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>>532994372>best and final offerWhat did the americans offer outside of "we will stop bombing you?"
vance airborn
bombing shitskins is always a good thing and so I am happy we're going back to that
>>532994444>We will control the straight and we will tax the ships coming through and we will bomb you later FINAL OFFER! MAKE A DEAL!
>Half time break almost overQuick make your predictions for what happens in the second half of the war
>may 2026>you are a us marine>trump sends you on a ground invasion of iran>its 40c outside>you hear a buzzing suddenly a drone is headed right for you>you have 100lbs of shit on your back and couldnt run if you wanted to>your death is made into a lego clip on twitter
>>532994444why would we offer anything else fellow american from america?
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS SAY THANK YOU
>>532994444no Happy Bridge and Power Plant Day seems like a good thing doesn't it
Talks status?Hormussy?!
A source close to the Iranian delegation has told the Fars news agency that the US was “looking for an excuse” to leave the negotiating table.“The Americans needed the negotiation for their lost face in the international arena and were unwilling to lower their expectations despite the defeat and stalemate in the war with Iran,” the source said.“Iran has no plans for the next round of talks,” they addedAl Jazzera
>>532994444they increased their demands, the US demand now includes US control over the strait of hormuz (iranian territorial waterway)it is insanity, the US got their asses handed to them and instead of scaling back the demands are not more maximalist in all points with unacceptable ones being added on top
>>532994444seem pretty fair
>>532994533>the strait of hormuz (iranian territorial waterway)Total bullshit, the strait has always been considered international waters.
>>532994495>America brute forces through Strait>Invades Cork island>more stupid shitAbout it desu the entire thing was to get Euros send their ships in and die for Israel
>>532994510Iran didn't even say Thank You ? wtf were they thinking
>>532994471Are you Iranian or American? which shitskins are you talking about?
>>532994502>your death is made into a lego clip on twitterEven better, it'll be made into a webm with sunoslop music or Benny Hill.
>>532994495Israel and GCC getting bombed.Iran getting bombed.Israel lost again in Lebanon.
>>532994444>we stop bombing you, unfreeze your assets, remove sanctions>you give us your enriched uranium, we monitor your nuclear energy program, and we share the hormussy that's a fair deal
>>532994587Threatening Greenland seems to have dispelled the shabbos goy spell over europe
>We told the Iranians that they must give in to all of our demands and then maybe we'll give them some concessions down the road in a couple of years, and they said "No", can you believe that? All they had to do was to recognize Israel as their overlord, hand over the Strait of Hormuz to us, dismantle all of their ballistic missiles, drones, military bases, underground weapons production facilites and nuclear facilities, and agree to never enrich uranium ever again, while allowing us to continue sanctioning them, arming separatists in their country, and building military bases around them so we can attack them and overthrow their government in a couple of years. They're so irrational and unwilling to compromise!
>>532994502Having you death recorded and displayed in a humiliating fashion for the whole world to see is pretty much half the reason no one wants to go to war now.
>>532994507Because a negotiation implies willingness to give something up in exchange for something else. The other options are pretty shitty unless you really want to go to war for real. Or we could just walk away from it all.
How long until Bibi seethe bombing restarts this
>>532994576international law lola migger invoking international lawdid somebody ampute your brain?
>>532994618Was Israel unironically banking on strategically isolating Hezbollah?
>>532994459Israel about to do the funniest thing
>>532994576Look it up. You're very fucking wrong. The strait is NOT in international waters.
>>532994650anon Iran won, the US begged for a ceasefire and talks, why would they concede anything?
>>532994676You are the one who brought it up in the first place, retard.
>>532994660nah it is because the US traded the ukraine war for Iraneurope was only this hyper cucked to Trump because the US essentially held hostage the war they started
>>532994660you're letting us build 3 new bases anyway
>>532994576Last time I checked state terrorism was considered illegal under the international law.
>>532994676>t. german
>>532994650Counter offer >you get fucked and run home with your tail tucked between your legs while Israel gets wiped off the face of the planetthat’s a fair deal
Wait, what if the reason Spain is against this war is because they want to control the strait of Gibraltar?
>>532994660America can threaten to cut off all aid to Ukraine or else they die in Iran for Jews and EU will do it like the goyslave cattle puppets they are unfortunatelyUp to public will to do something about it
>>532994772https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfaQmAbeHvc
>>532994576Not since 1994 when UNCLOS went into effect.
>>532994772>israel attacks iran>iran attacks the gulfyea you sure showed them
>>532994743We don’t care about that we just want to put our flag there and do funny science experiments
>>532994717It’s considered a navigable waterway for trade. At least until now anyway, oh well.
Filter miggers on sight. Do not engage.They should be socially isolated
>>532994729its iranian water, like maduro to you is a terroristyou fought it out, we now know that the persian gulf is a persian waterwaythe global leader in piracy running the "freedom of navigation" shtick is rich
>>532994650That was the deal the Iranians offered except handing over their enriched uranium, instead they would dilute it and keep it under IAEA monitoring. The U.S. wanted Iran to dismantle all of their ballistic missiles with a range of 500km or more, dismantle their drone production facilities and destroy all nuclear energy facilities including Bushehr. Miggers are literally retarded.
