>>533097993
I am not religious but priests should be allowed to marry
if a dude wants to be your spiritual leader in life, he should know all the burdens, including dealing with bitches

>>533097993
>Controlled by KGB/FSB since 1922
You forgot to add this for the orthodogs

>>533097993
orthodox christianity is the most correct path of all organized religions on this planet
but it's still partially flawed due to extensive influence from evil groups

>>533098378
Orthodoxy props up a vedic social cast system.
they all love licking boots.
hinduism is the oldest.

>>533097993
>which denomination of Christiniaty is true to traditional beliefs?
Judaism

>>533097993
Priests in orthodoxy are not allowed to marry. They can their spouse if they were married before taking the vows, but if they are already a priest or if their spouse dies then they are expected to stay celibate
Also bishops monks are forbidden to marry, only lay clergy is allowed to take a wife

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>>533098247
>t. retard

>>533097993
Orthodox is less bad but it's not exactly close to the true Christian faith either.
Shit got corrupted in the first two centuries already, so there's no denomination that escaped it.
But even if that wasn't the case: it's evidently a failed ideology.

>>533098587
Patriarch is a literal school buddy of Putin and drives a Rolls Royce

>>533097993
Roman Catholicism is the true path. Yes, they fucked up at Vatican 2, the Latin Mass has been replaced with the protestantized new mass, and recent popes have been saying some sketchy things, but as CHRIST said, the gates of hell shall not prevail against His Church. (Matthew 16:18). In the same verse, Christ also said that Peter is the rock upon which He will build His Church, confirming the papacy, and every pope ever can be traced back to Saint Peter. To avoid the modernist reforms of Vatican 2, adhere to Traditional Catholicism. I would recommend attending an SSPX chapel, but remember, you still have to respect and recognize the pope.

>>533098247
Russian orthodox Church is the biggest one of autocephalous patriarchates, but it's not the only one, and not the most important

>>533098466
retarded post

>>533098721
patriarch of what, retard?

>>533097993
There is no irreconcilable theological difference between roman and orthodox catholicism. All differences of doctrine are within the scope of acceptable divergences within the creed. The difference between the two is ecclesiological (related to the organization of the church).

>>533098766
The most important one is under the boot of Muslims
>>533098848
Of you

>>533098754
Nigga, they fucked up before the Bible was compiled.

>>533098882
shalom, memeflag kike

>>533098848
patriarch of ur dad
or maybe the Son of God, who knows, apparently if people call God their father they mean it literally.
>that God fucked their mom
According to some 2nd century AD schizo anyway.

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>>533097993
>Just like SHIA is the real Islam

Differnce is that orthodox churches are government churches while catholic church is a state of it's own

>>533098679
>>533098887
Explain how it got corrupted in late antiquity

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>>533097993
Catholicism vs orthodoxy... It's like the difference between a dildo and anal beads.

Both of them are civ nat scum

>>533098856
Conception of the after life differs significantly

>>533098943
>AD
I accept your seething concession to Christ's divinity, moshe

>>533098466
That's true for any christian confession except american weirdo sects.
Honestly, it's true for any religion. It exists to prop up the social hierarchy, what kind of ruler would promote a religion that delegitimases him
>>533098882
And? Majority of muslims are very receptive to christianity. Jesus is venerated as a prophet, and during muslim occupation of Jerusalem only the most greedy of muslim rulers ever opressed christian piligrims. Also, I don't think Erdogan has as much influence of Patriarchate of Constantinople as Putin has on Moskovian

All of christianity is civ nat scum. Why is it so important for you to convert other people, why can't theu just believe in God?

If you convet other people, it means you want to breed with them/race mix, it means you are gay

>>533099028
Same case actually
>anno domini
>year of the lord
Lord of what? Ba'al? War? Being a Lord doesn't make you divine unless you're Divi Filius, the thing they stole Christ's divinity from, Mr pagan syncretist.

>>533097993
“Orthodox” isn’t a singular thing. There are multiple “orthodox” denominations.
Oriental
“True”
Various Eastern
CoE
Old Believers
I’m guessing from the Byzantine art style you are pushing an EO narrative?
The OP image lies in a couple places so some corrections are needed for the sake of truth.
1) No one uses the unchanged Nicean Creed from 325
2) baptism by “sprinkling” is affirmed in the Didache, which is one of the earliest church documents. To claim it was added in 1311 is a lie.
3) yes they reject the immaculate conception, but they additional doctrine, including one’s originating from condemned texts. They hold that Mary lived in the temple, obtained gnosis and invented a method of prayer which was the cause of the incarnation.
4) EO clergy is celibate. Only priests can marry. Anyone higher must be celibate.
Hope this helped,

>>533099000
In judaism, the church is not a state church, it is a RACIAL church.

So much better than this civ nat scum.

God dispersed the Jewish people because he wnted to make Jews PRIESTS of RACIAL NATIONALISM to all the nations of the earth

>>533098887
How

>>533099018
They are very similar. Catholicism has purgatory (well, the primary line. There’s historical lines in the catholic church that go as far as to outright reject purgatory) where a recoverable soul spends a indeterminate amount of time to be cleansed while the orthodox claim you go to a mini rebirth where to go through new trials to determine if you go to heaven or not. Afterlife itself is identical.

>>533099178
The Lord of making you butthurt

>>533099007
Well.. it's not hard to see they took some license when writing the gospel, no? The four gospels don't even agree on things, and leave quite a lot of room for interpretation.
>this incoherent babble is infallible
Totally make sense. And that's before we consider some people's pen pal letters made it into the Bible, and a shitload of other inconsistencies or forgeries or pagan influences.

>>533097993
>>533099193
Then again the OP is a 1PBTID memeflag so this is probably a D&C thread so ignore my previous post and post herbs in ALL FIELDS

>>533099256
He really doesn't. I might be the one person immune to God, because I attained gnosis (in as much this is possible).
But I wouldn't say it's worth the effort. Best to just forget about this crap - unless you're autistic and can't do that (like me).

christianity

are fucked nobody knew which is one right, it by design btw, jew did this

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>The Chanes, or "People of the Serpent," are described in the Chilam Balam books as the first inhabitants of the Yucatán, arriving from the East with their leader Itzamana, a healing figure. These texts identify them as a "serpent" or "iguana" race with ties to early Maya history, often connected to the arrival of Kukulkan.
>The Kaanul (Snake) Dynasty was a dominant Maya royal house (c. 5th–8th centuries AD) that utilized a snake-head emblem, ruling from Dzibanche and later Calakmul to control a vast, aggressive hegemon over the Maya lowlands. They were major rivals of Tikal, expanding their influence through strategic military victories and alliances.
>Votan, or Pakal Votan, is a legendary Mayan figure associated with the Tzeltal people and often linked to the "Serpent People" (Chanes) in esoteric, pseudo-historical, and some mythological accounts. These narratives often describe Votan as a culture hero or "Serpent of the East" who established civilization, rather than a modern claimant to the title.
>Votan is described in tradition as a "snake, a descendant of Imos, of the line of Chan, of the race of Chivim," associating him with this serpent lineage. He often embarked on quests to prove he is a "Culebra" (Cobra).
>Kukulkan renewal refers to the "Descent of the Serpent," a dramatic light-and-shadow phenomenon at El Castillo in Chichén Itzá during the spring and autumn equinoxes. As the sun sets, seven triangular shadows appear to form a snake descending the pyramid's staircase, representing the god Kukulkan's return and bridging of the tree of life, symbolizing agricultural fertility, cosmic balance, and cyclical rebirth.

