LITERALLY 6% AND FALLING THIS YEAR ALONE.KEK JINPING IN SHAMBLES. WHY IS THEIR ECONOMY GOING DOWN THE TOILET BROS?
>>532915454So with one dollar now you can buy less yuan? Sounds like the value of yuan increased
>>532915454this makes chinese exports cheaper, 間抜け
>>532915454Wait, the yuan is worth more. 1 dollar is worth 6.83 yuan instead of 7.3 yuan. You're the dumbest jap ever!
>>532915454They do this on purpose how many times we gotta tell you this. They were the ones who rugged bitcoin AND gold for USD in order to stop the dollar from rising against the yuan
>>532915674You are medically stupid learn to read a graph
>>532915674They're running out of shit to sell to prop up their peg and pretty soon they're going to be selling as much oil in USD as they can because they don't want to keep buying treasuries
>>532915454Brother you ain't got a leg to stand on in this with that flag.
>>532915454So you're saying that you used to be able to buy over seven Yuan for a Dollar, and now you can only get 6.8 Yuan for a dollar?Lets say you are able to buy seven gumballs for a dollar, and a year later you can only get 6 gumballs for a dollar. Did the price of gumballs go up or down, anon?
>>532915454ANON, DID THE PRICE OF GUMBALLS GO UP, OR DID THE PRICE OF GUMBALLS GO DOWN?ANSWER ME, YOU STUPID PAJEET.
>>532915606It means the exact opposite you retard, holy shit no wonder you faggots were stupid enough to try and close your airspace. You'll join africa soon.
KEK. Yuan will worth more than USD in a decade.
>>532915606>>532915779/thread
>>532917279nigger you literally can't read the graph, just like the OP (who is probably joking).look closely at it.1 USD was worth 7.3 yuan at the start of the graph.now it's worth 6.8 yuan.that means you can get less yuan for 1 dollar.that means the value has gone up relative to the dollar.holy fuck kill yourself.
>>532915454Soon it's only going to be worth 1 per dollar and the Chinese economy will collapse. AMERICA FIRST! WINNING!
Yuan getting more expensive means Chinese imports gets more expensive.We need less Gweislop though
Oh no their things are cheaper and more affordable how will they stand it?
>>532915454>hormuz toll>yuan need more liquidity>print money>more money = less value>yuan getting cheap and attractive>more people yuan for hormuz toll
>>532915454I'm going to China in 2 weeks. I'm going to live like a king.
>>532915454nice bait japbroi bet miggers will eat this up because they are brain fucking dead
>>532922128All their food and water is poison
>>532922338I am aware of only drinking bottled water and not eating street food or small shops where food costs 5 yuan. Wish me luck.
>>532915454Japbro thinks he's posting bait but since China is an export based economy strengthening of the yuan is actually bad for their economic growth and is a problem for them.
>>532915606death to parity
Lmao. Half the board is nigger iq.
>>532922407The only food in China not poisoned is imported and thus will be expensive AF
>>532922662>Everybody here is having a laugh at an obvious joke>"Wow everyone but me is retarded"
>>532922424Some people forgot why the dollar originally fell
>>532922424Unless they have completed their industrialization and are now entering the phase of outsourcing and building up foreign assets.
>>532915454You are very smart, aren't you anon?
>>532922774Read the thread. Half the anons didn't understand OP's joke, and the other half didn't even understand that the yuan is becoming more valuable. Furthermore, I spent half the day today unsuccessfully trying to explain the difference between relative and absolute to some anons.
>>532922806Chinas greatest strength is it's factories and making gweislop. If they stopped producing that slop nobody would be buying anything from China.Every major country makes cars already, software is mostly western, planes and jets are Euro and American. Energy is Russian,European and Gulf states.What can china make besides sexdolls and cheap plastic shit that everyone else doesn't already make?
>>532922997>I am certain in my ability to tell, from text, whether someone behind the screen is an actual retard, or just having a bit of fun on the internet, the same internet where the term "troll" exists
>>532915454They want their currency to be weak against the dollar you dumb fuckin jap.
>>532923047That's not the point. The point is that export nations build up extreme surpluses in foreign currencies. And at some point, this leads them to downsize their own industries and start outsourcing production to other countries, as well as buying foreign assets. Rich people don't work themselves, just like rich countries don't. I don't think China is at that point yet, but that's just how economic cycles work.
