>On the whole, rather than being a misogynist, I simply think, in the old-fashioned way, that "women are not to be taken seriously." Women are inferior, and I have rarely met a woman who is not foolish (this naturally includes clever fools). In truth, further, I am afraid of women, but what I fear most in men also is the foolish man. Indeed, there is nothing so fearful as a fool. As a note, because there are also foolish PhDs and many intelligent people who have received no education at all, I am not taking educational attainment into issue at all.>Having spoken thus, there will surely appear women who will twist my words and take pity on me as an unfortunate man who has never met a truly intelligent woman. They may assert as much. However, such women, that is, women who live constantly in the illusion that they are individual exceptions to the rule, are in fact representative of foolish women.>In music and architecture nothing decent has come of women's hands, and they always sully transparent abstract structures with a sticky sensibility. An absence of organizational ability, an excess of sensibility, trivialism, a meaningless specificity, and a low-grade realism - these are all womanly flaws, and in the arts a womanly style is unproblematically "bad" style.>In fact, the degradation of art stems entirely from the advancement of women in society. When women complain about something, male artists with no backbone have always compromised and submitted to them. That feminist France delayed granting women the franchise for so long is because France knew what art is.https://wiki.chadnet.org/discourse-on-misogynyWas he telling the truth?
>>533163105He was literally a faggot.
>>533163105He is correct. Women are preoccupied with the domestic realm and lack perspective on bigger questions, so they cannot grapple with transcendent art or philosophy. This is also why they are terrible at humor.
Yes this is the ideal tech. It allows you to respect women without trying to force them into leadership positions or expecting them to carry relationships.
>>533163105Fag.
I wish it weren't true
>>533163105A guy like Mishima can say all that and then shsrt on some guy's dick.I don't hate gays, I just don't take them fully seriously.
>women are foolsWait until you find out about men.
Hero. Come here boy. No woman priz, okay?
>>533163105All you have to do is show art made by women and everyone can judge
>>533164015Kate Bush, Emily Bronte, George Eliot, Le Brun...take a hike, Italo homo
>>533164170All trash
>>533163188>He was literally a faggot.
He's a gay jap. Japanese people are a divinely different species so even if he is correct any Japanese females, I will need to hear it from a white man instead
>>533163577Same, I don't hate aussies, I just don't take them fully seriously.
Was Mishima really gay?The guy in the pic is said to be a Japanese actor whom he repeatedly pursued at the time.As you can see, he has a rather feminine appearance.That would suggest that Mishima was attracted to femininity.If he had really been faggot, he should have preferred more masculine men.
>>533166027Mishima was more gay than not, but he also had flings with women, including Western ones. He had a one night stand with Edna O'Brien, whom he met at a PEN conference, I think. He almost married the now Empress Emerita Michiko. And the girl he wifed up wasn't bad looking either.
>>533163188doesn’t make him wrong
Some of the smartest people I've ever met have been women. Out of all the women and men I've known, many of the women are successful and many of the men are dead.
>>533166481Smart in what respect? I don't think you mean creative or insightful or capable of uniquely critical thought. Woman can absolutely be smart historians or mathematicians tho
>>533163188where'd you get this retcon nonsense? Your gay fantasies? Fpwp as always.
>>533166729He literally forced himself to have sex with his beard and fucking hated it but did it so he could have Japanese babies. He was a nationalist to his core but that nigga HAAATED pussy.
>>533163105Why would anyone be afraid of women?
>>533166481>Some of the smartest people I've ever met have been women.lol you must be black then.
>>533166481All the women ive worked with have been cartoon villains.
>>533166336>had a wife and kids>had flings with women>talks about women as inferior, but that one ought to tolerate them for the health of civilization.>prioritized martial and physical mastery for combat purposes>correctly identified the unity between divine actualization and the killing blow of evil.>actually tried to coup, unlike you larping faggots, came relatively close to succeeding.>killed himself ritualistically in defeat.yes, when I think of faggots, these are the exact common markers. Can you coom-brained homosexuals do anything other than retconning everything as gay? Even amongst gay hobbies, it's pretty gay,.If you're interested in actually learning about Mishima (it can only improve your life), here's the audiobook for Sun and Steel:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gd7Trt0jWyATL;DW: Man can only achieve connection with the divine in the exact moment when you destroy evil, beforehand you are preparing, afterwards you retire into purposeless matter. This includes the evil within yourself.
>>533163188In the worlds of literature and philosophy, gayness is rather seen as a status symbol.If I remember correctly, Plato was also homosexual.And looking at how disproportionately many CEOs of the world’s top companies are gay, it is hard to believe that the correlation between being gay and having a high IQ is entirely unrelated.
>>533166729He wrote books about being a fag, meng. But I don't really care, Patriotism is one of the best stories ever written.
>>533167348Found the faggot who literally eats jizz
>>533167437It has already been proven that on average openly gay people are higher IQ than the average of heteros. Being high IQ makes you rise above normies and you understand the stupidity of all those man made moral constructs. Their sensitivity too. That's why homosexuality between men is so common between the elites.
>>533166863>no proof other than your brown canadian homosex fantasieshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHED1utNrp8>"Of course I married her because I was attracted to her, needless to say"Direct quote from the man himself. He's got dozens of interviews like this where he professes love for his wife in his own way, and his wife has verified it from her perspective too in her interviews. The problem is you're used to men fawning over women because you've been brain rotted by matriarchy. >criticizing women in any shape or form means you're gaypicrel dumbassNote how you will never post primary sources, you will never validate any of your claims, you will never address the substance of anything I've said, and you will never engage with the actual message he tried to communicate to you. If you continue like this, you are the evil that good men will compete to slay.Anyway, this is all largely a waste of time, because no matter how many times you're dunked on, you will always reframe everything as you winning.
>>533167348>audiobookYour fat, faggoty ass can't even read. Meanwhile, I not only have read the book repeatedly, I also own an English language first edition of it.
>>533167896Cool now post the long faggoty diary entry he wrote about his first time jacking off to St Sebastian getting tied up to a tree and him getting extremely angry after finding out Joan of Arc was a woman because he was extremely gay for him. Yes he married a women and maybe he's even bisexual or whatever but he's definitely for sure not straight unless you're saying you have those same gay thoughts and larp as straight. He 100% had a stronger preference for men sexually than he did for women.
>>533165761>Canadian goes into bat for nip pooftersEvery time
>>533167489Gross.I eternally denounce the Talmud and all Jewish holy works and scriptures, this proclamation is spiritually binding, permanent, and cannot be repented or undone for the remainder of my life. I welcome any divine retribution, including eternal hellfire, even in the case where I am wrong.now you go kike.Mishima is the answer to Rockwell's critique of American conservatism.
>254 pages>254 pages to admit he was the #1 Guro Fujoshiwhy do you guys like him so much lol
>>533167348His coup was nowhere near close to succeeding you retard. The military laughed at him and bullied him so hard that he committed suicide
>>533166027his first orgasm was to this painting, bro
>>533164170All trash seconded. If that's the best you can think of it is truly a grim and desolate landscape of foid achievement
>>533168068>>533168334Seriously, the reason he attracts attention is that his perverse sexuality and narcissism make for fascinating entertainment.People are drawn to Yukio Mishima as a character even more than to his literature.My guess is that this backstory was probably based on Mishima as well.
>the closeted fag trying to deny Mishima was a faglmao wtf is wrong with rightoids
>>533168065so you admit you have zero reading comprehension. I posted the audiobook so it's the most accessible to people who haven't read it, they don't need to buy anything or wait for delivery. If you actually bother to read the book you might look at your behavior now and ask how this serves the destruction of evil.Or you can keep on with your illiterate soifaggot reddit retcon: >he's gay>everyone's actually gay>his coup was theatrical and a pretext for suicide>he was never going to succeed, no strong men ever succeed>it's all hopeless and you should give up>just be a good goyslave. Fact is, he gave the JSDF a chance, he gave them the option of simply changing their mind and taking the country back for the Emperor and restoring the glory of the Empire of the Sun. They refused. The Japanese wanted their dysgenics and slow collapse into salarymen and tentacle hentai. He gave them an out, they didn't want it, they wanted to be bitches to the kiked West. His suicide was a symbolic fuck you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ndzp5HJFWLEthis is what they used to be. What Mishima saw a return to. You have no idea what you're talking about, and you're a pathetically weak man with poor reading comprehension.
https://hammockmag.com/part-of-the-process-yukio-mishima>While working on his novel Forbidden Colors, Mishima visited gay bars in Japan. Mishima's sexual orientation was an issue that bothered his wife, and she always denied his homosexuality after his death. In 1998, the writer Jirō Fukushima published an account of his relationship with Mishima in 1951, including fifteen letters from Mishima. Mishima's children successfully sued Fukushima and the publisher for copyright violation over the use of Mishima's letters.I'm wondering if his homosexuality was ritualistic in nature, or a result of his Grandma smothering him with her authority during his formative years.
>>533168867As long as he just gave hand jobs, frotted, and/or topped he would still be straight.
>>533163105>fudgepacker has a schizo meltie and then kills himself>im supposed to take him seriously
>>533168549>I'm a reductive illiterate with no appreciation of the Western CanonWe know
>gayWhy do people blatanly lie?
>>533168068no YOU post it faggot, you're the one making the claim. What part of "you will never post primary sources" (complete with proof they aren't a retcon), don't you get. You're already exposed, do I really need to do this twice? You read that bullshit somewhere, decided that was enough to discount someone without ever studying them. Perfect goyslave mentality. Bitch I bet future you could time travel back, warn you about stuff, and you'd google some tumblr post calling you gay, and conclude you now have to ignore yourself because you're gay.TLDR: Anne frank had a "diary" too dumbass.
>>533168978>Anon doesn't know what a "lavender marriage" is.
>>533164015The sweater your grandma knitted for your sixth birthday
You can enjoy homoeroticism and intimacy with other men without being gay. That’s what the Ancient Greeks did. Actual buttsex was never accepted by any ancient society unless it was pederast shit.
>>533169012My God you are a treat lol. Definitely closeted as all hell, no denying that.
>>533168978>>533169028What puzzles me most is why the people in this thread are so unintelligent that they can only think in terms of 0 or 100.Do they seriously believe that a man who likes men cannot possibly feel sexual attraction to women at all?Have they never even heard the word “bisexual”?
>>533163105>pindick chuddySour grapes
>>533169028>he may have got an erection and came inside his wife multiple times, but he was secretly gay in a society that didn't give a fuck if you were gay!Ur retarded
>>533168978His literature is pretty questionable at times"Even the excitement aroused in me by an attractive ephebe stopped short at mere sexual desire. To give a superficial explanation, my soul still belonged to Sonoko"Literally about a gay boy fighting against his inner gayness in order to be straight. Mishima may be one of the few "based" faggots in history. Since he supposedly wrangled his faggotry in the name of the pure love he had for the women in his life.Him trauma dumping in his literature about how his grandmother pretty much isolated him from little kids his age during his formative years also doesn't help the case. If anything it muddies the waters, maybe he was bisexual due to the trauma induced by his batshit crazy grandma. Gayness and trauma seem to go hand in hand, it would make sense in this case.
He's not saying women are particuarly unintelligent. He's saying theyre generally UNWISE. Don't you faggots play vidya and roleplaying games all day? Intelligence and Wisdom were 2 different character stats for a reason.
>>533166648>Woman can absolutely be smart historiansSource? I've never heard of any female historians who weren't fully preoccupied pushing some patriarchy bullshit story or that Hitler was a gay trans woman or shit like that.And mathematicians? No doubt they can learn math, but can they innovate?Their presence in psychiatry is, as far as I can tell, rooted in them being mentally ill.
>>533163105This isn't really a crazy opinion but it has to be read in the context of his parents basically giving him to his overbearing grandmother to raise him. She only let him have weird girly hobbies then he grew into a bullied manlet. It's a wonder he wasn't giga ultra woman hater 9000
>>533169302I was in the depicted situation many times and it's fucking annoying.Valid to compare women to a cat.>gets on your lap whenever it feels like it but doesn't react when you call it
>>533169302I am tired of how whenever any philosopher has any opinion other than "zOmG! Women are kweens! I need sex sex sex sex!" People automatically think they are gay.