>>532994650Sorry the hormussy is Iran's property. Besides sharing is gay
>>532994790its because they are commies and commies always hated israel anon (after they founded it)
>>532994810Makes sense to attack the countries hosting the American bases where the initial attacks came from.
>>532994598>which shitskins are you talking about?(You)>>532994666>Because a negotiation implies willingness to give something upRight, stop bombing. That's the thing being given up. Why give up anything else besides that?
>>532994810Strait status? Gulf bases status? Carrier battle group location?
>Trump and co. are okay with worldwide economic catastrophy because they are raped kikeslavesPeople will look back at this war as one of the most retarded, destructive events of the 21st century.
>>532994868source? >>532994899yea bro that'll sure show israel by attacking the gulf
>>532994795Yeah nah you fucked upShould’ve tricked us into Iran first then cutoff Ukraine and threaten Greenland but orange man did it the wrong way now we’re out of the good goy club
>>532994790Spain would get raped very, very hard if they put on big boy pants for whatever reason.
>>532994863>its iranian wateryou seem to be leaving out oman. why do you want imperialist iran to steal oman's rightful water?
>>532994650>israel not includedyou have a deal
iran should hit the burj khalifa with a few shaheds just for shits
>>532994790Moor's strike backThat would be one way to kick mutts out of europe
>>532994921The people who survive the economic collapse and the famine will.
let's run it back boys
America won, get over it
So are they going to continue the talks or not? They should in my opinion give it a few days at least.
Kill every single migger holy shit
Negotiations were successfully concluded, main actors are returning home to report result to relevant parties, technical teams remain in Islamabad to iron out the final details.
>>532994444That's pretty powerful leverage on its own, I hope you realize. Iran's ability to strike back is basically limited to the strait and to gulf states. They can't hurt the US directly to deter further attacks and the disruptions to oil trade hurt it's primary benefactors far more than it harms the US. It can't protect its critical infrastructure and can't deter further attacks.Whether it can hold the strait closed or not, it will need to make concessions at the negotiating table to protect the existence of its regime. The question right now is whether the secular negotiators actually have the power to offer those concessions or whether the Muslim death cult will force them to fight to the last Persian.
>>532994921If this doesn’t cause TKD nothing will. Absolute insanity.
>>532994921Better start stocking water Saudibro.
>>532995012US left with their assholes gaping
>>532994909And Iran had already said it wasn't surrendering. So why ask for farcical negotiations?
>>532994950>source?Aragchi when he spoke to Tasnim a couple of hours ago.
>>532994807>american telling american about his UNCLOS obligationsguys we can pirate whatever we wantit's in the constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11
>>532995025again I ask for a source
>>532995012Nah, Vance wants to go home, he doesnt want to deal with some lame shit like peace negotiations
>>532995012Israel is 100% going back to bombing Lebanon and Iran now.
>>532994678Hamas is done and for Hezbo this is the best and the last chance for Bibi to eliminated the last Iran circle near them.
>>532995012I think JD is on his way home...Donald would have to go do the next round of negotiations
>>532995050Gaped mainly by Israel. Disengagement is their best option right now. but their jewish overlords won't allow it.
>>532995051It's a war crime to not surrender after your entire military was OBLITERATED.
>>532995012A few more days of economic assrape and they'll probably be begging for a deal by the end of the week.
>>532994921Ironically you could say Trump being a stupid nigger and self-destructing ZOG earlier than possible should be an accomplishment of respect
>>532994891>after they founded itThe jews communism? Or communists israel?
>Source to Tasnim: ‘Iran is in no rush. The ball is now in America’s court. They have some time to reconsider their miscalculation, while the Strait of Hormuz remains closed.’
>>532994795Who the fuck cares about cuckraine anymore. Some euro countries are already saying to jewlensky to stop messing around and russian ships are not being stopped because europe needs that oil and gas.
>>532995085>Hamas is done and for Hezbotwo more weeks and Hamas will be defeated
>>532995085hamas and hezbollah are ideasthey will always exist
>>532994956it is up to iran how that waterway works, fake multilateralism does not workstop the dumb tricks and sophistry miggeryou run the show by rule of the fist, now you lost out you can kill iranians but not achieve your core objectives in this1. not have israel destroyed with missiles2. have the energy flow freely3. not have the GCC energy infrastructure destroyed in an iranian retaliationSo this means that you must make sure that Iran feels that they got something to lose.The US decision is now to go scorched earth, play dumb tricks until the situation is fucked anyway or to eat crow.It is going to be dumb tricks followed by scorched earth. Then israel gets destroyed in the process though. (Nukes or not)
>>532994963Would rather they start targeting palaces desu
>>532995012>Got 2 weeks to resupply>""""tried"""" to negotiate so they can say Iran was being unreasonableUSA got what it wanted why would they talk more?
>>532994650>freezes assets and introduce new sanctions afternow what? ameriKKKans showed that they are not trustworthy again and again. why would iranians trust them?
>>532995037If Iran makes the Gulf states kick America out then the petro dollar collapses and America goes bankrupt and balkanizes into a yugoslav tier civil war overnight
>>532995136Iran has no fucking idea what is going on do they? They're so disconnected
>>532995155We're silently pushing Orban out so Hungary under its new kikeslave can ok a billion dollar grant for Ukraine to not shit itself further
>>532995130It's not worth ruining my quality of life and career trajectory over the next decade, if not the rest of my life (if dollar dominance collapses at current debt levels). Somehow, every other president was able to thread this needle.