>>532915454What you are seeing is the blowbsck on the NYSE. In reality its BRICS and nations trading yuan for oil. Capital is moving away.
>>532915454when the line goes down it means the yuan is gaining value
You know China doesn't need your money right? The world is dependant on China. This figures you mention means quite literally nothing for the Chinese. It just means China is a big player in the economy.
what a thread
>>532923172Don't be embarrassed that you haven't reached my level yet. I can also determine genetics from posts. If you work hard, you'll get there too.
>>532915454Because it's pegged to the dollar. As long as China continues some peg, if the USD loses value, so does the RMB
>>532917279Americans can't be that retarded right? This guy and OP have to be trolling.
>>532923583>Because it's pegged to the dollar. As long as China continues some peg, if the USD loses value, so does the RMBLmao
you gotta love the chinese man theyre great folk !thanks for breaking your backs for the whole world, you don't really hear people appreciate the Chinese but they quite literally, carried us all, into a state of insane common wealth luxury.Great food too, whats there to say about China. Maybe should thank them instead.
SO MUCH FOR "MUH TRADE FOR YUAN HAHA DEATH TO PETRODOLLALMAO YOU FUCKING RETARDED EUROS YOU THINK YOUR BANKS WHICH HAVE SO MUCH TO LOSE WOULD ALLOW SOME INCELS ONLINE TO CHANGE THE COURSE OF PROFITS?This is their dickslap BITCHES HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAVAVAVAHAHAHAHA
>>532915454>does nothing>keeps winninghow the fuck does he do it bros...
>>532923501>The world is dependant on China.On Chinese manufacturing. Once that is gone you don't need china for anything
>>532915454HE DOES HAVE A GOOD POINTHE'S RIGHT YOU KNOWNOW THAT THE DUST HAS SETTLEDSAY SOMETHING NICEPOWERFULREALLY MAKES YOU THINKWHAT ARE THE POLITICAL IMPLICATIONSPOLITICALLY SPEAKINGWHAT RADICALIZED YOU?INSIDER HERELET ME GUESS YOU NEED MOREAPOLOGIZEKNEELPUBLIC TRANSPORTATIONBASED OR CRINGEIS DENTISTRY A SCAMWHAT HAPPENS HERE?HOW DO YOU RESPOND WITHOUT SOUNDING MADWHAT DID HE MEAN BY THISSAY HIS NAMEWHY DO AMERICANSWHO WAS IN THE WRONGDAILY REMINDERCHINA IS COLLAPSINGI AM FORGOTTENGIVE ME ONE GOOD REASONYOU CANTWELL /POL/YOUR RESPONSEIT'S OVERPOL CAN'T REFUTE THISTHIS IS THE POST THAT KILLED /POL/POL BTFOTHOUGHTS?
>>532917279>American education
>>532923552If I had to judge people's genetics by their posts, I'd have to put my money on the people who didn't get the joke from OP's post as the mentally challenged. I mean it's literally in all caps with "KEK". If you can't see that it's a joke, internet literacy is at least being challenged
>>532923777I bet someone said exactly that about America before it became an empire.
>>532923655I believe they also have a bit of a weird commie de facto dual currency system for internal vs external use.It's an interesting setup, and perhaps the only one that can work in the face of birthrate collapse.
>>532923863Probably someone British.
>>532923863America went to shit when it lost it's manufacturing. Take a wild guess at what will happen once China loses that
>>532923340That's not what is happening here. China is in a deflationary spiral
>>532923954My point was that if you peg your currency to another currency, the exchange rate always remains the same. So that's certainly not what you meant.
>>532923972You had many fat decades for which the rest of the world paid the bills. But everything comes to an end eventually.
>>532924073>My point was that if you peg your currency to another currency, the exchange rate always remains the same.That's not what a pegged currency necessarily means. You are referring to a single form of pegged currency. For example, look up what a crawling peg is or a manage float. Of course this is just for the sake of argument, everyone knows the Chinese pegs their currency to the USD, just not in the form you are talking about.
>>532915454At least they have a lot of gold. God only knows how much gold America actually has.
>>532917279Kek, good bait.
>>532924002>China is in a deflationary spiralThis simply means that their currency becomes more valuable, making production in China more expensive. Therefore, China will become a richer country where less work is done and more is consumed.
>>532924226We paid the bills for the rest of the world. I don't why you are so threatened by this Chinsect. You wanted a higher Yuan and less factories and now you got it and competing in a saturated market.Maybe you should had done nothing and won, but instead you stopped making cheap gweislop.Oh well, stars that burn twice as bright, burn out twice as fast.
