Imagine in 20 years when these "nihilist" find themselves childless, seen as creepy and beaten up by migrants in cheap nursing homes.Hell is waiting.
DUDE, CHAOS *draws sigil on paper* BRING FORTH TO ME A REAL FEMALE WITH FEMALE PARTS *dances around in a graveyard at midnight* ALLOW ME GREAT POWER *shoves banana up ass* IN THIS MOMENT I AM EUPHORIC
You got a problem with wizardry?You're in the wrong fucking neighborhood for that!
>>533178721your /x/ thread dried up and now you make this one. how long until you start doing it?
>>533178721>Hell is waiting.Sounds like a personal problem
>>533178721Who's this fool?He dares to play at mastery over of Kek's domain?
>>533178721I don't have an explanation for TAA but as a former Edgy Atheist I have had too many strange & supernatural experiences to be able to convince myself there isn't something more.Experiences including:- Detailed precognitive dreams- Detailed dreams including succubi (they are always bodily decayed zombie tr00ns with penises, and they are extremely disgusting).- Detailed dream where Satan came to me in the guise of a Catholic priest, and said the lord's prayer but refused to finish it and just started repeating "forever and ever" in a loop ad nauseum. Refused to finish with Amen and seemed to become increasingly pissed off at me and screaming "and ever and ever" at me until out of desperation I asked God to save me and he pulled me out of the dream. Woke up with sheets so drenched in sweat it was like I had gotten directly in bed from the shower without toweling off.- Detailed auditory "hallucinations" of myself. I sometimes belch while shitting if I ate too much. Heard what sounded exactly like my own belching from the next room (I live alone).- Hounded by the number 33 everywhere. See it multiple times a day, frequently when I happen to see the time but in other contexts.I got extremely confused by this and briefly thought it was a sign to convert to Christianity. I started saying the Lord's prayer etc. but this did not improve things. I started being woken up in the middle of the night by what felt like powerful electric bolts going through my brain. It got worse the longer I tried to be Christian and to the point where it became a like a standing wave of static electricity in my head that began even before I fell asleep and would keep me awake.Dismiss me as schizo all you like, I can't ofcourse provide evidence for any of this & I wouldn't believe it if I saw some other retard Harry Potter larping on a Canadian Fly Fishing forum. But I know what I've been experiencing and it is certainly some form of spiritual attack.
>>533178721They saw how much pussy "chaos magick" got Styx. Chicks love that stupid shit. The good thing is it doesn't take 20 years to see side effects as Styx ruined his life in only 10.
>>533178721From Libre Null:>Then he begins his war dance while an assistant, if he has one, continues to beat the rhythm, apply the scourge, or dischargefirearms.>Martial music may be played by some machine. As he dances wildly to his god he chants:>Io Horus Horus!>Horus to me come!>GEBURAZARPE!>Thou art me Horus!>I am thee Horus!>This he continues until the god taketh him into an ecstacy [sic]imagine this fat fuck literally wallowing on the ground saying this gay shit lmfao magic is so fucking gay
>>533178721Atheism is boring, there's no magic thinking, no spectacles, no life. That's why many atheists turn their lack of faith into communism, science, philosophy, humanism, money worship, etc because many still want a religion to make their life purposeful instead of embracing a true atheistic void.
>>533178721>supernatural
>>533179598https://archive.org/details/manwhoinventedhi0000lewihis kike doctor after WW1 when he got gassed a little told him that. the kikes got to him then, brainwashing him with that bullshit. they puppeted his ass from that point on. then they kept him filled with cocaine, heroin, meth, and whatever else they could find.https://archive.org/details/blitzeddrugsinth0000ohlehis blood was jelly at the end.
>>533179457>Atheism is boring, there's no magic thinking, no spectacles, no lifeTrue, it's just an opinion about the existence of God or gods.
>>533179148A hail Mary or the Lord's prayer is relieving. Jesus is a nice reminder of the Good that is watching over us.
>>533179148>I started being woken up in the middle of the night by what felt like powerful electric bolts going through my brain. It got worse the longer I tried to be ChristianWell maybe imagine how the demons feel feel now you suddenly turned your back on them and you might realise why they torment you. Sounds like it worked too..
>>533178721if you believe in nothing you will believe anything. banana man was always a retard and a grifter.
>>533178721Just goes to show you it was never about rejection of the super natural but rather just wanted to have gay sex which explains the exclusive aggression against Christianity.
>>533179148Ive had the electric shocks before too. Have you ever seen the Matrix Code appear before you?