>>533163105>male artists with no backbone have always compromised and submitted to them.
>>533163260>This is also why they are terrible at humor.
>>533168965>>533164170anon you are a retard and your examples are pathetic
>>533169637My brother, the man went on multiple tirades in two books about the beauty of the male form and raw sexuality of masculinity. His self insert protagonist quite literally talks about his sexual urges for young twinks which he fights off for the sake of his soul mate wife who understands him at a deep level. This sounds at best like the ramblings of a bisexual man in denial, at worst a shamefully closeted gay man.
>>533163188that only makes him less biased - because his mind is not clouded by the desire instincts putting women on the pedestal, like most men do to be wise and look at things objectively you must be void of emotions and lust
>>533169637Are there philosophers who had an opinion like that?Personally I think men and women are quite similar in many respects, but there is a handful of distinct, sometimes subtle, differences that produce a seemingly drastic result, some of which are physiological in origin.>80% the same>but those 20% are impactful where overall behaviour patterns and attitudes are concerned
>>533163105Hes a critic. Critics are always half right and half wrong. Humanity has a clever way of differentiating themselves among lines that mean nothing to the universe staring at them. We are so much more alike than we are different the further away we are observed>but oh look, at how differentiated these rocks are from each other that we can see at what pressures and depths they were createdAnd how does that matter to my sore toe stubbed on the trail I hiked to see the valley that was torn from the streams of the mountain? These are inconsequential differences made large by an ego of limited perspective. Which is the unfortunate nature humanity.
>>533163105>This is something that anyone who is a man will have memory of, but the fact that, despite in their childhood years being troubled by the maliciousness, dishonesty, and selfishness of women and knowing that there is no animal as unpleasant as woman, their eyes are completely blinded by lust from time of their sexual awakening, when they later marry and once again discover the maliciousness, dishonesty, and selfishness of women, they mistake it for a great discovery that they have made for the first time in their lives, because they have completely forgotten their previous memories, seems to me to be pointless trouble.B-based?
>>533163188I made an ai that mimics and speaks all answers in his tone and he definitely comes off like a latent homosexual. Beautiful poetry explaining things tho.
>>533163105Truly an intelligent man.
>>533163105It's a learning experience for straight guys to model the way of thinking of intelligent gay guys. Mishima is one of them. They can be interesting. Understand how they think. BAP is the same kind but he's a shitposter with no true talent
>>533170117Kinda weird standpoint desu. Prepubescent children are the most alike, by far. I had a ton of female friends before the entire hormone thing, and the only actively dangerous/hostile femoid I had to deal with until then was my mother and grandmothers.Always been really popular with older females I'm not related to, and no, that's not great, it's spooky, but not terrible either.tl;dr hormones are a real shit-show
>>533170447Read the post again Germanoid he wasn't talking about female children
>>533169716>"Middlemarch is shit!" He cried as he booted up Steam
>>533169856if you don't have a penis in your mouth on your wedding day, you're not a man.- Arthur C. Clarke
>>533170567Well yes, but it does seem like an oversight. The sexual awakening problem is no different for men, and also what makes men enemies. Further I cannot say I had negative experiences with older, sexually mature but unrelated females, just with related ones, and those of a similar age starting halfway in puberty or so. Might be related to his family environment and homo tendencies desu, just factually speaking, or simply overlooking some discrepancies, possibly lost in translation.
>>533166027His first book was entirely and openlyabout his gayness. All of his books have masculine sexuality objectifications. His entire fascist programm is about young men training with him and piercing their bodies with long objects, he is the gayest fascist ever, not a faggy gay man, more like the cruising guys in the infamous Pacino movie.
>>533170100Men and women are different from both scientific and religious perspectives.Everything about a women from her skeletal structure to the way her mind thinks, is designed for motherhood. For example, women are more emotional so they don't abandon their babies.Everything about men is designed for hunting and killing things. Men have greater strength, do better under pressure, etc.Neither is superior. They just have different roles. The people trying to blur the line between man and woman are delusional and mentally ill.
>>533170932>more emotional so they don't abandon their babiesThat is partially a nurture thing, but also one of thinking yes; instead I'd say they are more conscious of emotion and more likely to act on them, which is necessary for a nurturing character, say compared to a hard, distant father character.But the fundamental emotional experience is fairly similar, just different in how they act on it.Worth saying that pregnancy causes acute changes in females brains, so that definitely also is important and possibly related to some modern problems, where there's many childless women 30+.And the physiological aspect, largely rooted in testosterone, obviously is crucial. Prepubescent boys and girls are very similar, even physically, so clearly there is a common baseline.
Was he an "I <3 plowing catamites" kind of faggot or one of them "I <3 drinking Bailey's from a shoe" kind of faggots? This is important.
>>533163188Faggots always think everybody is secretly gay.But notice, they never accuse anyone of being openly gay, they only predict secret, latent homosexuality, that way no concrete proof is ever required and concrete proof of the opposite conclusion can be easily dismissed as well.
>>533171139>pregnancy causes acute changes in females brainsIn this respect it might be fair to say a woman who has not given birth has not attained full maturity.This phenomenon can also be observed in some animals.
japanese incels: women sucks and are inferiorsalso japanese incels: masturbate and give half of their salary to virtual idols.
>>533166027kek.
>>533163188That would make him doubly right as his judgement is not clouded by dreams of tight pink pussy.
>>533171362I think it's quite obvious he was Bi but scared of women (not without good cause).>in other words he was into trapsDon't forget the fourth kind of gay though, the Shotacat kind of gay. Unequivocally the most dangerous one, and equally deranged as the drinking from boot type.
>>533171449Doubly gigabased of them. How many loads have you blown to porn whores with herpes medications on their wishlists?
>>533163105>The meaningless vestiges of the chivalric spirit earn frowns from Japanese travelers everywhere in the West, but that such tendencies are spreading in Japan as well spurs on the sincerity of my patriotic concern for Japan's future. Even I open doors for women, allow them to enter cars first, and lend them an arm when crossing the street as a compromise with the world, but inside I am telling them to eat shit. In general, even going by average life expectancy, women necessarily live longer than men, and it is strange that short-lived human beings must take care of long-lived human beings.Looks like he was jealous on women lmao.
>>533171678>equally deranged as the drinking from boot type.One fucking guy who lives at the bottom of a lake is not a "type." Unless you can provide ONE other real-world example, or even one singular real-world example, since "Old Greg" doesn't even count as that.
>>533171393>secretlylmao what is this copeEveryone can tell you are a fag, it isn't a secret
>>533164170Lol simp
>>533164170I like the Brontes. Women can be good writers sometimes because they are good at languages and detecting/describing sentiments. Those are kind of survival skills.
>>533166648>Woman can absolutely be smart historiansNo they can not. There have been surveys that show women have no clue of the timeframe of history. Some believe the American Civil War was 50 years ago and others think WW2 was 200. History is an abstract concept, which women are incapable of comprehending.
>>533163105> onee-chan baka desuuu!Nips are cringe
This is a wildy homosexual thread. It’s fascinating how self-professed heteros and homos here bicker over how much nip cum was gargled by this or that wannabe-philosopher loser twink
>>533171766Or he just wasnt a cuckoid who thinks women should have priviliges, im dutch i think its hilarious other so called "men" pay everything for women grow some balls split the bill faggot
>>533171449To be fair, perhaps he despaired and took his own life precisely because he had foreseen Japan ending up the way it has today.
>>533167348Mishima's best book is 若きサムライのために. His novels are gay and for women and were always intended to be. The people that base his character on his fiction are idiots.
>>533167348And>draft dodgerYeah, quintessential LARPer just like self-proclaiming "based right-wingers" in 4chan
>>533168978The western clothing looks awful. He should have demanded traditional clothes.
>>533172085>draft dodgerHe got rejected for being too physically small.
>>533169464Barbra Tuchman
>>533163105>meme flag>1 post by this IDI don't know why I come here anymore.
>>533163105I really wish you faggots would stop visiting his grave. I've seen first hand some scrawny white nerd leave flowers on it only to immediately have them removed and put in the burn pile with the other dead flowers and debris by the groundskeepers.
>>533172023He explained it in>>533172024. Mishima predicted what Japan would be like in 50 year and he was perfectly accurate. He didn't get the internet (who could?) but he did say Japanese people would be so conditioned to comfort that people would become obsessed with pointless information (useless idol trivia etc). He watched how ineffective the student riots were to actually getting rid of American based and concluded that unless people were willing to actually kill, like they did in the past, America would eventually control Japan and Japanese people would become passive without the means to change anything.
>>533171393>secretlyIf you have yourself photographed as st. Sebastian you are 100% openly gay.You might as well tattoo 'mighty peculiar' across your forehead in polari.
>>533171576Nothing quite matches the pulse and rhythm of a turgid member
>>533167437>>533171393Lol two homosexuals spotted
>>533172110>Gets examined>*cough**cough* I'm so weak! I might have tuberculosis (he didn't) and infect the squad!>dodged>phew, what a relief>Write a bunch of suicidal fascist things targeting the younger generation
>>533163105Mishima was the only based japnigger
>>533172019>Split the bill and accept her as equal Lol alphas pay full bill. Only betas split. You are man. You are provider. If you can't even do that...
>>533164170>George EliotThat's a dude pretending to be female lmao
>>533164170That's the best you could come up with? Grim.
>>533172382Lol crazy cope
>>533169856>My brother, the man went on multiple tirades in two books about the beauty of the male form and raw sexuality of masculinity. His self insert protagonist quite literally talks about his sexual urges for young twinks which he fights off for the sake of his soul mate wife who understands him at a deep level.Absolutely based male form>femoid form
>>533166481show tits u making shit up or jew or both
>>533166999The ego of women in workplace or school is legendary hilarious. They can't do shit but think they should call the shots. Women need daily beatings.
>>533163105>never had a male role model >never went to war or did anything masculine >homosexual >kills himself Troon
>>533172382How effective was this in reality?If dodging the draft had really been that easy, far more people would have done it.At the time, they were already so short on soldiers that they were even dragging old men into service.I would think cutting off both index fingers so you couldn’t hold a rifle would have been more reliable.I have heard there were actually quite a lot of cases like that.
>>533172110He faked tuberculosis by his own admission later onI’m more of a man than him, and I’m a total loser, but at least I served
>>533163188fpbp and checked.
>>533163105Dumb opinion. The reality is 99% of men are just as retarded and dim viewed as any woman. The only saving grace is men have a wider curve of traits so whilst the dumbest fucking retards on this planet will be men, the few geniuses will also be men.So pioneers and major figures are naturally going to be men, but effectively 100% of men seething about women are just as dim if not moreso than women.
>>533163188Imagine respecting this faggot
>>533164170Based /lit/erato. I would add Emily Dickinson.
>>533172624It’s not 1%, it’s more like 10%. But we’re all outcasts now.Mishima was a lavender marriage normalFAG pining to be a intellectual, visionairy /pol/tard like us
>>533172781Yeah, im ill so it was rough generalization but the point is still that I'm tired of retarded deanos with copy paste hair cuts driving audis and playing FIFA talking about how useless women are. How women are materialistic, cheat etc etc when the reality is men are frankly no different. Yes distribution means the most interesting, unique, successful people will be men but that's only a tiny portion of the upper curve and it's matched by the opposite end where the most wet brained spastics are men too. Don't get me wrong I have a lot of antipathy towards your average woman but the average man is no better.
>>533166481Fuck off foid
>>533172624It serves no purpose to bring up incel haters into question I do think their hatred isn't justified thoughIt's not a matter of perspective or anything it's a simple fact: European men aresuperior The white race is great due to white men
>>533172908To add to this some people then take it to inane extremes and think all women are incapable morons which is wrong. I've met a lot of very sharp, industrious women who you'd trust in a crisis over your average man. But you have brickies with gout at 30 thinking they've got more wits about them. Again the absolute best will be men but just by odds that's not the vast majority of men championing their superiority. Most people jaded with women would do better to realize they're mostly just jaded with normies.
