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"The Jews" that run much of the world are just the Jewish mafia.
"The British" that ran opium to China and took over the US intelligence operations was British mafia.
"The Russians" that get up to hi-jinks are just the Russian mafia.
"The Vatican" or "The Jesuits" are just the Italian mafia.
"The Sicilians" are a separate Italian mafia although likely connected in some way.

Now, some states are fronts for mafia (the Israeli mafia and the Israeli state seem almost 1:1), but some mafia operates underneath the state and only get involved with politics occasionally.

I think there are a few reasons this is true.

1. If you are part of the same family, then you're already the same ethnicity. Mafias are structured like extended families.
2. Even if you are not part of the same family, being the same ethnicity probably helps with loyalty. This would be especially true if you tried to set up a franchise in a foreign country. You'd want your guys there with you on the inside.
3. The old warrior aristocracy style of government with monarchs in charge is just organized crime with extra steps. So, the nobles seem classy on the surface, but their entire m.o. is crime and getting away with it (easier to do when you are the law itself).
4. Let's say you're an uber rich billionaire, but all you have is invested assets and you don't want to commit crime. Guess what? Someone is eventually going to come after you, and they will use state assets even if they have to. You won't last. Only criminal organizations last.

Historically, criminal outfits were organized by initiation rites in mystery schools with many grades for the sake of compartmentalized information. These were ostensibly "priests" (aka bullshit artists who knew everything about their community and demanded tributes). Funny how we don't call "priests" out on their bullshit still today. Oh and what else? These priesthoods also dealt drugs, which is another mark of organized crime still today.
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>>533152813
PS - I read that the Jewish mafia is simply called "Mishpacha", "Mishpucha", or "Mishpukah", which basically just means family in Hebrew. They avoid having a more descriptive name so that they cannot be named by others. This is also common with organized crime. I only point out these Hebrew names so that you can be more specific in your claims.
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>>533152813
Masonic checker board
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>>533152813
I offer a fist shake against the clouds in solidarity
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>>533152813
What exactly do you mean by "organized crime"?
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I inducted to this thing you're trying to grab at but got spooked the fuck out when I was asked to kindly produce blackmail on myself what the fuck is wrong with you people I'm getting out of here.

They're nice enough to respect that though. You will be asked to do tasks related to causing 10 million man genocides while also drifting with people like Jordan Peterson, who insist that genocides are always wrong.

It's a polyergus farming a formica. All of the Churches and all of the Synagouges are plugged into this thing because this thing is deeply interetsted in the shabisformica becoming maximally useful by the time they are selected for and groomed.

I have to kick myself for not taking a stress pill and just going through with it. I'd be one of your motherfucking Gods right now. Issuing you people into and out of existence as if you were some kind of energetic fluid to turn the cranks of babylon like fueling up a D8R with 2000 gallons of diesel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PZ0MOO8wk8

It's not so bad, aren't your grocery stores, gas stations and work houses for the most part full? Are you being bled dry by a foreign power for wicking away buying power? At least you can boast you're on the side that gonna drop a nuke, instead of the one getting nuked.
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sounds about right.
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>>533153122
The difference between conspiracy and organized crime is that conspiracy is an isolated event, whereas in organized crime, it is the main mode of business. Everything is conspiring and using muscle when possible and effective. Everything is coercion. Furthermore, everything is mystery, everything is hidden.

We could also use our understanding of organized crime to hypothesize the structure of the higher up groups. There's usually one ultimate shotcaller per family, and this privilege may get passed down from father to son, but in the case of a serious organized crime outfit, I think we'd be talking about a council of elders who elect one leader to run the outfit. This seems quite close to how many ancient states were ran, such as Venice, Sparta, or Rome. There's probably truth somewhere in the middle, where the global crime syndicates are partly inheritable and partly shared amongst a small group of elite houses. It can't be fully inheritable as that is too unstable, and it can't fully elected as the current leaders probably would use their leverage to try to keep the title in the family.

Organized crime often starts with no legitimate business. It's just crime. Then, they need money laundering operations. What is a better money laundering operation than a bank? Who runs banks? Chew on that for a minute...
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>>533152953
Lodges... what a great way to have a criminal franchise in every city, state, and nation. What a way to be able to call on a group of talented people for assistance whenever you need it, without needing to flash more than a sign or handshake.

