>"OH UHHHHHH YOU'RE BLOCKADING US............UHHHHHH WELL WE'LL BLOCKADE OURSELVES CHECKMATE IRAN!!!!!!"DAY 45 OF THE 4 DAY SPECIAL COMBAT OPERATION TO TOPPLE IRAN!!!!!!!!! OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>533022029well i guess america is over.
>>533022029
>>533022029I get the strategy. He wants to reduce their imports to limit the Iranians' money flow in the hopes that they're already on the ropes.But on its face, it looks retarded. Lol>OPEN THAT STRAIT OR WE'LL CLOSE THE STRAIT
>>533022436he's crashing the global energy market you retard, that was the problem with the straight being closed. holy fuck this propaganda is retarded.
>>533022436It wasn't just Iranian tankers going through. Chinese, Indian, Pakistani, Malaysian and even some french ones were going through.
Houthis enter the chat when?
>>533022725It will piss off China Good strategy by Trump tbf, he will make China force Iran to submit
>>533022029you lost m8, now go huff petrol in defeat
>>533022882Why would they? They are strategically winning. Every other day we're seeing a new leader of a country run off to beijing to secure new trade deals.
>>533022882Only ever so slightly. They get 10 percent of their oil from Iran
>>533022029It's actually the most based thing Trump has done all war. We can't allow Iran have the legitimacy of being able to toll the straight. It isn't fair other world leaders can just make a deal and pay off the terrorist country and sail freely. Now they can't.
>>533022029Imagine trying to negotiate with Muslims lol
>>533023464America shouldn’t be involved in any of the middle east’s affairs
>>533022029Beyond based.Mighty Trump will emerge triumphant.
>>533023446They buy two thirds of Irans oil output though. This is more about economically strangling Iran than it is China.
>>533023050trump is the 80s business guy from futurama, destroying the country for a financial scheme and to benefit israel
>>533023464Didn't this orange pedophile spent days saying the strait was open?
>>533023464But the Iranians want it closed. They tricked Trump into closing it. It causes net harm to everyone but them. Other countries wont get involved with Trump diarrhea.
>>533023744Yes, problem? He also stated clearly and in ALL CAPS that it wasn't our problem anyway because we don't even use the damn thing. So here we are.
Don't sail in an active war zone.
>>533022029>surely china won't send their navy>surely houthis won't block red seaMan this is the dumbest president in us history. Imagine listening to who knows what newspaper and doing this shit.
>>533022029>just effectively embargo the world>what would go wrong :)
>>533024411Chinks won't do shit other than send iran some missiles and manpads. If Houtis block the red sea it will be fucking hilarious and I hope they do.
>>533022029I don't know who's jewing who anymore
>>533022029https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/06_iran_strategy.pdf
>>533022029Monkey see...
>>533022029Lmao the UK is heading an international coalition to open the strait of hormuz...currently blocked by the US.
>>533022029I hope you all starve to death without any oil. Keep the strait CLOSED, Trump! USA! USA! USA!
>>533022029This is kindergarten tier stuff
What i dont get is that if shipping is such a god damn problem because of Hormuz, why not just stage another Berlin Airlift and circumvent the strait altogether?
>>533022029THE SHART OF THE DEAL
>>533022029>no one who pays an illegal tollIs this the same Trump that 2 weeks ago talked about sharing the proceeds from tolls with Iran? This terrorist state we have to be worried about, or not, one week to the next?
Solid retarded move that burns all the bridges that are left to burn, but at least it will be successful until US navy ships start to get sunk.
>>533024486Nations that are desperate right now will send their navies to escort their oil and gas tanker or cargo ships picking up fertilizer because if they don't their countries will collapse. Many will consider getting into naval engagements with the US worth it if they can avoid the alternative of starvation and societal collapse. Its not choice really.
>>533024854How are your oil reserves doing?
>>533022029this is mildly amusingtrump is willing to destroy maritime commerce relations on behalf of british territorial and roman municipal shareholders to distract from epstein and american interregnum reawakening and reconstructionstage set for cataclysm by most ridiculous demons
>>533022436I think actually he wants to imitate the Iranian move and say "you want the US to remove the blockade, get the Iranians to come to the table." which is what the Iranians did to the US."You want the blockade to end, make us an offer and make it a good one."This is just one strategy Trump is employing, they are still moving men and materiel into the region so full invasion is likely the "end game" if this particular gambit doesnt work, which it wont because Trump is outclassed.
>>533022029makes sense you brown retard, if the strait is to be closed then it will be closed for everyone.
>>533024411The Houthis won't be able to block the Red Sea if Trump blocks it first.
>>533025073You're just wrong, and you're going to have to watch and see yourself be wrong. It is literally not going to happen. Nobody is going to fight the USN except Iran. Europe can't do shit. China won't do shit. This is reality, and the USN rules the waves. Seeth and cope.I'm sure your powerful Iceland navy will intervene. Leave war to the big boys kid.
The most retarded thing to happen in world politics in the past 500 years.
>>533022029>Irans anti-air is gone after they shot down 6 of your jets trying to steal enriched uranium and the (((F15 pilot))) circus that followed
>>533022882>It will piss off China>Good strategy by Trump tbf, he will make China force Iran to submitno...it wontChina gets roughly 10-15% of their oil spread all over the world so any one node "going down" wont effect them in any strategic way
>>533024766Dude, Berlin was one city with 2 million people living there. That operation was already logistical nightmare. You can't scale that shit up by an factor of 100.
>>533025220This is like when retards try to play chess by mirroring the last move.
>>533023050>They are strategically winning.Lmao their country is in complete shambles. Military taken out, energy taken out, economy taken out. There is nothing Iran can do other then bunker down and play the long and slow game of trying to rebuild which will take decades. And then the US will just bomb them again.
>>533022029how wasted was Hegseth when he pitched this plan?
>>533022029Trump has spihilis in his brain.
>>533025220What he wants is to look powerful. If you don't understand that basically everything Trump does is aimed inward, you're never gonna get it. Every single action he takes is either for the purpose of one of the following goals:>driving domestic opinion>making himself some moneyThat's it.
>>533024613>Lmao the UK is heading an international coalition to open the strait of hormuzWhy are they doing this?
>>533025351You just don't get it. If Trump was president during 9/11 the Saudis would've never gotten close to the WTC. ...he would've took it down, first.#9DCHESS
>>533022029Is this 5D chess?
>>533022029You realize trump was letting Chinese and Iranian tankers and cargo go freely before right? I mean it should have been blockaded from day one and trump was retarded for not…but now he is I guess.
>>533025073kek no
>>533022436it's not about that. it's about destroying the notion that Iran controls the strait.anybody who's willing and able to destroy the tankers passing the strait has the ability to block it.I mentioned that possibility weeks ago on here.until now it seemed like time was on Iran's side.the US blocking the strait is calling their bluff or rather biting the bullet.it depends on how this move will shake out in the markets.I think trump will probably taco if it gets too bad.the US doesn't have the same pain tolerance as Iranians.