>>533172578As the other anon said, it would be impossible to dodge the draft on tuberculosis alone, I don't care what CIA shit you read to discredit Mishima (which is the same shit as all the glowies here calling him gay). He was legitimately sickly which is why he started body building.
>>533167348>Sun and SteelThis book sucked. It's like 90% death fetishizing and suicidal ideation, with a couple of paragraphs about physical discipline. Don't know why people act like it's life-changing philosophy.
>>533172908ok bless you dormogenes
>>533163105>Women are foolsEvery day this is proven more true.A religion with standards and philosophy and rules becomes a communist-green religion once a woman takes charge.These HR Karens are ruining our nations.
>>533173101Well i guess the relevance is that the majority of people complaining about women will be deep within the curve alongside the women they're raging about. It reminds me of the Louis Theroux manosphere doc with HS tickytocky complaining about women then hanging out with that retarded slag "hot plasterer". Seeing that i thought I wouldn't be able to get on with her for one minute, we'd have zero shared ground or 'vibe' but he could chat with her and get on. Despite his posturing that was his female equivalent, he wasn't smarter or better. If he was he just wouldn't be able to integrate with girls like that.
>>533163105I know plenty of women who are more intelligent and more mature than avreage pol user. Also there are some women who do good art and music (i.e Hania Rani)If men would be so great as those retards crying about feminism claim we wouldn't end up with WW1 and WW2 perpetrated by men in world where there was no feminism which killed men. And now we are left with OF whores earning more than engineers. Who pay these whores? Men. Those men the "manosphere" faggots say are better than women. Somehow these vile stupid women can suck out millions out of simps. Who is the stupid one here?
>>533171699lel, k tard. virtual idols are 3d girls parading as 2d girls; you are still listening, worshiping, talking and giving your money to a real girl.
>>533173411>Well i guess the relevance is that the majority of people complaining about women will be deep within the curve alongside the women they're raging about.You don't know thatYou're just speculating >It reminds me of the Louis Theroux manosphere doc with HS tickytocky complaining about women then hanging out with that retarded slag "hot plasterer".I have no idea who Louis Theroux is the fact that you watch such content says a lot about yourself You're using the same patterns simpletons use in order to demonstrate that niggers are our equals which are anecdotal evidence and baseless speculation>>Well i guess the relevance is that the majority of people complaining about niggers will be deep within the curve alongside the niggers they're raging about.>I've met a lot of very sharp, industrious niggers who you'd trust in a crisis over your average man.
>>533173595Or that’s just your level and smart men actively avoid talking with you for obvious reasons
>>533173721I do know that, you meet a large swathe of society in life and I've consistently found it's more working class men who more consistently complain about female intelligence or capability.As for not knowing who Louis Theroux is that is entirely on you.
>>533173939How is that not anecdotal?Maybe working class people are more free to criticize women, considering they work in fields less political, more practical, and less likely to be at the mercy of HR women.>>533173253Sounds based I should read it.>>533172742Anyone who discounts the opinion of a man because of his perceived sexuality does so at the peril of his own wisdom.>He was a faggotWas he correct?>YesThen his faggotry doesn't matter in the material sense of perception, but instead he gives you the ick.Woman-brained opinion discarded
>>533167437play acting a hetro couple marriage is disgusting, faggots should really keep to their lane.Gay marriage is a joke, outside of the obvious potential tax benefits. But the thought of these homos raising another person child and pulling attention from normal hetero couples is anti-civilisational.Gays are side-character energy when they become the main character society goes sodom.
>>533167348>If you're interested in actually learning about Mishima (it can only improve your life)i don't in any way see how obsessing over another man who incidentally killed himself is going to make anyone's life better
>>533173253i don't knowpeople are so god damn desperate for an idol and will do everything to avoid living their own life
>>533173939This is anecdotalTradesmen are more likely to have the freedom to speak their mind, their jobs are t directly political and less likely overseen by HR tyrants.>>533172742>He's a faggotBut was he correct?>Yeah but gayThe content of his statement is the only material consequence of his philosophy. That he gives you the ick is woman-coded thinking.
>>533163105I take women more seriously than faggots who write about jerking off to young boys getting shot with arrows
Test.WTF glowniggers Im not allowed to comment on Mishima?
>>533173595>I know plenty of women who are more intelligent and more mature than avreage pol user.Not an argument anecdotal fallacy>Also there are some women who do good art and music (i.e Hania Rani)Compare them with their white male counterparts then >If men would be so great as those retards crying about feminism claim we wouldn't end up with WW1 and WW2 perpetrated by men in world where there was no feminism which killed men.What's the point of bringing up wars into a discussion about the status of women >And now we are left with OF whores earning more than engineers. Who pay these whores? Men. Those men the "manosphere" faggots say are better than women.I'm not here to defend simps I think these retards overlap with incels anyway I hate them as well >Somehow these vile stupid women can suck out millions out of simps. Who is the stupid one here?Perspective matters here In a world where women have the opportunity to become whatever they want they decide to become whores A simp has the capabilities to earn some money by doing something in society while the whore earns the money of a simp by being a whore You think the simp is more pathetic because you're an empathic woman but the whore is more pathetic because she perpetuates the idea that a woman is just a pussy
>>533173939That's not the point Your argument is le dumb working class man said that niggers aren't our equals as if that changes anything Regardless who says that women aren't our equals so a faggot or a hillbilly truck driver is still remains true
Only faggots can see women for what they really are with out lust and wishful thinkingStraightoids can't help but simp for women
>>533173595You post under a Polish flag. It means you were probably raised up in Poland and you are a brainwashed terminal simp like the rest of the lower classes here. Opinion discarded. Hang yourself.
>>533163105>the sky is blueAMG SO PHILOSOPHICAL N SHIEEET
>>533168849>posts all that then shares clip from the chink version of schindlers list about another fake historical event that never happened
>>533168068Here you go homo:"A remarkably handsome youth was bound naked to the trunk of a tree. His crossed hands were raised high, and the thongs binding his wrists were tied to the tree…His white and matchless nudity gleams against a background of dusk…It is not pain that hovers about his straining chest, his tense abdomen, his slightly contorted hips, but some flicker of melancholy pleasure like music…The arrows have eaten into the tense, fragrant, youthful flesh and are about to consume his body from within with flames of supreme agony and ecstasy…That day, the instant I looked at the picture, my entire being trembled with some pagan joy…My blood soared up; my loins swelled as though in wrath. The monstrous part of me that was on the point of bursting awaited my use of it with unprecedented ardour, upbraiding me for my ignorance, panting indignantly. My hands, completely unconsciously, began a motion they had never been taught. I felt a secret, radiant something rise swift-footed to the attack from inside me. Suddenly it burst forth, bringing with it a blinding intoxication…Some time passed…I looked around the desk. There were cloudy-white splashes about – on the gold-imprinted title of a textbook, on a shoulder of the ink bottle, on one corner of the dictionary…Fortunately, a reflex motion of my hand to protect the picture had saved the book from being soiled"Confessions of a Mask
>>533163188yes he was, a massive one and he was wrong to be one. but on this subject bhe is correct . you see faggotry is wrong, but women should not be taken seriously on that heb is correct.
>>533163188Sorry Jimbob, you're taking an L on this one.
>>533163105Also Yukio Mishima:>I am too perfect and beautiful for this earth>[kills himself]
>>533172742BUILT for BWC. And he's absolutely right.
>>533163105They cargo cult male delusions because of the society men built. Blaming women for that is foolish. This is not a fait accompli of feminism. Without capitalism, feminist would putter around in their corner, men in theirs, they'd fuck in the middle. In a lot of circumstances triviality and low grade realism are helpful, less likely to start wars over mental circle jerks for instance.This society where everyone is in intense competition and which forced women into that competition, using the weapons at their disposal, was a creation of man. Men are always to blame, with power comes responsibility.
>hmmm>yaaaaa!Kek
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>>533163188>>533172742Mishima is the based Greek kind of gay, not the faggy American kind of gay
>>533176151meant this one
>>533170889What gay Pacino movie is this lmao. The gimp guy. Only a degenerate europoor would know this shit. Tom of finland shit lamo. Dudes rock.
>>533163105>chadnetTop fucking kek You touched a pussy in your life
>dodge the draft because you were scared of dying in a war >cry about it your entire life even thought it was a stupid already lost war anyway>do some stupid unplaned shit in military base>do some stupid nationalist chud speech to the soliders>nobody can hear you because of helicopters>do a hero>chuds in america worship you for some reasonhe also wrote some gay books or something
>>533163188Pseuds and Lefty's think he is a gay because of his book ‘Confessions of the Mask’ but that books filters most low iq retards because of the nuanced themes (mainly around death). He drops the gay stuff mid book once he meets a 10/10 qt.
>>533176220>>533176151Ban him
>>533163105>extreme right-wing who became a faggot.Sorry, opinion discarded, just pretend to listen to women, but don’t take their advice seriously, that’s all I do.
>>533163105https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPAZQ6mhRcU
>>533163105>faggot who loves boypussy >hates women but marries one because fascist>kills himselfunironically this is literally the story of pretty much typical /pol/ user
>>533163105He was a hysterical faggot playing on the same jewy dialectic of women being superior/inferior to men when in reality they complete each other, they don't compete with each other.Men work, fight, build civilization. Women breed, nurture, manage the household. You can't build a civilization without households. Every man needs a woman and every woman needs a man, this is what God said. This is the National Socialist ideal, the natural asset of Fascism, and anything else is anti-human talmudic delusion.
>>533173325I was fucked by a priest - Catholic...
>>533172180Oh nooo the queen of japan is gonna judge me. Fuck off groundskeeper willy. You are a preening bitch. I hate women but i hate feminine gay nagging men and this thread is full of them. this is to every queen that has nagged me with their mother complex on this board where weak bitches gather to call their betters 'schizo'. Every single time. You feel naked and judged like a woman, you do not clothe yourself in armour like the samurai. I am going to keep admiring warriors and emperors while you whine and bitch like an evil woman, gay commie.
>>533177965Based
Mishima was an ultrachad, at least after his fransformation from a man of words to a man of deeds. I am not too fond of his words, I felt both Sun and Steel and especially The Sailor Wo fell From Grace to the Sea were somewhat unhinged in many passages. I haven't tried another book.It is noteworthy that the fag movement still tries to claim him for themselves to share in his almost-nobel-prize-but-not-jewish-enough glory. They really don't have any spine or values other than cumming into as many assholes as possible.
Simps consider themselves equal with w*men. Simps are projecting their homosexual urges onto w*men. Youthful boys are for love and w*men are for recreation and procreation, this is the natural order which semites have perverted with their simp mother complex. They are extremely dangerous in a civilisation that has empowered them.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kouros
>>533173325Nigga.Your entire Church was FOUNDED by karen feminists.Christianity started off as a feminist movement.It's just returning to its roots.
>>533163105Based truth nuke. Men > foids.
>>533176446> Only a degenerate europoor would know this shitIt’s a US movie you retard
>>533169464The great courses has some killer courses by women, the one on Mesopotamia is great. Caroline Alexander is also a great female historian
>>533172742>says TrumanImagine taking the words of a freemason and champagne socialist at face value. Commies in the old days always used fake accusations of faggotry against their opponents to damage their societal standing. They did the same to Hoover and McCarthy.
>>533170889Mishima was very effeminate growing up and his father abused him heavily for it, his penname came from his teachers to shield him from his father learning he liked writing. His masculinity was a later development that grew from his youthful fantasizing about his death in war or suicide, he came to believe a man's death lacked any beauty or artistic quality unless that man was masculine, otherwise it would just be like a tranny committing suicide, an object of humor or pity but not art
>>533178643Truman oversaw the start of the Cold War, he was no socialist but yeah he was a liar
>>533178395Women do things for themselves. Always been like that. Narcissistic tendencies are nearly universal among women. You'll have a hard time finding exceptions.They don't even understand that they're unusually selfish because they just don't know what selflessness is like. If they didn't have an instinctual love for the children and the weak and sickly, they would be totally useless.
