Do you regret the destruction of DDR yet?
>>532907089no
>>532907089Dance dance revolution
>>532907089no.
>>532907089DDR5?
>>532907089east germany best germany
>>532907122>>532907269Of course you don’t, but what about germans?
>>532907089Not even the Soviet Union took them seriously and only viewed them as an outpost. They already know that West Germany was the legitimate state especially during negotiations.
>>532907089Nope
>>532907541>>532907541>>532907541
>>532907424part of my family had to escape into West Germany after refusing to spy for the Stasi under threat of death.whatever delusional cope you have going on doesn't mean shit when the memories of the regime still exist. kys rat.
>>532907089its a example of what happens when the bad half wins and the better one loses, hopefully the good half wins in the north vs south korea divide
>>532907122>>532907269stupid wessis
>>532907763part of my family had to escape into East Germany after refusing to spy for the CIA under threat of death.whatever delusional cope you have going on doesn't mean shit when the memories of the regime still exist. kys rat.
>>532907763Many of such stories were made up by people who escapes persecution for real crimes
>>532907763How many political prisoners actually were in ddr? Looks like all of them escaped at some point so nobody left.
>>532907451neither of them where legitimate, both where outposts and puppets for foreign patrons, but one was a lesser evil then the other, also modern post soviet Russia wouldnt had the power projection/soft power capability to keep a united Germany under stasi elite as a puppet and a Germany under them would unironicly be sovereign and independent and not under US hegemony and under it total cultural and political dominance like it is today
>>532907089no east german regretted it.proof: literally nobody tried to coup and there was no armed resistance movement.
>>532908452Well it's kind of hard to do that when all the real German men and women were killed and raped to death by jewish filth 40 or so years prior.And now look at you. Legally able to fuck animals, retards, children and the same gender. What a fucking joke.
>>532907329They were right on the cutting edge of using hormones to make women pseudo-men. In every Olympics you would see these East German "women" that were all muscles and no breasts. and I hope somebody somewhere checked to make sure they were really women.
A jewish communist called Rudolfine Steindling somehow got their hands on GDR government funds after the collapse and ran away to Israel.
Kill all commies lol
>>532908452To be fair, East Germany did not have much resistance after Soviet takeover. Or West Germany after the US took charge. Or Nazi Germany when Hitler took the office. Or Weimar when they happened. Germans are just a perfect slave race - whoever is in charge is their God.
>>532907964>Memeflag with the Laktha-1 approved fantasyEvery time lmao. Kill yourself russnigger.
>>532908750Fuck, they couldn't even get German VPNs. Budget must be in the shitter.
Yes.
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>>532907763Get em!
>>532908452trying to do so in 1990 wouldve had not worked since the soviet union was collapsing and with all communist states lost both legitimacy and backing form a actual super power without talking about the demoralisation among loyalist to the eastern German regime, it would be the same as if the US where to collapse into a civil war tomorrow and balkanize and then some among the Taiwan or south Korean regime trying to make coup to try and stop unification with China/north Korea, the writing was already on the wall
>>532907089No, Because that would mean a divided Germany. My father crossed the border to west Germany around 1950, then joined the French foreign legion, fought with them in north Africa, then deserted them in combat and got to Canada. He was super happy when the wall came down. Almost cried. Then went to Germany shortly after reunification
>>532907089You can only possibly do such a commie experiment if you got ressources and even then it never worked. And East Germany didn't even have that
>>532908947political correctness is clearly a totalitarian term, not really communist. But it obviously implies that there are correct political views and incorrect, which is quite shocking if you think about it. Who decides it, important question.
>>532908947political correctness is a good thing when the things to be correct about are actually good, it is basic cultural/religious norms and traditions that every regime and civilisation in history had, stop being a reactionary/cuckservative dumb fuck just reacting to the curent things
>>532908947Hmm. Interesting. So what you're saying is we should repurpose the use of the phrase "politically correct" by enforcing it to be both factually and politically correct. Case in point:>Jews are subhuman animals, have caused untold suffering since the times of Rome, and the world will only heal when they are completely exterminated>Fascism and National Socialism is the only true way forward on any political future with any resolve for all problems, as it embraces the fundamental laws of realityMakes perfect sense to me.
