
>>532911359>wth no I ne it going nowhere far no n rksDude are you OK?Are you having a stroke?
I have full faith of the safe return of our heroes back to Earth.
>>532911478>t. jew
>>532911500that particular flerf bot has an extremely distinct word salad posting style, and has been on /pol/ for like 8 years
>>532911424>First water recovery landing of a NASA human spacecraft since (Apollo 17) December 1972wut
>>532910085That thing survived reentry into the earth's atmosphere?
>>532911544If that makes me a kike then l'chaim I guess you giant queer
>>532911561That's a SpaceX vehicle
>>532911578>That thing survived reentry into the earth's atmosphere?Nope, that was dumped back onto the Moon once the astronauts were safely aboard the Command ModuleThis is what they survived re-entry in
>>532902339Is there a term for only watching to see if something bad happens?Ghoul Watch?Either way, I'm tuning in just to see if these people get killed.
>>532909757>NASA wants us to believe that tiny piece of shit moved 3000+ mphYea okay LOL
30 minutes to ESM separation
>>532902875So the Canadians are in on the conspiracy too? Aren't there Japanese citizens in the Artemis program? Are they in on it? When a German citizen gets a seat will your autism still stop you from listening to reason?
>>532911578>>532911690I think the apollo lander is still floating around the moon actually. EVENTUALLY it will wreck>Ascent Stage: Jettisoned into lunar orbit. Its crash site is unknown, though a 2021 study suggests it might still orbit the Moonhttps://apollo11space.com/what-happened-to-each-lunar-module/
Digits and the woman astronaut insists she can tank re-entry on her own outside the module because she’s a strong independent woman who don’t need no man.
May we see this beautiful sunrise over the west coast of Australia?
>>532911871I think this is kind of possible in kerbal if you're the cheesiest motherfucker alive. Never done it myselfhey VAOS is streaminghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4EaZeSCQJA
>>532902875I'm curious about the whole fake moon landing/fake space travel thing since I was taught the opposite of that. Where can I find more information on that?
>>532911754>NASA wants us to believe that tiny piece of shit moved 3000+ mphThe ascent module had an average acceleration of about 0.4g, or about 8 mph/sIt burned for 7 minutes, or 420 secondsv(t) = v0 + a*tv(420) = 0 + (8mph/s) * (420s)v(420) = 3360 mphAny more questions?
T MINUS 1 HOUR BROS
>>532902875this
>>532911754speed is always a non-issue in a vacuum though sudden (de-)acceleration can wreck a craft and astronauts
>>532911094No shit. Because they're in a studio.
For some reason I think someone gets a concussion from the splash down. But everyone is ok. Either concussion or neck injury,
>>532911814Oh wow, thanks anon, I didn't know thatI knew they just jettisoned it, but figured they would purposefully slow down to put it on a collision course, but I guess that might have been a waste of fuel
>>532911896
>>532912034Why did they get rid of the Saturn V’s if they were so effective?
>>532912120always angle your decoupling for more efficient delta-v, regardless of planned impact site or space debris!
>>532902875Space is so heckin’ cool!
>>532905052Sometimes our remote control toys blow up, whoops!
Since the toilet stopped working I wonder if they kept the diapers and bringing them to earth or got rid of them in space?
the flat earth, space is le fake shills are some of the oldest on 4chan
>>532902875do you spacehoax faggots also think all other sattelites are fake, including those we can see with our eyes, or is it only the moon rockets specifically and everyone including the russians and chinese are in on it and temporarily blind all their intel to not look at where artemis would supposedely be?
I would love to jettison a punch of shit and piss to incinerate in Earth's atmosphere
>>532912416space flerf truthers are either retarded or trolls. They usually don't have any sound or rational explanation for what is actually up there. What's above the crystal dome? God? I guess.