>>533178395It goes a lot deeper than that. You only think Christianity is masculine if you have no idea about religious history and the types of religions. It thrives off ignorance and coercion. I feel sorry for people like tucker carlson repeating all of its cucked political polemics against the traditional spirituality of the day. Was pleasantly surprised to read in OPs essay mishima is also anti- christ and recognises its role in chivalry and womens empowerment. 'Equal before god' 'bride of christ'. It absorbed all of the bridal religions around it. It is a typical type of a woman's bridal religion. It imposed feminine thinking on men. It is behind the root of our problems, yet for many, because of its bellicosity (also a trait of feminine religions) it is the default position.
>>533163105It's true.Women are permanently stuck in a mental and emotional state somewhere between a child and an adult man. They can never in their lives reach true maturity, and thus they should never be given true autonomy either.A suitable compromise in a democratic state might be making women's votes count for half of men's; this gives them a chance of getting themselves heard which still acknowledging that what a woman has to say isn't worth that much.
>>533177361>Women manage the household.I manage my own household without a woman.It is a meaningless amount of work a week.>You can't build a civilization without householdsFalse. You can't build a civilization without *men*.Without men, nothing happens.
while I don't necessarily embrace his aesthetics the reaction Mishima gets from "da right wing" is always very telling to me especially the power of the homosexual accusation, it reminds me of that often quoted passage in the Symposium about how tyrants oppose love of youths for the same reason they oppose philosophy and gymnastics, it strengthens bonds between males and emboldens their spirits, while they want broken menlove between men especially the bond between generations of men, adults and soon to be men, is an extremely powerful force, hell, the founding poem of western literature is about the almost otherwordly rage of a Greek aristocrat for the death of his most beloved comradeby conflating this love with sodomy and by using women as an acid agent to be inserted into every male space, a tyrant effects a very powerful type of divide and conquer in a subject populationMishima seems to me the kind of man that either by upbringing or natural affinity intuitively understands male love like Greeks did
>>533179217>I manage my own household without a woman.Yeah because you're a loner. Barely a step up from a hobo. If you had 4+ children (which is normal, expected and necessary in a healthy civilization), would you be able to manage your household alone? Cook, clean for all of them, for years, while still working full time? You can't build a civilization without childten.Your mind is utterly raped by the jews and by their sophistry.
>>533178969>religions are only good when they reflect my 2016 autist right weltschaunungNo
>>533178737The cold war began because Stalin started killing Jews. If the US was concerned about the shocking abuse and oppression of the Soviets, they would've sided with the Nazis from day 1.Truman actually oversaw and protected the establishment of the judeo-communist spy network in the US government that FBI and conservative lawmakers wanted to destroy, as did Roosevelt before him and Eisenhower after him. Truman's Loyalty Program was a farce, designed to keep known moles safe by effectively reducing investigation to a "do you really want to destroy the US or are you actually like totally super duper loyal? yes/no" questionaire.Democratic socialists are Trotzkists. They are judeo-communists planning to transform the world into a communist one, by applying the most insidious doctrine of permanent revolution. All Reds are Red.Start reading Stanton M. Evans' book about McCarthy to start learning about the true history of the world.
>>533163188Gays are mostly better than than the average heterosexual male and woman.
>>533178395>Your entire Church was FOUNDED by karen feminists.The Anglian Church was founded by an Ultra Giga Chad (Henry VIII) in 1534.Pic is the current ultra-liberal HR Karen Arch-Bishop (essentially the protestant version of a Pope).
>>533175383I got boner reading this, yet I can still say with certainty that I am completely heterosexual.Great writing can sometimes trigger unintended physical reactions in people, and I believe this is simply one example of that.
>>533179291That's deep bro.As a highschool and college dropout, I had to check that you were referencing the Iliad.I should read that, too. Thanks.
>>533179355>it's okay bro, just follow the herd and call our greatest leaders antichrist and replace our positive, masculine heroes with gay submissive jews ridden with bridal shame and guilt>never educate yourself deeply and form an independent opinion. that requires arisocratic blood and that's not only racist but anti-semitic>just slander those that do with cute buzzwords because it assuages my mental coercion of going to the jew hell if i dont accord roman imperial honours to a gay commie child-trafficking jewherd soul. spiritual communist.why are you even here? to whine and bitch at men?did you think before you whined that out on your keyboard, sheep-soul? am i supposed to look at you and validate your existence? if an anon asked me what cults, i might have expanded, but all is wasted on a herbivore soul such as yourself 'bride of christ'. you want the easy, conformist, common opinion that doesn't challenge you because that would be 'chud' 'incel' or 'buzzword'.It is 2036, not 2016, as more wake up. 2016 was 'cuck be'ez kang', remember, when hasbara shills flooded /pol/? election tourist? gay.
>>533179539Henry VIII was an obese sodomite with rotting legs, who destroyed your entire culture. Britain went from being off limits to jews into the hub of world jewry barely 100 years later.
>>533179434https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Gregory_Silvermaster
>>533179539Taking bets on whether she had already eaten aborted fetus flesh prior to being elected archbishop by the Satanic Temple of Englistan.
>>533179592Another fucking caricature
>>533179324>Slander, belittling, shaming, talks about status and childrenYep, it's a foid>Cook, clean for all of them, for years, while still working full time? Yes. Single women do this too. It's not hard.
>>533163105They belong in barns.
>>533163105>started out as a left wing fag>educated, weak, prolapsed>found Adolf>remagined himself, trained, moar educated >tried to overthrow Japanese post war globohomo >failed>an heroedthe west needs this type of good gay.
>>533179760UK posters are exceptionally retarded tonight. Is it school holidays?
>>533163188He's literally a BASED old fashioned faggot, in contrast to an American gay parade globalist faggot like your shithole cunt lol
>>533179563>I got boner reading this, yet I can still say with certainty that I am completely heterosexual.You're definitely a faggot
>>533179760women being household workers is common even in extremely patriarchal and masculine/misogynistic cultures not sure why you are worked up about this so much
>>533179736yeah and '2016 autist right wing weltanschauung' is totally reasonable and normal. take a fucking look at yourself christ-commie piece of shit. you all act the same. 'rules for thee but not for me' 'cuck be'ez kang', say it pussy. say the line. no, I see you accurately with my carnivore eyes while you fight vaguely threatening pictures in your head.
>>533178314that's not true, you fucking faggot.the greek tradition of fucking young boys originated from long military campaigns that lasted for decades, so they resorted to fucking younger soldiers to fulfill their needs of fucking atleast something, you absolute fucking retarded faggot.only one other greek city state adopted the "two homos side by side" fighting technique because it promised better results from battle.otherwise it was always unnatural and deemed fucked up by every other society, tribe and culture.you literally shit out of that hole substance that includes bacteria and parasites, you imbecile.maxim gorky was right, delete all fags and fascism will vanish overnight.
>>533163105He was gay. He created a cult to access young men for gay sex. They performed as a boy band and released albums.https://www.discogs.com/release/11728410
>>533179835>Butt-hurt foid
>>533179291Your historical analysis is right, but applying it to Mishima is a misplaced effort.He was a lecherous narcissist, sadomasochist, and deeply disturbed individual. Just remember his personal life and how he died. And his prose is full of extreme infatuation with male body, with unabashed sexual overtones. We aren't talking about Achilles / Patroclus dynamic, which was homoerotic, but focused on the bond of spirit. Mishims is carnal, just look for yourself in >>533175383 here.Granted, I don't think that he was a homosexual. Just a perverted sex addict, they often bisexual and paraphilic after all.
>>533179563Of course Mr. Hiroyuki, we all know that you are 100% straight.
>>533167791>it has already been proven that whenever communists talk about workers' rights, they are only larping, because in reality they think labourers are retarded beasts far below their superior faggot intellect, and they will be enslaved as cattle in the commie world to comeFTFY
>>533163105Women cannot build civilizations
>>533179957>psychoticaly tilting at windmills he constructed in his own head in the form of dour, retarded longfom tweets Christianity has its moments. Stll waiting for yours. All you Mishima Stans left out that the self destructive fatalism is part of the fetish.
>>533163188So he thought so badly of women that he'd rather fuck guys?That sounds pretty BASED!
>>533179982Did you go on an egg hunt?
>>533179982More on the subject
>>533178643Retard. It's not harry truman it's his homo buddy truman capote.
>>533163105>women who live constantly in the illusion that they are individual exceptions to the rule, are in fact representative of foolish womenDamn, bro. Too real.
>>533179996>He was a lecherous narcissist, sadomasochist, and deeply disturbed individual. Just remember his personal life and how he died. And his prose is full of extreme infatuation with male body, with unabashed sexual overtones. I got the same impression >Granted, I don't think that he was a homosexual. Just a perverted sex addict, they often bisexual and paraphilic after all.Your conclusion isn't accurate though Faggots are perverts just like Mishima
>>533179982Giving women authority is like giving children authority.It ends in disaster.
>>533180042>oOOoHhoOHOOhhh feel shame, feel shame for talking and expressing yourself or putting a flower on mishima's grave or... or... i'll nag you like a woman!!>tuck your cock in sexist pig, or the Great Mother... I mean Christ will be upset!>you are [x] caricature, but dont say anything back! mummy says it's bad!!!they all do this. for a religion of 'truth, way and life' they sure play hard and fast with truth.these 'men' love adopting the same nagging tone their mother emasculated themselves with and scared them with hell in infancy. i can hear her through you christcucck.im not falling for it. it's not all about you. just say it, say the line 'cuk iz kang yawl' and we can both get out of here. dont drag it on chrigger.Mishima is right about Christsemites. hurts, doesn't it?
>>533172232I don't get what this has to do with gayness.
>>533180269Yukio Mishima was primarily attracted to men and engaged in homosexual relationships, though he married and had children, leading many to consider him bisexual. While his private life involved frequenting gay bars and having male lovers, he rarely identified publicly as gay, leading to complex interpretations of his sexuality and its relation to his extreme nationalism.
>>533169122is your post intended to be an example of how to sound gay, or was that an accident on your part
>>533179981Cool, I didn't know he had a gunka singer side gig. I also heartily suggest Tsuruta Koji and the Bonny Jacks for their gunka repertoire.https://youtu.be/XHEwqLLuwYMhttps://youtu.be/4D3SETrENWA
very interesting thank you for sharingphysical fitness and martial training is something i lackbut have been getting better abouti want to get a pull up bar and make surei workout every morning before breakfast
>>533179982Femoids are dum dum but they're cute If only there was a way to suppress our desire for beauty
To be fair, Mishima was not gay; rather, he simply held both himself and others to an excessively severe aesthetic standard.This interview gives a very good sense of that side of his philosophy.
>write several books describing how fucking other men is the best thing in the world>openly frequent gay bars and have literally dozens of gay loversand the typical /pol/tard goes: yo that's not gay, thonever change you fucking worthless faggots.
>>533180146Changes nothing.>Streckfus (lit. Stretchfoot)If my name was that retarded I would also adopt a cover name, lmao.
>>533180594>believe all w*men!It has nothing to do with his body, she is inflating herself and taking his words from elsewhere as w*menniggers do. it's that moment of being talked down to by a bitch that every womanhater knows intimately and recognises. I go through this at least once a week and it has nothing to do with anything she says, nor do I have such concern for w*man's opinion. Boylove is based.
>>533166481the tenacity that often kills a man is what makes men divinely inspired in his art and lifes work
>>533180594>he lost his temper>"I find this most unpleasant"My God if she'd see how much manners have deteriorated today even in Japan.
>>533180240> yids projectingHow tiresome.
>>533180734Pack your things I just reported your post to the bobbies
>>533180862>but i have nothing to do with yids at allback in line spiritual semite, 'bride of christ'. boyloving pagan men are speaking. you act like a haughty, opinionated bitch attached to his mother, as if our worlds revolve around you.
