Why have U.S. stock markets risen so high?The ceasefire is set to end in a few days; if the war resumes, the Strait of Hormuz will be closed again.
>>533329614To liquidate the shorters and to bait longs. Jewish tricks as usual.
>>533329614>the Strait of Hormuz will be closed again.That's when you sell
>>533329614because the insiders know it won't resume.every single one of those moves started before the news broke, so you know the market makers are being fed info
>>533329614Because it's a scam, no capital is allocated outside of extremely small caps that you never hear about.
>>533329614Nothing has changed on the ground and no real agreement has been made. No more traffic is going through the hormussy. The markets are not rational. Trump just wants line to go up so he's spent today posting optimistic bullshit on Truth Media.There are thousands of troops in the region, they aren't there for a holiday, and they've only got a month before the summer sets in. Expect real shit to go down shortly.
>>533329614HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?
Its april, productivitg is skyrocketing
>>533329614hopium is one hell of a drug and market cap is a purely imaginary number.
a confluence of factors, including:>US trade deficit flooding the world with useless dollars, can't really buy anything else with them except stocks>US economy broadly diverged from commodity-sensitive industries over time>top 40% of total US marketcap basically owns the government, hardly any opposition apparent on the horizon>some fiats are actively collapsing regardless, japan and india mostly, and only the US market has enough liquidity for them to exit intoEtc.
>hormussy
>>533329614Because if America actually hammers out a favorable deal despite memes and such posted here it does put America in a very strong position. There's a lot of long term stability that could be seeded in the world of the petrodollar and geopolitics.
>>533329841The US has capitulated, which resolves the uncertainty. Uncertainty is what drives market pessimism.
>>533329703You shitskins are so predictable and absolutely fucking pathetic
>billionaires gained 4.5 trillion>meanwhile anyone making less than 500k a year gained nothing>maga hats clap and cheer for this
>>533329614>added 4.5 trillionI hate this market cap lying shit>>533329703>To liquidate the shorters and to bait longs. Jewish tricks as usual.this, this is a bull trap
>>533329614They pump before the war starts so they can short it when it heats back up. Sell at the top, short it, buy when it drops. Repeat.
>>533330089>you have to make 500k a year to have a 401knigger get off polymarket and sports betting and just get a target date fund already
>>533329817Summer campaign in MENA? Is that something they do? Always thought they left it for winter over there. That’s how it was in WWII.
>>533330116>nasdaq has the longest winning streak since 2009> t-t-trapcope, beartranny. the insiders know the war is over
>>533329614>Why have U.S. stock markets risen so high?Because inflation is worsening and money has to go somewhere.Basically, if you had $1 million, what would you do with it?
>>533329614The Jew is doing everything in its power to keep markets looking good until the Midterms so that its shabbos got stays in power
>>533329969>useless dollarsit must suck be a brown tranny, hope you kys or whatever
>>533330348>stupid nigger has never heard of buy the rumor sell the newslet's see what happens when that news actually breaks
>>533330441>Basically, if you had $1 million, what would you do with it?if you have a lick of brains it is mostly in Bitcoin
>>533329614Yeah there’s a lot of weird shit going on with the market. I dont understand it one bit. Maybe >>533329764 is right. The only other plausible explanation is >>533329969 but I don’t think that’s pump the US markets this hard. We swung wildly to an ATH, which makes absolutely zero sense given the strain on the world economy. You’d expect it to flatline or rise back up to 5% under the previous ATH. I actually sold at barely a gain through all of this which leaves me scratching my head. The US markets should have tanked FAR worse than this which is what happened last year!
>>533329817Doubtful. Iran knows they don't stand a chance and they are cucking. The ceasefire made the adrenaline wear off and pain apparent and now they can see the severity of the situation and make smarter decisions.
>>533329614Shut up and sell the rip, retard
>>533330449The stock market is a jewish invention. Buzzwords don't make an argument, nigger
>>533330441>Basically, if you had $1 million, what would you do with it?Buy physical gold.Gold is money; paper money is just paper.
>>533329614S&P 500 is up 1.5%, which isn't a huge amount.It is back to pre-war levels which is a bit weird.