>>532995037The US is limited in what it can do to Iran as well, and domestic politics in the US play a very big factor in this. If you think just throwing bombs at Iran is going to break their will you are probably mistaken.
>>532994921Feel bad for all you guys in the Gulf but frankly your leaders are the ones who had to step in and put the foot down so this shit doesn't happen. Only King Faisal was willing to use your leverage
>>532995088>next roundlol
>>532995174>it is up to iran how that waterway worksAccording to who?
>>532995073You will see. They will play around for a couple of days and then Trump will meet Iran's Supreme Leader or President or whoever and "negotiate" and "seal the deal" just like he did Putin. Everything was pre-arranged.
>>532995037Iran can pelt israel with ballistic missiles for a year.Even if everything else is taken out and keep the strait closed just with shahedshouthi style.
why haven't oil prices spiked?
>>532995187pretty sure there'd be wording that if Iran started doing shit again the sanctions would go back on
what should they rename the hormuz to ?
>>532994444I am sorry you failed to know the irannies have already admitted before this meeting their complete FUCKEDNESS
>>532994502Sorry zigger trash, the USA protects its assets since it spends enormous amounts of time and money training them.USA doctrine doesnt allow for meatwave fpv drone sacrifices.It will never happen that way. In fact this whole thing is probably happening in part because USA wants to develop viable anti drone SOP.
>>532995133kibbutz are commie projects
>>532995037It can force them to choose between Empire and Israel, the US functionally ceases to exist if GCC infrastructure is permanently taken offline or the strait remains closed for a couple more months.
>>532995068Sure if you want to act goofy you can. But it was in response to someone claiming the strait was always international waters, when that statement is false.
>>532995215It was inevitable, do you want pain or later is the question.
>>532994444They offered that they'd stop bombing them for a bit and if the Iranians didn't comply they'd be bombed and that this was the last chance for Iran to accept it or the bombing would continue.
Has Q detailed the rest of Trump's plan?
>>532995235as they say, to the victor belongs the spoils
>>532995246https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HwunkVed0c8
>>532995244USA(kikes) was never going to lift sanctions on Iran. Profit from hormussy is nothing compared to global USA mandated sanctions on Iran.
>>532994650What’s stopping the US from immediately reneging on this “deal”, re-enacting sanctions, and restarting bombing?>answer: nothingSo the US would permanently disarm Iran in exchange for them becoming a slave state. Sounds like a bad deal given Iran is winning.
>>532995188That would unironically be the best thing that could happen for humanity. A complete collapse of the U.S. empire would lead to world peace for the first time in human history, especially if Israel got sanctioned by China and the EU, and all the greedy ziorats left the sinking ship.
Holy fuck the amount of actual shitbrown muzzrats and ivans on this site. Lmao.How does it feel being globally raped daily and being unable to ever strike back at US homeland? Kel
>>532995114OBLITERATED and DECIMATED and we got the MVP TROPHY FOR THE MATCH and our K:DR REIGNS SUPREMEgrow up.
>>532995037If that's a pretty powerful leverage then why did the US beg for a ceasefire so much all this time? Why did they beg for Iran to come to the negotiations table? Don't get me wrong, Iran loses a lot by getting bombed, but let's not pretend the US comes out less harmed by allowing the global energy sector to collapse and trigger the mother of all depressions, castigating their allies, losing countless lives and depleting their strategic munitions. All because they wanted to follow their hook nosed masters into an apocalyptic prophecy
>>532995315Ok, so then america should be the victor and bomb iran's infrastructure.
Meanwhile
>>532995315>to the victor belongs the spoilsnigga no one has won anything yet
>>532995188the american financial system wont collapse overnight without the petroldollarit got started by the petroldollar but it got far more complex since then the particular issue holding this up is the petroldollar already creating it's power among itself and many nations holding american tresuries.
>>532995228you'll never make Trump look cool, migger
>>532995350no you can't because then Iran destroys the global economy on which your hegemony rests
>>532995331we had sanctions relief on the table before the war ffs >>532995332>What’s stopping the US from immediately reneging on this “deal”, re-enacting sanctions, and restarting bombing?international guarantors iirc
>>532995164But they don't have the capability to start another war against Israel if Hezbollah lost.
>>532995244nvm migger
>>532995051No idea. I guess because Trump threatened to bomb all their power plants and bridges and it scared them.
>>532995257>the USA protects its assetsYeah those gulf coast bases are very secure and protected
>>532995363Holy shit that little Mexican is completely coked out
>>532995270you're both wrong, free transit of hormuz and about 20 other straits is protected under customary international law
>>532995085Anon, Hamas still exists.
>>532994724>the US begged for a ceasefireIran's initial condition was "no ceasefire without an end to the war". They didn't get that.
>>532995391Damn, ok we should just drop some nukes on them before they can do that.
>>532995393the US is a nuclear rogue state, nobody can restrain US actions on behalf of a third party
>>532995390damn this post almost made me forget how fucking cool that pic is
>>532995402ah yes right right DRUMPF is a heckin chud amirite sisters? fuck ice!