>>533180734>>533180771>>533180734>>533180771By the way, the person conducting the interview is not a woman but a man.It is said that Mishima remained infatuated with him throughout his life.
>>533166481>rigged society>status as measure of successnever skip philosophy day, or else you will shit outposts like this, that dont even pass basic philosophical musterbut try to pass themselves off as tough guy old fagbravado in lieu of an argument SADMANY SUCH CASES
>>533180994the queen died in 2022. this is no longer a matriarchy. the king will give me prince andrew's royal honours, which he lost for simping to a bitch
>>533166648MONEY = SMARTECONOMIC STATUS = IQGET WITH THE PROGRAM POORFAG YOU. ARE. YOUR. KHAKIS.HAVENT YOU HEARD?HIGH IQ STEM KINGS RULE THE WORLDALL THE WAGIES ARE SEETHING UNCONTROLLABLYBECAUSE THEY ARE LOSERS WHILE DEMIGODSLEARN TO CODE AND SWIM ON AN OCEAN OF BISHESGIT GUD FAGGOT NIGGERS AHAHAHAHA
>>533163105I read The Sailor Who Fell and it was insanely fascist I wondered if he was for real or not
>>533163105Hai!>nods very quickly and randomly
>>533181010w*menniggers acting like they have a deep understanding of a man's psychology and hence finally, finally hold power and authority over him. They probably played pool together while never thinking about her which drives her insane so she agreed to the interview to finally get 2nd hand shine and be part of the in-group.
>>533164946I have high hopes for this soïjak. It may become top 5 or top 3 easily
>>533163105>>533163188>>533163512>>533163871>>533166027>>533168334>>533172232>>533179981Retards have been so conditioned by modern misandry and jewish deconstructionist propaganda that they view anything said that is even remotely positive about Men, Masculinity, or the Male form as homosexuality, all while they continue to worship Women and Jewry.Fat Christian Swine who hate themselves and hate nature, conditioned by a jewish god to hate the way God made them.
>>533181132His novel Voices of the Heroic Dead was sublime, it's his most overt defense of the spirituality of the Special Attack Forces and rebuke of the emperor's ningen sengen ((人間宣言, humanity declaration). It inspired me early on in my journey into Europe's imperial spiritual traditions. He depicts the emperor as a living god, and spiritual Sun.There was a Japanese translator on X who posted some soldiers or something attacking Americans and telling them to 'die' and 'go away' because they 'believe in nothing' and 'hate the Sun'. Wish I could find it, but he deleted his account. The absolute fuming for the Judaeo-West was based.
>>533180862>>533180996Christians quantifiably rape more kids then so called "Pagans", just look at the priests and pastors around the world, all pedophiles and Masons.
>>533163188faggot, maybe, but a based one, like freddy and morrissey
>>533181369>posts david, a kike hero presented as an AryanPost Doryphoros or Apollo>Mishima had a giant statue of ApolloMakes sense a Samurai would revere the solar god of the imperial cult and patriarchy (he says women are not truly the parent of the child and established the right of primogeniture in Athens, which held to modern times.)
>>533181441>The absolute fuming for the Judaeo-West was based.Thanks for this thread, I had not previously known how anti-Christkike Mishima was, since it slips by under all of the Japanese cult.
>>533181504I can agree with that, but Michelangelo was ultimately a product of his time. He was however of Aryan Blood, and so if we're following the rules of biological reality and not ideological reality, his work was ultimately of an Aryan nature, as it could have only been produced by an Aryan hand.Kike subversion is everywhere and attached to everything like the spiritual parasites that they are, but the hands that crafted most the great marvels in the world were not Jewish, nor did they come from any of the other Non-Noble Races (Germanic, Japanese, Mediterranean, and some small sections of the Arab and Amerindian world.)
>>533181369Niggerfaggot, stop that kvetching.He was openly a fucking homo and no amount of mental gymnastics can change that, ever.Stop confusing masculinity, manhood and pride and putting that homo factor in there.You can be a masculine man that loves his body and admires the sculpted bodies of other men without getting an erection about it.You fucking faggots ruin everything.
>>533166942The vagina is devouring and coming for us all
>>533181836>Women haven't been invented yet.>Shows an animalBack to owochan now, beastfucker
>>533181647Yes I agree, although to newcomers it functionally works as an affirmation of the Jewish cult, as they take credit and mislead youth. I actually did not know that was the biblical David for the longest time because of how strongly Aryan he looks and how strongly he fits in to the Graeco-Roman art tradition, which itself derives from Egypt and Alexander's conquest (the classical orders all look like Egyptian temples).That is why it is so important to educate and affirm that tradition, because it is not the only Aryan product usurped by Christkekery. I advise you to look deeper into Polykleitos' Canon. Galen (imperial doctor of Marcus Aurelius) has an entire treatise on Plato relative to Hippocrates. He speaks of Polykleitos' Canon as being an exemplar of the Aryan/Apollonian principle of proportionate balance, that Plato and Hippocrates teach the same principle in two registers: beauty is in the proportion of balance, health in the proportion of the elements in the body.I think of the aesthetic bodybuilders like Frank Zane who presented himself as an Olympian god in his stage routines, and imitated poses from classical statues (s-curve) while the mass monsters that took over would be considered an unnatural man-beast monstrosity like the Minotaur.This is the root; this is what we ought to be discussing and teaching, not Christsemite schizophrenic fables that in the end, are bad, literalist retoolings of Greek, actually historical myth, with Jewish racial supremacy tacked on to the end, anyway.I leave it here for you and any anon.https://archive.org/details/ondoctrinesofhip0000gale
>>533182143>[Chrysippus] showed this clearly in the passage that I quoted a short time ago, in which he says that health of body is proportion in things that are hot, cold, dry, and wet, which are obviously elements of bodies; but he believes that beauty does not lie in the proportion of the elements but of the members: of finger, obviously, to finger, of all the fingers to palm and wrist, of these to forearm, of forearm to upper arm, and of all to all, as is written in Polycleitus’ Canon. Polycleitus first gave us full information in that book about all the proportions of the body, then he confirmed his account in action by fashioning a statue in accordance with the demands of the theory; and he gave to the statue, as he did to the treatise, the name Canon. All physicians and philosophers place beauty of body in the proportion of the members, and health in the proportion of the elements, whatever they may be, to each other.>De placitis Hippocratis et Platonis (‘On the Doctrines of Hippocrates and Plato’), Galen
>>533163105Here is the real truth. Women aren't inferior to men in absolute terms generally speaking. However, the best men ARE superior to all women. Therefore the BEST men should be in charge of everything. All the biological risk is carried with the men. Mother nature or God or whatever it is already seems to have finished designing women. The fate of men appears to still be up for debate and it appears as if they are the only ones that actually have free will in the truest sense.
>>533180269St. Sebastian and depictions of his body has been an object of fascination for gays and their subculture going back to at least Wilde.Mishima wrote extensively about how excited he was by Guido Reni's depiction of the saint in confessions of a mask and decided to have himself photographed as this unofficial patron saint of homosexuals. The only way the sordid situation could have been gayer is if he'd insisted on the photo-shoot taking place in a turkish bathhouse.>>533181369>I didn't know about this particular association, therefore it doesn't existYou are a dunce. A card-carrying mouthbreather and a walking argument for elitism.
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>>533182143I'll consider it. I've read Plato, but I have a harder time accessing the Mediterranean spirit overall.I will say I notice among the Abrahamic faith a very Anti-Nature and self loathing tendency, exemplary in how most of them don't work out or take care of their body in any capacity. A return to healthier modes of living would entail a faith that does not view the body as shameful, so while I may disagree with the Greeks on a lot of things, most explicitly pederasty, I do think that their veneration of the human form is very Noble.>>533181785>"Akihiro Miwa, who was close to Yukio Mishima, wrote that “Mishima was not a real homosexual,” so even though he had a homosexual tendency, he was not really gay like Akihiro Miwa. The fact is that there was nothing definite that there was a real experience, even if there was a homosexual tendency." >"I think he had a homosexual tendency, but it seems that Yukio Mishima himself was not gay as if it is generally thought." I'll agree he was homo-erotic in some instances, but I don't think this negates either his work, or the overwhelming fact that he had a Wife and Children and consistently emphasized Traditional living. He was an artist above all, and therefor not afraid to explore these themes, but nothing of this is an indication he ever had sex with men. This same issue persists in how people interpret Bushido, which is focused on exalting the male form and bond formation between soldiers, but is not an admission to buttfuckery.
>That day, the moment I glimpsed the painting, my whole being quivered with pagan joy. >My blood roiled in my veins, my loins swelled almost in an emptiness of rage. >The monstrous part of me that was close to exploding waited for me to use it with unprecedented ardor, rebuking my ignorance, gasping in outrage. >My hands, not at all unconsciously, began a movement I had never learned. >I felt something secret, something radiant, launching itself rattily to the assault from within. >It erupted suddenly, bringing with it a blinding intoxication....>Some time elapsed and then, in a desolate mood, I looked around at the desk I stood in front of. >Outside the window a maple tree was casting a vivid glare everywhere -- on the ink bottle, on school books and notebooks, on the dictionary, on the image of St. Sebastian. >Splashes of a dim whiteness appeared here and there - on the title in gold letters of a textbook, on the margin of the inkwell, on an edge of the dictionary.>Some objects dripped lazily, others glowed with a dim gleam like the eyes of a dead fishBowtie-wearing men with a stutter will struggle against their disability as they try to convince you that this graphic description of jerking off to men belongs in the autobiographic writings of a heterosexual man.
>>533182532In a culture which actively diminishes the existence of men and healthy masculinity, you get retards like Oscar Wilde who after having been so repressed spiritually and artistically, express the will to order and physical beauty in the most grotesque ways.It's ironic that Gays use sexual repression to justify their hedonism, when in fact what is repressed in them isn't homosexuality, but the will to engage in healthy masculinity and beauty.Mishima on the other hand was conscious of this, so while he engaged in perhaps his "Homoerotic leaning", he didn't let it consume him like some faggot, he set out to find healthier expressions of masculinity.Even the tranny he hung out with explicitly stated "He wasn't gay like the rest of us were gay." see >>533182641A Mans nature is inherently Heterosexual, homosexuality is a malformation.
>>533182641You stupid fucking idiot. What and who Yukio Mishima was is not a secret nor ever was a secret to fucking anyone.Read his books: "Forbidden colors" and "Confessions of a mask", he was openly and frequently visiting gay bars and had multiple known gay lovers.He was, beyond and above all, a fucking fantastic artist and an amazing human being.None of that is negated by him being a homosexual, NONE OF IT.But no amount of mental gymnastics you can ever do will negate the fact that he was gay, NO AMOUNT of greco-roman male body aesthetics or truth about women being inferior to men will fucking change that fact.He was a fucking faggot, that doesn't mean it's bad, but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SAY IT HOW IT IS, FOR FUCKS SAKE.
>>533182799Nobody denies the Homo eroticism present in his work, but to put him on the same level of Wilde or modern faggotry is just plain wrong.If homosexuality is to be seen as a disease, then it is measured by how far the disease has progressed. Mishima is a man who sought to overcome that disease by finding healthier expressions of Masculinity. What you guys do on the other hand is view are insanely repressed and male-hating world as this immutable thing. Trannies and faggots weren't born this way, and many of them have the potential to be cured.If we want to prevent future faggotry, we need the work of men like Mishima to help define a healthier sense of Masculinity and Art, so as to encourage young men to develop into a healthier form.
All great man say the same thing. Women are fucking retarded and should not be taken seriously.