>>532908582the DDR had a massive military and a huge intelligence aparatus. like every other guy was in some way working for them and they could have coup'd the failing government and prevented the BRD takeover.but they didnt, we wanted bananas and 100DM and earn money, and travel the world and reunite with family after decades. freedom felt good man.>>532908708the slave race are the slavs, thats why its called like that.also it was germans who invented the soviet union. everything you have are things you learned from us.
>>532908310I was born at the height of the Cold War grew up in the 70's and 80's and NEVER, not one time did I hear or see people breaking into ANY Warsaw Pact nation. There was no end, however, to the people I watched trying to escape from EVERY Warsaw Pact nation. NOBODY wanted anything to do with the Soviet "Empire" where everything was socialized but only the highest ranking party members had ALL the wealth and the proletariat had zero, zilch. lines to get necessities like Blue jeans, being a symbol of America and western style freedom were smuggled in to those shitholes and I am pretty sure were banned if not outright illegal
>>532909327> is a good thing when the things to be correct about are actually goodAnd who decides it? At some point slavery was good for example. The problem is we dont know what is good and after some years all the previous norms look quite barbaric.
>>532909436>but they didnt, we wanted bananas and 100DM and earn money, and travel the world and reunite with family after decades. freedom felt good manLmfao. That isn't freedom. That's self-willing indentured slavery to materialism. The flame of man, the will of man, comes first. Not stupid toys that anyone can make or break. You don't have any real freedom. You sold it away for fucking KOOL AID.
>>532909534Because you were indoctrinated by propaganda.
>>532909436Then why did you not rebel against any government of yours? You accepted anything your were goven, be it communism, capitalism, nazism or whatever you are geting now.
>>532909003east germany should have remained its own country.with a better constitution and more freedoms.
>>532907089Yes. Breakcore ruined everything. Worst than hiphop.
>>532908452Every other person in East Germany was Stasi.THAT'S why no one revolted. Biden's America was trying to mimic East Germany. With their disinformation control board, placing FBI agents at Twitter to monitor speech abut the 2020 election and covid/vaccines. Monitoring parents at school board meetings. Spying on everybody on the republican side of the aisle. calling election protesting illegal election denial, arresting lawyers who DARED to help people going after their law licences...
>>532909573the same as all laws and cultural norms are decided and each nation, civilisation, people, tribe has it way of justifying how and what it is, and without it decadence, anarchy, subversion and degeneracy run rampant and slowly poison and kill your society
>>532908329You know who the real government was by who Bush, Baker, and Gorbachev negotiated with.
>>532909580the boomers were too tired from the ddr to resist the brd bait
>>532909713>east Germany but gay and ZOGedwhat the point, might as well reunite with western side
>>532909845behavioural norms could be, you don’t want violent maniacs to run around. But political correctness restricts freedom of opinion, in other words its called censorship
>>532909534>lines to get necessities liketoilet paper not sure what happened there
>>532907089Yes.
>>532909660usually the government just crumbles on its own, peaceful revolutions are possible.>>532909802even the stasi cucks were tired of the ddr thats how shitty it was.
The ideal was to be born in East Germany and become an HVA (Stasi) officer.
>>532910014No they just don’t need toilet papers because muslims use water to wash the ass and indians don’t care at all about such things
east germany was paradise on earth but most germans prefer a soon-to-be minority white shithole with porn and mcdonalds. this just shows how unreasonable they are.
>>532907089the look on their faces. they knew it was over
>>532907763your family were pedos who wanted to work for the Kentler Project, kys rat
>>532907089OP IS A FAGGOT
>>532909949>what the pointso you dont have to descent into the clownworld with the wessis.