>>533026015Wrong. He is making America money. >>533026055You gotta have leverage. Don't use all cards at once. Keep some for negotiations
>>533026125You're right that time might now be on Trump's side, but only because we have now essentially guaranteed massive price shocks and likely a midterm loss for Republicans. That sets the clock at around 10 months, when Democrats rein him in. I'm still not certain what he can do in those 10 months without deploying ground troops, but he's got them.
>>533022029>BTFO Iranian navy>who will blockade the strait now?>guess I'll do it myselfBased madman
>>533022029>”yo dawg! we heard you like to close your strait, so we closed your closed strait!”
>>533022029Will be interesting to see the Chinese supplied drone swarms at work,
>>533026256>He is making America money.Is he? He cut taxes and inflated the budget. The debt is now 2t more than it was before he took office. His tariffs have increased prices for consumers at the same time as he has cut benefits and services. The rich are doing great, too be fair. Trump evidently doesn't care at all to investigate e.g. insider trading... likely because he's doing it himself. But making AMERICA money? I don't see how that's the case. Life has gotten worse for everyone who isn't rich or excited about our collapse.
>>533026125>the US blocking the strait is calling their bluff or rather biting the bullet>the US doesn't have the same pain tolerance as Iraniansit's just plain retarded. iran doing this defensively was understandable. the US doing this offensively makes literally everyone abandon them where possible.he's singlehandedly destroying/driving away all his allies and giving more power to China/Russia and Iran.I really do think it's not just Israel but other countries intelligence agencies that had access to the (unredacted) Epstein files.
imagine how retarded do you have to be to vote for that niggerlmao
>>533026256>Wrong. He is making America money.Israel
>>533026125>the US doesn't have the same pain tolerance as Iranians.Especially when this is a war of aggression for nobodies benefit but israel
everyone is madthis is great!
We always knew there had to be a 5D chess aspect because on the surface this all looked insane.Trump is going to make the US rise, by making everyone else fall. He secured Venezuela pulling its leader out in the middle of the night. It has the largest proven oil reserves in the world with 300B barrels. The CIA is currently installing their new government. He is pulling out of NATO so he can attack Denmark (Greenland) and help Israel take Turkey. Both of which should invoke an Article 5 attack on NATO. Trump has said he will own Cuba by the fall. He is creating fortress America with control and ownership of the North passage between Canada and Greenland. He will squeeze Canada or threaten until they become the 51st state. He will then take Mexico through Panama, the canal and down to Venezuela. We are distracted by Iran, but I would say the gloves are coming off.
>>533026346it really depends on the market's reaction.I think it'll probably be very bad, because right now it is held up by hopium.oil futures are still assuming the conflict will be resolved soon.>>533026563yeah, true. that's why I don't think he will be able to do that for very long.
>>533026256Making kikes money*
>>533023566
>>533026922yep
>>533022029Every country in the world should declare war on the United State and Israel.
>>533022029all my training has lead me to this...
>>533022029c> Trump 123912th """""""happening"""""""" to pump some oil stock on Monday> Will be cancelled by Tuesday. As always.> Will be forgotten by Friday. Because by then it will be time to pump another stock> You still fell for itAt this point you believe Trump you deserve to be poor. Nothing will happen. By Tuesday this whole thing will be forgotten. Just like the negociations are already forgotten, and the Kharg island invasion before that.>>533026039>>533026055>>533026256>>533026354>>533026967You dumb fuckers are literally just helping him pump and dump some stock by posting your ""happening"" ramblings.
>>533022029Can't wait til they dronefuck our navy. What an idiot
>>533022029Trumps not even spiritually American, or the PresidentAfter a long day of talking to schizophrenic rabbi's on jewish prophecy and performing fellatio he just looks at MAGA voters like this.
>>533022029The cope for Iran not realising that the one most dependant on that strait is Iran itself is hilarious."Hahaha theworld is now cut off from us!"Tja.
>>533025937>their countryThe regime doesn't give a fuck about their country, they were murdering their own people by the thousands before the war. They just care about the regime itself surviving and for now as long as they accept the occasional loss of a general or two they're completely fine with waiting it out.
>>533025937Are you retarded or something? Read my comment slowly. I know you are a mutt, either turn off vpn or go back to muttland and gtfo out of europe.
>>533027576>Muh gorillion dead protestorsFuck off kike
>>533025073> refuse a naval war against goatfuckers> now want a naval war against the fucking USNo one will do shit
I literally want to hear a convincing, rational, non religious, secular totally sane and calmly argued reason for why Iran >(under no circumstance ever, even if it means the global apocalypse anyway) may "never possess a nuclear weapon" and how the world must universally recognize Iran as some kind of insane, irratational international actor, incapble of reason, logic or basic humanity.and how this talking point became the de-facto mission statement of planet earth...even if it means the complete death of modern civilization world wide.how did "keeping nuclear weapons out of Irans hands" become human civilizations non-negotiable hard "red line"
>>533027060>oil futures are still assuming the conflict will be resolved soon.Oil is also a heavily manipulated market. Last I checked, Trump has dumped something like 20% of our strategic reserves onto the market at spot. That is obviously its own can of worms, but still -- burning reserves at that rate is seriously worrying.
>>533022029this has been the only logical move made during this whole ordeal.Why let them extort tolls for free, why let people pay iran to use a passageway they don't own?Blocking it off until everyone can use it only makes sense, why he didn't start this way is beyond me.
>>533026055Trump isn't "letting" anyone do anything. He's making up lies more and more ridiculous each day to make his moron supporters think he has some kind of handle on the situation. He doesn't
>>533027787Because the jews said so. I cant wait to end their bloodlines
LOL. It is funny how weak Trump is. Jesus Christ what a sore looser. He is truly like the child no one said no to when growing up. Tantrum overload.
>>533022164Thanks, Don.
>>5330224361) tankers will simply fly chinese flags so the US cant do shit about em2) gulf states will never again support trump in anything, they now have 2 retards blocking the strait
>>533027872it was open before Trump started this war lmaodumbfuck MAGAtards
>>533022725Well now these countries have reason to go against the US.Trump literally took off the heat from Iran. What a gigantic retard.
>>533028562>1) tankers will simply fly chinese flags so the US cant do shit about em>2) gulf states will never again support trump in anything, they now have 2 retards blocking the straitThis. All China has to do, or any country for that matter, is to say "An attack on our ships will be viewed as an act of war."
>>53302448645% of their oil and 30% of their LNG comes from that strait. If you think chinks won't do shit then you're suffering from grand delusion. It's not the 90s china anymore.
>>533028957They won't do shit. Wait and see retard.
>>533028838They'll do what, get the straight of malacca and the other bajillion pacific naval chokepoints we control locked down?That's the primary reason China hasn't invaded Taiwan yet. They have no force projection, very few forward bases, they know US can choke and starve their entire economy if they pissed us off too much.
>>533022029He should just deploy a wall of text to the strait
I don’t get why this is so complicated. Given the current situation, Iran and their allies benefit while everyone else suffers. So we are just ensuring that everyone suffers. The idea is that Iran will have no incentive to reopen the strait under current circumstances. The war was a retarded folly from the start. The current situation is untenable. Both can be true and only retards struggle to grasp that
>>533022029I can see how this might work on paper, but I'm waiting to see how it will blow up in Trumps face spectacularly cause that's been the reoccurring theme in this war.
