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Talks over
what happened to the pilot?
Iran Lost
>>532991714pool still closed. miga still seething. kikes quietly panicking.
so rumors are that Vance pretends it is about nuclear when really at issue is that the US can't tell israel to not annex lebanon
>>532991800this but with the US and Israel
It's time for round 2
Rolling for dead kikes
>>532991684Why were there military planes flying from Euro countries to the middle east then?What else were they carrying?
>>532991714They should send 20 Khoremshits at Ben Gurion and hit all those juicy tankers parked there.
Strait status?Hegemon status?Petrodollar status?Banan status?
FAKE AND GAY "WAR"
>>532991800did you enlist yet, migger?
>>532991832Vance's reputation as a negotiator is as dead as Trump's at this point.
been away all day, what all I miss ?
>>532991958Wars back on.
>>532991832>Iran’s Fars news agency says the path to a deal hinges on the US changing its “unreasonable demands”, and that the Strait of Hormuz is one of several contentious issues to be resolved.seems like more than that
>Sends in 99999999999999 new anti air missiles during the half time break
>>532991958There was no deal surprise surprise
>>532991958JD Vance failing to secure a deal after they sabotaged it with a USS destroyer to poison the strait, I mean the well.
Does anyone else find the complete radio silence about the pilot thingy very eerie?Supposedly the greatest "No Man Left Behind" hollywood tale in all of American history happens. Heroic rescue of two airmen from the depths of hostile mountain territory. Easter miracle, etc. etc.Not even a week later and not a soul in the admin or the media is talking about it.
>>532991958Vance lied, the global economy died
>US demanded ‘everything they couldn’t obtain during war’>A source close to the Iranian delegation says the US demanded “through negotiation everything they couldn’t obtain during war,” according to the Fars news agency.The source said “Iran did not accept America’s ambitious conditions regarding the Strait of Hormuz, peaceful nuclear energy, and several other issues”.expected, get back to fighting, pussies
>yeah, so let's completely let go of our tempo and give ZOG the opportunity to re-calibrate its military posture against us. truly, we eez aryans 'n' shieeetYOU FUCKING NIGGERS!
>>532992037They want more free munitions, I suppose.
>We leave here with a very simple proposal, a method of understanding that is our final and best offer. We'll see if Iran accepts it .It seems like we reached a final offer, and Iran has to take it back to Iran to see if it can be appoved?
Rarely has a war been more righteous, an enemy more vile and perfidious, a nation led by more criminal and disgusting bandits.Iran truly is fighting a Jihad for the soul of Humanity. Against the pedophiles and fraudsters in Washington, the genocidal murderers in Tel Aviv and the greedy slavers in arabia.I could not think of a worthier struggle than to defy the satanic empire of Yid, to resist the pure evil of Miga.
>NO DEALNO DEAL>NO DEALNO DEAL>NO DEALNO DEAL>NO DEALNO DEAL>NO DEALNO DEAL>NO DEALNO DEAL
>>532991884yes im joining the IDF Babe Brigadedid you?heard Hezbollah is taking recruits
>>532991784caca saar
>>532992055They’re probably still in hospital you can get grim injuries ejecting from a jet especially if it was hit by anti air missile shit might be spinning mid air
>>532991714Can't wait for this to be over
>>532992055No not really. We didn't know almost anything at all about the Maduro raid until a while later
is that the scheme? do powerplant day and hope iran doesn't do what they promised because of pakistan?the pakistania deterrence is soft, if Iran is ready to tank the US attack they will take the pakistani whimper as wellwrong side pakistan, bad choice
we are legitimately close to WW3, what the fuck
>>532992055The fuck do you want nigga, the Netflix adaptation?
>>532991837yep. someone make the edit.
>>532992143over? someone born yesterday will be old enough to join the military before this is over.
"Iran’s state television broadcast said that the United States’ “demanding too much” was an obstacle to reaching an agreement. The report said the major sticking points were the opening of the Strait of Hormuz, Iran’s rights to enrich uranium and “other issues.” “Despite various creative approaches by the Iranian team, the Americans’ overreach and unreasonable demands prevented talks from advancing,” the state television report said.""Air Force Two is rolling for takeoff from Islamabad. After marathon negotiations, Vice President Vance is leaving Pakistan with no deal with the Iranians." -- NYT
>>532992055The whole thing was likely a cover
>>532992013A couple DF21 carrier killers would be exciting. At the very least it would be huge for Iran to be able to reverse engineer an anti ship ballistic.
i hope we get ai meme of jd vance playing deal or no deal
>>532992041Trump went to the UFC show over overlooking negotiations. I have no fucking clue why they even bothered with this shit.
if jew bad they why trump let mr. jew do the sex and pregnant trump daughter?
>>532992055We can only imagine how badly the attempt to steal the uranium went for them to not talk about the supposed rescue at all
>>532991714MIGA
>>532992178shills still can't come to terms that USA pulled 2 successful rescue mission 30km from Isfahanthey need conspiracy theories to comfort their fragile souls
>>532992088They also need time to clear out the missile city exits, those places have been getting a hammering no doubt. They might also need a few weeks for Chinese armaments to arrive.
show me your nuclear war face my bbc sissy sisters
>>532991800id bet a million dollars a jew drew this. every accusation is a confession
>>532992114most jewish women look like this and israeli women think i'm evil for not being jewishwhy should i give a fuck about them? i hope all these whores die
>>532992055Why are you still talking about that? Noone cares about that anymore, its for losers. Here is a new 50 foot golden statue of me for the Ballroom.
>>532992197truly the art of the deal
>>532992297Why was a colonel flying as WSO deep in Iran territory?
>>532992332forgot pic
will there ever be a Happy bridge and powerplant day?
>>532992407It won't yield the results you expect my migger. Short of using nuclear weapons, you'll discover a nation of 80 million is a lot sturdier than you can imagine.
>>532992178>The fuck do you want niggaA singular mention of the "pilot"'s birth name, or any other proof of existence, would sure be nice.
>>532991714So if US walked out and the ceasefire was meant to be time for negotiation, does that mean the ceasefire is now over and the war is back on?
Why would Iran fall for the most obviously fake negotiations ever in history right after they participated in the other most fake negotiations ever
>>532992102Black nigger take on the situation.
>>532992055i liked the secret CIA ghost murmur tech bit
>OPEN THE FUCKIN' STRAIT
>532992297>weakest shillbot on 4chinsSad. Very unimpressive
>>532992327that a school or something
>>532992055It was clearly an operation to try to get the uranium and it failed miserably. Everything went as they described the bs carl on duty tier operation and it failed spectacularly to the point they had to burn 500 million shekels worth of equipment. The pilot was likely killed by a burger bomb way behind they claimed they rescued him
>>532992306Yeah a short pause like this benefits Iran more imo especially if the strait is still closed. It's estimated the US can produce 3 THAADs and 20 patriot pac 3 interceptors and a handful of Standard Missiles in the duration of the two week ceasefire so not much changes. They're probably staging a bunch of spec op BS and shipping rocket artillery to Kuwait and Bahrain. There's not much else they can do. I think it is better that the ceasefire end early though, just so that third carrier can't come to the theater.