>>532910011and that exist and is a necessity in every society in history all had censorship including all the "liberal" regimes since their inception, no regime can stay stable and united without it and no society can stay healthy and ward of decadance without it
So basically they had a choice between; No bananas but still German or bananas but brown.
>>532909646No I just watched, You'rew probably some millennial or zoomer who, in typical fashion is full of shit but convince you are the arbiter of all knowledge. Propaganda is what you are doing. Trying to gaslight people too fucking young to remember how fucking bad it was. There is a REASON it collapsed. You eventually run out of other people's money to spend in a socialist plutocracy. America and the west were innovating and inventing. The Soviets and their sattalites were stagnated. There was NO incentive to do anythjing someone else was going to get both the money and the credit for YOUR work. No exceptions. If you pissed of someone that was a high ranking party member they disappeared you from the planet like you never existed at all.
>>532910207a gay regime wouldve had ended up in the same path as the westren part the same as Taiwan under the kmt or south Korea or Chile ended up ZOGed equally despite starting as "right wing" military dictatorships, the moment you cuck to ZOG the moment your path is sealed
>>532909534>and the proletariat had zero, zilch. lines to get necessitiesfor the most part/better times, you could get necessities such as basic food, clothing and so on. but anything but the basics often was only intermittently in supply for the proles. so there was kind of a secondary black market/mutual aid thing going on. if on a certain day it turned out the shop had, say, chocolate or tropical fruit, then that news would spread like wildfire and people would queue and get as much of it as they could. later then you'd exchange the extra products you had with others that had something you wanted.and as for the jeans and similar, the pattern would be:- something gets popular and smuggled in, and only rich people could buy it- soviets declare it un-socialist but young people - rebellious as they always are - still wear it more or less openly- soviets eventually build their own factory- later, if you were lucky, you could buy the soviet version with much trouble - it was expensive, not often available, sometimes waiting list- but the soviet version was shit in QC, overall quality, and in every aspect worse than the Western version.Of course this might've been wildly different in different soviet republics. we had it comparatively easy. in siberia or such? no chance.
>>532910569that is to say, as a prole you did have stuff beyond the basics, but only rarely, you had to be lucky, and knew how to grease hands, and it was expensive.
>>532910488I don’t say it was efficient and able to compete with the west. Even just because of scale. Or may be just as healthy food can not compete with fastfood chains. But obviously it collapsed so something was critically wrong. In any case i consider propaganda the amount of dirt that is produced regarding them. After all Stasi or not, it was the same people running themselves, and its not for us to criticise how they did it or to think that foreign government would be better and more kind than the same people to themselves.
>>532909094>political correctness is clearly a totalitarian term, not really communist.It was literally coined by Mao
>>532910569That sounds like what was being said. Every once in a while some film would get out. It wasn't like today with cell phones and cameras everywhere so it WAS rare but it was consistently dreary. The "see something, say something" shit from the US government is, in my opinion, the first step down that road.
>>532907089It's still around, but it's definitely less popular. I was easily at my fittest when I was playing DDR every day.
>>532910973>That sounds like what was being said.Well, yes. I just wanted to offer a more detailed view.>The "see something, say something" shit from the US government is, in my opinion, the first step down that road.Still far, far away... I'd be way more worried about Palantir and ever-present facial recognition surveillance cameras like ring and flock safety.If the DDR had that technology, I doubt they would've needed the surveillance apparatus with all the informants. And I think they won't need it the next time someone institutes such a regime. It'll be silent, invisible.
>>532908329Hi ashton
>>532911489sup glownigger
>>532911379you need such things if the people live worse in comparison to others, so they tend to envy and blame their social organisation for that. In fact the reasons could be different, external and temporary, like the lack of resources or sanctions and so on, tarifs, not realy related to people personally and their way of life. And you know that with time it will be fixed. So how do you preserve the society during the economic downfall if not by pursuing people who blame external circumstances on their own people? The same happens in EU now with all the internet censorship and twitter bans. The goverment just afraid that people have short term vision and exchange quick bucks for example by dealing with some rich powers for the long term stability of the society.