>>533181031>it was never about rejection of the super naturalRight? It's just the rejection of God or gods, a specific supernatural, rather than the idea as a whole
Chaos magick is generally what atheists go to once they want to become spiritual. It’s more about manifestation and self promotion rather than submission to a higher power. It’s no different than who they were before the magick shit; an unwillingness to worship God. I read Liber Null in my 20s. At a point through the book it seemed like it was getting into demonology shit and I began to wonder if all the manifestation crap was in some way fucking with demons which were about to make my life a living hell
>>533179148go to the neurologist , seriously.
>>533180705It sounds like you're making this argument that once you convert to Christianity you become a "target" and that's why you start being fucked with. That never made any sense to me. I've never ever had a single bad or questionable experience follow from praying directly to God (no I'm not brown/muslim).>>533181192No I've never seen Matrix code or had any visual hallucination-like experiences.>>533182098Can a neurologist explain why these experiences went away when I stopped saying the Lord's prayer? Or why I had detailed precognitive dreams? No they're probably just going to give me some pill to make me too retarded to notice paranormal experiences.
>>533183897Yes, most likely
>>533178721I think I started with this one. I picked chaos magick because you need not summon spirits, so it's good for those unsure. Not much to say, it's a beginner friendly system that builds on as you grow as a mage, reading the books several times makes you nootice more snd better, so you become better, also some of these books spin in such a way expertise opens up the books. I'm not a chaos mage nowadays tho. Ask me silly things
>>533179148Got conned, huh? Try this, open yourself to, and listen to this pic with your consciousness. Report how you feel
>>533181845We weren’t created to grovel and worship. That’s for shitapes and jews. We were created to do the work. We find god by creating.
>>533185038That does nothing for me. At any rate I have zero interest in "magick" as I believe that it boils down to bargaining with supernatural beings and striking a bargain with low information and from a weak negotiating position is foolish.
>>533185144It's no bargain, I'll explain, it's a yantra, it allows to connect to a certain plane of existence to absorb its energy, so this energy would be either good feeling or bad feeling, depending on how you feel I can explain your troubles with Christian religion... Or rec you a thing to look into. You sound scared, is a demon touching your bussy?
>>533178721Chaos Magick is nothing short of charlatanry wrapped in generous amounts of comedic supernatural quackery, and most of the "chaos magician" writers are retarded deadbeat boomers bored of life.AOS is the only one that is even remotely interesting to read, and thats because he never really mentioned Chaos Magick nor genuinely thought it could be used as a means to obtain Gnosis.>t. ex-Chaos Magician of 10 years
>>533185247Think "Quake Slipgate" but for energy to pass.
>>533185247>You sound scared, is a demon touching your bussy?It seems to be trying.
>>533185410While I cannot help you, I can rec to avoid organized religion, it's a death trap. Bad experiences from my side aswell. In any case, I've noticed dark energies seem to help me more than light ones, so I posted an example of where to get them from.
>>533178721It was always a binary option with Christianity and atheism being the options. If they choose anything else they are telling you what they believe and every other option is negative.>pagan - cringe super hero tails, and sacrificing animals and other things in a wasteful manner>wiccan - words are spells, I have a vagina>islam - i want to have sex with children and/or someone is raping me>hindu - pagan that is focus on filthBeing athiest means they can lie about things without breaking character. Everyone is religous but when you have no direction there is no telling where you will end up. Imaginary tulpa friend. Vaginal yeast beer. Drawing what you want, cumming on it. mindfullness.
>>533185317>t. ex-Chaos Magician of 10 yearsCare to tell us more about all this, pastanon?
tarot cards work as an inkblot test where there is hidden symbolism that the brain naturally 'hallucinates'. This could be 'chaoss magic' in the sense that if the cards are randomized there is an almost zero chance you will see a duplicate order in your lifetime.
I am an atheist and I recently experienced something that felt supernatural. And I don't know how it actually works. But I am still an atheist and I know it wasn't god that did it.
>>533185512Maybe the dichotomy isn't light/dark, but form and formless, and formless things want our attention because it lends them a means of obtaining a form.
>>533178721The banana up his ass opened his root chakraps atheism is for edgy 14 year olds rebelling against the religion their parents forced upon themthe simple fact is that there is more to life than what we perceive under our normal waking state of consciousness
>>533185669If you're curious: don't do organized religion, I'm positive they do black magick to those who join.
>>533178721The best chaos magicians are ai bots making cybersigils and deployed by governments to controll the narrative.
