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Trump card in the game. This will surely break Iran.
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I dont have America blockading the strait of hormuz in my bingo book
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>>533005847
Iran gets supplies overland from China and Russia....

and Turkey, and Pakis, and Afghans, and Iraq, etc.
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>>533005847
A naval blockade only works if your enemy is:

1) Only fielding weapons that can't effectively target your naval units
2) Is reluctant to attack your navy due to geopolitical pressure

Neither of these is true with Iran. Losses are about to get real expensive.
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>>533005847
>He now wants to close the strait himself
You can't make this shit up
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>>533005847
I'm picturing that meme of Russia and/or America stabbing itself while a horrified Europe and China watch except it's just Iran watching America stab itself.
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>>533005847
What's the point of war if you're never willing to use nuclear weapons?
>inb4 eglinfag "nukes r fake" flerfer garbage
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>>533006166
Iran and Oman will have to pay $3 million per ship
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>>533005847
did someone say IRAN WAR
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>>533006315
Just wait until they find out that china is blockading usa and will charge $10 million per ship!
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Laundry fire incidents about to increase once again.
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>>533005847
>It's a game of Battleship with no pegs

The "nukes are fake" niggas might be on to something
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>>533005847
Is he crazy? Why’s he revealing his cards?
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>>533006275
What's the point of war
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>>533005847
The answer to Iran closing their nations territorial waters is for the US to go full pirate and block international waters?
What if China wants through? WW 3?
Can Trump not fuck this up even more?
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>>533006812
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>>533006874
its kind of genius, he can declare himself a peacemaker at any minute
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>>533005847
They can't get a destroyer within a few hundred kilometers of Hormuz island when the Iranians are shooting back so I Can't see how they think they're going to take control of the whole thing.
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>>533005847
Why is he talking about himself in third person? Or was he referring to Netanyahu?
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What if we just follows Frances example of paying the toll and ignoring the jews?
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>>533005847
>setup blockade
>secure the straight with marines
>charge everyone fo safe because they didn't want to help for passage
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>>533005847
Didn't globohomo keep the us navy well away from iran? What are they gonna do, fly planes and bomb every ship goong into iran?
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>>533006772

Because it's a much stronger hand. Iran doesn't control the traffic. The USA does. If the USA blockades it, it removes it off the table. It affects Iran's position. It assumed control over something it doesn't have control over. It's primarily Iranian shipping anyway. No more. Blockade. It doesn't violate a Ceasefire, it enforces it.

However what's the point if Iran aren't negotiating anyway.

Where at this point one has to ask why America is even trying to negotiate with Iran. Iran has proven itself incapable and unreasonable.

Iran didn't have control over the strait prior to any conflict, so at what point does it assume it after any conflict? How does the terrorist brain actually work. You can see it's completely maniacal. Any intent was obviously destabilising the region, and so it built up exactly for that reason.

Hence it becomes really clear on how to proceed
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>OPEN THE STRAIT OR I WILL CLOSE THE STRAIT
This is getting sad
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What navy
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>>533007317
Securing the strait with marines (you would have to land them first) won't stop Iran from shahedin' ships 1000 km away or sending in drone boats from the rest of their coast. Also we would get kino of maga marines getting chased by drones
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>>533007375
>Iran has proven itself incapable and unreasonable.
Iran has proven itself capable. The US is unwilling to meet its demands because the US won't admit it lost. A US blockade instead of an Iranian blockade changes nothing except making less oil get onto the global market, further increasing prices, hurting third parties, and increasing Iran's leverag
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>>533007375
autism mixed with insanity.
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>>533007526

What are you talking about. Simple steps for simple minds. If Iran didn't have control over an international waterway prior to any escalation. Escalation where Iran was building up, weapons, nuclear weapons, and threatening destabilisation of the region with its terrorism, how on Earth, on this planet does it assume, it can seize control over something once there is peace?

Bzzt. It will simply keep destabilising the region regardless. Bzzt. Ding. Come on.

But okay on what planet does it get something it didn't have prior? Go and figure that out and come back when you do.

No, don't. Sick of the terrorist mind. Tick tock
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so he wants to start war with china as well?
these jew fellas are retarded, no wonder they always get btfo
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>>533006491
The US will just sink the chink boats, what Iran should do is double whatever the US charges
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>>533005847
A blockade against fucking whomst?
I do believe that Iran has no ship left bigger than a skiff. They get all their shit on land routes anyway.
Are we gonna blockade random ships or what the fuck?
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>>533007884
if there's not blockade why is Drumpf threatening a double blockade????
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>>533007765
Ignoring the nonsense Israeli geopolitical talking points and sticking to the strait:
>The US can't ensure free passage
>The strait being restricted hurts the US more than Iran
>The US fully closing it changes neither of the above
If you can't wrap your strategic genius round those facts there's no helping you
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>>533007317
globohomo already sharted the entire world for safe passage through 'the straight', you retard. it was called the opec cartel and its petrodollar, and it exported globohomo's inflation.
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>>533007375
Lmfao the migger cope is getting retarded. Wait until you find out that Iran was selling its oil for damn near free for several decades because of ZOG sanctions. There's a reason the orange retard unsanctioned it in the first place.
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>>533005847
so is the US going to shoot on Chinese and Russia ships that will ignore the blockade ? welcome in ww3
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>>533005847
>>533007375

export from iran:

do it like russia with Cuba:
>china sends its own tanker(s) with warship(s) and chinese soldiers on deck to the loading sites of iranian coast of Indian ocean. Will USA attack chinese?
There are possibilities to export also via train and pakistan, but that would be only second best option

import:
either same as export or Kaspian sea, Pakistan, Iraq, Turkish, Aseri, Turkmen, Afghani landroutes - smuggle if local regime is in cahoots with USA. They have been under sanctions for many years - they have their established routs.
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>>533007884
Trump has no ability to lead it appears, he just keeps lashing out. If he blocks the iranian tankers(the same ones he lifted sanctions on a few weeks ago), then oil goes up. If he lets them through then there's no blockade. Trump doesn't understand the implications of each decision, he can't see past his nose. Essentially he's doing the worst possible thing which is denying the world the very thing it needs to survive- hydrocarbons, and dragging out the conflict so it guarantees pain to the west. He isn't blockading iran, he's blockading the planet. And ukraine bombing russian oil only makes it worse. We're talking about a complete collapse of global trade and potentially $300/barrel for oil. Countries have some stockpiles, but those will run dry in months, america imports 6 million barrels/day as it is, so we won't escape this either.
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Coming soon.
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>>533008131
>he can't see past his nose

its not his nose he can't see beyond
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>>533007299
then you're a cuck
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>>533005847
checkmate iran
you don't have the fucking cards
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>>533008036
>reddit buzzword
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>>533007995

What are you babbling about. Iran doesn't control the strait if the USA has blockaded it. What's Iran going to do? I mean seriously?