>>532995377The American financial system collapsed over $5 a gallon petty back in 2008 and then they bailed it out and kept printing money so no one would notice that it had collapsed. It's a walking corpse.
>>532995427they've had a regime change though
>>532995243Market is closed, dumb dumb
International Law is dead. International Treaties are dead and have as much gravity as monopoly rules. Waving around pieces of paper after not only ignoring them but actively flaunting them for well over two decades has to be the most cynical display of mockery in history.No, Iran is not bound by International Law.
>>532995393>we had sanctions relief on the table before the war ffs>on the table Are you joking or are you this dumb
>>532995440that would not open the strait and still destroy your empire, harder than the other optioninstant mass proliferation
>>532995332>What’s stopping the US from immediately reneging on this “deal”, re-enacting sanctions, and restarting bombing?Ideally, the removal of Donald Trump as POTUS.
when do the explosions continue ? I wanted peace
>>532995398there are 100 charred merkavas in southern lebanon right now buddythat will inspire one thousand soldiers
>>532995332>winningIran's entire military and government hierarchy were assassinated daily until they came to the bargaining table.That is where you are now. That is what happened, objectively.Now iran replacement leadership will decide if they want to die or if they want to make a deal that doesnt include nuclear proliferation or insane attacks of civilian vessels in a waterway.
>>532994495I honestly think we're in the endgame of the war. Iran is at the negotiating table because they're scared, not because they want to compromise. A whiff of diplomatic of conciliatory language and their arrogance will get the better of them again-- as we saw today. But as soon as they realize there's no bluff to call and hostilities resume, they're going to rush to offer a deal.The key to understanding this war is realizing that Persian pride prevents Iran from seriously negotiating except from a position of strength. The more they feel they lack that strength, the bolder and more petulant they become, because they're terrified of losing face to their own populace. But they're also terrified of being trapped in a strategically futile and unwinnable deathwar. If they don't find that position of strength here with the strait closed, they aren't going to find it in the kinetic exchange. This is exactly why they accepted the ceasefire in the first place, they know this. Faced without an easy out, the fear of futility is going to quickly outpace the fear of losing face.
>>532995440strait will still be closed, and then god knows the consequences of such a decision
>>532995422Citation needed. And not just an opinion.
>>532995377>it got started by the petroldollar but it got far more complex since thenThat’s true but it makes the situation worse. The whole thing has become a satanic house of cards that just needs a good kick to one of its legs to collapse.
>>532995506>if you kill your enemies they winNo, wiping out 90 million people with nukes means I win. To the victor go the spoils, international law is cringe.
>>532995506>instant mass proliferationNo one cares what Europe does and all of Americas natural enemies already have proliferated. Pointless threat.
DJT here. Patriots I would like to take a survey. Should I nuke Iran and exterminate all the sand niggers in a blast of God like proportions. Number 2 blow the dams North of Tehran, destroy Kharg Island, turning sand nigger kingdom in a zombie land of death and destruction and allow the women to escape to be sold in New York. I need an answer soon because JD and the boys are on the way home and I will initiate one of the two options. If you give me the right answer you will win a night of sexual pleasure with Hillary and Bill Clinton. Thanks Patriots. Donald
>>532994921This is so fucking unbelievable to me, Iran would gladly accept USA leaving Israel alone so they can be bombed by Iran and then eaten alive by Hezbollah. But nooooooo our greatest ally shit that doesnt even make sense if we imagine for fun there is no shady shit underneath.
>>532995523Holy fucking copium. Answer my questions, shill-kun.
>>532995393>international guarantors iircYeah that helped Ukraine
>>532995523This is by far the most retarded thing I've ever read on /pol/ so far.
>>532995341>How does it feel being globally raped dailyFeels great.
>>532995506I'm starting to think that perhaps Biden was too soft on Trump and his voters.
amerigolems awaiting new orders from the racemixing headquarters
>>532995188>>532995334you really need to stop huffing copium
>>532995550You think you could just nuke shit without consequences?Whats gonna stop Kim from nuking Japan?
>>532995494>Iran is not bound by International Lawof course they are and unlike you neutral fags we're imposing international law on them as god intended
>>532995498https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/22/iran-us-diverge-on-sanctions-relief-iranian-official-tells-reuters.html
>>532995398But Hezbollah, unlike Hamas, is not solely supported by outside actors. Hezbollah may be a proxy of Iran, but it often has a larger offshore impact than Iran due to its connections with the Lebanese community abroad in places like the US, Australia, and Latin America. In fact, while a majority of their funding comes from Iran still, it was estimated in 2018 that 1/3 of Hezbollah's money comes from illicit activities in Latin America around Brazil, Paraguay, and Argentina. Destroying Hezbollah will only occur if Israel kills ever last shi'ite in Lebanon, and they're more than welcome to try.
>>532995565NUKE THEM BACK TO THE STONE AGE
>>532995518>I wanted peacethrough strength, right?
>>532995633>Whats gonna stop Kim from nuking Japan?Getting nuked back?