>>533185743No it was actually closer to eastern mysticism. Daoism and Zen. And you really don't need organized practice for those if you wanted to.
>>533178721it's just sub-100 IQ idiocracy behavior, none of these people have any actual critical thinking and understanding of the world which makes them sitting ducks for any retarded grift
>>533185711It's like this, I was in a spiritual like cult, with focus on hindu style chants, but for other deities like Biuddha, Jesus, etc, not only hindu. And I'm positive when you join a group, they shank you with magic. Same with Christian religion.
>>533185317you're an absolutely retarded cuntchaos magick is the complete opposite of what you saidchaos magick eliminates all the medieval quackery and all the bind/blind filters of magick and distills it to the most basic essence and structure that anyone can adapt and use easilyit wasn't even a thing when aos was around but he is considered the grandfather of it because he was one of the first to get rid of all the bullshit and distilled the workings to their simplest formshave you even read liber null you fucking stupid cuntkill yourself
>>533185818This is a dravidian yantra for dark dimension energy. >>533185038Aaiyyan FoundationI use some of their stuff, there's books and patreon and website.
>>533185872let's hear the coherent thoughts and see any evidence of that "not bullshit" that anyone can use easily, which should also make it easy to prove
>>533185830That's the humans natural urge towards religion. It gives you something to do while your alive. If you have trouble focusing your own energy you might be drawn to having someone else direct that energy. They probably are looking for donations.look into cults and how they work
>>533179148this is just stuff I get when I have high fever.You're not healthy. Why do you belch while shitting? Are you obese?Everything you posted is perfectly explainable. Like all deluded people, you're convinced weird dreams are prophetic, when they are obviously not.
>>533178882He's 6'7 and White with blonde hair and blue eyes, he can have any Black or Asian woman he likes, only White women are too critical to consider him as a mate.
>>533185743>>533185818you don't even need to join themchristians get lists of names to 'pray' forjews get lists of names to curseeither way if you aren't protecting yourself someone out there is probably trying something against you>>533185931read liber null and try it for yourself https://archive.org/details/peter-j.-carroll-liber-null-and-psychonaut-the-practice-of-chaos-magic-revised-a
>>533185943> Why do you belch while shitting? Are you obese?I just sometimes do. Overweight certainly but not obese.> Everything you posted is perfectly explainable. Like all deluded people, you're convinced weird dreams are prophetic, when they are obviously not.Are you saying that for my comfort or your own?
>>533185943>you're convinced weird dreams are prophetic, when they are obviously not.you're convinced that people can't have prophetic dreams, when they obviously canjust because you haven't experienced it yourself (you lack gnosis) doesn't mean it isnt real you stupid fucking hylic cunt
>>533186081I wanna hear your first hand experience with it, which like you said is easy so there should be plenty of.
>>533178721Don't you find that strange that /pol/ culture revolve arroung magicians? "Im pondering my orbs" ect...Everything make sens when you realise in the Midle ages people refered to kikes as magicians.This is fascinating to decifer all the psy ops we have been subjected to in real time.
>>533178971pol has better x threads than x. x threads just decend into schizzo rants with 0 continuity & every anon presenting his very specific nieche worldview as the real & only relevant one. youtube links are often jsut 5 hour videos of some retard filming himself scrolling a schizo website using a potato camera & talking into his potato microphone with a scratchy voice as though he just woke up. pol is more grounded & coheiseive.
>>533186178my experiences are for me and me onlythey wont ever prove anything to you so either fuck around and find out yourself or fuck off and kill yourself i really don't give a fuck you stupid fucking nigger
>>533185534No.>>533185872Pathetic pitiable wretch.Never (you) me ever again.
>>533178721Militant material atheism doesn't hold up so the smarter atheist types pivoted to simulation theory, and that's a backdoor to gnostic thought and the whole gamut of occult.
>>533178721fug, xtians were right, if you dont worship god you end up worshipping the devil by default no matter what you do.
Materialism is false so people naturally drift away from it.
>>533186170>>533186289>claims his belief is free of quackery>immediately starts blabbering about desert cult quackery and dodging the simplest questionsCrazy how the grift you wanna peddle is exactly like any quackery, but that's just what makes it true for you isn't it? The magic only works when you're on the margins of reality and reliability, aligning yourself with the very quackery you pretended to be against. Try being less gullible next time and develop some critical thinking. Worthless grifting subhuman full of hot air as usual.
>>533178721Then people need to up their game >Pic related
>>533186354> art is magic!> writes stupid comic book slopmid-gician
Aussie anon will be getting his sexual energy shield powers any second now and he'll show us what for.