Why doesn't he use submarines to transport oil through the Strait of Hormuz?
>>532992407No, because Iran then destroys the desalination plants and oil infrastructure, and sends the world into a dark age.
>>532992478Buying time, they even have S400s now.
>>532992478Those other negotiators died before they could pass on the important lesson of "do not trust the USA or Israel"
>>532992102trvke
>>532992463His name is Ronald Jeremiah Dickson, also known to some as Ron Jeremy.Source: My uncle works at Centcom.
Congratulations Iran for another successful victory and good luck with your continued noble defense against the seething pedophiles.
>>532991714any new ai clips?
>>532992478Iranian master strategy is to expose Israeli humiliation of the US until one or both cracks. It's working.
>>532991941There is no way Vance will be the republican nominee now, Rubio either. Both of them have wrecked their political careers now.
>>532992555I am still in disbelief at how Iran hadn't bothered to put agents in the US to destroy US infrastructure in this situation. That's an unforced error on their part, it would have been so easy.
>>532992479How many market manipulations are you going to let slip for trumps cronies to enrich themself with insider trading?You know they are literally stealing billions whike mocking the principles of your "free market" right? You got cleptocrats in charge that would make a Yeltsin Era Oligarch blush.
>>532992555>Sends the old world into an energy crisisWhy should I care...sounds like a European and Asian problem. We have plenty of oil for ourselves
>>532992478Because it makes them look reasonable. Time only strengthens their military leverage as the economic damage mounts.The Strait was never really reopened (no thanks to Israeli bloodthirst), so they didn't even cede their main leverage.
>>532992623what's wrong with Marco ?
>>532992502assblasted kek
>>532992167It's going to be ww3 against jewsa and kikes. The world will sit this one out and then hit jewsa when they chimp out harder against everybody else for not falling for their demonic kike bullshit.
>>532992669polo
US demanded ‘everything they couldn’t obtain during war’A source close to the Iranian delegation says the US demanded “through negotiation, everything they couldn’t obtain during war,” according to the Fars news agency.The source said that “Iran did not accept America’s ambitious conditions regarding the Strait of Hormuz, peaceful nuclear energy, and several other issues”.Al Jazzera >Fucking hell they dabbing on US
>>532992623For us it doesnt matter who they choose, its alwats kiked and the normies will forget about this in less than 3 days by blaming it all on those "simple minded sand farmers who just cannot tell whats good for them"
>>532992478It's good optics for them and it makes Americans even more demoralized than ever knowing that they're dying to protect cannibal pedophile kikes who view them as cattle while their ""enemy"" behaves honorably.
Crazy escalation is about to happen ain't it? Iran has nuked by this point btw
>>532992643We seem pretty good at doing it ourselves.>>532992669That he's the Secretary of State of this administration as it prosecutes the biggest foreign policy disaster since the Vietnam War.
>>532992555
>>532992167In what way? I'm getting really tired of the sensationalist propaganda.
Marco has polio ?
It's fucking on boys, war goes on.
The world was a depressing place for a few days without haifa and tel aviv bombings
So why Trump insisted so early for a ceasefire and then concede nothing?What are the chances a secret deal was made, but part of the deal is to allow both parties to safe face with their respective populations?Has that ever happened in history?
Nuke the jews.
been here all day, what should i have missed?
Why does the USAF keep flying F15’s and A10’s at low altitude instead of just using B2’s?
>>532992623nah the GOP loves neocons, they'll easily get a nom, but they wont win against whatever random leftist faggot runs against them
>>532992817Because the stock market was getting too low. It's the only thing he cares about besides himself
>>532992728I guess Vance is just as useless and delusional of a negotiator as Trump, Witkoff, and Kushner.
Bets on something happening to vances plane?
>>532992817Pakistan lied to both sides saying their proposal was accepted by the other party
with the american delegation gone, how long before pissrael shoots down the plane with the 80+ iranian delegates?
>>532992041Such a perfidious action. The US is going to keep pulling this shit and eventually it's going to cry for a time out and the world is going to tell us to go fuck ourselves. Ww3 is going to be everyone vs USA I figured this out decades ago.
>>532992555this is like when people suggest that taiwan could autowin by destroying the three gorges dam. it's the equivalent of a nuke, any strike that would guarantee any kind of genocide or global depression would immediately turn whoever did it into a pariah state that gets gangraped by everyone else on the planet.
>>532992478Because the world is watching and the world saw that both pissrael and jewsa were poisoning the negotiations from the start by directly breaking the ceasefire, breaking the word they gave out publicly and by acting like nigger bitches.The word of jewsa is worth nothing at this point and they were found to be paper tigers that wasted decades worth of rockets and interceptors for absolutely nothing
>>532992147We got a photo of him like right after the raid
>>532991958Vance and Ghalibaf almost threw hands.Journos are getting fed prime biryani and kebab but are bored.US played the gayest game of I'M NOT TOUCHING YOU by briefly approaching the strait under the pretense of mine clearing before being turned away.Spain closed their embassy in Tel Aviv and reopened it in Tehran.Laura Loomee is trying to instigate another purge.Mossad is getting paranoid that they have a mole China might be sending anti air batteriesUh something cringe about Bahrain I don't remember.
>>532992817yeah secret treaties were common until wwi, when a bunch of a secret treaties led to wwi and everyone agreed not to have secret treatiesat least not publicly haha
>>532992890Low. Wouldn't make a difference. But it would be great if they all died.
>>532992610All the Iranian negotiators are going to be killed and the war will be back harder than ever. They've achieved nothing. I want a ZOG humiliation as much as the next guy but let's be real here, all they have is Hormuz and nothing else. I don't even count out another color revolution being successful
>>532992863the b series are extremely high maintenance, you cant spam them
>>532992735Iran has behaved supremely honorably for this entire saga. To the point we thought they just were going to let themselves get destroyed.
>>532992817he needed an out from his threat of bridge and power plant day
>>532992906Iran is already in that state shit for brains,
>>532992543cause oil floats on water retard
I was hoping for a peace deal anyone else...this war seems like a bad deal
>>532992870Given that we've established a new upperbound of how destructive a Republican administration can be in terms of foreign policy, beyond even the 2003 Iraq invasion, I have a hard time justifying voting for any Republican president going forward if this is a plausible tail risk. Especially given how much control the president exerts over foreign policy.
What are the odds Mossad & CIA just used this negotiation thingy to install trackers on the Iran delegation?
