Christians do not believe you cannot be moral without God; they belive you are not allowed to be moral without God.
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>>533331797Wrong. Morality is imprinted on the hearts of all men; that is why they know what is good and what is evil.However, this morality comes precisely from God. In other words, not recognizing God is the same as not recognizing moral precepts.
>>533331797Only God is good--everyone else is evil.Non-Christians believe themselves to be good despite being evil..
>>533331797God's only promise is that you have a good afterlife. Nothing here. It's a big cope that people need because otherwise they'd see their lives are shit and meaningless.
>>533331797wtf are you talking about?Romans 212 For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law. 13 For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. 14 For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. 15 They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them 16 on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus.
>>533331797define moralEpstein class ruling your country now consider themselves quite moral
>>533331797>Christians do not believe you cannot be moral
>>533332142>God's only promise is that you have a good afterlifeno, he promises resurrection and eternal life with him in heaven on earth.
>>533331797You cannot live for eternity without God.You will fear death without God.
>>533331797It’s more like the only way to define moral is with reference to god. Which is correct.
>>533332403what's the scariest thing to a conscious being? Death. Religion is the ultimate cope.
>>533331797christians don't believe in morality because they think they can be degenerate losers and an idiot just like them who died 2000 years ago will make it ok somehow https://youtu.be/zf91kjmxifc
>>533332557>what's the scariest thing to a conscious being?Hell. Death is akin to sleep. Seeing everyone you love get tortured to death is scarier than death.
>>533332403We need demons here more than ever. Then you'll finally see that stupid little necklace you wear everyday isn't worth shit faggot!
>>533331797You can not have abstract, universal morals without god. You can not be taught what is moral without god. No god means morals are the abstraction and the ground truth is you are transmitting complex survival strategies between people. Then, morality is objective. Scientific. Measurable in terms of population level success. No god means moral truth is discoverable.And while christians may rejoice that faggotry, murder and theft do reduce societal fitnessThey won’t be too happy about the game theory implications of helping the poor and welcoming the stranger without asking what race they belong to. No god means there is no is-ought gap. Ought can not be. What is right and wrong will always change with the situation, and your answer to the question, “is that the future you want?” and others answer to “will you let that guy strive for that, help him, or oppose him?”Without god your new christ is charles darwinYour heaven is continuation and prosperityYour hell is extinction following repression under religious delusions
>>533332700I can still beat you in a fist fight. Fucking retard.
Everything good comes from God, even knowledge itself.
>>533331797Their own book says most of them are "false" and will not enter heaven. dont listen to people or words in a book, listen to your soul (if you have one)
>>533331797It's true.Even though the moral law is written on every heart, you simply do not have the capacity to do good without faith in GOD.How selfless can the actions of faithless man be if he uses his great deeds for the sake of bragging and building his ego?
>>533331797abrahamcels are retarded, what else is new?
>>533331797No, they believe that goodness is God. The reason why atheists can't be good is because they don't believe in goodness as an immutable principle. Atheists are empiricists, Christians are rationalists.
>>533332698Hell was added to the bible long after it was first made. Rightoids added it to force retards into believing. Go ahead ask chatgpt
It's not natural being moral in this nature or "fallen paradise", otherwise you are just a fool. And being moral is about trust and being moral is not enough to be saved. You still have to prove working in charity and being in grace and sharing your love and aggregate more in the heard.
>>533333424Hell is a reality of making a bad choice in life, and it will follow you after your death.Actions have consequences. All anti-christ will go to Hell.
>>533333535Better to be wise in the virtues and a fool to the world, than wise to the world and a fool without virtue. Realizing that this life is fleeting and thus not worth degrading yourself over is what it means to have started genuinely living.
>>533333635>Actions have consequences.do they?
>>533331797Whoa, sounds to me like American Christians are kinda gay.
>>533333887Certainly.
>>533331797>Christians do not believe you cannot be moral without God; they belive you are not allowed to be moral without God.Completely fucking wrong on all accounts.They believe that even if you are the most moral person ever, who spends their entire life helping others, if you don't accept God and practice the faith, you will go to hell. A sinner who has done more harm then good their entire life, even murder and rape, but accepts God, confess and repents, will achieve heaven.Someone who feeds the poor, educates the youth, spends their time and money helping their community, but rejects the Christian religion will be in hell.
Christian churches have been spreading their faith in Japan for 500 years, yet only 1% of the Japanese population are Christians.The reason for this low percentage is that Japanese people do not feel the need for Christianity. It's the same with that you do not feel the need for Shinto.
>>533334615The need will come when you live in a literal Hell.
>>533333857Being wise in virtues may have you sleep better and lower your cortisol but all the fools will have your peace as their target. Being wise or fool is just part of strategies in the nature's games. without anchorage in the holiness.
>>533335399>wise and foolBoth is meaningless when there is no hierarchy or humans to compare.
>>533334615Christianity does not teach that masses will come to faith, only few. 1% is a big number in that regard.even western countries are bristling with false converts, fake christians who are only christian in name.actual believers are far to few to come by.
