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triton status?
NEVER FORGET
This shit is getting boring, bring the war back
>>532917454its fucking 4 am wtf I go sleep
>>532917392
The sea mines laid by the Iraninans are said to have lost them and dont have the capacity to find them.:lookner
>>532917376did it get hit? thats hilarious.
>>532917376> 200M USDThe fuck, that's like 2 F-35. Why its so expensive? its a drone, it doesnt have to comply with safety shit like an airplane does
>>532917449Unironically Austrialia's greatest contribution to the Gulf Liberation War.
>>532917300This thread is being filmed and recorded. Everything you say, hesitate on, or try not to say will be noted.Just keep it cool guys, you're not under oath. No one is forcing you to be here. We're just talking.Essentially you've already agreed to this so just take your time. Silence says plenty on its own.
>>532917495Rest little tugboat
>>532917511that's a big oopsie
whoops, lost the keys haha
>>532917376Hormuz triangle
>>532917520sits way high up out of sight with satelite imaging almost. id be impressed if something struck it.
>>532917572bit more context
>>532917555checked
>>532917533the strait images will make me laugh for a long time.
>>532917129>Only until the sandniggers build a pipeline to the Red SeaAll that will do is lead Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, and Iraq to depend on and risk being blackmailed by Saudi Arabia instead of Iran. I know Qatar and Kuwait would far rather deal with Iran.
al jazeera be like we interrupt this interview with a respected iranian official for breaking news - AMERICA WENT TO THE MOON WOW AND THEY HAD A LEAF THAT'S BASICALLY ONE OF US, WHAT AN EPIC DAY FOR HUMANITY - go ahead mr. alireza rezareza ali, you were saying something about the fall of the american empire?
>>532917572>>532917511>>532917555that's what they meant by "technical limitations"
>>532917572so clumsy
>>532917624
>>532917656whats the worst thing to happen? gulf states eat another L? price im willing to take.
>>532917652lol
US and Iran deal needs to happen desu, it isolates Israel if it does, they won't be able to go after Turkey even if Trump pulls out of NATO, not a chance will auS join that war on Israels side, the last thing it wasnt is to be sucked into another ME war especially with a new agreement with Iran. Bibi's gamble and 40 year dream fails if US make a deal
What's Pakistan even going to be discussing in the meeting?
>>532917738>it isolates Israel if it doesThat was my argument for being in favor of the Gaza deal. Israel does NOT want peace.
>>532917706how many minesweepers do they have?
>>532917515>>532917533Thx
I thought the war was over? Why are my stocks still down?
>>532917706can you recite the location of every naval mine you've laid offhand? Have some patience
>>532917772they're just happy to be there :)
The only thing that can restore trust in the US as a sane, responsible, and investable country and mitigate some of the economic damage is Trump's removal from office and reforms made to ensure we can never get a President like this again.
>I can't pass
>>532917826what are you people doing to do when Trump is out of office? I think you'll go through TDS withdraw.
>>532917778idk, how many qadr lunchers do they have?
>>532917772Reminds me of my favourite pic of this war so far
>>532917773>>532917738Even if they make a deal, there's nothing to stop Israel invading all its neighbours and causing all manner of chaos and death
>israel rejects talks with hezbollah, confirms direct lebanon-israel talks on tuesdayhistoric
Hormussy status?
>>532917520Because America no longer makes weapons. It makes PowerPoint presentation set pieces.There's a reason why people are pivoting to Korean and Polish weapons.A weapon you can't afford to lose might as well not exist.
>>532917778think all mines nowadays give off some kind of signal.
>>532917624I mean, doesn't this always happen with mines? They drift, a GPS tracker if present goes out, etc, etc.
>>532917724Iran could stall indefinitely after a ceasefire and chok the strait, killing billions of Indians and subsaharan africansworst case scenario is that they don't dothat
>>532917738>US and Iran deal needs to happen desu, it isolates Israel if it does,It CANNOT happen because of that. The US is the vassal. It has no independent foreign policy. Israel will veto any efforts at peace by simply airstriking Iran again. That's if the peace talks get past the lobby in Washington which they won't.This is all a distraction to allow insiders to rattle the stock markets for fun and profit. There are no peace talks. Anyone surprised by the Iranian delegation getting airstruck before Monday needs to lurk for 5 years before posting again.
>>532917772just mediators, I can imagine Witkoff saying something arrogant and offensive that will make them have to intervene and cool the room down to keep the negotiations.
>>532917915the fuck would they even demand? iran should tell them to fuck off.
>>532917881>qadrs for mine detectionare you ok?
>>532917572OOPS
>>532917915>China rejects talks with Taiwan, confirms they'll talk to North Korea to resolve Taiwan conflict instead
>>532917880This loss and inevitable humiliating defeat are worse than anything my dumbass aunt was kvetching about in 2015.
>>532917905And who is going to help Israel in that scenario? It won't last a day
>>532917990how many Khorramshahrs do they have?
>>532917984apparently neither iran nor hezbollah will be at the talksthis is a massive change from the status quo where hezbollah always vetoed direct talks between lebanon and israeleven if nothing comes of it, the loss of hezbollah's veto is a historic change
>>532918016Actually the more accurate comparison would be >US rejects talks with North Korea, confirms they'll talk to South Korea instead >>532918031go away retard
Vance still 4.5 hours from touch down in Pakistan
So we all agree, we have a deal that will bring peace and prosperity to the Middle East. We'll put everything in the past behind us, all the problems, all the chaos, the Ayatollah, whatever happened there
Fuck Israel
>>532917880They just latch onto the next Republican.and whine about how at least Trump was a moderate compared to whatever they next complain about.