>>532910475If East Germany could have lasted another 10 years they’d have just as many bananas as the west.
>>532912038i doubt it. it's just like the old joke goes:- have you heard they achieved soviet revolution in the sahara?- what happened?- well, nothing for ten years. then they ran out of sand.
>>532912111*soviet -> socialist
>>532907089Yeah, it was a glorious time in Unter den Linden and Erichs Lampenladen before motherfuckers Henoch and Genschman messed it all up
>>532907424>Of course you don’t, but what about germans?>meme flagkys
>>532907424No self awareness at all for memeflag animals
>>532909949it wasn't reunification. it was quite the dirty takeover by the usual suspects. who are our landlords now and keep importing niggers.
>>532907089even the brown haired mutt knows that other guy is a kike mutt lol
>>532907089Nothing worse than commies. You hear that Vatnik swine?! Nothing!!!
>>532908002Interesting how I've never heard a story about someone fleeing West Germany into the DDR. That story gets even more interesting when you realize that the Berlin Wall was there to prevent people from escaping.
>>532919923there were a few. raf terror brigade members for instance, who fled the law. i know someone who came to marry a girl he loved in the late 60s. he had to stay in a reeducation camp for quite a while, but could keep his car. some other guy i know, son of a general, first fled to the west, where he realised he'd have to work to pay the bills and eventually decided to come back. reeducation as well and daddy general lost his position. both receive a pension now as 'persecuted by the ddr regime'. their name is jewish. their behaviour, too. in summa, nobody came for the great life east germany had to offer, except for a very few useful idiots, like communist dean reed from murrikah. life in east germany wasn't that bad, at least not during the 80s. with a some ambition and drive you could make quite a bit of money.
Why does the DDR look like Chads and West Germans look sloppy and homeless?
>end up with a stash of at least 200k of the finest AK-74s ever made>destroy them
>>532907089Don't touch that filthy unwashed hand, bros. The pinky ring means he's a faggot.
>>532921698before the left, the russians sold what they could get away with. during east german times we would swap barrels of petrol for vodka. that's us receiving the petrol. vodka for the soldiers. a few AKs made it to private hands where they still are. not much point in this though, unless one aquired a couple of ammo boxes as well. and you can't practise in the woods. too loud.
>>532922486Grandad told me you could get a tour on a soviet ship with packs of fags when they visited back in 1956. Bizarre time
>>532922704they were piss poor, particularly the soldiers, who had did service for three years. as kids we went to one of the barracks nearby to sing for the hospital ward 'inmates'. it was a shocking experience to see all those guys with shaved heads haplessly shoving their wheat grits porridge in. it stank, too. granddad probably visited a trade marine ship, as military was off limits. though who knows, a pack of western ciggis got you far. the deals we did were done by holes in the fence arond barracks. lol. good times.
>>532907763Doesn’t the government SWAT your house and gulag you for mildly criticizing the government’s mass nigger rapist invasion immigration policy?
>>532923343They do, but it is not really an issue. People do not really feel oppressed if they see that someone is doing worth economically, and germany is still the richest in europe. There is no person in the world who wouldn’t sell his freedom of opinion for money. It is basically what any job is about.
>>532907160Aye
>>532907089>current thing bad>other thing good
>>532907089one should never underestimate the potency of generational trauma
>>532923343they didn't do that back then either. if the stasi was convinced you were a questionable subject, they would do their thing unnoticed ..or pick you up at work for everyone to see. no smartphones then, nor many ordinary phone lines. we left notes on the doors of frens. my scribbled notes would be found 1:1 transscribed in stasi protocols after the fall of ddr. guy i know set an east german flag on fire when drunk. he went to jail for it. 5 year sentence. and not just any jail, the 'yellow misery' it was, a particularly bad can for political prisoners. the west bought him out after 3 years.