>>533097993
Why are there several threads about Orthodoxy and Catholicism. The way you mention shia and sunni makes me think jews are throwing out another strategy to cause division

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>Which flavor of kike worship is better?
Huwhite people are gonna die out. Deserved for how retarded they are.

>>533099205
>it is a RACIAL church.

Yeah,Jews are one race , not just mutts

Retard

>>533099639
It's extremely antisemitic actually.
>nooo you can't worship the kike who came to kikes and told them to stop acting like kikes whereupon said kikes had him killed because they wanted to keep their kike ways
>this makes you a kike
It's not worship anyway; at minimum you are not supposed to do that.

>>533099670
Would you rather have Sicilians (genetically like Ashkenazim) or Yemenite jews in Israel?

>>533099010
>religion is about politics

>>533098679
>On June 23, 2021, a 37-year-old Greek Orthodox priest (hieromonk) threw caustic liquid/acid at seven senior bishops during a disciplinary hearing in Athens, injuring 10 people in total. The attack occurred at Petraki Monastery after the church court decided to expel him for misconduct involving drug trafficking charges.

>>533098957
is it not

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>>533099740
>Worshipping a kike is antisemitic
The absolute state

>>533099670
I mean is the scripture and the faith part of God?
I wouldn't say it is, but in a sense the perspective is understandable; fact's merely that God is a whole lot more than that.
So while the trinity is a mistake it is not strictly fatal.

>>533099627
It’s a 1BPTID thread
Another is a 2BPTID
Always check to see if the OP is engaging in serious discussion. Otherwise it’s a D&C thread

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>>533099759
Neither

>>533099880
Nigger what?

>>533097993
The one practiced by the disciples
Closest is modern messianic revivals; though they vary by a wide margin due to prodestant overflow and multiplication by division
Remember anon. GOD Separates the sheep from the goats and His sheep hear His Voice, not some pope or preacherman or hierarchy of mans traditionalist bullshit
Thou shalt not go awhoring after a multitude and pervert judgement

Do they use the right calandar and folloe and uphold the Feasts and Commandments? If not, no theyre in rebellion
Do they keep the Law but reject Jesus as does modern rabbinic judaism? Then theyre in rebellion

Read ezekiel 20:33+ for conditions of the tribulation, part of that 3 and 1/2 year process is purging the rebels who will not obey the LORD / YHVH / JESUS CHRIST

>>533099295
>it's not hard to see they took some license when writing the gospel, no?
The gospels went through countless generations of linguistic study in all over the christian world in order to catch and interpolations and were confirmed by later manuscript discoveries in the contemporary age. Also, the compiling of the gospels was not a centralized process, and was agreed upon by roman, eastern orthodox, monophysite it's not hard to see they took some license when writing the gospel, no?
And the compiling of the gospels was not a centralized process, being agreed upon by roman, eastern orthodox, monophysite and myaphisite catholics. Hell, even arians didn’t diverge from the canon, being anathemized in the council through other deliberations.
> The four gospels don't even agree on things, and leave quite a lot of room for interpretation.
That’s a failure of the religion, not of the Church.
>and a shitload of other inconsistencies or forgeries or pagan influences.
List a single forgery.

>>533099627
Because king migger is biblically bad and it has lots of people examining their souls and consciences?

>>533099873
Assuming the Holocaust happened and Hitler was secretly jewish, does this make Nazis kikes?
Of course you can see Christianity as the legitimate form of Judaism: he reformed it, creating the correct jewish belief - which in essence is what he said was his goal.. But then it becomes in turn questionable whether "jews", who didn't accept his reforms, actually are jewish instead of the Synagogue of Satan as Jesus called them in some guys LSD-fueled fever-dream.

>>533099920
picrel seems kind of arrogant and unfounded

>>533099920
Jesus is "the word", and the Holy Spirit is the presence of the Lord inside things, like faith inside people.
Can they be considered a part of God? Sorta maybe I guess, but it's not strictly correct either.

>>533100052
There is no correct jewish belief. It in inherently wrong. Nothing that comes from a poisoned tree will ever be healthy.

>>533100232
withing the context of judaism, what is the most legitimate form of judaism?

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>>533098679
Indeed, but as with the woman who had issue of blood for 12 years, grabbing hold of Jesus Christ's tzitzit; the fringe threads on the four corners of His garment, was exactly as the Commandment entails: i.e. wear those and keep your eyes held fast to them and be reminded to follow the LORD / YHVH / JESUS CHRIST, your GOD, and not go awhoring with one's eyes after your lusts
And we do it all the time
And the solution is to lean back on God and His Commandments, to return to them, teshuva, repent, and sin no more, and be BORN AGAIN BY HIS BLOOD, for He Redeemed us out of sin
And john the baptist Confirmed this of thr Spirit of God and both the Father and Jesus being declared: as HIS SON, john as high priest of the zaddok covenant lineage confirming also that JESUS CHRIST IS an UNBLEMISHED LAMB OF GOD, and fit to Redeem the people

Note: the restoration of the 12 tribes of Israel, and unification of both the house of Israel and the house of judah - or thr split kingdoms, all occurs under the gathering from the 4 corners as a FINAL REDEMPTION OF THE WHOLE HOUSE OF ISRAEL: commonly aka the bride of CHRIST
This is the Essence of understanding the Working Will of God to Unite the houses, Declare Himself unto the nations, Judge both individuals and nations abroad, Separate the sheep/wheat from goats/tares, and Judge the wicked that remain- in whom also adopted the mark of the beast and became unclean temples; blaspheming the Holy Spirit within them

When we recieve a functioning altar, amd it is no longer in service and rejected by the world, thats day 1 of the 3 and 1/2years tribulation

>>533097993
Wait mary is not a virgin in orthodox?


Also slightly related, did Joseph wed mary/have sex with her after she conceived/ gave birth to jesus?

>>533099796
It's not. A pajeet is trying to be cute

>>533100397
how is it not tho

>>533097993
Orthodox. The Catholic took money to redeem sins and to repent.

>>533100321
Probably modern samaritanism. But I don’t think talmudism is incorrect within the scope of the tradition.

>>533100346
She is. And no.