>>533330542The financial Empire is failing in the standard way. First the peripheral economies and their currency weaken. The smart money in those places rushes to the center of the Empire, which boosts the currency/markets there. That is the USA. This lasts for a couple of years until the center of the Empire itself topples. The most important thing to understand is that while the US financial empire is huge it is not global and does not have total control. Other regions will do fine. Your level of exposure to the US is inversely correlated to how well you will do over the next couple of years.For Americans, ride the wave up for now. When the moment nears for the USD it will be easy to see from a mile away and you can exit then. Bitcoin is the strongest alternative because it has no centralized monetary policy that can be altered and is easy to transact with and move across borders. This is especially important to consider if you are in the Eurozone because capital controls are almost certain there, and probably quite soon.
>>533329614The markets should be way higher than this because AI is actually insane and boosting productivity beyond human limits. Imagine what happens when all the software companies simply make their own AI and then the cybersecurity companies do.
>>533330542Oh, current voltaility is due to CTA positioning. These are automated funds that are either 'always buy' or 'always sell'. I was just referring to valuations in general
>>533330520>if you have a lick of brains it is mostly in BitcoinBitcoin has its own issues. The point is, if inflation is increasing, you definitely don't want to sit on your cash, and every other market is in worse shape. America at least is energy-independent and relatively safe.>>533330685>Buy physical gold.Gold is a safe pick because it is generally a hedge against inflation, but it is not something with much growth potential. Basically, not something day traders can make money from.Moreover, as the only saying goes in investing, "Buy on a rumor, sell on the news". Gold as already pumped in the leadup to the war. So it isn't as attractive now.
>the stock market has to go down because of the war in iran why?>IT JUST HAS TOO OK REEEE
>>533330685>GoldThis is basically the right idea. There is also Bitcoin which has a few advantages over Gold but more or less functions in the same way. This will become more apparent over the next couple of years. If you need to move a lot of money quickly Bitcoin is the best option in the world.
>>533329614The US stock market is a meme.
>>533329614>Why have U.S. stock markets risen so high?Probably because wealthy people and institutions have no where better to park their money.
>>533330972>Bitcoin has its own issuesOnly in the imaginations of people who don't understand how it works.America won't "collapse" even if the financial system and USD does. It's a rich state with a lot of resources and will be fine. The question is how to navigate the turbulent transitional period. Key is anticipating the causes of the current decline because those will be what drives decisions about the replacement system that is implemented. Sanctions and inflationary monetary policy are the big ones and that is why Bitcoin is in a strong future position.
I can afford a share in RocketLab, BlackSky, Intuitive, and AST SpaceMobile. I am looking for a space is the place portfolio that will take me to the Moon in 2028. Please do not threaten the national security of America while I am aiming to become an astromillionaire within a decade. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
>>533330997Sounds like you probably have a very juvenile view of economics.
>>533330520If you invested $1M in bitcoin 5 years ago you would have $1,284,900 today.If you invested $1M in S&P 500 ETF's 5 years ago you would have $1,707,300 today.If you invested $1M in MSCI World ETF's 5 years ago you would have $1,730,100 today.
>>533331143>nowhere better to park their moneyReal Estate typically soaks up a lot of this free-roaming cash but that is a bad play with the current interest rates and general market conditions. This is most likely the main reason you are seeing stocks go up. Do not underestimate the political factors around real estate either. It is has become a much riskier investment in coastal US regions as the commie retards increasingly seek to loot the wealth of white people.
>>533329614BRICS XISTERS ITS OVERHERE COMES DOW 50K AGAINLEFTYPOL LOST COMMIES LOST SHAREBLUE LOST DISCORD TRANNYS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>533331223Do you always use AI to draft up posts on this board?
>>533329614All that money simply has no alternative. China has no intention of taking it in. So it will remain stuck in the west until everything collapses, once reality can no longer be denied.
>>533331301Now do this with 10 years instead of 5.
>>533331301Typical of a Dutch flag to have an extremely jewish post. First off all past performance does not predict future performance. Second you are talking about speculative trading and have chosen relatively arbitrary dates. Your numbers are basically meaningless and without context.Your biggest issue is denominating all in USD. This is going to be a rough transition for your ilk.