If this is a real peace negotiation, why isn't the Secretary of State there?The Vice President has no power.The other guys Trump sent are there because they had sex with his daughter,
>>532995341>Holy fuck the amount of actual shitbrown muzzrats and ivans on this site. Lmao.>>How does it feel being globally raped daily and being unable to ever strike back at US homeland? Kel
>>532995523>But as soon as they realize there's no bluff to call and hostilities resume, they're going to rush to offer a deal.they have been begging for a deal for weeks, they diffinetly want to make a deal.they have been Obliterated
>>532995582
>>532994372Why do these faggots bother shilling here? And they sound so similar and unconvincing, I can't tell if it's a script or a bad LLM. And they have been doing it all day. What is the point? I hope their little cuckshed in the Negev eats a cluster missile.
>>532995547Do you have a source on that?Source?A source. I need a source.Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.Do you have a degree in that field?A college degree? In that field?Then your arguments are invalid.No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.Correlation does not equal causation.CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.Nope, still haven't.I just looked through all 308 pages of your user history, figures I'm debating a glormpf supporter. A moron.
>>532994921And all because of Israel and nut case evangelicals. Literally you take these two out of the equation and this war, or any other war in the middle east from the last 23 years wouldn't have happened. Israel will be looked down in history as a pariah, as a parasite that thwarted any attempt at world peace
>>532995427And where are they right now? Gaza is more peaceful than the whole Israel region right now instead sending missile to Tel Aviv.
>>532995670Japan doesn't have nukes. Will you nuke Korea for Japan? Even if your ally South Korea becomes uninhabitable, and prompting China to nuke you?
So whats the deal now? Tehran bombings back on the menu?
>>532995521Iran has pelted israel with missiles for 40 days.Has taken out for 2-3 years 20-30% of GCC energy and other production.Has against the US navy kept the most critical naval chokepoint closed.Has zoned out the US navy and airforce by thousands of miles or forced to hide.Can still fire after surviving mass bombardment.The only way to open the strait is to negotiate with iran.The only way to stop full destruction of the entire GCC is to prevent Iran from having nothing to lose.The only to prevent Iran from destroying israel over the next year with missiles is to make a deal. (now we know the number of missiles being in the many thousands)There is no military solution to the US dillema, no clever trick to get out of it.No third party who can gurantee, demand or help the US to achieve it.
They're gonna assassinate Ghalichad and Chadghci aren't they
>>532995521>Now iran replacement leadership will decide if they want to die or if they want to make a dealOr this is theatre by the ruling class, like Covid.Something to blame for the coming energy, food and fuel shortages.And something to blame the coming financial crisis and eventual financial reset.
>>532995650why didn't you mention the biggest one, venezuela?is it because we're quietly uprooting their financial networks and iran has no one to cry to while we do it?
>>532995736The deal is Iran does what we want or we kill their government again until somebody who does what we want sits down in the chair.
>>532995684Would you say they've been... decimated?
>>532995684And yet Iran still controls the straight. The copium among miggers would be funny if it wasnt so sad.
>>532995663that's what I was promised so yeah I think I'm entitled
>>532995471the petrol dollar is the main reason they could do that, but it's more complex than that now. it's actually weak now because the leveraged money is in shitty ai companies that mostly exist as pump and dumps. there's no homerun investment. even in lockheed and shit since their top shit got owned of recent.
>>532995766Don't think US material is protected enough for the clap back if that occurs now.
holy based
>>532995731>and prompting China to nuke you?In terms of most to least likely, it goes >China does nothing>China nukes North Korea too>China nukes the US Over the US nuking North Korea.
>Guys, come here. Look at what this retard just posted
>>532995806good just wanted to make sure you weren't a communist
>>532995437>withoutdoesn't change it was the trump constantly asking for a ceasefire and negotiations
>>532995703Haha loser so mad> Ships of all nations enjoy the right of innocent passage through the territorial sea.9 On the other hand, coastal States have broad and durable security interests in the territorial sea, and may prescribe and enforce laws that condition or preclude altogether the surface transit of foreign warships.http://www.virginia.edu/colp/pdf/kraska-legal-vortex.pdf
>>532995745This is what shitbrown muzzrats actually believe.I look forward to reading your cope when Iran cucks and bends the knee.
>>532995785The problem is that Iran doesn't need a government in order to make missiles and drones and keep the strait closed
>>532995785Good Luck with that strategy. How quickly you reckon its gonna open the Hormuzzy?
>>532995785>we>tfBro stop pretending to be American. You're a latino mestizo at best. We're more likely to accept you as latinos than the US accepting you as their own
>>532995548I wouldn't bet on that bro, they knew this day would come. If you're the only billionaire in a region where there's only millionaires and there is a crisis.. those millionaires will lose everything and the billionaire will buy all their shit.
>>532995890ITS ALREADY OPEN RETARD THE US NAVY SAILED RIGHT THROUGH LMAO
>>532995633>iran can destroy the global economy without consequences>but you can't nuke without consequences because...you just cant ok?!
>>532995805>Iran still controls the straightthey control the strait as much as we do. denial of service is not controlling the strait it is denying the strait. we can do the exact same
>>532995771Because Venezuela wasn't the biggest one, Brazil is. Also Venezuela is still allowing Hezbollah aligned groups to operate inside the country because they work with the cartels.