Catholics believe the immaculate conception which means she was born sinless. Orthodox believe she was born the same as any of us but her womb was sanctified for Jesus. Both believe in virgin birth

>>533099971
>was agreed upon
No, they were excommunicated or killed, or excommunicated then killed.
Maybe you should put some effort into actually reading the book. It's not that hard, honestly.
And by "read" I mean actually read it, the text, what it says, without any weird preconceived opinions, and then - the most challenging part - think about what you just read and apply some common sense. That's really all it takes to take the first step.
>if you have the luxury of not being murdered for it
Most didn't.

>That’s a failure of the religion, not of the Church.
Sure, but the body of the church has to rely on the instructions; and not of the bare scripture, since evidently they could be "misinterpreted". That happened quite a few times and cost the lives of more than a hundred million people or so.

>>533100432
They believe that the Quran is corrupted and there's a hidden Quran. They pray to Ali. They have practices that the prophet did not like self flagellation for the Karbala incident.

>>533100232
Well yeah, I can't argue with that.
Even in the best case, if it is not 100% wrong it's still mostly wrong, at least where established religion is concerned.

>>533099007
Marcionism a heresy

Whatever the arguments for or against it are, are irrelevant, because it proved that the church was unwilling to cut the umbilical cord to the old testament, which is just jewish supremacism and anti-universalism. You cannot claim to be a universalist church that believes in the salvation as taught by the new testament, but also promote the calls for ethnic eradication and ethnic exclusion that Moses the Atenist heretic promoted. You need to draw a dividing line, where either Jesus was real and his teachings were real and the God is not the God of Israel but rather the God of All, who has now overwritten his mitzvot with the new ones where the genocidal vengeance is replaced by love and forgiveness, or you threaten everything that Jesus taught by associating with the ancient Atenist cult (the old testament) that was explicitly composed as a revenge power fantasy for the expelled atenist priests, who would later become "the jews". You threaten Jesus' message by making him sound dissonating because the religion that is promoted in the NT is completely orthogonal in its moralities and teaching to the one from the OT. It's like the zutt moment of Christianity, the one thing that no one is supposed to mention because it threatens the religion.

Well the church refused to do any of that. This was the first shittest that the religion had to pass, where it dumps the jews and scrubs out the OT and keeps it to just Jesus and beyond. It didn't do that and declared anyone who called for it a heretic and then reformed to constraint access to the bible to only the initiated few who would not question the OT, so that the goyim masses couldn't possibly summon another Marcion. It's funny and telling how the second they got access to printing again a millennium later, that the religion underwent an instant schism.

>>533097993
It's funny when you're not a christcuck
>triple immersion vs sprinkling
Wow he got more tap water on him than the other, lmao. I took a shower in the same water yesterday.

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>>533099007
It started with prior to Jesus Christ's birth: the maccabean revolt resulted in a brokered political deal with the selucids and thus broke the lineage of priesthood thst continued since zaddok under both david and solomon
Tldr: zaddok was the Fulfillment of prophecy from phineas for an Everlasting priesthood Covenant with the LORD / YHVH / JESIS CHRIST
That remained in effect: the improper rebellion of this Covenant of priests even up to the idumean dynasties brokering a similar polotical agreement with herod
By then you have fully formed 2 major factions of pharisees amd sadducees, and arguably idumean converts in name only: a edomite infiltration that corrupted everything to their own gain and including high priest appointment

Thus, for well over the next 200 or so years from the selucid greeks to the Time of Jesus Christ's Birth, you had a parallel third faction, The Way (remember paul went to persecute them!), and they retain an ascetic lifestyle, are the former zaddok priests leading the communities, every shavuot/pentecost - they would accept new members into their fellowship
John the baptist's father, held to Account to Name john john and not his own fatherly name; was a continuation on the Covenant of Name for the last zaddokite high priest, yochanan, before the maccabean replacement

Picrel is from a baptist perspective of how many people died keeping the originality and martyrdom preserving fragments of Truth through the ages for even just baptism and the proper gospel

Again, God isnt a respector of persons. This is just one example of persecution, likewise its everywhere, and a faithful remnant is Established By His Tender and Eternal Mercies

>>533099605
Itzamna is Votan, Odin, Thoth, and Nabu.
Kukulkan is Enki.
Tammuz is Hun Hunaphu. They're all aspects of the One.
Knowledge spread around the world from an older civilization that existed before the flood. God is within you, a personal rebirth through Kundalini is required to find him, and no church is truly teaching that these days.

>>533100397
>It's not. A pajeet is trying to be cute
https://files.catbox.moe/ddz4ix.mp4

>>533100796
Alright what's your point Sanjay? We don't claim we are super power 2020 and world CEO.

Catholics believe in things like astrophysics and evolution because all science comes from God. Orthodoxfags are creationists who believe that Earth is 5000 years old like Evangelical jew golems because they think science and logic is fallen.

>>533100547
>They believe that the Quran is corrupted
No doubt about that considering who compiled it, under what circumstances, and what the outcome was.
>and there's a hidden Quran
That I do not know. In the abstract sense, sure.
>the true divine scriptures exist in that God created them
But not in book form, I suspect.
Rather it would have to be something like the ten commandments and accompanying story.
>Allah literally wrote that shit on a rock in his own hand
Doesn't appear to be the case, and I'm pretty sure Moses made that up (just like he was made up himself).
Would a man be able to write the perfect, flawless divine book? Unlikely. At the very least there would be some mistakes in it; literally cannot be any other way.

>>533097993
Jesus said "I am the way", not catholicism is the way, not orthodox is the way, not Baptist is the way. Denominations will not save you, only a personal relationship with Jesus christ will.

>>533100510
>No, they were excommunicated or killed, or excommunicated then killed.
Yeah, there were people who still defended clearly fake texts because they allowed them to have their weird rape cults and were excommunicated for it. Good riddance. The reason for estabilishing the canons is all documented by Anasthasius.
>Maybe you should put some effort into actually reading the book. It's not that hard, honestly.
What text? The canonical decrees?
>Sure, but the body of the church has to rely on the instructions; and not of the bare scripture, since evidently they could be "misinterpreted"
You are changing the goalpost. The 4 gospels were accepted by christians since at least the 2nd century. If there is any divergence between them, it’s the fault of christianity itself rather than the nicene convention, which excluded fake texts that were usually written much later.
>That happened quite a few times and cost the lives of more than a hundred million people or so.
Yes. And it’s the reason why the bible should never had been translated. Latin is an easy language (especially if you accept having a broken, caseless latin) and if you can’t even bother with learning that, you have no business giving your opinion on religion. That’s how we get retarded philosemitic evangelicals who read the schofield bible.

