Why didn't Jesus save her?>inb4 he didIf that's your excuse why didn't he give her a brain aneurysm and killed her instantly instead of letting her be used by Mr. Epstein first? It's not looking good for your god Christsisters. If he's real he is the most evil being in existence.
>>533116456Why didn't you save her?
He saved her soul.
>>533116806Why didn't the omniscient omnipresent almighty god of the universe? I didn't know it was happening, and even if i did there wouldn't have been anything I could do about it. He not only knew it was happening but could have saved her effortlessly. He chose not to.
>>533116926Couldn't he have done that without letting her be used as a sex slave?
>>533116456Jesus said not to resist evil men but instead to give them your clothes and let them slap your cheeks. And that's what she did, apparently.
>>533117550So how is he good? What's good about letting an innocent person be raped and killed?
>>533116456>harmless joke is actually rape-codedAt this point, I could send you an electricity bill and you'd find a way to implicate me in an underground satanic cult because I misspelled your name.
>>533117550>*citation required
>>533117813Slit kike throat
>>533116456Shebwas martyr in Christ name. She has the kingdom of heaven and is with Christ at the right hand of father. These men will be judged. Luke 17:2 and Matthew 18:16
>>533117938>Jeffrey: Haha, this crazy girl literally thinks Jesus sleeps with her>Jeffrey's Friend: "Haha You should dress up as Jesus to fuck with herit's an atheist joke, dipshit.
>>533118385Soon. Get ready.
>>533118385Worthless shabbos goy mutt or kike? Is there a difference? Kill them all.
>>533117679The idea that God is All Good, All Powerful and All Knowing is self-contradictory because if He is All Good, then he lacks the functional ability (power) to do Evil, which means he is not all powerful. If he is All Knowing then free will doesn't exist and choosing Good over Evil is impossible and therefore meaningless. This above is all a later concept however, Jesus is based on the Platonic Ideal of God who is only All Good, so he lacks the ability to do "Evil" in any form (for example by punishing/harming evildoers, since that's a 'necessary evil' but still an evil.) The Platonic Ideal is that God is so good that "his rain falls on the just and the unjust," he is simply Omnibenevolent, even towards evil doers. Since "mercy to the guilty is cruelty towards the innocent," this view requires an afterlife where Justice is meted out on order to salvage the claim that God is also Just and not only Omnibenevolent
>>533118626However, even without an afterlife, if Evil is defined as actions which are ultimately self-defeating as well as destructive to others (for example, the Jewish Revolt against Rome), then you can argue that the structure of the universe is aligned against evil, because "evil" is self-defeating in the long run in addition to the damage it caused to others in the meantime. Good actions align with the structure of the universe and lead to beneficial outcomes in the long run while evil actions may be personally beneficial in the short run but lead to destruction in the long term. For example the actions of Epstein leading to a global backlash against the Israeli state. That's why "the wages of (evil) are death," because evil is self-defeating behavior viewed from a long term persoective
>>533116456>Ambiguity and paradox scare meNeed someone to hold your hand?
>>533118385first off, the predators drugged these girls, they were not crazy girls.secondly its extreme depravity and a desire to dominate someone absolutely. replace jesus with what keeps you sane, and have a predator dress up as it, maybe your own father or mother, or another deity.>>533119244yeah true, evil is voiding ones contract with humanity. like these people who do evil things are only safe, because nobody knows of the depth of their evilness. this is why israel is doomed, eventually people will discover the depth of their evilness. no matter how much they try gloat about it through random epstein emails. no other nation has an epstein email account haver, only israel, only jews.
>>533117392Humans did that with our own free will. >>533117679This life doesn't matter. All that does is whether you turn to God or not especially when you suffer. >>533118626>The idea that God is All Good, All Powerful and All Knowing is self-contradictory because if He is All Good, then he lacks the functional ability (power) to do Evil, which means he is not all powerful. >False. He is the source of all things. Good and evil are human terms. >If he is All Knowing then free will doesn't exist and choosing Good over Evil is impossible and therefore meaningless. >Also false. You can know everything and still allow others to choose their path. Just because you know the end point doesn't preclude that a person made their own choices to get to that end. A perfect example is you right now. You can choose to examine my words and perhaps turn to God or ignore them and continue to turn away. God knows which way you will turn but you are still choosing it. >This above is all a later concept however, Jesus is based on the Platonic Ideal of God who is only All Good, so he lacks the ability to do "Evil" in any form (for example by punishing/harming evildoers, since that's a 'necessary evil' but still an evil.) Since "mercy to the guilty is cruelty towards the innocent," this view requires an afterlife where Justice is meted out on order to salvage the claim that God is also Just and not only OmnibenevolentYou use labels you dont understand. No serious person calls God omnibenevolent. Jesus is the perfect example of how you should live your life as a man. He is not only "good" as He is God so He is all things. Again these are human terms and He us beyond our understanding. He is mercy and wrath. Truly the best way to look at it is that it is a binary system but its not Good and Evil. The binary you should ask yourself is am I operating within His will or outside His will. That's it. Everything that happens is His will.
