https://nypost.com/2026/04/14/us-news/zohran-mamdanis-city-owned-grocery-stores-will-only-guarantee-lower-prices-for-a-core-basket-of-goods/
>>533195416thats money taht could be going to israel instead
>>533195416Nobody in NYC is going hungry because there are not enough food stores. Comrade mamdanis intention is not to help anybody - its a political trojan horse. The idea is that city run stores don't have to pay taxes or make a profit which of course allows them to undercut any commercial store. The commercial stores will leave and the neighborhoods where the city stores are positioned will then be dependent on the communist run stores for food. They will of course have to keep voting for them every election which seems like the purpose of the stores. Also you can be sure even though the food wont be free in these stores the city will lose money running them and have to subsidize them by stealing more money from productive people. This is how socialism always works.
WOKE socialism..librals are gonna be paying for it in their taxes...as if new york didnt have enough ROFL
>>533195964>which of course allows them to undercut any commercial store.good it will lower prices
>>533195416There should be government run grocery stores and they'd be stocked with only cheap but healthy foods. And they should be the only place you're allowed to spend EBT
Technocomunism has no place for independent businesses, you must rely on the state for survival, its an order
>>533195416If at first you don't succeed, try try again.
They’re unironically how the Soviet Union collapsed. State controlled commodities production and distribution doesn’t work because the state can’t price inputs accurately. You just end up spending more than you make and then you pull from public coffers and debt to fund it until the house of cards collapses because you’re so under water. It’s infinitely worse than food stamps and it literally does not work, has never worked, and will never work.
>>533195964oh no the horror of exchanging reliance on a profit driven goyslop outlet for reliance on a public service that you can influence just by votingwhy do rightoids screech about MUH FREEDUMBS and then beg multinational megacorporations to fuck them in the ass with no lube?>>533196067unironically good policy. guaranteeing poor americans access to fresh vegetables is something that needs to happen asap
>>533195416I'm for whatever Nazi Germany did. Get the people's food out of the hands of the greedy Jews.
>>533195416Based. Destroy private property and hang everyone with a net worth of over 10 million.All violence against the 1% is self-defense.>>533196024Trump is losing, boomer. We're coming for you.
>>533196040yes it will lower prices below the cost of producing those items meaning taxes will subsidize grocery prices. There are of course already many agricultural subsidies that make many things at the food store cheaper than they really cost to produce and comrade mamdani and his socialist revolution will extend that.
>>533196580i love how you people are like NOTHING CAN BE DONE OK only the rich can be helped ever ok?! Im getting real sick of this mentality.
>>533196255We tried the Trumpian hyper-capitalist way and look where it got us. The country is a fucking shithole now where everyone but ~1000 people are poor as fuck, all controlled by private equity with headquarters in Israel or if you're lucky, Saudi Arabia.Let's swing hard in the other direction to undo some of the damage. Miggers were willing to destroy America just to elect Trump and see his "vision" (dementia). The left should be willing to do the same. If it doesn't work out, oh well. Ship's already sinking might as well try.Long live the People's Republic of America!
>>533196580>subsidize grocery prices.oh no the horror of having cheap foodwe MUST run the government like a business and squeeze maximum profits out of a literal necessity of life otherwise the Market PBUH will cast a recession on us for our lack of faith>>533196681bot shill or bootlicker, usually its one of the first 2. even the most diehard bootlickers are getting antsy with gas and groceries climbing as fast as they are now
No more AI price gouging
>>533195705wtf i love city owned grocery stores now
>>533196681I love how you people think the solution to any problem is more power for the government the wealthiest most corrupt abusive inefficient violent business of them all. But fuck private billionaires though its going to work this time.
>>533196354>oh no the horror of exchanging reliance on a profit driven goyslop outlet for reliance on a public service that you can influence just by votingI can't recall the last time a politician altered the world to reflect my vote, but I can think of plenty of "profit driven goyslop outlets" that went out of business because people like me stopped giving them money.Imagine a store that sells the worst trash but never goes out of business, it just squats their taking up space. You vote for a guy who says he's going to make the store better, but somehow he never actually does. In fact it only even gets worse.
>>533196354A grocery run store will be run about as well as the DMV or your local streets and parks department. In the same way that pothole down the street that keeps getting bigger hasn't been fixed in 8 months, so too will the shelves be empty.Why does the left believe money runs politics but also believes voting works?
>>533196255>it just doesn't work!>that's why we spend billions of dollars a year invading, sanctioning, coup'ing, and god knows what else to any country that tries to be socialist!