>>533100951
>No doubt about that
Claim without evidence. Cannot be corrupted even if you wanted to. Come to Pakistan and I'll show you how we've had people transmitting the Quran completely orally without a single manuscript by illiterate people this tradition has been there for more than thousand years. Some groups don't and never relied on any written text.
>In the abstract sense
No they say there's a hidden Quran which is X times longer and it's called the Fatima mushaf. No one has seen it though.


>Allah literally wrote that shit on a rock in his own hand
Never made that claim.

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>>533099193
One Fundamental Truth that ive been able to determine with iconography and various paintings of the Holy Things, Events, and Stories od the bible: but especially so for this example is of JESUS CHRIST, WHO IS GOD
and that is this:
Namely, everyone and i mean almost everyone, gets the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, Blessed Is He, in the improper location for His Hand/Arm piercings
It was never through the palms of His Hands, as this would break bones and violate Scripture
He was Pierced in between the wristbones, ulna, and radius: thus affixing Jesus to the cross
He wouldve slipped through if affixed by the palms from the weight of His Body, Broken and Bruised amd Suffering for our sins there
Between Him was also the two thieves
Idk if ever a painter or artist artistically added the motif of say, bar-abbas, (the murderer whos name "is son of the father" and whereby Jesus Who's the Actual SON OF GOD) replaced within the crowd
These two thieves are every single one of us: both accusing God and beckoning His Forgiveness
We are all children of our Father; much like bar-abbas, and Jesus Christ Takes our place- not that we deserved it
Bar-abbas still lived a life
The theieves did not
And the Glory of God was to Promise a man There on his death next to the Creator God, That this man's place woukd be with God, Who Is Jesus Point Blank Speaking Directly to Him, Saying this man would be IN PARADISE WITH HIM but momentarily until they all gave up the Ghost and both died

Now
Bear in mind
You have well over 1 million in the crowd
Multiple people experiencing the Feast of Passover and Unleavened Bread and Firstfruits - all while travelling there for what the pax romana is worth
This is the Son of Man talked about for the last two or so years of the average interested party hearing or at least following to this moment- that is to say, a great multitude
People dont just lie about a testimony
Again
Blessed is he who does not see
You will witness His Scars

>>533101036
Spoken like a true Baptist lol

>>533100894
wrong. There is no dogma on that so you’ll get people who may believe creationism and those who believe science is from God

>>533098566
>>533098063
In Eastern Christianity, you have the option to be a married priest or a celibate one, but you have to chose either before becoming a priest. A priest can't get married after the fact.

>>533098856
There's many differences. From the Roman Catholic perspective, Eastern Orthodoxy can be accommodated and they increasingly see it as a sister church, but the reverse is not true.

>>533099193
The main denominations are Eastern Orthodoxy, Oriental Orthodoxy, and Nestorianism (Church of the East). There are other churches that are derived from the aforementioned but are not in communion.

There's also Eastern Catholics who are schismatics from the aforementioned that entered communion with the Roman Catholic Church and the Pope in Rome but did not adopt the Latin Rite.

>>533100547
Many sects and groups believe that but not the majority of Twelver Shia. There are other reasons why Twelvers are considered heretics from a Sunni perspective. They believe their Imams are omniscient, infallible and were created before the earth.

In Sunni Islam but in no other sect, the Quran was created before the earth and is co-eternal with God much like how Jesus is co-eternal in Trinitarian Christianity. Zaydi Shia and Ibadis fall within the fold of Islam from a Sunni perspective, but the other Shia sects are considered heretics.

>>533101547
>Quran was created before the earth and is co-eternal with God
False. It is uncreated and it is not eternal. Wrong on both accounts. Nice try though

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>>533100202
I posted the Word that the WORD of God Is and was being Referred to by john in his gospel account of Jesus, aka john 1:1 and VARIOUS other places - i.e. before abraham was, IAM; which is being inferred YHVH
recall
His (transliterated) ahramaic inscription on the cross, and of the two other languages
Picrel
>arhamaic transliterations
Yeshuah
Hanazaret
Vemelehk
Hayehudim

^do you see YHVH?
THIS was the sole reason the pharisees made a big fuss and dispute over it to pilate, who replied
>i have written what i have written
Was after he washed his hands remember
And the centurion prior declared,
>truly THIS Was the SON OF GOD
because, know why?
He had a inclined perspective POV into the temple basin, since the crucifixion was on golgatha, Jesus Christ was raises above and in superposition above the altar pyre in the background
This centurion sees Jesus burning above the altar and suffering from His POV
And then into the courtyard and the partitions of all the temple up to its front door and inner sanctuaries of the House of God // beit Hamikdasch, this centurion sees the veil rent
TRULY THE SON OF GOD
how can HE deny that intrinsic POV???
HE CANT
pilate heard this, saw this, everyone else ia confirming it among the great many other things and eclipse
We are talking over 1 million people, AND worldwide, saw that eclipse among their astronomers
>gee i wonder why there is a cultural revolution
Things that make you go hmmmm
People want to BURY and FORGET this part of HIStory, but His Story will not be forgotten by the faithful lot, we both know it, and are born again of Him
So, we have a trail of martyrdom blood hitherto, and when that cup of Wrath and Bitter Anguish is filled to the brim of God's Outpouring of it: we will be the least of which is to know WHY
>recall, God is not a respector of persons
Both of us and everyone itt is guilty before God, go to Him, hope yall understooded betters the Glory of God, Jesus Christ

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>>533098587
>>533098766

>>533101176
>The reason for estabilishing the canons is all documented by Anasthasius.
To an extent; but there's also cases where there's no reason to believe them over those they persecuted. In fact sometimes the opposite is the case, and what was adopted is blatantly sussy in comparison, especially where syncretism (pagan influence) is concerned, but to realise this requires some in depth knowledge of pagan religions as well.
>What text?
Just the canonical Bible, yes. You can read the apocrypha too but it's not strictly necessary; although there are some interesting bits.
>The 4 gospels were accepted
But this only dodges or amplifies the problem. Why would there be four? There aren't 4 Jesusses.. Jesi? Why not 12?
It's not even certain who wrote most of that stuff. In some cases it's outright established that the guy whose name is one it wasn't the author.
>it’s the reason why the bible should never had been translated
I admit it might have been preferrable, but purely for practical reasons. It was bad enough before it was translated, before every random peasant decided to come up with their own interpretation.

>>533101208
I doubt people have to capacity to replicate God's will totally without error. This is already shown in the very first episode, in the Garden of Eden, and Iblis may have something to do with it.

