The scopes are designed to counter small unmanned aircraft systems (sUAS) and ground targets. They provide a >95% hit probability against drones up to 200m by using computer vision to lock onto targets and allowing firing only when the crosshairs align.https://taskandpurpose.com/news/marines-drone-optic-2026/
>>533199464Lol they’ll be the smartest corpses ever
>>533199464>The recent photos showing Marines with the SMASH 2000L mounted on their M4sThe M4 isn't a long-range rifle, is it? What's the point of giving them a scope which will automatically calculate the optimum firing angle against a target which is never within range? This an anti-anxiety morale-boosting placebo?
>>533199464Why didn't Ukraine or Russia come up with something like this?
>>533199464>95% hit probability against drones up to 200m>allowing firing only when the crosshairs align.It never fired but if it had, it would've been bullseye
>>533199464>I guess we'll hit them with missiles~IRGC~
>>533199747200m isn't long range
>>533199747>isn't a long-range rifleOP says the scope is good for up to 200 meters. That's far below the effective range of the m4, which is 500 meters.
>>533199791Because it's going to be completely fucking useless in real combat.Nobody likes this scope btw. Jarheads' word, not mine.
>>533199464>They provide a >95% hit probability against drones up to 200m by using computer vision to lock onto targets and allowing firing only when the crosshairs align.Pretty sure something like this was used to kill Charlie Kirk.
>>533199941Stop. Its time to get some help.
>>533199605kek this
>>533199464lol, it's just a pacifier to make the crayon eating retards feel better about being shipped off to die for israel
>>533199747>>533199952>>533199977200 meters is long range for the carbine<--equipping most U.S. troops. 5.56 rifles are only user-effective out to about 300 meters (especially the 14.5" barrel M4)For beyond 300 meters *to be consistently target effective* you need a different caliber and type of rifle. (You need a 20-inch barrel 5.56, to be effective at 500m) 500 meters, or 300+, is 'medium range'. 700 meters and up is long range.
>>533199464That will not help against these four Marines.
>>533199791>only allowing firing when cross hairs are aligned I don't even know how that works, like the gun doesnt fire? What if you have to contend with multiple things at once with this scope? Like one second you're targeting a drone and the next your sergeant calls for suppression fire or you need to return fire on something else. What, does it lock the trigger? What if it misses and if the Marine kept firing he might hit it, like he fires 2-3 shots at a moving target? It just fucks him over? Is it rigged to the firing mechanism? What if it locks up somehow?
>>533199464Israeli tech. Originally designed for small children.
>>533199791Becuse it is useless, they spend few drones to kill a single soldier.
>>533200120it isn't new, it's way less sophisticated than live fire tests done using auto targeting munitions 2 decades ago.>https://www.darpa.mil/research/programs/extreme-accuracy-tasked-ordnanceThe system combined a maneuverable bullet and a real-time guidance system to track and deliver the projectile to the target, allowing the bullet to change path during flight to compensate for any unexpected factors that may drive it off course.Decades old stuff that quietly got funding cuts by the commie left globalist backed puppets after a real world test actually begins to show results. The last thing the international communist army wants is the Americans to have magic bullets..
>>533200262Sounds like a nightmare
>>533199464>They provide a >95% hit probability against drones up to 200mYeah, ok, Gunny.We'll see how your boys do in real combat>>533199977>That's far below the effective range of the m4, which is 500 meters.Sure bro....
>>533199605Kek fippy
>>533200262There was a video of it a few months ago, they hold over the drone and then hold the trigger down until they by-chance sweep over it. Then the shot is fired. It's a pretty good idea. Although their promotional video has the drone holding a balloon in the distance, the balloon bibs but it's not like the drone is coming to them. Drones cover ground really fast and are difficult to spot in the first place, even if you can hear them.
>>533199791Soldier need 100% success rate to survive which is hard when drones can come at you from 360 degrees. One drone hid in a bush and jump scared when soldiers close by, shit is nasty.
>>533199747> This an anti-anxiety morale-boosting placebo?Bingo
>>533200446Good luck spotting 3-4 small drones flying in an open sky from different directions. Even if you fire a small 5.56 that doesn't mean you'll hit.
>>533199464>what are flanking attacksGood luck when dozens of drones are coming from every direction at 30mph+, good luck even getting them in your sights.Oh and also missiles are raining down upon you for which there is no interceptor ammo remaining because you gave it all to Israel. Like wtf they think it will just be so easy lol.
>>533199464>>533199464more proof that this iran thing is only started to test out our weapons lmaooo
>>533200120Y'all need to stop acting like that was a difficult shot.
"Smart" scope - programmed by the lowest bidding Indian subcontractor. Good luck out there, GIs.
>>533200262human element for targeting as limiter and the crosshair lock not even for smart projectiles. we'll see.
>>533200602You need to stop acting like it was a shot.
And how will this misfire in typical mutt fashion
>>533199605Can't wait for all the smart cope.
>>533200602"Y'all" is not allowed on /pol/>>533200702A little moisture on the scope
>>533199824>>533200262Pretty much what you say. Maybe with full auto it's more useful.
>>533199791Because it's a meme scope that exists purely to make money for some company with ties to a congressman.
>>533199464americans encounter a problem>develop tech to counter it>develop operational procedures to counter it>develop military doctrine to counter itRussians enounter a problem>throw men at it>throw more men at it>throw even more men at it>gain nothing in your ground war while 1000 men/day are killed
>>533199464Why don't they use a shotgun?