>>533182641Well, the entire statue tradition was literally based in pedaresty: nude young boy athletes: >>533178314They did not even make a female nude until an Aphrodite based on a hetaira (elite, educated female concubine for aristocratic men, referenced by Mishima in OP's essay) named Phryne.Just remember that Greek and Rome were not monoliths, they were highly stratified in terms of both race and religion. Greek had 3 strata, Rome a bit more. Christianity was the vengeance of these strata. Largely Apollonian patriarchy and the cult of the fathers versus matriarchal mother goddesses. The Aryan elite who saw feminine and telluric plebeians or pelasgians with derision and depicted them as the Python tamed by Apollo. Romans even had a term of derision for the fatherless and low-caste of 'terrae filius' (as opposed to divus filius). The European spirit and Tradition is mostly Roman, and America broke away from that in favour of a 'New Israel' as our monarchs struggled with the Church and instating a full version of that Roman Tradition again.The semitic Christianity uses guilt and sin, while for Graeco-Rome, nudity and sexuality was no big deal at all and public.>return to healthier modes of living would entail a faith that does not view the body as shameful, The presumption of equality between man and woman, the veneration of the child as sacred, are all Christian characteristics derived from the mother cults (bride of christ) in the Med absorbed by Christianity, even preserving their prayers, spiritual disposition and guilt-ridden ethic. So yes, it is a plague and it has empowered women as the ultimate spiritual arbiters.
>>533172024I didn't like The Golden Pavilion at all. I will check out the notes you've mentioned.
>>533183212Remember Romans exiled their Etruscan king and waged several wars taming the gynaecocratic civilisations under them and putting them under true patriarchy, that is, the law of the patres.Etruscans, like Jews, had a mother goddess and made women so important that men took their name from the mother, not father. Similar degeneracy in Egypt, where women ran government and men suckled infants after the priest revolt of the 21st Dynasty, where Isis came to prominence. A priest revolt against the king like Christianity. Abrahamism is the imposition of a bridal mentality onto men, so men must behave like guilty virgins and even not drink in some instances (Temperance, Islam). Part of patriarchy is the absolving of sexual guilt, since guilt is a woman's mentality.The right keeps failing because the 'bride of Christ' mentality makes us flee sexual culture, rather than shaping it and fusing it with our values. I like shibari for this reason, it is aristocratic and a formal martial art with customs and etiquette of lord and servant. I believe in fides and pietas, to the lord, that is, the male patriarch, as it was in Europe thanks to Rome and the patronage that even involved sex continuing after manumission. No such thing as 'consent' or 'rape of a slave existed', especially for a monarch.The jew says 'you delighted in your nudity. we tore this great edifice down and taught you shame'What do we get? Blackmailed politicians and character assassination via feminine sexual guilt. No lord, king or monarch is complete without his concubines.
>>533163105>Even I open doors for women, allow them to enter cars first, and lend them an arm when crossing the street as a compromise with the world, but inside I am telling them to eat shit.KEKYPOOOOO BASED BASED BAAAAAAAASED
>>533183151Sure, he was "gay" in the dull sense you retards use the word, but what that really means is Sick, he was a man sickened by a spiritual disease, and he sought to develop healthier aesthetic and artistic expressions to overcome this sickness.It was absolutely Bad, and he knew that, and that's why he wasn't as open or engaged in it as the people around him were.He is the Anti-Faggot, who sought to overcome his degeneracy.
>>533183294The church is the 'bride of christ'. Jesus advocates bridal ἑαυτὸν ἐκένωσεν(heautòn ekénōsen, Philippians 2:7:) ‘he emptied himself’.Before Christianity came to predominance, the Isis cult was prevalent in the area, which was a matriarchal cult a la Cleopatra. In Egypt after the 21st dynasty the priests revolted and Isis became more important than Osiris. Then it became a matriarchal society where women ran politics and men nursed infants at home. The female ruler justified the male ruler, who only derived power from her.The epithet for Isis was Panthea (lit. all-goddesess, but actually means all-mother). In Graeco-Rome there was always conflict between solar and masculine patricians and mother-cult (Demeter, Isis, Astarte etc) and feminine plebeians. Rome famously conquered many matriarchal cultures and put them under true patriarchy, the patres or patricians, from Etruria, to Nubia to Egypt and Jerusalem and more. Christianity was the great revolt and revenge of this substratum.When Christianity came to predominance, it absorbed all of the Isis cult centres, literally replacing icons of Isis and her baby with Mary and her baby. You can google it. It also fit Isis' prayers. They retrofitted panthea to judaic cosmology as 'panagia' or 'all-holy', as the 'highest created thing'.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panagia
>>533183217>were always intended to be. Can you expand? Why would he intend to do that.
>>533183294>The jew says 'you delighted in your nudity. we tore this great edifice down and taught you shame'>endless broken, noseless statues with roman execution device enscribed in talmudic fashion
>>533163105Woman-hate threads are Jewish and all you faggots fall for it every time.
>>533183348Good effortposts
>>533183165>>533182962Look at you, you illiterate fucking pillowbiter. Whimpering like your mother about how writing, in his own words, autobiographical works, about spilling your seed to totally isn't gay.At no point did I compare him to Wilde, you half-learned rentboy. What I did do was note that the painting he described himself jerking off to had been a motif in gay subculture since the late 1800's.
>>533163105Gay man didn't like women, ground breaking stuff
>>533183212There should be some healthy veneration of the Female form too though. Modern femininity is a sickness, but classical femininity is very noble, and we shouldn't like misogyny corrupt our ability to pursue healthier expressions of both Femininity and Masculinity. Likewise children are an embodiment of purity, and should be respect as such and molded into stronger men and women as a consequence of trying to preserve the inherent nobility of their birth.Indeed Ancient Greek and Rome were both started by Aryan bloodlines, and the more diluted this composition became the more it let room for deterioration. Christianity fuels to will of the weak and lower classes, but in reality these lower classes shouldn't even be included in a higher society to begin with, and this was the essence of Eugenics and Nietzsche desire for the Higher Man.A race of strong willed individuals, who don't need slaves, and can survive on their merits alone, that is the kind of ideal we have to strive for.>>533183294The problem with the Romans is that they could not discern which from which. Frisian society was ultimately governed by Male Leadership, but they did have the existence of the Priestess class, or Burgmaidens, which was a highly venerated role revered for their vestal nature and wisdom, and which later inspired the priestess of Artemis, and then Christian Nuns.Indeed Women are secondary, but they still have a revered position in Nature, and there is still a degree of push and pull in their dynamic with men that is healthy.Your observations on shame in the modern world being used for blackmail is very poignant, but it may also hinder our ability to conceptualize healthier forms of expression.The problem with Mishima and Nietzsche and other related characters, is that their lack of reverence for women leads them to equally as unhealthy manifestations. Mishima battles homo eroticism all his life, and Nietzsche dies alone and insane in some dark room.
>>533183627I didn't say it wasn't gay you illiterate fool, I said he was sick, and that his expression of his homo-eroticism in art was ultimately a means to try and cultivate within himself a healthier expression.>>533183348The problem is in oscillating between two extremes. Matriarchal and overtly patriarchal (Though the Man should lead) are both malformations. The truth is in balance, which entails a male leadership role, but the unhealthy hatred of women will lean too far in one direction or another.
>>533183341Retard, he was literally known to visit gay bars and had multiple gay lovers at the same time.How is that trying to cure a "disease"?Furthermore being a faggot is not even a disease, you closeted faggots are literally the worst because you twist logic more than kikes.>>533183911Now I know for an absolute fact you've never actually read his books, but some of his quotes about masculinity.Absolute retarded closeted faggot larping as an intellectual who dislikes fags.Well done.
>>533183911Furthermore, Mishima had same-sex desire. He lived in a society where that couldn’t be fully expressed, so he constructed a “mask” (marriage, public persona)His art became the space where that hidden self could exist, his art is his expression of his inner conflict, it was never a cure but an expression of inner tension.If you think he was ashamed of fucking young boy bootyhole, you're the most retarded nigger ape alive.If anything, Mishima isn’t trying to become “healthy”, instead he’s trying to make his contradictions beautiful and absolute.So, retard, pick up a book and actually READ, fucken nigger.
>>533184037Faggotry is absolutely a disease, nobody is born gay.I've read Sun and Steel, and I think it's great. There are many elements of his philosophy and behavior I disagree with, but ultimately I admire any man who strives to overcome the sickness of the modern world, and cast off the shackles of his own weakness.The cure he was trying to find is a healthier expression, and likely he failed, and went through outlets like gaybars to try meet that demand of expression.But as the tranny he hung around with stated, he wasn't the same as the rest of them, he was there for a different reason. There is no twisting of logic here, it's simply saying he was fallible and sick, just like everybody else, and if anything I admire his work because he didn't settle for his sickened expression, he strove to develop more discipline and a healthier mentality.
>>533184222Nice Trips, however...Marriage and healthy social and traditional life are not a mask, they are the substance of life itself. His inner tension was born out of his own emasculation in his younger years, and likely an extension of the emasculation of the Japanese people following WWII. In the absence of healthy expression, the deconstruction of traditional culture and identity, and even the demonization of healthy role models, you get young men who are naturally frustrated, have no outlet for their emotions, no auxiliary in art or the surrounding world to define them, and he naturally feel insecure and emasculated. From there every manner of unhealthy behavior may follow, especially since modern industrial culture actively encourages destructive behaviors instead of healthy ones.Why do you think we have so many self identified gay and trans people in the modern age? Couples with all the mental health rates and social isolation, feelings of alienation etc, all while the modern culture venerates Gay and Trans people as "Prideful", these people looking for a sense of security and outlet for their natural emotions will pursue these behaviors, because they have nothing else to guide them.Mishimas work recognized this, at least in what I have read, and that is why he strove through art, the cultivation of the body and the mind, to overcome what of these things that he could.
>>533184281Yeah, you're a retard.In fact if Mishima was alive to read what you posted he would fucking slice you in half, lol.It is more than obvious at this point that you're a closeted gay that hates himself.
>>533183752>>533183911Some good points, but the fact is that slaves still exist, regardless of if you need one or not. They take over when left to their own devices. This is not the mentality of the greats, but something else.I did not denigrate women. I was speaking to a young woman who was intelligent enough to speak fluent Latin with me at length. The moment I mentioned some of the same things I've told you, she immediately started talking down to me about equality and 'not denigrating one-half of the human race'. And citing how all are equally Roman, like the Gracchi (peasant revolt, executed by Rome, cited by French Revolution socialists) and Cicero (executed by Rome).I simply replied 'Lol.' She prompted me for dialogue with Quamquam ridentem dicere verum quid vetat?. Found in his Satires (Book I, satire i, line 24), 'What stops us from telling the truth with a laugh?'I just replied with Aeneas' line from Virgil when he laments a mural of the fall of Troy: Sunt lacrimae rerum et mentem mortalia tangent ('Here (flow my) tears for things (that we have suffered) and things that die move (my) mind')She also said to me 'salve frater' (hello brother), I responded with 'salva domina' (title of honour for aristocratic maiden). She rebuked and corrected me with 'salve frater' again.Whose dignity is being offended again? And who was raised to domina?No, my mother, nor the aristocratic women I have been with, nor Queen Victoria who advises whipping feminists, feel demeaned. They feel elevated, you are simply given to modernist prejudice, and understand not the principle of Tradition, which means orienting your Being to something pure. It is a conflict mentality where women oppose the masculine, rather than see it as their strength, as real women do, that you have internalised. I am the harmony guy, that means imposing form on women, and no less.
>>533184474>Marriage and healthy social and traditional lifeIt's so fucking funny you mentions this, while spam posting graeco-roman philosophy towards male body. But you see, this is where I see through you and your pseudo-intellectual babble.You nitpicked the most faggoty.homo erotic elements from one culture, but that's what you faggots usually do, while completely ignoring that in ancient greece and rome, women and men lived in separate houses, one house was only for men and one house was only for women, they only met to fuck and procreate.In fact for them, even the terms we use daily like gay, bi or lgbqt whatever, they never had them, they used the word "eros" which was just love, love between women, love between men and love between boys, they NEVER discriminated, for them all love was normal.Marriage only became a thing because of the catholic influence to promise a man his woman because at times men would not work unless they had a guarantee of a sex life with a woman.Stop projecting your own demons unto everything and then nitpicking small bits from cultures justifying your own self-hatred.tl;dr get fucked retard
>>533184484There is no genetic trait that determines homosexuality.There is no precedent in nature or the animal kingdom for homosexuality.There isn't a single society in history which practiced homosexuality towards a positive result.Our healthy and dysfunctional modern society sees more gays and trannies then at any other period in history, why?Cope all you want with this fact, or project onto me whatever you'd like, but the fact remains, homosexuality is not healthy or moral. You ought to treat yourself with more respect.