>>533196826at least the government is run by the people, YOU think the solution is to give ultimate freedom and control to the super rich because you are fucking stupid. They are worse than "big government" by far
>>533195416Pretty good. I'm moving there in a couple months.
>>533196866Why was socialist China so poor, while fascist China is so rich?
>>533196826Socialism was never tried in America.Though realistically I'm in favor of a mixed system like many European countries have (social market economy), where only the worst billionaire excesses are prosecuted and curbed.Or better yet the Chinese system where they shoot rich faggots who step out of line. Modern China is a corpo-shithole that strayed from its glorious communist ways, but we can still learn from them.I don't want actual hardcore communism but boomers are scared shitless of them so all Democrats should just LARP as those.
>>533196040It won't. Whole Foods will just fucking leave. And what happens to the bodegas that are profit driven? GONE LMAO. All modern liberal ideology melts with a simple "OK, then what?"
>>533196362east germany and soviets had state owned grocery stores. but not the nazis
>>533196883>at least the government is run by the peopleHow dumb do you have to be to believe this? I mean, are we really going to pretend high level faceless bureaucrats and civil servants actually listen to people? If voting actually worked, governmets globally would be more trusted than they actually are.>inb4 the rich corrupt electionsYes, the well connected (not just rich) corrupt everything. This is why the nomenklatura existed. A permanent class of managers and technocrats that were outside of the reach of the general public.>>533196866Hope you have this same energy for fascism and natsoc.
>>533195964In the end, everyone starves down to the last rat.>USSR: United Soviet SOCIALIST RepublicGone.>Nazi: Nationalist SOCIALISTSGone.You faggots burn.
>>533196883>at least the government is run by the peopleWho the fuck are "the people"?Which people exactly are we talking about here?My people?Your people?Those people that just showed up last week and don't speak a lick of English?Show me these fucking people that are running things, because as far as I can see the only people running the government are the most manipulative narcissists able to scramble to the head of the pack and lie better than a everyone else.
>>533196713solidarity comrade! im in ontario trying to bring the socialism home
>>533195416>How do we feel about city-owned grocery stores?Its a retarded idea.Just giving cash straight to poor people and letting the free market provide for them would be far more efficient. Supposedly this fucking grocery store cost $30 million to build and for what? I honestly think the dems in NYC did a good thing by picking Mamdani over the establishment moron Cuomo. They're at least trying something new; but these commie nonsense ideas have all been tried and failed already. There are better ways to help the poor.
>>533196839>DMV or your local streets and parks departmentI don't know what shithole southern dump you live in but my dmv is super efficient and the local parks are amazing. any time I need something from them I never spend more than an hour at the office and anything they mail gets here in less than a business week. you're really just telling on yourself if you complain about le dmv>>533196833>it didn't work before so don't even bother trying to make anything else work>just passively accept your condition, do not try to change anything for the better>GIVEUPGIVEUPGIVEUPGIVEUPGIVEUPGIVEUPyup its shill hours>>533196976>fascistthe ultimate cope. run by a marxist-leninist party, mandatory M-L philosophy courses for all party members, but somehow they're fascist because socialism axiomatically cannot work>>533197026good fucking riddance. people will finally see you can, in fact, trust a government to help you rather than need to rely on a profit driven corporation, something the entire rest of the world understands but americans go out of their way to refuse to get
>>533195416We should Ask Romanians who lived there under Ceaucescu
>>533196883>at least the government is run by the peoplelol you nu-socialists are a special kind of stupid.
>>533197082> DPRK: DEMOCRATIC peoples republic of korea/pol/ logic
>>533195416Looks just as shitty as nyc does.
>>533195416Great, now people will be dependent on Mamdani for getting food. Nothing can go wrong with that.
>>533196354>a public service that you can influence just by voting
>>533197026all you have to do is take some of what Trump does. Make the businesses afraid to not eat the difference. Send a government task force after the companies that leave. If some go oit of business who cares, at least the cost will go down by force.
>>533197062>fascismyes the US famously goes out of its way to ruin any fascist country. just look at saudia arabia or ukraine or pakistan or indonesia under suharto or iran under the shah, or...
>>533197107>I don't know what shithole southern dump you live in but my dmv is super efficient and the local parks are amazing. any time I need something from them I never spend more than an hour at the office and anything they mail gets here in less than a business week. you're really just telling on yourself if you complain about le dmvI live in the rust belt, and I would like you to post your county or city so I can see for myself.
>>533197053The state expropriated the stores and gave them to non-Jews.
