So how do you usually see Taiwan? Is it grouped with Japan and Korea, or viewed differently? You may want to live either in Japan as a Zainichi or korea as a sexpat loser but how about Taiwan?
>>533246906>TaiwanNo such country
>>533246906Taiwan numba oneI don't think much about Taiwan but they are more Chinese in my imagination
>>533246906ROC is not the legitimate government of China as they have lost the war.
>>533246906Taiwan is a Chinese colonial project, an Austronesian island recently settled by the Han. Even now they struggle with their self identity
Idk the only Taiwan girl I know went to my Catholic school she was pretty hot and tan like nagatoro
>>533246906Very plastic from silicon wafer contaminated waters
I dont know anything about taiwan but theres clearly a lot of hubris in being a small island sovereign country next to the most powerful country in the world. its a bit annoying actually. itd be nice if china did something about it
>>533246906>East District, Tainana weird specificity. taiwan is a low tier chinese province. like Fujian. one big city, one small city and the rest is rural to varying degrees. would a chinese person want to live in Fujian? no, unless they were from there.
>>533246906Honestly I only know them as the chip / motherboard / GPU making country, and the protests and their relationship with mainland China; culturally I have no idea what they export.
>>533247213Which provinces would you rank as top tier?
>>533246906>TaiwanChina #1>KoreaChina #2>JapanChina #3...
>>533246906It's like S vs N Korea but are hellhole for the normal people but different ideologies raping their asses thus proving Cap and Com are the same jewish lies.
>>533247283>ChinaNot even China anymore
>>533246906Taiwan is the true China Pretty sure we supported them militarily to some degree
>>533246906malaysian birds are as yellow as i'll go, so idgaf.
>>533246906China with LGBT
>>533247785Unironically the best description of taiwan. It looks like china, it's full of chinks, and the only difference is you see lgbtqlmnop flags in the windows.
>>533246906>So how do you usually see Taiwan?It belongs to China
>>533246906YELLOW PERIL FUCK CHYNA FUCK CHINKS
>>533247283Learn the differences between Japanese people and other Asians.While “Chin-Chon-Chan” is considered a derogatory term for Asians,“Chin” is a common name among Chinese people,“Chon” is a common name among Koreans,“Chan” is a common name among Chinese people.That’s why it refers to them—and why I don’t feel anything when it’s said to me as a Japanese person.
>>533246906Would all. Short haired are a little bizarre but still would.
>>533247044>no control>repeatedly claim to have wonThanks Trump-Xi-Ping
>>533248808DESUWA
>>533246906>So how do you usually see Taiwan?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Terror_(Taiwan)
>>533246906>picarr rook same
>>533246906I spend over 2 months in Taiwan for work per year, trips to China as well (unfortunately). There's a huge difference between the the two. Taiwan is an amazing place, really enjoyable. China on the other hand...
>>533248808Japanese are just island Koreans
I would never go there. The only Asian nations I would move to if it was that or death are Japan, Hong Kong, and maybe SK. The rest are too third world for me and I would just rather live amongst Whites if that were an option.Taiwan I just see as Hong Kong 2 and don't think about it, but I do think they are better than the mainland Chinks since they were founded by nationalists rather than communists and did all the real legwork in WW2
>>533246906Why would it be grouped with Japan or KoreaIt's literally China. It doesn't matter if you think it's "the real China" or "fake China" but regardless of your perspective it's some sort of China
I think it's fucking hilarious that the KMT are the ones pushing for reunification with China. They are the people that fought the ChiComs in the civil war, fucked off to Taiwan and ruled it with an iron fist until the 1980s. Now they'd rather reunite with the mainland than be under the heel of the USA.Fair enough too.China could take Taiwan tomorrow simply for the reason the orange idiot wasted so many missiles in the gulf.What a retard.
>>533249489Honestly if they don't take it I think it means they are even weaker than the paper tiger meme says.Trump just showed how shit the US is at warfare right now.I hope they don't do that, but honestly if it damages the current kike order maybe I would be okay with it. If the US goes into a crisis and can't find any loyalty to the state, they might be forced to be pro White again on some level.