>>532917772They are there just so they could boast about it against Indians kek
>>532917990how many Hadid-110s do they have?
>>532918069the US obviously and then it's back to square 1. you can't make a deal with a state whose decision making process is wrapped around Bibi's finger.
>>532918103I just don't see them having meltdowns over Vance. He's too calm and able to explain himself well that they'll just go through withdraw and need mental healthcare.
>>532917990how many Khordads do they have?
I WANT TO FUCK LOOKNER IN THE ASS
>>532917511>>532917555>>532917572>>532917624imagine removing your minesweepers patrolling the gulf to be scrapped then starting a war in the very same region weeks later.....https://www.twz.com/sea/navys-avenger-class-mine-hunters-have-left-the-middle-east-for-good
TOTAL IRANIAN VICTORY
just by going to the negotiating tableIran has Lostthere is no winning from herethey've been bombed to SHIT ofr over 5 weeks straight, and now they have no choice but to negotiateit'sIRANOVER
>>532917772Christ! Kushner and Witkoff are still there?! This is farce. Bad enough Vance was sent over. But these two. Again? And the Centcom guy is the cherry on top the shit sandwich.It's not a diplomatic delegation. It's an Israeli insult. Nothing is coming of this. Shambolic, just shambolic.
>>532918148Why would I be mad about Ford 2.0?
>>532917542Death for the jews
>>532918197>2023r u guise being purposely gay?
>>532918197>2023why is your discord like this
Can someone less retarded than me explain to me how minesweepers work
>>532918016>israel rejects talks with hezbollah,>China rejects talks with Taiwan, I'm with you so far>confirms direct lebanon-israel talks on tuesday>confirms they'll talk to North Korea to resolve Taiwan conflict insteadhow does this work, metaphorically speaking?is north korea to taiwan : lebanon to lebanon?please clarify
>>532918248boat just tanks it
>>532917807Skill issue. Mine are all green.
>>532918248you click a button and hope it doesn't assplodesometimes you right click a button for funny icons
>>532917946>This is all a distraction to allow insiders to rattle the stock markets for fun and profit.Sad but true.
>>532917880They called george w buch a nazi they do it for the next red team president
>>532918235I can't believe hezbollah is using child soldiers again, disgusting
>>532918220how should I know, you'll find something
>>532917815I'm gonna break this down slowly (and without lube)Imagine, and i know this might be tough to think about, imagine if Iran didn't mine the strait at all. And this was some weird far reaching cope. Ships are somehow able to move between the strait at irans behest and yet we are told its mined up and the ships are at risk? Iran can somehow garuntee their safe passage if they pay the toll but not because there's unknown mines? There are no unknown mines gaylordYou are a dumb gorilla nigger
>>532918248https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3T5ZmuO_i8
>>532918084chances that vance u-turns and the israelis bomb the delegation?
>>532918248Each square can have a number, and that number represents the number of bombs in the adjacent squares. If you press a square with a bomb, you die. If you think a bomb is in a square, you place a flag on it.
>>532917826
>>532918218They have to get something. The Iranian negotiating position will never be as weak as it is now. Basically, Vance, in addition to Kushner and Witkoff being actively detrimental, must commit political seppuku to get a humiliating peace that's worse than status quo ante, the Iran Deal, or what dumb and dumber fucked up in February. His political career and presidential ambitions are over if he does what's necessary to stop the economy from melting down for lack of oil, fertilizer, etc.
>>532917921Kek. Took me a second
>>532917800I'm late to the party. Does someone have the original? Just the original face on the Strait.
>>532918248you send a small jam boy out into the strait with snorkel and flippers and you strap a bunch of magnets to him and let him have a jolly old time
>>532918332This is a 30 yr old american
>>532918327>I'm so triggered right now, I miss when we had cool headed moderates like trump in office. but he's just too busy golfing with obama to save america from literal erwimarco rubiommel
>>532918440I have saved all my creations
>>532918248You take a boat with a special nonmagnetic hull, MAD arrays, sonars, etc and put it on a a very tedious search route to find naval mines and neutralize them
>>532918354kek
>>532917826>reforms made to ensure we can never get a President like this again."reforms". Right.
>>532918509>Jeb! ? More like Jeb. Amirite fellow liberals
Its crazy... after all time, the mortal enemy of the Jews is still the Aryans
>>5329179212 SHIPSSHIPS
>>532917572whoops haha
>>532918079odd or not it seems america has had enough. iran has to much power so israel is liekly going to begin acting like a beaten dog. guess smotich son will live in infamy with a colostomy bag and nothing to gain from it.
>>532918254"Lebanon" is a geographic expression with no political power center. The "Lebanese government" that Israel is talking to is more of a platonic ideal than a legitimate state entity. It has no authority to enforce any decisions or agreements, literally the number one requirement for state legitimacy. The only two entities that have that power in Lebanon are (1) Hezbollah and (2) the Lebanese army, which is sympathetic to Hezbollah and has been refusing to disarm them against the government's orders since 2006. Refusing to negotiate with those real power centers and instead talking to a powerless and symbolic apparatus that is infested with your spies and agents is just a PR move to show the world you're striving for peace. I hope it's clearer now.
>>532917815Patience? Ships that pay the toll sail right on through. Why would mine removal only be required?
>>532918533Thanks anon
>>532917300Nigger
>USA: going to the moon and back perfectly (besides the toilet)>Israel: burning olive trees of their neighbors because of 2000 year old butthurt we need to kick out the rouge nation
>>532918668Please, don't. I'm gonna miss the cute girls.
