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While the beatings, death threats and other inhumane treatment have drawn widespread public anger and denunciations in Congress, various accounts have thus far suggested no clear pattern to the abuse, which seems to have varied from time to time, place to place and hostage to hostage, depending more on the captors' mood or other circumstances. Carter Said He Was Shocked

Former President Jimmy Carter talked with the hostages in Wiesbaden, West Germany, and said that he was shocked at their inhumane treatment, but he made no details public. And State Department officials who have been debriefing the hostages also have made no disclosures.

The available accounts portray many cruelties: the hostages were often denied showers, mail, exercise, fresh air, sunlight and contact with one another. Some were kept in closets or darkened basements. All lost weight, 10 to 80 pounds, on diets of greasy potatoes, rice, bread and tea. Some were forced to drink wormy powdered milk. Many were subjected to hours of propaganda or revolutionary music.
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There were numerous indignities: Armed guards accompanied manacled hostages to toilets. A religous medal was ripped off the neck of Jerry Plotkin, a Jewish hostage. Johnny McKeel Jr., a Marine guard, was told falsely that his mother was dead. Letters and packages from home were burned or looted in front of their recipients. Watches, rings and other personal property were stolen.

There were rafts of intrigue: Coded messages were sent in letters to one hostage. Others, forbidden to converse, passed messages secretly. Captors were insulted in languages they did not understand. A couple of hostages tried unsuccessfully to escape. Accounts of Beatings
And there were horror stories: Beatings were inflicted on Malcolm Kalp, who was accused of being an agent of the Central Intelligence Agency; Michael Metrinko, a political officer, and others. Leland Holland, the embassy's chief of security, said he saw some hostages who were ''beat up real bad.'' Some hostages have refused to discuss this.

At least two mock executions were held, one on Nov. 7, 1979, and the other in February 1980, with blindfolded captives tied up in chairs or lined up against a basement wall before a firing squad's repeatedly ''clicking'' weapons. ''I was dead,'' Gary Lee, a business administrator, told his wife. ''I could feel the bullets in my back. I didn't wet my pants. I wanted to be proud. I wanted to stand tall.''
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>>533057270
>Iran tortured Americans

KEYED! Amerimutt goycattle golem deserve nothing less than agonising torture.
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Secretaries were subjected to Russian roulette in the first few days after the embassy takeover, and guns were held to the heads of L. Bruce Laingen, the charge d'affaires; Clair Cortland Barnes, whose duties are unknown; Lloyd Rollins, an administrative officer, and Bert C. Moore, the administrative consul, who shouted his defiance: ''Go ahead and shoot, you bastards.''

Treatment of the hostages varied widely. For example, Mr. Laingen, Victor L. Tomseth, the senior political officer, who was also interviewed by CBS News, and Michael Howland, a security officer, were treated almost deferentially. They were seized at the Iranian Foreign Ministry and, for all but the last 17 days, remained there in relative comfort. Only at the end were they jailed. Kept in Solitary Confinement

Apparently the worst treatment, by contrast, was inflicted on Mr. Kalp, whose duties at the embassy were never made public. He was beaten at least twice and kept in solitary confinement for 374 days after an escape attempt.
Others kept in solitary confinement, apparently because of their political duties on the embassy staff, included Mr. Metrinko, for about nine months; John Limbert Jr., another political officer, off and on for nine months, and Lieut. Col. David Roeder, an Air Force attache, for 63 days.
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On the other hand, Miss Koob said the students directly guarding her and Miss Swift ''were determined to prove to the world that they were not terrorists.'' Miss Koob was director of the Iranian-American Society and Miss Swift was the ranking embassy official, a message analysis-dissemination specialist, at the time the hostages were seized.

''As a matter of fact, by their ways, they were treating us real well,'' Miss Koob said, noting gifts of flowers and nuts from the female guards. ''And they were outstanding students,'' she commented. ''They were pre-law, pre-medicine, engineering.''

Both Miss Koob and Miss Swift agreed that it was the willingness of the guards ''to die the death of a martyr'' that fightened them most. By most accounts, some of the worst treatment and the most concentrated period of ill treatment came in the first two weeks after the seizure of the United States Embassy in Teheran on Nov. 4, 1979. Most of the hostages, who were being kept in small groups in the embassy, a consulate and various other buildings in the embassy compound, were blindfolded, tied or manacled to chairs, made to sleep on bare floors, forced to remain silent, fed sporadically and subjected to harangues of propaganda.

Some were paraded before angry crowds of Iranians and television cameras in scenes that etched humiliation in the American memory for years to come.
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Mr. Rollins, one of 13 hostages, five women and eight black men, who were released on Nov. 19 and 20, 1979, recalled in an interview last week that in the initial days of captivity the Iranians ''played Russian roulette'' with some of the women who were secretaries.