>>532992943In what way is Iran losing? Please break it down for me
>>532992643>how Iran hadn't bothered to put agents in the USThe imbalance is that Iran follows an active ideology (it's defined by specific beliefs and moral practices that you must adopt) whereas the U.S. follows a passive ideology (it's defined by lack of beliefs and lack of moral practices).It's much easier to degenerate people into a passive ideology than it is to convince them to join an active one. That's why the Judeo-Mutts are so capable of turning locals into agents.
Vance going home.
>>532992934Pakis made possible weapons deliveries to Bahrain
>>532992949This, niggers don't realize for every hour they spend airborne they are going to spend a week grounded.
the core issue the US got is that they lost the only person who could beat iranhis name? Saddam Obama Hussain
>>532992973I thought Vance would be able to make a break through honestly
>>532992195Fun fact: there has never been a recorded instance of an anti ship ballistic missile actually hitting a ship.Even in its own military exercises testing their own vaunted carrier killers China has yet to actually score a hit against a seaborne test dummy with one. In other words, it's all propaganda. They tell their people they have anti-carrier weapons because the regime has good reason to be scared of US naval air power, and somehow that's enough to convince the global souths volunteer cheerleaders by osmosis. But these are untested, undemonstrated and unproven weapons designed by a country that has never won a naval battle for a kind of warfare they have never in their history engaged in.
>>532992643The IRGC is trying to present itself as a legitimate government instead of fueling the terrorism narrative, it's worked pretty well so far imo. They've arrested "Iranian conspirators" in Israel though, although I'm not sure if it's legitimate
>>532992991Something something muh k/d look at the politicians we assassinatedThe usual /k/ bullshit
>>532992489That defied the laws of physics and scientific American did a piece ridiculing it. Obvious ik
>>532992973making peace with the Islamic Regime is a bad ideait was literally the last life line they had leftit'sIranover for the Regime
>>532992971>Iran is already in that state shit for brainsno, i'm talking about an actual invasion and regime changed conducted by the entire western world and east asia vassal states. nobody would be ok with a country intentionally destroying the rest of the planet no matter what
>>532993018how? the US demands got worse the more you lost in the field
Itranians are going extinct.
>>532993018Not with Kushner breathing down his neck
PredictionsThey bomb the negotiators plane as it landsThen they nuke the Iranian missile citiesI dont think trump cares about the implications for Ukraine or Europe if he nukes iran
>>532992817Pakistan wanted to act like peace Nobel recipient and lied to Iran about the US willingness to surrender. In the end all parties lost their time
>>532992934>Vance and Ghalibaf almost threw handswat ?
>>532993036Your fucking retarded.. Argentina did it, Iraq did it, Iran did it in 80s, it's been done hundreds of times
>>532993036May I see these failed tests?
>>532993065He's against the war, inb4 you post your same talking point. >>532993091It's obvious we weren't able to pick up where we left off before the war.
>>532992899WW3 is never happening because everyone is too risk adverse now.
>>532992863They have just 21 B-2s and 45 B-1s. Past the stealth the B-2 is basically a glorified airliner, so it's good for PR and bombing farmers but Iran not so much. Plus the Americans would rather launch stand-off munitions, and at those distances it doesn't matter if a costly B-2 or a cheap B-52 launches the missile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3HD7J1mhDIepicons roll out for war
I thought Trump was supposed to be the master dealmaker?
>>532993101NO YOU ARE THE FUCKING
>>532993049I know..i was getting to that.. by that metric Hitler won.
>>532993099>They bomb the negotiators plane as it landsi mean why wouldnt they? they sent so many fucking people to baghdad, it should be easy enough to shoot the plane down in the air or when it lands at the airport
>>532993036You seriously misunderstand the point of anti-ship missiles. You are not supposed to fire one and then shrug if it gets shot down. You are supposed to fire upwards of 100 and saturate the target to ensure it fucking dies.
>>532993018Why? Even if you thought it was justified, we all saw his unforced blunder when he publicly bullied Zelensky. He's no charmer like a Clinton or Obama.
>>532993018As long as Witkoff and Kushner were there, no negotiations would've succeeded. Those two are the most well poisoning kikes in history
>>532992943They don't just have the strait, they have the capacity to destroy GCC oil infrastructure.
>>532993010F-35s have the same problem but they have a shitload of them
Vance was too young to be Vice President without any real achievements, we can't let him ruin anything else he has literally destroyed the motherfucking world in like THREE DAYS.We need an emergency change of VP to Rubio and Rubio to emergency talk to Iran this is for the fate of millions of people I think we can be allowed to do this if Iran isn't scared.
>>532993036Google the Falklands war retard
can trump finally do it and give us the decade of darkness?he will do it anyway in two month when he runs out of optionssince restraining israel is impossible and it is impossible for the US to eat crow and walk awaywe are only left with the option of the US destroying the world for the next ten years
Basically no deal and the Iranians said they have no interest in having a second round of talksPower Plant Day 2 Electric Boogaloo
>>532992669well for starters he's a flaming faggot
>>532993198Dude the problem is Trump, not any of his yes men
>>532992943They can close Hormuz and Bab Al Mandeb and they could blow up every oil instalation in the gulf. They can absolute destroy the global economy which they have held back from doing only because their own oil instalations have been left mostly intact.
>>532993186go away nafoid
>>532993099He can't use nukes.Not only are barely any american nukes in servicable condition, but furthermore would the fallout make the entire gulf and possibly much of the indian subcontinent uninhabitable.It would he a world ending scenario.
>>532993140This unironically might lead to it thanks to Israel and Kikemuttmerica forcing the world into a global energy crisis.
>>532993018>Vance>HonestHe was chosen to be VP specifically because he's a spineless fucking cretin, he's writing books on how great Catholicism is while the Pope calls him a warmonger
>>532993135I know that vance is against the war. The issue is that he shilled for it when it was still possible to stop it.
>>532993158wat ?
>>532993171Apparently last year a drone got within 2 miles of an Arleigh Burke by hiding behind another drone so they'd look as one in the radar return. Imagine a conga line of dozens of shaheds doing this lmao
>>532993146But the B-2’s seem less vulnerable to anti air fire than the other jets isn’t it risky to have to do another rescue mission if another F15/A10/F18/F35/F16 is shotdown?