>>533249571I think the Chinese are just milking how invested America and the rest of us are in for them to supply us cheap shit. Our supply chains go right back to China now, even for military stuff. The longer they can keep doing that, the stronger they get.America doesn't seem capable or even interested in stopping China.
>>533247044They are the legitimate government of the island of Taiwan, since they are the democratically elected government of the people living on that island.They are not the legitimate government of mainland China.
>>533249773It is a two way street though, China's entire economy also revolves around selling the west cheap shit. Their population is so huge that they need all the jobs. Ironically once the west falls, they are going to have a huge crisis too. I don't know why people think globalization is a good idea over self relaince when one kink in the machine completely shuts it down
>>533249796Democracy means jack shit.
>>533249361Yeah and they knew it; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissen_d%C5%8Dsoron
>>533249925I'd much rather be the country that has all the factories and has built up massive foreign reserves than being the de-industrialized debtor country.
>>533247044>Lost the war Citation needed
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>>533250131China is definitely going to be a bigger bloodbath than us because of the huge population and very real possibility of turbo depression/famineIt isn't like the west couldn't rebuild factories. The only reason we aren't is because of kikes and boomers who instead of subsidizing things like that demand we give billions to non Whites, Israel, etc
>>533246906They're just weeb and gay chimks
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>>533249361Since they are geographically close, it stands to reason that they are genetically close as well.Since a person’s appearance is influenced not only by genes but also by climate and diet,this simply means that their cultures differ significantly.In other words, overall, Koreans and Chinese are essentially the same.It’s the same as how Germans and Spaniards don’t look alike but are genetically close.
>>533246906I'd say most people wouldn't group Taiwan with Japan/Korea beyond all of them being in East Asia. Taiwan is seen more as a manufacturing hub, in contrast with Japan/Korea.
>>533246906Taiwan is part of Fujian province.
Taiwan is just a renegade Chinese province. Just because they lost the legitimacy in 1970s doesn't mean they can change the rule based on their convenience. They're just a glorified chink American base now
>>533246906Taiwan died with Chang its better than China now in terms of living standards but the gov is totally liberal
>>533246906I don't care what country they are from, Chinese women = SEX
>>533246906Taiwan is not a real country, first of all.I don’t have a high opinion of asians outside of Korea and Japan. Chinamen are mostly dumb cattle.
>>533247348>Taiwan is the true ChinaMost Taiwanese do not even consider themselves Chinese, you retard.>Pretty sure we supported them militarily to some degreeNo you did not. Unless you mean during WW2 when Taiwan was still part of Japan and you both fought for the Axis.
>>533253389>Taiwan died with Chang What a strange thing to say. Chiang literally tried to destroy Taiwan and turn into a second China. Taiwan exists only because he failed and died and his shitty military dictatorship collapsed.
>>533246906I group it with Japan and South Korea but I kind of imagine it as like Hong Kong before the CCP shit it up, basically a peek at what China would be like without a century of communist damage
>>533247044Almost nobody in Taiwan today was involved in the Chinese Civil War and nobody cares about it anymore and nobody still wants to be the legitimate government of China.The ROC does not functionally exist except on paper and has not for like 35 years now. C’mon boomer. https://www.taiwandc.org/feer-2003-01.htm
>>533254672>shitty military dictatorshipOnly good commie is a dead commie
>>533254765>basically a peek at what China would be like without a century of communist damageNo.