>>533197082You shove rabbi shmuely's dildos up your magat ass KEKAROOOO
>>533197162>conveniently leaves out non-US puppetsI distinctly remember the capitalists helping their supposed enemies stamp out the Third Reich and fascist Italy. They also put pressure on Francoist Spain too, who was a good ally to Nasser and Assad and even on friendly terms with Cuba.
>>533196991some people argue that the "nordic model" or a variation of it wouldn't work in the US because of population size .i don't really have an opinion on the matter, but it would be interesting for a state to try it out and see what the results are. memes aside i think it would be nice if the US got better healthcare and education standards and better workers rights. no system is perfect, but from an outsiders perspective it feels like corporations and lobbyism have too much power in the US and hindering progress.i'm just a curious midwit though.
>>533196713>>533197099Ask yourself why Zimbabwe doesnt resort to communism. You imported too many browns retard, your ideas of communism are over forever. No socialism, no distribution. Youre not taking historical White wealth and giving it to niggers. Sorry, you fucked up, played yourself nigga. Socialism only works when the people being socialists actually love eachother, retards. You cannot have that in mixed race society, you prevented socialism forever with open borders. Not even NS can exist, all socialism is cancered by diversity. Absolute monkey nigger brain retards. >Just giving cash straight to poor people and letting the free market provide for them would be far more efficient. Supposedly this fucking grocery store cost $30 million to build and for what?This is your brain on niggers. Your dollar is worthless retard, nobody provides value because you imported dumb niggers. Sorry, wont ever happen. You have nobody to blame but yourselves for sucking 30 years of nigger and beaner dick. Now you die poor and miserable, as you deserve to. Pay for the niggers retard, go work a slave job, you contribute for them. Go work for niggers slave. Not so fun when we call it what it really is, now is it, you being a slave to niggers and getting nothing because your system is collapsing. Move to Canada, you already have communism, and a failed healthcare system BECAUSE NIGGERS FUCKED IT ALL UP RETARD YOU CANNOT HAVE MARXISM WITH NIGGERS AND YOURE STUCK WITH NIGGERS FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER FOREVERYoure countries will both burn down within the next 10 years. Ashes nationalism.
>>533197107>the ultimate cope. run by a marxist-leninist party, mandatory M-L philosophy courses for all party members, but somehow they're fascist because socialism axiomatically cannot work>somehow they're fascist >somehow "Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."Am I talking about Mussolini's Italy or Xi's China?What exactly do you think fascism is anon?
i thought the groceries were supposed to be free in these things? can we get the niggers to start rioting over this bait and switch?
>>533196255I wish it was thisunfortunately instead, the person shoving the fork in gets rich for doing it, and tens of millions of innocent people get murdered for their entertainment as a bonus
The gov't shop will be run less efficiently than any for-profit enterprise by a significant margin. Also, the artificially low gov't prices will drive away private competitors, increasing reliance on the gov't shop. So there will now be a single subsidized and very costly (to taxpayers) shop serving too many people. Any blip in supply will be devastating as there will be noone to take up the slack. Another well-intentioned disaster.
>>533196713>>533197099Ask yourself why Zimbabwe doesnt resort to communism. You imported too many browns retard, your ideas of communism are over forever. No socialism, no distribution. Youre not taking historical White wealth and giving it to niggers. Sorry, you fucked up, played yourself nigga. Socialism only works when the people being socialists actually love eachother, retards. You cannot have that in mixed race society, you prevented socialism forever with open borders. Not even NS can exist, all socialism is cancered by diversity. Absolute monkey nigger brain retards. >Just giving cash straight to poor people and letting the free market provide for them would be far more efficient. Supposedly this fucking grocery store cost $30 million to build and for what?This is your brain on niggers. Your dollar is worthless retard, nobody provides value because you imported dumb niggers. Sorry, wont ever happen. You have nobody to blame but yourselves for sucking 30 years of nigger and beaner dick. Now you die poor and miserable, as you deserve to. Pay for the niggers retard, go work a slave job, you contribute for them. Go work for niggers slave. Not so fun when we call it what it really is, now is it, you being a slave to niggers and getting nothing because your system is collapsing. Move to Canada, you already have communism, and a failed healthcare system BECAUSE NIGGERS FUCKED IT ALL UP RETARD YOU CANNOT HAVE MARXISM WITH NIGGERS AND YOURE STUCK WITH NIGGERS FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER FOREVERYour countries will both burn down within the next 10 years. Ashes nationalism. You get - NOTHING. You get your niggers, you have niggers at home, go play with your niggers.