>>533199464>>533201157>Because it's a meme scope that exists purely to make money for some company with ties to a congressman.Yes the OP makes it sound like the Marines just happened to be seen with these scopes and it wasn't a deliberately planted PR move by the company making this stuff to market their new product.Marines usually don't even get all the fanciest new toys before the Army so chances are this really is a publicity stunt and only a tiny number of Marines will actually have these things.
>>533199747>This an anti-anxiety morale-boosting placebo?I'm sure it is even more safe and effective than an Iron Dome system.Absolutely no worries
>we made a wonderwaffle and its so epic and sciency. It's made by superior whi- i mean superior democratic liberal people, and it only costs $20,000,000 a piece >*utterly fails to change the course of the war, and gets outperformed by something that costs $4000*
>>533199464How does one of them perform against a half dozen drones?
I'm glad my buddy got out before this and went coast guard.
>>533199464>They provide a >95% hit probability against drones up to 200m by using computer vision to lock onto targets and allowing firing only when the crosshairs align.So first it has to recognize the target, and then it won't let you pull the trigger unless it's got a confirmed lock? Sounds absolutely dreamy under pressure or poor visibility. Just say it's a sniper attachment and be done with it.
>>533200120>and allowing firing only when the crosshairs align.So it's useless as a regular gun, or can it be switched over?
>>533201261We haven't really contended with a drone war yet but I can tell you things will be different when you have to contend with both ground elements and the drone at the same time plus being shelled or mortared at the same time. Seems strange to design a scope that limits a Marine's firing capability and like a liability. What if you are part of a squad that does not encounter any drones? Do you have to take the scope off or can the firing interlock be deactivated and if it can be deactivated will it reliably deactivate on a field weapon or is there even a 1% chance it malfunctions and leaves a US Marine without a functional rifle? Are they bolting this concept on top of Marine squad tactics or is it a new doctrine and they're getting read of the RTFA arrangement for fire teams?
>>533199464Even if this thing works great, they still have to see the drone in order to even know which way to point the rifle. And, if you can see the drone, half the time you're already dead.
new technology is scary
>>533201900I doubt it has a 360 camera but maybe in future iterations, it would be neat if it was always scanning for targets and alerted the shooter when something was found, then they could follow directional indicators to guide the crosshair onto the target. Not sure how hot drone motors get but maybe they could use IR to spot them too
>>533201628imagine this thing not zeroed in and not calculating ballistics according to angle of aim. next they'll need smart lil rocket projectiles that actively seek a predicted point in space according to what was locked on. like good ol flak. oh dear.
>>533201261Russians developed putting a chain link fence around their tanks as a counter.
Why not bring back shotguns for dedicated anti drone gunfare?
When the fpv drone videos of Americans getting killed drop, it's going to get real, especially if they're not white men.
>>533201728>is there even a 1% chance it malfunctions and leaves a US Marine without a functional rifle?Fortunately, he still has his gun
>>533199791It costs more than a replacement conscript.
>>533201261>develop tech to counter it>develop operational procedures to counter it>develop military doctrine to counter it>currently going through Live Beta Test this weekend, come join!
>>533202068Bottom page>>533200313
>>533199464>up to 200mSo you have like 3.7 seconds to just shoot the drone bro. Very cool.
>>533199464Marines getting the fancy new gizmos?It must be the end of the fucking world.
>>533200313That's weird, because usually over-complicated super-expensive wunderwaffe with a niche use gets a full pass with flying colors in the American arms industry. Usually it takes a Russian to say >That's way too complicated to be reliable in an actual warI hope the Army develops an automatic shotgun-type weapon that can just put enough steel in the air to hit these things with human aiming.
>>533202046we get police drones hovering above when soccer match. barely a hum before you can spot them and hard to locate, though they use position lights here and don't fly rapid maneouvres. humans not really made to register attack from the air. wasn't neccessary.
>>533201443You guys sound like envious browns lmao
>>533201261Didn't the Russians innovate cope cages, and later, when cope cages seem to have helped a bit, Ukraine also adopted cope cages?>In 2022, during the Russian invasion of Ukraine where they saw combat usage, they were pejoratively termed "cope cages"[16] by English-language online communities, western military analysts, and British defence secretary, Ben Wallace,[17] expressing skepticism over their real-world effectiveness, based on the assumption by these analysts that the armor was most likely designed in an attempt to mitigate the threat of top-down anti-tank missiles such as the FGM-148 Javelin, and other top-attack munitions.[18]>By Summer 2023, multiple Ukrainian tanks taking part in the 2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive have been spotted with various roof screens, including a Challenger 2, though instead of using slat armor most of them used netting as material.[24]
>>533202093We developed that way back in Korea to prematurely detonate HEATFS and early anti-tank launchers. It works, but it can be done without looking like 40k orcs and preventing the crew's escape.
>>533200201Maybe they have drone rounds retard... The fuck are you even talking about none of that is relevant to this at all? Fucking dumb boomer
>>533199824This is the best of the bestSighJust give bros sawed off shotguns with birdshot
>>533199464Being able to shoot them down 95% of the time you see them before it's too late is certainly an improvement, but let's be honest... Most of the videos I've seen of Ukraine show drones sneaking up on people who either never see the drone or see it when its too late do anything but duck or hip fire... The videos where infantry tries to shoot at the drone from 100 feet away are rare. They're small, hard to see, and impossible to hear until they're close enough that the scope isn't gonna be much help.
>>533202444So make helmet-mounted sensors as early warning? Time to bring back the pickelhaube.