>>533184657>>>533183752>>>533183911It is about principle and form. You are not ready nor pure like me. YWNBAPatrician You are too squeamish to do what needs to be done, and have not correctly analysed our present landscape before urging prudence and caution: >>533178096Rome has been called, 'that jealous guardian of paternal right'. It is a highly patriarchal, aristocratic and masculine civilisation. In fact, its name is the Greek word for strength, whether you say Rome or Roma.Ῥώμα or Rhṓma, is the Doric counterpart to Attic Ῥώμη, (Rhṓme) preserving the shorter final alpha typical of the Dorian tongue; a name that already carries the force of strength or might in its root, and therefore suits the city’s own self-knowledge as embodied virile power. The reverse of Roma is 'Amor' 'love'. It was destroyed by the feminine cult of agape or bridal love and eros. Ironically, for E Michael Jones' preening, he is in the cult of Eros.Femininity is the predomination of nature, Masculinity is the predominance of spirit. The Romans did not destroy the feminine like the feminine did via Christianity to us, they did not ban it, they integrated it under the Father (a sacred title to Romans, hence Jesus' 'hate the father'). I am not the hater here, yet we cannot even begin without hand-wringing.In the older cosmologies the poles of Being are read as a hierarchic dyad: forma–materia, actus–potentia, yang–yin, puruṣa–prakṛti.Each is necessary; one is normative; both poles are required for the world to exist, yet only one is destined to rule.
>>533184718>YWNBAPatrician>picrel>>533183752>>>533183911The supernatural, self-sufficient and immovable source belongs to the masculine; the natural realm of genesis and flux belongs to the feminine. Hellenes named the summit ‘the One’ (τὸ ἕν, to hén), ‘in itself’ (αὐτὸ καθ’ αὑτό, auto kath’ hautó): what is of itself, by itself, and not by reference to anything else. In the Platonic stream ‘the One’ is often paired with ‘the Good’ (τὸ ἀγαθόν, to agathón), beyond being (ἐπέκεινα τῆς οὐσίας, epékeina tēs ousías); simple (ἁπλῶς, haplōs), self-sufficient (αὐτάρκες, autárkēs), lacking nothing.Pythagorean language adds limit (πέρας, péras) versus the indefinite dyad (ἀόριστος/ἄπειρος δυάς, aóristos/ápeiros dyás); the One is limit and measure, the dyad is the source of multiplicity.The statuary figure is ordered to εἶδος (eîdos, form) rather than whim, a visible answer to τὸ ἕν (to hén, the One) that sets measure to the ἄπειρον (ápeiron, the boundless).
>>533184718>Rome has been called, 'that jealous guardian of paternal right'.Apollo sets the right of primogeniture in Athens legal code.It stuck for millennia in the West via Roman legal code because the men were men and did not immediately start hand-wringing and apologising to mummy for being naughty.Say 'Thank you Apollo' or your mother will die in her sleep tonight.
>>533184657>vidrel
>>533184657>but the fact is that slaves still exist, regardless of if you need one or not.A healthy society would no allow for the existence of slaves. They all need to be deported back to their biogeographical places of origin. Not only are they low IQ and impulsive creatures, but they make us weaker by fostering dependence onto them for survival, when really we can do everything that they do for us ourselves.Women think with emotions, this is undeniable, but one essence of their rhetoric is correct in that they do have a valuable place in society, one that they have been poisoned against.I agree with almost everything you're saying, I'm just saying not to lose sight of womens role in the world. If we must impose form upon them, they must also impose aesthetics upon us, though aesthetics is ultimately secondary to form, or ancillary to form, you can't have one without the other.>>533184666Hey Satan, thanks for the reply.Yes, I said previously I disagreed with the Greeks on a lot of things, explicitly pederasty, but yes I also detest their homo eroticism as well where it manifests in a polluted light. However, the nuance you're ultimately failing to grasp is that I'm not dismissing everything they ever did on this basis alone, because I can also acknowledge where they did some things correct.>Something something baby and the bathwater.I personally venerate Germanic and Aryan culture more then any other, which Greece was an offshoot of, but far removed, and very diluted.Germanic culture consistently venerated the roles of Men and Women, and practiced Monogamy long before Christianity came along. Also the Germanic people didn't practice or worship pedophilia, and that is one of many reasons why they are superior.
>>533184701I never even said those things you imply, you fucking spambot retard.The real negativity comes from the repression, the guilt, the self-hatred and the judgement from others.Buddy, my little gay buddy, you. Look here, man. Am I the one that has a folder full of naked male bodies and sculptures? No, that's purely on you.No matter how much you pray the gay away, it won't work because nature decided to make your brain that way in which you are attracted to the male body, fortunately for me I do not have those problems, therefore I do not judge it.Wanna hear a secret that will blow your mind? Gay people always were and always will be, no matter how hard you try to Bushido your way out of this and do gimmicky mental gymnastics while having 2-3 logical fallacies every single time you post.Mishima never hid his homosexuality, let alone try to "fix" it, instead he made it absolute and beautiful with his artwork.Mishima was a based faggot like Mercury. And you dumbfuck telling me to cope? With what? Nigger every fucking post you made was pure cope out of a children's book, you infantile fucking wreck.
>>533181504>posts david, a kike hero presented as an AryanDavid was Aryan buddy. Israelis were white, and you can see this in the book how he is described, David was in fact ruddy.
>>533184718This is absurd. Christianity is Anti-Nature, Christianity did not impose femininity in this sense because it actively seeks to overthrow and demonize natural forms.Spirit is biology, spirit is nature, spirit is present in all things. Christianity and most poisoned thinking venerates abstractions above natural and observably consistent phenomenon. What you define as spirit is thus intangible, and therefor malleable and weak. It is not true spirit. This is what I do not respect in Roman and Greek culture, is this separation of Nature from Spirit.The Proto Frisians remain the most pure and spiritually sound promoters of Good and Morality, Truth and Order, Nature and Beauty. They did not set themselves above or below nature, but acknowledged the world precisely as it is.
>>533184992>Germanic culture consistently venerated the roles of Men and Women, and practiced Monogamy long before Christianity came along. Also the Germanic people didn't practice or worship pedophilia, and that is one of many reasons why they are superior.Again, false. The germanic tribes did not practice monogamy in our sense of the word, in fact monogamy was extremely rare and selective, most tribes did as the vikings and Scandinavian cultures did, they practiced huge winter orgies where everybody fucked everybody, nobody knew who the fathers were, so the entire small local community's elders took care and taught the young, while women did women stuff and men went out to raids and hunted. Some couples who only wanted to be with each-other practiced monogamy because it was their choice and their choice was respected by their small local community.But you were right about the pedo stuff, though. I will give you that. I can tell you're not a complete fucking retard but you have a long way to go my friend.
>>533185064Homosexuality is ultimately a manifestation of Shame and self hatred, it is not a healthy form of self expression. You hate your body, you hate the way God made you, you are ashamed likely from Christianity of your failure to live up higher ideals.Shame is meant to motivate you towards better behavior, thus homosexuals ought to be ashamed that they can find better ways of expression.>it won't work because nature decided to make your brain that wayNature would not select for a behavior that actively destroys organisms and reduces fertility, it is entirely a manifestation of unhealthy Judeo Talmudic and Masonic poison. There is zero evidence of Homosexuality being biological, you have zero evidence, once again >>533184701You cannot find a single example of a healthy society which was open towards homosexuals. There is zero basis for this anywhere in nature, and even if you aren't gay, you're actively encouraging unhealthy behavior in other people, and that ultimately makes you the biggest faggot on the planet.>No no, buttfuckery is totally okay and moral actually.Kill yourself.>>533185214>Brazilian>Thinks Jewish mutts are White
>>533184992Well, I'm sorry that rather utopian-socialist, biological reductionism, and nationalist French Revolution ideal is not reality.There are white slaves too, that is what socialist/nationalism is. Rome did not know itself as The West, it always knew itself as the world. The oikouménē and its saviour (soter) was a Roman/Greek concept belonging to Caesar and Pompey and even the Ptolemaic dynasty before it was ever stolen by Christians.Slavery was never primarily racial, Americans/Jews ruined it with that. It was spiritual. You have put matter (biology) over form, instead of integrating them.Rome knew the castes too, it was called ordines, it shaped the revival of Roman cult in the mediaeval 'orders'. I sometimes joke Cicero was 'not racist' because he had a black slave.>talking about women imposing stuff on us>he prefers to be the pegged bitch.gaaaaaaaaay.The aesthetics are form, or the masculine, hence why athletes changed into gods. You have not quite understood the principles. the feminine is unmeasured, limitless matter without definition. Aristotle talks at length about this.You either impose form and aesthetics on women, or you get Python, unlimited and indefinite chaos like this:>>533184890My final words are that a lot of men are not as squeamish as you, and this is a uniquely Western neurosis Western men must overcome. Gods speed to you and any anons who read along.>>533185215Ius Naturale of a mother cult. A common mistake for many modern neo pagans is nature worship, but the transcendence we associate with Christianity was in purer form in Olympian Hellenic cult; they invented the concepts. Evola has a paper on it tcalleed 'against the neo pagans'.https://libraryofagartha.com/Philosophy/Traditionalism/Julius%20Evola/Evola%20-%20Against%20the%20Neo-Pagans.pdfGraeco-Rome is our last touchpoint for a wider offshoot of Aryan Tradition, in purity, elevated to the world stage.Sorry, 4chan is chugging hard now .
>>533185314There is zero evidence for any of this, and you are an illiterate retard who is beyond the point of conversation if you actually believe this stupid crap.Every Germanic Tribes has robust marriage traditions, and the only people claiming otherwise are Jewish and Masonic opinion piece articles, and Christian priests revising the traditions and histories of people they hated and tried not to understand.
>>533172750Samefag. Kill yourself, transparent fucking retard.
>>533163105>>533163105women are just more risk adverse than men and the average men is already ultra risk adverse.some activities have inherent riskit s bizarre people are brainwashed to think both sexes would be the same in a dimorphous species one sex gets pregnant and the other does not.that said women complaining about men at the top and glass ceilings when they don t take a fraction of the risk is not a societal threat. hypergamy is
>>533182532>swede>an expert on faggots and artHilarious
>>533185457Yes, the Mores took slaves, and this was immoral. Slavery is not moral, and does not have a precedent in nature. This is a Jewish Merchant ideal.Mythological figures like Gods were not gods in the Christian sense, at least among the Germanic traditions, they were historical figures venerated for their great feats.>You either impose form and aesthetics on women, or you get Python, unlimited and indefinite chaos like this:You cannot create or impose any kind of form upon nature which does not already have a precedent in nature. You cannot create something out of nothing. Everything in reality that has the potential to exist is an extension of natural form.>neo pagansNeo Paganism was created by Freemasons, it is retarded and malformed. "Pagan" itself is a Christian term, and our ancestors did not define themselves by these terms.I would recommend some sources outside of the Mediterranean mindset, most notably the OLB (Oera Linda Book).