It doesn't hurt America. It affects Iran's position. Iranian shipping is blockaded and so is anybody else paying Iran. Shipping it thought it controlled. No. Blockade.

Hurt America. The Barrel price hurts nation's who produce oil a lot less than it affects everybody else. When it's Iran's main export and exported via the strait. It hurts Iran.

But at this point they don't even know what hurts them. I'm sure they'll find out
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>>533008378
I refuse to believe you aren't baiting. If you're serious, condolences for your retardation.
Have a good Sunday.
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>>533008235
>we must join an unwinnable forever war that makes oil $150/bbl because Iran is demanding a $2/bbl toll on oil that is normally $60/bbl
I don't mind funding cluster munitions falling on Jews when I buy gas.
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>>533005847
lol
lmao
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why would he have to block anythhing when it's wide open and Iran is defeated? You shills are just trying to discredit the special military operation.
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>>533008675
90% of the Muslim world hates Iran.
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I would like to see them try something this retarded and desperate.
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>>533008697
Have you asked personally?
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>>533008769
Pretty much and I'm living in a muslim country with lots of different background. Literally nobody likes them
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>>533008769
have you ever met a muslim that doesn't?...
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The will have to reroute their oil exports, they have done this before during the gulf war but lets see if they can do it again.
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Trump is in an unwinnable scenario here. Iran is just not going to give up even if you nuke them. Was it really worth it to go to war for the jews?
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>>533005976
Maybe Russia, but UAE has completely shut them off from Iran. China's Iranian railway has been destroyed. Iran is isolated and its mainly their fault. Blocking the Hormuz would make the decision to open in America's hands.
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Has anyone considered that Shia Islam could grow after this war? If i was muslim, the sunnis would look like total traitors and cucks to me. Even if it´s propaganda, Iran does sell this as a holy resistance very well.
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>>533006247
The vast majority of Europeans, support Iran imposing tolls on Hormuz, despite the fact this will hit them harder than everyone else (they cannot afford to pay the same prices for US crude that China, Japan, Korea etc can).

It's not just browns, but most Europeans who are against the US and Pissrael
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>>533008372
>migger
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>>533006772
what? hes linking a news article. he probably didnt even realize he could do that until he read that headline, now hes passing it off as his own
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>>533005847
A naval blockade of a country that already blockaded itself by closing the strait?
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>>533005847
You're out of cards
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>>533007884
They still have oil tankers and bulk transport vessels, you can still see them on Marine Traffic.
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>>533011458
Is this the infamous Q-Anon?
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>>533008811
>>533008838
You have to realize that we got the bottom of the barrel shitskins, all the decent ones stayed in their countries
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>>533005976
>Iran gets supplies overland from China and Russia....
Trucks, trains and ships in Caspian sea can not.be bombed , sunk.
OK
LOL
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>>533005847
Blockade what? The straits of hormuz? They're already blockaded, that's like the only reason Iran is winning the war lmfao
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>>533005847
Half of chinas oil comes from there. If they the try to stop chinese ship they're going to send their own warship to escort them. Not to mention the possibility of opening the door for arming iran with high kinetic weapons and creating similar fiasco in south china sea.
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>>533006058
this, few Khorasan rockets and the ships will back off away to the ocean, how they did few weeks ago....

Fun thing is the western AA systems do not work against these iranian rockets which have special rocket accelerator for the descent phase
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>>533005847
But... It is already blockaded?
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Trump is terminally online
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>>533005847
This retard hasn't paid attention to Ukraine war? They'll just send little cheap drones and sink his gay ship.

Can't this fat retarded boomer pedophile just die already, same applies to all bomers.
TBD
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>>533006275
Nukes are fake retard.
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>>533014209
if nukes are fake then explain the need for low-background steel. also explain the urtabulak solution
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>>533006772
I am watching Donnie for years now. I can tell you something about that beast of a man, my spanish fren. First thing you see is the obnoxious dirty old man clown with that ridiculous hairdo, self entitled billionaire with a big mouth and no respect for anything.
It is a trap. It just diverts the attention. Donnie controls the markets with his agressive patter. That is the real deal. He knows, or rather to say Donnie's masters know that some loud words from him can make the market swing on their behalf.
In other words, they make money out of scaring people with their Donniesaurious.
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>>533008811
Yeah, bro. It's a well known quality of muslims to absolutely love le heckin jews, MIGA!
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>>533013512
Please try to sink a ship sailing under a Russian flag and see what happens.

>>533005847
My favorite part was when he said that he and Iran could share the income from the strait. It was a pure wtf copium moment. Like, dude, you have lost, you are not getting shit, what the fuck are you even doing,

>>533008077
This. All China has to do is to send a single ship there. If iit doesnt stop and they decided to not shoot at it,the bluff has been called and trump gets humiliated. If they DO decide to shoot at it, then its WW3 and just given China a terrifying excuse do do the same.
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>>533013512
migger cope
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Such a Genius, blockade all of Iran's ships.... right guys? Iran has such a massive navy, and a MASSIVE commercial fleet.... right? Oh wait
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Also this makes me realize this whole situation is just like Russia / Ukraine, the US miscalculated badly, and cannot save face, and their leaders are too arrogant / stupid to just admit they fucked up and leave. Trump and the retards around him have this stupid mentality that they can never do wrong, and that nothing they ever did was the wrong decision, something Trump learned from his gay faggot mentor Roy Cohn.
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>AAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEE IF YOU BLOCK THE STRAIT I'M GONNA BLOCK THE STRAIT!!!
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>>533009027
>China's Iranian railway has been destroyed.
Rail repairs take days if not hours to complete.
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>>533014290
>urtabulak solution
explain why it is no longer used
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>>533005847
>america is now threatening to blockade the strait that they previously fought to open
What the fuck is this even? Make it make sense.
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>>533005847
Kek nobody is afraid of you any more... Go ahead. Bring it back!
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>>533015123
>Trump and the retards around him have this stupid mentality that they can never do wrong, and that nothing they ever did was the wrong decision, something Trump learned from his gay faggot mentor Roy Cohn.