What do you guys make of the rumors of the new ayatollah being disfigured? If true, is he going to have kino mask in future public appearances?
>>532995838>>532995855damn what a contrasteverything's on the line for iran
>>532995865what do you disagree with?the US can hold irans civilian infrastructure, people and national prestige hostagethe US can not stop irans core military capacity (the missiles and drones)it is a mutual hostage situationiran got israel and the world economy by the ballsthe flailing united states holds irans civilians as hostage in returnas the US is the aggressor party it is clear who the villain is and who can end this confrontation at any time of their chosing
>>532995785>somebody who does what we want sits down in the chairThey already kill him. Only hardliner available now and the citizen will riot if they accept even slightly unfavorable deal.
>>532995863you don't know what customary international law is do you
>>532995838Is he doing UFC stuff right now?What an idiot.
>>532995932>denial of service is not controlling the strait it is denying the straitPhenomenal cope
>>532995952would be metal af
>>532995863So where does it state a nation has the right to assassinate another nations leadership and civillian population without declaration of war?Either we're doing what we are permitted to, or we're doing what we are able to.Have it one way or the other.
>>532995924All you need to do is cut out that cancerous growth, champ. Are you really that much of a pussy?
>>532995855Funny and accurate. Reports that Trump's post were being read and Iran would go back to maximum demands
>>532995963> it is clear who the villain is and who can end this confrontation at any time of their chosingthe US has offered to end the war. iran has not offered to let go of the strait.
>>532994372MIGA
>>532995550Irans population isn't confined to the capital city, you would need hundreds of nukes to wipe out all of them, and you still wouldn't stop them hitting you or open the straights, plus you'd have nukes getting shot down and they prob throw them at your master israel
This is a slow-burning nightmare that’s just begun…I want off this ride, Mr. Bones, it’s not funny anymore
>>532995987he's been there all night lmfao
So what is their plan after this? They can't rearm fast enough and interceptors are in the double digits.
>>532995523You wrote all that just to be retarded.
>>532995952The ayatollah is a cardboard darth vader. wow so scary
>>532995831Jews got Soleimani and nothing happened
>>532995736The ceasefire will continue.Part of the reason that ceasefires give wide time limits like this is to allow these pauses in negotiations, which are a natural part of the process.Most negotiations begin with both sides presenting maximalist positions and trying to conceal what concessions they're actually prepared to make.If negotiations well and truly die here, they would still let the 2 weeks run their course because the time places pressure on the other side to soften their position as the threat of resumed hostilities draw near. And after those 2 weeks, hostilities would resume.What's actually likely to happen is that Iran will remain instransigent until the last 2 or 3 days of the ceasefires then suddenly offer the US a concession bundled with a request to extend the deadline. The deadline gets extended, Iran publicly denies making concessions to avoid appearing weak to its audience and the process repeats.
>>532995865>As of April 2026, the Philippines is in a declared state of national energy emergency following the closure of the Strait of Hormuz due to the war in Iran. >With 98% of its oil imported from the Middle East, the country faces critical fuel shortages, having only roughly 45 days of reserves. That's rough bro, I hope you guys at least produce enough food.>The Philippines relies heavily on food imports, acting as a net importer with an agricultural trade deficit of roughly US$13 billion in 2023. >It is one of the world’s largest importers of rice, alongside heavy reliance on imported wheat, meat, dairy, and animal fodder, often driven by high local production costs and inefficiencies.Damn, you guys are fucked.
>>532995745>Iran has pelted israel with missiles for 40 days.And accomplished very little>Has taken out for 2-3 years 20-30% of GCC energy and other production.They haven't >Has against the US navy kept the most critical naval chokepoint closed.Took three tries but you hit on something true>Has zoned out the US navy and airforce by thousands of miles or forced to hide.They're hid so hard they conducted the largest air campaign since Desert Storm>Can still fire after surviving mass bombardment.Relatively small salvos of weapons that are incapable of delivering decisive strikes>The only way to open the strait is to negotiate with iran.Perhaps>The only way to stop full destruction of the entire GCC is to prevent Iran from having nothing to lose.They can't actually do this>The only to prevent Iran from destroying israel over the next year with missiles is to make a deal. (now we know the number of missiles being in the many thousands)They can't do that either, also lmao at buying the most retarded propaganda
>>532996048There is no plan. There hasn't been a plan beyond the first 4 days.
>>532995935that's not true, and I don't think that's why you omitted it.islamists and communists are shrinking, converging, both geographically and ideologically.
>>532995987its based, you think he cares about iran right now? literally not that important in america, no one cares. thats how weak and defeated iran is
>>532996067LolDelusional
>>532996067Funny you think Bibi isn't rushing to launch a bombing and restart this
>>532995932but you want the straight open to keep the oil flowing? US and Iran have different objectives at the Straight and Iran is the only one meeting their objective.
>>532996079Cope
>>532995859>doesn't change it was the trump constantly asking for a ceasefire and negotiationsAnd immediately following that up with "if you don't we're just gonna keep bombing you lmao"
>>532996021the US has demanded unconditonal surrender and is dictating termsI said the US can chose to end this war at any times, not that the US can dictate terms in a war they lost so severely that they need 2 bit hucksterism to sneak a ship for 30 minutes into the persian gulf and crow about it as grande victory.The other victory? Getting a plane shot down and not facing a hostage crisis after a massive gamble succeeded.