>>533100645
>Marcionism a heresy
Yes? What is your gripe, that catholicism recognizes the Devil?
>because it proved that the church was unwilling to cut the umbilical cord to the old testament, which is just jewish supremacism and anti-universalism
Well, that is because Jesus was jewish, believed in the jewish God, had his first followers among the jews and upheld jewish tradition in so far as what he did not deem to reform. Reform, not destroy, mind you. Separating the got preached by Jesus and the jewish God is just ridiculous from a sociological perspective
>where either Jesus was real and his teachings were real and the God is not the God of Israel but rather the God of All
The God of Israel is the God of All. If you don’t like that, don’t be christian. Simple as that.
>who has now overwritten his mitzvot with the new ones where the genocidal vengeance is replaced by love and forgiveness
You see, you only say that because you use the ambiguous concept of love derived from the roman lexicon. You hen you read it as agape, which is the notion of recognizing the inherent quality of a being, this argument stops making sense. In fact, even chabad hasidim love all humans while simultaneously being millenarian meschisists who want to kill all goyim because of some autism related to our supposed animal soul and how it can cleanse us.
>You threaten Jesus' message by making him sound dissonating because the religion that is promoted in the NT
Nope. You’re the one who projects a non-existent rejection of the jewish tradition and philosophy in the teachings of Jesus.
>It's like the zutt moment of Christianity, the one thing that no one is supposed to mention because it threatens the religion.
If you don’t like it, don’t be christian. This isn’t even a catholic thing, even protestants agree with you hat you’re criticizing. In fact, they are usually more rigorous judaizers than catholics.

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>>533101880
also a jew

>>533098247
They also forgot to include the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire before that.

>>533097993
Forgot to include rebaptism on the left and communion with rebaptisers.

>>533101880
I don't exactly disagree, just think that the "son" part shouldn't be taken too literally. You can be someone's spiritual son, in the extended sense.
>the Son of Man
Worth to note that all of "Israel" is called the Sons of God in Genesis.
Jesus just was evidently more sonny than his contemporaries.

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>>533098378
Orthodox patriarchs are far more corrupt than their Catholic counterparts. There is no separation of Church and State in Greek Orthodoxy. The ROC is literally an organ of the state.

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>>533102008
>The God of Israel is the God of All. If you don’t like that, don’t be christian. Simple as that.
But I'm not a christcuck. I'm only answering your question. You consciously and willingly bow to the god of Israel, to Aten. That's entirely your choice and you can do that as much as you like and I'm not going to waste one calorie trying to dissuade you against it.

>>533100894
Jesus Christ Spoke the world into existence
And in seven days all things were Created
Including the angels that rebelled
And we have ourselves a prophetic WORD picture, due to paleohebrew, from the getgo
>>533101341
Here
^

In addition to this is also the very first word, Bereshith, which the bet letter is a figirative house, and the RESH is the Prince, or basically Jesus Christ understood as building His House here on earth
Angels rebel, later on, basically clone "hue"-mans by intermingling and sowing seed among the daughters, get Exiled By God, and satan disrupts the creation by tempting eve during the fall
The septuagint accurately Reccolectd the age of the earth with all the accurate year dates of the patriarch's ages that followed adam
Bear in mind, Jesus Christ was the 70th generation from adam
>this generation shall not pass away
We are this generation hitherto
Christians- converts or the lost tribes being regathered, and the faithful of israel of the their tribes; benjamin, judah, levi - all 3 are intact with some of their identity throughout the ages
All are one in the bride of Christ
Its still the 70th generation because Christ is Eternal
And yet it also said eslewhere in Scripture that a day is as a thousand years
Recall, both a 7-day Creation, where God Rested on the sabbath and Hallowed it
And a prophecy regarding the Ressurection of Messiah
Hosea6:2
After two days will he revive us: in the third day he will raise us up, and we shall live in his sight.

2000 years approximately in the A.D. for conventions sake
Im not going with the consensus that its exactly more or less the 2000 years according to Hosea6:2 - thats not really up to debate
Israel has regathered under the pretenses of zionism, and for now this attracted a large segment of faithful and unfaithful alike, as much as theres probably LoAmmit folks that were right next door and forgot theyre Israelites properly-

Yes, the only remaining prophecy for them is ezekiel 38 - 39

>>533100697
As described in the book of Kings, Edom was the only regional power whose deity was not purged by Jehosaphat and Jehu after their consolidation of power. And God Punished Israel on the Mozabite War for threatening Edom. The whole notion of edomite antagonism is a fabrication. Unless you believe that the entire OD is a hasmonean fabrication.

>>533101208
>Claim without evidence. Cannot be corrupted even if you wanted to.
The islamic tradition itself recognizes that there were passages of the Quran that were only orally transmitted and memorized by a single guy in something akin to a divine miracle. What if it wasn’t a miracle and the guy just made shit up? Literally impossible to prove their legitimacy.

which Christianity to professes the full testimony of Scripture: that Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God from eternity passed, became a man, lived a sinless life, died as a ransom for our sin, was buried and rose again on the 3rd day, in conquering death and the grave, and ascended into heaven to prepare a place for those who would believe and receive His eternal life freely given. That God the Father sent His Holy Spirit to testify of Jesus Christ and to indwell believers and strengthen, teach and comfort followers of Jesus. And that the Lord Christ shall return again to judge the living and the dead: teaching and believing that, they are Christians true. If they teach that the cross of Christ is the sinner's cross, that the death of Christ is the sinner's death, that the tomb of Christ is the sinner's tomb, and that the resurrection of Christ is the believer's new-life and the ascension of Christ is the believer's new-life ... bonus points from Roman's chapter 6 and Ephesians 2 and Galatians 2.
True Christianity must teach that salvation is "by grace alone, through faith alone," and also as the council of Trent rightly states, if anyone thinks that only means an "intellectual ascent" they are heretics. Because as James 2 teaches, as the body without the breath is dead, so too, faith without works is dead.
But it is God who works in us to will and to do what pleases Him.
>tl;dr ask God, hear Him, receive His love and kindness, and obey His Word.
IT STARTS WITH YOU OPENING YOUR HEART TO JESUS:
and then let Him in and then you
ASK
SEEK
KNOCK
RELENTLESSLY (not only in the passing post-nut naptime of dismay)

>>533101971
>But this only dodges or amplifies the problem. Why would there be four? There aren't 4 Jesusses.. Jesi? Why not 12?
The reason why there’s 4 not 12 is because the other extant gospels are knowingly fabricated via linguistical analysis. It’s possible to know which lexicon and grammatical practices were in place at the time where the gospels ought to have been composed, and shit like the Gospel of Thomas simply do not pass this scrutiny due to a series of linguistic anachronisms.
As for why 4 and not 1, that is a matter of historical tradition within christianity, and also due to the impossibility of establishing seniority between them. The Gospel of John was subject to a lot of scrutiny, and some people initially claimed that only the Gospel of Luke was real, but all of these notions were ultimately discarded. Contradictions like the ancestry of Christ need to be solved via loopholes like the adoption hypothesis. Either that or they are irreconcilable and christianity is fake.

>>533099251
Which one describes heaven as me wanting nothing more than to bask in the radiance of God like a lichen covered rock for all eternity? I need my God crack.