>>533202126Personally, I don’t see why each unit doesn’t have a soldier or two on active watch assigned to respond immediately upon a nearby forward command or short range signals/radar lookout raising an alarm, or even the soldiers themselves could be monitoring highly portable active radar, due to the very short range required. We have the technology to equip every soldier with a handheld highly directional beam-forming EMP weapon for defending against such threats, and due to modern phased array antennas/SDR/AI enhancement capabilities, we can use the exact same hardware for TX/RX in search mode, acquisition/fix/track, and terminate mode via the same effects as a nearby nuclear EMP. This is what that US Navy ship stationed in Japan will be used for, but the ship is an extremely archaic version of the technology. A modern version would be Starlink, possibly without even scaling it up.
>>533199747There are "Anti-drone 5.56mm "shot" rounds". Basically bird shot that's got a tighter spread than shotgun bird shot, at higher velocities and in testing, longer range for auto rifles. Can get up to 100m effective range iirc
>>533202444Realistically it probably just means a change in drone tactics. So far attaching munitions and slamming them into shit has been the most effective because it's easy and there hasn't been a real counter. This will just mean they will need to approach high enough to be out of earshot and drop munitions or dive dumb. The new ukrainian drones can accelerate downwards as well so it wouldn't be a reach to basically have a drone version of a hypersonic where it looters above until it has a target and then accelerates towards it at like 300km an hour.
>>533202546Kek you are retarded. Most drones are little pieces of plastic you won't see with radar unless it also pics up birds and you want to tape a giant squawking radar onto every troop so they can be immediately identified from miles away... Genius. So billions of dollars pissed away to get more soldiers killed? Ya this is probably what they will go with
>>533202520enhanced audio analyis could help. if it's relatively quiet otherwise. the freq band range of drone noise is narrow, which could help. still, once the noise is noticed they are already too close. they need to trigger alarm when 2 klicks away. we'll get there eventually. beautiful anti drone drones will handle the ugly terrorist drones.
>>533199464So mutts are so used to controller meta that now even their IRL guns need aim assist?
>>533199464That sounds pretty impressive... on paper
>>533202622Or glide drones, a fixed wing design that shuts off its engine a mile from the target, steered with rudder and flaps while silently diving.
>>533202696The solution was actually already invented by isreal it just is still in development. You just blanket the field with a mesh network of sensors. Think like a cluster munition only instead of petal mines it's tons of little sensors. When they pick something up they fire off a signal that is picked up by the next and the message goes out in all directions. As more sensors pick up a signal they also send more messages and you have an incoming flight vector.
Remember anti tank guns
Triggerbots.Wow America is just straight up cheating now.
>>533199464>allow firing only when the crosshairs align>in this heat and sunlight>don't know where the attack will be coming fromI look forward to seeing the outcome of this action
>>533202763Interesting idea for something long range or a recon drone but if you already know the location of your target you don't really even need it. Even a shitty mavic you can fly high enough you can't hear it directly underneath and they can drop something you'll never see coming and new attack drone at 300km/hr no person is shooting it down by the time it's heard... Plus just fly a couple and have different approaches with slightly delayed arrival times.
>>533202676I meant to mention that when I say radar, I mean the modern iterations, not the old fashioned CW pulsed UHF/VHF or even the early 4-10GHz technology. MM shortwave IR, or any phase-shift based technology would be fine, one can quite easily tune the antenna as such that it’s emissions will be reflected back by the wires(which are necessary for operation and likely not shielded substantially) that are 1/4 or 1/8 of the transmitted wavelength. Picture only tangentially related.
>>533199791Because it takes time to come up with.
>>533202985That in no way counters anything I said.
>>533199464>the wunderwaffen will save us!delicious migger and copecom cope
>>533199464>allowing firing only when the crosshairs align."I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't let you shoot that"
>>533201967is that a fart detector?
>>533199464Another MIC scam
>>533199791Both sides of the Ukraine war suffer a terminal shortage of computer chips which makes high tech gadgets like this a luxury when you gotta shit out hundreds of drones daily instead.The system the Marines are trialing was developed by Israel and has been in use there for several wars now. It's proven technology but not something immediately accessible to either side of the Ukraine war.
>>533201261>americans encounter a problemand solve it by shooting million dollar missiles at 5k dollar drones!>>533203059its the foreskin detector
>>533199464This tech should be mandatory for all guns, and it shouldn't let you shoot a person unless you're registered as part of a militia
>>533202985There’s a metric assload of info about even our most recently fielded radar technology available online, btw.
>>533202126They should actually have drone competitions instead of clay pigeons........more costly, but a lot more practical.
>>533199464>can't even let off a last ditch burst because you're locked out of your trigger subscription Kek
>>533202807mathematically convincing, but the sensor blanking part? that would cost a shekel or two.
>>533203101It's also not just chips. It's money and men. When you are begging for money to equip the vanned 18 year old femboys and 45 year old downseys with just the basics after their two weeks of training what's the point? It might do most of the aiming but you still need to operate it and half of them are too afraid to aim anyways. Not that I really blame them
between this and a semi-auto shotgun, I'd take my chances with the shotgun
>>533202910The demo was pathetic they were shooting non moving drones.
Person is going to hear the drone after its in effective range. Then they need to figure out where it is, and I have seen videos in Ukraine where this takes seconds(if they can see it at all). Then they need to bring the rapidly approaching drone into the sight picture, lock it then get the shot off before it gets within 10 meters.Good luck mutts.