>>532915454>actively manipulate currency>can't beat the dollar freefallUSA #1
>>532924302Argentina is pegging its currency. China is devaluing its currency. That's a difference. China's devaluation has the same effect against all other currencies because it devalues them using market mechanisms. The fact that it might use the USD as a reference point is irrelevant. Switzerland also devalued its currency for a long time, using a target of 1.2 euros.
>>532924002They still have inflation.Just less inflation than USA.US dollar is crashing hard against euro, pound, gold, everything.
>>532924438>We paid the bills for the rest of the worldWith your non-existent industry? You printed tons of money and you still do, because the world pays and invests in USD and thus supports its value. The work is done in other countries while you consume.
>>532924615They have inflation this month because of the oil spike, but they are still in a deflationary environment yoy
>>532924376That's not good for an export based economy. They are not transitioning to a consumer economy
>>532924608>That's a difference.Yes there is, but they're both in the family of being pegged to a currency. When China devalues, it's done relative to the USD. That's where the "pegging" comes from, the relativity. Please look up what a crawling peg is, and you'll see that pegging allows for managed variations in exchange rates while still being considered pegging to a currency.
>>532915454Good one japanon
>>532924781What do you think will happen once China manipulates it's currency's value but has no manufacturing to back it up?Chinese Yuan is only good because their gweislop factories are shitting out plastic parts. There's nothing to back it up besides Chinsect kids working in shoe factories but like you said those are going away so now there's no reason to even use Yuan.As bad as the US dollar is, it didn't manipulate it's currency value like the Chinese Yuan did.America had software industry for years and that with banking it was able to survive somewhat without industry. but now India is taking that and it looks like China was going to try and go for that but Indians are beating them. While you destroy your industry you have nothing to trade
>>532923605My people are capable of unfathomable displays of retardation.
>>532922424Not really, there is a huge capital investment in automation and goverment that offsets the revaluation of the yuan, and its not the yuan that is become stronger, its the USD that is falling.
>>532924873>>532924919I see no indication that their deflation is due to debtors being unable to service their loans. Rather, it seems they have overproduction, which is prone to demand slumps. If I'm correct, this should regulate itself.
>>532915606This is a slide thread 1pbtid. Sixth one today just using this pic.
>>532915454>US petrodollar in jeopardy>yurocucks have no gas>Chyna in shambles>russia liquidating their workin age male populationso who's winning, where's all the big bux going then
>>532925074>What do you think will happen once China manipulates it's currency's value but has no manufacturing to back it up?China has set up their system of capital controls to prevent this.
>>532915606oh fuck yeah didn't even open the image, kek
>>532925157Whats going to happen to all those factory workers when automation takes over their jobs? Because it can't be tech jobs because AI and jeets are taking that.>>532925242>trust me bro we won't do this again we pwinky promise.If you look up gullible in the dictionary you will see a picture of your self.
>>532924941>crawling peg>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crawling_PegThere isn't even a German word for that. But fine, if you also call it pegging, I give up.
>>532915454Why are Americans so uneducated?
>>532915454>changs first economic cycle >>532918309zoom out my dear rape victims
>>532915454They control the value of the yuan. They're facing a deflationary spiral as prices in the West rise, making them need to cut prices to stay competitive making they devalue the currency more. Death spiral.
>>532925074China’s currency isn’t “only valuable because of factories.” The yuan is backed by the size of China’s economy, its massive trade volume, foreign reserves, and government policy not just manufacturing. Even if manufacturing shifts over time, China still has tech, infrastructure, finance, and a huge domestic market.Also, saying the US “doesn’t manipulate its currency” isn’t true. The Federal Reserve influences the dollar all the time through interest rates and monetary policy. China manages its currency more directly, but both countries affect their currencies it’s not some unique flaw.And the idea that China has “nothing else” or that India is just replacing it doesn’t hold up. India is strong in software services, sure, but China is still dominant in manufacturing, hardware, and supply chains. They’re not interchangeable.As countries get richer, they move away from low-wage, labor-intensive work or "Chinsect kids working in shoe factories" and into higher-value industries. China is already doing that with electronics, EVs, automation, and more advanced manufacturing. The low-end stuff (like basic assembly or textiles) shifting to places like Vietnam or Bangladesh is expected.Economies don’t collapse just because one sector changes. Countries trade services, technology, and capital too not just physical goods. If anything, outsourcing low-tech jobs usually means a country is moving up, not collapsing.