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>>533102026
Except hes not a "jew" in the traditional sense because His and His followers were THE WAY, not a pharisee, not a sadducee, not an obsever of oral torah, and not as a rabbinic orthodox jew/hassidim of today
Look at a Fulfillment of Torah: which means you have to understand Torah's core concepts and lessons through His Perspective
Hence
>thou shalt not commit adultery
Black and white thou shalt and shalt not
>to lust with one's eyes is adultery of the heart
Emphasis Added

Do you see and understand the difference between the black and white of the Commandment: thou shalt not commit adultery?
And the various punishment involved, namely worthy of death sin
Now
Beyond black and white is the core of the heart
How does the heart weigh in the Eyes of God Who Seeth all things pertaining to a man's lust?
Jesus Christ was a judahite by his adoptive paternal lineage
He was of the priests of levi through his mother, recall she is cousins to elizabeth and zecharias her husband, john the baptist's father
I already made a indepth post about john itt involving intricacies of the politics of their setting
>>533102239
Jesus Christ Who Is God Has a great MANY Names and Characteristics to Describe and Self-Ascribe Meaning and Depth to His True Expression as IAM

And yes, contexts determines the verbage
A great deal of mistranslation and misunderstandings within the core of the bible is due to: a lack of cultural context due to unfamiliarity (or any of the antiquity cultures mentioned), but also especially is the function over form methodology of reasoning; who what where when why how
Rather than form over function
>oh it looks like this, that must be how it works
Not so
And we are guilty of that linearity of point a-b as europeans/western philosophical imprudence
Circular logic systems dont lend themselves to western minds as much as do dogmas and reciprocity
Until there is something like a Ressurection involved, we have a hard time understanding how to let go of 'tisms

>>533102479
> You consciously and willingly bow to the god of Israel, to Aten. That's entirely your choice and you can do that as much as you like and I'm not going to waste one calorie trying to dissuade you against it.
I don’t. I’m just a scholar who is proud to say that I understand more about the christian religion than 98% of its adepts. If you want to reject it, you should be able to articulate why you reject it, after all.
It’s just that, within the scope of christianity, it is clear that catholic theology is superior than protestant delusions.

>>533097993
None of those things has any bearing on salvation through Jesus Christ. But you knew that already, jew.

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>>533102665
The idumeans were edomites/descendents as such

>>533102928
This guy knows

>>533103307
>claims to know
Thats pride
>professed the catholic
Thats the whore of babylon, rome is upon seven hills rev17, um hello??? Smart department???

>>533103204
Idk bros, but i just noticed i have a very cool ID for the thread

>>533103164
>the other extant gospels are knowingly fabricated via linguistical analysis.
Yeah they did linguistic analysis in year 300 where noone ever thought about analysin linguistics.
But the translated bullshit you believe is true which was translated over and over again, with KJV having fucking unicorns instead of oxes in it - is the truest of truths.
You fuckiers are retarded beyond saving.
Abolishing slavery and serfdom was the biggest mistake humanity made. You should be whipped to death on cotton fields to this day.

>>533103204
So, you only want a religion that makes you feel good and tell that you are valid regardless of its relation to the truth? I’m afraid evangelicalism is the only way.
But if you ignore the transitory period, all forms of catholicism lead to that.

>>533102026
>Jesus WAS jewish
Yep, was, until they kicked him out because he offended the saints (whipping the moneylenders).
There's some obvious bias in "Christianity began as a jewish sect".
How or why did it stop being a jewish sect? I'm pretty sure it's still a jewish sect. One could go even further and say it is the definite jewish sect (according to Jesus), meaning it's the other jewish sects who aren't jewish.
And for the record: there were a whole bunch of jewish sects in Jesus' day, which all were functionally wiped out with the destruction of the temple, except for Christianity. Organised "Judaism" was reestablished later in emulation of the Pharisees, one particular minority sect, in explicit opposition and contrast to the Christian majority.
What's certain is that modern Judaism and Christianity can't both be jewish, because they are fundamentally opposed in their beliefs.

>>533103237
Jesus was a pharisee. Pharisitism vs sadduceism was a sociopolitical movement, not a religious group. And Jesus fell squarely in the traditionalist, anti-roman camp.

I would say priests miraculously surviving the Hiroshima bombing is enough to prove Catholicism:https://ewtn.co.uk/article-the-jesuit-priests-who-survived-hiroshima/

>>533103164
Now we're getting there. In conclusion we cannot be 100% certain which parts of the 4 gospels are correct, especially where they disagree or only one book mentions it. Some careful judgement needs to be made, and things must be understood within the context of the time and writing, further making uncertain what exactly was meant with some expression.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig1hGJI_dnc

>>533097993
>sprinkling
?
Catholic baptism is done by triple immersion too.

>>533097993
>which jewish fairytales are true
none of them. PRAISE. THE. SUN.

>>533097993
Gnosticism. Yahweh is a disgusting Semitic demon.

>>533103457
>Yeah they did linguistic analysis in year 300 where noone ever thought about analysin linguistics.
Believe it or not, but people studied philology long before Christ was even born. And the findings of the Council were replicated over millennia by countless scholars and confirmed by manuscripts. So yeah, saying that shit like the gnostic gospels are fake is easy. It’s like they claimed to be written in the 1840s but were using terms like “finna” and “based”.

>>533103572
>how
A process of exclusion mostly
There was a division among gentile converts and their more greeco-roman cultural aptitudes
Then came riled up glowniggitry of the day, and people sowed seeds of discord among the bretheren
First for the "juadizing"
>oh nooo he circumcized his son
>well yeah dude, hes an physical descendent of abraha-
>ACK
and then fastforward these types of disturbances, eventually it grows to positions of power: and through a process of exclusion like in the council of nicea, the literal descendents of Jesus Christ - or the church thereof if you will from that region and tradition, was not even invited to the council of nicea
Now multiply this multiplication by division and you get both the gospel spreading like wildfire throughout centuries of blind persecution, and a trail of blood and martyrdom alongside things being forgotten over time
God Preserved a faithful remnant regardless, and recent archaological discoveries lent the last century of scholars a great deal breakthroughs to tl;dr confirm the biblical Narrative more than we already knew to believe, right? Right

>>533097993
There is not a Orthodox outside Eastern Europe that isn't a Prot jumping ships because Prots are becoming unpopular and lame or Christian Nationalist larper who wants to cherry pick the Bible so it doesn't contradict the politics they want to push.

>>533103237
I agree completely (besides the first sentence but that actually isn't important within my belief).
There is no need to be 100% correct (or certain) with your beliefs. In fact it probably isn't possible to be totally without error, in any real sense. What matters most is the core message; but even that is lost on a great many Christians, like in the way people interprete "sola fide".
That's not as simple as people would like it to be.

>>533103762
If you are christian, you need to accept that the 4 gospels are correct. If they aren’t , there is an unknowable criteria of distinction that casts a formless shadow over the entire religion, or there is no infallibility in the scripture, which kills the entire religion.