>>533203226they should develop gyroscope assisted aiming.like tapping the point of focus when taking a pic. the rifle should then follow and selflock. problem with all this, the shooter wouldn't shoot actively, thus recoil effects would be unpredictable.
>>533203245Good thing isreal won't be paying for it I guess... Also it is still theoretical I haven't heard of them building anything they just had papers on how it would work and in the papers it was more for high value targets like a field command or when setting up a fob as an early warning system. The major advantage being even if the enemy knows it's there it would be very hard to defeat as the network is designed to integrate data from a wide variety of sensors and systems. Basically a live Intel system where if enough nodes go down and you get a dark spot you can fire off some more and patch it. It seems like it would cost way to much money but I could see some form ending up in service around large airfields and bases. How many billions in planes were pissed away this week? What's a couple sensors.>>533203395Kek anon at that point just build robots... Have you seen a gyro for just a camera?
>>533203395
Have you ever tried flying a drone by only observing it with your eyes during day time? The drone disappear a few meters away in the sky. You can barely hear it. I don't think you can detect a drone by eyesight until the moment its already too close. I think this shit sounds useless
I have to ask though. Seeing the shitshow in ukraine, how do they detect drones?
>>533200602theyre talking about the real assassin not the tranny actor you saw in grainy video footage
I have to ask though. Seeing the use of drones in ukraine, how do they detect drones? Drones seems to legit blindside them
>>533203575I know it isn't a gyroscope but you would probably need a similar counterbalance for the recoil stabilization while moving
>>533200201Bunch of boomer nonsense.
>>533202546>We have the technology to equip every soldier with a handheld highly directional beam-forming EMP weapThis doesn't exist, you're a pseud retard with no clue what the fuck you're talking about
>>533199464>our ships can't get within 1000 miles of Iran because they will be blown up>lets land a ground force so it can be blown up and confronted by Iran's million man army
>>533203762I mean we do technically have the technology... That doesn't make it not retarded
>>533202256this. nobody uses a rifle for skeet shooting.
>>533200120>Pretty sureThe entire video discusses the usage of a shape charge used in the mic Charlie Kirk used. The clip (43 min mark) is where Jon Bray explains the AES plant explosion connection, where these shaped charges were made.https://www.bitchute.com/video/UBesC7dQEvBt
>>533199791Likely difficult to engineer + you need the specialized chips.
>>533199791Because they aren't going to build expensive shit for nothing like the USA does
>>533200201That's bullshit. My 16-in is flat out past 300 near 350. And that's flat. You smoke too much dope. Or not enough.
>>533201261like others have said, using rifles against drones seems a bit retarded.
>>533203657They probably detect the magnetic field given off by the motors and electronics on the drone. I doubt they have these for every soldier, but one per platoon or squad is doable.
>>533203059It's a golf ball detector someone conned the Iraqi government into buying to detect IED's back after the second gulf war.
>>533203995I'm pretty sure you can't image small magnetic fields from very far away anon... Like feet.
>>533204077the whole thread is just a bunch of retards saying shit that pops into their head like an LLM with no clue what the fuck they're talking about
>>533199464>within 200mThat's already too late.
>>533203934It's not difficult and doesn't need special chips, what ever they are.It's just a scope that predicts trajectory using a laser distancer and pre-defined ballistic data. You pull the trigger and nothing happens unless you wave the crosshair over the calculated spot, at which point it fires, exactly like a trigger bot in a game hack.Why some retard thought this is better than a machine gun with tracers idk.Americans love making expensive gimmicky shit.Russians have their own drone counter measure tech, as do Ukrainians https://files.catbox.moe/7glal9.mp4
>>533203101>use there for several wars now. It's proven technologyOh please... The jewwars are them just bombing the shit out of non-military targets to try to destabilize an area or just going gloves off full genocide flatting of everything. They aren't setting up shop in country and trying to counter drones.Like I have no doubt they have small motion tracking systems or predictive firing mechanics etc. Stuff that works for a hardened outpost looking in one direction and maybe shooting down a commercial grade toy drone hovering for recon info.But there is no way a shitty rifle scope can protect from modern mil-grade attack drones going fast and from all angles. 360 degrees around you and above. Best case it can maybe work for a week. Then tactics change and it's worthless.
>>533204143Did you know of something that creates live images of small magnetic fields at 200m? I could be wrong I just have no idea what it would be...
>>533204143Kek maybe I'm wrong... What do you use to create a live image of a small magnetic field 200m away?
>>533203139I'll argue with the AI system until it recognizes every armed American Citizen as a member of the militia
>>533200602there was no shot faggot
>>533203545yeah, gyroassisted aiming was a joke. the sensor idea is interesting. question is cost and distribution. so many different types of drones now. detecting is only step one and might not even be feasible costwise. it's like those hollywood paranoias when they set up a sensor 'perimeter' on hostile planets. never ends well.
>>533199464>>533199464>SMASH 2000L smart scopeshttps://youtu.be/sFFVLdBLWg4
>>533199605Mohammedians seething
>>533199464>allowing firing only when the crosshairs alignVery impractical in combat still
>>533199605lmao
>>533199791They didIt’s called shotgun
>>533199605/thread
>>533199464Digits for sand to glass
>>533199791the vast majority of drone attacks are made on unsuspecting targets, you can't hear them coming from inside a car, and if you do hear it it's probably zooming at 150km/h right at you and you have less than 5 seconds to draw and fire.
>>533199464
>>533199464The slowest moving drone on the battlefield is going to cover that 200 meters in under 6 seconds
>>533199464why aren't ziggers using these if they're so good?