It is impressive to me that out of all options on how to “deal” with Iran Trump managed to figure out the least effective one>>532993146>Past the stealth the B-2 is basically a glorified airliner, so it's good for PR and bombing farmers but Iran not so much.This is cope
>>532993062Nigger the world is seeing how this mess started only because ((((YOU))) bitches decided to start it and when people began to negotiate things with iran to open the strait again (((YOU))) fuck ass bitch niggers decided to escalate things, because (((YOU))) were losing hard, to the point Iran hit the ME oil facilities in retaliation. And when the world could have seen some peace (((YOU))) demon spawn cum drinker nigger twats decided to poision the negotiations by breaking basically every point in the ceasefire and by breaking every single word you gave.The world is watching ((((YOU)))) and the world won't fight for (((you)))
>>532993225This there were reports Everytime Trump posted to truth Iran would read it and go back to their maximum demands
>>532993267MIC idea: A “riot shield” drone that flys in front of the others and shields them from radar
>>532993229I'm not a fan of Zelensky. But objectively, that intimidation is the kind of thing you keep out of the cameras like LBJ, and only comes out in memoirs decades later. Doing it on camera is an unforced PR blunder.
LOOKNER IS FIRING UP THE AIR FRYERTHE AIR FRYER DIAL DETERMINES THE TIMELINE WE ENTER
>>532993212Can you guys just impeach Trump already? I bet even the illuminati is sick of him. Only sabbtean schizos like him.
I bet Trump will blame Vance for the failed negotiation on Truhtsocial soon.
There is absolutely no way Vance and Iran wasted their time to go to Islamabad unless a deal had been reached beforehand. They made a deal with politically unacceptable concessions on both sides, and now they're lying to the public about it. Iran will no longer bomb Israel over advances in Lebanon and the U.S. will limit its forces in the Gulf States, accept Iranian tolls in Hormuz, clandestinely release Iranian cash, force Israel to desist from striking Iran.
>>532992788there's no way to open the strait. Trump is going to keep escalating.
>>532993198Dude Vance pisses me off he has insanely borked every single thing we gave him. Remember HE is the reason we have no deal in Greenland. JD doesn't give a shit about ANYTHING like the millennial couchfucking bitch he is. He probably doesn't agree with the Iran War and can't make the effort to solve that either nor can he make a speech to rouse Hungary, he's a retarded race mixing mudblooded loser fucking asshole with mascara eyes. Fuck yourself.
>>532992055I didnt because it was very obvious. Shit was fake as fuck and used as cover for some failed exercise. Not even a picture, interview, glorified parade, nothing. And the "it was to protect the pilot" shit doesn't land because everyone knows the sadists that double tapped that school and nothing happens as usual.
>532992696>y-you’re so mad thoKUS and Iran stalemated; but israel LOST. Now seethe and kvetch and pilpul
>>532993366I do think there's some theater going on. >>532993357No lol
>>532993226>They can absolute destroy the global economythat would be suicide. you think that the chinks would be ok with that? fucking over the rest of the world is a good way to autolose>>532993296>and the world won't fight for (((you)))lol yeah i'm sure that if iran decides to fuck over the rest of the world they'll shrug and said "well jeez i guess we have to let them do it because it's america's fault"
>>532993338I bet chaff would work again to block drones a chaff dropping drone
>>532993273They are stealthy and have measures to reduce heat radiation, but they're also huge physically and very slow so they can't outrun a missile like fighters can. And again, the USAF would rather launch JASSM than drop JDAMs, and at those range any plane is as survivable as any other except if the enemy has AWACS to spot them that far, which Iran doesn't
>>532993357Our entire government is beholden to Israel, so the only way he's going is if people revolt or if the military does a coup.
>>532992665Bad news: "we will reopen the strait if you spare us" followed "actually we can't reopen the strait even if we wanted to" is not a diplomatic flex.This game of ass grab has demonstrated a few things:Beneath the false bravado, Iran's regime truly has no way to protect itself from US bombing and was desperate for a ceasefireThe regime is disunited, with the IRGC basically not answering directly to the country's leaders and a struggle internally to try and align military action with official policyAndThe regime lacks the tools to effectively police or control the strait behind intermittent missile-based interdiction.Unintentionally revealing that they are much weaker militarily and politically than their Lego AI tweets would have you believe isn't where they want to be here, but demonstrating that they can't actually police the strait is much worse for them.
>>532993018>I'm going to create a world where I can rape your child for israel and get away with it
>>532993357No. How bout you stop pretend climate change is a real thing and just drill your own oil you stulid faggot
>>532993296This, miggers lacking not only consciousness beyond surface level sentience also lack object permanence. Thinking noone in the world retains any memory of what has led to this point, instead relying on rambling Ziondon posts to update their current narrative perception of reality and the world. How can anyone disagree??? We din du nuffin.
There should never be a halt at the inevitable state dissolution afterwards Israeli pilots need to be chased to the ends of the earth and shot in their sleep. Handala has all the names and faces thankfully.
Vance waiting to takeoff
>>532993018It was highly unlikely given the US position on the conflict.They couldn't achieve their maximalist goals due to Iran surviving, and Iran wasn't going to accept anything short of the US fucking off from the middle east entirely.Nothing was going to happen without one side or the other eating crow. Everybody could see this lack of outcome was going to be the outcome.So, after the breather, it's back to the regularly scheduled war.
>>532993326irans demands are humble, they don't ask for the nuclear disarmanent of israeldon't ask the US to revive their assassinated popethey do not ask for the compensation of one american school full of little girls for each one you killedwhat they demanded was that the US accepts what you already lost in the fieldthe more the US failed in the field, the more extreme the american demands got, specific on missiles and the straityou demand now that you failed more than two month ago when you hadn't lost
>>532992980Don’t fret, you’ll vote one in 10-20 years from now because cuckservatives all have the ability to recollect like a goldfish.
>>532993273It is less risky but you have to consider endurance. B-2’s aren’t flying out of any base that’s even remotely close to Iranian missiles and those long flights take their tolls on the crews and airframes. If you want to do a lot of bombing you simply need a lot of aircraft, it’s why the USAF is ordering a shitload of B-21s. And besides, one of the few things the US military can hang its hat on is that the aircraft losses have been relatively small for such a large air campaign.
>>532993244Everyone talks about fallout but noone talks about the sheer amount of toxic smog nukes would create, the sun would be barely visible for months if not years, total crop failure and starvation, good luck mass farming in your underground bunkers you stupid reptilians.
>>532992306Iran should import those Chinese machines that can build stuff real fast as well. But idk if Chinks would like to go to a literal warzone where no matter if you are a schoolgirl you will get bombed anyway
>>532993412The world sees that its (((YOU))) who is fucking the rest of the world, retard.Iran was open to negotiation, opening the strait if you only followed their guidelines. (((YOU))) FUCKED SHIT UP
>>532993366>There is absolutely no way Vance and Iran wasted their time to go to Islamabad unless a deal had been reached beforehandDid you forget that this is the Trump administration? Remember all the "trade deals" and "phone calls" that Trump made up last year after LIBERATION DAYAlways be uncharitable and assume this administration is making it up as they go when Plan A (Maximalist Threats) does not instantly produce the desired result, and will blatantly lie to try to create something that was not real from the confusion.