This is literally just jewish histrionics. Feminine, neurotic, schizoid behavior.
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>Iran cant blockade the strait of Hormuz if we blockade it ourselves
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>>533007375
>Where at this point one has to ask why America is even trying to negotiate with Iran. Iran has proven itself incapable and unreasonable.
Eventually if we keep killing their guys one will pop up who isn't completely unreasonable
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>>533015598
You literally couldnt do that to the Taliban and you had 20 years fucking around in a sandbox for it. What makes you think you have the time to do that in Iran when they are able to crash the global economy within weeks and bomb the shit out of your overlords at the same time?
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>>533015598
>Eventually if we keep killing their guys one will pop up who isn't completely unreasonable
It'd be easier if Iran just did that to you instead. Get someone who isn't a fucking retarded monkey in the white houes.
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>>533005847
>i wake up
>i get a headache from american stupidity
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>>533015832
Iran is waiting for that, midterms are only 6 months away, if this clown show is still going on democrats will absolutely roll over republicans and that's going to put an end to anything Trump could do for the rest of his term.
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>>533005847
If you knew history you might wanna rethink the attitude, the Nazis could tell you a lot about what sorta terrors this entails in practice, especially in a bombed out country.

And that while Germany is not even hampered by mountains nearly as much.
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>>533014898
You don t know how many Russian ships ukr destroyed and how many Russian shadow tankers got seized by USA.
More than 6 so far.
What happened?
This time the.russians could not even draw a red line.
ahahahhahahahahah
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>>533016067
What the fuck are you even coping about, nafotranny?

Are you intentionally not trying to comprehend what would happen if the US navy tried to seize or even just attack a ship under Russian flag? That is literally the purest casus belli material possibe.
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>>533009027
Destroying railways is pointless unless you are in range to cheaply keep up constant bombardment or something, it's easy as hell to repair.
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>>533015123
The difference is that US can't win a war 9999km away from it unlike Russia that's bordering Ukraine.
Gulf war the other countries around it allowed the US to stage an army for months to get enough numbers, now no one is really into this new war.
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>>533016340
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>>533015967
> democrats will surrender to the sandworms
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>>533016067
>What happened?
Russia cucked the UK
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>>533005847
Oh for fuck sake. He might want to look at a map, you haven't got any ships in the Caspian sea Donnie.
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>>533007317
How are they going to setup the blockade in the first place? This isn't Cuba. Iran is willing to fight back and has weapons that can touch the US fleet.
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>>533005847
This weird nigga is obsessed with his "cards." I wonder if we will learn years later that they started during WH poker nights, after Barron got addicted to gamblingshill channels.
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>>533007375
>unreasonable
>your leaders are negotiating w the US
>they get vaporized along their entire families by their Greatest Ally, thus making it clear that negotiations = certain death
Iran fighting is the only reasonable position. It shows they're not a cucked nation.
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>naval blockade
>warships ran from the gulf like pussies

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>533007375
>Iran doesn't control the traffic. The USA does. If the USA blockades it, it removes it off the table.
If Iran blows up all the oil refineries & fields in the gulf, it will indeed remove it off the table.
If Iran hits the desalination plants or power plants, you'll see civil wars erupt all along the gulf, and the puppet states the JewSA spent decades propping up will crumble overnight.
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>>533005847
He should do it so then there'll be no way for western vassals to claim it's Iran's fault the strait is closed.. Let America take all the blame and see where that get's them.
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He has no idea what he's doing, he'll come up with some other far-fetched scheme in the next 48 hours or so and this will be forgotten
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>>533005847
So hope Iran sinks a carrier
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You faggots still don't understand that america has long since imposed a toll on the world, on every transaction conducted in USD. What he's threatening here would accelerate the destruction of this system and thus the USD. Therefore, he won't do it, or he'll make a taco in two days. An invasion is more likely than ever.
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>>533016902
TOTAL
BROWNIES
WAR
ENTIRE REGION REMOVED FROM THE PLANET
DO IT NOW
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>>533007375
>Because it's a much stronger hand. Iran doesn't control the traffic. The USA does. If the USA blockades it, it removes it off the table. It affects Iran's position. It assumed control over something it doesn't have control over. It's primarily Iranian shipping anyway. No more. Blockade. It doesn't violate a Ceasefire, it enforces it.
Damn, consider me caught
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>>533016902
...Oh no, not muslims eating themselves, anything but that!
It's always funny that retards like you forget their own side is exactly as flammable as their neighbors.

And then wonder why their own end up so crispy so frequently.
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>>533007375
>Iran has proven itself incapable and unreasonable
Really reminded everyone why half the world fucking hates Britain. I guess it's genetic...
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>>533016902
They just need to keep the pressure on the USD. Too much destruction isn't good, since all of this will eventually belong to the Persian Empire.
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>>533005976
The America is cucked.
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>>533017224
>Oh no, not muslims eating themselves, anything but that!
The investments of those muslims is the only thing propping up the US economy right now.
What happens when they need to redirect their money?
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>>533017325
Above all, the american empire is on the brink of collapse and seems to be aware of it. All of this, starting with syria, served to give the region to israel. Iran was the final boss. Either israel or iran will rise to become the master of the middle east.
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>>533007375
Are you retarded?

>Because it's a much stronger hand. Iran doesn't control the traffic. The USA does.
It's not difficult to control traffic in Hormuz(even Houthis managed to control the Red Sea), what is important to remember is that it open until US/Israel started the war.

>However what's the point if Iran aren't negotiating anyway.
They do no agree to the terms given by US/Israel, because it would negatively affect their national security.

>Where at this point one has to ask why America is even trying to negotiate with Iran. Iran has proven itself incapable and unreasonable.
???

>Iran didn't have control over the strait prior to any conflict, so at what point does it assume it after any conflict? How does the terrorist brain actually work. You can see it's completely maniacal. Any intent was obviously destabilising the region, and so it built up exactly for that reason.
Again, Hormuz was open before the war. Now, after Iran was attacked, they see the strait as leverage against future aggression.

>Hence it becomes really clear on how to proceed
Peace, because otherwise Hormuz will stay closed.
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>>533005847
damn fucking straight. we can't use it? then you can't use it either. get fucked.
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>>533017607
Zelensky supports Trump's special military operation in Iran.
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>>533005847
iran will just shoot rockets at american carrier and it will just run away like the ford one lol
houtis already did that many times last year
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>>533017667
>Let's raise oil prices even more, that will show them!
The retardation of the mutt knows no bounds.
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>we don't care about the strait
>in fact, the current situation with the strait is good for us
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>>533009027
Reparing a railway cost 200 dollars, China will probably even help Iran witht he repair costs.