>>533197262go back to truthsocial and go to sleep. stop sundowning> FOREVER FOREVER FOREVER FOREVERyou are a wild animal
>>533197141you may be surprised to learn local elections don't have billions of dollars poured into themyou would have a point if this was some national policythe fact a guy promising to do this got elected in fucking new york city, the heart of western finance capital, tells you that lower level elections can result in actual democratic results>>533197194>I live in the rust belt>a part of the country utterly destroyed by the Free Market PBUH doing its thing>so let me tell you why you should slavishly obey the dictates of the Free Market PBUH>now tell me your zip codeliving in the rust belt and being a market fundamentalist is even worse than being some southron retard. at least they have the excuse that they've never known an alternative to grinding market fundamentalist misery>>533197256>muh nazisyeah they hated them so much they took them all in after the war and gave them complete control of the military.
>>533197202Based. Heil Hitler!
>>533197275NYC doesn't have the money for this to ever get that big.They can't even get the trains to run without constantly cranking up the price of transit fares. There's no way in hell that this program will ever leave the pilot stage. The money just isn't there, and there are too many other pre-existing pseudo socialist programs ahead of it in line for the money that is there.This is just Mamdani checking off a box to say, "see I did it! We tried but it just didn't work oh well so sorry!"
>>533196257Hypothetically this will work because it exists within a market ecosystem. There are market calibrated input prices, wages are market determined (if artificially low,) and there are prices from private firms to compare it to. It's a state-owned not for profit enterprise, not a whole command economy.
>all you have to do is take some of what Trump does. Make the businesses afraid to not eat the difference. Send a government task force after the companies that leave. If some go oit of business who cares, at least the cost will go down by force.This is what absolute monkeybrain nigger leftists actually believe. Print a million dollars, give everyone a million dollars, food comes from the grocery store not farms. South African economics minister tier. Post contains its own cope about how it cant work, other countries exist and so does capital flight. Stay poor and niggerfied and raped by packs of niggers. Niggerbrain goycattle wah wah make things cheaper, sorry nigger, you voted to PAY FOR NIGGERS FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER and now your money is worth 1/3 of it was BECAUSE YOU GAVE THE VALUE TO NIGGERS DUMBFUCK STARVE TO DEATH KILL YOURSELF
>>533197275Any slack will be taken up by the free market, aka the black market. In the USSR, black markets were how people got lots of shit that wasn't sold or available. Sovtransaska drivers would risk prison to being in goods from the west.Might be a good gig if you can bribe the right people.
>>533197335>living in the rust belt and being a market fundamentalist is even worse than being some southron retard. at least they have the excuse that they've never known an alternative to grinding market fundamentalist miseryJust post your county or city bro. Don't bitch out.
>>533197320There are no browns allowed on this board, this is a White mans board for Libertarian Nationalists and National Socialists. Leave, immediately. Reddit is for poo, I mean you.
>>533195416I kinda like this guy but he is a bit too sunny for me. He has a bit of a drive to get to that where he is. Not saying that i think he is a fresh wind.
>>533197405Don't worry, we'll just make the Whites pay for it. They surely won't move to a red state like half of New Yorkers already are.
>>533197335>the fact a guy promising to do this got elected in fucking new york city, the heart of western finance capital, tells you that lower level elections can result in actual democratic resultsLiterally the only reason he got elected is because the only people running against him were Nipple rings Cuomo and Curtis fucking Sliwa. If Grandpa Munster Al Lewis were still alive to run there's a good chance even HE could have won. That's how barren and inbred politics is in NY.
>>533197335>yeah they hated them so much they took them all in after the war and gave them complete control of the military.>muh operation paperclip nazisStill doesn't compare to the level of lend lease given to the USSR. US also never sent food aid to Nazi Germany or the two European fascist powers.
>>533195416Something bad is napping to New York lefties that voted for a Muslim community. I assure you I'm very mad about that. Honestly.
>>533195416I think they're going to fail AND cause other grocery stores to fail TOO!
>>533195416I don't mind it.The current grocery market is monopolized, so it doesn't benefit from the competitive pressures that make capitalism beneficial to consumers.
>>533196040>>533196354Retarded brown teenagers
>>533197523Like I said.They can't even get the Whites to pay to keep MTA train and bus fare under $3. There's so much shit in NYC that needs money and will get money before Mamdani's hobby bodegas do.
>>533197263China is National Socialism with Chinese Characteristics.
>>533197484yall are white boys with dry dicks.as an Indian IT guy im here trying to diagnose your white birthrate problem. have you tried to turn it on and off again?