>>533330089Actually I made 50k the last month :)
>>533329614How is oracle +4.8? They are one leg in the grave.
>>533331394>China has no intention of taking it inA significant percentage of the money that fled Dubai et al as a result of this war went to Hong Kong.
>>533330972>>533331007It’s okay. I buy gold as a form of savings.Now that Chinese banks have cut interest rates, you barely earn any interest on money deposited in the bank.So I’ve decided to buy gold bars instead.If necessary, I can even use the small gold bars to buy things directly. They also make great gifts.
Stock buybacks, insider trading and manipulation by the administration. The economy "bounced back" however the rich are richer but the people are poorer with many foreclosed and bankrupt and money siphoned. The damage has been done.
>>533331316BRICS markets are only semi-open to foreign investment and loans. They do not intend to sell off their countries completely, as the west did.
>>533331492Oracle is state-supported and won't be entering any graves ever. A big portion of their revenue is from services that are very difficult to transition away from.
>>533329614Because Donald Trump Makes America Great Again!
>>533331262sounds like you do since the market is up
>>533329614Dunno but I lost almost all the gains I had made shorting. But I'm not out yet
>>533329614"big beautiful brilliant day"Trump is the best
>>533331204BTC still has some inherent risks. It's not based on anything, most people don't really understand crypto or trust it, and it's already been pumped so many times. The plus-side is that it is international, largely unsanctionable, and there are some institutional investors with holdings.>America won't "collapse" even if the financial system and USD does.I wouldn't be so sure of that.
>>533331494Yes, chinese companies listed in hong kong and on a few islands do raise foreign capital. But that's only a fraction of the chinese economy. Furthermore, the chinese central bank completely avoids foreign money. That's precisely why the jews have no gateway into china.
>>533329614Da fuq u talking about. We barely recovered anything.
>>533329614>Grug caveman>Grug's little cave village agree to use unique rock as means of exchange since barter inconvenient>Work great, everyone get what want and need. Prices in little rocks go down as grug village get better at making things>Grug happy>Grugberg come to village. Grug not like but grug woman sympathetic to all losers and failures and grug like woman>Grugberg have evil magic that can make more rocks whenever grugberg wants.>Grugberg make many rocks, buy all things in village>rocks technically worth less with each new rock, but Grug bad at Grugberg magic and not understand this>"Why everything more expensive?">Grugberg say: it the poor, it the rich, it different grug from other grug village>Grug mad, goes and kills grugbergs enemies and competitors.
>>533331525Particularly Switzerland did it. It can no longer be trusted as a neutral party to host negotiations with based and redpilled countries.
>>533329614inflation
>>533331663>It's not based on anything,see: >>533331204>Only in the imaginations of people who don't understand how it works.America will actually collapse but that will be over internal political/cultural issues. The "collapse" will be a period of infighting - already begun. Even still things will hum along fairly easily day-to-day. Americans aren't going to starve.
>>533331754It's in deposits not companies. Hong Kong has a special system separate from the rest of China, which you should know.
>>533331763You're not American, who cares. Just pay tariffs and keep screeching.
>>533331880tariffs got canceled by our dysfunctional government months ago. America is basically the USSR in late 1989 right now.
>>533330520>mostly in Bitcoinlol may as put it in a big pile and burn it.bitcoin is nothing more than an energy sink, a token representing untold trillions of hash operation. at least invest in something tangible.>b-but muh time machine.if you bought it a year ago you'd be fucked. it's easy to play the numbers in hindsight.
>>533329969>fiats are actively collapsing regardless, japan and india mostly,Is this true, chat?How do I protect my family?
really kicking myself for not scooping up a bunch of TQQQ when it dipped to $38. i even told myself to buy a bunch when I got home last week and forgot. would have made an additional ~$10k or so just in the last couple days.
>>533331979>if you bought it a year ago you'd be fucked. it's easy to play the numbers in hindsight.You are caught up in a jewish investment greed mindset. The point isn't to gamble on short-term trades the point is how to hang onto your money through the tumult. Those short-term trades and that entire set of rules around it that you are accustomed to are being shut down. This is why so many within the system cannot correctly anticipate the near-term future.