>>532918533
>>532918565AIPAC should be banned, yes.
>>532918575Almost like it's all just a pretold simulation. The atheists are the biggest brainlets somehow (brainless cattle), the Abrahamic faithful are a close second (faithful cattle) and the ones trying to ascend are realizing how doomed the situation is (bitter and resentful) and the ones above have forgiven all transgressions (big dick chads)
>>532918719
>>532918894When's the wedding?
>>532918404What are you talking about? US politicians careers? What relevance has that?Look at Lebanon. An entire political system that exists only to humiliate their own country and facilitate Israeli expansion. What makes you think Washington is any different?Vance is a joke. A meme. Kushner and Witkoff are New York jobbers for the Tel Aviv head office. None of them have ANY diplomatic experience or training. They are being sent over TO humiliate and BE humiliated. Continued demoralization and destabilization of the US political system is AT LEAST as important to the Israeli war effort as continuing the kinetic conflict with Iran.You're not dealing with 5d chess players. You're dealing with brazen settler thugs from the West Bank who spent their prime years setting fire to Palestinian farms. What do you think they think about you and your political system? How do you think they've learned to treat their second class citizens?
MARS IS OURS, YOU CAN HAVE THE HORMUSSY
>>532918719> mined mode
>>532918641>The "Lebanese government" that Israel is talking to is more of a platonic ideal than a legitimate state entity. It has no authority to enforce any decisions or agreements,good pointthat makes the tuesday talks a historic change. you could say meetings like this are the kind of stuff legitimacy is made of.>Refusing to negotiate with those real power centers and instead talking to a powerless and symbolic apparatusyou agree that hezbollah previously vetoed such talks, while israel had nothing against them in principle.hezbollah has lost its veto power.cooperation between israel and the lebanese army would upend the status quo which you described. I shouldn't say would. it will. the talks are on tuesday. just putting them on the calendar is an unprecedented loss for hezbollah.
>>532918565Did they seriously represent America with a pentagram?>>532918444Checked, thank you for the detailed and accurate explanation
>>532918951>worthless radioactive shitholeYou can have it, Dolan.
>>532918963Behind close doors, they laugh at how far they can push it and still get away with it.
>>532918963the great seal contains a hexagram made of pentagrams
>>532917376They claim replacement cost is $600 million.
>>532919040>>5329190673 Canadian schizos in one thread, 2 too many, are you both unvaxxed?
>>532917602It's the CENTCOM triangle.
This may sound selfish, but I hope talks fall through and we go back to war kino
>>532919151it may sound selfish but its the best outcome long term.
Chili status?
>>532917376GOES MISSING HAHHAHHAHAHAA IT WAS PROBABLY HACKED LIKE THE RO-170 SENTINEL THE IRANIANS HACKED BACK IN 2011 hahahahahahahhahahahhaahahahhahahahahahbahahahahahaha
>>532919151Same
keep me updated bros oil will pump straight back to $100+ the moment this shit passes without resolution
>>532919195>RQ-170***
>>532917624The story is total bullshit.The US political system making up endless excuses for why the strait cannot be reopened. Hopeless, deliberately obvious bullshit spin to keep the population confused and demoralized.
>>532919131Its not schizo, its just noticing what they don't want you to notice.
>>532919180Iran has every reason to make this last as long as possible, and Trump’s ego vs. whatever pressure Israel has on him will make him keep impotently doubling down until there’s nothing left of him
>>532919151>>532919180You both misunderstand the Persian national character: they are the most quibling, scholastic fuckers besides the jews but unlike the jews, who want toflim flam quick complaince, the persiansjust want to waste your timedecades if they have too
>>532919224How is the Red Sea Strait relevant to /pig/?
>>532919151> I hope talks fall through and we go back to war kinothis should be the only line in the pakistan agreement.america and iran should write this down, sign it, congratulate pakistan on finding such a beautifully simple common ground when nobody believed it could be done, then head our merry ways and get back to business
>>532917624Hormuz letter is an israeli account. Dismiss
>>532919276>The US political system making up endless excuses for why the strait cannot be reopened. Hopeless, deliberately obvious bullshit spin to keep the population confused and demoralized.You are probably right. The only reason I even entertained the possibiltiy is because of Araghchi's earlier comment
>>532918954>cooperation between israel and the lebanese army would upend the status quo which you described.The Lebanese Army does not answer to the Lebanese government. They're their own independent institution and they're deeply antagonistic to Israel. They received orders to disarm Hezbollah in 2006 and they're still refusing to do it. They're not gonna do it simply over another strongly worded letter from Beirut
>>532919339Houthi back up once their battlepass ends
>>532919339Houtis are Iranian proxis.
—// NEW: Pakistan has released a list of names from the Iranian delegationIt consists of 86 officials, experts, and media personnel.Some important names that are attending, which weren’t mentioned in media extensively, are Baqeri Kani, deputy of the SNSC, and Mohammad Nabavian, a notoriously conservative MP.Overall, this is a VERY heavy delegation which carries a lot of authority and expertise.
>>532919387always pops me
welp...
>>532919339
>>532919417You start in the corners
>>532917974its more likely they are acting as human shields
>>532919299I asked you a question nigger, did you get vaxxed or not
>>532919377understood, but pressure is mounting in that direction, both diplomatic and violent.nothing would change if hezbollah could exercise its veto. they've lost the political capital to prevent something that's very important for them to prevent.
>>532919387Do the flapping dicky
>>532919459you sound like a nigger
>>532919330And moral-fags. One Iranian friend was every time trying to school me how “marijuana” steals your “angry” energy he used a word in Persian “Aasab” which did not mean anger as we see it, but more the anger that helps you achieve things.