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>>533099010
As long as Pakistanis stay in Pakistan why would you care? Oh no some brown people converted to Christianity! Like that hasn't been the norm for 2000 years.

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>>533099114
>You don't want me to the up in hell?
>You must want to fuck me!
Don't flatter yourself

>>533097993
>denomination
Protestant memespeak to make their dumb jewish sects appear legitimate. Stop using this word.

>>533097993
MAGA immediately at work to protect the schizo who will change the target in 12 hours.

>>533098063
Not religious and not very redpilled on women either it seems.

>>533103652
>jesus was a pharisee
Maybe your jesus, but not my Jesus Christ
He Lived in galilee
>how is it He is learned
Was the question actual pharisees gossiped among their lips

>sociopolitical movement
Irrelevant given all that ive said thus far
You basically reply a non sequitor without acknowledging the very basis of what has been all said
So
Idk why you mention that now and get the facts wrong
>Jesus fell squarely in the traditionalist, anti roman camp
Wrong on both accounts because the latter is just a hostile bias
Jesus Was a Fundamentalist, not a traditionalist
So you cant define or accurately trace the differences, its pointless to debate words words words for the sake of being heard
Secondly, He would not Say turn the other cheek- EXCEPT for the implicit making the roman enforcer now liable for excessive punishment under roman law
Same for travelling two miles instead of one: turns the law against the man if they interrupt your gospel mission
Wise as serpent but gentle as dove carries weight with those spiritually discerning
If you dont have an actualized faith in Jesus Christ and are not born again, i cannot elaborate anymore, hopefully youre not larping

>>533098754
The pope is not Peter. He can claim to be the successor of Peter, and a bunch of people can claim that he is, but that does not in fact make him Peter or his equivalent. It's a nice story though, I'll give you that.
Also
>tf
You're a cucktholic for the noncery, right?

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>>533098063
I agree with this heavily.

>>533103762
The gospels and letters are the most prevalent and recurring copies of any writings from antiquity by like a factor of tens of thousands to the next best preserved documents from then and previous or more recent eras
Faithful copies mind you

>>533103939
I admit that also is an important point.
>there never was just one sect of "Christians" either
>and some of them were mass murdered by other Christians
Not a coincidence some branches have slightly different Bible canons.
That said, the way I understand it, is that people can be Jewish and Christian at the same time; and this is precisely what Jesus wanted.
>the convert jew is better than the gentile
By whatever measure. Don't have to stop following the old covenant to be a Christian, but you don't have to follow it either if you're not a jew.
It's entirely clear that His main goal was to make jews, cut dicks and all, follow him.
Dropping circumcision isn't exactly scriptural; just something Peter did to accomodate pagans, who liked their foreskins.

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>>533101769
All of these are Protestantism.
Christianity is actually very simple. There are two serious branches with valid apostolic succession (Catholic, Orthodox) and then there's Memetestantism.

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>>533097993
If you don't want the most up to date religion and are just looking for the most outdated version you might as well go for Judaism.

>>533103560
>So, you only want a religion that makes you feel good and tell that you are valid regardless of its relation to the truth?
No, I want ego death. Something akin to nirvana, I guess. Being conscious forever just doesn't sound appealing to me.

>>533099796
Traditional Sunni understanding relies on a lot of fanfiction-tier narratives to supplement the Quran. Shia goes and dials that fanfiction up to eleven. It's wild.

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>>533098466
Good morning, Saar.
To my knowledge, ancient Egyptianism or whatever to call that is the most ancient to my awareness. Something like 36,000 years ago, and they weren't up to some nigger shit back then.

Orthodox

>>533104390
Most orthodox outside of east europe are just disgruntled prots lets be real

can someone redpill me on papa leo

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>>533104503
I need to understand more about the differences between these two. My disgust of Jews and Pajeets has actually compelled me to learn about Islam.

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>>533099740
>it's extremely antisemitic
lol. LMAO even. Nothing says antisemitic like worshipping a jewish rabbi with a god complex who tried to create his own offshoot of temple judaism, exclusively hand picked his direct apostles from jewish bloodlines he formerly preached to as a rabbi, preached to jewish crowds, and spent his free time with jewish human traffickers, jewish prostitutes, and jewish criminals.
>muh kikes had him killed
Nonsense, the Romans killed him because they caught him in the company of naked children and human traffickers(the same pirates Caesar had a hateboner for.) along with a laundry list of other shit thry wanted him gone for. Jews just took credit because that's what they like to do, and it was convenient for them to get rid of a rabblerouser who was poaching followers from their own communities without having to make the effort to do the work themselves.

The Romans crucified him with the two known traffickers/pirates he was caught with, and the Romans stood their crosses up on either side of his. Even the fucking bible admits in it's own jewish way that this shit happened.

>>533104056
Fortunately this isn't true. What is necessary to be a Christian is to follow the commands of Jesus Christ as much as possible.
"I am the way" doesn't refer to worshipping him as God but to listen to his teachings (the way).
>nobody comes to the father except through me
Again a reference to his teachings - and which is obvious if you are literate.
The idea that plain ole "faith in Jesus" "saves" people is utterly ludicrous and fantastical. Not in line with Jesus' own teachings. He told you exactly what it takes.
>nah suddenly you only have to believe he's the Son of God and ur good buddy, trust
>le epic retcon

>>533098063
>I am not religious but priests should be allowed to marry
The reason why Priests were banned from marriage was to hold themselves to the same standards as the monks and nuns they held authority over. To be a monk, you have to take a vow of chastity, poverty, and obedience to the lord. In addition, since everyone is equal in the eyes of the Lord, priests were called out on this obvious double standard. And there were cases of them engaging in fornication as well.

>>533097993
Both are gay compared to the Tuatha Dé Danann

>>533104669
Did you hear about the disciple whom Jesus loved? I always found that part more strange than some naked kid. You have to consider clothes were crazy expensive in those days.
Also I've seen some naked kids run around, like on the beach, does this make me a human trafficker?
Considering they could decide what to include in the Bible and what to purge it's very unlikely it's some pedo reference.
>why would they do that to themselves?
But I admit it's kinda difficult to interprete what it was meant to be about.
>random encounter

>>533103990
>what matters most is the core message
In addition to a rebuke, what is impossible with man is POSSIBLE WITH GOD
There are these, Core Messages
And again
>very much improperly understood or ignored
Greatest and Least Commandment
Greatest is self defined inside the sams passage
The Least Commandment is however, not defined
>so what is it??
Kindness to mother bird and nest that falls out, basically to small animals and the helpless natural birb(s)