>>533029133>They have no force projection, very few forward bases, they know US can choke and starve their entire economy if they pissed us off too much.Not entirely true. The US is spread out so thin now that they can't do shit against China. The US is only capable of waging one war at a time. And good luck getting NATO to join in helping an aggressor that starts wars. It is the opposite of what NATO stands for.
>>533029326What’s the worst that can happen? Europe gets pissed and refuses to help us deal with the strait? Oh wait.
>>533022436The dumb fuck can kill half their economy if they severed Russia's ports and other transit hubs but for some arcane gay reason Trump is still trying to support and prop Putin up. Despite them giving enormous intelligence, material, weapon and other support to Iran, directly fucking over his war in Iran... popping our Awacs... Thad radars.... but nope Trump is still fucking Ukraine over and trying to suck Putin's cock like he's trying for gold in the the retard olympics. Until he acts on Russia, Iran still has a firm lifeline even if China get kicked out.
>>533025220>if you don’t do what I want we will do what you want pools closed take that Idk why anyone would think this would work
>>533029273It's because he wants to pressure europe into joining his shit war. Iran won’t flinch even if it initiates a blockade but it would make current US allies suffer.
>the jewnited states of israel seethes when another nation makes its own decisions regarding its waters
YOu fucking mutts on this board are fucking useless, you have so much rights and freedoms, you do fuck all to stop this jewish cock sucker from making things worst.fucking useless niggers, all ya mutts are.
>>533026125Unlike Iran, which is already a rogue state, the US can’t sink any ships though. Imagine a US navy ship firing at a Chinese oil tanker, that won’t happen. Trumps blockade is more of a bluff than anything. The first tanker that ignores US warnings and simply goes trough, the illusion of control is gone and the US looks even more like a paper tiger.
>>533022029I wonder how he would react if Iran insisted that the USA ended their nuclear ambitions, and got rid of all nuclear weapons and reactors to "show good faith"?They why the fuck are younsurprised when they won't agree to do it?USA needs to step off their high chair of thinking they still run the planet. Its not 1999 anymore, and that kind of hubris will lead to the chair being knocked out from under you.
>>533022436It is still a retarded move because 1. That will trigger an international crisis and can easily start WW3, what if we shoot one of China’s ships or our allies? What if China goes “nah I wanna pass”2. Iran has lived for decades under strict sanctions. The Iranians are used to a shitty economy + are motivated to resist because of an external threat that is bombing civilians. Americans are sensitive to inflation and economic pain, most have no clue why we’re even at war, and the world in general is angry at America for starting this war. Everyone, the Gulf states, Europe, Japan, South Korea etc will put pressure on America to cave as the global economy goes to shit
>>533029495It would make China suffer. The strait is closed to all but Iran and its allies and the few tankers paying the toll. Europe is already struggling and the brief cease fire wasn’t working out the way any one hoped.
>>533022436>the hopes that they're already on the ropesI was told that we had already won
>>533029398Well for one, China wasn't actively involved before but now they would have a reason to be. All of Asia buys oil that China refines that they get from the ME so every asian country probably wants to kill Americans now. Spain gets dunked on after being cowards and negotiating with terrorists paying tolls only to be denied by the second blockade so that's funny.
>>533027046>He is pulling out of NATO so he can attack Denmark (Greenland) and help Israel take Turkey.please be true
>>533022882What if China blockades the American blockade of the Iranian blockade?
>>533022436YOU ARE RETARDEDYour existing 'blockades' of all Russian oil vessels and of Cuba are already being bucked.
>>533029620>That will trigger an international crisis and can easily start WW3, what if we shoot one of China’s ships or our allies? What if China goes “nah I wanna pass”Get Sunni Islamic terror groups weaponry and boats to fuck with any ship transiting the strait. Or dump anti ship mines into the strait. >oops the jihadists took over your ship and oil. That’s what happens we you don’t have the navy securing the seas!>oops Iran must have lost track of those anti ship mines!Trumps already laying the ground work for the latter
>>533028838the gulf states are american/israeli vassals, in all but name.
>>533022882>he will make China force Iran to submitHe will make China add a military escort to the vessels. What are you going to do, open fire on a Chinese military vessel?
>>533023464> It isn't fair other world leaders can just make a deal and pay off the terrorist countrywell, now they have to make a deal with the other terrorist country.just kidding, this will accelerate the end of the petrodollar
>>533023679>This is more about economically strangling Iran than it is China.Iran has made a boatload of money over the past 6 weeks.Your 'blockade' will cost you more than it will cost them.
>>533029574>that won’t happenTrump already made known that he doesn't give a shit about longtime allies who don't submit to his wishes. He would sink Spanish and French ship
>>533029907Lmao good luck with that. It’s hilarious how retarded people are about chinas capabilities. Almost as dumb as the boomer miggers who unquestioningly support Trump.
>>533025323>You're just wrongYou're just retarded. See >>533029841
>>533029949>>533029927>>533030009Shills wouldn't be so mad if it wasn't going to work lmfao
>>533029982>Lol we'll just start WW3You won't, because you just blew through all of your stockpiles of stand-off weapons, retard.
>>533029652Trump is unlikable globally especially in his 2nd term so nobody is gonna join his half ass crusade. Btw didn't he saw we already won 3 weeks ago?
>>533030068You misunderstood. China doesn’t have the means to escort ships through the strait. They don’t have the force projection. It’s not about war, which China also doesn’t want. They can’t even take an island right off their mainland. They aren’t fighting a global war. Stop being a fucking retarded faggot. Trump fucked up with this retarded Israeli op but that shouldn’t make you become a third world tier retard
>>533030050>We're going to spend upwards of $100M a day for the next 9 months to close a strait that was already closedHave fun bro. When the NATO army comes to escort its own ships (pointing their guns at you), you won't do shit.
So uhh what are the chances they block the strait on the other side with Yemen just for shits and giggles?
>>533030254Good luck with that.
Yurocucks are raging because they'll do nothing and they know it
>>533030234>doesn’t have the meansThey are literally outproducing you in terms of military vessels. They currently have over 1000 active vessels.>The People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) operates the largest naval fleet in the world by the number of commissioned vessels.
>>533022436attacking Iran in the first place was a doozy
>>533022029>who is blockading who
I'm malding so much right now
>>533022029This is the dumbest shit ever. Why not just blockade Iranian ships and ships that stopped at Iranian ports rather than pissing literally most of the rest of the world off?
>>533030234Blah blah blah when is the mighty USN gonna open up the strait? China is one phone call away from cancelling the Trump visit in May btw he already postponed it to May when it was first scheduled to be held in March because the Iran war turned out be more than the retarded boomer can handle. LOLOL!
>>533030332>Muh spendingYeah. We've seen what your spending gets you. AD that doesn't fucking work kek.
the orange pedophile sucks at making deals and sucks waging war!
>>533026256>Wrong. He is making America money.oil companies are not american. They're ((( ))).