>>532912309I think they were going to use the same system as Apollo but I'm not sure
>>532902339OFFICIAL THREAD>>532912402>>532912402>>532912402
>>532912612thanks
>>532912034>What would happen at 3,350+ mph if there was a collision with say a few peanut sized pieces of debris? well to put that into perspective a glock probably fires a bullet at about 700-1,200 mph. The most high powered weapons ever made with the most high powered ammo could scrape about 3,000 mph bullet speed. So a debris bolt would hit a lot harder than the most powerful bullet ever fired. It would destroy the supposed “spacecraft” and its instruments and kill anyone inside. Just sayin’
Just placed a bet on the capsule hitting a helicopter - wish me luch
>>532912034>>532912100>
>>532912844*luck
>>532902875Based
>>532912611They're using essentially the same system.Slightly modified for female moononauts I believe.The toilet is really just a luxury.
>>532912110They could still burn up like Apollo 1.Never underestimate American incompetence.
>>532912611hmm
>>532911980Wagging the moon doggy is the best essay/moon skeptic takedown. It isnt autistic and smarmy. It convinced me. https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/moondoggie/
>>532902875Nigger
>>532902339>former NASA astronaut>former>astronautDoes he have access to technical data for Artemis? If not then he's talking out his ass.
They just threw away the European bit??
they're gonna die aren't they
>>53291372895% odds of survival
>>532902339>they lied about literally every single aspect of daily discourse>there's no way they would lie about MUHHH SPACE xDGrown ass men believing alien spaceship stories. We deserve everything that's happening to us.
>>53291401524 hours a dayevery single dayevery single hourmultiple flat earth shill threadsfor yearssame scripted talking points, memes, and shill vibes. it's not all retards and trolls, it's too regular for that. this is not organic, this is astroturfed. paid shills. that's also why everything they say is retarded, their job is to be paid retards. literally professional retards.
>>532914015just a few of the many ways to prove the earth is round, without having to trust the science.
>>532914015paid flat earth professional retards pretend not to understand how cameras or refraction work. all their related bullshit debunked in one image.
>>532914015paid flat earth professional retards pretend not to understand how gravity, vacuum, perspective, rockets, flight, etc work. all the rest of their bullshit debunked in one image.
every argument that the moon landing was faked can be debunked by just looking it up, or asking an ai if you're lazy, and getting a perfectly reasonable explanation.
>>532911814Stop with this nonsense. Mbbe they believe this shit on reddit - but it's not gonna fly here.
>>532914201Shut up
>>532910355>>532911055>>532910399Lol rip in peas spaceniggers
>>532910355Witnessed
>>532902339I think they're going to make it, their green screen work was well done so they're not coming back from orbit facing ridicule and a mass media circus.
>>532914280Explain your conspiracy then.You have like an hour until the thread slides to page 10. Too much technology came from the old space program to dismiss it entirely. Ever use duct tape? It was for ducts, on spacecraft.
Did I hear something about going to "BFS"?!
>>532914066I know you were bullied at school
I just made a splashdown from the dark side of my moon
>>532909681I can think of no cooler way to die.
>>532914685Outdoor shitter - i remember them
>>532902339It’s back
Why are they so bad at filming this shit?
>>532915177actually it's insanely good, for what it is
>>532915177they're on a boat, waves lolwhere did nasa spend their budget?
>>532915379SpaceX does it way better
Now time to go back to bombing Iran
Thank you, Hidden Figures
>>532915728Should have dropped this capsule on Iran with no parachutes
>>532902339>and an expert on heat shieldsApparently not.
>>532915782that's what boosters are for dummy
>Experts
>>532915778Kekekek
heat shields are so 1969 and its obvious the jews are gonna need kentucky cried astronauts cant have these clowns talking about the pooninites secret weapon
>>532902339Couldn't they dock the ISS, transfer to a proper shuttle and then descend? I know its a bunch of extra steps, but I feel like we have a pretty reliable process for re-entry from the ISS
>>532913728Of course. Going to space doesn't confer immortality.
>>532916133They probably don't have enough fuel on board to actually get in the same orbit as the ISS
>>532916275Correct. A free return form the moon puts you way past orbital speed at Earth. If you wanted to lighten the burden on a heat shield, it would be more efficient to just pack more fuel to slow down. But that's really expensive compared to just using a better heat shield. That's been a solved technology for decades.