>>532915454The thing about China is because they have created multiple demographic crises because of their social engineering experiments the effects of reduced birth rate and delayed relationships that are affecting the West and the entire world will also affect China but they will affect China way more disastrously. In the West these effects are manifesting in a gradual and delayed fashion over a long period of time whereas in China because they have very weird demographic distributions this shit is going to hit them like slamming into a brick wall. That's what you get for all your Maoist experiments, you stupid insects.
>>532925538>China is already doing that with electronics, EVs, automation, and more advanced manufacturingThese are already saturated and competitive markets, USA, Japan,SK India , many countries in SEA and the EU is already very entrenched in those technologies. China is trading cheap manufacturing and something it dominated in for an industry that is already many countries deep into. Also those high tech jobs are very niche themselves, you can't really expect billions of Chinese to get into jobs that are already difficult for westerners to get because there isn't enough jobs as it is.
>>532925521China does manage its currency, but it’s not a free ‘devalue forever’ button. They’re dealing with weak demand, not a full deflationary spiral. And relying on constant devaluation would actually backfire higher import costs, capital flight, and trade pushback. It’s a problem, but not a ‘death spiral.To fix this, China is already easing policy cutting rates, increasing spending, supporting housing and markets. The issue isn’t that they’re doing nothing; it’s that they’re deliberately going slow to avoid financial risks. That’s not a death spiral it’s controlled stabilization.
>>532925836Those sectors aren’t saturated they’re still growing globally. And China isn’t entering them late; it already dominates large parts of the supply chain, especially in EVs and batteries. They’re not abandoning cheap manufacturing either, just moving up the value chain. The issue isn’t that China can’t compete it’s that it can produce too much. That’s why the US and EU are reacting with tariffs and investigations. We’ve already seen this with solar. China scaled so hard it wiped out competitors.It’s true high-tech jobs alone won’t employ everyone, but these industries create entire ecosystems, not just elite roles. The real issue for China isn’t competition but it's weak domestic demand, not a lack of viable industries.
>>532925863People often forget how stable and, above all, cautious especially the brilliant zhou xiaochuan made the chinese monetary system. It never fell for the traps of foreign debt like other asian countries.
>>532915674Doesn’t it just mean that China is trading less and more domestically supported?China makes so much money and has such dramatic strategic production advantage, literally all that matters is:1) basic energy security 2) cost of living domestically3) technological prowess at least near enough in parity to the west
>>532915454Now it's even cheaper to move factories there. Deflation in China is good for the rest of the world.
Image search this thread was posted already
>>532926099It’s amazing that no economists in the world are actually trying to solve the very basic math/engineering problem of sustainable demand. Of beneficial deflationary growth that doesn’t crash thee financial system.I was studying this and I’ll tell you the last time anything close to a solution was being explored was 2014. Maybe there was that Agenda 2030 energy sucking the air out of the room.
>>532926099The fact is, there is A LOT of room to optimize everything. You just need someone who can smash his iron fist to the table and make everyone comply with his decisions. This doesn't work on feminine (western) societies. Xi Jinping's government achieved it, that's why others literally can't compete with China. Free market can't compete with communism in productivity
>>532928204The west doesn’t actually have a free market
>>532927608>It’s amazing that no economists in the world are actually trying to solve the very basic math/engineering problem of sustainable demand. Of beneficial deflationary growth that doesn’t crash thee financial system.This has been solved by faggot keynes and later Satoshi Nakamoto, faggot keynes solved it but fucked up, at bretton woods he proposed the bancor basically a proof of stake cryptocurrency with the world bank and imf acting as the staking pool, and satoshi nakamoto via proof of work.Basically the solution to the whole "deflationary collapse from tech" was always inflate against a global currency with scarce demand and divide national currency from saving currency, a previous implementation of such system also happened in the byzantine empire with anastasius dicorus.So anastasius dicorus solved it and the bretton woods era system also solved it tough with the larp gold standard.The advantage of such system is that you can stimulate via fiat while private sector and nations can also save via hard currency thus counteracting deflationary tendencies while also not destroying capital accumulation.Sadly most keynsians are even more faggots than keynes and they listen to keynes with the gibsmedat for their gov larp jobs but not when the faggot at bretton woods proposed a hard currency base layer.