>>533331398>>533331427I was being generous because 1Y or YTD Bitcoin is in the red whereas S7P 500 and World index are both positive.Crypto really has had its day, the new hype is AI.
>>533332201>the new hype is AI.Damn nigger are you terminally addicted to being wrong? The AI bubble is five minutes away from deflating. And we are not talking about "crypto" we are talking about Bitcoin.
>>533331983Immigrate to Canada.
>>533331869>It's in deposits not companies. Hong Kong has a special system separate from the rest of China, which you should knowWhat are you talking about? Chinese companies listed in hong kong or bermuda for example aren't really any different from those listed in london.
>>533329614Because deal with iran, duh, oil will flow
>>533330316That was why Desert Storm was in February. The Middle East gets hot in summertime. Very very hot.
>>533331394>All that money simply has no alternative.The problem is that this is a ticking time bomb.It’s only a matter of time before the stock market crashes, and it’s also only a matter of time before these excess dollars lose their value.Hyperinflation is about to hit.
>>533329614stack crypto and metalskeynesian jews deserve the ropeTKDChrist is king
This might be poker logic.You have limited information so you have to act on the information you do have rather than be paralysed by what you dont know.
>>533329614My guess is that it's just money following the money. The war would have saw a lot of money move into oil futures and oil in general, and as the war is dying down, the money moves from oil into the conventional areas of investment. It never sits in cash because cash is worthless.
I think people who thought the global economy would collapse do not understand the topic, yet they've been the most vocal about it.
>>533331830The problem with America is.. 1) Everyone hates each other. 2) We have 100 million spics.When the dollar collapses, the financial system collapses, assets collapse, our buying power collapses, everyone becomes poor, and that will create conflict between groups, and lead to calls for separation.My position for several years now is that when things get bad, Mexico will use the spic diaspora to break off the Hispanic-majority areas of the United States where Mexico has a territorial claim(see Aztlan). Mexico will be supported by China, and really the entire world because everyone hates us. If America loses the Permian Basin alone we cease to be a superpower.
>>533331785We've been completely open to foreign capital for a long time, but we're still less affected than the rest because we have so much domestic capital that the returns are too low to be attractive to foreign investors. Fuck, most of our rental properties have a yield close to 0%.
>>533329614This sucks i wanted collapse and billions of dead indians, nothing ever fucking happens
>>533332282The real question is "what is the next big thing" now that AI is on the verge of popping
>>533332360Hang Seng index hasn't made any major outlying move since February. The money that fled Dubai was CASH. It is now CASH, just in Hong Kong deposit accounts instead of Emirati ones. This is noteworthy because the money did not go into US Treasury accounts.
>>533332439It crashed in 2008, and practically without any survivors. Since then, the west has lived off printing money and clinging to hope. Oh, and of course, tons of immigration. The next crash will be so devastating that we will descend into absolute chaos.
>>533332484It's just cash that was in stocks a few months ago going back into stocks. When things got dicey and uncertain some people sold into cash to avoid market volatility. Now that the certainty has reduced they are putting the cash back into stocks. It's not that complicated.
>>533331830>America will actually collapse but that will be over internal political/cultural issues.nigger i've been hearing this for 35 years, just stop
>>533329614>Gas too expensive>Digital services go up>Physical storefronts go downWoooaahh, just like Covid.
>>533332539>everyone becomes poorThis is what will save America, unironically. Note that being poor in America is a pretty good situation for an American. most of the foreigners are leeches and will leave when the money stops flowing to them. Your analysis on the Mexico question is entirely plausible. There is an important factor that libtards don't usually understand which is that the higher quality spic population is against this and more loyal to America than their retarded cousins from the village. You can't group the spic population so easily. This error will be the downfall of the libtard faction.
>>533332546Money in a Russian bank account is safer than in Switzerland. Welcome to the 2020's, mountain nigger.
>>533332720That can then be nothing more than a hedge. Significant amounts of money only flow where they have investment opportunities. And at the moment, there is no alternative to the USA. Especially since china, as already mentioned, doesn't want to be bought up with dollars to which they assign no value.