Bombing a railway costs millions of dollars.
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>>533017684
Jewlensky did what any jew would have done. He saw his chance to get a share of the sheikhs' immense fortunes. Jewish greed is perhaps the most predictable phenomenon in the world.
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>>533007765
>jibberish
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>>533017754
Yeah thanks bruz but it was literally me who made that when I got home on the PC
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>>533005847
If Trump is delusional enough to park USN assets in the strait then Iran would be fools not to send them under.
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>>533013784
And? Who cares? The US can just sink the Chinese ship.
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>>533008131
>He isn't blockading iran, he's blockading the planet.
Maybe this mankind will not push and fuck with the white man the next time? This is what we do. It makes no sense, but this is it.
Women gets back to kitchen, muslims gets back home, niggers back to africa, gays and trannies back to closet - and
>there will be an end to the horror
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>>533009027
>has been destroyed
it was repaired. This took 40 hours.
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>>533018082
Just drop cluster mines on the railways after bombing, then they have to demine everything first which takes ages.
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>>533017996
Trump won't do anything to further damage the global economy. He didn't even intend to harm the iranian oil industry. Only after israel launched its first attacks on it did he act as if that had been the plan. He definitely won't stop any iranian tankers or anyones else. But perhaps israel will.
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>>533018058
>Maybe this mankind will not push and fuck with the white man
You're getting bankrupt unless you start begging Russia for help.
Guess what's going to happen to your economy once Germany is too poor to import from your country? Take a wild guess.
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>>533005847
How long until another laundry fire or toilet explosion?
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>>533009027
>UAE has completely shut them off from Iran
Did you know that the UAE is on the other side of the strait of Hormuz? If the UAE is on the other side of the strait, and if Russia has a continuous land route to reach Iran... how, exactly, has the UAE "completely shut [Russia] off from Iran"? Looking forward to your response.
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>>533018156
wur grimes innit
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>>533005976
>lol supplies
How the fuck is Iran going to pay for supplies without selling oil? If Iran can’t ship oil they will be back to eating camel shit.
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>>533016711
Mines laid by aircraft.
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>>533018293
>eating camel shit
You're confusing the iranians with your allies, the saudis, airman.
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>>533007375
Please pick another flag when posting such bait in future, vpn-kun
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>>533013965
the Iranian SRBMs also can't hit moving targets for shit. if one of Iran's SRBMs does hit an American naval asset, it's going to be open season for Chinese ships in the area.
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>>533014137
How much explosive do you think is on a drone?
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>>533015328
It makes perfect sense. U.S. economy not hurt as badly as others with it closed.
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>>533018390
>vpn
As if your five eyes jeets wouldn't post exactly this kind of shit.
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>>533018193
We're best buddies with Norway.
So much so, that we should actually get a room and have segs.
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>>533007375
>Iran has proven itself incapable and unreasonable.
Ridiculous jewish nonsense on both counts
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>>533018499
>It makes perfect sense. U.S. economy not hurt as badly as others with it closed.
Come on, airman. We've explained to you a million times why that's bullshit and how the USD works.
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>>533018410
>it's going to be open season for Chinese ships in the area.
Even if you're butthurt enough to shoot Chinese ships, you won't be retarded enough to actually do that, it would mean no more Chinese products shipped to your country, and it would mean war, they can retaliate on your ships too Mutt.

All your bases in East asia vapourise in smoke.
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>>533017768
America doesn't get our oil from the straight you shit for brains pothead, plus a higher oil price means America makes a ton of money. I take a subway to work. there's no downside for me.
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>>533005847
>If you don't open the strait, we'll close the strait.
BRILLIANT
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>>533018156
>which takes ages.
Not really. Just bomb it yourself. That's a lot quicker. Not like there's anything usable in the minefield anyways.
Or, alternatively, you build a new railway 10 miles over.
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>>533005966
>I dont have America blockading the strait of hormuz in my bingo book
Red Skull did.
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>>533005847
Berletic was talking about it from before the war even started
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>>533006772
Because he doesn’t have any and is desperate to look like he has things under control in the eye of the public.
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>>533015967
Why do you foreign-fags keep typing this? “Muh midterms” will mean next to nothing. A two-year lame-duck is powerful. Dems winning some local seat in a state legislature isn’t the same as winning a congressional seat or senate. Your “wave” will be more about claiming victory than achieving it.
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>>533018410
>the Iranian SRBMs also can't hit moving targets for shit.
That's why they have anti-ship cruise missiles, retard.
And USVs, AND USS's, AND FIACs.
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>>533018509
Is Norway going to give free oil to Germany too?If not then it won't matter because Germany still can't import anything from you. You dodged the question because you are scared of answering it.

Guess what's going to happen to your economy once Germany is too poor to import from your country? Take a wild guess.
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>>533018504
thank you, that's a much better flag, appreciate it
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>>533006275
Nukes are obviously fake retard. The (((powers))) that be literally control all of them. They are not above using weapons like that to get their way. There is zero reason they would not use them if they had them. These are evil psychopath demon worshippers
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>>533018599
A weakened global economy means less trade, less trade means less demand for USD, less demand for USD means game over for the american empire. This is not rocket science.
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>>533018599
America gets DIESEL from the strait, shit-for-brains. The thing that runs your transportation.
Why do you think the cost of diesel soared past the cost of petrol, even though normally it's cheaper?
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>>533018293
Infinite credit from China.

Are you retarded to think you were fighting them alone and your biggest geopolitical rival is not watching you to get stuck in an absolute clusterfuck with patient glee? Literally all China has to do is to issue them some loans on paper and bam, the Iranian state is solvent to the heat death of the universe. Especially to buy Chinese drones, ammunition and missile parts

>>533018581
it wouldnt even be a war with China, just a wild fucking melee in the US, as shelves go empty and the consoomers turn on each other in desperation before the shops as niggers loot and set everything ablaze.
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>>533018839
China wouldn't dare.
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>>533018293
They just spent the past 6 weeks selling double what they usually do, at double the price they normally sell it for.
So to 'normalize' their budget, you'll need to cut off all their exports for 24 weeks at least.
And that will only bring them back to break-even.
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>>533018761
Nazis squeezed diesel out of stone.
If prices goes up, it becomes a no brainer to start Fischer-Troptz plants in big scale. Any organic matter will do.
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>>533018839
>China will pay Iran to damage global trade and make it harder for them to get oil

this whole read depends on the idea that China is as death-to-America-focussed as Iran, which hasn't historically been the case.
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>>533018694
Americans hate Iran war and high gas prices. Republicans could have put literally anyone up for the ballot and they would have still won simply with those "I did that" gas price stickers that they had about Biden. If Iran war is still going anywhere near the elections then democrats will absolutely sweep the elections.
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>>533018931
>China wouldn't dare.
Chinese overseas lending is currently undergoing a transition. During the decade from 2010 to 2020, Chinese policy banks – particularly the Export-Import Bank of China (Exim Bank) and the China Development Bank (CDB) – provided extensive loans to many countries across the Global South, and became the largest bilateral creditor to many such nations. Data from Global Development Policy Center shows that Chinese policy banks lent approximately $500 billion during 2008-2021, which amounted to 83 percent of the total lending by the World Bank. The primary focus of these loans was infrastructure development, and Chinese loans proved to be a useful political and economic tool for many countries that had infrastructure financing gaps.
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>>533005847
>be terrorist state like one you called terrorist state to own them
flawless retardation
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>>533019015
>We'll just start new plants
Which will take 6-9 months at the least.
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>>533018931
Wouldnt dare what? Not ship to the US after you sank one of their ships? What are you going to do, try to threaten them into giving you stuff? What if they just say.... "No.". What is the plan then?