John Wick seems like one of the better explanations, as cartoony as it is.
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>>533154061
Churches and synagogues all over the world... are they doing exactly the same thing?
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>>533153737
Calling it crime diminishes it to moral grandstanding. It's called power. They sought it, they organized, they acquire it, and now they seek more of it. If only Whites freed themselves of these abstract spells and took all that power for themselves and themselves alone.
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>>533153737
>money laundering
A little more on this... the goal of money laundering is to lose money in your legitimate business so you can clean the money faster and avoid taxes.

Now, imagine you were so successful as an organization that you became the leaders of your economy. That would mean that the leader of the economy functions by losing money. This spreads like a cancer because it continues to be very profitable for the criminal organization (due to black market wealth), but it plagues their area with unprofitable enterprise.

Now, look at the modern economy, what do you see? Unprofitable enterprise somehow dominates industries. How and why?

To say it is a "ponzi scheme" misses the point. They don't need to make money from investors, and in some cases, forcing the investors to lose money might be the point too.
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>>533154662
Whites do plenty of crime. You're just not in the club.

You're just under the delusion that the mafias care about the broader nation that they're associated with. In many cases, they do not. That means they don't care about you regardless of your skin color. That also means your black neighbor is on your side more than the white mob boss.
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>>533154832
Whites don't have their own club. As proven by the fact that they don't care about their nations.

>You're just under the delusion that the mafias care about the broader nation that they're associated with. In many cases,
Non-Whites do, especially Jews, makes no difference that they embed themselves within Whites as their nations, they work towards their own tribal supremacy and actively look out for their own.

>That also means your black neighbor is on your side more than the white mob boss.
>if my fellow white isn't my friend then my non-white neighbour must be by friend
No. That's a typical peasant belief.
Traitors aren't your friends and your enemies aren't your friends.
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>>533155087
>Whites don't have their own club. As proven by the fact that they don't care about their nations.
That logic doesn't compute. As I just said, many criminal outfits (most?) don't give a fuck about the nations they are in.

>Non-Whites do, especially Jews, makes no difference that they embed themselves within Whites as their nations, they work towards their own tribal supremacy and actively look out for their own.
Jew and White are not in the same category. Jew is closer to cult status, whereas white is a skin color that could refer to 500M+ people. If you are Jew, then you have a lot more than a shared skin color.
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>>533155087
Believe it or not, but "nation" is a stronger unifying principle than race. Jews promoted the Nazi thing to get you to give up your country. Stew on that for a bit.
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>>533155319
>That logic doesn't compute.
It does. For instance, you've presumed the Vatican is basically the Italian mafia, but it is not.
And there is no Anglo / northwestern European mafia, they're merely subjects of Jewry today.

>whereas white is a skin color that could refer to 500M+ people.
White is a general and colloquial identifier for that which is European.
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>>533156167
Nation and race are the exact same thing. Anyone who separates the two is either ignorant or disingenuous.


Nation. Natal. Innate. These words all share the same etymology that refers to people of a common birth/race. All of which etymologically source from the Proto-Indo-European word 'gene'.

The innate characteristics of an “ethnos” and/or nation were first defined by Herodotus (484-425 BC) as biological kinship, language, shared culture and customs:
ὁμόαιμον, homόaimon, “of the same blood”.
ὁμόγλωσσον, homoglōsson, “speaking the same language”.
ὁμότροπον, homόtropon, “of the same habits”.

All these lineages are emergent properties taht result from a recursive process that is based on the same gene-pool, which results in a distinct phenotype/race and culture.

Nation means "our race".

A nation/ethnos/race is explicitly a biologically related group of people who speak the same language, share most habits, and often (but not always) inhabit the same territory.

A nation is not a state nor a country. A state is a collective governing body, while a country is the territory controlled by the state.

A nation-state is a state (and country) that is governance apparatus controlled (and occupied) exclusively by one nation.

Every Hellenic state was a nation-state in the manner that only Hellenics were allowed to be citizens and locals. Athenians in Athens, Macedonians in Macedonia, Spartans in Sparta etc.