>>533333000
>>533332592The most important emerging industry is robotics. AI is peripheral to that in many ways.
>>533333041People who want to secure their capital and don't care about returns still come to us. But that's a niche business.
>>533332782>The next crash will be so devastating that we will descend into absolute chaos.I agree.That’s also why I became obsessed with gold.I’m very worried about the next financial crisis.When that time comes, gold will be the only currency.
>>533332811>nigger i've been hearing this for 35 years, just stopInstead of listening to what you hear try applying logical analysis. The American state is only being held together by cheap money right now. This was not true in the 1990's, for example. Once the cheap money goes away it is easy to anticipate internal rifts in American getting out of hand. This is because greedy people will attempt to seize what is not theirs. Many such cases.
>>533333333
>>533333001>higher quality spic population is against this and more loyal to America than their retarded cousins from the village.No spic is loyal to America. Rich spics only pretend to be loyal because they don't want to piss off their customers/benefactors. Rich people in general are the most disloyal of all.
>>533333045>Significant amounts of money only flow where they have investment opportunitiesWhat economics textbook are you quoting? This is stupid as fuck. You are not equipped for the situation we are entering in terms of financial adjustment.
>>533333132>secure their capitalThis is no longer the case. Congrats on being the last to find out. Europe is shockingly far behind the curve what are they putting in your water over there.
>>533329614The stock market is based on companies that profit from their own buybacks, crypto, asset manipulation, etc. Number always goes up because it has nothing to do with reality anymore. Trump is also constantly manipulating the market with mix of idle threats followed by fake peace talks, and these events always happen to occur in reaction to changes in the market versus the actual war and chances of peace.
>>533333318>No spic is loyal to AmericaAgain, you are wrong as a typical liberal always is (you area liberal, if that wasn't clear already). You're right about the disloyalty of rich people but I didn't say the rich spics were the loyal ones.Failure to understand the outside world and its people is the main reason for America's present predicament. Until you start listening to people who correct this you will keep losing.
>>533333338>>533333408You combine an absolute lack of economic understanding with the american arrogance of always being right. What can I say to that? You've won.
>>533333550Do you honestly think that the Dubai money was seeking "investment opportunities" when it fled the region a few months ago?
>>533329614This is the pump, soon to be followed by the dump.
>>533333534You're clearly delusional if you think spics are going to save America(Nick Fuentes aside).
>>533333710>if you think spics are going to save AmericaI don't think that and I didn't say that. You conjured it entirely out of your own imagination.
>>533333796You said America is safe because high-quality spics will fight for America against their homelands. I was paraphrasing of course.
>>533333796>Let me clarify my positionLow-quality spics are just straight up against us.High-quality spics are only loyal to money.
>>533329614Iran gave up. America won.
>>533333905Here's what I said:> There is an important factor that libtards don't usually understand which is that the higher quality spic population is against this and more loyal to America than their retarded cousins from the village. You can't group the spic population so easily. This error will be the downfall of the libtard faction.I understand that reading comprehension is no longer a thing taught in the schools but you seem to misunderstand the point I am making. Let me rephrase:Spics won't for FOR America, they simply won't fight AGAINST America. And the factions who wish to win AGAINST America need their involvement or they cannot accomplish their goals. As a result they will fail.You are also confounding 'high quality' and rich, which is very jewish. Are you a jew?
>>533329614The markets aren’t keeping up with inflation. Even the stonk fags are getting poorer every day.
>>533334235>Spics won't for FOR America, they simply won't fight AGAINST America.No, retard. They'll fight for whichever side benefits them the most. Thus, to the extent they are loyal to America is to the extent they know being American has more value than being something else. If America becomes poor and destabilized after the dollar collapses, this calculation will almost certainly change.
>>533330050He's right though. Expect a big drop within the next two weeks
Shut up and buy the spike, goy
>>533334384You fail to consider that spics are lazy and would prefer not to fight at all. Again, back to my original point that if you don't have sufficient knowledge of outside peoples you can't correctly anticipate their behavior. The important thing is that the "100 million spics in the US" are not an army here to conquer. If these were Arabs I'd say otherwise.Some of those spics would like to reconquista, but that is mostly a meme among second generation ones struggling to compete against Americans directly in ways their parents did not have to (as proper foreigners).Leftist white people (and their jewish leaders) are your biggest threat for instability in the United States. They will try to rope various ethnic groups in to support them and fight on their behalf, but this will not go as well as they are expecting. No one said leftoids were smart or good at predicting outcomes, however.