>>533199464they know you can't listen and see drones that are 200m away, but only 50 or less and then it's too late. How much does this cyber gadet cost Americans?? LOL!
>>533199464conflicts could just be drone dogfighting.why does anyone still pretend 'war' is anything other than a goyim lifesink
>>533199791It almost certainly doesn't work. Like when the US made their own loitering munitions drone that was sent to Ukraine and it never did anything. Somehow they still got contracts for it after.>>533200446>>533200262Absolutely horrendous idea. It's got the big limitation of a manpads with all of the stress of munitions coming directly at you. It just needs simple shoot/dont shoot in the crosshair or a tone like with manpads>>533201261The US has not encountered drones in the field.
I have to shave around these Africans. Can’t imagine having the freedom to have a beard; Must be nice!
>>533199464Israel already uses these and it didn't matter. The issue with drones is every second of every day they can come after you. If you aren't scoped in or are driving it won't matter.
>>533204787Guy is zoggmaxxing
>>533201261>>develop tech to counter it>>develop operational procedures to counter it>>develop military doctrine to counter it
>>533199791They did. In the movie "the courier", ukranian actress olga kurylenko destroys a drone that the bad guys sent to hunt her down and kill her. How? Simple. She lures it near to her (drones need good camera visibility, human operated). It's literally like tricking a human. She then comes up behind the drone and smashes it to pieces with a hammer. Simple 2$ hammer destroys 2 jewzillion dollar drone. Problem? We should just let women on the battlefield they will solve everything.
>>533199605Feest beest
>just shoot the drone brohere we go again...
>>533203101>Both sides of the Ukraine war suffer a terminal shortage of computer chips which makes high tech gadgets like this a luxury when you gotta shit out hundreds of drones daily insteadAlso jamming is by far the best method of taking down drones. On busier sectors of the front over half of drones are lost to EW
>>533205561you can't jam a wire clown
Drones are hard to spot, this won't amount to more than a 30% success rate. What's needed is a smart shoulder mini-turret with a 360 camera, until better emp/microwave/laser based solutions get developed.
>>533199824Yeah this is some peak boomer cancer>HURR DURR IT WON’T FIRE UNLESS YOU’RE ON TARGETIt’s probably some cretin at the MSM outlet not understanding what the fuck they’re actually talking about or a combination of MIC grifting. Because to stop these drones you just need a SIGINT device to track them coming at you and after a big ass emitter to jam the fuck out of them so they hover in place or fall silent.I’m sure the few capable R&D and procurement guys have figured this out and I want this faggot age of slav-retardation and cocksucking drone-faggots to end already. It’s an improvised guided munition and contrary to what they are spamming everywhere it is not the be-all-end-all of warfare because some hohols and vatniks found out they can strap their surplus PG-7V warheads to a fucking quadcopter drone.
>>533205892>Muh fibreopticsYeah have fun with your dollar-store TOW missile, its limited maneuverability.
>>533199464Unless it has fucking auto-aim it's not going to do shit, only shartgolems could be stupid enough to believe this shit, what good is it going to do when it sneaks up on you at 100mph from 20ft away? Fucking retards
>>533205892The vast majority of drones aren't fibre optic. They're less reliable because the cable is easily damaged (by the environment), you need replacement optical cable to reuse the drone, and they aren't immune to location spoofing
>>533199464If you every tried to use AIMbot or TRIGGERbot in FPS game you know this predestined to fail.
>go to beach>tape french fries to drone>fly into crowd of seagulls>do this every day>no more drones
>>533199791Because this doesn't work.
>>533203313Exactly as expected
>>533204947I hope punt guns return as anti-drone weapons.Every squad will have their punt-cunt, carrying a massive 0 gauge shotty. One full pound of lead every fucking shot.
>>533199464They’re fucked!
>>533202622Just shoot the thermobaric munition at them
>>533207534>>533199791> Why didn't Ukraine or Russia come up with something like this?fuck kikes, but this is an Israel techI guess:- it was still in development- Israel doesn't send aid to ukraine
>>533199605Fpbp
>>533199977500 yards? Dude thats bare minimum for range qual, if you're good with the rifle you can pull 700-1300 yardsWon't do you any good if u don't know what elevation ,distance, the rifle ain't zeroed right etc. That takes timeGrunts think they'll go out there and be the first ones to disable drone capabilities via expert shooting skillsNgmi
Wow, talk about a MIC scam. Ameriniggers will try to shoot drones.
>>533199464- Looks like it's relies on movement-detection to 'unlock the trigger'. (it's a triggerbot)- AI (in this iteration) doesn't deal with complex movement - so target needs blank backgrounds (so pointing at the sky is good)- One day all LAW (lethal autonomous weapons) US/chink/kike will will probably carry them against ground targets too.
>>533201261>Develop Hollywood propaganda to counter it
>>533199605
>>533199464I don't understand why someone can't invent counter drones with built in ai.Presumably a drone meant to take out a drone is smaller and faster because it doesn't have to carry out a huge payload.Maybe put some kind of mini emp on it that fries both drones when they touch.