>>533030347What type of vessels. And where are they? They aren’t anywhere close to the strait nor will they. Again, no force projection. You are a retarded nigga. As I said, now would be the perfect time to take Taiwan but they aren’t even capable of doing that.
>>533022029now how exactly is the us going to do this? the navy has refused to get within 1000km of iranian coasts the entire war because they know they'll get sunk by swarms of drones and missile barragesdo they intend to sink shipping in international waters that happened to transit the strait days previously?
>>533030422I am not a trump supporter. I’m also not a retard chinkaboo. The insane thirdie cope overestimation of China needs a serious reality check
>>533025293holy 8d chessthank you mr president, we wonnered BIGLY
>>533030429>Air defence isn't perfectIt's over for the US military. A single netherlands destroyer could easily sink the USN.
>>533023464>let's fuck Americans with high gas prices and inflation to save our precious petro dollar Good plan dude. The most important part is libs will be owned and trannies will lose even biglier.
>>533023464Yep. France, Spain and other nigger nations who agreed to pay the toll essentially agreed to pay to rebuild their nuke program which is a big no-no. Now they all get btfo.
>>533030484>What type of vessels. And where are they?The PLAN fleet also includes over 70 nuclear and conventionally powered submarines (including reserve)The major surface combatants fleet is heavily modernized and centered around more than 60 multirole destroyers, notably the advanced Type 055 and Type 052D classes, as well as more than 50 modern frigates and 50 corvettes.>They aren’t anywhere close to the straitNor are you, retard. You have 1 carrier group, and that's hanging out off the coast of Somalia.Their frigates & destroyers are a lot closer than yours are.>now would be the perfect time to take TaiwanAnd now you show that you know absolutely nothing about China. Thanks for playing.Fyi: pic related has been hanging out next to the USS Lincoln since day 1 of the conflict, capturing data on every single plane leaving and returning to the ship. YOU WON'T DO SHIT.
>>533030550Nigger the US can't beat Iran. It's been 6 weeks. We attacked Iran at the height of their power when we never BOTHERED to even start upgrading our military to the drone age of warfare. THAAD radars are GONE. It's over dude, the US is just gonna run out of missiles before Trump gets impeached. We can't build SHIT without China, because they have RE's and we don't.
Total migger death
>>533022029This is the best play, honestly, and should have been done from the start. Iran only pays the IRGC via oil exports. We're going to find out how loyal they are really quick. Let's see how they like not getting paid.
>do somerhing >loses
>>533024509That’s because you’re demoralized, probably low IQ.
>>533030639>isn't perfectYou haven't been able to stop even a single one of the Fattah-2 missiles. Not even 1. It's because your AD was built for wars fought in the 90s.
>>533029459Nobody cares about Jewkraine you retarded kike. You got Russia derangement syndrome
>>533030755>No sauceCool bro.
We are getting front row seats to The Art of the Deal. Everyone grab a notepad and watch the master. This has been the plan ALL ALONG! These suckers are going to learn today. Or is about two weeks. Anyone who doesn’t agree this is an amazing move is a sucker and a loser.
XI I DONE GOOFED INTERVENE NOOOOW
>>533022164Not yet
>>533022029>>533022436This is an idea so bad that an Israeli jew definitely came up with it. Blockading the Strait attacks Iran's cash flow, but it also STARVES THE PLANET, turning all political ire on us specifically. The jews are waging a two front war: Destroy Iran and destroy America. How the fuck do these christKIKE golems in government not realize they're being played?
the worst part about the iranian war is libs pretending they've suddenly become experts on global economics
>>533030803>I want to see my AD get mogged so moreOk. Here's one that passed over multiple gulf countries and blew up kikes in Dimona.
>>533024854You don’t get to pay Iran without American supervision. If Iran wants to charge a toll, it must first clear US customs.
>>533022566Stop. Please just stop. Trump isn't this strategic genius and neither are his cabinet members. He's a kike puppet. Simple as. He does more damage to the usa by attacking Iran because it only proves how inefficient the world's superpower is. How incompetent the leaders are. How the only thing Trump can do is react with impotent rage over and over.
>>533030681>America starts a war for no reason>Strait closes>America can't open it>Figure out a deal on your own that gets ships through>America tells you you can't do that either and also they're going to impound your ships>Everyone's life is on the line because the world runs on oil and fertilizer>America still doesn't have a plan for getting commerce going, they're just insisting you can't have your own solution that doesn't include themAnarcho-tyranny on a global level. Truly amazing what Orange Nigger has managed.
>>533030715>gonna run out of missilesIn 2 more weeks, right? We still have nearly 20,000 VLS/VLCs. The only downside is that it takes weeks to reload them onto ships but we've got a fuck ton in the inventory.
>>533022882Chinks are taking this brief interlude to load Iran back up with weapons. Does Trump have the balls to seize a Chinese oil tanker anyway?
>>533025273This. France doesn’t get to pay for their nuclear weapons and then pretend they had nothing to do with it.
>>533030550>overestimation of China1 single chinese shipyard has put more tonnage in the water in a single year than every american shipyard combined SINCE WW21 shipyard, in 1 year, is more productive than a whole country over 80 yearsus vs china is literally pacific war 2 electric boogaloo but the us is now in the position japan was in for the originalonly retarded miggers think china is being overestimated>>533030745gweilo cant into wuwei
>>533029133Lol, try and find something not made in China in your house. If China is blockaded in any meaningful way, that would mean mother of all economic collapses for entire planet.
>>533029805The Hormussy gangbang
US is really going out of its way to try to become more of a pariah state than Iran, Israel, or Russia
>>533029981>can't defeat Iran >Trump is going to war with the whole world Yeah right.
>>533030920Based dead kikes.Two anecdotal videos are not a sauce. Europe isn't going to send anyone to the straight to challenge the US blockade. You are vassal states. You won't do shit.China MAY consider doing shit, but I still very much doubt that they will.The straight will remain closed until all ships can enter and leave freely. It's up to Iran when that happens.
kek what an orange retard
>>533031020>We still have nearly 20,000 VLSA VLS is a tube for holding and launching missiles, not a missile, retard. The missile that goes in there is the Tomahawk, of which you've launched over 25% of your global stockpiles in under a month. During that same month, Iran made more money than it would have in 5 months normally.
>>533027046>help Israel take Turkey.Wtf is Israel going to do with Turkey? They've been struggling with fucking Gaza, a 2 million city of mostly starved teenagers, and militias in Lebanon, a country smaller than Montenegro.These ideas about Israel taking over Turkey or Iran or Egypt are beyond insane. It's not 600 bc anymore, brehs.
>>533022029>OPEN THE STRAIT OR I'LL DO IT
>>533024766Are you fucking retarded?
>>533026256>He is making America moneyHe's making money for himself and a small handful of epsteins other friends.
>>533022029fucking christ he's fallen.can anyone top his downfall...
>>533022029banan blockade
>>533031081>try and find something not made in Chinaeven that is too optimistictry and find something that doesn't use raw materials refined or produced in china even if the final manufacturing occurs somewhere elseit turns out shipping all your factories over to china in the 70s and 80s to make a quick buck wasn't a good idea>the last capitalist will sell us the rope with which we hang him
What if the tankers just decide to run the blockade?The fuck is Timmy gonna do?>Shooting a national flagged tanker worth billions = Act of war>Shooting any oil tanker and cause a catastrophic enviromental disaster
Friendly reminder that the retard in chief thinks his 5 boats can blockade this.