>>532993460Watch Trump pull a Prigozhin on his plane.
>>532991714when are we gonna get our fucking bloodbath? all this fannying about pisses me off.
>>532993462And this time it will go on till midterms in all likelyhood. If Iran could wait out the carter administration it can wait out 5 months
>>532993462The worst thing is that this would've been the best moment to stop the war economically, even if it meant reneging on the agreement in a few months. Now oil is going to 200 within the month and the global economy is about to get fucked hard
>>532993412The chinks have a year of strat reserves and endless manufacturing capability, you however have nothing but israel. I'm sure seeing the American Empire eat itself wouldn't be something China could stand, oh no they'd HATE that. As would all of your "allies", lol. No one is coming to save you. Your whole nation will die in the dark screaming as it's packeraped by niggers and the rest of the world? Well it couldn't have happened to a nicer group of people.
>>532992102Based
>>532992643There's still time. The situation is still not existential for Iran. If they actually get backed into a corner I would expect something. Probably Russian and Chinese cells too. I remember a lot of "industrial accidents" in 2022 and 2023 when the cia shadow war in Russia was full on.
pakistans president should fly with the iranian delegates to tehran and back, so if israel shoots the plane pakistan nukes them
>>532993541I can't believe Prigozhin thought he was just going to hop on a plane and fly home
>>532992656Corruption is "free market". That's literally how miggers think.
>>532993552>MidtermsWe're in a global depression, if not outright economic collapse, if the Hormussy is still closed by November.
>>532993508To be fair the B-2 has pretty long range but it's slow so missions last up to 40 hours and pilots need to be drugged and wear diapers for the duration (this is 100% real look it up)
>>532993100No this is unironically a win for both parties.They both needed the breather.>>532993101Allegedly.>>532993003Ah.Yeah something gay.Pakistan is honestly such a retarded country.
>>532993345PR is for idiot bureacrats, Iran release Lego Epstein videos and it's a smash hit, theyre just shooting from the hip.
>>532993490This. Iran's demands are literally just "fuck off and let me be".
>>532993618America has the keys to paki nukes
https://t.me/rasedal3ado138e/344009Air activity reported over Baghdad
BREAKING: Hegseth is threatening to deploy the magacocks
>>532993618they give them a j35 escort home.
>>532993652Wait the B2’s don’t have toilets?? I thought America was this advanced
>>532993326OK if this is true I can give some forgiveness to Vance but it just seems like anything that is good ever happens because of Rubio, he did Venezuela, Panama and has the most liked tweets by far of any Trump stooge.
>>532993171We're talking specifically about ballistic missiles, anon.Anti ship cruise missiles have been used everywhere for decades and their strengths and limitations are very well understood. Shore-based cruise missiles lack the range to threaten a carrier, which is why "anti-ship ballistic missiles" are such a golden goose for aspiring US adversaries.The problem is that ballistic missiles are used against static targets and not moving targets for a reason. China wants to pretend they've solved that problem but can't actually demonstrate it in practice.
>>532993525ok let me put it like thisimagine you're the ruler of one billion chinksand those one billion chinks are only ok with you being the ruler because of the economic prosperity you've given themnow imagine that some guys in a desert have decided to destroy the economic prosperity that prevents one billion chinks from beheading you with a guillotinewould you be cool with that or are you going to try to avoid being dragged out into the street by one billion furious chinks?>>532993576cool, now who are they gonna sell their goods to if the rest of the world suddenly has no money?
>>532993681Is Araghchi releasing the lego videos? No. He's being quite professional in his on-camera appearances.
>It added, “Iran has no plans for the next round of talks”.
Trump just walked out at the UFC and got booed
>>532993366X to doubt.
>>532993651We're going to see a failure cascade of the system by next week regardless of hormuzzy status. Whats decided now is wether it accelerates into a full global energy collapse or a protracted scarcity caused economic stagnation and downturn.
"Ali Gholhaki, a conservative analyst close to the Iranian government, said on social media that talks fell apart because the United States demanded zero enrichment, removal of nearly 900 pounds of stockpile uranium from the country and a new demand of U.S. “management of the security of the Strait of Hormuz on their own terms.” Mr. Gholhaki said the United States also provided no commitment to end Israel’s bombing of Lebanon. “It seems the Americans didn’t come to negotiate!” he said." -- NYT
>>532993642>Prigozhinwho
does anyone legit believe iran doesnt already have nuclear warhead capability?
>>532993651We have enough oil. don't care about Europe or Asia. They can buy ours or fucking starve
>>532993370America will have riots in the streets if Trump keeps up his stupid bullshit. He managed to unite even his own supporters witht the left against him, if this continues he might have a Caucescu moment.
>>532993527This administration has proven it is capable of theater, the whole Putin-Trump negotiations were theater and the Russian side indicated that agreement on every point had been reached beforehand. With Iran, there is a theater as well.
>>532992906People will rightly blame the u.s. and Israel though for refusing to make a deal and clearly being the aggressor in this war.
>>532993791KWAB>>532993765The Chinese economy uses way less oil than we do for a given unit of economic output, and leads the world in renewables, and their infrastructure is not nearly as car dependent. They are far, far more insulated from this than we ware.
>>532993791none of you actually care about Iran, do you? you're just current thing drumpf posting
>>532993686do they fuck, they're chinese design. it's why the mutts respect the terms of the NPT with pakistan and don't supply them with advanced weaponry. unlike the scam they pull with the dirty fucking kikes.
>>532993765You're forgetting something. China makes everything. If they can't export tooks and trash, they will start exporting bombs and bullets instead.
>>532993728To be fair again, they're supposed to be super stealthy and dropping a deuce at 800 km/h could theoretically help trace it
>>532993765>no go you see IRAN is at fault even though israel and its golem vassel struck first and so china should attack iran!Slimy kike. This logic only works on 80 IQ Amerimutts, everyone else has enough intelligence to understand that Iran's actions are only done in response to judaic hostilities.
>>532992973I'm a bit surprised desu. I was kind of expecting Iran to cuck desu. America just nopeing out of the talks is weird though
>>532993728they do it's in the back seat
>>532993836The have the capability but doesn't have the equipment.
>>532991851Personnel.
Israel doesnt have nuclear bombs tho, its a mossad psyop to make them look stronger than they are
>>532993731It was very early and on Al Jazzera live blog, but yeah it read like Trump's social media is interfering with negotiations
>>532993791really ??
>>532993920China will buy our oilLiterally add weekend and holiday shift and we are good. American oil will power the world
>>532993904The fact that for you everything always turns around the orange tard is very telling.