>>533186286you mean theres more people on /pol/ and people cant samefag easily
Fuck censorship Fucking desktop posting seems like it is banned, only phonefags remain
>>533179201>Styxlol, how it started how its going. the devil always comes for his due.
>>533178721Chaos magick is such a stupid name for it. I've created sigils, done magick a lot. Never cared for the stupid name of chaos magick. They should just call it sorcery. It would sound cooler.
>>533186507And there it is, the book promises you immense sexual energy just as expected, that's where the main motivation is for these people.
>>533186523? I can post on desktop just fine. The captcha just takes longer.
>>533178721Evola was an atheist. Buddhists are atheists.
>>533186520>more people on /pol/lol no, even their /nobody generals/ that fill up quickly to 500 posts only have mental illness babble.
>>533185949>he can have any Black or Asian woman he likes,I don't think nigresses will still want the banana after it's been in his anus.
>>533186304>look at all these books i've never readstupid cunt
>>533185135This
>>533178721I told you niggers reddit nuGnosticism/nuwiccaism is the new atheism of the 2020sIt's the same exact cultural arc playing out again that atheism went through back then, except this time it's crystal rubbers instead of fedora tippers
These guys are contorting themselves into yoga poses to goon harder, always keep that mental image in mind whenever you hear about chaos magic.
>>533186437saying 'sieg heil' also banishes evil quite effectively.>inhale - sieg>exhale - heilrepeat until the jewish thoughts are no more.
>>533181192I had the brain zaps after i had to quit antidepressants cold turkey because the dog chewed the prescription for it, i went from 600mg of venlafaksin daily to 0 overnight. Anytime i even thought of looking left or right felt electricity zapping across my brain.
>>533186588>>533186710sexual energy is the most potent form of energy to create/manifest withhow do you think you were made?how do you think any of this existence was made?its nothing to do with gooning you fucking retarded monkey cuntthis is what happens when pearls are cast before swinefucking kill yourself
>>533186709gnosticism is based. nt jesus too told us to hate this world.
>>533186709What if we create nu inquisition to burn the heathens
>>533178721The thing is, there's no such thing as Atheism. All "atheists" are simply really confused pagans who hate Yahweh.That's how it's been for thousands of years.
>>533179457The supernatural can exist without a God. I don't acknowledge any God exists but I can't imagine that all evidence of the paranormal is fake. The issues Christians specifically seem to have (or maybe I'm just most familiar with them) is that they take any supernatural occurrence as evidence for their religion even if other religions could fit it as well, or there's no reason to assume it's evidence for any deity.
>>533185038only relevant sigil for our time. if you niggers would stop dabbling in all kinds of irrelevant stuff wed be more powerful by now.
>>533186810And there it is, I can understand why you were shy about your own personal experience when it's literally just a book of yoga poses and lite-BDSM with dumb religiosity sprinkled on top lol. I feel sorry for retards who actually fall for this quackery instead of developing an actual interest in behaviorism and cognitive science. You should practice lucid dreaming without any of the quackery surrounding it, now that's a really cool and enlightening experience.
>>533179598Odin archetype incarnated in Hitler
>>533186289>my experiences are for me and me onlyNice dodge, it's exactly what people say when they have zero experiences. ither you tell us or fuck off and stop pretending being Saruman
>>533185038I get distracted by the most obvious 'word' running diagonally (bottomleft-topright) and once that's out of the way there's an even more obvious GAY (topleft-mid), at which point i chuckle and get distracted by (and stuck on) the equjtyed or whatever that is again. Then i get bored and click on the captcha and write this, and by the time i'm finished writing the captcha has loaded (seriously, wtf is wrong with captcha today?).
>>533186942Just because you dont believe doesnt mean you hate. Why should i believe in something that hasnt shown itself? Having a book and finding locations in the book mean nothing when certain groups now would benefit from fabricating and keep religious larp going.
>>533186987>instead of developing an actual interest in behaviorism and cognitive science. You should practice lucid dreamingit's all the same shit you fucking retarded cunt
>>533179598
>>533187148Can you try making a coherent post? Maybe you have another gay book of yoga poses to post?
>>533187046either learn about it and find out for yourself or fuck off and stop pretending you don't have fomo
>>533181845>It’s more about manifestation and self promotion rather than submission to a higher power.moreso doing their own thing outside of gods will, according to thomas aquinas there is no truht, beauty or goodness in the world or in carna as such, or noone is true, good or beautiful, only by -participation- in those godly attributtes we give our life meaning, without god we are nothing & those demonic creatures such as the jews insist on having their own nihilistic world with their rules outside of gods mind, which ofc leads to total annihiliation.