Fuck Israel nigga
>>533031198>A VLS is a tube for holding and launching missiles, not a missile, retard.Don't be daft - that's nearly 20,000 VLSs with a missile to go along. Most are SM-2s.
Irans condition is that Trump is killed, I guess thats what happens when you kill someones leader, and his replacement, and his replacement and so on, they wont accept anything lessnice work Trump, and all for israel
>>533031329the us blockade of cuba was "relaxed" when a russian tanker carrying oil came alongie the us couldn't even fucking blockade a small island 90 miles off its own coastthey us will try and either fail or get its ships blown up when they try to stop a merchant ship
>>533027872Yep, it’s a Giga Chud move. Yuro filth doesn’t get to pay for their nuclear program restoration.
In the event that the strait of Hormuz and the Bab-el-Mandeb strait are mined, blockaded, tolled, or the flow of oil and fertilizer slows or halts; the only places on the planet that can make up that difference in exported hydrocarbons and nitrogen are North America, Venezuala and Russia and the most vulnerable locations will be Europe, South East Asia, and Japan.Closing the straits benefits Russia and the United States and hurts Europe, South East Asia, and Japan by making them more reliant on the US and Russia for their hydrocarbon and nitrogen needs. Europe, and Japan are the ones who own the most amount of US Debt (Treasuries).The US has manufactured a scenario where its debt holders and financiers must choose between becoming a vassal state of the Russian Empire or continue the war they are already financing and waging against Russia in Ukraine and by extension deepen their reliance on American energy and protection.This is why trump conquered Venezuela before he engineered the blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, still to this day Venezuela's former political leader sits inside of a US prison cell while Venezuela is being ran by US installed puppets.Trumps play in Greenland is also part of this restructuring of global energy dependence. Canada announced earlier this year the Grays Port and Road project a 100 billion dollar deep water port in the Arctic Ocean, Russia has been investing in the Arctic Ocean for decades now, this is all in preparation for the opening of the Northwest Passage and a significantly shorter route from Northern Europe to Canada/United States and from the US to places like China and Japan... again we see the same few countries repeated over and over in this strategy, Northern Europe, South East Asia, and Japan.Trump leaving NATO is so that the US can bomb Turkish soldiers in Syria and Turkey proper with impunity as part of the Greater Israel projec
>>533026125>it depends on how this move will shake out in the markets.It's making everything worse for pretty much everyone in the world. Iran has an oppressive totalitarian regime who won't hesitate to murder thousands to keep control, and it's facing an existential crisis. Cletus from Ohio will lose his patience with Trump far faster than Iran. (Not to mention literally every other country in the world, including the big players like China.)Trump is really trying to speedrun the downfall of America at this point. He's already squandered goodwill worth decades, but he's still trying to scrape whatever's left at the bottom.
>>533031479>SM-2SM-2 is air-defense against anti-ship missiles and planes.WTF are you talking about? A USV would destroy the boat if it got too close.
Okay literally how in the fuck does that work? Sometimes he actually goes through with shit he's yelling about so I'm actually curious.
>>533029715>muh chyna Shut the fuck up.
>>533031637it doesn't work. at all. any Navy ship getting close to the Iranian shoreline will come under fire.
>>533031637>how in the fuck does that work?That's the fun part. It doesn't. It's just more retarded cope screeching.>Open the fucking strait you crazy bastards!
Chinese FIX this NOW thank you for your attention to this matter
>>533031494Bottom line is that you cant just shoot a chinese flag-flying vessel etc and think it's just fair game. There's going to be consequences if you do. Those tankers are worth billions and it's a major investment for another country. You will be liable.Plus the enviromental fallout from thousands of tons of oil into the ocean will be massive and everyone will hate you for it.
so the US Navy is going to attack civilian vessels? I doubt it.
>>533031626They can be used, and have been used, to destroy boats/ships in this war already. That is their secondary use. That is what the IIIB was designed for.
>>533022029I called it.I told you people this would happen.Bunch of retards acting all smug as if Iran had hacked the system.
>>533031385they could interrupt the traffic that cuts across the middle of the indian oceanbut anything near a coastline china can just offer that country some free hypersonic missiles to sink any migger ship that tries to start shit
>>533022029How many times do we have to tell you, our ships dont use the strait.
>>533031760>OPEN THE FUCKING STRAIT
>>533022029Very effeminate thread.
>>533031385Just wait for the first ship to try and go through the blockade. What is trump going to bomb ships? You won’t do shit cheetoh, this is a paper tiger blockade.
>>533031846If it doesn't matter why do you care?
>>533031786The US Navy is the largest perpetrators of piracy in history. The US Army & Air Force might be history's #1 terror organizations but don't count out the Navy!
>>533022882This seems to be the most likely strategy.China is who really controls Iran and almost all oil flows out of the gulf go to China. Blockading the gulf is our way of showing both china and iran that we have just as much control over that trade route as they do.The end goal of course being to force a deal.
I cant believe mutts actually demanded that we'd join this hot mess.What the fuck is going on here. What are the operational objectives? What's the gameplan? What is the exit-plan?
>>533030371America is blocking yurope from financing Iran nukes. It’s very simple.France won’t pay shit to Iran or they’ll get fucked.
Well, I do have to hand it to him. He wants an actual WWIII and he is trying is hardest to make it happen. He may finally have found the way to do it.
This is what an old person does before he gets sent to a nursing home, The Country
>>533032102there was no plan. they genuinely thought they were hot shit after bagging Maduro so easily, completely ignorant to the resolve of Iran and its willingness to tank the global economy as leverage
>>533027787They're the enemy of Israel and they have the US by the balls through AIPAC. That's it. That's the only reason. Other countries also dislike Iran because they're a bunch of crazy islamists, but most agree that they're at least semi-rational when it comes to foreign affairs. That's why the Obama deal was considered good, because they actually stuck to it.If Iran actually got a nuke, it would be kind of scary because nobody wants unstable regimes to get nukes. But if North Korea can have nukes and abstain from firing them, then Iran could probably do the same.Of course, Israel doesn't see it that way. But considering the Samson Option, it's hard to not consider them hypocrites.
>>533031637>he doesn’t get it, he needs explanation Low IQ and brown
>>533022436He literally lifted certain embargos so Iran could keep selling their oil and release the pressure of global inflation.He's a fucking retard of the highest order.
>>533032092That's not even accurate.Both the UK and the Ottoman empire engaged in way larger scale piracy, for much longer, than the US has really been involved in anything like that.
>>533032102>What are the operational objectives?Same as it ever was. Get some real world testing in, boost the annual military budget, and feed the defense industry.>>533032236>tank the global economy as leverageDoesn't really fuck our economy. 12% of our economy is based on exports and half of that is between Canada and Mexico. We don't buy oil from Iran and definitely don't get any from Hormuz (neither do Canada and Mexico!). The neat part about consumption based economies is that you can just keep consuming and feeding it.