>>533019016
There is zero chance they aren't going to let their biggest geopolitical rival get ensnared and crippled in the middle east, possibly permanently for such astoundingly low expenses. They are certainly going to do it.
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>>533018599
>a higher oil price means America makes a ton of money
Oh, we have a nationalized oil industry, do we?
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>>533018931
China has been sending aid to the Middle East since day three. The idea that a siege would bring Iran to its knees is ridiculous.
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>>533018839
So what do you think would happen to people in this collapse scenario who previously supported China.
Like every registered Democrat?
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>>533019071
China is going to have a big problem if they help Iran.
Trump said so himself.
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>>533019179
Will he forgo rare earths again?
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>>533005847
from claimining total victory on day 1 to doing acts of desperation
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>>533019103
Any civilized nation should have at least year's worth in reserves. And, Norway is in the hood.. We're good. Trump won't dispatch a fleet over here.
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>>533007884
>taking world hostage
I'm starting to think Trump is like Hitler, sacrificial chicken to enable jewery transfer to new host, China (like in ww2 from Weimar to USrael)
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>>533019179
Oh no.
Anyways.
Friendly reminder that the zognald tried to tariff the Chinese, and then found out that he's completely dependent on the Chinese.
Oh, and China just restricted REM exports, without which the JewSA can't make its weapons.
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>>533019179
>big problem
problem like what? china has a nuclear deterrent and more importantly, has cultivated strategic US reliance on multiple exports
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>>533006275
>US should nuke Iran on behalf of Israel!
oy veh. dat MAGA trash (((psyop))) really packs a punch doesn't it?
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>>533018761
>even though normally it's cheaper
Not here. Diesel is usually more expensive here because they have to refine the living shit out of it to remove the sulfur.
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>>533005847
Naval blockade? So it will be iran's naval blockade versus america's naval blockade, then? Because iran is currently having a blockade of their own right now, after all. Also, china amounts to 90 percent of iran's export and the chinks are currently working hard on getting that landline of thdirs up and running, so if they manage to make that happen soon, then an american blockade won't really have too much of an affect on iran, will it?
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>>533019262
>Norway
I was talking about the JewSA.
The krauts were able to do it, but only after the "Wollt ihr den totalen krieg? JAAAAAA".
Meanwhile the US public absolutely hates this conflict, and wants to see the zognald executed for it.
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>>533019166
Join the brawl before the shartmart for the last bag of HFC infused snacks. Why on Earth would China care?

>>533019179
And what is he going to do? Seethe hard? Send angrily worded letters? Ramble on his twitter or truth social or whatever its called? Remember then during his first term he tried to start a trade war with China and lost? A few decades late on trying to stop them from extending credit to other nations. Russia would certainly do the same too,
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>>533005847
I hope the west doesn't win.
But I don't think this type of business-model (pay or get shot) is acceptable.
Imagine everybody does that.
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>>533005847
He won't block China.
>>533007868
They won't dare touch a Chinese tanker
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>>533019267
>new host, China
Lmao. China won't let them in. Otherwise, the first migrations would have taken place long ago.
Rather, China's anti-corruption policies and its strict avoidance of foreign loans have made it completely immune to jewish infiltration.
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>>533019246
You do realise that if every single military in the world united against The United States Military that The United States Military would bring the rest of the planet to its knees in less than 30 days, right?
It's specifically designed that way and there's room for redundancy.
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>>533007375
You all seriously replied to this with that spacing?
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>>533009027
shalom
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>>533019432
>China won't let them in
China would let them in. After a stay in the Uyghur re-education camps. Then they get to live under total surveillance, and they'll be sent to jail on the very first indication of jewry.
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>>533015598
>Eventually if we keep killing their guys one will pop up who isn't completely unreasonable
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>>533019368
The norwegian's... those fucks are the biggest fucking traitors on earth, man, they stubbornly insist on only selling their oil for whatever the international market price is, they're never going to do europe any fucking favors, dude.. european unity is fucking dead, it's everyone versus everyone now.
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>>533008378
>doing Iran's job for them hurts Iran
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8 go dil8
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>>533019444
>The United States Military would bring the rest of the planet to its knees in less than 30 days, right?
They're currently losing the war they started 44 days ago against 1 single opponent.
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>>533019444
No one disagrees with that. But have you ever asked yourself who finances the US military? Especially since the US doesn't have its own industry.
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>>533019267
They'll be put in re-education camps like the muslims.
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>>533019444
That's what xerxes thought, as well, and alexander was still able to humble him, wasn't he?
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>>533019368
Trump has a vision, or people behind Trump.
>could explain the electric car push
Which would mean this has been planned for decades. That if there's a temporary shortage in diesel and gasoline shit doesn't come to full stop.