>>532919404Damn, they’re going to get bombed.
>>532919527Honestly I'm just drunk and ornery, this war has been terrible for my mental health so I pick random fights in /pig/ threads
>>532919530motivationfrom latin movere "to move"
> The Pope's renewed criticism of US leaders: God certainly does not stand with those who drop bombs on people>The leader of the world's Catholics: No reason can justify the shedding of innocent blood. God does not bless any military conflict.>Anyone who follows Christ never stands with those who yesterday drew swords and today drop bombs.Someone needs to tell the Pope that kikes killed Jesus and they dont care about other goys.
>>532919530Thumos would be the greekdo they still not drink?
So its pretty clear that right now everyone and their grandma is doing underground research on nukes after the Iran war, right? >>532919455checked and yes, make sense
>>532919607Hezbollah is like a state within a state. Imagine Texas, but it doesn't have borders and Texans are everywhere.
>>532919625I hope your mental health recovers desu. don't drink too much
>>532919696America is not Even catholic, they don't care what the pope says
>>532917300Arararararagi
>>532919607It's like the cartels are to Mexico. instead of purely drug dealing they have a religious aspect to them.
>>532919712Yea it’s still prohibited but they have bootleggers selling booze secretly.
>>532919733In function it is the actual government the way the cartels in mexico are
>>532918943you just dont get that new york real estate jews are the best negotiators america has. the diplomatic corp is delusional nepobaby retards. and why shouldnt we send a real estate agent to negotiate the purchase of our new territory? you are right that the goal is humiliation, but you misunderstand who is being humiliated.
why do jannies let these threads exist, its clearly a shill op against trump
>>532919713If they aren't, they deserve it. That goes double for Turkey because it's obvious they are next up if Iran falls.
Why don't countries WIN wars anymore? Its always ceasefires, or truces, or whatever and both sides claim victory and spend the next decade online arguing who won.
Tucker's interview of Steve Sweeney was very good if you haven't watched it already.If you finished watching it and want to know what speech he gave that got him arrested in Britain, here it is:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvUw3s7dXE0
>>532919808a shame, the used to be famous for debating important decisions sober and drunk>hicccc fuggit lezjuz gezza nuges>i love you ayapolulla
>>532919854/pig/ is a place for scholarly discussion and gentlemanly bantzthere are pro and anti trump anons here, we don't need a split safe space generals
>>532919883WW2 changed everything. no one wants to go to full total war
>>532919224
>>532919638I thought about motivation he said no, It’s like the necessary nerve that make you do things. It’s hard to translate in english. It’s not solely motivation, but also the energy that moves the motivation. You can be motivated and still not accomplish your shit to completion.
>>532919851counterpoint: the more trump focuses on monuments and symbolism is then less he can fuck up everything else
>>532919786American Christians are now by the evangelikikes fake Christians
>>532919607Lebanon is a mostly failed state whose institutions army included are wholly insufficient to withstand military or diplomatic pressure from Israel. That's just the portions that haven't simply been bought off and operate mostly out of the US embassy to begin with.Hezbollah is a shia faction in Lebanon back financially and militarily by Iran. Best described as a state within a failed state. They have their own army, quasi-civil service, probably banking system, as well as regular politicians. One of their core arguments is that the Lebanese state is so weak/complicit with Israel that it can't or won't defend its own citizens, especially the population of South Lebanon whose land Israel most wants to annex. Iran's support has built up Hezbollah into a massive guerilla / missile force in Lebanon, perhaps up to 100,000 soldiers, complete with 100,000s of rockets in underground cities. The IDF is likely no longer able to dislodge them without US ground support.Israeli/US position: Herp derp muh teririosisms!
>>532919771I appreciate the sentiment, I doubt i will though, it's been a long downhill road since covid. Financially I'm fine cause im good at one thing that pays well. which is more than most can say in this dumpster fire of an economy but that's not a relatable problem for many and I'm not asking for sympathy either. Good luck to you too anyway
>>532919883Pareto principle. 20% effort/resources gets you 80% of the way there but each additional degree of completion requires an exponential increase in marginal effort.
>>532919869ok ill do my part. just go this on the mail today
>the "Vance is anti-war despite advocating for war" psyop is still ongoinggrim
>>532919908Then the underground missile bases would be built crooked…
>>532920006Either way he's wasting your moneyAlso there's always some angle where the Jews are doing it to humiliate you, it'll probably have a map of Israel on it facing the cemetery, you just know he'll allow it
>>532920021Thank you. It's tough times for sure, but try to keep the faith anon
>>532919786>More Americans are joining the Catholic Church than leaving for the first time in decades. 2026 data shows significant spikes
>>532919798You stuttered
>>532919900I just finished it, it was honestly great until he put on the "Russia a gud boi, he dindu nuffin" act. I would've respected it more if he just said that he flatly ideologically opposes the West and that's why he turned to Russia.
>>532919910this is clearly an anti-trump pro iran thread thus should be banned, how hard is that to understand? Shills aren't organic posters and should be removed
>>532919851>the diplomatic corp is delusional nepobaby retards.And why do you think that is?How far do you think any American negotiator is going to be allowed to go in the middle east without an Israeli sign-off? You think sending real estate agents shows a position of strength? Do you have any idea how demoralized you've already become?
>>532917900it's disgusting how Pakistanis let their military just topple their government and then kill them by the dozens for storming an embassy
>>532919404Is Tucker there?