>>532996086>NO PLANwhy does it feel 2020 in here
>>532995523Jesus Christ this leaf faggot again, I was writing an offensive reply in the past thread but I realized it was not worth it, congrats on the (You) this time, hope your owners at Eglin pay you a cent more for this.
>>532996071Philippines is giga fucked by this war I don't know what that pinoy boi is on about. Far worse than Japan or china
>>532995987And getting booed
what happens now that iran has a whole bunch of AA...is it safe to fly over iran anymore
>>532996056Because iran wasn't on the war path then.
>>532994372What did Syria to him? WHYY niggeryahu wants to kill Al Jewlani? what is his problem???
>>532996167he just got shouted out by the winning fighter you delusional retard
>>532996041Ivanka right behind him.She wasn't at the fights before.Full Jared control.
>>532996071living in a country that relies so heavily on the strait only gives him an even greater incentive to not want iran to charge tolls. >>532996150>the US has demanded unconditonal surrenderlol what, not true at all.
>>532996079Have you seen the footage of al udeid and the recent uncensored GCC damage reports?
>>532996079Now this is some migger cope
>>532996139I accept your concession sheep-kun
>>532996191How many years until Jordan is red again?
>>532996146America is a paper tiger Iran won bigly and the president has to go to the UFC completely coked to not break down in public
>UFC>At the fucking White House>On the same day the Important negotiation happen>No media bashing himThis is some Idiocracy stuff happening IRL.
>>532996101>OPEN THE FUCKING STRAIT RIGHT NOW OR IM GUNNA GENOCIDE YOU>not that I care or anything....Convinced no one award
>>532996224I think she's gone to a few desu
>>532996228We don't always get what we want. You'd think the last month has made that painfully obvious.
>>532995932A new low of /k/opium
>>532996136>US and Iran have different objectives at the Straight and Iran is the only one meeting their objective.short term iran needs it open too. they have to make that deal, they are completely out of cards
why doesn't the us just invade and occupy iran, throwing hundreds of thousands into the meat grinder and tanking the global economy in the process?it's what's best for israel
>>532996228>lol what, not true at all.you demanded that the ayatollah resigns and that your president becomes co ayatollah
>>532996183Iran has a whole bunch of AA last year And a whole bunch of AA at the start of this war.Radar AA isn't survivable to modern DEAD tactics.
>>532996255Nigga you Italian do you even know what a military is?
>>532996159Comparing those shitholes to the ancient Iran...
Iran's negotiating position is far stronger than Trump's as Iran has nothing to gain or lose, but Trump faces a new Great Depression and Democrats winning 2028 and coming after him, his family, and his supporters. A lot to lose on that side if these negotiations fail.
>>532996272the strait is open, the USN smashed its dick into it today
>>532996239You’re getting ass blasted by sand people with flying lawnmowers KEK
>>532996079Iran turned their airforce into museum pieces (only purpose is to take pictures and post online) instead of losing it. They are winning!
>>532996256Seldom has an Empire been this ripe for instant and complete collapse. And noone would even mourn it.
>>532996079>And accomplished very littleTook 12 out of your 14 bases>They haven'tThat's true, they actually took 40% out>Took three triesIt is currently closed>They're hid so hard they conducted the largest air campaign since Desert StormAnd accomplished very little, 2 carriers are out for "reparations">Relatively small salvos of weaponsSmall enough because there's no interceptors left>They can't actually do thisThey did take 40% out already>They can't do that eitherPerhapsYou are losing, mutt boy
maybe if genitally mutilated amerimutt mystery meat gene freak jewcucks lower their whiteness by a further, 41% they will realise why noone trusts them anymore KEK
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>>532996256Trump has been going to UFC events for years lmfaogay talks in pakistan aren't going to stop the heems
>>532996256Don't insult president Camacho, he actually wanted the best for his people and worked toward it
>>532996256I mean its UFC, have you seen the average UFC fan?
>>532996284war is economically positive.
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>>532996277>european literally unable to comprehend the concept of supporting your own interests>>532996299that was not part of the negotiations at all.
>>532994859They should be put in camps.
>>532996284the US can't get into 1-2000 km of iran with troops, jets or ships without getting targeted with missiles and dronesiranian terrain and size means some 100k are not enoughthey tanked 1million casualities and chemical warfare against saddam
>>532996101You won, tranny.
>>532996136>US and Iran have different objectives at the Straight and Iran is the only one meeting their objective.Iran needs the strait to be open just as much as everyone else. Its always only a short term play. The question however is how long that "short term" really is, because they can't keep it closed indefinitely.
>>532996191Greater Israel.
>>532996323how many ships passed through the strait today?
>>532996357>His smile and optimism gone
>>532996333Trips of truth.
>>532996311centcope lied and zogmutts died. Imagine hiding in hotels and getting bombed like the pussy faggot you are, aaaak!
>>532996400Why they are selling their oil to China and their ships leave freely
>>532996416that was a while ago desu
>>53299638250% of the strait of hormuz, trump as co ayatollah
>>532995468go back to your plantation migger slave
>>532996323>strait is open cope againStarting to sound like a broken record. Next you'll proclaim you never wanted it open anyway.