>>532993765>china would attack Iranlmao more like China would watch the US get fucked in the ass in Iran then generously loan jt money to get the mutts even more dependent on China than we are already
>>532992863B-2s are primarily a nuclear bomber and are a core part of America's nuclear deterrence, so squandering their readiness on conventional strikes is just a gross misallocation of resources.The raid last year was an exception just because the B-2 is the only US plane that can carry the specialized bunker busters used against Iran's underground nuclear sites. It was a one off.Conventional planes are generally more than sufficient for the amount of Air Defense that Iran has access to, which is why in like 40 days of war they only lost 1 F-15 and an A-10 to enemy fire.
>>532993892>actually the leaders of the country will not be blamed for the economic depression and the people will be very understandingthis has never happened even one single time in the entirety of human history
>>532993767It's not PR though that's actually the way they behave, if Trump were to not act like a completely insane zionist moron that would be PR lol.
>>532993812>“It seems the Americans didn’t come to negotiate!” he said.
>>532994013How is our greatest economic adversary acquiring all our oil to refine and resell it a good thing???
>>532993791bro... source
>>532994013>just increase our output by 60% overnight its fineLmao
>>532994022>China would watch the US get fucked in the ass in IranAre we still pretending that if the US actually attempted a Desert Storm-esque invasion that Iran wouldn't be defeated?
>>532993812why don't they negotiate with the israelis if they want to save hezbollah?
>precision is not just a technical requirement, it’s a moral one. When we lose respect for facts, we lose the warWhat the previous centcom commander said before he was purged by laura loomer and her crew of retardsAnd kek, they stopped red teaming the POTUS in intelligence so he basically just has yes men around him..No wonder he is so delusional
>>532993836They weren't enriching high enough, and they already have conventional MAD with their ability to strike desalination plants and petroleum infrastructure.On the balance of evidence, we have the Israel (and their Republican puppets) saying that they have one. On the other, we have such a disparate group as Russia, China, the UK, Germany, France, the American Intelligence Community, and the IAEA saying that they don't. Either there's some massive conspiracy between all those disparate factions, or the Israelis are just full of shit.
>>532994022there is no winner in a global depression. this is like saying that china would be ok with every country on the planet being wiped out with nukes including their own because they could make money off of rebuilding things.
>>532994084>60%>Actually just 21%
>>532993207cruise missiles
>>532994088Are we still pretending that the US is actually capable of attempting a Desert Storm-esque invasion of Iran?
>>532994013That statistic is fake and gay and doesn't differentiate between crude and petroleum.The US is a net crude importer and a net Petroleum exporter. You absolutely do rely on gulf oil. Retarded shitskin migger.
>the kike hiding in the bushes with a stinger MANPADS ready to shoot Vance's plane:
>>532994013And where does America get it's crude from, migger?
The driving factors1. The US is not ready to eat the crow Iran is serving. Essentially Iran didn't even ask for anything that they don't already control and have won in this war. Check it yourself. 2. The US needs to get energy out of the gulf of iran in 40-60 days or they will be forced to absorb price shock or negotiate export bans. (strategic petroleum reserve is depleting)3. The US will be able to do another minor shock and awe campaign within days (material and ships amassing)4. It should now have sunk in Washington that Iran can 100% deliver on the retaliation against the GCC in full and without anybody being able to stop itWhat does Trump do when he got no options? Schemes, cheap tricks and playing for time. This playing for time will sadly errode the energy infrastructure further as it happened before.The cycle was "ultimatum", israel escalates before it expires in coordination with the US. Iran retaliates. Thats how they sleep walked into 20-30% damage of the facilities already. The most likely outcome is that we will see a repeat of the 2-3 day dumb trick cycle after an initial 4-6 day shock an awe renewal. In practice the best option for the US in my opinion is to eat the loss but that is not psychological possible to do without testing it.
>>532993642Prigozhin was far too kind, Russia would be far better today under his rule, RIP.>>532993829A based private mercenary who tried to coup Putin for being an incompetent corrupt warmonger
>>532994088Desert storm had a million men, there are currently 50k or less not to mention all the other differences between EZraq and Iran
>>532993829The hero Russia needed but apparently didnt deserve>tfw the people he tried to coup out of the government where removed for corruption like a year laterChina is smart to play the long game with Taiwan, all the great powers are looking retarded when they start wars
>532993765>he thinks he's the rulerNigger (((YOU))) are quickly becoming irrelevant and the world saw how (((YOU))) caused this mess literally out of nowhere for absolutely nothing because everything was fine before that. No threats from iran to europe or asia.No threats from iran to the gulf states either.Not a single problem with movement through the strait and not a risk for the oil infra.But kikes decided to genocide gazans, the UN saw this and deemed it 100% a genocide, tried to sanction pissrael but (((YOU))) amerikike nigger bitches had to use your veto.Iran stood up and hit (((YOU))) demonic asses into stopping. The reason why this whole mess started is because (((YOU))) kikes were not allowed to sacrifice millions of gazans to (((YOU)))R demonic overlord because Iran stood in the way. And for the kikes, there is no bigger sin than that. So the entire world has to pay for it.Hell was not made for sinners. Hell is made for (((YOU))). The sinners being thrown there as well is an afterthought
>>532994088It wouldn't be anything close to Desert Storm. And the fact you're still thinking it is shows how fucking retarded american perception is.Its like thinking Israel can easily overrun Lebanon because they fought 5 arab armies in the 6 day war.
>>532994145And what do you think separates a cruise missile from an anti ship missile you fucking mongoloid?
>>532994071not only that, you don't start knocking out an extra 20 million barrels a day overnight, when currently you only produce 13 million.
>>532993949>>532992973Really? when I saw Abbas being part of the negotiations team i knew they would basically say "No" for several hours
>>532994125China will come out FAR ahead of fat cunt land in a true global depression. Regardless of how bad things get, they have a real nigga economy that makes things. America just moves money back and forward and relies on the planet buying its debt so that the USD doesn’t die.
>>532994163canada
>>532994100Israel is the pet of the US, rabid or not. You have to go through the owner to yank the lash.
>>532992463>A singular mention of the "pilot"'s birth namehow transphobic
>>532994100I don't think Israel is interested
>>532994221>>he thinks he's the rulerHoly shit the breakfast question is real, brown people really can't understand hypotheticals.
>>532994154Did you forget we rescued two pilots by building a airstrip and landing forces and killing irgc rats who got close lolYou faggots want to hate America so bad
>>532994258if that were true we'd be negotiating with china or russia instead of iran
>>532994208He would've been airstriked if they went in. Putin was a stupid nigger for whacking the rest of Wagner with him though
So this is how war is going to be handled now? Like a TV series? Every week for 6 weeks a new episode, then we cut to production working on the next season. So we had war season 1 (February - April) and now war season 2 (April/May - July) and war season 3; more war than ever (August - November)
>>532994201Desert Storm also had support of the population
>>532994100Autocracies negotiating with the west always suffer this same confusion when they assume the US is just the Roman Empire and every other flavour of country is just a vassal that heeds America's beck and call.America can't make Israel stop any more than it can make Spain help but this concept is utterly foreign to the autocratic mind. They sit their in their fine imported suits and wonder why the US, as the largest western power, does not simply eat the others.