>>533199464https://youtu.be/sFFVLdBLWg4?t=51>entire weapon has to be refit with the system>"ehh...at some point it will fire">insert shots of them shooting in the air over and over hitting nothing>bright white drones sitting still>only show the hitsfor fuck sake
>>533200294>(Why didn't Ukraine or Russia come up with something like this?)>they spend few drones to kill a single soldier1. drones are cheap these days - 3D printed2. the bomb dropping variety are reusable.>>533200015>useless in real combat.>Nobody likes this scope btw.>>533200367>We'll see how your boys do in real combat- they ARE USELESS engaging against ground targets (they are for dedicated anti-drone roles)- it's early iterations, they will get better (fuck israel)>>533200486>anti-anxiety morale-boosting placebo?It's definitely anti-anxierty (as it decides when the target lines up).But yeah, windage and solution is tough at long ranges (which is why it keeps repeating 200meters in all it's footage literature)>>533200120>Pretty sure something like this was used to kill Charlie Kirk.The AI is dumb and uses movement to for target acquisition (it's useless in crowds and ground targets)>>533201350>Why don't they use a shotgun?Still requires skill>>533206847>Muh fibreoptics>Yeah have fun with your dollar-store TOW missilefibre isn't used for hunting, it's for ambushing (after another drone is acting as spotter)
can't they just use electro magnetic wave or jamming to disrupt their connection.
>>533199464Maybe they'll help in an open desert with half the platoon shooting at the drone, until you're forced into urban warfare trying to seize their tunnels and nuclear plants.
>>533199791Dude they are sacrificing the males and redistributing the females and children to their nearby colonies (EU). The whole point is to get rid of the males, why would they do something like that?
>>533199605Can't wait too see it in action. It will either work or be total failure which will be kino anyway
>>533199605Hey how dare you denigrate the WarMutts of Zog.
>>533203913Mental illness
>>533199791Because it's a meme.
>>533200262>THE FIRST MAN TAKES A GUN>THE SECOND MAN TAKES THE AMMUNITION>WHEN THE FIRST MAN DIES THE MAN WITH THE AMMUNITION PICKS UP THE GUN, LOADS >WHEN THE SECOND MAN DIES THE THIRD PICKS UP THE GUN AND REMOVES THE SCOPE/SAFTEY>WHEN THE THIRD MAN DIES THE FOURTH MAN PICKS UP THE GUN, DISCARDS THE SCOPE AND SHOOTS!
>>533208629It just needs to have a chain to shred props.
>>533199464>Oh no, they got them smart scopes, fellas!Wonder how a smart scope equipped mutt will fare against the kamikaze drones.
>>533199464IRL aimbot, enjoy you VAC ban
>>533199464>computer vision to lock onto targets and allowing firing only when the crosshairs align.What happens if they want to engage something other than a drone? Do they need to take the sights off?
>>533199464time for someone to invent the chain-shotgun and fill it full of birdshot just for countering drones. full auto with birdshot.
>>533208629It's already used by Russians, look up Yolka drone interceptors.
>marines>getting jack shitYou can only pick one.
>>533204825they are making fun of you, laughing, having fun.that is very different from being butthurt and mad
>>533199791The real answer: Slavs are retarded.Ignore all the other posts.
>>533211920Surely two countries with by far the most experience in drone warfare are just too dumb to use ballistic calculators
>>533199464>hey provide a >95% hit probability against drones up to 200mYou mean one drone at a time?
>>533211980Throughout all of Slavic history they have never given a fuck about their Infantry.>napoleonic wars: slavs suffer the highest death toll>ww1: slavs suffer the highest death toll>ww2: slavs suffer the highest death toll, so high that the russian/ukrainian deaths alone are the highest war death toll in all of historySlavs don’t give a fuck about their troops, which is why they don’t give them any fancy toys.If you aren’t aware of this then you’re simply just historically illiterate.
>>533212299not arguing whether they care about their troops or not, or whether they are retarded or notthose are still not the same things, and "Slavs" (Russia and Soviet Russia in particular) has certainly created all kinds of spicy equipment and weapons systems
>>533208153The 5.56 counter-uas ammunition they use only has an effective range of 30 meters. https://militarnyi.com/en/news/usa-tests-5-56-mm-anti-drone-round-small-arms-become-precision-air-defense/
>US Marines >Fire controlTwo incompatible things
>>533201261>develop tech to counter it>>develop operational procedures to counter it>>develop military doctrine to counter it>Russians enounter a problem>>throw men at it>>throw more men at it>>throw even more men at it>>gain nothing in your ground war while 1000 men/day are killedtrump should use the new lasers systems they have made iran would good to test them out
>>533199464.Kills Iranian/BRICS Drones better than anyone else
>Scope works only up to 200 meters>You have a couple seconds to find from where the drone is coming, then aim, and try to take it outRetards think a drone attack is like the staged ukranian execution vids where there's a guy alone in an open flat field and the drone comes straight at him?
>>533199464most kills are don't on people who aren't currently aware they are being attacked.
>>533206800Yeah the only question is how many mystery meat soldiers do you need to turn into ground beef before all the technological and logistical wrinkles are ironed out
>>533199464Put the scope on a computer controlled gun on a tripod. Have the gun auto aim using microphones setup to hear drones and then rapidly scan the area with the scope until the cross hairs align.
>>533203313dafuck is the point shooting a moving target then… youd have to lead the shot, which this system precisely prevents
>>533199464>by using computer vision to lock onto targetswhat's Marine for then? to slow down shooting?
Honestly after seeing all these drone videos, the best defense is gorilla warfare, since drones can't to heavy forest very well, being spread the fuck out, like don't stand near or march near each other, and semi automatic shotguns with large magazines, and wide chokes. To be honest though, seems a bit silly they haven't been able to make an auto aim turret that uses the loud ass drone noise to aim and just saturate the area with shot. But what do I know!