>>532902875why are germans so monumentally retarded? even the United Slave States of Russia in 1969 conceded that we landed on the moon.
>>532916133They're going much to fast to be able to slow down
Next time, bring some walkie talkies or something.
>>532902518>Why would I trust the "hunch" of some faggot who had no access to the data analysis of Artemis I's heat shield?Because the Orion module is a 20-year-old project that has barely been used and anyone at NASA understands what the module is and it's drawbacks. They wanted a new module for Artemis but the Exploration Module failed in the development stage, so Orion is their fallback option.
>>532916534They can slow down. It's just a lot cheaper to slow down by aerobraking than with retrorockets.
>>532916133Docking shit is fucking difficult and also requires a lot of delta V. Theoretically it's possible but skimming the atmosphere is free breaks, no delta-v required. Docking at the ISS requires heaps more fuel, like a shit ton more.Space is hard but landing is retarded easy, aim for atmosphere with elliptical orbit if you're going in too fast
>>532904335That was the Boeing Starliner module that was designed to talk astronauts to the ISS. And yeah, it failed pretty miserably. At least no one was killed.
>532916898big fucking brain could atmosphere break and shape orbit flawlessly to hook into ISS but that would require at least 2, probably more orbital passes and all that shit takes precious fucking time where shit can go wrong.humans are still amateurs at this shit, this is the biggest furthest manned mission even if they didn't touch the moon at all.
>>532908173>"Hurr durr I'm a former, bitter employee and all my colleagues are retards and the entire organization does not understand the thing it has been doing for 60 years unlike me of course."Except this is absolutely true. NASA has been fucking retarded in the last 30 years. Their crowning achievement has been "inventing" an SLS that is basically the Space Shuttle without the shuttle. They also recycled a barely operational Orion module that was designed 20 years ago because their Exploration Module failed and couldn't be used with the SLS. And Artemis II for some fucking reason did a lunar orbit instead of testing equipment for an actual mission to the moon which will mostly be executed by SpaceX and will require Orion to do an Earth rendezvous with the SpaceX Starship which will do all the actual moon landing stuff. NASA can't into space right now.
>>532916841No they can't - they don't have the fuel. If they did they'd need more fuel to launch that fuel etc.Docking is in low Earth orbit.Aerobraking uses the atmosphere.
>>532912182because Congress wanted NASA to develop the Space Shuttle instead, due to its promise to be a rapidly reusable way to get into space(it wasn't). The whole point of Apollo was to land a man on the Moon by the end of the decade, and they already accomplished that. Sure, NASA would've loved to build a base on the moon and go on to Mars, but there was little political support after the first landings, and Apollo 13's failure didn't help things.
>>532917688>there was little political support after the first landingsWe decided to babysit niggers instead.
>>532917492>No they can'tIn case you are unaware, the capsule slows down before it lands on Earth.
>>532919838How many times did she say "Front Porch"? How many times did they say "Front Porch"?
>>532917688the space shuttle is good but they should have made it look dumber, i.e. more dildo-shaped. It sounds dumb but Elon Starship has it right with its radial symmetry. The heat tiles on it would be far easier to replace if they chose a more tubular/conical design and that was a major price pain point. It could still keep its planey crew window and wings and general plane feasability
>>532919838
>>532916133Their intial approach was like mach 37 or something like that. Atmospheric friction is the only way you're gonna realistically slow down. Maybe if we overbuild in a major way sending up far far far more fuel and weight than neccesary in a way we're likely not even currently capable of building a large enough launch vehicle for, or have a separate prior launch just to send up a separate fuel module that's docked with in low orbit before departure drastically overcomplicating the mission for no reason, and pose unnecessary risks planing an approach that allows for falling into a stable orbit without slingshotting back out once sufficient speed is lost and then doing strategic burns at key points across multiple orbits to sufficiency shed speed for docking it would be possible but there's no reason to do that. It's massive hurdles, increased resources, and unnecessary risk for no gain.
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