>>532991714Will the US seize the strait if Iran doesn't surrender? Iran has been "defanged", but they can easily continue buying missiles off the black market and launching them, wherein the US would be forced to continue bombing Iran for many years to come. Controlling the strait at that point is the only logical thing to do to pay for a prolonged operation.
>>532994196>based private mercenary who tried to coup Putin for being an incompetent corrupt warmongerguess it didn't work
>>532994252america is the 2nd largest manufacturer on the planet and the largest producer of oil. what does new zealand produce?
>>532994088No, it would work eventually. It would however take thousands of American casualties and at least half a year to complete. Not to mention the ensuing insurgency to ensure that the IRGC doesn't just hide out and come back to power like the Taliban did. Nobody's denying the US could beat Iran if it threw its full weight at it, but it would be at an incredible cost the likes of which hasn't been seen since the Korean war. On top of that, there's a good chance it simply fails because the US public doesn't have the stomach for such a war.>heh, I'm only using 10% of my powerOnly works in anime kid, the real world has limitations for a reason.
>>532994158No. Trump and Hegseth have a child's level of understanding of military logistics. Iraq took 6 carriers, months of buildup, and a large coalition - and that was against the smaller and more invadeable Iraq.These bonafide Bonapartes thought they could do it with 2. Utter hubris.
>>532994154>Are we still pretending that the US is actually capable of attempting a Desert Storm-esque invasion of Iran?Whatever erosion of American military capability there has been since 1991 does not change the fact that the US absolutely could still invade Iran and it would end in at least a toppling of the Islamic Republic. Its just that it would be so unpopular in the US, especially once the first FPV videos came out, that it would end any presidency.
>>532994125Chemotherapy does have side effects, as I'm sure the Chinese are aware. But what is the alternative? Allow you and Israel to destroy the world? Better to arrange circumstances whereby the cause of suffering can never recover to inflict it's evil again. You're thinking in conventional terms after exposing just how rabid you are. You will be decapitated.
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>>532992489Not as epic as the discombobulator they uses in Venezuela
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>>532994345>israel will destroy the worldBecause america doesn't want iran to charge a toll?
>>532994163you mostly import gulf energy via product imputstertiary massive product and supply shock will hit you wandering up the supply chainif china uses gulf oil to make a TV or if you import the oil does no make that much of a differenceyou will be unable to buy that TV
>>532994326sheep i think
>>532991714Sucks at Negotiating Award undefeated champion
Negotiations have been concluded successfully and all parties are returning home to disclose this fact to the relevant parties, technical staff remain locked in the hotel in Islamabad to finish the final details of the agreement and for opsec.
>>532994342You won't go within a thousand miles of a hostile coastline, the US ain't what it used to be and it's decline did not happen in a vacuum.
>>532994326>second largest manufacturer on the planetAssembling Chinese components doesn’t make you a manufacturer anon kun. As far as what my country produces, food. Pretty happy for that one and all I really care about honestly.
>>532994405sauce?
>>532994342>and it would end in at least a toppling of the Islamic RepublicFor like a decade lolWe'll just leave and they'll come right back in to redo all the work.
>>532994162https://youtu.be/36c6DbiSYl0?si=7GOPo3vhVhwdS7pu&t=3
>>532994190Gulf niggers are downplaying the damages. They are likely above 40% total damages and some specific installations are likely above that
>>532994326I get a special kind of honey from new zealand
>>532994342It was already judged to be an American Gallipoli before dorito spam was a thing. This is why the DoD for years wanted to avoid the proverbial sticking the fork in the outlet of war with Iran.
>>532994390Because you refuse to reign in your nuclear armed terror proxy.
>>532994201>Desert storm had a million men, there are currently 50k or less not to mention all the other differences between EZraq and IranI mean obviously I'm not saying if the US were to invade right now with the assets it already has in theater, I mean a legitimate large scale build up of forces. >>532994222>It wouldn't be anything close to Desert StormYou're right. It'd be more like Iraqi Freedom>>532994335>No, it would work eventually. It would however take thousands of American casualties and at least half a year to complete. Not to mention the ensuing insurgency to ensure that the IRGC doesn't just hide out and come back to power like the Taliban did. Nobody's denying the US could beat Iran if it threw its full weight at it, but it would be at an incredible cost the likes of which hasn't been seen since the Korean war. On top of that, there's a good chance it simply fails because the US public doesn't have the stomach for such a war.I agree that it'd be more costly than Desert Storm or Iraqi Freedom but it wouldn't be a second Korea. Korea itself was only Korea because of MacArthur going full retard.
>>532994431>NOOOO THATS A LIE!!!cope harder sheepfucker>>532994497all iran has to do is stop extorting the rest of the world.
>>532994451Habshab got hit twice and is pretty critical for UAE. They were taking pictures down on reddit even, that's how dire it is.
>>532994322He was literally so loyal that when Putin promised to negotiate with him he agreed to it and then Putin assassinated him, if he hadn't have stupidly believed him his coup was almost successful. Or it was all a fake psyop for whatever reason and Prigo is hiding in Belarus, you decide.
>>532994536All you have to do is stop committing and sanctioning the butchery of women and children.
>>532994431>As far as what my country produces, foodDon't look up who's the largest food exporter on the planet
>>532993791Good. He needs a wake up call that the MAJORITY are against this war. Miga niggers and zionists who both will never fucking enlist are the only ones for it.
>>532994525>I mean a legitimate large scale build up of forces.Good luck. They're eating doritos and ballistic missiles every day in the months it takes to actually mass a force.
>>532994597Yummo, corn!
>>532994594Are you not aware that iran is demanding post-war control of the strait?
>>532994525China was going to intervene in Korea no matter what. MacArthur could stop at the Yalu and China would still invade
>>532994338>Smaller and more invadeable.Iraq had the 4th largest land army in the world during Desert Storm and possessed better equipment then than Iran does now.Iran doesn't produce any modern military equipment for their ground army. They're militiamen with Soviet AKs and tube artillery from the 60s. The most modern equipment they still have in service are Chieftain tanks donated to the Shah.>Muh terrainIran has been invaded successfully several times by modern armies, twice of which was by Britain. They're not some fortress in the desert.
>>532994190>the best option for the US in my opinion is to eat the loss but that is not psychological possibleIt's an interesting dichotomy. On one hand, this is the least popular war in modern history. Nobody wants the US to be in it and everybody wants it to end quickly.However, if they go before the American people and declare the war is over because we lost, it would be political suicide. It would destroy you and everyone attached to you to admit defeat.So, they'll double down and keep kicking the war down the road, hoping someone else inherits it and all the political stigma that will come with it.