>>533187227occultism is just psychology before it was called psychologyceremonial magic was psychodrama to alter your behavior through cognitive processesit's all cognitive sciencei do have another gay book for you not yoga poses this time but what do you think about antero allis book the eight circuit braini dont have a link this time but you can find it on annas archive
>>533187356>leads to total annihiliation.i thought that was fear, the little-death...
>>533187099>Why should i believe in something that hasn't shown itself?Let me tell you about the time that God came down to us in the form of a man named Jesus Christ...
>>533184962>I picked chaos magick because you need not summon spiritsWhy is the chaos magick symbol on the cover the star-disc of Ishtar, an ancient Babylonian demon?
>>533187465the little death is an orgasm and/or temporary ego annihilation
>>533179148>Hounded by the number 33 everywhereDefinitely notice that myself in day to day life. Seems to be more common when I'm struggling with hardship/under threat from people or circumstances. Eeriest example was in a charity shop that had a pot of those Chinese fortune sticks with numbers on them; out of curiosity I randomly picked one out, half expecting to get 33, and actually did, with the corresponding note 'You will not get what you want'. It freaked me out for the rest of the day. Also noticed that when I had a Christian phase with sincere prayer, bible reading and making an effort to abstain from my usual behaviour, I got a lot of dreams and sleep paralysis that involved all white/black humanoid type things that kind of leaned in or 'phased' through my bedroom door with just their heads to stare at me or occasionally entering the bedroom itself, and general dreams where it felt like some malevolent entity or energy was trying to get at me and only stopped by the Jesus prayer and imagining a 'barrier' keeping it away; along with the sensation of being picked up and something covering my mouth as if to suffocate. All stopped when I gave up praying. Some say it's demons attacking you for turning to Christ instead of your usual sinful life, but having heard a few accounts from Anons over the years like yours and mine, some part of me wonders if prayers and Christian types of thinking/behaviour actually summon these kinds of entities deliberately, but certain prayers also being able to repel them does confuse things a bit. That and other weird events in my life and my family's involving ufos and ghost stuff has me convinced there's definitely more to reality than the material we're told to believe, though whether Christianity is the truth I'm not so certain.
>>533178721This happens to a lot of Atheists later in their lives, Terrance mckenna, before his brain blew up, started going down the alchemy rabbit hole in a metaphysical way, he was an outspoken atheist who thought the universe could speak to him thorugh magic mushrooms. Banana bum man made a video a few months ago explaining how "new athiesm" as a movement kind of fell off into the deep end and mellowed out, and he's left with no where else to go pretty much. So he took what a lot of atheists obsess over and went beyond, and that is Nietzsches "God is dead" that secular people need to transcend beyond nihilism and start to get more creative as a human or you know, the abyss and all that. It's rather rare for atheists to just live and be happy.
>>533178721The library banned 1984To make room for Alphabet pornThis is what happens when you worship MolochSoon to be trending: Holodomor StomachBlue Blood families invented your movementAll events are used to increase government
>>533178721>OMG GUISE THE AHTIESTS ARE TURNING TO THE MAGICKS>It's just the bearded banana dildo man playing with cheap dice and LARPing as a wizardfake and gay
>>533187591does it lead to total obliteration as well? what if i just let it pass through me?
>>533187453If you had any actual interest in the topic you'd be researching and would have first-hand experiences with what you yourself described as easy. If you actually want to try inducing fomo on anyone then you must first have anything others fear missing out on instead of angrily posting seizure gifs because they are skeptical of your medieval quackery.Reminds me of that retarded spic who posted potato pics of a cup of water resting on a sigil claiming the water was moving in some way, that's as deep as you quacks go before losing interest.
>>533178971>>533186286/x/ spends most of its time discussing hollywood movies and pop cultureshit board
>>533184962>>533187566>Why is the chaos magick symbol on the cover the star-disc of Ishtar, an ancient Babylonian demon?also picrel
>>533187691Who's more annoying, /x/ or quantum of conscience?