>>533119244Evil exists and so does goodGod created everything therefore he is responsible for everythingSo God is good but not all good
>>533120083>Again these are human terms and He us beyond our understanding.Also this
>>533116456>It's not looking good for your god Christsisters. If he's real he is the most evil being in existence.So, is that why the Synagogue of SATAN was formed to talk shit about Him for 2000 years?
>>533118626>>533119244Parents who spank and ground or otherwise punish their children for misbehaving, usually still love their children.
>>533116456>you see those single set of footprints? that's when I picked you up and brought you to epstein, my child.
>>533116456We get it, you're jewish.
>>533120370In order for free will to exist, evil must exist and counterbalance good, and vice-versa.
>>533120504Because kikes are buttmad that they literally spun off judaism and made it for goyim, they were and still have been since its inception.
>>533117392>God doesn't control me but he can control other people if he wanted to...
>>533116456Maybe Jesus Christ was waiting on us to stop being such roll over pussies and start killing them all. Seriously you think Jesus Christ would ever forgive them?! Forgive Epstein?Kill yourself if you ever entertain such a demonic, evil infused, antichrist heresy thought. “For those who cause any of these little ones to stumble they are better off tying a heavy rock around their neck and jumping off into a bottomless cliff”.KILL THEM ALLKILL THEM ALLKILL THEM ALLAND GOD WILL BLESS THOSE WHO DOThis is why we need to go back and start Christian Death Squads.
>>533116456China, who is atheist by state law, is more prosperous and growing more powerful than any Christian nation. Maybe Christ is no longer with us? Who's to say.
>>533116456>Why didn't Jesus save her?Because he was crucified and is now dead. I mean, how could he save her if he couldn't even save himself?
>>533116456He did save her, with eternal life. Cope, Jew. You cannot destroy the heart, only corrupt the mind and body.
>>533117392God relies on us to do the will of Good people. We are failing that test day by day by day. We know who they are. We know what they're doing. We do nothing. I too am failing in this regard. No need to point it out. I wrestle with what needs to be done every day I am still idle. I am currently comfortable. Who cares if some poor girl is being raped every day? Who cares if they'll use her organs and blood to lengthen their lifespan? Who cares if they'll just sntach another kid out form under the drug glazed eyes of their parents?I care. And each day I find less and less excuses for my inaction, when in reality there is no excuse. I am ashamed. I love God. I pray to Him in the name of Jesus Christ who is King. The only miracles that will happen will be through those who enact His will on earth. My life to save those whose last sight is the ugliest mask of humanity.
>>533120434If that's the case and nothing he does can be understood, how do you know what you're being told in the Bible is what you're supposed to do?
>>533120083>False. He is the source of all things. Good and evil are human terms. Then saying "God is Good" is meaningless, or simply untrue if he is also the source of all evil. The New and Old Testaments have different views on this and Church apologetics have become logically nonsensical due to their refusal to admit this
>>533120083>Humans did that with our own free will.That's not a response to what OP asked. He didn't ask why the state of affairs is the way it is, he asked a logical question that addresses the morality of humanity's dark situation. What people are challenging you Christcucks on with questions like this are the ethics of a being with the power to stop evil watching horrible things happen to its followers all for the sake of some principle of "free will." Almost everyone would be happy to sacrifice some free will for that young women not to be raped and abused like that. The other issue with this free will meme is that it renders all prayer and communication/interaction with God moot. God allows evil to reign free because of free will, ergo that means no one should bother praying to him since he doesn't respond because of free will. God can't answer any prayers or give guidance because that would violate free will. Yet Christians insist God works through prayer and miracles, which contradicts this. You guys just don't have a good response to this philosophical conundrum, that's why you never answer it when directly asked.