>>533032288Crazy Islamists writing on the philosophy of Kant
>>533022029you're laughing despite Iran getting fucked, I don't get it.>>533022566so what was Iran doing before?>i-it doesn't count!!!
>>533022029So what will happen if a Chigga vessel tries to enter or leave?
How on earth will america even enforce this?The cargo ships will just tell them to stfu and keep going. Even Iranian missiles don't deter them half the time.Then what? Will america commit global seppuku by sinking a civilian tanker?
>>533032415Get some real world testing, and tank every alliance and relationship we have in the world for Israel.
>>533031789>it can disable smaller vessels or damage superstructures, though it is not designed to sink large armored ships.Yeah, it can be used against a little fishing boat. That's about it.Holy shit why do you retards never read beyond the very first line?
>>533032102>he doesn’t get itHoly fuck and I thought Swedes were smart? What happened, too much Somali cum stained your perception? Kek
>>533031844>they could interrupt the traffic that cuts across the middle of the indian oceanFor about a day, until the Russian and Chinese nuclear submarines arrive.
>>533032521cry and shart their pants, as chinks often do
>>533032579>Get some real world testing, and tank every alliance and relationship we have in the world for Israel.Why the fuck do we care about relationships? I just said we don't depend on the world at large for our standard of living/economy. >>533032600>Holy shit why do you retards never read beyond the very first line?They used IIIBs to sink the Solemani and IRS Dena, you fucking idiot.
>>533032621Youre posts, theyre too frequent. Its time to lay down the keyboard
>>533022029Honorary Jew is illiterate.
>>533032415Ok but how are you going to win this?Like what are the actual objectives?And how are you going to achieve those objectives?Can you at least outline the basic strategic roadmap of this war before you scream at us to also get involved and get our asses dirty in this mess. It's kinda important that you tell us what the fuck is going on.
>>533030332War has changed and your military is now shit. You're not going to risk the multi billion dollar ship getting sunk by a couple of temu drones.
>>533032415I said global you faggot redditor. and this 100% affects our economy negatively, too. literally kys
>>533032102>What's the gameplan?Do whatever Bibi says, then suck his cock until his balls are fully drained.Rinse & repeat.
>>533032415>Not getting imports doesn't fuck our economy guys>That's why we spent the past year tariffing everyone in a massive spergout.
This plus the melania epstien sex scandal tells you everything you need to know
>>533032685Imagine not knowing a thing about global supply chains or the way our consumer economy works. Miggers are beyond saving
>>533032521He'll send another tweet in his hugbox.>I heard vessels are leaving the strait. If they are, they'd better not be!
>>533023464what's he going to do when a chines tanker gets permission from Iran to cross though? blow it up?
>>533023464die you stupid motherfucker
>>533032685>They used IIIBs to sink the Solemani and IRS DenaThe IRS Dena was torpedoed, shit-for-brains.
>>533032685Yuros thought they were slick and clever by allowing Iran to collect tolls to rebuild their nuke facilities. Get fucked nigger lovers.
>>533022029>>533022164It's not America that needs that oil. We're entirely self-sufficient.
>>533032700He is the same anon who posted 37 times in the last thread. Being a migger should be classified as a mental illness in the dsm
>>533032700Fuck you, I’m in the mood.
>>533032846Yes.
>>533032889So that’s why the price of gasoline went up.. no wait, huh?
>>533032846Yeah hes going to be everyones fucking favorite if he starts sinking 2 million tons of oil.
>>533031329It's a bit like Greenland. He'll threaten violence, but chicken out if anyone actually challenges him.
>>533032936This thread is going to 400 replies with this mentally ill mutt in here. Get comfy boys
>>533032936Ok just dont go too far from home and dont spoil your appetite we are having lasagna tonight
>>533031206Who knows. Multiple Israelis have said Turkey is after Iran in the last month.I suppose it is the Greater Israel project, but it makes no sense. They call Ukraine New Kazaria and Zelensky claims he is modelling new Ukraine after Israel. We know Syria is Israeli controlled - Assad ousted and a former ISIS (Israel terror org) is in control there. Currently they are rolling through Lebanon. So, if you connect the dots, with Turkey gone, they own from Israel right up to Ukraine. No idea how 15M worldwide Jews would inhabit that much land, but I guess with 1000 goy slaves each, it could add up.
>>533025073No one has a blue water navy remotely comparable to the USA
>>533032927>miggerGroypers should be sexually reassigned in public without the benefit of anesthesia. Starting with Spick Fuentes.
>>533022029>>533024509Trump's not going to let Iran profit off his war against them. Once the straight is cleaned of mines America is going to allow tankers to travel for free. This is why Trump wanted NATO allies to help him open the straight. Because why wouldn't they? Nobody is helping America open up the straight.
>>533031546>orange idiot is actually a genius and here's why!!! :D:D:D:D::DDDDDDYou guys must be the most gullible people on the entire planet
>>533033214neck yourself migger
>>533026346Holy shit lmfao. This retard still thinks American elections and political rivalries are real.No idiot. The war concludes when the American Jewish ruling class sats it ends.
>>533033177China's navy is completely comparable. The only reason you wouldn't call it "blue water navy comparable" is because they don't have naval bases all around the world where they can resupply. They literally have more boats than you. In Asia, they mog you completely.
>>533033214>straight>straight>straightGreen card detected.
>>533033214Because we have consistently said “fuck you” to all our friends since Trump has taken over. It was no problem for 40 of our past friends to come together to deal with this problem.
>>533026346If the strategic situation is good the democrats aren’t going to squander it for meaningless good will, did /pol/ forget the uniparty
>>533033214They don’t want to help because they WANT Iran to collect tolls, they WANT Iran to get money to rebuild its nuclear facilities. Trump team fucked them up real good.
>>533032846Probably drop some Navy Seals off on board and make those little slanty eyes of theirs open wide in fear.
Can't lran just sit back and not do anything now. Price of oil will increase even more now everyday. Pressure from those countries that were getting oil will be put on the united states. He wrote that long ass twit almost like he was trying to convince even himself that this is the right choice.
>>533033173Greater Israel is the whole world. They literally won’t stop until Jerusalem is the world capitol, with a world court based on noahide law also headquartered in Jerusalem, where rabbis can send billion of people to their death by execution for breaking noahide law.
>>533022029I am too lazy to make an edit of this
>>533033390The US just lost all its bases in the Gulf anyway lol
Why?
>>533026563You can’t abandon the US because the US is supplying gas
>>533033527
>>533033322I think Trump is still playing with his globe (and Lego set because he’s a genius at multitasking stuff) trying to figure out where on earth Iran really is.
French nukes on american ships.
>>533033462>Can't lran just sit back and not do anything now.Yes that's exactly what they will do.They know the orange is obsessed with his legacy and midterm elections coming up. They can stomach a long-term economic hardship, USA cant.Trump will become increasingly desperate and eventually agree to favorable terms for Iran.All they gotta do is bite their time.