>>533254863>Only good commie is a dead commieMost of the people he killed were not communists.Also his party is now the pro-China party. And the people whose families he killed and imprisoned are the people who make up the anti-PRC party today.
slave colony.for reference a top tier computer chip engineer in taiwan on average makes the equivalent of $60,000usd
Baka gaijin here, I have never been to Taiwan, but I interact with them constantly in Japan.From what I can gather, they have a quite good standard of living, similar or slightly superior to that of Japan.But they have no culture.It's all Chinese, yet they do not see themselves as Chinese, so they are on a limbo, there is a huge identity vacuum. And they fill it with modern culture and media, becoming a soulless people.Very similar to South Korea in that aspect, except South Korea also became a major producer of vapid content, not just a consumer. Taiwan just takes whatever it can get from Japan.Their population is declining fast, young people are all individualistic, and as much as they don't consider themselves Chinese, they have almost all of the same bad habits, except for personal hygiene, which they are good at.They have the same issue with being rude, loud, breaking rules they don't agree with, throwing money at problems, being secretive and upholding clan behavior in their host nation. Clan behavior is natural, but they truly isolate, other peoples at least try to socialize a little and figure out the rest of the social landscape.Appearance-wise they are not that distinct from the Japanese, although their phenotypes are more limited than that of the Japs.Due to aculturation, they are very liberal in a destructive way, it is not political, more like hedonistic.And they have the same poor academic mindset of being memorization insects that can't learn anything from intuition, it is really sad to see. Although I have met some outliers whose minds I loved, very intelligent and autistic people.As a nation, their only truly based aspect is keeping Traditional Chinese instead of simplified slop.
>>533249417>since they were founded by nationalists rather than communists and did all the real legwork in WW21) Most Taiwanese people are descended from Chinese men who arrived from Southern China during the Ming and Qing. Neither nationalism nor communism existed yet. They drove the indigenous people to near extinction and stole their women and land and killed or assimilated them. Taiwan was ceded to Japan after the Qing lost the First Sino-Japanese War in 1895. Everybody in Taiwan was given a choice, move to mainland China if you want to stay Chinese or convert to being Japanese if you want to keep living in Taiwan. 2) During WW2 Taiwan was part of Japan and Taiwanese fought for Japan. Taiwan only became part of the ROC *after* Japan lost WW2 and everybody in Taiwan was forced to revert back to being Chinese.
It's a client state to hold our tech factories
>>533255608>But they have no culture.It's all Chinese, yet they do not see themselves as Chinese, so they are on a limbo, there is a huge identity vacuum.Their perception is that Taiwanese culture is based on Hokkien and Hakka culture from Southern China, mixed with Austronesian aboriginal culture and Japanese culture. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_TaiwanGreater pan-Chinese culture and Chinese consciousness is viewed as an alien imposition on Taiwan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanization
>>533246906definitely somewhere along the lines of Japan or Korea but with less magnitude. I think it's one of the most interesting countries in the world today. In one century they went from overthrowing a 2000 year old dynasty, to nearly getting overthrown themselves, to becoming a keystone in global trade after running away to an island. I think it's probably a good thing that island was insulated from the great leap forward.
>>533257261>I think it's one of the most interesting countries in the world today. In one century they went from overthrowing a 2000 year old dynasty, to nearly getting overthrown themselves, to becoming a keystone in global trade after running away to an island.About 12% of Taiwan’s population is descended from the nationalists who lost the Chinese Civil War and fled to Taiwan.9/10ths of Taiwan’s population has absolutely no connection at all to what you described.
>>533246906So to answer your question OP.Most people on here literally don’t know anything at all about Taiwan and aren’t qualified to have any sort of opinion on it one way or the other.
>>533257453they're flying the ROC flag. If that 12% is picking the flag they must be calling the shots. I'm sure they were behind the decision to invest in the computer chip industry as well. It doesn't seem insignificant.
>>533257453what the fuk are u even talking about? cherry picking and leaving out the intro part of google search?>>search on google ethnic makeup of taiwanHoklo/Minnan (Taiwanese Hokkien): The largest group, making up around 70–72% of the population, with roots in southern Fujian province, having arrived largely before 1945.Over 95% of Taiwan's 23.4 million people are Han Taiwanese, categorized into Hoklo (approx. 70%), Hakka (12–15%), and "mainlanders" (waishengren) who arrived post-1945. The remainder includes about 2.3–2.5% indigenous Austronesian peoples, along with a growing number of foreign spouses and residents. The population is largely a result of historical immigration from mainland China mixed with long-standing indigenous communities.Native vs. Mainlander: The Hoklo and Hakka are often referred to as "native Taiwanese" (benshengren) because they migrated before 1945, while "mainlanders" arrived later.did u just copy paste from google and somehow cut the parts where it obviously says chinese.just why would dumbasses like you post wrong info on purpose... oh let me think, either a jap cunt or weeaboo somehow still think the island belongs to them because of MuH EmPire daysyou dont own shit on that island after you lost the war retarded weebs. what remains is the remnant of de facto government due to losing a civil war.