Kenneth Taylor, the Canadian Consul General to the United Nations, who helped spirit six American Embassy employees out of Iran in January 1980, said that for some hostages, at least, conditions at the embassy improved last year. Hands were bound less tightly, he said, and the Russian roulette was halted.

Miss Koob and Miss Swift recalled their fears when they learned, much later, of the unsuccessful rescue attempt by United States military units.

''Thank God for the sandstorm,'' said Miss Koob of her feelings when she learned of the storm that stopped the raid. Miss Swift said she, too, was relieved the attempt had not proceeded further because she felt those in the compound would have been killed.

Throughout the ordeal, the hostages were split up. Some saw only one or two other hostages throughout their captivity; others were kept in groups of as many as 15. Groups frequently were dissolved, rearranged or dispersed.
Richard I. Queen, who spent 250 days as a hostage and was released last July after he became ill, said that he was kept bound to a chair in the Ambassador's residence for the first five days, then moved to the basement of a warehouse on the embassy grounds called the ''Mushroom Inn'' by those confined there. ''

Recalling the ''night of the Gestapo raid'' in February, Mr. Queen said: ''It was about 1 o'clock in the morning. Men with masks - white masks - came in. They were dressed in fatigues, combat boots, carrying weapons, automatic rifles, and they got us up, pushed us and shoved us. They pushed us up against the wall and kicked our feet apart.''
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When they moved the first group, the captors had everybody lie down, Mr. Queen said, but one man, Donald A. Sharer, a Navy pilot, said, ''You're gonna shoot me standing up, not lying down,'' and refused to lie down. ''Then all I heard was the metallic clicking of weapons, locking the bolts, removing the safety,'' Mr. Queen said.

''I couldn't even begin to describe what it's like. I knew that was it. My last moment.'' No one was shot, but the incident left the hostages severely shaken. Reading books and letters, when available, took on a vital role in the lives of the hostages. Many turned to prayer and meditation. Miss Koob said that the two women spent most of their days reading, praying and exercising. Some Taken to Jails

Some hostages were moved to as many as 11 places after being taken out of the embassy compound. Some were taken to jails and apartments in Teheran; others were taken to prisons, military camps and other hiding places in Qum, Tabriz, Isfahan and other cities.
Many hostages told of defying their captors, some subtly and others more openly. Donald Hohman, a 38-year-old Army medic, resisted by fasting and said he was repeatedly thrown into solitary confinement.

''Not until the very end did I meet a guard I liked,'' Mr. Hohman said. ''This guy seemed to be a fairly well-educated man, a more compassionate person, who treated us like people. But all the rest I hated.''
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>>533057270
violent sand monkeys ook ook ooga booga
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Held hostage for 444 days
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>>533057341
>there was an alleged jewish victim
>the "atrocity" committed against him is that they confiscated his shiny trinket
Kek ok bud
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>>533058416
>Jerry Plotkin
>Jewwy Plottin’
An easy mistake to make
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>>533057270
They should have killed them all for installing a foreign puppet dictator over them desu
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>>533057270
>50 years ago
When you put your dog to sleep due to old age and Illness, do you beat the shit out of it for pooping in the house when it was a puppy?
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seems disingenious to call CIA agents "Americans" but leave out that they were spies

just saiyan
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>>533057270
>1981
I was born this year
you fuckers have nothing on Iran fresher?
plus how Iran-Contra ended on your side?
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>>533057270
>hostages were often denied showers, mail, exercise, fresh air, sunlight and contact with one another. Some were kept in closets or darkened basements
LMAO this is supposed to be torture?
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>>533058203
reminder this is jimmy carter's fault for giving the shah sanctuary in usa instead of letting the iranians rightfully put him on trial for all his high crimes.
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>>533060140
*laughs in basement NEET*
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>>533057270
>Mutt complaining about torture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzSnmL1mjJw
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>>533057270
>did I get any mail today?
>”shut the fuck up about the mail, Fred, there’s never mail, you’re in a fucking internment camp in the desert”
>rrrrrrrrRRRREEEEEEEEEEEE
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oyyy veeeyyu ITSAAH NUDDAH HOLLAAACAAASSTTT
boohoo faggot Anglokikes drew first blood with the Persians
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>>533057270
the 'hostages' were, literally, glow in the dark CIA niggers

the US was running ALL operations in Asia out of the Iranian embassy, at the time. the iranians invaded the embassy, and captured a bunch of glow niggers they caught shredding documents. then they did the funniest thing ever, glued them all back together and released them publicly
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>>533057270
>Iran Tortured Americans
Glowies. They were glowies.
Americans have tortured enemies in just about every war they involved themselves in. Sometimes they slaughter and rape entire villages of civilians. Girls as young as 10..
But sure, my heart bleeds for the poor glowies not getting any mail.
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>>533061699
>they did the funniest thing ever, glued them all back together and released them publicly
where can i read these



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