>>533186596Well I can't post from desktop at all. And I haven't broke any rules, I rarely even post anything here. This shit is making 4chan leak elsewhere, I literally posted a meme to someone on WhatsApp because of this crap. And now this Loading button takes so long even on phone
>>533187674I've researched the topic plenty and yeah i do have first hand experiences, I have gnosisWow I've had lucid dreamsWow I've had dreams of events that I later lived out as events in real lifeWow I've had a voice tell me things that are going to happen in the future and then those things happenedDoes that satisfy you? Does it mean anything to you? No, it doesn't, and I don't give a shit that it doesn'tIt's called the 4th power of the sphinx and again casting pearls before swineWhat the fuck do you actually want from me?This is shit that you have to find out on your own for your own sake
>>533187999>Wow I've had dreams of events that I later lived out as events in real life>Wow I've had a voice tell me things that are going to happen in the future and then those things happenedSurely we'll hear any of that any second now and you can prove it objectively, which would be easy to do if you definitely wrote the predictions down before they happened.>Does that satisfy you? Does it mean anything to you?No because you're making claims without any sort of elaboration and evidence, it's just as worthless as any quackery until you do so. An easy way to test it by listing all dreams you've had that still did not come true, so you can create a body of evidence without any confirmation bias.
>>533186081>https://archive.org/details/peter-j.-carroll-liber-null-and-psychonaut-the-practice-of-chaos-magic-revised-aI this the Chud wojak guy?
>>533188146Do you even know what gnosis is?Even if I could 'prove it objectively' it wouldn't mean shit.How about you prove to me objectively just one fact. Any fact. About anything. Prove to me objectively one single little fact about anything. I bet you can't do it.You can only prove it to yourselfAnyway you're a fucking hylic nigger and I'm done talking to you about shit you will never understand. Try living a few more hundred lifetimes.>>533188243It's his cousin
>>533186354This quote is supposed to seem profound but I think he's purposely flipped it. >magic isBecomes>art is>music is>sculpture isAnd then "magic" without weasel's recourse to "soul" and "spirit" becomes something quite mundane depending upon what metaphor or lens you choose for describing how your creative output impacts its audience. Annoying people hiding their bullshit behind a power-enhancing language game.
>>533188317Enough with the gatekeeping, condescension and dodging. Substantiate your quack claims. It would absolutely mean everything if you actually proved anything, and you can objectively do that.
>>533188395no i cant prove it you dumb cunthow am i going to prove my personal experiences to you?i could tell you a voice told me someone was going to die and i could show you their grave site but that doesnt prove anythingi could tell you all about my dream and all about how it all happened in real life after the dream and everything in the dream happened in real life but that doesn't prove anything all i can say is that things can happen and there are practices and techniques that can make them happen for youit's up to you to learn about them, try them and see if they work for youor you can just forget about it all because its all fake bullshit anywaytheres nothing i can do that will change that fact and i don't give a fuck what you do either way so shut the fuck up already you fucking stupid cunt
>>533187724>Why is the chaos magick symbol on the cover the star-disc of Ishtar, an ancient Babylonian demon?That's something they aren't answering you, it just goes to show all magic is demonic.
>>533187607> some part of me wonders if prayers and Christian types of thinking/behaviour actually summon these kinds of entities deliberately, but certain prayers also being able to repel them does confuse things a bit. To repeat >>533185144 the conclusion I've come to is that all "spirituality" involves making bargains with supernatural entities. This is actually explicit in Christianity. You worship Christ and in exchange your sins are absolved via his crucifixion and resurrection. So you're entering into a bargain, except you have no real way of knowing who or what your bargaining with and what the real value of what you're giving and getting is. So if Christ is such a spiritual entity but isn't actually God made flesh as is claimed, it stands to reason that there would be some push and pull. Some incentive to make sure you uphold your side of the bargain and maintain your focus on him. Also to repeat >>533185711 my conclusion is that human attention and focus is an extremely valuable commodity for spiritual entities because we are formed beings and provide a means for formless spiritual entities to obtain form. It's not them who inhabit the "higher" reality, it's us.I also came to the conclusion that the electrical sensations in my brain (which have been playing up while writing this) were a warning. Maybe from God if there really is one, maybe simply from my own nervous system.>>533188146You are a massively retarded nigger.
>>533186304My library is bigger, faggot
>>533185669How very "buyer and seller" coded
>>533188692>how am i going to prove my personal experiences to you?Predictions are very easy, you just write them down before they come true. Professional bullshitters usually just write down a lot of bullshit so it's inevitable they'll get some hits, you're failing to even meet that retard-tier standard.>i could tell you a voice told me someone was going to dieEveryone will die eventually of course so that by itself means nothing, it will be slightly more compelling if you get the time, place and cause of death right. Can't wait to hear it.If you can't separate anything you say from typical quackery, what makes you think I should respect it more than any other worthless quackery? You have an inflated ego if you thought so.>i could tell you>i could tell you>i could tell youYet you didn't.