>>533258178>If that 12% is picking the flag they must be calling the shots. No they don’t call the shots anymore and have not since the late 1980s.The flag like the official name ROC is a grandfathered in relic of a bygone era.Those that fled China have mostly died at this point. Most left their family behind in China. They were originally forbidden from marrying Taiwanese women. Although it was lifted still many of them remained single and lonely for life. Many killed themselves or immigrated from o the US. The descendants of those who remarried to Taiwanese women are a small disappearing and disgruntled minority in Taiwan. They are unhappy with the taiwanization that has occurred since the 90s and in response to Taiwan changing, most now support closer ties with the PRC.https://youtu.be/pRq9B_-svvU?si=v2ApuyMkM7ciNKCj
>>533258364Yes I mentioned all this in previous posts. Such as >>533255914They left Southern China and settled in Taiwan before the Qing Dynasty fell and were conquered by Japan before the ROC existed. They have no connection at all to anything that happened in China during the ROC period. None.Two totally separate people and nations.
>>533246906i love all of asia(indians will never be asian)
>>533246906>picjapanese names are so much better
>>533246906All I know is that they have stinky womenWhat's up with that? Why are they so stinky?I thought they'd had the genetics to not have BO like other east asians
>>533246906>>533257453>>533258364>>533250847>>533248808surely ugly jap cunt takaichi is going to revive muh empire and take back the islands and land we lost during WW2 (after you stole them)...with ingenious reforms and independnt political decision making, totally not on her knees sucking on donald's dick serving americunt interests>lets post redacted info from google copy paste to make ourselves seem legitare you even jap? with that kinda low IQ must be a baka fukin gaijin
>>533246906They're chinks but slightly friendlier but only on the surface. Because they share the same genes as mainland chinks they're soulless and will backstab you to get ahead.
>>533259317You sound really retarded anon.
>>533246906I only want to have sex with beautiful Japanese girls
>>533246906Don't care. China without CCP. Nuke and give back to the natives
>>533260007>China without CCP. Nope
>>533258594>i'm going to ask a LLM to summarize an opinion survey about self identification involving a highly political topic. Yes I believe this is infallible.you're programmed to spew this bullshit out with a iphone filename, this is pointless I might as well talk to a good LLM
>>533260659It’s actually a screenshot from a CNN article. I didn’t use an LLM.Also this is just indisputably true. Identity in Taiwan is one of the most well polled and discussed and debated in the world because it’s so contentious. Anybody (including you) can spend some time looking this stuff up.It’s your own choice to be an ignorant retard.
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>>533261903Taiwan was still part of Japan during ww2.Taiwanese served in the Japanese military. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwanese_Imperial_Japan_ServicemanTaiwan became part of the ROC after WW2 was over. You are the retard here. Read a book.
>>533246906I'm just like them fr
>>533246906It's chinks living on an island 10 miles from them, what is with jews and golems talking like a difference in governance or religion transmogrifies them into a completely unlinkable genealogy, it's like saying pakistanis and pajeets are different because one side broke off to be muslim and one side stayed hindu, they're the same people.
>>533246906Taiwan is what China could have been. It proves that the Han can thrive when not bogged down by the CCP's authoritarian garbage. That's why they want to conquer it so badly.
>>533255257GDP per capita of...Taiwan: 37,830Mainland China: 14,874The Taiwanese are over 2.5 times wealthier than the Chinese on average.