>THE GOVERNMENT CAN'T RUN GROCERY STORES!
>>533197502He’s a typical jeet rat regularly taking credit for things he didn’t do and/or haven’t worked yet
Is anybody going to post the in store prices?
>>533197736No they can't, and the best part is that niggers speed run their demise in a way Eastern European socialism never had to deal with.
>>533197736Seriously kill yourself as soon as possible
>>533197421First of all, the fact that you may be able to do research and determine optimal break even input prices means nothing for incentive. The natural incentive for public goods and services is to be as inefficient as possible for as high wages as possible. And who decides? What socialist that pushes state run grocery stores says “no actually you employees make too much already?” Nobody. Second, you’re going to have to explain how even theoretically it exists within a market system. It is literally it subject to a market. There is no competition because you’re state run. You literally never have to worry about making sure you’re operating in the black because you’re just subsidized by the taxpayer. Saying a firm like this exists in a market is like saying a government exists in a market. It doesn’t.
>>533197692And the guys only plan is to raise taxes on Whites to address all of this. It's the peak of a shitskins typical perception in this country.
>>533197126>Heh, stupid socialist, public services are just a trick to take power away from the people. Look at all these politicians gloating and laughing at how stupid you are for falling for their tricks!>The politicians in question: A bunch of right-wing neoliberals famous for gutting social services and privatizing as much as they could
The reason this won't work is because these shops are specifically intended to go into "food deserts", i.e. neighborhoods that don't have many / any grocery stores. And there's a very good reason they don't have any. They used to, but those stores went out of business or were forced to relocate. For reasons. Is /pol/ smart enough to guess the reasons????
>>533195416They work for military families.
>>533195964>chinese model for groceries stores applied to local brick and mortar food supply>all private businesses go out of business, the city is left to charge whatever they want and make massive revenue whike operating outside the costs any private business would have had to incur>can force you to eat bugs because they wont sell you anything else and no one else exists to sell you real foodThis 100% this.>>533196040>t. Retarded faggot subhuman trash
>>533198012They will work exactly as intended. Unlimited 5 finger discount gibz for the youth voters to keep him in power
>>533198214>>t. Retarded faggot subhuman trashfuck you and your business fag
>>533198296>Unlimited 5 finger discountI did that over 1,5k times.
>>533195416>city-owned grocery storesIsn't it literally just PX?
Im stealing this bag of onions and cans of beans to feed my crime gang
How do I get a job a city owned grocery store?
>>533195964>stealing more money from productive peopleWhy do you fags love billionaires so much? The same billionaires we know rape and eat your children, why?
>>533195416They tried this already. They didn't have food and it still cost the city tens of millions.https://www.kcur.org/news/2025-08-12/kansas-city-grocery-store-sun-fresh-closed-despite-18-million-city-investments-food-desertIt's a perfect example of why communism doesn't fucking work.
>>533198780It's probably not a good long-term prospect. I doubt these stores will last longer than a couple years, at most, before the massive losses they incur will force their closure.
>>533199275Its going to have healthcare and retirement.
>>533197152>make a punishment for stores that leave>now absolutely nobody will risk making a business in your city because they have the risk of failure and a new financial punishment for leaving
>>533198447More or less. We could split hairs over local government vs federal but why
>>533195416>Holding a lapel micWhat is this dude's FUCKING problem?
>>533199431>>now absolutely nobody will risk making a business in your city because they have the risk of failure and a new financial punishment for leavingthen start punishing people for not making a business. See its easily a solved problem with fascism.
>>533199204White people's definition of "work" and communists definition clearly differs. Try to be more understanding.
>>533199386Again, for like 2 years, then you're going to lose those benefits when the story closes.
>>533196866Why do you disingenuous niggers always compare apples to oranges?
>>533199444Feds have a huge budget and getting to shop at the BX/PX/commissary is a privilege for service members not a form of charity for the poor
They voted for this. I expect NYC will continue to unravel as high taxes drive high earners away, requiring even higher taxes to keep the socialism flowing. There's nothing but inertia keeping Wall Street there since the internet took over. But if you really want socialism, there's far worse ways to waste money than subsidized vegetables, at least it's a sensible and achieveable goal this time.
>>533195416to this day i have still no idea what the deal with privately owned shit when government are still paying for the lose anyway (outside of them just cocksucking jew but that a given)
>>533195416i could see it being similar to soviet grocery stories. all of the inconvenience and shit quality/service but with none of the cute girls working there.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWTGsUyv8IE
>>533195416Mamdani is an antisemite and should be ASHAMED of not giving that money to Israel!