>>533188739>You worship Christ and in exchange your sins are absolved via his crucifixion and resurrectioncompletely wrong buddy. i suppose you could say that the deal (in this case taking your punishment) was actually internal to the one God and is given to you as a gift. you're not earning that gift at all.
>>533188881I didn't say anything about "earning", I said bargaining. Different things. A free gift doesn't come with conditions and strictures on your behavior - that's a trade.
>>5331787212026 is the official year of everyone going crazy.
>>533188775>i downloaded the temple of solomon the king megayou aren't special, niggerfaggoti bet you've read even less than the retarded cunt you're replying to>>533188880because it still wouldn't prove anything especially to a dumb fuck hylic cunt like youstop fucking (you)ing me and do the work for yourself you stupid fucking cuntjesus fucking christ how many fucking times do i have to tell youFIND OUT FOR YOUR FUCKING SELF YOU RETARDED CUNT
>>533188996you'd have a point if I hadnt extended it with my own research. I've easily read 1/5 of all of it btw
>>533188959comes down to the same thing anon. but believe whatever you want. the only exchange going on between Christ and the believer is that He took your sins and gave you His Righteousness.
>>533183897>"It sounds like you're making this argument that once you convert to Christianity you become a "target" and that's why you start being fucked with. That never made any sense to me."It's literally true though, and there's overwhelming amounts of evidence for it. Ask any exorcist in the world and he'll tell you that's how it works.Demons don't typically trouble people who are already thoroughly in their clutches; it's a waste of their time.
>>533188996First you said it's easy and posted a yoga book, when further questioned it's suddenly not easy anymore and you keep claiming sort of transcendental upper hand with nothing to substantiate it. You keep claiming you "could" tell anything to substantiate but you don't, why do you keep stopping right when you could do so? Could it be you're just a grifter full of hot air? Maybe try shouting into the bot void of /x/ if you really want some sort of schizo prestige among undiscerning NPC suckers who are also just there to yap their retarded, generic bullshit.
>>533189098yeah not too bad actually
>>533188959>I didn't say anything about "earning", I said bargainingSame thing in this context... God predestinated people to be saved, before the foundation of the world, so he GAVE, he didn't bargain a thing. Even faith is a free gift. It's in the book.
>>533178721>Imagine in 20 years when these "nihilist" find themselves childless, seen as creepy and beaten up by migrants in cheap nursing homes.CC: Lambright
>>533189120Just read the Bible.> “Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.>>533189145That anything could waste a demon's time is news to me. It seems much simpler that playing with forces beyond your full understanding or control will predictably result in negative consequences for you.>>533189186> Vaginas are real. I've seen one with my own eyes.>> Oh really? Prove it.
>>533189530Are you arguing that vaginas can't be proven and there isn't evidence for them? You're just arguing against yourself at this point since obviously they have a massive body of evidence.
I was a christian when I was a kid. And what I experienced falls completely outside the scope of christianity. Now that you made me think about it, christianity is a very dumb, simplistic religion. I am pretty sure that was the opinion of contemporaries when christianity started becoming popular. And it is kind of what you would expect from something designed to control the masses.
>>533189530>That anything could waste a demon's time is news to me.Respectfully, you've said a lot that's made it clear that you don't know much about this sorta stuff.For instance, demons can't be in two places at once. Also, they're very bureaucratic. Also-also, they can and do get abused by each other. So yeah, all harassment is planned, coordinated, and evaluated.
>>533189449If you believe in predestination then it's not a bargain, but for the reason that you really have no control over what you do in any meaningful sense. I don't see any more grace in this than in the indifferent hand of natural selection.
>>533189186listen here you fucking retarded little monkey nigger cunt this is the last reply you get from mestop projecting your dumb little monkey ego onto mei'm not your guru and i never claimed to bei'm not claiming anything here, i'm not selling anything here, i have no stake in anything and nothing to gain from anythingi'm a sign post pointing the wayyou can either sit there and ask if i'm really pointing the right way or you can go down the road and find out for yourself or you can turn around and ignore mego and practice the practices and see what happensor dont and shut the fuck upit's that fucking simple
>>533189615I'm saying the only evidence that can prove it beyond doubt is to see it for yourself, and if you demand or require any other evidence than that you don't understand the nature of the subject.