>>532918646Because tolls or not, insurance companies don't like that
>>532920157Those are mostly latin@s, i am talking about Heritage americans that descend directly from the English settlers
>>532919900for a moment i read Sydney Sweeney kek
>>532920195Maybe if they didn't censor him in the west he wouldn't say that. So you can't blame him. He also didn't say Russia is perfect. People criticize Putin in Russia all the time, but they're allow to.
>>532917572>>532917624>Per US official
>>532920148I'm a historian before I'm an Americanat least we're fucked in an interesting wayI had so feared slow decline
>>532920274he came pretty close to saying thateven if i totally agree UK is a totalitarian shithole
>>532918951https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LEf2ykgUrWI
>>532919851>but you misunderstand who is being humiliated.Iran have flat out said they don't trust the real estate retards. Not only that, but the real estate retards didn't even understand what Iran was offering before.
>>532920199stop falseflagging groypertard
>>532920393The UK arrested what, 2000 people last year, for online hate speech? Brezhnev arrested something like 2000 over his entire administration.
Artemis2 was shot down splashed in the pacific rescue ongoing
>>532920504I'm not a fucking groyper, retard. When was the last time the OP had a pro-trump image?
>>532920452>suspended cables Im tired of jewish tricks.
>>532920570Probably before he lost
>>532920570the last time I baked
>>532920570God, you're so pathetic.
>>532920018>>532919786Catholics are by far the biggest religious denomination in the US. Problem is there are a million 'Christian' denominations that all just pick and choose whatever the fuck their leanings are, and it's mostly done by former drug addicts and convict 'ministers' who were born again in prison.
Do you guys think this is the best Iran can do in a war or you think we didn’t managed to see their best toys in action? From what i saw they still have a lot of drone variants that they didn’t use. I still don’t think this ceasefire will stick but i have mixed feelings about Irans performance in this 4 week war.
>>532920570browns/muslims/lefties have extremely fragile egosreality will dawn on them soon enough
>>532919402>>532919394What's up with them anyway? They formally joined in the war, but for the life of me I don't remember hearing anything related to them since.
>>532920641Well then can you bake more often? Don't you realize the midterms are coming? Letting shills get a foothold on current events is not a good thing.
>>532920361As a lover of tradition and symbolism it is such a waste, it could've been unique but it's going to be yet another copy paste from some tourist instead of building something out of local sandstone that means something and lasts forever, yet another temple to hubris and materialism
>>532919851this monument to document the iran loss ?
>>532920733stop falseflagging and go outside
>>532920723Waiting to be asked to overthrow the house of saud
>>532920522
>>532920274I agree with him on the point of press freedom. UK and Europe at large are tinpot shitholes. It's more that whenever Israel's invasions are the topic, he constantly repeated how they're colonialist and imperialist and have no possible justification, but when Russia's invasion comes up it's legitimate defense or meant to protect the people of Donbas from Azov terrorists, or what have you.I think you can rationally believe Russia is justified and Israel isn't, if you ideologically support Russia and oppose the West. But you can't really use humanitarian or international law grounds to back your claim which is what he did.
A nice thought is that regardless of how the negotiations go, Iran has pretty much already won. They can hold the strait and their own oil again and other countries are throwing money at them they once sanctioned. Iran is coming out of this with fat stacks and that's even despite the economic collapse we're headed to. They'll be able to rebuild, get a nuke, and then build some of the best weapons with Russia and China as aids. With US decline, they'll be able to take out Israel eventually. They've overturned the control of the middle east for decades. You're seeing the start of Israel finally paying for its crimes and it won't stop here.
>>532920672Really? Bigger than evangelicals and lutherans?
>>532920833American Evangelicals is the bigger group, but it does consist of many little sub groups.
>>532920833There's no one Evangelical Church.
>>532920501>real estate retardsjd vance is a sheep being thrown in a cage with lions. witkoff and kushner both have more authority than him.
>>532920904>>532920930Man that sounds insane.
>>532920765So you're not worried about the narrative being shifted with the midterms so close? Seriously? I've been here since 2016, I know how important it is to call out shills.
>>532920948good thing he can talk
>>532920980go away retard
>>532920830>A nice thoughtit's called COPEall Iran has done is push Arab States closer to Israel and unite the world against Iran
>>532917572>>532917624what's up with all the false mining of hormussy news stories?are they setting up a falseflag?
>>532920980>/ptg/ newfag>calling other people shillsShouldn't have let you retards step foot on this board in the first place.
>>532921012Speaking of falseflaggers, damn you got a bad stink to you.
>>532921014>coping migger replyAll the confirmation I need to know I'm right, kek.
>>532921052I've been here a decade and you think I'm the newfag? Damn your TDS is insane.
>>532920833There's roughly 10 Catholics for every Lutheran'Evangelicals' are a mishmash of all kinds of churches and doesn't really mean anything, depends on the definition you choose.
>>532921052it's a falseflag
>>532919961>the energy that moves the motivation. You can be motivated and still not accomplish your shit to completionI seemovement behind motivation is redundant though, that's what motivation isif you are motivated and fail that means you encountered too many obstaclesif someone bursts through those obstacles with sheer willpower then we say they had insurmountable or unyielding drivewhich is just [adjective that means no obstacle was too great] + movememt"marijuana kills your motivation" is a common anti drug sentiment here too"marijuana kills your unyielding drive" doesn't make senseyour conception of motivation is found in sports and businessbusinesspeople will say "he failed because he wasn't motivated enough"it's a philosphy. if you wanted it you would make it happen. some english speakers will look at a race with 300 participants and legitimately believe the 299 losers just didn't want it hard enough. perhaps your friend subscribes to that view. then motivation is the right word, but he can make that more clear by providing context that motivation and success are conjoined concepts and a failure is a post hoc indication of lack of motivation.I could have made this more concise, sorry
>>532921014They don't understand how the GCC doesn't want to be under threat of terrorists 24/7 and how they see the USA and Israel as the only gaurantors of safety.