>>533032889we produce less than we use, retard
Yuro sissies got btfo again. Kek
>>533029620Good luck waging WW3 with no oilThis is why electing a Dem will change nothing about this foreign policy trajectory, the US has a strong hand right now
>>533033454So your cool with this escalating into a global war just so Israel can kick pallies of their land and build condos?
>>533033420Yeah but not one ally is coming to our aid? Not even the British? What the hell. Where are our friends and allies?
>>533022029Go ahead and put a boat near by to block it
>>533033872As I say- told them all to fuck off. Got his wish apparently.
>>533033872Because you cant even tell us what the objectives are, or how you're going to achieve them, or what the exit plan is.This war is a hot mess with no fucking road map whatsoever. You really cant understand why we are reluctant to join this?Not to mention it was an act of aggression and COMPLETELY UNECESSARY.
>>533033942beastly
>>533033800You're like a lemming, gleefully running towards the edge of a cliff.
>>533033872Also, you literally threatened war with us just a couple of months ago.
>>533033977This is Iran we are talking about here. This is treachery of the highest order to allow Iran to extort tankers like this. >>533034070I guess you have a sort memory because the objective is to regime change Iran. With Iran selling oil in USD then we all win. And like Trump said Iran refuses to give up their plans for a nuke. We have to stop them.
>>533022029lol, they want our euromoney for the oil, it was never about iran or whatever, its about boosting us eco.
>>533023464He will TACO before market opens on Monday.
>>533033872France, Spain, UK and Italy have already demonstrated their intentions when they banned American bombers from flying over their territories. They tried to save Iran, but failed.They tried to finance Iran by allowing it to collect tolls, and that also failed.Kek
>>533034233>the objective is to regime change Iran. >give up their plans for a nukeOk but how are you going to achieve that.What is the strategy here?
>>533024411>thinking China will do anythingyou are the dumbest nigger to ever post on /pol/
>>533023717Shame he doesn't have bone-itus
>>533034173NATO is helping America fight China or even Iran. That's why. We got to stop fighting with each other and band together against the eastern axis(Russia,China,Iran).
>>533023464>>533022436its called the law of based equivalence. If we cant use the strait then you cant either.
>>533030234They have the warships, they have the weapons and they have the technology. They may lack experience but you've got to start somewhere; and now is a good time to start with you mutts fumbling the ball.
>>533022029>YOU CAN'T CLOSE THE STRAIT BECAUSE I'M CLOSING THE STRAIT!!I can't believe I've been saving money like a chump this entire time.>>533022436I'm gonna be honest man, I don't think the American people can handle the first week of car juice and burgers getting price hiked and shorted. It'd make the Summer Riots of '20 look like a birthday party
Iran should just send a tanker through, Trump will Taco, like he always does, just like the "Blockade" of Cuba that let Russian oil through lmaoActually getting sad how pathetic US is.
>>533034312Fuck these Muslim apologist nations. Cucked and demoralized. Save Iran? They can't even save themselves.
>>533025073You are 100% right, Iceanon. The biggest issue, which few people seem to talk about, is the fertilizer, not the oil. Growing season is about to start and the fertilizer isn't going to be there. This means mass starvation for a lot of countries. The retards who replied to you already are completely in denial if they think the rest of the world will accept that. And if the USA actually destroyed ships carrying fertilizer needed to feed the planet they would get immediately btfo by a global coalition led by China. This would be China's wet dream and they are probably praying it happens (which it wont).
>>533034381You told Ukraine to fuck themselves on prime time TVYou low key threatened war with Europe.You constantly insult us with a smug attitude by making crude remarks on dark chapters on our history every time there is a camera present.
>>533025063>but at least it will be successful until US navy ships start to get sunk.keep dreaming retard, may as well fire up your AI machine now
>>533034233Notice how you cannot answer simple questions yet we're supposed to rush blindly into this war?
>>533034070Probably don’t want to give away the objectives for obvious reasons. First, an enemy that knows your goals can tailor their strategies to counter your plans. Secondly, and most importantly, goals and objectives become the standard in which your success or failure is measured. Trump specifically avoids setting goals so that there is no way to measure the actual outcome of success. He prefers claiming and highlighting small victories along the way while downplaying the failures. Any next level outcome serves as the objective as the game progresses.
>>533033177What could a navy do if a bunch of countries just send out drones to kamikaze the ships?
>>533027787>I literally want to hear a convincing, rational, non religious, secular totally sane and calmly argued reason for why Iran>(under no circumstance ever, even if it means the global apocalypse anyway)may "never possess a nuclear weapon" and how the world must universally recognize Iran as some kind of insane, irratational international actor, incapble of reason, logic or basic humanityIt's amazing the ideological blind spot you've painted yourself into by embracing the idea that Israel is the ultimate evil and anything that is against Israel is good, therefore any actions committed in the name of harming Israel are morally good.Here's a thought experiment for you.Look at the things that Iran has done in the past month. Now imagine it was actually Israel that did them. Are you still confused as to why people don't want that country to have nukes?>b-but Israel has nukes.Would the world be better if they didn't have nukes? If you can agree that it would be better if Israel didn't have nukes then you can see why the world is better if Iran doesn't have nukes.
>>533034233This is another country that has been threatened and pushed in a corner and is using the ace up their sleeve for a win.
>>533034506If the US want to fight china (or china+third world want to fight the US) they can do it, but the US will would win. Europe won't do shit (and that might be the smart thing to do even). US reputation would obviously be in the shitter afterwards.
>>533034322>>533034620Let's see. Sanction them, blockade them, kill them, regime change them. Don't allow them to sell oil to China. What are you so afraid of? If we don't stop Iran then we don't stop Russia so China. Meaning all our countries will be at the mercy of the east. You want to be ruled by subhumans? Not me. >>533034521Well let's bury the hatch then. We must come to an understanding that these countries threaten all of us and we must band together. They are. Why can't we?
>>533034486Who do you think organized the Iranian revolution? It’s a yuropean project. The first ayatollah was “chilling” in Paris and London before he returned to Iran.Yuros are big mad right now because their 50 year old project is kaput. Kek
>>533032889without fertilizer from the middle east, your growing season is FUCKED WITH A CAPITAL F. ENJOY YOUR FAMINE.
>>533034631It's because there is no fucking plan moron.You want regime change but you cant even give the slightest hint on how to achieve it.At least both of the Bush presidents could somewhat outline a strategy on how to conquer Iraq; a feasible strategy.Again, how the fuck are you going to achieve anything, it's kinda important that we know there is a plan before we get involved in this clusterfuck, because right now all your actions seems extremely reactionary and this war has no real end in sight because you have no victory-strategy and no exit-strategy.Yet we are the problem.
>>533032521I read the tweet again. It only applies to ships that paid the toll and since chinese ships don't pay they're likely to be unaffected which means iran will still earn money while us allies and neutral countries suffer.
>>533034637then we lay mines
>>533034710I already explained this same question in another thread. For the benefit of all the new comers, I’ll share again.I have a bomb, you don’t. That makes me superior. You join the club, I lose my superiority over you.
>>533034903China holds significant grain reserves and has the technological means to build up production within a few years. I think they'll be fine. And if they're not, they will starve their pensioners to death while the productive population stays fed. China will survive this. The third world including india will suffer tremendously.