I won't judge the man. He might be on to something actually great here. I find this very interesting.
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>America has to spend a billion a day naval blockade to keep the strait open
>mfw the strait used to be completely free and open 5 weeks ago
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China did good by publishing the sattelite photos of american occupied zones, it was a signal to countries like Phillipines and Japan: "we know where you hide the americans, they are not safe from us, and neither are you"
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>>533019596
>Trump has a vision
Trump couldn't even predict that the Iranians would close the strait of hormuz, even though the entire fucking world said this would happen.
>He might be on to something actually great here
He's genuinely fucking retarded, and always has been. He only got to where he is because of his daddy's money and connections. And the back-stabbing of 'allies' has left him surrounded by retarded sycophants who are just as retarded as he is.
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>>533018417
Sea drones? Apparently enough to sink russian ships.
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>NUH UH! YOU'RE NOT BLOCKING THE STRAIT
>ACTUALLY, I'M THE ONE... BLOCKING THE STRAIT
Holy fuck trump is an actual retard
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>>533005847
no landing anymore?
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>>533018417
Depends on the drone.
Anywhere from 5lbs on pic related to 1500lbs+ on a USV.
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>>533019644
The increased reliance on US oil means they'd make that back in an hour. Huge net boon for The US. Can't stop winning.
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>>533019697
Fog of war, deliberate mixed messages to keep everybody guessing and on toes.
I recommend everybody to calm their tits and see what actually happens and not pay that much attention to what is said.
>looking at Alex Jones and Candace peculiarly
We can all take little insults, right?
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>>533005847
IT'S HAPPENING!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116391830634836370
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>>533019920
Based.
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>>533019908
>Fog of war, deliberate mixed messages
Yet they also forgot to bring any boats, retard
>Strategy is when you place the vessels you need for the operation you're planning for off the coast of Los Angeles & Malaysia, and then have to rush them in 3 weeks into the war (that was supposed to last 4 days).
Holy shit you're retarded. Are you a mutt expat?
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>>533009027
> Iran blocks straight
> america sends war ships to block it 40 days later
> WE HOLD THE CARDS NOW
> America goes bankrupt
> somehow miggers will claim it as a victory
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>>533019535
Mainly because it's a limited SMO, which was dumb. In a balls to the wall war where the US is giving everything its got and everyone in the population is on task, it could take on the world. Problem is the population would never do that.
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>>533020075
>Mainly because it's a limited SMO, which was dumb. In a balls to the wall war where the US is giving everything its got and everyone in the population is on task, it could take on the world.
In a "Totalen Krieg" the JewSA would fold in under 6 months, because it has no manufacturing base.
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>>533005847
extremely based
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>>533020014
>Additionally and, at an appropriate moment, we are fully “LOCKED AND LOADED,” and our Military will finish up the little that is left of Iran!
why would iran make deal if the US going to destroy them anyways
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>>533019920
Kek. The pakis did the "you have such a big penis" thing with trump. Rest of the post are old news.
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>>533005847
>HERE'S HOW TRUMP CAN STILL WIN
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>>533020166
And you think these people can have a nuclear weapon? Get a grip.
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>>533019179
Hmm.
Looks like Trump will have to round up everyone who has a drop of Chinese blood and everyone who has ever posted in support of China and place them in the internment camps I built for them.
>inb4source
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>>533020129
>it has no manufacturing base
It has shrunk for sure, but it's not nothing. Besides, there are also newer factories in Mexico, which would immediately become war factories for the US.
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>>533020035
Trump has his ways, man.
Unorthodox, and I kinda like it.
https://youtu.be/skdE0KAFCEA
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India stepped in the poop.
But they are not clever enough to figure out it was because they helped the Americans kill the unarmed people aboard the IRanian frigate.
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>>533020336
>every single military in the world united against The United States Military
>Mexican factories would become war factories for the US
You're retarded, anon.
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>>533020339
You're just proving yourself to be more retarded than he is.
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>>533019661
>rotorwing undergoing salvage gets his with a drone
>whole base destroyed
Do chinks really?
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>>533020572
You're just confused. It's understandable.
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>>533020652
>Dozens of missiles and drones over the course of weeks
>No, everything is fine
Mutts really need to kill themselves. Preferably by running into one of those IEDs with rotors, so I can wank to the video.
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>>533020652
>whole base destroyed
Your soldiers fled into civilian hotels to find human shields.

This is good learning for the Chinese, they will know exactly what your soldiers in Singapore, Phillipines, Japan, Korea, Taiwan will do.
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>>533018499
>U.S. economy not hurt as badly
It's still hurt
I am kinda impressed with Trump for making a move that benefits absolutely no one. US bases got bombed, rising oil prices screw over US consumers, Europe, Japan and S. Korea gets expensive oil which hurts their economy, which has a knock on effect on US, gulf states get bombed hard and will take years to recover, Israel gets bombarded and weakens them, westenr weapons get spent leaving their other allies weaker, India and China also gets screwed over by oil prices. Closest that comes to benefitting is Russia but our export capacity is limited and destabilized Iran hurts us in teh long run. I can't point to a single country on the map that was better off after it started
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>>533008068
ww3? what countries would be joining to help iran? because we all know it would be usa and israel as the axis of evil
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>>533020572
His sons are earning crazy amount of money, everytime he's announcing something stupid then withdraw from his decisions.
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>>533021106
>I can't point to a single country on the map that was better off after it started
China gained a lot of valuable simulation data.
They learned the behaviour of Amerimutt soldiers, where they will flee to when their base is bombed, etc.
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>>533005847
Then we’ll see what China’s all about.
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>>533021106
If you assume that this is about who rules the Middle East in a multipolar scenario, and further assume that trump belongs to mossad, then it makes sense. Without this shitshow that started with syria, the Middle East would have fallen to Iran as soon as the American empire was forced to withdraw.
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>>533005847
US ships can't even get close to Iranian shores. This is another meaningless bluff from the jew cocksucker
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>>533006275
Earth is round and nukes are fake. You trying to equate flat earth with ideas you don't like is jewish and woman coded.
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>>533019535
>They're currently losing the war they started 44 days ago against 1 single opponent.
Do you think a brain- and soulless subnigger understand? Turns out their "bases" were undefendable camps and they have to hide in hotels behind civilians instead dying in tents. UShithole is the most ridicoulous empire ever, but acting as an rabid hyena makes them dangerous until we slay that beast.
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>>533005847
If they get serious with this, their NATO allies might end up sinking a carrier.
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>>533021356
Fairly limited and more could be gotten out of Ukranian war
>>533021407
Without the chaos and Iran being backed into a corner I doubt they would be ready for agressive moves. And Iran is yet to be taken out, doing so would be expensive and hurt Israel more than before
Maybe they would reap *some* benefit in the long run
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>>533021419
This. The last carrier as incapacitated by a lawnmower drone.
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>>533006772
He's bluffing, trump has no cards, Iran has all the cards. His country is in big trouble.
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>>533021343
Which will be seized after he is removed from power, and they all go to jail.
You know order books can be traced, right? You just have to be willing to put in the effort.
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>>533021356
They also scanned every single sortie off the Lincoln using pic related. So the whole 'stealth' thing is dead now.
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>>533007375
>Iran doesn't control the traffic. The USA does.
Some Ukrainian oligarch is going to buy 500 FPV drones, or 50 robot torpedoes and sink the first US ship that tries to seize his shit on the high seas. What now motherfucker?
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>>533005966
And Blumpf forgot that Iranian drones and missiles are still raining on day 46 i think it is?
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>>533021419
It might well just be a marker manipulation psy-op to push up the oil price. But you have to remember the Israelis are directing the show, and they want endless chaos until the US and Europeans are forced to go to war.
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>>533021577
Before Syria, half of the Middle East belonged to Iran's sphere of influence. And the US eliminated one country after another that Iran controlled, until only Iran remained. And then they attacked Iran. Israel can't compete with Iranian industry. They can deal with the Arab camel drivers, but as long as Iran exists, they won't control the region.
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>>533021574
their own sailors should do it
mutiny is the only way out of this for america
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>>533005847
And nobody talks about how to savely return the sailors on the ships which are already there and are now more or less "stranded". Food and water wont last forever, so wont their abillity to have a energy source (Phones, lights, ovens (kitchen stuff) Maschines in general, Radar, Sonar etc.
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>>533016628
>Democrats will "begrudgingly" continue whatever Pissrael's desires are in the region, but continually deflect responsibility to Drumph