> Saudi Official:>“When our refinery was attacked, we asked the US for help—but they stayed silent.>Now, as we try to make peace with Iran and reduce tensions, America is deliberately sabotaging the process.>They want war. The US is a war empire; it cannot survive without conflict.”Saudi is tapping out. The UAE is left now alone. Some more UAE spanking and chocking is requires
>>532921014The GCC countries outside of Saudi will collapse in the next year or two bro. Arabs in general love strongmen, they aren't gonna support the gulf cucks after this.
>>532921095no cope, it's factIran has LostRegime is in Shambles
>>532921142>calls me a falseflag>wont even call out fucking shills making the threadholy shit you're pathetic
>>532921198>muh cards
>>532921025They are trying to justify zog to come in and demine. Since it’s “unsafe”. Iran has the precise maps of the mines.
>>532921014>unite the world against Iran
>>532917738Why would we care about Turkey?
>>532921194I think Sunni clerics are going to fill the power vacuum. This isn't good.
>>532921194>>532921219>>532921245Islamic Regime has already collapsed>tattoos>smoking>showing hair Believe it or not, this was once a Muslim countryBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>532921194>they're going to give up insane wealth to live under arab tyrantscanadians are retard tier
>>532921237i believe they didn't mine it at all
>>532921258A chunk of Turkey is part of Greater Israel.
>>532921198why doesn't he just wipe out their entire civilization ?
>>532921304dunno why they even pretend to be muslim, they're just a military dictatorship now propped up by russia and china
>>532921304I think they were never that serious to begin with. Even in older photos a lot of these types were roaming the streets.
>>532921025Who knows. Just shows how fucking retarded people can be.>Strait is mined>Chinese ships are immune to mines
>>532921317Probable too. Or they installed some complexe system where it’s cloaked under the sea bed and can be deployed when activating the system and some little door hatch opens up and releases the mines…
>>532921304Or maybe, Iran was never as oppressive as western media makes it out to be.
>>532920830>With US decline, they'll be able to take out Israel eventually.I think more critically, with the damage this has done to US-Israeli relations. Since we lost, like Vietnam, we're going to handwring about why even did this. And from the statements of a number of high level people in this administration, Israel will be blamed. This is further corroborated by people from past administrations like Biden and Obama saying "Yeah, Bibi tried this shit on us too" which establishes a pattern of behavior.Even among Evangelicals, the goodest goys around, support for Israel in <50s was below 50%. I can't see them ever enjoying the blank checks and unquestioned support they have enjoyed after Trump.
>>532920065noooohe said to go all out ONLY if you decide to pick the war option and didn't complain since!
is this belt and road initiative important?
>>532921342soon, friend
>>532921523its mostly a meme
>>532918148He's already the couch fucker, I:m sure they can get nastier.
>>532921014>Arab StatesOh nooooNot mah alliance of sunni femboys that can't defend themselves and now can't even sell their oilIran is truly lost, all those US bases are going to double in staff in two weeks now
>>532921543based
>>532921468It's also just easy to lose track of naval mines historically, especially older ones. Minefields as a weapon class just have this problem, even self sanitizing ones.
>>532921267The deal would be bad for GCC and provide guarantees and proof of power for the Iranians. The only way out of the already bad situation is to power through, but instead Trump blinked and handed Iran, China and Russia a big win. This is the end of American hard power and it will be felt across all western countries as major gains will be made by its adversaries. If both Venezuela and Iran withstood American attempts at regime change or power projection, then why would China or Russia fear the US at all when they're many times more powerful?
>>532921543I see you removed the date.
>>532921523>do nothing>lose
>>532921408there was a time where they would literally arrest women who simply showed their hair>>532921469maybe you have no idea what you're talking aboutturns out forcing religion onto people makes them despise itwho knewthe Mullahs have become a huge joke now, the new leader simply got there because he was the Son of the former leadersorta like how the Shahs did itBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHit'sIranover
>>532921543Orange nigger is the one that bitched out of it
>>532921624it's been rescheduled
>>532920819>Russia is justified and Israel isn'tYes
>>532921645Iran literally sued for peace and asked for a delay for negotiations. Trump did NOT bitch out it.
>>532921172>Israel as the gaurantors of safety
>>532921593anchor points collapse over time as well due to current drag, so mines can end up moving pretty far over time from their initial placement
>>532921645weird way to spell postponed
>>532921641I don't think that's true.
>>532921659I wonder why.
>>532921705Abraham Accords
>>532921561tbhqfam, china itself is a memewith a TFR of 1 (im not rounding, its pretty much bang on 1.0), they're going to be irrelevant within 50 years, and thats IF the current gen retiring doesn't kill them. fascist countries work very well when things are going good and everyone is happy and prosperous (which is not the image the west has of china, but its accurate, presently, in relative terms ofc), but very unstable when things go sour. democracies have release valves, parties being voted out of power, leadership demonized, etc etc. single party states like china, not so much. the whole "what doesn't bend, breaks" thing.
>>532921602Even if this operation was hasty and poorly planned, I think a lot of serious questions (that should have been asked 20 years ago) need to be asked about the American military in terms of doctrine, equipment, and strategy.Aircraft lost per sortie is trending way upward from the 90s and 2000s, and Iran is reminding everyone of a forgotten lesson from Yugoslavia - that hardened bunkers work really well against airpower and require less capex than building an airforce.