>>533189518> these "nihilist" find themselves childless, seen as creepyThis was inevitable. he could of chose not to let every one else know about it.> beaten up by migrants in cheap nursing homes.he seems smart enough to kill himself before he becomes dependent on another.>>533189683He was always going to be some weirdo. the aa could of not shoved a banana up his ass, that would have improved his life trajectory. That's what free will is. Choosing not to shove a banana up your ass.
>>533189704Still a lot of whining and ad hominem because you can't walk the talk, stay quiet worthless little nigger.>>533189783That's not how it works at all, you can absolutely build a body of evidence about anything that's real, evidence of absence and absence of evidence are also things you can use to infer facts.
>>533189650>For instance, demons can't be in two places at once. Also, they're very bureaucratic. Also-also, they can and do get abused by each other. So yeah, all harassment is planned, coordinated, and evaluated.I'm just not impressed and I don't believe you actually know anything. Respectfully.
>>533189530>that playing with forces beyond your full understanding or control will predictably result in negative consequences for you.So what would that mean in relation to God? Can playing with him also result in negative consequences?Why did God create us in such a way that we would fail to make the right choice every time and as a result suffer negative consequences? He knew that if he created us with a flaw that that would result in negative consequences for us, and yet he still did it. Why? Isn't it a sin if you know the good you ought to do and do not do it?
>>533189952>>533189650Now you inevitably have two retards arguing which of their headcanon is right, neither of them will ever deliver anything other than unsubstantiated claims and it'll stay as that pointless egocentric back and forth from two retards because they refuse to engage in basic critical thinking unless it's against the other one's claim, then they are suddenly unimpressed by claims that are unsubstantiated as their own.Their goal isn't finding truths but peddling themselves as the deliverers of truth, you can see the same thing happening with this guy >>533189704 claiming to be le ebin pointer of reality despite failing at the most basic litmus tests.
>>533189650>demons can't be in two places at onceRespectfully, you've said a lot that's made it clear that you don't know much about this sorta stuff.For instance bilocation is one of the simplest and easiest things a demon can do.
>>533178721>why do internet attention whores do things that get them attention on the internetidk man I guess it's a miracle or something
how's the weather in south carolina, jo?
Religiosity increases in old age when you get lonelier and more willing to pretend to believe bullshit just to have people to talk to.>>533190075Based bunda enjoyer
>>533178721This kind of faggotry just opens them up to demonic forces who will inevitably destroy their entire lives. Why are people so stupid? 2,000 years of Church history and teachings and they ignore it for some new age demonic bullshit. It’s unreal. He’s probably a FAG or drug addict.
>>533190181It's always attention and impression management with these losers. Note how quickly they dismiss equally retarded claims by other equally retarded low IQ schizoids because it threatens their own image as the commanding authorities on esotericism. It's not just an overall lack of critical thinking, it's actual conscious grifting.
>>533189911> you can absolutely build a body of evidence about anything that's realYOU can. YOU refused to and demand other people do it for you. YOU are a spastic.
>>533190433You are the one making claims about precognition and being hounded by numbers, which are actual things you could build evidence or counter-evidence for, but why did you stop right when you could do so? Because it threatens the image you want to create for yourself as a modern day wizard (aka grifter).
>>533178721There are no such things as Atheist. They are both part of religious dogma to harvest spiritual entropy from humans for their own greed. All humans are spiritual, all humans effect their environment through observation. All humans are connected to universal consciousness as all animals are. Use it or be used.
>>533190530>>533190433Also you guys are even worse than professional retards because those are actually prepared to answer the most basic lines of questioning that obviously anyone will be asking, /x/ tourists are a sauceless cargo cult of wizard-wannabes that falls apart at the slightest breeze.
>>533190433FUCK
>>533178898BASED WIZARD PILLSCHIZO NEIGHBORHOOD MATERIALISTS OUT
>>533190227>edgy teenage atheists rebelling against dad are at the peak of lifetime wisdom after reading dawkins and harris>knowledge and wisdom then decrease with age as they learn more about religion>this is what enlightened atheists believeHaving to hold up naive young people as the pinnacle of intellectualism must be rough.
bro TJ is pushing 50, he's already at the age when he knows he will die childles
>>533190530You're RIGHT. A random 4chan thread is where I've come to establish my illegitimate authority on spiritual matters. You fucking idiot.
>>533178721Abrahamics really are tiresome.Anyway it's because the supernatural is clearly real and easily observable if you search for it. Any honest person who investigates it will inevitably realize this.Thinking these things have any relation to the various jewish desert cults is foolish though.
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