>>533121927>God relieslmao
>>533120864An all-knowing parent would be able to trick or convince their children into behaving correctly though, since that's one of the things they know how to do
>>533117364>18 year old wants to discuss morality of god for the millionth time againRead a book and Kys
>>533117679Where do you draw the line of interference? How badly hurt does someone have to be in order to Jesus to step in, in your opinion.Ultimately your line of reasoning ends up being "if God is good why do bad things happen".
>>533116456He did Epstein was now in hell after he lived his usefulness
>>533117392It was Epstein’s fault that happened. Not Jesus’s.
>>533120370That is the Jewish/Old Testament view of things, yes. That's also why Masons have their black and white checkerboard, because they believe since God creates both Good and Evil, they must also do likewise to follow God's example, by sometimes creating Evil. The New Testament/Platonic view was that "God is only light and in him there is no darkness at all," that God is only good and has no *power* to do evil. For example, Jesus came to destroy "him who has the *power* of death," (Hebrews 2:14), meaning God does not have the *power* of death (it being an evil power), but Satan does.
>>533118626He’s capable of doing evil, but he chooses not to, because he’s good. We still have free will, he just already knows what we’re going to choose. It’s still entirely our choice.
>>533125452>We still have free willNot really. Believing in an omnipotent being who's will exceeds yours isn't free will. You're as "free" as a prisoner in a cell.
>>533116456Because of free will and original sin. Man chose to do the wrong thing, and for the most part, god has been hands-off. The only time god has actively intervened was to bring about salvation for us through Christ. No one talks to god, no one sees god, and I'm not even sure if god can make prayers come true. And the reason why is because none of this world matters. What matters is his word and his will. Ask not what God can do for you, ask God what you can do for him.
>>533116456>Why didn't Jesus save her?Matthew 15:24>"I was sent only for the lost sheep of Israel."There's your answer.
>>533125452That's functionally the same thing though. If a beagle refuses to bite people because it's personality is incapable of aggression, then it's not able to bite people due to its disposition (it consistently "chooses not to"), regardless of whether it's jaws functionally could bite people. The beagle lacks the ability to bite people because it's personality/disposition makes it functionally unable to do so
>>533125860"This guy is smarter than me. Therefore, I am retarded."= "This guy has more agency than me. Therefore, I have no agency".
>>533126297>This guyHappens to be an omnipotent God whos will always supercedes yours The only agency you have is the one God allows you to have
Whenever people talk about why didn't god do X or Y or Z, all i can think of is the inability for people to comprehend the "How would you feel if you didn't have breakfast this morning?"Its a seemingly easy thing to comprehend, yet you realize there are billions of people who lack the intelligence to comprehend the idea, and implications of free will.
>>533126721>people who lack the intelligence to comprehend the idea, and implications of free willRight? It's an illusion with or without God
>>533126896Thats under the assumption god even pays attention to this reality. If we truly have free will, would he even pay attention to what we're doing? Probably not, anyone whos had an ant farm can comprehend coming back after days and days of not looking at it to see what they've accomplished.If Einstein is right, and he is by the way, time and space are relative, if there is a god who exists outside the bounds of how you and I understand reality, why do we inherently assume he still perceives things the way we do?
>>533123193>hypocritical christchuck sperging out with godly “love”The most hypocritical religion of all: making the biggest claims about loving even their enemy, yet having not a drop of even basic decency in a debate.Why are you so effeminate?
>>533126241No, the Beagle could and can bite people if it wanted to.
>>533127234Man chose free will. Now, you have the choice to kill yourself and exhibit your free will, please consider it
>>533127234Don't make this argument against actual Christians because its a bad argument. Your beliefs and perceptions are not other peoples beliefs and perceptions. There are hundreds of millions of Christians who believe that Christ is a figure who's beliefs you should strive for, not embody, because no mortal man can embody them.But you lack the comprehension to understand this. Agree with it or not, it doesn't matter, its how most of those people view it.Thats actually a major point of the religion but you seemingly don't get it.
>>533125860Think of it like if you watch someone make a choice and then afterward, since it’s already happened, you know what choice they made. It was still totally their choice. It’s the same for God but he can see the future as clearly as we can see the past. He didn’t make the choice, he jus observed what it was.
>>533117679>So how is he good?the abrahamic “god” is a deranged demon: genociding the whole nations including little babies just to make way for his Epstein people. Good thing the demon is not omnipotent, as evidenced from his own book.
>>533116456cuz hes a kike.there is no excuse for him allowing the fallen to do this.