>>532995186It hasn't even been a week
>>532996311>American hasn’t read a history bookVery, very funny
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>>532996452He has been dead inside for a whileSpending time with Bibi and Levin kills you from the inside
relax people>favorable developments towards temporary peace deal>temporary peace deal framework being negotiated on>temporary peace deal signedall will come in due time for wall street opening on mondayyou don't think they blow their load early on this LARP fest, do you?
>>532996404that's a whole lot of future wars for israel
>>532996463trump tweets and what was actually proposed in the negotiations are two completely different things. are you fucking retarded?
>>532996344>you see if I just say "IRAN IS WINNING" over and over again its true!You can think America is retarded for starting this war and also admit that Iran's ability to resist is extremely limited. Though that may be a level of nuance that cartel snuff bait like yourself isn't capable of.
Imagine trying to secretly move the logistics of a mobile Burger King military deployment gaggle of joes and keeping it off satellite. Future war looks so god damned bleak.
>>532996494>>532996497Fucking turbo niggers you two fight to the death to determine which thread we use
>>532996494>>532996497retards
>>532996549usually you go with the first
>>532996400Why were ships trying to spoof as Chinese to leave the gulf, retard migger? are you by chance the same shill who unironically was asking that China will force iran to open the strait, a month or so ago, retarded miga shill who seems to think much the same?
>>532995728Today was their deadline to agree to disarmament. Wonder how that went.
>>532994650Literally worse than the Obama deal kek
>>532996067For everybody's sake I hope you are right about more negotiations to go down the way and some of them will go better than this absolute shitshow.Iran will likely drop the nuclear bombs but not the enrichment, they were already under the IAEA and they were saying iran were not pursuing any nuclear bombs.Jewsa needs to drop the bases in the ME and the kikes needs to drop the attacks on gaza and lebanon to have any kind of concession from Iran tho. Heck i think even charging the toll can be dropped but the enrichment, lifting the sanctions, the defense of iran, lebanon and gaza are not negotiable
>>532995393>international guarantorslolhave you not noticed everyone is arming themselves? because its now plainly obvious that powerful nations will never ever keep their word unless it suits them or they are dealing with another nuclear power, or someone who has some kind of powerful deterrent.
>>532996575>look at iran's words, not the 80 chinese ships still trapped in the gulfstop having a machine think for you
>>532996344>Took 12 out of your 14 basesIran hasn't taken a single base>Destroyed 2 carriersThey're just fine, headed back for routine overhaul while 2 more took their place. >currently closed>US too afraid to get closeIn violation of cease fire and 2 US navy ships transited anyway.
>>532996071Sounds like dumbass pinoys need to actually develop their agriculture. They have the land.
>>532996048Plan?
>>532996151maybe because the handling of the pandemic was as awful as the handling of the conflitct in the ME
>>532996680>routine overhaulYou're trying to say routine maintenance to downplay how fucked they are but even then you can't hide the lie.
>>532996165It's a zogbot in the philippines
>>532996656>Jewsa needs to drop the bases in the ME and the kikes needs to drop the attacks on gaza and lebanonLMAOwhat are you smoking?
>>532996740you lost tranny
>>532996048They are going to take interceptors from North America command, ship over a ton of special forces for some more call od duty fails like the one on Easter, and probably ship a bunch of rocket artillery to Bahrain and Kuwait. They may or may not try to reestablish themselves in Iraq.
>>532996566>>532996494why would you split the bake you fucking idiot?
>>532996656liar, iaea wasn't able to certify them which is the worst rating you can get from iaeamultiple secret facilities they couldn't enter etc.
>>532996372It is not. Basically no economy is better off for having gone to war, even if you win. It's the broken windows fallacy writ large.
>>532996772>overhaulNo I said overhaul for a reason, it is specific term and both ships were overdue. Military ships go in for overhauling once every 2 years or so.
>>532995981Sure I do. It is superseded by explicit international treaties however. :)
>>532997446and as you know, iran is not a party to UNCLOS and neither is america.customary international law regarding the strait applies and we will enforce it. or we might toll it ourselves since the constitution authorizes privateering and letters of marque.
>>532994459Are you sure that's it? It should be the c-32a clipper blue on the bottom like air force one on a 737 frame iircAlthough I'm not seeing it on flightradar or asdb exchange
>>532994717So there's maybe 1-3 band of international water in the middle I think even less but due to traffic separation scheme and depth of the gulf the traffic in and out of the Gulf is within the 11 miles or whatever that is territorial water. Iran on the North oman on the south I forget which lane is which direction
>>532995523I hope iran gets nuked diaspora scum.
>>532995037>They can't hurt the US directlyGas $5 by June at the latest
>>532995675Oh shit that's a really good point. Rubio probably gets diarrhea from Punjabi food.Even weirder since Vance's wife is a Hindu nationalist aligned basically inherent enemy of the pakistanis
>>532995745Buy beans and rice and figure out how to handle water. >>532996056Ayo where Kobe at? Sorry but you're dumb. Raisi died the same way as Kobe odd huh? On his way back from Azerbaijan which houses mossad bases. Look into Kobes pilot area zobayan