>>533215284Use a wide spread magnetron like an lrad to fry drones as a company level weapon like an hmg
>>533199747>M4 isn't a long-range rifle, is it?500m isn't far enough?
>>533199605>>533199464Japanese deploying the Phillipines with high tech anti aircraft scopesCirca 1942
>>533211909shut the fuck up, ACKmed
>fire in a straight lineAnother weapon used for money laundering in Muttmerika
>>533215878You didn't see nearly enough videos then, because they are more than happy to blow a single soldier alone, even sending multiple drones for it.>muh shotgunsYou can count in one hand the videos where they manage to down a drone with them.
>>533215878>gorilla warfareWhat the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead, kiddo.
>>533201261Somehow you forgot to add what Russia is killing at least 15 to 1 gunning down meatwave hordes of retarded mongoloid rapebabies kidnapped from the streets and every single meat wave recorded was the ukranians orc rushing just to be culled by Russia artillery 10 min later. Who am i kidding you probably one of the monogloid fucks yourself escapping from your personal meatwave spot, tarasik.
>>533217041Kek
>>533217125Even you know this is true and life of your compatriot worth less than a roll of used toilet paper. Now try to tell me with a straight face what savage orcs fighting with meat waves somehow losing less than a high tech while civilization with 10x+ advantage in weapons.
>>533216157Now that's funny.
>>533217041>Russia is killing at least 15 to 1Ah hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.Fuck off you pidor shill.
>>533217262>Sorry guys all the English speaking Russians are dead, bare with me
>>533200262basically you just die and some Jew somewhere sells a scope and another sells a drone
>>533199605fpbp
>>533217041You are almost as frothy and delusional as MIGA and JIDF. Amusing!
>>533199605fpbp>hey goyim we have a new jewish anti-drone scope!>you can come and die for israel now! XD
>>533201609coast guard fights every war too, dummy.
>>533199464I don't see how this is supposed to work.Do they expect the drones to line up like in a shooting gallery? Is it Duck Hunt?
>>533202582Interesting. I wonder how well they work on FPV drones zipping around at 50+mph? I imagine this will only cause escalation from human pilots to AI pilots that can maneuver even faster than humans can.
>>533206800Aren't the drones controlled with fiber optic cables? Can those be jammed?
>>533217917Nope.They took the idea from the Galaga.
>>533200446It takes 5.6 seconds for a drone going 80 mph to close 200 meters. Those are not great odds.
>>533202317>Their useless cope cages>Our innovative "roof screens">>533202807Judging by previous shitraeli "inventions" such as the iron dome it'll either never be released or it won't work.A sensor sensitive enough to detect a drone flying 500 meters above it is not going to be cheap and therefore won't be able to be deployed in huge numbers. Plus their batteries would run out. You gonna slap a solar panel onto each one? LMAO>>533202910It's a typical Amerimutt MIC scam that doesn't work>>533213664>30 metersanother MIC scamThey test it on stationary drones hovering in place and that is enough to fool retarded Fentagon boomers, they get their gorillion dollars and mission accomplished>>533217262>roll of used toilet paperyou guys put your shitstained toilet paper back into a roll?
>>533200602You know what it takes to make a shot at that range? Everything comes into play that far - humidity, elevation, temperature, wind, spindrift. There's a 6 to 10-second flight time so you have to shoot at where the target's going to be. Even the Coriolis effect, the spin of the Earth, comes into play. You believe there's a shooter involved capable of making this shot?Nope, whoever took that shot's probably dead now. That's how conspiracy works. Them boys on the grassy knoll, they were dead within three hours. Buried in the damn desert. Unmarked graves out past Terlingua.
>>533205500Are you really this stupid? You are basing your entire argument off of a movie, not reality. Watch the Uki/Russ vids, they show you the reality on the ground.
>>533202411net guns work drones are too fast though
>>533208153this. lot of ukraine vids showing a 'drop grenade' drone hover above a group of unsuspecting people in the open. judging by drop time those are well below 100m and still go undetected until it's too late. their precision is scary. without early warning systems there's little that can be done. psychowar is my guess. make em not use drones. or else.
>>533208629there will be sensor swarms, as well as attack swarms and defense swarms. economies of scale, new battery tech ahead. endless possibilities. to kill and make a shekel by it.
>>533218081Yes. No.
>>533199464>SMASH 2000L smart scopesis that like wall hack and aim bot or something?
>>533206800>jam the fuck out of themHe doesn't know.
Would the recoil of a rifle be too much for a temu quadcopter drone?
>>533199464> Targetting AI confused by movement- fly close to the ground - use the moving background as disruption
>>533206800what happens to your plan, when the drone is controlled by wire or has a preprogrammed flight path
>>533199464test
>>533199605they will probably mount these rifles onto ground-based doggo drones that will go along with fire teams
>>533199464This could work really well but the round should be lower powered. You don't need such a powerful round to take out a drone. It will be much more accurate with less recoil.
>>533199464>marines using triggerbotBan US
>200m effectiveOk so a drone flying at 300 kmh, you have two whole seconds to aim, targer and sholt the drone. Lol this is just a pacifier for the goys dying for Israel
>>533199747200m is will within the M4's range. Are you retarded or did you just not read?
>>533221961There are detection systems that alert approach. Its been developed over the past 8 years. From the moment its in flight it is detectable. Don't ask don't tell.
>>533221576>lower powered.556 isn't a particularly powerful round and your understanding of ballistics in general is lacking. A less powerful round isn't more accurate. Why do you even believe something that retarded?