The race and nation-state co-evolved as phenomena, concepts, ideas, and socio-genetic realities.
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I rather call.it an oligarchy. Venetian Oligarchy now known as British Empire
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>>533152813
How do you deal with secret societies while preserving freedom of association and privacy? Education?
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>>533156507
The nation is arbitrary. Some richfag who owned your ancestors fought another richfag who owned your neighbors' ancestors and then they drew a map and made flags and pretended they were different. Race is innate.
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>>533152813
wow you dont say
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>>533154738
You don't need to be profitable if you have a monopoly on force and can hold a gun to people's heads and demand trillions of dollars
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>>533156648
You don't. Either you get rid of muh privacy and free association or you get destroyed by those who are willing to exploit it for their own gain. Same reason that you can't have freedom of speech and religion forever, it's all fun and games until a Jewish mafia runs your government despite the "separation of church and state".
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>>533156648
The authoritarians do it better but you can have strong treason/sedition laws and glowie infiltrators
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>>533156678
Nations are a European thing, they have never innately sprung up amongst non-Europeans who are purely tribal.
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>>533152813
>it's not just the jews goy
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>>533156448
>White is a general and colloquial identifier for that which is European.
There were many tribes in Europe, and they all fought each other. That doesn't sound like one nation.

>>533156507
>Nation and race are the exact same thing. Anyone who separates the two is either ignorant or disingenuous.
Doesn't work when people have been moving across state lines and mixing for hundreds of years. If you were in tribal Europe and you called your tribe a nation, then it would be valid.

>>533156800
You can't use force forever if the bottomline doesn't matchup. There would be desertion in the ranks.

>>533156648
The state is a secret society for the masses. A church, in theory, would be the same thing. So, if you want to combat secret societies, you need to do their same thing but better. It also doesn't make sense to handicap plebs in this game.

>Education
is a meme.
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>>533156926
Maybe the Jews are just better at it or have been doing it for longer.

I think it's far more interesting to look at elite Jews as a criminal organization than some retarded christcuck race fantasy which has no bearing in reality.
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>>533156890
It takes a special kind of autism to believe in some random map boundary drawn hundreds of years ago by people you don't know
Why aren't there Holy Roman Empire nationalists still? Everything can change overnight
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>>533156935
>There were many tribes in Europe, and they all fought each other. That doesn't sound like one nation.
And yet they became nations.

>Doesn't work when people have been moving across state lines and mixing for hundreds of years. If you were in tribal Europe and you called your tribe a nation, then it would be valid.
It does work since Europeans are their own species and thus racially compatible. You could demarcate the level of compatibility between Western Euros and Slavs, but that doesn't negate it.
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>>533152813

Washington Post - Oxford Parents Prosecution: https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/interactive/2024/michigan-prosecutors-crumbley-parents-oxford-school-shooting/

Department of Justice - Epstein File EFTA00973014: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00973014.pdf

Department of Justice - Epstein File EFTA02443018: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2011/EFTA02443018.pdf

Michigan Bar Journal - Janet Welch Profile (Feb 2022): https://www.michbar.org/journal/Details/Saying-goodbye-to-Janet-Welch-After-15-years-state-bars-executive-director-retires?ArticleID=4327

>“Subject: Fwd: Fw: Perils of a Catholic Upbringing... An Excellent Credit Score is 750.”
—EFTA02443018 (Sent From Redacted).

>“Drumhiller was wearing a black sweatshirt... [with a] black Alfani purse strap around her neck. A pair of black jeans was nearby on an armchair.”
—Forensic Summary, Megan Drumhiller (Catholic school NFL dancer at age 15) Case (Jan. 28, 2022).

>“She stands 5 feet, 5 inches tall and might not always wear black, but there isn’t much evidence to the contrary. ... My dad did not care what anyone else thought... He had his man bag. He was an early feminist.”
—Marjory Raymer, Saying goodbye to Janet Welch, 101 Mich. B.J. 2 (Feb. 2022).

>“Like a ninja or a slithering criminal with a black bag full of gear, I stole away to my chilly hideout in the dim hours of daybreak. Wrapped in black woolen layers from head to toe... our guru /coach will son begin to encourage us to 'murder these girls'...”
—Jeffrey Epstein to Anthony Barrett, EFTA00973014 (Oct. 11, 2013).

>“There was 14-year-old Hana St. Juliana’s black backpack, stained with blood and stuffed with... a biology notebook pocked with a bullet hole.”
—John Woodrow Cox, Oxford High School Crumbley Prosecution Coverage, The Washington Post (July 8, 2024).

More context and full story soon.
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>>533156935
As long as it costs more to rebel they won't. And it costs a lot to rebel, especially in places where people have no rights, so you can get away with a lot.
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>>533156448
>you've presumed the Vatican is basically the Italian mafia,
No, the Vatican is in Italy and therefore Italian. The "Italian mafia" you are naming is the Sicilian mafia. Sicily is also part of Italy but not the main part.