It was funny to see Mark Levin screaming and screeching about >are you just going to abandon the poor innocent civilians!?when Trump announced the ceasefire, when he had been threatening to wipe out their civilization just a few hours before
>>532921787what about them
>>532921787lol
>>532921760it's a 19 hour round trip for the B-2siran waited until they were 1 hour away, transpondersthen they dropped their preconditions and agreed to talksgood question
>>532917772They're going to bomb the meeting aren't they?
>>532921808Yeah China is an inevitable failed state. We just gotta hope they don't chimp out when they realize they're collapsing.
>>532921267there are a lot of sunnis that would support pan-islamic paramilitary groups right now, i think. that could be a thing moving forward. >>532921304iran always allowed tats as it was a persian thing, everyone in the middle east smokes and the hair thing isn't a huge deal. and do you expect these early 20s edgelord women to overthrow the government and steal the uranium when delta force couldnt? >>532921311it's just wealth now. they'll hang on for a while but it's no longer fuck you money. are the pajeet waiters gonna fight for those royalties for slave wages?
>According to two European officials, and a person familiar with the matter, who were briefed on the talks, Trump used the White House meeting as a venting session for the president to air out his frustration about Europe's refusal to participate in the Iran operation.>“It went shit,” said the first European official. “The conversation was nothing but a tirade of insults.” Trump “apparently threatened to do just about anything.”https://www.politico.eu/article/trump-vented-at-rutte-over-nato-inaction-on-iran-during-turbulent-meeting/
>>532921868Nah, that's what we would do, especially if there was a girls school or orphanage adjacent.
>>532921808China doesn't have the pension time bomb of most developed countries, and their working age STEM workforce will continue to grow into the 2040s as the rest of East Asia, Western Europe, and North America flatlines or declines.
>>532921921>politcoliterally just fake news, made up trash
>>532921787murican best minds roam these sorry interweb virtual lands, and they are sad
Awe winning again now...
>>532921641by your logic this means a violent overthrow of the american government is imminent
>>532921921based, stupid eurosissies
>>532922045>You'll get tired of winning
>>532921693>Iran literally sued for peaceEveryone involved said it was the USAre we forgetting the paki minister that posted the tweet the US asked him to send?
>>532919417How could one superimpose the Hormuz face with minesweeper.
>>532922145>Are we forgetting the paki minister that posted the tweet the US asked him to send?Theres no proof of that
>>532921726It's not happening, they tried for 40 days and it did fuck allAmericans are all talk
>>532922106no o feel like we've losing A LOT lately honestly I'm wondering if we're finally winning now
>>532922081if even 30 of those protesters got shot you'd be absolutely rightwe boiled the british governors in tar over crispus attucks and he wasn't even legally a personiranians overthrew the shah for killing protestersegypt, tunisia, the list goes onso thankfully we didn't shoot them like those retarded irannys
>>532922174It's literally in the post history and it's written in a way only an American would write it
>>532922145the US was always open to talksiran dropped its preconditions>Everyone involved failed to notice thisbunch of retards then, the whole lot and you doubly so
>>532918218>Kushnerthe elite's slapdog has any reason to be there, sadly.
>>532922250its written in english because they have multiple accounts, that one was in english, it wasn't some US conspiracy
>>532921809>need to be asked about the American military in terms of doctrine, equipment, and strategy.yea, the advent of cheap drones and missiles is definitely changing the landscape. especially in combination with the fact that whatever mid/great power is your enemy will gleefully use their sats to provide targeting info to whoever you're bullying.>Aircraft lost per sortie is trending way upward from the 90s and 2000shonestly, less of a problem than goatherders hiding in a cave being able to drone your aircraft carrier anywhere <=1000km away, for the cost of a used toyota. >hardened bunkers work really well against airpower and require less capex than building an airforce.that too, but really its the cheap drones and missiles. nobody gives a shit about the goatherders in the bunker if they can't really get out and cause trouble. oh, and it bears remembering that all of the above are only really an issue in combination with an uncommonly good map spawn location. iran is able to acquit themselves so well only because they can leverage cheap drones and missiles to blockade the strait, and to threaten retaliation on all the oil infra in the gulf if they were located a couple of countries over to the east or north, it wouldn't be so much of an issuethe drones and missiles would still make the campaign expensive, air refueling and whatnot, but money aside, it would be just another case of "bomb them until they say uncle"
>>532922235those protestors were killing cops and trying to start an insurrection trump admitted to ratlining them guns kek
>>532922184>they triedwe reserved a few targetsyou know this because you're triggered by a bridge and power plant day memeno way to reconcile your cognitive dissonance>noooooo you did 40 days you have to stop nowlol
>>532921921Who cares how much piss the cucks get in their ears.
>>532922347euros are so retarded i think they actually secretly want to see Trump bring doomsday to Iran
Pool Status?
>>532917507Jews find a way to go to a new level of evil every day
>>532922347You ran out of JASSMs, you cant do long range strikes anymore. You're gonna hate what happens when you gotta come closer.
>>532922405
>>532922235It's also hard to understate the extent to which the Shah fucked up. If the only place people can talk politics without the secret police arresting them is a mosque, of course any revolt would take on an Islamic character.
>>532922309I'm not saying we shouldn't have, just that your logic was retarded
>>532921987>pensionsto quote lord baelish, that's just numbers on paper, its easy to make them behavethe underlying reality is not though: how many people of working age vs how many people on support? oh, and also, how many people of working age vs how much economic output? if you have a trillion dollar economy with half a billion working age people, what happens to the economy when its only a quarter billion working age people?hint: nothing good.