FTFY it was obviously easier to use him to initiate, but AIPAC owns both parties, and their plan is to destroy this country really soon.
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The controlled demolition of America theory is starting to sound more plausible with shit like this. Iran can’t open the straight of Hormuz if America blockades it, so with or without Iranian interference we’re going to have a global energy crisis. It’s sounding like that was the whole point of this. Does anyone know if the triumphal arch trump is planning to build is located on the DC pentagram? Any /x/ anons know if it has occult significance?
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>>533021986
>so wont their abillity to have a energy source (Phones, lights, ovens (kitchen stuff) Maschines in general, Radar, Sonar etc.
US carriers run off of nuclear I believe? So they only refuel once a decade or so.
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>>533018509
>We're best buddies with Norway
lol. We actually hate you depressed faggots.
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>>533022040
youre a retard if you tihnk the strait and fuel crisis hurts the USA hegemony. Its not the demo of USA that is starting to look legit, its the russian collusion, unironically. But, if anything east asia is the biggest loser here
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>>533021479
>Turns out their "bases" were undefendable camps and they have to hide in hotels behind civilians instead dying in tents.
Mutt are very lucky the Iranians are governed by a strong foundation of morality and principles.

If I was in charge and the mutts had killed whole family, I would disintegrate those hotels, dead soldiers along witht heir dead human shields.
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>I have also instructed our Navy to seek and interdict every vessel in International Waters that has paid a toll to Iran. No one who pays an illegal toll will have safe passage on the high seas.

uh those include chinese ships

he really does want to start WW3
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Just think the possibilities here.
>WEF and globohomo agenda might get buried permanently
>with that, all gay and wamen shit gets buried
>communism gets buried
We might get all we've ever wanted as a side issue. White man gets back on his proper place as the crown jewel of the world. Then when rebuild starts, it's just great times again. No DEI shit since it all needs actual talent.
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>>533022337
the uk, usa and france lost several million white men in the world wars changing the political landscape to ensure the med, gibralter and suez were secure. You are a shitskin
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>>533006058
they are attempting to force other contries to join them by removing the strategic objective from the board entirely

the problem is they are basically doing irans job for them while simultaniously collapseing the globe

unironincally trump is going to be removed from office lol there is going to be a civil war

12 a gallon sound good?

how about its not even irans fault anymore....
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>>533006772
Because he's trying to delay the realization that he stupidly led America into a pointless strategic defeat going into the midterms
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>>533022229
No you don't, since when it gets hot, you really need our back up - especially if USA is not there in the NATO anymore. Everyone will be eyeballing your oil. So, be kind.
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>>533019514
Absolute gall on you EUscum
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>>533022395
wrong read, the ww2 post order is an establishment based. We are moving from institutions to oligarchies the world over. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss
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Miggers getting dabbed on itt
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>>533022249
Oil is a commodity dumbass. Any reduction of global supply effects everyone, and if nations start taking actions to prevent the free flow of oil in the market so as to keep their own regional supply secure it will spiral out of control and the entire free trade based global economy will fall apart.
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>>533005847
They haven't stopped a ship yet.
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>>533022628
except none of our biggest military allies are exposed. None of the USA military is exposed. No oil company is exposed. Explain how a functioning economy paying more money for oil damages the hegemony, dont conflate the average person with hegemon, yes we get utterly fucked with 8-10 gallon thats coming, but the hegemon? Strengthened.
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>>533022083
I talked about the oil vessels and other goods-carrying CIVIL ships you fucking retarded nigger.
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>>533022637
trump is managing LLMs that fucking up speculating, i wouldnt take any posts since "final solution" as anything other then managing LLM trading
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>>533022540
That was the WEF agenda:
>gayest faget oligarchy
If there's just oligarchy, it is still a win.
Besides, these can be easily handled, since corporations don't have an army. They are just legal entities, exist de facto and de jure only on paper.
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>>533005847
>naval blockade
>Navy trannies chimp out if their deployment goes 2 months over schedule
LOL, k.
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>>533020075
because the population knows its for Israel. notice how fast you've internally gone from "SMO" to full war. Rats like you were calling everyone "panicans" for accusing the SMO of being a slippery slope.

You (zionists) and Israel are the domestic/internal enemies the public actually wants to fight.
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>>533022861
touche, cant say im well learned on it outside of the own nothing. But i think we can agree that the return to volatility for the west is here to stay, no more capitulation by all nations for stable trade to benefit corps. Trillionaires are front and center now
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>>533008555
Day 10,000 of Iran's special operation to sink a US ship.
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>>533022811
are you actually stupid

where do you get your oil from

closed circit military refineries and companies that operate globally but not on the official market


no you absolute retard you get it from an american centric *often also european*

multi national giga conglomerate that you fight and die for to maintain global market share

when the pie shrinks you dont get a bigger slice

if you own 30% of a fucking pie

then somebody eats half of the pie

you have 30% of half a fucking pie
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>>533023031
im the usa defender on pol right now but i have to interject here, houthis gain in asymmetrical warfare can not be understated. Carriers are closer to battleships then they are modern warfare now
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>>533023001
These things will always settle down. The old systems are outdated. It is a fact. We just need to make sure the new systems serves us. No going back to ancient feudalisms, that is by definition retardation. Needs to be something new and elegant.
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>>533023145
explain how that hurts a use hegemony? At what point is the EU, USA at any risk of anything other than a pain in the ass price at the pump? There are nations that face literal famine over this. Almost the entirety seniors in your nation and mine will benefit from this. I fail to see how this conflict hurts as a hegemon, as a power
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Murban crude is still below $100. The market is calling trump's bluff.
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>>533020074
That only applies to memes, bro.
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>>533022860
Is there a possibility the Usa is taking advice from LLM?