>>533034968>what’s your plan, tell us your plan You sound desperate. Kek
>>533035022Yeah more violence to secure peace.Jesus you people are warped.
>>533034844>What are you so afraid of?Another 30 years of war in the sandbox?No one wanted this shit.>kill them, regime change them. Excellent.How are you going to kill an entire country if you wont put a single boot on the ground? These guys are a little bit more sophistiacted than the Talibans, their infrastructure a little bit stronger than Tora Bora.
>>533023464Based, new world war now
>>533035082You're the one kicking and screaming that we must join this hot mess
>>533035248We won’t pay Iran shit you twat.
>>533035327You dont have a clue what you're doing and that is the problem.
>>533034506>The retards who replied to you already are completely in denial if they think the rest of the world will accept that.Why?They wouldn't lift a finger when it was Iran doing it, but now suddenly they're going to get off their ass when It's the US doing it?Please.
>>533035169Weak willed biden era thinking like yours is exactly why no one respects America anymore
>>533035203Iran is weak. It's all bluster. They don't have a functioning military. Iran is not like Afghanistan. We can literally sail right up to Iran and fuck them up. So that's what Trump wants to do.
We live in the stupidest time in History by far. Nothing has ever been so unfathomably stupid at such a big scale
>>533035417You don’t have a clue about the world you’re living in and that’s your problem.
>>533035505So why are you even negotiating with them if regime change is the primary objective?
>>533035565How about you fuck off and we're good.
>>533034968I’m not going to get mad at you because we obviously are in total agreement here. Trump has no goals. He sets goals as they are achieved so that one can never actually measure his level of success against a preset standard (goal).But I was serious about giving away one’s objective: if I know your goals and figure out your strategy to achieve them, I would counter your strategies at every turn possible.
>>533035645How about you’ll do as you’re told and you’ll be good.
>>533035575To see if they agree to peace plans that give up their nuclear ambitions. Since they refused now Trump sent in the navy. Iran is not going to be left alone until they give up their plans for nuclear weapons.
>>533033872>Where are our friends and allies?Telling you to go fuck yourself (and neck yourself).
>>533027787If Iran gets nukes then the concept of Greater Israel dies in the cradle. Nobody is supposed to be a competitor to Israel claiming the so-called "Holy Land". It would also de-legitimize the value of America's protection racket as nobody with nukes wants to throw down with the guy who has nukes. An independent Iran that commands respect makes a weaker All-American Golem.
>>533035760Well deserved, friend.
>>533034844>We must come to an understanding that these countries threaten all of us and we must band together.It's you doing the threatening.And yes, there is 'banding together' that's happening. IT'S AGAINST YOU.
>>533035248>You're the one kicking and screaming that we must join this hot messYou're already in it.Iran isn't going away just because you're ignoring it. You talk an "long term plans".What's your long term plan when Iran is the regional hegemon, protected behind a nuclear deterrent, with the ability to turn off the world's oil like a faucet?
>>533035491No. It’s actually just Trump. Bitter pill to swallow, I know.
>>533035760Why are you bending the knee to durka durkas and not helping us?
>>533035951>What's your long term plan when Iran is the regional hegemon, protected behind a nuclear deterrent, with the ability to turn off the world's oil like a faucet?Trade with them, while bombing (you) together.
>>533035979You are the durka durkas.You are the low-iq brown shitskins in this conflict.That is simple objective fact.
>>533035505Man, are you in for a surprise.
>>533022029doesn't it make the strait of ormuz even more closed?
>>533034710>Look at the things that Iran has done in the past month.got unjustly attacked by america and israel and fought back with the only means they have?
>>533035722There is nothing wrong with outlining a strategic roadmap. Even in ww2 they were very public about how they wanted to conduct the war in order to achieve victory. Even during the two iraq wars the general strategy was very simple and also public; use a marine divsion in Kuwait to blitz the country. Simple and realistic.Here you cant even create basic frame. Why should we even join a war when we dont even know what it's going to require. It's complete nonsense. We arent going to join shit when you have no fucking clue yourself what is going on. Makes sense?You're burning billion by the day and crashing the global economy. Your primary objective is regime change yet you're negotiating with said regime.
>>533035743>How about you’ll do as you’re toldKek or what?
>>533036010>While bombing (you)Be serious anon.
>>533035951>>533036051This is bad because you Europeans are demoralized. You cuck to Iran then Russia will destroy Europe. You are making peace with people who want to kill you.
>>533036088Don't forget the absolute mogging in the war on twitter. They did that too.
>>533035749>To see if they agree to peace plans that give up their nuclear ambitions. They wont. Why would they? They are winning. You cant open the strait and you cant wage this war forever.Again, no road map, no exit plan, no strategy.>Iran is not going to be left alone until they give up their plans for nuclear weapons.So +30 years of war in the sandbox then, again...
>>533034710What exactly makes Iran so special in that regard though? Pretty much every country with nukes did something completely batshit insane within the last 10 years minimum. Not to say that weapons of mass destruction should be handed out like candy; we'd be in a better world if the atom bomb experiment and its staff were cut down before the weapon was ever realized. But like, what exactly changes?
>>533036158I am serious, anon.Remember those Nukes you stationed in the Netherlands? I was personally involved in swapping out the chips on them. They're no longer yours. You don't control them.Remember how all of your other weapons rely on chips made with ASML-equipment? How half your shit doesn't exist without NXP, ASML and Philips?
>>533035491Wow, still carrying that albatross almost a year and a half into Trump’s presidency. If this were an Olympic sport MAGA would be winning with a full house.
>>533035505>We can literally sail right up to Iran and fuck them up. So that's what Trump wants to do.and why hasn't this happened yet?
>>533036171>Russia will destroy EuropeYou are brainwashed, retarded and brown.
>>533036088>got unjustly attacked by america and israel and fought back with the only means they have?Yes anon, I want you to pretend that Israel was unjustly attacked and they're fighting back with the only means they have. Do you still think these actions are justified if they're committed by Israel?Pretty funny that you're basically endorsing the Israeli response to October 7th if you take this position.
>>533036269We have no choice hence why Trump attacked. Hence why Trump wants to protect greenland from China. You want Chinese military bases in greenland? Canada too. China has agents in Canada. We are fighting China and now we are fighting Iran for you. You have to help us instead of fighting us on every little thing. >>533036413You are going to be headstrong until the Muslims slit your throat.
>>533036269>again..No anon. This time the IEDs have rotor-blades. And a video-camera of which the video will be uploaded to Telegram and Weibo.
>>533036391Heed trumps warning. If iran attacks our ships America will fire.
>>533035951Iran getting nukes in 2 more weeks has been said since the 1990s.Im wondering if its not fair game even since Israel has nukes.But the question will always keep coming back to what exactly are your plans, what's the strategy here?You keep saying permanent end to nuclear capabilities and regime change.Great.How?
>>533036517>until the Muslims slit your throat.This country is FLAT, anon. The signal on my FPV goes for miles. I can see them coming from the Belgian border with France.
>>533036517You're delusional. Get help