>>532994292You literally found a broken piece of road that was used once for agricultural planes, got fucked repeatedly there and then claimed that you got planes stuck in sand despite using a broken runway that showed no considerable amount of sand, especially not big enough to get a whole ass plane and helis (somefucking how) stuck in it.Bitch, you tried to use some random piece of road to do the carl on duty uranium stealing operation and it failed miserably. And you only went against a small paramilitary group, some cops and literally some tribal dudes from the nearby farming villages.Nigger (((YOU))) didn't build shit and you lost half a billion shekels in a single day of massive failures
>>532994485They also predicted in all wargames that American aircraft losses would be much higher than they currently are. I'm far from saying Iran is a paper tiger but the US tends to overrate its opponents in its wargames (likely so the MIC can make even more money).
>>532994578I like to think Prigo is still out there somewhere, hiding in the dunes, killing random ISIS and mossad faggots at night.
>>532994643Are you not aware that to the victor goes the spoils?
>>532994658>Iraq had the 4th largest land army in the world during Desert Storm and possessed better equipment then than Iran does now.lol
>>532994658>Iran doesn't produce any modern military equipment for their ground army.You know next to nothing about your enemy holy shit lmao.
>>532994525Macarthur was a crazy SoB but he was at least smart. The fuck do you think Hegseth is gonna do? It'll be an open war like Korea that transitions to an insurgency like Vietnam.
>>532992943>I want a ZOG humiliation as much as the next guyI don't think you do
>>532994655>China was going to intervene in Korea no matter what. MacArthur could stop at the Yalu and China would still invadeI agree. MacArthur's mistake was allowing the cohesion of his army to break down in their race northwards. The Chinese infiltration of the line was a masterstroke but it was helped along by how stretched the American units actually were.
>>532994695ok then, america should wipe out iran and take control of the strait and charge a toll. to the victor goes the spoils
>>532993861his name was ceausescu
>>532994196>better today under his rule, RIP.Laughable desu. He was a criminal caterer and a merc leader.
>>532994677Eh, they need to fly closer than the Iraq border
>>532994672with two little birds and zero excavators?get real
>>532994692Prigo and Mcafee are sipping martinis in the maldives my friend.
>>532994677That's because the carriers are stuck like a thousand kms away for fear of being hit by iran and thus have to rely on slow ass refueling planes to even make use of the planes on the carriers.
>>532994762>Macarthur was a crazy SoB but he was at least smartMacArthur was a high variance general. Within the span of like a year, he went from the brilliance of Incheon to "the fuck Chang gonna do? We're gonna be home by Christm-ACK"
>>532992643Turns out they're not the psychotic terrorists the (((media))) has led you to believe.
>>532994158Petroleum as defined includes crude oil. We import a different weight of crude due to refinery configuration, but we make more crude oil than we import. He SE nit a net importer.
>>532994232the anon said ballisticyou said "Google the Falklands war retard"it's pretty clear you made a mistake, ingrate
>>532994793And two big ass c130 that somehow "got stuck in the sand"
>>532993044>"Iranian conspirators"Probably just Palestinians
>>532994829Mac also fucked up in the Philippines and its pretty debatable if the campaigns from 1943-1945 were even valuable to defeat Japan
>>532994786Better than a KGB oligarch who couldnt give less of a shit about Russians and sold out for Israel.
>>532994862>that is correct, And two big assI accept your concession weirdo
>>532994787>>532994808>F-15 literally just got shot down in Iran>no no they're only using standoffs still come on guys you can think American military "strategy" is utterly retarded and still acknowledge that Iran has struggled to actually resist US airpower.
>>532994829MacArthur beat up a barely functional and heavily overstreched Korean Army that had a whooping 80 tanks and got his shit pushed in decisively the moment he had to face an enemy that actually had the numbers to match his force in maneuver warfare. The only time Macarthur ever achieved anything was with overwhelming firepower and local numerical superiority.
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>>532994786Also look at how well Russia is doing without Wagner, say what you want about him he was competent and patriotic, probably made him dangerous to putin.
>>532994913>Mac also fucked up in the PhilippinesI will defend him there. He was in an essentially unwinnable situation where the Philippines was always going to be a speedbump with obsolete equipment. And he was messaging Washington for more and more modern stuff in the buildup to the invasion.
I dream of every single oil well in the Middle East to light up in flames!
>>532994949>Loses 15 planes and drones in the span of 2 daysBruh
>>532994913>and its pretty debatable if the campaigns from 1943-1945 were even valuable to defeat JapanI've always held that they were if only because it continually forced Japan out into fighting battles they could not win. Kinda like how the USAAF daylight strategic bombing campaign over Germany was questionable in its ability to actually reduce German industrial capabilities but it always dragged the Luftwaffe up into the air where they could be attrited.
>>532994677>American aircraft losses would be much higher than they currently areNigger because they are not in theater. If they had kept them where they are supposed to be they'd literally be gone right now. Very possible that the Gerald Ford got hit.
>>532995056>and dronesYeah MQ-9s are easy to shoot down lol
>>532994450thanks for showing me this masterpiece
>>532994672This is some serious 3rd world cope lol
>>532995134>Very possible that the Gerald Ford got hit.Reactivate your twitter Cirno.
>>532993018kek
>>532993140>Bibi and his pet Trump enter the chat
>>532995183that cirno faggot bailed from twitter? lmaooo
>>532994926Look at Russia from 2000 to 2022. Putin literally saved a country in ruin. Not on the brink but a real deal dead country parasitised by the west, revived it back to life with sovereignty. Prigo was a clown. Not even remotely the same league as putin and lavrov. He'd either sell out the country or chimp out and drop a nuke. Putin purged a ton of jew oligarchics btw. That's why they hate him.
>>532993429This.
>>532995004Wagner was legitimately doing 'meat wave' attacks. They had a faster tempo but casualties would be much higher in some parallel reality where prigo took gerasimov's job. Listen man drones make ground advacment extremely slow. There's no way around that. Literally reversed the relative safety of open ground vs urban fighting. Building to building urban fighting is literally more survivable than being in open ground in Ukraine. If the u.s. puts ground troops in Iran they are going to find out real hard. Maneuver warfare is effectively dead with drones in the field and no 'genius' commander can change that.
>>532994643Who cares?
>>532995183Read it as aircraft carrier
>>532992934you couldn't have said it better, also day 3 of retard miga shill claiming houthis are bluprint for unblocking hurmusi, also, Bloomberg news is rent free in centcope shill.
>>532994316I think you may be onto something. I seriously starting to think they truly believe USA controls Israel instead.