>>533263915I think it actually is kind of similar in that India is a huge place with a ton of internal diversity. People from Pakistan I believe are quite similar to people from the region of India that borders Pakistan but as you get deeper into India they get to be quite different.People from Taiwan are quite similar to people from Fujian, China. Not some similar to people from other regions of China.>>533264831>Taiwan is what China could have been.No
>>533246906Gaijin = white peopleZainichi = non-Japanese AsianNanban = Latino and Aussie
>>533250106>theory>lying kikesWikipedia is shit.
>>533248808So your saying japs love ochinchin
>>533246906You call us GaijenWe call you squinty eyed yellow bug man
>>533246973True, it's called the Republic of China.
>>533246906SEAmonkey island shuffle around between powers and now fully chinked.
>>533246906>How do you generally view Taiwan from Gaijin's perspective?See >>533246973Taiwan is Chinese soil.
>>533265473I mean it was created before they had DNA tests and part of the scientific theory is that the Japanese people are descended from the Japanese deity Amaterasu and the Korean people from Susanoo, her younger brother.So modern DNA does confirm that modern Japanese people are about 9/10ths Korean invader and 1/10th original indigenous Japanese so that part of the theory is basically true. But the part of the theory about them both being descendants of those two sibling god and goddess is umm not super scientific by modern standards.
>>533265620It’s actually just called Taiwan by most people.
>>533246906Gaijin here. I generally view Taiwanese as above Koreans. About on par with Japanese. Japanese are cooler though.
>>533246906its very clearly its own countryit has a different government structure than china different values than china the chink cope about taiwan not being a real country feels like cope to me and most ''gaijin''
>>533257261>overthrowing a 2000 year old dynastyQing was 250 years old, not 2000.
>>533266213Much more importantly it was not overthrown by Taiwan.Taiwan was part of Japan and Taiwanese people were Japanese citizens when the Qing Dynasty fell. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Japanese_rule
>>533246906Good Milk Tea Coffee place lan fong yen, the locals shout loudly but the MTC is soo good
>>533266725Oh wait that's Hong Kong, Taiwan? Oh yea the LGBT Capital of Asia, fuck that place.
>>533246906Zogged, just like your country and mine.
>>533249443Taiwan is like the bastard child of China and JapanIf you think it's got nothing in common you're a dumbassThere's so many Okinawans living permanently in Taipei
>>533268483>Taiwan is like the bastard child of China and JapanTaiwan is literally China. It is the country of China, it houses the government of China.There are two Chinas, it doesn't change the fact that they're both China.
>>533246906I dig all slanty Asian chicks, even the brown ones. Konichiwa dudes!
>>533268614No it is not. https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/news/6003655
We couldn't even point to it on a map, or Tibet, xingiang, but we're quiet sure that none of them belong to China, because that's what we decided.We don't even remember the time we invaded China, burnt half of it down, sacked Beijing, dethroned their monarchy. Our awareness of the opium war is effectively nill, we just know the Chinese migrants who came here fucking loved opium. Our awareness of the boxer rebellion is limited mostly to IP man, despite watching at 4,5,6 of them the subtext is totally lost on us and we can't tell the difference between jet li, Bruce li, Jackie Chan and the Hawaiian guy from mythbusters. Our knowledge of Chinese culture comes mainly from fortune cookies and Thai prostitutes. But I ask you hanbanniggers. Does our total ignorance of China make us weak and stupid?Or does your empire just mean nothing, did every Chinese empire mean nothing, and were all of them trampled by tiny foreign armies who had no idea who you even were? Doesn't our sheer ignorance scare you a little.
>>533247147Kinmen County is less than 10 miles away from China. The fucking chinks can't even get that under their control. What the fuck are they doing?
>>533246906lol, mpst ppl would not even find taiwan on a map let alone have enough info to form a coheisive opition abt it. but ppl enjoy runnig their mouth about matters they are unfamiliar with.