Trump:
>I want the Iranian oil, how do we monopolise it
LMM
>Bomb Iran, steal their oil.
What if....this is what actually happened?
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>>533007375
>ignore and rip up the previous agreement with iran
>iran no longer trusts trump because of this
>WTF WHY IS IRAN NOT NEGOTIATING
kill yourself miga terrorist, genuinely fucking do it
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>>533023328
currently the us spends what 400 billion a year on military oil

thats going to double

it shrinks everything so as a percentage to maintain current standings the prices have to go up

people cant buy gas that sucks

the military has to be funded now where are they going to get the gas

the same place as everybody else
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>>533023381
so my theory checks out, trump is managing LLM ai trading
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>>533023476
i have no fucking doubt lol dont ge me started on that
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>>533023328
so as a percentage your military budget is going to increase

your budget is already beyond giant

where are you getting the money?
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>>533005847
>you closed the hormussy?!?!
>NO, WE closed the hornummy!!
>now no one will get her
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>>533023478
those are valid points and likely reflected in venezuela and the now iran (attempt?) action. Theres no incentive for Russia to have oil so high it prices out customers, China directly benefits from usa securing navigation, politically they cant continue to go tariff free and expect EU not to tariff their imports. We get fucked but personally i see uk, usa, and lesser extent french coming out ahead here, call me crazy
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>>533005847
But where's my BOOM BOOM, TEL AVIV kino? I need my fix, man.
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>>533023205
Total US ships sunk: ZERO since 1979
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>>533023328
just imagine to maintain current operations the military needs an extra 4 trillion a year

you dont have it
not to mention all of society is already shareing a burdon forced upon it

all of society needs an extra x trillion a year just to survive

any preferential treatment without litteral ww3 will ruin all of your oil companies globally forever

if your oil companies go national and work purely to service your own economies *global trade will collapse& but lets pretend it somehow survives

even in that curcumstance your nationalised companies will become globally uncompetitive

in 50 year's they will be sold to a russian oil corp just to stay solvent
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>>533023768
listen i get it but the tactic is the cost of repairs though, no adversary believes then can sink an USA aircraft carrier.
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>>533005847
>the rest of the world begins to supply missiles to iran so that they can get their rice.

Heh... ummm...
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>>533023695
ontop of what

what exactly are you talking about we are burning down the house to rule over the ashes it makes no fucking sense to anybody

im not even a fan of fossil fuels or alot of things infact but to pretend that just demolishing living standards is some kind of strategic win

its like breaking your arm so that the enemy gets two broken legs

werent we already winning..... we were kings in a castle why are we burning everything down again?
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>>533023476
Politicians are synchophants who believe everything they are told. They are practically LLM's themselves. It probably would be worse if an LLM wasn't holding their hand.
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>>533018639
spoopy
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as shit as things have been its going to get so much worse

you can already see it they are going to need a ww3 meatgrinder eddition to stop the mass riots

the question is why

we have a goofy fucking economy and instead of jailing the people or reforming the systems we are just trying to kill of anybody who would notice??/

what the fuck is the endgame here
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>>533024043
its becoming more possible that you executed brexit, city of london bet on usa and EU bet on norway and middle east. And, eu isnt our allies, and youre in it with us. You dont have the laws we do stop a blatant lie from starmer, we arent going to war, then wake up with a coalition and nato activated. I agree, im not sure why they rocked the apple cart. Only can deduce it to either the historic case of we got fucked by leaders who believe they inherited some divine right. I just dont know
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>>533020014
>WILL NEVER BE EXTORTED
except for those epstein files but we don't talk about them
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>>533023477
SHUDDUP. THE JCPOA WAS A SUBTERFUGE TO ADVERTISE IRAN AS "CONTROLLED" UNTIL IRAN DEVELOPED AN ICBM CAPABLE OF STRIKING THE US. AS SOON AS THEY HAD AN ICBM CAPABLE OF STRIKING THE US THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLETED BY CONSTRUCTING A NUCLEAR WEAPON TO ARM THOSE ICBMS.
YOU KNOW THAT AND THE DEMOCRAPS WERE IN ON IT. SO FUCK YOU TRAITOR.
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>>533024502
our two nations lost hundreds of thousands of men ending a toll there btw
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>>533023477
Iran won the negotiations there's no other explanation

if we take everything we know and have been told about the world we have to conclude that

A iran won the negotiation and simultaniously B the USA has lost its mind

the average american just lost like 10k a year and nobody even knows why
and thats a conservative estimate
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>>533024254
>what the fuck is the endgame here
To me, it seems we're approaching a culmination point where different, centuries old shits, will collide. We have communists, the same bolshevik revolutionaries who never went away, then we have a bunch of religious structures and then the ideas of Liberty - that has enabled and funded all the other parasitic structures since days of Thomas Jefferson. All these have been on collision course for a long time and now the inevitable is coming up.
How it all goes, depends on who wins the heats and minds of the masses. To me, it seems Liberty camp is winning, although it doesn't show in media, but is definitely running strong in the under current and to me that is only that counts.
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>>533005847
Toilets status?
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>>533018599
I admire your optimism when you get in the tube with the increasingly brown mob, but trust me, the incoming global cataclism if Donnie keeps messing with things will not only affect you, but to all your tube mates, heavily. Be aware, because no-one can stop it now.
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>>533005847
When does bombing resume?
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>>533025006
i hate to tell you anon but we have speech laws worse than in the 1400's

we have survalance that even the most insane amoung us would consider extreeme

like the level of survelance we do nobody on earth and i mean nobody thinks its not the most extreem and invasive shit on earth

they just think they have to do it

we have fake economies

i could go on
every individual is screaming we need more liberty buy every system and collective is imposing more opression

but what the fuck do i know im poor as shit anyway i should want it to all burn LOL
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>>533006812
in this case: building Greater Israel
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>>533008555
checked and keked
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>>533018694
They're going to impeach him over and over and over again. Every single day on the house floor will be dedicated to examining some new thing Trump has done -- whether it's a public hearing with an Epstein victim or sworn testimony from generals purged by Trump, he will be able to address absolutely nothing else. You're not imagining what's going to happen in sufficient detail if you blithely think "a two-year lame-duck is still powerful."

Yes, Trump can veto a bill which, for example, holds him to account for exceeding his constitutional powers... but can you imagine the headlines?
>TRUMP VETOES END TO IRAN WAR
>TRUMP VETOES UNCONDITIONAL RELEASE OF EPSTEIN FILES
>TRUMP VETOES RELEASE OF RAW ECONOMIC DATA
>etc
He's fucked when the Ds take back Congress.
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>>533025513
picrel from here:
>>533020177

Commie camp's angle of attack is top-down via institutions that have been married with corporations (fascism). Liberty camp's angle of attack comes bottom-top order, from actual grass roots. Religious camps are, as far as I see, in disarray and clueless, nevertheless strong and unpredictable.. they don't usually run on all thrusters (as dr. Mcoy would put it).
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>>533020518
>Mexican factories would become war factories for the US
Obviously they would. In a WWIII scenario, Mexico would be occupied.
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>>533025828
theyre not going to win the senate...
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>>533022946
What imaginary enemy are you talking to nigger? Trump's attack on Iran was a huge strategic blunder and will only hurt us. The only good thing about it is the possibility that Israel is turned to dust. It's not a full blown war (yet) as far as the US in concerned. It could, and it looks like it's going to, ramp up into full scale war, but we're not there yet.
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>>533019444
Did you account for women in the millitary?

What about niggers?



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