And then there's such famous examples as
>think not Ive come to do away with the Commandment
>not one Jot or Tittle
>woah, dreams of unclean animals, but i never ated of these, oh the dream means evangelize the gentile romans next door?? Ok, thanks God
>if you love Me (Jesus Christ), keep the Commandments
>these things*** (the entire passover seder and all of its depth and meaning and lessons and traditions), do in/keep in remembrance of Me(Jesus Christ)
>is Grace a license to sin? God Forbid

Many many examples

Jesus Christ Taught a Repentance to Him
Its Defined in the Law as how we transgress God, and how he who is guilty of one is guilty of all
Yet
There are Valid and Proper Definitions, again black and white thou shalt and thou shalt not, for what the sins and transgressions are; as much as Appointed Times for Feasts etc.
To do away with those things, teach in the name of, change the times and even Holy Days- these are all graven blasphemies that we hitherto inherit as watered down diminutative husks of what the Biblical Feasts for example are- or another example is the redundancy of keeping moral statutes i.e. lying is bad, adultery bad, killing and murder bad, but sabbath we changed, and passover is now communion or God Forbid a weekly eucharist abomination
>usury, usury everywhere
Suddenly a biblical prohibition is the means to the ends of controlling the money supply- and to add grief unto burden we extort each other
Nobody is a saint either here
But things were deliberately and concsiously changed

>>533097993
>denomination of Christiniaty
No such thing.
Protestants and Roman "Catholics" are not Christians.

I think Romans 2 sums it up.
>25For circumcision is indeed profitable if you keep the law; but if you are a breaker of the law, your circumcision has become uncircumcision.
>26Therefore, if an uncircumcised man keeps the righteous requirements of the law, will not his uncircumcision be counted as circumcision?
>27And will not the physically uncircumcised, if he fulfills the law, judge you who, even with your written code and circumcision, are a transgressor of the law?
>28For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh;
>29but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.

>>533104599
Quran is unironically a seminal book. Anyone, believer or not, that found inspiration in the Bible would be pleasantly surprised upon reading it. I am unable to speak as kindly about its modern adherents, however.

>>533097993
Its all the same jewish bullshit
Fuck off

>>533104373
>the convert jew is better
Not neccessarily the spoken word, but the sages and scribes who know each and every jot and tittle and wouldve been the types to know wherewithal what it was Jesus Christ Taught of Himself for 40 days after the Ressurection: those things hidden from the disciples until Directly Revealed those 40 days
And thats just Prophecy Pertaining to Messiah
Also there are many lessons and hidden layers of the bible, these types you alluded to have a greater grasp of all thats there to teach others etc.
Sometimes you have those gifts which are taught by a tradition and blossomed by the Spirit of God into works yielding great fruit
A former scribe/sage turned Christian would show the Messianic lesson for example on the jots and tittles
>what are those
>beyond vowel notations, they are an abundance of scribal notes to emphasize
Esau didnt kiss israel, it was a jot/tittle for the word kiss*, it was more a frustrating bite of hate- for his prey was unworthy and crippled in his eyes and thus his humility was albeit feigned when at last he did meet jacob ahead of the former company caravans

Thing im emphasizing overall is
If we love God, we should keep His Commandments
And one day, reqd ezekiel 20:33+, it will be for survival; just like it was for the children of israel 40 years in the wilderness

>>533104978
>Did you hear about the disciple whom Jesus loved? I always found that part more strange than some naked kid. You have to consider clothes were crazy expensive in those days.
I've heard of a lot of very questionable relationships within the bible, and other related texts, It's been a recurring problem for the entire history of christianity and its offshoots and sects.
>Also I've seen some naked kids run around, like on the beach, does this make me a human trafficker?
No, but in the case of jesus he was caught in the company of known child traffickers, and was physically holding the naked child when they were spotted. They're entirely different situations.
>Considering they could decide what to include in the Bible and what to purge it's very unlikely it's some pedo reference.
Jesus being caught with his hands on a naked child in the company of known child traffickers was the last straw on a laundry list of shit the Romans wanted Jesus dealt with for.

Even the jewish apostles who wrote their own accounts (that would eventually go into the bible) knew they couldn't really argue with Roman records while Pagan Rome still stood. That's why it got included/alluded to.

>>533105108
>tl;dr the jewish god is so loving and forgiving he made us in his image then made us transgress against him so we'd have to apologize to him and repent and owe it to him
The more I listen to christkikes the more repulsive and jewish all this nonsense gets.

>>533105346
Indeed, dont rely on keeping the Commandments and stumbling at but one offense- that wont save you in the day you break it
>he is a jew inwardly
>whos circumcision is of the heart
So in both hearing and obeying the Word of God, and without faith it is impossible to please Him, and we offer ourselves as living sacrifices to God
Morally speaking, thats not Grace giving a license to sin: its a higher standard as per the lust of eyes example above itt
Being showered in Grace and all things thereof, by much love and affection do we recieve it and to Life Abundantly, amen
To do all the things in the Law and Bless others, is good

>>533105108
You're right about that, but as a gentile you don't suddenly have to aspire to the Old Covenant; remember Jesus was talking to jews, and jews obviously are supposed to keep it. There is some merit to saying gentiles are not bound by it unless they so choose, and while it might make them more worthy in the eyes of God it's not necessary to be perfect by any means; his message was also meant to apply to gentiles, who obviously weren't circumcised.
It's a lot better to be a good Christian with a foreskin than a huge asshole without one, but if you keep literally ALL the rules, old and new: good, that's great.

>>533097993
None really. Pretty much none of the gosples was not corrupted. Matthew ends at 16:9 then some niggers added stuff Jesus never said

James Mason's brand of Christian Identity. I think it involves aliens or something?

>>533104669
>this meme
Disgusting reprobate
Dont subscribe to it
Bee learned and rightfully divide the Truth from a lie and the Holy from the profane
https://biblehub.com/mark/14-51.htm#lexicon

>>533105914
>as a gentile
Whos to know?

>>533104390
it's even simpler to separate
Catholics and orthodox believe in absolution by works and life is a test
everything else believes that absolution is by baptism and life is a waiting room

>>533105914
>we can adopt gentiles in
>but theyre not bound to morality!
No, also, when the disciples had this selfsame dispute among how to go about with this adoption they said
Acts 15:29
“That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.”

Thats no idolatry, one God, keep kosher, and leviticus tells you all there is to know about what sexual immorality is defined as
Aka
They tl;dr the Torah driectly, and people fail to realize this as intellectually dishonest and lazy readers, whlie grasling at straws elsewheres in Scripture and without proper context, misinterpret the fundamental message abroad AND in the passages even speaking about such things as these examples i gave earlier

This is more or less the pattern of the last 2000 years of historical grievances continually compounding decade over decade and century over century

>>533099670
Jews are the definition of mutts you North African Arab monkey
How delusional can you be
There is not a Jew in existence who is not a polish or arab or some other kind of mutt
Hitler was right
HITLER WAS RIGHT YOU MADE ME ANTISEMITIC YOU FUCKING KIKE

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