>>533246906my favorite hentai artist is taiwanese, so they are ok
We also have literally no idea who the Taiwanese are, whether they're Chinese, Indian, African, Japanese, no idea. But we also don't care, Taiwan doesn't belong to China because that's what we decided, so who exactly they are means nothing to us. You know this seven dash line business where the Chinese emperor just looked at a map and said "that is mine"? Well western powers did the same thing on google earth. We made a whole call of duty game about how those islands are ours, many people think these islands only exist in the video game and are not real, but either way, they belong to us. What happens in Taiwan, what do they produce, do we pack winter, summer or tropical uniforms? Often we invade counties with the wrong uniform because we couldn't evenbe bothered to check. We've done that what...6 times? The seven nation army didn't even have matching arm bands they just turned up in whatever they were wearing the day before. Defend Taiwan? From who? It belongs to us. If we turn up it will be in the wrong uniforms, we will land in Taiwan and fight everyone who isn't white and doesn't run away, probably trash Taiwan, then when we realise how close it is to China we will invade China and trash it as well. Because that's exactly what we did when seizing Japan, we realised China was really close. We didn't even want China it just happened to be next to Japan, and we like islands. Everyone Confucius until they get punched in the face by someone who mistook them for jackie Chan.
>>533270824So true
>>533247261guangdong, jiangsu, shanghai, the main cities hangzhou and wenzhou of zhejiang, not the small cities. no reason to be in wenzhou if you aren't chinese though.
>>533246906>japan, korea, china, taiwandoes it have the same relation like the germanic, the slav or the latin countries like>germany, austria, switzerland>russia, poland, czech republic>italy, france, greeceetc. ?
>>533246906Taiwan has cultural influences from Japan which makes their women more cute and kawaii but also more cold and heartless, like Japanese women.
I view Taiwan as part of china, and taiwanese coastal chinese.
>>533270824A chink once told me>My country is roughly 5000 years old>Yours is barely a few hundredsTo which I replied>I hope we won't be as meaningless as you in 5000 years
asian women look like space aliens
>>533272204Germany and east-germany would be more fitting, since the original islanders got absolutely fucked when nationalist warband(s) came and started essentially ethnically cleansing them.
>>533269223>news articleNot even clicking on that, doesn't change the fact that the literal Chinese government is ruling taiwan
>>533272487> the literal Chinese government is ruling taiwanWell it is not, so….
>>533271633Made funnier by the fact we seized India, Iran and China, and still can't tell you anything about them or where they are. The Americans don't even remember the last time we took Iran, they think it's a different country. That was the Iranians main fuck up, they renamed the place so the Americans thought it was one they hadn't invaded yet.A lot of Americans thing Osama bin laden runs Iran, because they've got it mixed up with Iraq... and Syria.But common theme is that they are sand counties, so oil, Muslims, counties that are no fun so we just bomb and go home
>>533271905Jerusalem, dheli, beijing, stormed one fortified capitol you've stormed them all. Climb up wall, blow up gate, bring machine gun inside.
>>533246906Japan needs>Taiwan>Hawaii>The Great Australian Bight>CaliforniaIn that orderSimple as.
>>533246906Taiwan is a very nice place to visit compared to their shithole that is china so I support it of course. Fucking commies cant help but make things shit
>>533272414Pretty sure that China is only 50 years old, the Japanese burnt the whole place down before that. And before that we burnt it down, before that was is the mongols or the Taiwanese? They both burnt it down as well. So I'm pretty sure that there have been a dozen or more empires in the same place but they just kept getting destroyed.
>>533273865Is two Jimma on Taiwan or is that another island? The US navy invaded them all during ww2 didn't you
>>533246906>grouped with Japan and KoreaLmao nobody cares about Taiwan, it's mostly seen as a factory countryJapan >> Korea = China (Taiwan)
>>533273131>common theme is that they are sand countiessmallest common denominator.
>>533273865>chyna shit in my pants
>>533273865>Fucking commies cant help but make things shitMan, it’s China and Chinese culture that is the problem, not “communism”. Taiwan is a good place because it is a post- Chinese society.https://www.cuhk.edu.hk/rct/renditions/sample/b23.html
>>533246906>fucks all their butts>punches them in the back of their heads>doesn't explain>walks away
>>533268614Meanwhile it's full of Japanese people and culture everywhere because it used to be a part of the countryThis is why the Japans are very protective of them
>>533277747It’s also why they love Japan