>>532922427delusional nigger, we've been using 98% dumb bombs since day 213000 sorties, total impunity
>>532922347>triggeredIt's not because you're mad at me saying the obvious that I'm as assblasted
>>532922537My favorite /pig quote is how the USA is only using standoff munitions. We've been flying right over tehran for weeks lmao
>>532922649>I, ANON, DISAGREEwhy does he keep posting this
>>532921543>he's making a list and checking it twice... satanic claus
>>532918327>They called george w buch a nazi they do it for the next red team presidentKek>imagining we'll see a republicuck as president the next two decadesLmao
>>532922307>honestly, less of a problem than goatherders hiding in a cave being able to drone your aircraft carrier anywhere <=1000km away, for the cost of a used toyota.A Shahed isn't doing much. But supersonic cruise missiles are both more prolific than the cold war (Oniks, Brahmos, etc) alongside maneuvering ballistic missiles. The genie that really left the bottle from Ukraine was sharing targeting data.I don't fundamentally disagree that "the missile will always get through", but I think the threat towards carriers isn't drone swarms per se.But I also don't really think of Shaheds as a drone per se. I think of them as more of a very economical cruise missile. When I think of drones, I tend to think more of FPVs and their impact on ground warfare.
>>532922511Iran has millions of foreign workers. You think the full force of the CIA and Mossad couldn't flip a new thousands or sneak their guys in?>>532922537Where is the footage? Why are you out of JASSMs?
>>532922674Is that why you're in the process of negotiating your own surrender?
>>532921808Yeah, we're kind lf learning our release valves don't really work. Turns out when you elect a retard that dsres you to stop him, the other pussies in government roll over.
>>532922867we're negotiating because Iran didn't want to get bombed back to the stone age and they asked for negotiations lmao
>>532922831what footage?>you are out of JASSMsrepeating this doesn't make it true, loserwe built way too many JASSMs, total waste, this is the main war we needed them for but instead we've been dropping gravity bombs on tehran and isfahan since day two
>>532920948>witkoff and kushner both have more authority than him.They also work for Israel. They are double agent tier traitors. You think these people have anything resembling America's best interest at heart. That's fucking laughable.
>>532922868You have to be a retard to think anyone takes the mongoloid in charge of america seriously.
>>532922924and this all came to you in a dream?
>>532922867seems unlikely, considering iran had to abandon a dozen preconditions including lebanon to make those talks happen
>>53292253740-52 losses in 13,000 sorties is way more attrition than either Gulf War or Yugoslavia.
>>532922919>>532923003Is that why you paid them $6billion for the privilege?
>>532923000what footage, retard?I was talking about the fact that we built way too many JASSMs for what turned out to be 99% dumb bomb war.I blame the contractors for selling the military a scary story about chinese air defense, which turned out to be as impotent as the gayatollah
>>532922978>You have to be a retard to think anyone takes the mongoloid in charge of america seriously.Its not about taking him seriously. Its about what he knows he can get away with because both parties are full on faggot
>>532922924Oh look, planefag-tier /k/ope
>>532923041iran literally gave up on hezbollah to get out of the war
>>532920830nukes couldn't save pajeet from being utter slaves of kikes why would it save iran. Even israel is not safe with nukes
>>532923041>picAh, the classic
>>532923039you fundamentally misunderstand drone war if you think I'm going to be demoralizedespecially after we saved corporal ryan, my god that was humiliating for irannys, no wonder they abandoned all their preconditions and begged us for talks
Bake status?
>>532923102>we built way too many JASSMs>ran out>tons of planes suddenly shot down>ceasefire happens shortly afterwards
>>532923041>in 2023they're not sending their best kek
>>532923191>tons of planesone planeONE FUCKING PLANE
>>532923220it was half a billion in planes in 48 hours actually
>>532923191this is what the IRGC actually believes lmaowe had to send cooper just to help ghayliboy get a damage assessment
>>532923268I am collecting a list of countries that value pilots more than aircraft, I will add yours to the list. should I put leafland, india, china, or all three?
>>532920231Heritage Americans are a minority of a minority. Yet highly placed in heritage American institutions like the cia and military. They lost the country because they stupidly ended immigration country of origin restrictions.
>>532923268oh okay you're counting the planes that got stuck that WE blew up. is this how the shitskin mind works? You gotta claim aircraft kills that you never had anything to do with?
Where is Colin Baker?
>>532922867if they can bomb and ceasefire you on a whim. You are the loser
>>532923316you value him because you're hollywood brained and care about that more than losing
The Epstein Empire wonYou lost tranny
>>532923344Yeah. If a plane went down in Vietnam and we blew it up or a helicopter was rendered unusable by a mortar attack, it would still be a write-off and airframe loss that contributes to attrition over the air campaign.Are you some kind of vatnik?
>>532923391>you value himend of
>>532923478accident losses are entirely different from shoot downs, don't even give me that shit
>>532923533Fatni/k/ meltie
>>532923505what was his name by the way? surely he was paraded as a war hero
>>532923658cope more shitskin traitor
>>532923674He doesn't exist
>>532923533Not for any practical purpose. A lost aircraft is a lost aircraft, whether the enemy forced you to destroy your own aircraft (lmao) or did it themselves.
BAKE STATUS???(I'm not gonna do it myself because you're all just going to yell at me)
>>532923827do it, don't listen to the haters
>>532923827make the OP image something Trump based to make the turdies seethe
>>532923908>Trump The guy importing infinity Indians?
NEW>>532924086>>532924086>>532924086
>>532923980that's us ;*(