>>533199605We can only hope those pedophile/pedo defenders eat a fistful of shrapnel
>>533221576they've seen you and your position is known, before you've seen them. if you ever do. at that point they have accomplished mission. few scenarios in which one would get to shoot at them, but if the scope leads to some success, why not. would love to see it in action.
>>533222222>Wasted
>>533222279
>>533222050>200m is will within the M4's rangeConfirmed, I plink at 150-200 yards with my AR, 16" barrel
>>533199464Apparently there is already a soon to be commercially available anti drone round that works with standard ARs. I.e a standard round that breaks apart into smaller pellets. Guys in the vid talk about how it’s much easier to have 2-3 mags of specialty ammunition rather thang lugging another primary. Being able to put down 30 rounds that breaks into another 3-4 mid air works. They also talk about how since it’s an AR the rounds have more kinetic energy so one pellet rips through the done more effectively compared to birdshot. Also the pattern is tighter meaning you can hit a travelling or early spotted drone. https://youtu.be/Z_VNnkB-i54?si=UBRUdz8gKwHXSk-M
>>533207968vote for jew leadersjews still forsake ukek the ukranda is a shithole
>>533222222REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>533199464>95% hit probability at 200mHow large is the drone and is it moving? Because using military issue weapons plus military grade bulk ammo makes that extremely unlikely even if you discount factors like wind etc. Bad publicity stunt.
>>533199464>allowing firing only when the crosshairs alignSo the rifle is jammed by default until the scope gives permission to fire?
>>533199605Kek popped my ass
>>533222561I bet they shot at stationary targets. Hitting a moving quadcopter with a rifle in the time it requires to approach your position and explode is highly unlikely. A high-frequency machine gun with automated target detection and fire control may be good enough to intercept drones. Humans are not.
>>533199824also there's a 5% chance it missed when it fired
>>533222455a helpful development. still requires ideal conditions as daytime visibility. interesting video. look at that thing fly. the landscape, man. ah, to have raum as a volk.
>>533199464LMAO you still gotta line up the shot dumb nigs A shockwave would be better and cost 1/10th the price
>>533199464Does it work as well as the interceptors that have completely failed in the Middle East for the last 2 months?
>>533224884I believe the "no refunds" policy works just as well.
>200m range>drones go about 20m/s>10 seconds to shoot it down, if you know it's comingDoesn't sound great lmao
>>533199464No way?! The ground troops must be landing in another 2 weeks then, right?!?!?! And what about the draft? Will I get one of these cool scopes after I get drafted like /pol/ said I would? I sure hope we have enough missiles before then!
>>533199791Because it won't work
>>533199605heh great post reddit sis, would upvote you if i could!
>>533199605This lol
>>533199605Kekirono
>>533199464Even if this works, is small arms fire going to do anything against military drones?
>>533201609>He doesn't know
>>533222673I would trust an optic like that before myself ever to hit a drone with anything. People really think they can hit a 300 mph spicy baseball even with a shotgun.
>>533199464Who came up with this? When are you retards going to embrace shotgun meta?
>>533199464quadcopter interceptor drones? no problem. The 300 mph drones they use to intercept shaheds? good fucking luck.
>>533199747Perhaps they intend to press the bullet button to allow the clip to fire 2000 rounds per second?
>>533227453People don't really like methods with a less than 1% success rate
>>533227063Depends on the weapon, but some precision rifles can disable light armor vehicles.
>>533199791Because they are white niggers
>>533199464Look on the bright side! Shekelberg wins from getting richer by selling useless meme weapons! Iran wins by having Zogbots fertilize their soil! And we win by getting more drone kino! Win Win Win!!!Just get a fucking shotgun and pray you can shoot the drone before it reaches you. Nobody unironically expects these rifles to do anything.
>>533200257Drill the oil, something something
>>533227964a portion of beans fertilized by dead mutts would be thrice my weekly sugar intake ese
Just wait till the niggers get a hold of this tech
>>533199605This really made the zogbots seethe.
>>533200262I'm not sure. The radio wave anti-drone gun was your best bet. Going ammunition to kill drones is just dumb, but hey, I'm sure it works as well. Actually pretty sure they are using both so w/e
>>533199464Why not just stay home and not die for Israel, hasn't that ever occurred to them?
>>533224781They still use radiowave or EMP... I mean it's not like it's one or the other you dumbass, everyone is grappling with ways to stop Drones. we're all in this together.
>>533206847>>533207241>>533205561Lol. You guys have no clue what they're doing. They get a spool of fiber. It's the thin stuff like fishing line. It connects from the drone to the operator and unwinds as it flys. I saw one guy who literraly hooked it up like he was fishing. You can get a mile of the stuff pretty cheap in comparison to the cost of the equipment they hit with them. I dont know the current price but i found a 2025 quote of $5.83 per kilometer from China
>>533206800>jam the fuck out of them so they hover in place or fall silentUh oh, someone does not know about spiderwebs...
>>533203624>The SMASH 2000L detects drones using advanced computer vision, AI-driven image processing, and electro-optical sensors to identify and lock onto targets. The Smart Shooter system analyzes imagery to track fast-moving small drones, calculating their speed, direction, and range to ensure a high-probability, one-shot hit.
>>533202328Russians put spring beds over their tanks during ww2 to help combat panzerfausts. We've come full circle.
>>533203101If a beaner druggie can cook up an stm32-powered drone with aliexpress specials as components, you can bet your boipussy the russians are under no material constraints there.
>>533199605>smartest zog-loyal golem corpses ever