Nobody can say, “if God was really X he would do Y.” Because you’re not God and you aren’t really X so you don’t actually know whether or not a God that was X would do Y. No one but God can know what God would do so whatever he does is correct.
>>533127140>Thats under the assumption god even pays attention to this realityAgain, with or without God.>if there is a god who exists outside the bounds of how you and I understand reality, why do we inherently assume he still perceives things the way we do?At this point it's irrelevant due to cause and effect/affect
>>533127365> another seething christcuck saying satanic things out of his butthurtBut your kosher religion says you are condemned to eternal suffering if you do. Yahweh doesn’t let you off the hook so easy.Also, not very godly of you to push other people to commit the gravest sin. What did jesu say about tempting others is worse that jumping off the cliff into the sea? Something something…>>533127408I judge the tree by its fruit, as jesus commanded actually. And the fruit is hella rotten.
>>533127471>Think of it like if you watch someone make a choice and then afterward, since it’s already happened, you know what choice they madeExcept I'm not an omnipotent God who created them with the foreknowledge of what they will do before they do it. And if they don't pick the right choice, I punish them
>>533116456The jews used an eruv so God couldn't see what was happening.
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>>533117364>why do bad things happen on Earth, I thought Earth was supposed to be like Heaven where no bad things ever happenWere you dropped on your head as a baby, or were you deliberately thrown?
>>533127824>I judge the tree by its fruit, as jesus commanded actually.No you just make up whatever you think or believe on the fly, that was evident by you chastising. someone for arguing in bad faith while all you do is insult people, make poor assumptions that fit your view, and try to bait people.
>>533128026Why would a good god create a place where bad things happen? Holy fuck you people are dumb.
>>533127824>doesn't address the actual point of the postyou are retarded
>>533116456Trump is Jesus dummy
>>533120370Evil is just the absence of Godliness though.>>533128082Your question has been answered millions of times for thousands of years, so if you're still confused, you are the dumb one. Lazy.
>>533127408>Thats actually a major point of the religion but you seemingly don't get it.
>>533116456There is no logic to your argumentation at all. It's full of non sequiturs, utter drivel in fact. If you're real you're the most evil being in existence. See? That makes at least as much sense as your fallacious rageboy rhetoric.
>>533128498Generally you should at least understand the concepts you argue against yes. If you think thats a ridiculous statement well thats says more about you than anything.
>>533116456She said the nword once in her life. That's a BIG nono in the American Judeo-Christian faith. God bless Israel
>>533128090> muh free willMy free will is to not share the same planet with low IQ boycattle like you, and yet here we are. Your free will argument is BS in the presence of your god-demon’s threats that if one doesn’t fellate his circumcised dick, he is still condemned to eternal suffering. There is no option to not participate in this gay circus, which what the true free will would be. If such option existed, 99.99% would bail and yahweh would be like a spoiled bratty kid alone in his sandbox because nobody likes him, with no puppets to play with.Also, post hand, pajeetstian.>>533128064I didn’t bait anyone. You are just genuinely horrible people—the apex hypocrites. You are like women: you say one thing, but you do another thing, and when confronted, you make a scene like the canadian flag retard.
>>533128203Better version
>>533116806because the christian god didn't get me either the information needed to know it was an issue and where she was as well as were the enemy was so I could kill them. Of course that assumes I had the power to do it.As a 'normal' person that is within range of killing the enemy, and saving that little girl, they don't have the power or will to save her because of that weakness. Thus your god also has to either help facilitate helping me move to the area they are, or to uplift the locals with the power necessary to eliminate such evil. The child rapist loving christian god didn't do that either.If that god had the power to do any of that, it is also guilty of the crimes against her. If the god didn't have the power to even tell the right people what needs to happen against who and went, its not a god, its a fucking pathetic joke. No excuses.
>>533129062Keep not addressing your own logical failures and insulting people, it really does continue to prove your point. Sorry your parents made you go to church and now you're ass pained about it.
>>533128275>Your question has been answered millions of times for thousands of yearsIt has been coped about by thousands of years but it has never been answered, without first conceding that god isn't good.
>>533128275>Your question has been answered millions of times for thousands of years, so if you're still confused, you are the dumb one. Lazy.What this anon us saying is that they don't have a good answer either and instead calls the asker lazy and confused.
>>533116926people whose souls are saved wouldnt have been prostituting themselves to jewish pedophiles. that is probably the most opposite of a soul worth saving.