>>533171806It's just one of the more tame analogies for their behaviour.>the least degenerate thing they might be doingAs such I'm reluctant to try think of more examples; not that I'm an expert on homosexual deviancy, but you can replace the boot with some aids infected gay bottom's distended unwashed anus.>they are not well
>>533185733>outside of the Mediterranean mindset,Try learning it first.I am familiar. The Oera Linda Book is commonly held as a modern fabrication.The problem with Celtic-Germanic paganism? Its glory is too distant and its writings too sparse, and it ignores the actual imperial integration and Romano-European Tradition. Nothing is left that could actually hold a polity together. We are returned to the forest. But Rome created many many empires and revivals after. Roman Tradition is the intact Aryan custom, it is ours, and could be reinstated tomorrow if we willed it.Germanics invigorated the Roman ideal better than Italians because they were a young race and more vigorous. Germanic history: >>533183294It is known Celtic and Germanic metaphysics had holes that were filled in by 'patchworks' from Rome, or else odd modern creations and masonic offshoots.>Slavery is not moral, and does not have a precedent in nature. As I said, not natural, but spiritual. You have already Christianised; Anglo common law derives from the right of life and death of Roman patrician religion and the Aryan cult of the hearthfire. You have already cut off the masculine by appealing to mother cult ius naturale. I said 'spirituality', I invoked the sacrum known to Rome.Christian language was political radical language. Originally it was Romans speaking in the language of ius sacrum and fas or nefas. The traditional Aryan world knew divine kingship; it knew the bridge between the visible and the invisible, that is, initiation; it knew the two Royal paths towards the transcendent, heroic action and contemplative ascent; it knew the mediations of rite and fidelity, it knew the ordering principle of ius sacrum and the ordines, and it knew the earthly sign of this higher sovereignty, the Empire.> cannot create or impose any kind of formYou have put matter first, via extra steps. I gave you direct quotes from Plato, Aristotle and the Pythagoreans' language. Take it up with them.
>>533185733>Neo Paganism was created by FreemasonsYet you follow all of its principles and ask me to throw away the Nordic-Aryan intact Tradition of Europe. I'm just not gonna throw it away while you barely understand half my posts haha. im just not. Hail the Germanic Roman Imperium, plebeian! Hail Barbarossa! Kaiser and Augustus!>what does the reich in 'third reich' mean>why is hitler doing roman triumphs with victory sigils?We are being attacked from all angles, and so we should not become enemies with D&C but support one another. There is no one-type that must be imposed. Rome never forbade your gods and supported them with temples. So you are always welcome. One man cannot do everything, so I will do what I do best and you do what you do best. it is Christian to impose a 'one-size fits all' shoe.
>>533186311You already broke from it American; no wonder you cannot comprehend it and pollute it with the common 'Common Sense' of your masonic forefathers.
>>533186311Just ignore him, he is either trolling, an absolute fucking retard or the most probably option, he masturbates to trannies and when he cums he hates himself so much he has no other way to cope other than to project his insecurities unto others.The biggest haters of faggotry are psychologically the biggest closeted homos, it's literally proven by science. It's the same with a lot of pedo hunters, who end up being exposed as pedos themselves.It's a psychological defense mechanism, scream so much unfounded illogical hate at something, so nobody can ever accuse you of it, it is a sign of repressed self-hatred."No I am not that, look how much I showed my visibly physical manifestation of hatred towards it"One of the oldest copes in the book.
>>533167437ThisHigh IQ = GaySimple rule of nature
>>533186176>The traditional Aryan world knew divine kingshipDivine might be overstating it. It was more of a mystic thing. The idea of god-kings isn't Aryan. Case in point the gods of Hinduism, extremely distant offshoots , are mortal and martial. Nordics had Ragnarok. Not even their gods were immortal.
>>533186176>The Oera Linda Book is commonly held as a modern fabrication.That doesn't mean much these days. Not only are there numerous linguistic experts who claim quite the contrary, but the numerous archeological inferences the book makes were simply not known in the 1860s, such as the existence of the Minnoan Civilization, and the descriptions of the 4.2ka archeological event.>Its glory is too distant and its writings too sparseAgreed, most of the information was destroyed by Christianty, but a lot of evidence still exists, such as the existence of the Urekehu people in Polynesian history, the Wa'Gas described by Lucy Thompson, and the genetic remnant cultures like the Kalash and Iranian genetic subgroups which clearly descend from ancient Aryans. As well as the genetic testing done on King Tutahnkamun, which shows a 70% match to Western European halopgroups. The best we can do is piece things together, but ultimately, the truth still exists in our Blood, and that is what they fear most.They could destroy every trace of our existence, they still could not alter our biological proclivity.>Nothing is left that could actually hold a polity togetherGenetics can and must. You cannot maintain a society without Eugenics. Roman history has been diluted and bastardized, even Tacitus describes the decadence of Rome, it was far from an ideal culture, though it has many admirable points.>Germanics invigorated the Roman ideal better than Italians because they were a young raceNot really. The Goths descended from the Scythians, the Saxons were said to have intregrated with the Scythians from the Macedonians, but they were all fundamentally Aryan, simply reunifying with their cousins they split off from long ago.>or else odd modern creations and masonic offshoots.Again, I agree, but that is because most of their written work and archeological records were destroyed. Masons are just trying to capture the minds of people returning to their biological selves.
>>533163188>He was literally a faggot./thread
>>533187204>Romans and Japanese are Aryan in some formlolkQuestionable whether Aryans ever even had the concept of an emperor, considering they did not build monolithic empires. They were a tribal and fairly democratic bunch.
>>533187009>>533187009Why do you keep inserting your fingers where they were not asked for, nor wanted, only to come off as hopelessly deviated, illiterate and incorrect: >>533183294 (You)Japan is the last polity with an Aryan-style god-emperor, or any emperor at all, Augustus was accorded numen while living, with a temple dedicated to it by Tiberius. Numen is a trait exclusive to the gods, θεῖος ἀνήρ (theios anēr, god man) is the Greek accorded him. At no time did worship of past divi occur to the exclusion of the living emperor. Moreover, this is explicit in the patrician cult of the hearthfire, in the rig veda with 200 prayers, as India had its own aryan god-king 'god in human form', which you must pre-emptively denigrate. Famously, Hellenic kings were divine an Augustus was worshipping in Rome and outside it. no idea of historical context, just wiki-level analysis. now shoo subversive.>>533187223>Roman history has been diluted and bastardized, even Tacitus describes the decadence of Rome, it was far from an ideal culture, though it has many admirable points.Literati held an opinion that was contradicted by most Romans. You have no idea what you're tatlking about.>Genetics can and must. You cannot maintain a society without Eugenics.Shoo with your subversive materialism. Obsessed. You can't even tame women. Why are Germanics such autistic cucks?
>>533187304>Questionable whether Aryans ever even had the concept of an emperor, considering they did not build monolithic empires. They were a tribal and fairly democratic bunch.Fucking Lmao. Is that why most Roman scholarship books apologise for Christianising the field now?Please stop @ing me schizos. I can't reply anyway, 4chan is chugging hard and you all deliberately reject knowledge and form.
>>533186176>As I said, not natural, but spiritual.There is no spirit without nature. Everything that you are is because of your genetics. A Nigger is biologically a Nigger and cannot be anything else, and you are biologically of your own genetic group, and you cannot alter that fact.This is why Greek and Roman society fell, they lost sight of the real world in favor of abstractions without tangible correlation to the natural world, laws without any precedent in nature. We are fundamentally of this earth, and nothing you can say or do will ever change that.Initiation is a Masonic and Khabbalistic ideal, it is insanity codified, and detracts from natural form. The jew hates what he his, the Masons betrays what he is, these creatures despise nature and their natural forms, thus they create trans humanism, and attempt to circumvent natural laws.>>533186311I don't follow any of its principles, I read history and archeology, and I learn from that. I study nature, and the world that Wralda has created.My gods were not gods, they were historical figures, Odin was a military commander, not a god.You are right in one sense though, there is no one size fits all shoe, but there are parallels and symmetry in nature, and we are meant to learn from this. You cannot create something from nothing, and nothing you think, feel, or act upon ever arises out of the void.>>533187009The Rigveda was inspired by Aryan influence, the subsequent Vedas are all derivative but the Rigveda consistently describes the Aryans in character. Some of its principles are not entirely false, it's just that indians reworked it as they began to suffer genetic decay.Also Nordic gods were not gods, as I've said, they were historical figures. It wasn't until Christian Priests recontextualized their traditions that Odin was conflated with Wralda and given the name All Father.
>>533187418Genetics matter. A society cannot be maintained from low IQ and biologically disparate components. You're spazzing out now because you cannot reconcile biological facts.A Nigger raised in Rome cannot be a Nigger because he is biologically not of Roman blood. If you agree with this fact, then you have to admit that biological form takes precedence. If you disagree with this fact, then you would have to accept Niggers and Spics into your society, and claim that they are just as Roman as the Romans itself simply because they parrot their ideals.
>Interviewer: Well, regarding love, I feel like you address it quite a bit, Sensei, specifically homosexuality. We tend to approach such things with a strong physiological aversion. I can't help but feel that you see a sort of perfected form of love in it. Is that the case?>Mishima: Not necessarily, but I mean, regarding the form of love... I always think that when it becomes socially sanctioned, it ceases to be pure. As I mentioned earlier, love, for example, is talked about so much in society nowadays, in weekly magazines, in women's magazines. And when people believe they possess that kind of public, righteous love, naturally, that love... you know, it just fits perfectly into the mold society has created. It's a ready-made product. It's love sold at a supermarket. But with homosexuality, there's the aspect that it is forbidden, or that society views it with aversion...>Mishima: Because there is that sense of fear, I've written with the idea that, in that respect, it can exist as a pure form of human love. Lately, however, I don't necessarily think that way anymore. This is because homosexuality itself has become quite normalized recently, and it's no longer looked at in that way as much, you see. When that happens, highly impure forms begin to mix into homosexuality itself, and that sense of isolation fades, and gradually it loses that quality. Now, that may be a good thing for homosexuals, but for literature, it gradually becomes less interesting. Literature always tries to find purity within things that are unaccepted, things people dislike, things that are loathed or ostracized. By doing so, it attempts to uncover the true nature of humanity.>Interviewer: It certainly does have a somewhat deliberate way of exposing human vice, doesn't it.>Mishima: Yes, it deliberately exposes vice, from a conventional standpoint. Oe does that quite a lot, you know. Kenzaburo Oe, I mean.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFYoWcsBASM&t=273s
>>533187468Augustus was an initiate of Eleusis and vacated the Senate of non-initiates. Emperors did not receive royal titles such as basileus or rex before becoming initiated even when in govt. His deathbed words allude to Greek tragedy or Awakening doctrine. Please kys materialist kike. >>533187418>Augustus was worshipping*worshippedAve Caesar! Bye mentally ill materialists.
>>533187588>Genetics matter. A society cannot be maintained from low IQ and biologically disparate components. You're spazzing out now because you cannot reconcile biological facts.>A Nigger raised in Rome cannot be a Nigger because he is biologically not of Roman blood. If you agree with this fact, then you have to admit that biological form takes precedence. If you disagree with this fact, then you would have to accept Niggers and Spics into your society, and claim that they are just as Roman as the Romans itself simply because they parrot their ideals.>i.4pcdn.>org/pol/17757>80818585241>.jpg
>>533187664I'm not a materialist, I'm simply pointing out biological facts that you find uncomfortable, evident by your inability to refute them. Your justifying Abrahamic and Masonic initiation rituals as somehow being able to circumvent biological reality.Can you initiate a Lion? Can you initiate a Wolf? A bear? A rock? No? Why not? Could it be because these animals and objects have an innate physical reality that cannot be circumvented with mere wishful thinking? You can't turn a rock into a wolf, you can't turn a wolf into a nigger, and you can't turn a nigger into a Roman. No power of alchemy can grant you this ability, because you are, fundamentally, an organism of a particular type, and you will not ever be able to alter your genetics.
>>533187468Odin literally means the one, symbolically same as Logos or the Monad.You are so fucking stupid it's kinda crazy.The Scandinavian Gods were literally worldly energies that comes from the different planets, same with the Greek or roman pantheon of Gods symbolizing different planets but turned into stories of heroes for the normie cattle as yourself who cannot comprehend the world in any other way, lol.
>>533187783>Muh symbolsSymbols, or rather cultures, arise out of the genetic proclivity of a group. You cannot have culture without an agent to express it.If you alter the genetic composition of a nation, you alter it's culture, and subsequently its symbols.Had niggers been around at the start of Romes creation, it either wouldn't exist, or would be very very different from how we know it today.Likewise society functions today from the genetics of Whites, without whom this civilization would not exist. You cannot outrun nature, it is all around you, it is you, you are it.