You need to be unaware of the Black Nobility (which was like the WEF 800 years ago), the Crusades, the Knights Templar — the Vatican's bankers, the Rothschilds also being known as "god's bankers" for handling the affairs of the Vatican, and probably some other examples I'm forgetting. The Vatican chose the kings in Europe for hundreds of years. Think they are squeaky clean?

Also, the Jesuits are a key part of this. America's founders said explicitly that Jesuits had infiltrated the masonic lodges. Lincoln blamed everything on the Jesuits, and he was shot by a B'nai B'rith member! Makes you think.
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>>533157250
>need
*seem
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>>533157250

Art Museums are the Epstein EDGE Globalist Billionaire lodges.
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>>533157065
Just because you're incapable of recognizing it doesn't mean it does not exist. And nations are obviously not static, even though you equated an empire comprised of multiple nations as a nation.
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>>533157688
I bet they have some interesting initiation rites.
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>>533157250
>the Vatican is in Italy and therefore Italian.
Just like how the Bank of England is in England and therefore English even though it's Jewish?

The Vatican is one of many network powers, and it doesn't have that much power today.
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>>533157688
Tribalism is based and the idea of a nation is cucked. Now every nation has nogs and forces you to treat them like they're your tribe.
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>>533152813
>Theory: all elites are part of an organized crime outfit
This is correct. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUDdOR618xE
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>>533157927

Except for being the major mover of cocaine out of South America, but sure, keep gaslighting.
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>>533152813
the mafias intended as crime cartels are the secret police of this cabal, they're not the entire entity
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>>533158300
The secret police are usually about as high up as you get in any organization. Their heads are typically the executive of the whole organization, right? Or at least, the ones that the heads of the secret police report to.
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yes
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>>533152813
Theory: the intel agencies hire and work with organized crime then either frame and arrest them or kill them at the end.
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>>533158854
It's a valid point. Who is inside who's organization: intelligence agencies vs corporations vs criminal organizations? They all have some leverage on each other, right?

So, imagine a unification of these orgs at the top. It's not that intelligence agencies are against organized crime. It's that organized crime in intelligence agancies is against competing organized crime outfits. It's not that the CIA has a hand inside of the corporate world. It's that they run the most profitable business in the world (some estimates of trillions of black market money that the CIA has stashed in accounts around the world).
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>>533158451
it's like a civil administration or a company, there are ministries , departments , branches call them what you want, the actual mobs are tasked with certain operations , mainly involving violence.
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They're not high ranking if that's what you mean, although their top levels can communicate with other higher ups, although always through filters and in betweeners, let's say they can't have direct access to politicians , bankers etc.
Another aspect which is overlooked is different crime cartels around the world making business together can act as a parallel, discreet diplomacy.
I'll make you an example of trading favors in our recent history , there was a guy (peppino impastato) which would broadcast on a 'pirate' FM radio in the 70s about the heroine refineries around palermo, he would name names (which he knew since he came from an affiliated family himself) so you broadcast on the radio what's going on so police, magistrates and politicians can't turn their heads somewhere else, well he was found 'suicided' the SAME DAY our prime minister was found dead after being kidnapped by the red brigades ... what are the odds? Ofc the news were all about the PM. That's just an example.
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>>533159557
Foe anyone interested there was an 80s TV show called 'la piovra' (the octopus) I belive it was dubbed also in english, surprisingly it told a lot of things that shouldn't have.
https://youtu.be/Fe3Trhd43Qw
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>>533159981
I don't think the Italian mafia is an independent outfit, more of a proxy. Aftger the US invaded during WW2, they re-installed the local mafia in tandem with masonry and communist groups.
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Underage b& discovers that the State has the monopoly on violence & calls it muh mafia

kek
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>>533160617
Yes, but two points to consider: this country was literally created by secret societies (carbonari, mazzini) which is just in history books , the second is mafia and commies don't mix, although in the 70s they met in jails and had some kind of trading (weapons storage, ammo exchanges etc) but their goals were and are incompatible.
Another fascinating story is instead the opium/heroine trade, at first it were the french marseillese clans (french connection) due to the fact they had colonies in SEA, which later thay had to leave while the Americans took their place (vietnam) so now the clans became the sicilians, (pizza connection) which is related to the story I posted above, finance was also involved (sindona, calvi) the cold war era was wild in this regard.
In the various installments of the godfather , included act 3, there are hints of all this.
The character Lucchesi was a ckear reference to Licio Gelli, a famous freemason
https://youtu.be/D4myPQ_LoBk
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