>>533329614It was all priced in from the start
>>533329703>To liquidate the shorters and to bait longs. Jewish tricks as usual.FPBPThe modern market, which normies and most of /pol/ and /smg/ still haven't figured out, is just a vehicle to vacuum up retail money by manipulating the market to do the opposite of what it should do based on fundamentals or crisis. The bear or bull trap happens over a week or so, then they rug it over a couple months to do the opposite and liquidate everyone.
>>533329864GDP is shrinking and unemployment is going up though
>>533334869normie money isn't moving in and out on short term basis. That is amateur investor money and like sports app gamblers they deserve little sympathy. normie money moves out of assets into "safe" cash when extreme risk due to UNCERTAINTY enters. Threatening nukes and world war are about as uncertain as it gets. The normie money moving back into assets suggests that the uncertainty has diminshed, which is true if you can read or think or whatever.That the US won or lost is less important than the situation becoming more predictable and calm. Markets wan't stability and in times of instability people feel safer in cash.
>>533335031>GDPShekels per Goy doesn't mean anything and unemployment does not correlate to productivity.Those data can tell you how market lemmings might react but they will not tell you anything useful about your actual economy.That said I do not think actual productivity is skyrocketing.
>>533329614a better question brownoids should be asking is why trying to hold hormuz hostage barely affected the marketthe answer is, you're mostly important to china and india, not the US>didn't sink one surface ship>didn't manage one flashy terroist attack on US Soilexposed as a paper tiger, bachi bazi faggots
Nothing ever happens. Trump just makes threats and withdraws then and the market thinks every withdrawn threat is a huge victory, meanwhile oil continues not to flow.
>>533329614the economy is one giant circlejerk.why doesn't anyone care?the fucking shoe company Allbirds announced they're pivoting towards being an AI company and their stocks jumped by 400%.this ain't right. You just can't print money like that out of thin air.
>>533335236The Iranians performed a hostile takeover of the Straight. Someone has to be in charge and it used to be the Amerifats, now it is the Persians. Their goal wasn't to crash the global economy they justed wanted America to fuck off and leave them alone. it appears that they have achieved this goal.
>>533335423>You just can't print money like that out of thin air.they print credit. Credit spends like money but it isn't money. The credit spigot is the whole issue
>>533336022Someone has to be on the other end of that credit printing, a buyer. The situation is that those buyers are increasingly hard to find at the same time that we need more of them than ever.
>>533331007Your skin is the color of SHITYour arguments are invalid
>>533335114I don't necessarily agree with the values either. Just that all statistics definitely don't point to "productivity is skyrocketing" as it appeared you were suggesting in your first point
>>533329969>some fiats are actively collapsing regardless, japan and india mostly>india mostlyIs this true?
>>53333281135 years is nothing in terms of governments and empires. Just because it didn't happen doesn't mean it will never happen. Once it finally does happen the last 35 years will be seen as the writing on the wall in retrospect. Collapses happen over hundreds of years not tens, most likely it'll take 100+ years before there is a collapse. Things tend to trickle along at a snails pace steadily up until the moment they finally don't
>>533329614When do the markets stop reflecting material reality?
>>533330827>S&P 500 is up 1.5%, which isn't a huge amount.Retard
>>533332539You're retarded, if the US collapses, Mexico will collapse as well, at most you'll get southern states seceded but also ours, there will be fragmentation in north america.
>>533329614So they just returned money from Israel? This Is to trick you bad, take In count that when trillions of dollars where transfered to a Israel everything went down, Lets see what happens when the ceasefire ends.
>>533330116>4.5 trillion >bull trapTrump won again. /biz/chads who knew he would pull this off are profiting while you are crying and making up shit.
>>533329614>Muh kike number is up! THE ECONOMY IS SAVED!I hope you all die, niggers
>>533341642everyone dies eventually, memeflag
